Just purchased your middle suggestion in both 14” and 16” and don’t know which to keep. I paid $600 more for the 16 inch which at this point is just for the bigger screen, battery life. , and slightly better speakers. Same CPU, GPU, Ram, storage. Not sure which to keep, as I can return both
I think maybe there is something wrong with your configuration in Premiere - are you sure you have the M1 version of Premiere installed? I have both the M1 Pro and the M1 Max, using them with 10 bit 4:2:2 4K footage from the fx3 and A7siii like you are, and they play flawlessly at full res view. And they play pretty smoothly in multicam when playing 3 cameras simultaneously, graded etc. You really shouldn’t be seeing any stuttering at all. It’s definitely worth paying extra for the M1 Max though if you’re a video editor. 4K 10 bit 4:2:2 is rapidly becoming a kind of base level industry standard, and in the coming 2/3 years video editors need a computer that will handle that graded, multicam, stabilised etc. the M1 Pro can work with it pretty well, but the Max gives the headroom to cut through it effortlessly. I got the 14” M1 Pro as a travel computer, but can really feel the difference when editing on the 16” M1 Max.
I've been hearing this "your config is wrong" about Premiere since 2007 when we bought a super expensive HP turnkey workstation custom made for Premiere... The performance was never great, and it was never great on any Windows or Mac ever since. It's just shitty codebase. After Effects is even worse, but I sort of love to use it even when literally any other similar program is miles ahead in performance.
Having owned the m1 pro 'base' model for a while now I'll say that it is not ideal for After Effects. That's just a small part of what I do and I've made it work when I've needed it. The main tradeoff is render time. To get a MacBook that would equal my windows machine for After Effects would have required getting the top of the line machine.
Arthur, perfection. I am going to put the Costco/priceclub macbook pro 16, 10 core 16 core, 16Gb 1Tb No. 2 you suggested at $2649.99 2 year warranty. and solve my problem trying to find a Windows pc to replace my laptop, No fan noise, won me over! again got my Like loved the work best vid on youtube
1:05 OMG, As a game developer, thank you so much for saying and doing this test! It's so tiring to hear people only benchmark these laptops' performance based on how well they run video editing apps only
Lumen doesn't work and unreal sucks with the m1 ultra which I'm using. I'm so disappointed and should have went with a workstation computer with an rtx3090
@@io_inc Yeah I got the M1 Pro and even running natively the default project is running at 20-27fps, and if you reduce the screen percentage you can manage to get 30-40 fps, and with low engine scalability it runs at 50-60 fps, and running a finished game is horrible (10-20 fps). I didn't test UE4 but it should be better?
As i've seen many pro's filmmakers from my country doing Proxy media even when they're using amazing machines, like a 15k USD Mac, i think we're a little bit too freak to think that the Mac Pro isn't enough for filmmakers (even the ones who edit 6k Raw footage). Because when we use proxy media, the playback runs smooth. And even with the most expensive processors from many Notebooks, the render time of those machines will be 2x or 3x longer than a Desktop... But it's fine for the sake of mobility and a minimalist setup for running gun professionals. I'm really excited to sell my Desk (Ryzen 5 3600 12 threads, 6 core with 16gb ram and 1660 Super 6gb) To grind for a Macbook Pro 13''. The only con of the mac is the render time, but it's our responsability to know yours equipment and set a nice deadline for any project that we made!
I got a Max specs ZENBOOK PRO DUO first generation..... A total mess after 2 years, audio jacks disconnected, usb start to melt, ovverheat nightmare : scrolling on a 4K file on a SSD T5 hardrive makes the computer "disconnect" every usb and bluetooth connection for 2seconds, making Premiere pro crash etc.... Battery is dead without real reason, and costumer service is a nightmare..... Bless Apple....
I wish there were more handbrake transcoding comparisons using software mode rather than videotoolbox. Wondering if the 10core M1 Pro will provide much benefit over the 8 core.
Great video and B-roll man. Getting mine 16" m1 Pro this weekend. Can't wait to start editing on the go. ( now stuck with iMac in my room). Appreciate it. 🙏🏼
This is one of the best reviews from a video creator perspective that I have ever seen. Nice that you also put in a windows laptop. I was thinking about the m1 max 16“. Not that the mac studio is out which is specwise the same. But lacking a vattery and an amazing screen is 1000$ cheaper. I am still tempting to get the macbook because of portability. What do you think? Keep it up subscribed :)
I'm going back and forth about this, too... I have monitors and all that, so the Studio would just plug in and give mind-melting performance for an incredible price... but I really like the idea of being able to work wherever, instead of being stuck at my desk. It would be an easy choice if the Studio were more expensive!
honestly I think after using some of the davinchi 32gb ram is more safe than 16gb even thought ssd swaps are extremely fast I thing in a long run is better to invest for somebody if wanted longevity of the machine.
