Difference between Sufism and other mystic paths

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • In this video we asked Shems Friedlander about the differences he has seen between islamic sufism and other mystic paths.

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  • @macmu881
    @macmu881 5 лет назад +24

    You are absolutely right. Indeed, the Sufi Orders (Tariqas) have played an important religious as well as social role
    propagating the values of humanism, religious tolerance, equality, compassion, empathy, love for all and hate for
    no one. These fervent Sufi’s mystical philosophies primarily based on compassion and divine essence are the
    cornerstone of spiritual purity and enlightenment have left a deep imprint on the social order and psychological
    relevance of human ideas.

    • @joeturner6024
      @joeturner6024 3 года назад

      Spin around (like a whirling dervish) clockwise(yang northern hemisphere/yin southern hemisphere) or counterclockwise (yin northern hemisphere/yang southern hemisphere) (torus spinning). Chant any of these mantras 3 times each while facing east, west, north(in the southern hemisphere) or south(in the northernhemisphere): "ieouams", "a-u-m", and "om". Sleep with your head placed east, west, north(in the southern hemisphere) or south(in the northern hemisphere). Perform the 5 Tibetan rites. Play music at 528 hz.

  • @samanthajags5945
    @samanthajags5945 6 лет назад +40

    Rumi was a devout Muslim. Americans re-invented him as something he was not...Rumi "I am dust on the path of Muhammad the chosen one"

    • @Gieszkanne
      @Gieszkanne 5 лет назад +10

      "What can I do Muslims? I do not know myself.
      I am no Christian, no Jew, no Magian, no Mussulman.
      Not of the East, not of the West. Not of the land, not of the sea.
      Not of the Mine of Nature, not of the circling heavens,
      Not of earth, not of water, not of air, not of fire;
      Not of the throne, not of the ground, of existence, of being;
      Not of India, China, Bulgaria, Saqseen;
      Not of the kingdom of the Iraqs, or of Khorasan;
      Not of this world or the next: of heaven or hell;
      Not of Adam, Eve, the garden of Paradise or Eden;
      My place placeless, my trace traceless.
      Neither body nor soul: all is the life of my Beloved"

    • @Gieszkanne
      @Gieszkanne 5 лет назад +4

      He even teached reincarnation not very islamic:
      "I have again and again grown like grass;
      I have experienced seven hundred and seventy moulds.
      I died from minerality and became vegetable;
      And from vegetativeness I died and became animal.
      I died from animality and became man.
      Then why fear disappearnace through death?
      Next time I shall die
      Bringing forth wings and feathers like angels:
      After that soaring higher than angels -
      What you cannot imagine. I shall be that."

    • @xtremeownage2
      @xtremeownage2 5 лет назад +7

      Gieszkanne, these are not the words of Rumi (Rah) but the lies of Coleman Barks who mistranslates his works and does not even speak Persian. Rumi (Rah) always supports the supremacy of Islam.

    • @donaldmcronald8989
      @donaldmcronald8989 5 лет назад +4

      @@xtremeownage2 Depends what you mean by 'Islam'. As I am sure you are aware, there are many extremely disturbing hadith that claim to be descriptions of Muhammad's behaviour. Which one's you choose to believe will shape your interpretation and idea of what Islam is. And only then do you get to consider its value with relation to other belief systems.

    • @xtremeownage2
      @xtremeownage2 5 лет назад +7

      @@donaldmcronald8989 , this is war propaganda from American Jewish supremacists and Bible Thumpers. In reality, those who truly study the life of the holy and pure Prophet Muhammad-e-Mustafa (SAW) from authentic sources will see that he is the most honourable, righteous, kind, compassionate, merciful, glorious, courageous and best man ever.

  • @raziel_ahmad
    @raziel_ahmad 6 лет назад +13

    So Inspirational sir 😊
    Thanks for sharing

  • @Sufi_Alchemy
    @Sufi_Alchemy 6 лет назад +12

    What a beautiful soul. Greetings from a Sufi brother of another Tariqat, Asalama Aleikum!

