Just want to say that perfect blocks use less stamina than a regular block (also some weapons like katana, odachi, tonfa, etc have an special atack when perfect block that is pretty good vs human)
I really struggle with Nioh’s dodge, it feels like the i-frames are so much smaller than the souls series, i feel like i get caught a lot in attacks i dodge, and if i don’t certain enemies magnetize towards you so you can’t avoid them. Still have trouble
I'm struggling with the same exact thing. In fact, I don't even think there are i-frames with dodges in low and mid stance. I think only the high stance roll gives i-frames. That's how it's seemed to me. I can't tell if I'm just timing my dodges really badly, or if i-frames actually don't exist for low and mid stance dodges.
You shouldn’t try to dodge like in dark souls. The dodge should be used to create or close distance or to get behind your enemy. If you try to play Nioh like a souls game, you’re gonna have a bad time
@@zowbaid89 All dodges have i-frames. DS3 roll is 12-13 frames @ 30FPS. Nioh 2 high stance roll is 10 frames, mid stance roll after the first dash is 9 frames, mid and low dash is 5 frames, low second consec dash is 4 frames. Very tight windows so you have to use them properly rather than Dark Souls method of "oh hey an attack, press dodge button and now I'm fine." Guy above is right for a lot of cases, but still most attacks can be dodged with even a low dash if you time it properly and dodge in the correct direction. For instance Tate Eboshi has a long sweeping combo string that can be completely dashed through if you dodge against the motion of the attack, so you should generally be doing that if you can't simply get behind the enemy. Opposite of that is Nightmare Bringer, dude has some huge AOE attacks with long active hitboxes so you explicitly want to use high stance dodge. Nioh's attacks require more brain power than Souls, so does it's dodges :)
Legit the only Enemy type I struggle with atm are any snake-like enemy ( Nure-Onna or Yatsu-No-Kami)and Tengu's. Had around 14 deaths before Yatsu-No-Kami, when I eventually finished the fight I had 30
With certain weapons, you can attack while downed but this comes with its own risks. Generally, the safest play is to roll away for those sweet i-frames.
@@PooferLlama I use a switch glaive and whenever I try to dash into an attack, I would face plant onto the enemy and get hit by attacks. I’m not sure if it’s because of choice of weapon as I used to use dual blades in nioh 1 and the dodge mechanics has changed or something 🤣
They could kept the stance thing and made the dodging/rolling like Dark Souls instead stupid dodging/rolling. That is why on the list of PS4 exclusive sales Nioh only sold 1 million and Nioh 2 sold 1.46 million.
@vandalic8566 Nah the dodging is weird and this game is the only good Team Ninja game. FS is way better having a better formula for these types of games, Nioh 2 is trash.
Does dodging even have i-frames in this game? I only notice i-frames when rolling in heavy stance, but mid and low stance dodges have no i-frames at all. They're just fast and maybe used for gaining distance instead of actually giving yourself i-frames. Is this the same in Nioh? I'm so used to dodging gives i-frames from Souls games, but it's really jarring coming here and realizing that dodges don't really protect you at all. Is there a skill you can buy that gives i-frames or something? How does dodging work here in this game?
If you play on Pc. Its Something like backstab. 1 They must be out of stamina (Just punch them when they block) 2 When you see red Circle (Lock on will turn red) press Right click on your mouse. Profit.
If a burst counter fully depletes ki, then you can do a Yokai Shift grapple. For more information, check out my Burst Counter Guide: ruclips.net/video/3gkwgGeMuFc/видео.html
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It's ridiculously how much dodging to the side instead of backward has improved my game flow
That was my go-to move against the Gozuki! That and sheer panic 😆
It was, is and will be helpfull my friend. This is a great series man. Very gj!
Just want to say that perfect blocks use less stamina than a regular block (also some weapons like katana, odachi, tonfa, etc have an special atack when perfect block that is pretty good vs human)
Timely Guards are awesome. However, they're beyond the scope of basic defense. I will eventually cover them and their timings.
Great video very helpful! Very clear instructions and demonstrating provided, going to test out what I've learned here ASAP. Again tyvm!!!
Great stuff, thank you!
I really struggle with Nioh’s dodge, it feels like the i-frames are so much smaller than the souls series, i feel like i get caught a lot in attacks i dodge, and if i don’t certain enemies magnetize towards you so you can’t avoid them. Still have trouble
What about the dodge in Nioh 2
I'm struggling with the same exact thing. In fact, I don't even think there are i-frames with dodges in low and mid stance. I think only the high stance roll gives i-frames. That's how it's seemed to me. I can't tell if I'm just timing my dodges really badly, or if i-frames actually don't exist for low and mid stance dodges.