I like how you compare them. Too many videos out there are just comparing APPLE products while repeating the specs and time taken. But many times, I wish people could share their experience in terms of workflow and efficiency (laggy/choppy). The best thing is you compared with a competitive Windows Laptop, which is what I can say, I see the difference or the 'ruler' now. Thank you. I hit the like and subscribe button like nowhere else.
happy to see also 1080 resolution with 10bit test! Since that would be my first choice (for now) nice to see colour grade and titles on davinchi studio on basic Mac (8gpu), where this system ceiling with this in davinchi or resolve?? you mention that Final Cut Prois still little faster than davicnhi so fcp is still better choice for novice in video editor*??
Glad you like it! Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve are both great options for novice video editors on a MacBook. Final Cut is just a bit faster. You can check the exact comparison in my previous video. Here it is ruclips.net/video/eoIRy38EZyY/видео.html
I really doubt your recommendation to get 32 core...... I watched numerous videos that say the 32 core 14 inch is severely gimped in performance. It's too much heat in too small a chasis. the 16 inch is wonderful though. You should clarify next time because this is misleading.... if you get a 14 inch you should get 24 core MAX
is this m1 pro with 10c/16c still worth it now? Or do windows laptops have better value for money? Im thinking to buy that m1 pro 10c/16c refurbished for 1900€
So I decided to go with the greatest no brainer configuration 16.5" M1 Pro base model for an extra 200$ over the 14" M1 pro base model. Mainly because you get a bigger XDR display and it has more battery life then the MacBook air! Plus I get two extra CPU cores & two extra GPU cores which is a bonus for me. In addition I also upgraded the SSD to 1TB for future proofing. If you have any spare time and would like to check out my M1 pro unboxing with a beginners perspective since I only shot it with my iPhone 📹😁Thank you in advance and I hope you have a great!
It’s pretty easy to use Fusion titles in DaVinci, but I recommend you to watch the video by Casey Faris about tracking: ruclips.net/video/A-4J3e4XcLI/видео.html Btw, I’m gonna drop a video about Color Grading in Resolve soon!👌
Interesting video! Would you think either the MBP 13" 16GB/512GB or the MBP 14" base model will fit me just right? I primarily record and mix acoustic music, and edit just 4K videos taken from my phone and they are basically just me playing the instruments or singing and maybe some lifestyle vlogs.
@@arthurwiner that would be awesome - I’ve only just started my business in the last two years because of Covid and I’m always trying to figure out how to expand and improve. (Not very successfully thus far).
Привет! Во время рендера в мониторинге системы показывает, что процессор загружен всего на 14 процентов. Это нормально? Хотелось бы что бы на 100. McBook 14 дюймов 1Tb
Two reasons actually. 1 - It’s just easier to edit + this footage takes less disk space. 2 - I have the ability to crop in digitally if I need to (the digital zoom feature). But I use it just for my talking head videos. In other cases I prefer 4K of course.
Yeah, for the two reasons I’ve mentioned above. It’s just to save time really. When I can I use 4K. B-Roll - always 4K, you never know what you’ll need the footage for.
Poor file (finder) and poor task management on Mac OS (even with the stage manager) kill the whole productivity. For example, dock groups several instances of the same application. Click through is not enabled by default, you have to press first to focus and then to select an element on an app. Maximize doesn't work correctly. Multiple monitorss feature implemented poorly - you never know on which monitor your app will open. Finder does not find text inside yaml files. Almost for all features you need a 3rd party app, where it's implemented properly. Not acceptable for such an expensive device. Apart from Mac OS, laptops are beautiful and system icons are nice. But too much clicking, switching windows here and back and jumping from side to side. Computer is the tool to perform some tasks, not a fetishPoor file (finder) and poor task management on Mac OS (even with the stage manager) kill the whole productivity. For example, dock groups several instances of the same application. Click through is not enabled by default, you have to press first to focus and then to select an element on an app. Maximize doesn't work correctly. Multiple monitorss feature implemented poorly - you never know on which monitor your app will open. Finder does not find text inside yaml files. Almost for all features you need a 3rd party app, where it's implemented properly. Not acceptable for such an expensive device. Apart from Mac OS, laptops are beautiful and system icons are nice. But too much clicking, switching windows here and back and jumping from side to side. Computer is the tool to perform some tasks, not a fetish
Your thoughts about new M1 MacBooks. I'm curious 🙂
Did you use AE for rosseta or M1 beta version ?