  • @sufijalal3842
    @sufijalal3842 5 лет назад +10

    MashaAllah !!! Classic bro

  • @moinuddin5159
    @moinuddin5159 3 года назад +1

    MashAllah you are on the right way by the meherbani of Rasul e Pak Sallel lahu Alaihe wa Sallam. Yes! After the end of RISHALAT starts BELAYET. As Rasul e Pak Sallel lahu Alaihe wa Sallam in showed us on through his deciple.
    As you said ----some have LITTLE light, some larger.
    Thank you and
    As salam o alikum.

  • @gingermavy
    @gingermavy 6 лет назад +14

    Those were good words

  • @tsetse
    @tsetse Месяц назад

    * help * how can I buy an awesome wall decoartion like that? I typed in sooooo many things in google, and nothing similar came up. For example I tried: gold geometric wall hanging or arabic gold wall art etc

  • @Harris.S
    @Harris.S 5 лет назад +2

    Nice ! For sure you're blessed Sir .

  • @yasminchishti6275
    @yasminchishti6275 3 года назад

    Ho n FriedLander thank Allah Swt that u appeared on uTube I read ur books and I enjoy two of ur D.V.D.RUMI AND Sufism the other is The world of Rumi.These r the best DVD on Sufism Why u don't make more DVDs.FeeAmanAllah.

  • @GVSHvids
    @GVSHvids 7 месяцев назад

    how do muslims define the word prophet and differentiate it with 'someone with a lot of light'?

  • @a0um
    @a0um Год назад

    I didn’t hear any explanation of the differences between Sufism and other spiritual tradition.

  • @emeraldstxne
    @emeraldstxne 4 года назад +12

    thers no such thing as sufism without islam. sufi comes from "tasawuf. "

    • @suchisthismystery2814
      @suchisthismystery2814 3 года назад +3

      Sufism existed before the birth of Islam (the organised religion of) and it will continue to exist after it's death.

    • @emeraldstxne
      @emeraldstxne 3 года назад +5

      @@suchisthismystery2814 HIGHLY INCORRECT. Nothing Came before Islam.Islam is the way of nature before humans existed.

    • @emeraldstxne
      @emeraldstxne 3 года назад +4

      @@suchisthismystery2814 That is a classic way of people trying to leave structure and order. All the true Sufi (From Tasawuf) Masters, Follow Islamic Pillars. The students that are astray from the path, do away with the practices to avoid structure and order.

    • @emeraldstxne
      @emeraldstxne 3 года назад +4

      @@suchisthismystery2814 Subconscious Imperialism and exploitation of the original culture from where the terminology and science came through.

    • @suchisthismystery2814
      @suchisthismystery2814 3 года назад +1

      @@emeraldstxne Read my statement again; I specifically stated "the organised religion of" - and of course sufis existed before the 7th century.

  • @ultrasignificantfootnote3378
    @ultrasignificantfootnote3378 6 лет назад +4

    I think I have a light too, I can give people good advice.

    • @Geralt_of_Rivia7
      @Geralt_of_Rivia7 4 года назад

      That's awesome.. Give me some good advice then brother :)

    • @ultrasignificantfootnote3378
      @ultrasignificantfootnote3378 4 года назад

      @@Geralt_of_Rivia7Good advice depends on what the problem is, in general I woud say trust research before revelation.

  • @bilbil1059
    @bilbil1059 2 года назад

    Masha Allah

  • @jumpingship1362
    @jumpingship1362 4 года назад +3

    Don't follow anyone. Go directly to the source. The source made you and will understand your stumbling.

    • @TheMercifulAndJust
      @TheMercifulAndJust 3 года назад

      No one can go to God the Creator without the Messenger nor go to the Messenger without a present living Guiding Rightly-Guided Mentor linked to A Master Guiding Rightly-guided Mentors the Prophet Muhammad 3lyhisSalaatwasSalaam through an unbroken chain of Master Guiding-Rightly Guided Mentors. Indeed, we only worship Him directly and indirectly, all worship belongs to Him Alone. We devote all this to Him Alone. Even the Majatheeb ,though generally we do not take religious instruction from them, because of their disoriented-unoriented state , their utterances and everyone's utterances are all subjected before the court of the Prophet Muhammad 3lyhisSalaatwasSalaam what is impassable remains impassable and anything else will be taken or left free based on a 360° by 73° scanner or higher scan and scrutiny. With that, anything to go through has to be directed as worship Only to God Alone with pure sincerity (360°by73°) without any deviation.