@@zowbaid89all dodges have s but the s are all at the beginning of the dodge so the timing is really tight
You shouldn’t try to dodge like in dark souls. The dodge should be used to create or close distance or to get behind your enemy.
If you try to play Nioh like a souls game, you’re gonna have a bad time
@@zowbaid89 All dodges have i-frames. DS3 roll is 12-13 frames @ 30FPS. Nioh 2 high stance roll is 10 frames, mid stance roll after the first dash is 9 frames, mid and low dash is 5 frames, low second consec dash is 4 frames. Very tight windows so you have to use them properly rather than Dark Souls method of "oh hey an attack, press dodge button and now I'm fine." Guy above is right for a lot of cases, but still most attacks can be dodged with even a low dash if you time it properly and dodge in the correct direction. For instance Tate Eboshi has a long sweeping combo string that can be completely dashed through if you dodge against the motion of the attack, so you should generally be doing that if you can't simply get behind the enemy. Opposite of that is Nightmare Bringer, dude has some huge AOE attacks with long active hitboxes so you explicitly want to use high stance dodge. Nioh's attacks require more brain power than Souls, so does it's dodges :)
Very well explained! Waiting for more :)
Legit the only Enemy type I struggle with atm are any snake-like enemy ( Nure-Onna or Yatsu-No-Kami)and Tengu's. Had around 14 deaths before Yatsu-No-Kami, when I eventually finished the fight I had 30
What situations are the stances made for?
If you're knocked down should you roll into attack for s?
With certain weapons, you can attack while downed but this comes with its own risks. Generally, the safest play is to roll away for those sweet i-frames.
Sometimes when i dodge toward the attack i dont go behind him, is there any tip s for this?
I'd need more information before I can give a specific tip.
@@PooferLlama I use a switch glaive and whenever I try to dash into an attack, I would face plant onto the enemy and get hit by attacks. I’m not sure if it’s because of choice of weapon as I used to use dual blades in nioh 1 and the dodge mechanics has changed or something 🤣
They could kept the stance thing and made the dodging/rolling like Dark Souls instead stupid dodging/rolling. That is why on the list of PS4 exclusive sales Nioh only sold 1 million and Nioh 2 sold 1.46 million.
no. the dodging is fine and shouldn't be like dark souls, that's a horrible take
@vandalic8566 Nah the dodging is weird and this game is the only good Team Ninja game. FS is way better and has better formula fuck NIoh 2.
@vandalic8566 Nah the dodging is weird and this game is the only good Team Ninja game. FS is way better having a better formula for these types of games, Nioh 2 is trash.
@AndrewAung1992 this game gaps fromsoft when it comes to combat. go back to your glorified rhythm game with generous s circle + r1 r1
@vandalic8566 Cool story bro and I will enjoy your dumb rng trash garbage game.
Does dodging even have i-frames in this game? I only notice i-frames when rolling in heavy stance, but mid and low stance dodges have no i-frames at all. They're just fast and maybe used for gaining distance instead of actually giving yourself i-frames. Is this the same in Nioh? I'm so used to dodging gives i-frames from Souls games, but it's really jarring coming here and realizing that dodges don't really protect you at all. Is there a skill you can buy that gives i-frames or something? How does dodging work here in this game?
Yes, all dodges have i-frames.
There's also a equipment effect that boost i-frames that becomes available on higher NG+ cycles
Oh really. That's good to know about the NG+ armor effect. I'll have to check that out when I get there. Thanks for the reply!@@PooferLlama
How do you get that skin?
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If you play on Pc.
Its Something like backstab.
1 They must be out of stamina (Just punch them when they block)
2 When you see red Circle (Lock on will turn red) press Right click on your mouse.
Profit.
At 8:50 you did a yokai shift but the health/ki gauges didn't change. What is happening there?
If a burst counter fully depletes ki, then you can do a Yokai Shift grapple. For more information, check out my Burst Counter Guide: ruclips.net/video/3gkwgGeMuFc/видео.html
@@PooferLlama Ah, ok. Just wasn't out of ki when I tried it. Thanks.
Ummm I wouldn’t take DEFENSE advice from a revenant 🤨
Nah ima refund, dodging is impossible in this game. Can kill that monke at the START and that big bull dude.
Skill issue