LOVE my M1 Air
I just love the M1. I had upgraded from a 2015 MacBook Pro anyway, so it feels leagues apart.
Just purchased your middle suggestion in both 14” and 16” and don’t know which to keep. I paid $600 more for the 16 inch which at this point is just for the bigger screen, battery life. , and slightly better speakers. Same CPU, GPU, Ram, storage. Not sure which to keep, as I can return both
I think maybe there is something wrong with your configuration in Premiere - are you sure you have the M1 version of Premiere installed? I have both the M1 Pro and the M1 Max, using them with 10 bit 4:2:2 4K footage from the fx3 and A7siii like you are, and they play flawlessly at full res view. And they play pretty smoothly in multicam when playing 3 cameras simultaneously, graded etc. You really shouldn’t be seeing any stuttering at all. It’s definitely worth paying extra for the M1 Max though if you’re a video editor. 4K 10 bit 4:2:2 is rapidly becoming a kind of base level industry standard, and in the coming 2/3 years video editors need a computer that will handle that graded, multicam, stabilised etc. the M1 Pro can work with it pretty well, but the Max gives the headroom to cut through it effortlessly. I got the 14” M1 Pro as a travel computer, but can really feel the difference when editing on the 16” M1 Max.
I need some advice……Should i wait for ultra or just buy max is enough for heavy editing…..
@@BruceMarlier owh man .......i already bought the m1 ultra.......
I've been hearing this "your config is wrong" about Premiere since 2007 when we bought a super expensive HP turnkey workstation custom made for Premiere... The performance was never great, and it was never great on any Windows or Mac ever since. It's just shitty codebase. After Effects is even worse, but I sort of love to use it even when literally any other similar program is miles ahead in performance.
Holy goodness, this was perfect and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! Excellent work.
Same here thank god I was about to spend way more doing all the upgrades
Having owned the m1 pro 'base' model for a while now I'll say that it is not ideal for After Effects. That's just a small part of what I do and I've made it work when I've needed it. The main tradeoff is render time. To get a MacBook that would equal my windows machine for After Effects would have required getting the top of the line machine.
Arthur, perfection. I am going to put the Costco/priceclub macbook pro 16, 10 core 16 core, 16Gb 1Tb No. 2 you suggested at $2649.99 2 year warranty. and solve my problem trying to find a Windows pc to replace my laptop, No fan noise, won me over! again got my Like loved the work best vid on youtube
1:05 OMG, As a game developer, thank you so much for saying and doing this test! It's so tiring to hear people only benchmark these laptops' performance based on how well they run video editing apps only
You’re welcome!
Lumen doesn't work and unreal sucks with the m1 ultra which I'm using. I'm so disappointed and should have went with a workstation computer with an rtx3090
@@io_inc Yeah I got the M1 Pro and even running natively the default project is running at 20-27fps, and if you reduce the screen percentage you can manage to get 30-40 fps, and with low engine scalability it runs at 50-60 fps, and running a finished game is horrible (10-20 fps). I didn't test UE4 but it should be better?
Subbed! Loved the quality of your videos. 💯
As i've seen many pro's filmmakers from my country doing Proxy media even when they're using amazing machines, like a 15k USD Mac, i think we're a little bit too freak to think that the Mac Pro isn't enough for filmmakers (even the ones who edit 6k Raw footage). Because when we use proxy media, the playback runs smooth. And even with the most expensive processors from many Notebooks, the render time of those machines will be 2x or 3x longer than a Desktop... But it's fine for the sake of mobility and a minimalist setup for running gun professionals. I'm really excited to sell my Desk (Ryzen 5 3600 12 threads, 6 core with 16gb ram and 1660 Super 6gb) To grind for a Macbook Pro 13''. The only con of the mac is the render time, but it's our responsability to know yours equipment and set a nice deadline for any project that we made!