    • @Artistry4
      @Artistry4 2 года назад +1

      @@TheMercifulAndJust What you are saying is no one has ever reached God before Prophet Muhammad pbuh was sent. Then what about all these saints from other religions?! Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist mystics, they are all fake? I think belief in one God is the only requirement, sometimes even that is not required. Even on the sufi path, you come to a point where you have to drop all knowledge and belief. A guide is necessary if you have chosen the sufi path, but that does not mean you can not reach God if you are not part of any sufi order.

    • @TheMercifulAndJust
      @TheMercifulAndJust 2 года назад

      @@Artistry4 good luck with your sophistry. O you wise Ayn, did you not include Satan as well? (He was/is a Saint to many?) And Museilama? and Dajjal AntiChrist ? And Aleister Crawley?

    • @Artistry4
      @Artistry4 2 года назад

      ​@@TheMercifulAndJust I gave my opinion and asked a question so we could have a debate. If you were right, you could have proved me wrong, but you are making false accusations against me because you don't have the answers. This is the first time I'm hearing someone calling these people saints. I thought I could learn something from you because what you said about having a mentor connected to a specific lineage interested me, but it seems like you are in defensive mode, ready to attack, no matter what the person is saying.

    • @TheMercifulAndJust
      @TheMercifulAndJust 2 года назад

      @@Artistry4 my reply was accurate to catch you on your sophistry and on your stating of those persons who had gone astray from the ways of the Messengers or Prophets as saints and supposing that they also lead to God. These are obviously renditions not from an educated person but one who wants to state false statements as if they are true.
      So why not regard Satan and the others who also are seen as saints. No need to go far...Check out the Jewish doctrine on Satan.
      If you wanted to learn you would Ask and the attitude would be clear from the way you ask or even in the giving of opinion that you wanted to learn not just have a debate between two opinions.
      I don't need to nor want to debate.
      Also, I wanted to establish what is the common denominator between us. What is the authoritative ground that we both agree on to work from there, is it the scripture nql with aql, as the AhleThikr&AhlelElm/AhlusSunnah walJamaat&Muslims/TrueBelievers have been upon, is it just the intellect aql, or is it just nql, or neither and it is just oblivious sophistry ?
      There is a book that answers most of your doubts and that book is in Urdu English and Arabic : it's by the Contemporary Hadith Scholar: Muhammad Zakaria Alkandahlawi: The Inseparability of Shari'a and Țarīqa: Islamic Law and Purification of the Heart.

  • @revishon
    @revishon 4 года назад +2

    all one

    • @revishon
      @revishon 3 года назад +1

      @See Ease honestly i just eat good food, touch myself, and hangout with friends seems to keep the vibe high-end stuff

    • @revishon
      @revishon 3 года назад +1

      @See Ease only problem is i dont use a calendar nor practice time so i dont know days of the week at all so how will i ever know what a sabbath is?

  • @juhebhassan2617
    @juhebhassan2617 5 лет назад +3

    Rob de niro

  • @QED_
    @QED_ 8 лет назад +6

    What is the point of this (?) It says nothing . . .

    • @abhishekmenon8156
      @abhishekmenon8156 8 лет назад +14

      It says every thing.... !!!. my friend religions are bridge or path to god. If our destination is GOD why to bother about religion. choose which ever path that have resonance with your thought . Remember our goal is to reach point of experiencing godliness.

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      @mohammadazzam269 6 лет назад +3

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    • @Houndfromhell76
      @Houndfromhell76 6 лет назад

      like Abhishek says: it says everything. There is not just ONE path of truth. There are many paths and one (must) find the path that he/she feels it will bring them closer to the One. That's all there is.

    • @Sufi_Alchemy
      @Sufi_Alchemy 6 лет назад

      You're not the target audience.

    • @syedzaidi9594
      @syedzaidi9594 6 лет назад

      It says nothing to those who can not be bothered to search or have the burning desire to search for the truth regardless of belief creed cast or religion.

  • @sam7748
    @sam7748 5 лет назад +1

    Neither East nor West, Islam is the best!

    • @ajaydalaya2195
      @ajaydalaya2195 Год назад

      Islam is terrorism read your hadiths and quran they talk ill abt non Muslims. Allah is a jealous God

  • @nsingh1627
    @nsingh1627 5 лет назад

    It is difference in your judgment

  • @filipradosa6062
    @filipradosa6062 Год назад

    False prophet talks about false prophets.

  • @abduljaafar2541
    @abduljaafar2541 3 года назад

    pls.aware nabi did not teach sufisum.nabi teach Al-koran and nabi,s practice which(A) accept and paradise for them.sufism is a division of 73 sects which enter hell as nabi said in nabi,s hadith.is sufism is hali sunnah jemah?do not waste your precious time.warning.

  • @michaelgregory5775
    @michaelgregory5775 6 лет назад +7

    Suffism is definitely not an Islamic mysticism.
    Suffism is as old as Hindu Vedic tradition.

    • @Houndfromhell76
      @Houndfromhell76 6 лет назад +16

      wrong

    • @hasanaliqadri1508
      @hasanaliqadri1508 5 лет назад +14

      Completely wrong. Sufi itself is not a Hindu word than how can it be Vedic tradition. First learn the meaning of Sufi than comment.

    • @nasrazam
      @nasrazam 5 лет назад +3

      no..

    • @muhammadsecret8783
      @muhammadsecret8783 5 лет назад

      There is always some similarity among big religion. The idea of Sufism is not new. It is like saying that there is always a ritual on every religion.

    • @xtremeownage2
      @xtremeownage2 5 лет назад

      Michael Gregory looks like some fake Hindu supremacist troll account. Never trust these Hindu trollers.

  • @xtremeownage2
    @xtremeownage2 5 лет назад +1

    This Michael Gregory fellow looks like some fake Hindu supremacist troll account.

  • @TheVeliko
    @TheVeliko 7 лет назад +9

    Mohammed was not the last prophet.

    • @maggam4941
      @maggam4941 7 лет назад +8

      TheVeliko ... Mohammad is the Last prophet.

    • @zatoichiable
      @zatoichiable 7 лет назад +2

      you can believe anything you like. Thats freedom.

    • @standardobserverstandardob6072
      @standardobserverstandardob6072 6 лет назад +9

      TheVeliko
      You have your faith i have mine.

    • @iecsao
      @iecsao 6 лет назад +2

      TheVeliko Qaydiani

    • @thenumberdars7975
      @thenumberdars7975 6 лет назад +2

      You should explore it. And not judge it on basis of believe

  • @adamhawa1143
    @adamhawa1143 6 лет назад

    Allah says the only way for mankind to follow is Islam and the sharia is the only law and the sunnah is the only way acceptable to Allah. That's real sufi someone who is heavy on the shariah and sunnah

    • @Houndfromhell76
      @Houndfromhell76 6 лет назад +4

      Islam is surrendering/submission to God right? o.k.. Jews and Christians do too. Even before the followers of Mohammed came along. They submit to God by their own rules and commandments which might differ from the way muslims submit to God. But it is sill submission (accepting to change the way you live according to what God asks you). And now probably someone will say: but the jews and christians got it all wrong. Muslims are on the right track. I would say: chicken! coward! you are afraid that you might got it wrong. That your way of understanding your islam got you to a point that you NEED to believe (always some degree of uncertainty) that you are on the right track. While your Holy book even confirms that jews and christians are believers of the book. So they must be respected as such. ... honestly?... peace be with you.

  • @Junuu
    @Junuu 6 лет назад +1

    May Allah Guide us from this foolishness

  • @johneleven25
    @johneleven25 6 лет назад

    This was a big nothingness.