I got a Max specs ZENBOOK PRO DUO first generation..... A total mess after 2 years, audio jacks disconnected, usb start to melt, ovverheat nightmare : scrolling on a 4K file on a SSD T5 hardrive makes the computer "disconnect" every usb and bluetooth connection for 2seconds, making Premiere pro crash etc.... Battery is dead without real reason, and costumer service is a nightmare.....
Bless Apple....
Thanks !!!
honestly best review out there, what I was looking for!!
I wish there were more handbrake transcoding comparisons using software mode rather than videotoolbox. Wondering if the 10core M1 Pro will provide much benefit over the 8 core.
I do 4k raw edits on the base M1 Air all day. I don’t see the reason to upgrade unless you need a little more power or ports.
dude for real? No lag? I hear tons of people trash talk about the Air and convince people to get at least MBP 13" or 14".
@@namede6210 yeah if they use premiere. Final Cut or resolve no issue editing 4k.
Hii...
Could you please tell me if it's okay editing 4k 60 fps GoPro HVEC long files on this device?
Gonna go with M1 Pro 16" !
Great video and B-roll man. Getting mine 16" m1 Pro this weekend. Can't wait to start editing on the go. ( now stuck with iMac in my room). Appreciate it. 🙏🏼
Grrrreeeaat video... the wallpaper was cute btw😍😍
This is one of the best reviews from a video creator perspective that I have ever seen. Nice that you also put in a windows laptop.
I was thinking about the m1 max 16“. Not that the mac studio is out which is specwise the same. But lacking a vattery and an amazing screen is 1000$ cheaper. I am still tempting to get the macbook because of portability. What do you think? Keep it up subscribed :)
I'm going back and forth about this, too... I have monitors and all that, so the Studio would just plug in and give mind-melting performance for an incredible price... but I really like the idea of being able to work wherever, instead of being stuck at my desk. It would be an easy choice if the Studio were more expensive!
honestly I think after using some of the davinchi 32gb ram is more safe than 16gb even thought ssd swaps are extremely fast I thing in a long run is better to invest for somebody if wanted longevity of the machine.
Very professional and nice video. I will follow your advices and go with the golden mean which should largely be enough for my private use. Thanks
The 14” is not the same performance as the 16”. I went with the 16” M1 Max / 24 Core / 2 TB.
No nonsense and very clear. Thanks!
Thanks so much. this was very helpful
I like how you compare them. Too many videos out there are just comparing APPLE products while repeating the specs and time taken. But many times, I wish people could share their experience in terms of workflow and efficiency (laggy/choppy). The best thing is you compared with a competitive Windows Laptop, which is what I can say, I see the difference or the 'ruler' now. Thank you.
I hit the like and subscribe button like nowhere else.
happy to see also 1080 resolution with 10bit test! Since that would be my first choice (for now) nice to see colour grade and titles on davinchi studio on basic Mac (8gpu), where this system ceiling with this in davinchi or resolve?? you mention that Final Cut Prois still little faster than davicnhi so fcp is still better choice for novice in video editor*??
Glad you like it! Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve are both great options for novice video editors on a MacBook. Final Cut is just a bit faster. You can check the exact comparison in my previous video. Here it is ruclips.net/video/eoIRy38EZyY/видео.html
Is M1 pro 16GB ram sufficient for SONY A1 8K Video editing? I am not a daily 8K video editing user.
No
Thanks
How much did the Zenbook cost?
Great video. Thank you, man!❤️
great review bro!
loved the review! subed!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
when M2 Pro released, i choose M1 Pro base model
Just missed an offer for the 16" MBP 16GB 512GB for 700€. It would've been a dream come true to replace my Dell Insipiron 7610 that's been a PITA.
How's the trackpad feedback intensity compared to the 14"?
I really doubt your recommendation to get 32 core...... I watched numerous videos that say the 32 core 14 inch is severely gimped in performance. It's too much heat in too small a chasis. the 16 inch is wonderful though. You should clarify next time because this is misleading.... if you get a 14 inch you should get 24 core MAX
is this m1 pro with 10c/16c still worth it now? Or do windows laptops have better value for money? Im thinking to buy that m1 pro 10c/16c refurbished for 1900€
So I decided to go with the greatest no brainer configuration 16.5" M1 Pro base model for an extra 200$ over the 14" M1 pro base model. Mainly because you get a bigger XDR display and it has more battery life then the MacBook air! Plus I get two extra CPU cores & two extra GPU cores which is a bonus for me. In addition I also upgraded the SSD to 1TB for future proofing. If you have any spare time and would like to check out my M1 pro unboxing with a beginners perspective since I only shot it with my iPhone 📹😁Thank you in advance and I hope you have a great!
I went for the same configuration! How do you find yours?
I love my 16" M1 pro chip!
What do you use to do your animations? Looks clean and simple.
In this video I used built in Fusion templates (DaVinci Resolve Studio). Really like how it looks, clean and simple - exactly!
@@arthurwiner very nice! I need to figure out how to use Fusion like this - any pointers to any tutorials you through m would be good?
It’s pretty easy to use Fusion titles in DaVinci, but I recommend you to watch the video by Casey Faris about tracking: ruclips.net/video/A-4J3e4XcLI/видео.html
Btw, I’m gonna drop a video about Color Grading in Resolve soon!👌
Awesome :)
Interesting video! Would you think either the MBP 13" 16GB/512GB or the MBP 14" base model will fit me just right? I primarily record and mix acoustic music, and edit just 4K videos taken from my phone and they are basically just me playing the instruments or singing and maybe some lifestyle vlogs.
Hi, dude! Just wait for the next video before buying :)
@@arthurwiner ahhh sure man! Can't wait :)
Ok I need that background
Also, how do you tend to find and build your video editing clients?
Well, I guess we need a separate video for this 😁
@@arthurwiner that would be awesome - I’ve only just started my business in the last two years because of Covid and I’m always trying to figure out how to expand and improve. (Not very successfully thus far).
Got it. I will share my experience in one of the future videos. Thanks for the idea!
What do you think is good for 4k music video editing?
Rendering time doesn’t bother me but would it be a smooth editing experience?
Привет! Во время рендера в мониторинге системы показывает, что процессор загружен всего на 14 процентов. Это нормально? Хотелось бы что бы на 100.
McBook 14 дюймов 1Tb
Why do you choose to shoot in 1080P on the Sony FX3?
Two reasons actually. 1 - It’s just easier to edit + this footage takes less disk space. 2 - I have the ability to crop in digitally if I need to (the digital zoom feature). But I use it just for my talking head videos. In other cases I prefer 4K of course.
@@arthurwiner ah right - so for talking head you use 1080P and for broll and such you use 4K?
Yeah, for the two reasons I’ve mentioned above. It’s just to save time really. When I can I use 4K. B-Roll - always 4K, you never know what you’ll need the footage for.
@@arthurwiner awesome advice!
You used the rong settings in davinci ! Used cpu in stead of gpu for renders... nice one !
Poor file (finder) and poor task management on Mac OS (even with the stage manager) kill the whole productivity. For example, dock groups several instances of the same application. Click through is not enabled by default, you have to press first to focus and then to select an element on an app. Maximize doesn't work correctly. Multiple monitorss feature implemented poorly - you never know on which monitor your app will open. Finder does not find text inside yaml files. Almost for all features you need a 3rd party app, where it's implemented properly. Not acceptable for such an expensive device. Apart from Mac OS, laptops are beautiful and system icons are nice. But too much clicking, switching windows here and back and jumping from side to side. Computer is the tool to perform some tasks, not a fetishPoor file (finder) and poor task management on Mac OS (even with the stage manager) kill the whole productivity. For example, dock groups several instances of the same application. Click through is not enabled by default, you have to press first to focus and then to select an element on an app. Maximize doesn't work correctly. Multiple monitorss feature implemented poorly - you never know on which monitor your app will open. Finder does not find text inside yaml files. Almost for all features you need a 3rd party app, where it's implemented properly. Not acceptable for such an expensive device. Apart from Mac OS, laptops are beautiful and system icons are nice. But too much clicking, switching windows here and back and jumping from side to side. Computer is the tool to perform some tasks, not a fetish
Give me a Mac Mini M2 Pro with 32 gigs of ram and I’m happy.
Спасибо огромное за обзор! Коммент не из РФ 😊
мне кажется или это чел с мовави влога
No Computer is too fast. Stop all this nonsense.
he was saying too expensive bro, not too fast. That's what we mean here. Don't throw money away.
Мужик ты чаво, давай обратно на наш russian language youtube
I don't care about video editing sorry
Guessing you don't want any women to listen then 🤷♂
Fuuuu - why do all youtubers say "guys" 🤦♂