Не знаю почему, но сколько не видел попыток воссоздать оригинальный образ t-800, никто не может точно воспроизвести его лицо. Форма головы и лица очень специфические. К сожалению тебе это тоже не удалось. Хотя работа проделана отличная👍
Any thoughts on revising it with your skills now? I assume you're well aware the issue with both the original and your CG version is the animation is too floaty- the T-800 moves like it weighs 15 lbs, not 235 lbs (Arnold at the time), much less the 400-640 lbs fictional weight of the T-800.
@@KonstantinChervyakovkoStantes всё у него получилось. Во-первых, кукольное мельтешение (stop-motion) ушло. Во-вторых освещение (like RTX) сделало терминатора объемнее и страшнее, вы его зубы видели? В-третьих, фон (blue background) убрал.
@@kinoproector Я ничего не писал ни про движение, ни про освещение, ни про фон. Я написал про про то, что у Т-800 характерное лицо. Форма черепа если хотите. Вот эту самую морду мало кто умеет нарисовать, чтоб было похоже на Кемероновскую.
As a native french speaker, I did not understand what they were saying 💀 so imma say spanish too (but the "no!" sounds like "non!" which is the french for no)
This is EXCELLENT! It doesn’t change the look all that much but that’s why it’s perfect! Stop motion animation was used for the VFX, but your CGI elevates the scene without being too outdated.
You should reopen the project files, add some minor jiggle to the joints so you can emulate the mechanics being imperfect and simulate some of the stop motion jank as robotics jank
Those stop-motion scenes have been smoothed with frame-interpolation. They don't look as good. There's something about stop-motion frame rates that enhance the other worldlyness of robots and some creatures
I was kind of afraid that the CGI would ruin the kind of eerie, inhuman/robotic jank of the original stop motion but you did a pretty good job keeping that intact. Also great job making it blend with the lighting in the movie. This looks better than some modern CGI which just looks like they barely even tried to blend it in with the actual footage.
My favorite change that you made is the close up shots, where you kept it facing directly into the camera. The puppet couldn't really articulate its neck, so its head moved wherever the torso went. Your version never breaks eye contact. It's just lifelessly staring through your soul.
i dissagree, in fact he should have left the puppet part, in fact it would be a shame to let the really cool looking puppet go to waist, that is more realistic looking than the blender, however the parts covered in darkness and the STOP GO MOTHION parts look fantastic. he did an exlilent job with smoothing up the choppy effects form the stop go motion.
@@Anamnesis Looks to me as if the puppet could articulate its neck occasionly. Watch closely at the other scenes. It couldn't do it so well - that's the difference.
I think the face looked goofy with the bigger redder eyes, and the metal cranium wasn't lit the same in the close up so alot of detail was gone that made the t-800 look goofy instead of menacing..
I personally liked how the head was moving along with the torso a bit because it gave the idea that the terminator was losing it’s stability a little bit
Gotta appreciate the effort that some people have on their lower specs PC. Some people always have an excuse of not getting into stuff like blender just because they don't have an i9 and 3090
A metal skeleton chasing you down a dark hallway, no matter if stop motion or 3D animation, IS scary. But 3D animation made it that much more fluid and thus added to the blood chilling effect. The original was mostly a static prop with glowing eyes, the entire motion came from the torso. You added neck movement, giving the T-800 an even scarier touch. It is searching for you, noticing you, coming for you. That truly added to the fear factor. Well done.
@@phrixos2826 Then explain to me why the Terminator turned around while coming around the corner utilizing its torso, while in the make-over, it turns its head with a short move of the neck. Either it was a static prop they moved around on the torso or they couldn't move the neck mid-take for one way or another. I mean they used a large and chunky hydraulics pump (I guess?) to move the endoskeleton out of the wreckage and flames, seemingly the animatronics back then were not as sophisticated as in during the making of Jurassic Park. Fact: The neck movement is more frightening.
Actually at that point it weren't anymore T-800 since it didn't have its skin. Programwise yes but T-800s are based on endoskeleton named T-101 or CSM-101 (Cyberdyne Systems Model) to say it differently since it means the same. And to mix it even more James Cameron stated that "...the model 101s all look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. That makes me wonder what is the difference between T-800 and T-101 when James Cameron says something like that? Edit. Found the explanation: the Terminator endoskeleton is a T-800, while 101 means Model 101, which is Arnold Schwarzenegger's skin and likeness, crafted onto the T-800 endoskeleton. So I was wrong on my original stating.
This is very well done, but the only real improvement I see is the motion with the 3D model. It's no longer stuttery like it was in the original due to the original model being stop-motion animated. The original model had better detail in it's design and the lighting generally looks better, especially in the fire shot. But overall this was a good proof of concept piece.
You're right. I think the main reason is that CGI will never look as good as practical, which much of James Camerons work was practical. I think the only way to make this better is to completely remake the model and capture as much of the original movements as reference, then mocap and track the scene in full, which is obviously costly. I think this guys version shows what can be done with little money and good reference to work from
The thing that mostly throws me off is that the weight of the t800 doesn’t feel right. It feels to light in my opinion. Apart from that I really like what you have done here. Incas never a fan of the stuttery stop motion of that time period even though I grew up with those movies.
@@gatolocoverga152 It's not much about the cgi quality( yes they used cheaper effects)since there are movies from the era that looked amazing( they could have done better, lord of the rings for example and it came in 2001 while the starwars special edition edits came in 2004) but more of how they edited the scenes and how they placed the cgi that makes it look jarring at times, there some that look ok but like someone commented above there are scenes where you go like " wtf is this?" cause is just there to show cgi, its unnecessary and doesn't contribute anything of importance to the scene.
One of the greatest films ever made. The 80s were ablaze with originality, but occasionally the technology couldn't quite keep up. You did this justice - thank you! 🤩🤩
You done a great job and it looks very realistic. My comment is about the fact I dunno what anyone else thinks but to me the way that the stop motion (original version) looked made it creepy as hell and I feel the complete realness of things nowadays takes that creepy unexplained inorganic movement out of movies to the point where it’s just real and therefore doesn’t feel out of sorts which I feel played on your mind and made you feel a certain type of way. Now I was brought up watching the old style so I have no idea how people of this age think about it, but what I do know is we all used to rave about films back in the day and nowadays people mostly criticise every new movie that comes out.
See, i don't get the hate for Dark Fate. What is it that you actually don't like about it? I know it's got some serious curdled-girl-power cringe holding it back in a few spots. And they're still trying to out-gimmick the T-1000. But i genuinely don't get what all the hate is about.
@@Denchar1138 But by the rules set out by Dark Fate, is John even dead? If Skynet could send Terminators into a timeline where it no longer exists, then there is a chance that John could do the same to himself.
@@existenceisrelative poor acting, awfully written characters, nonsensical story, and above all... taking one of the best action movies ever made, and punting it out the window in order to ham fistedly force identity politics into the franchise.
@@JmAnYoShI Your opinion, not really for the most part, you're outright wrong about this one, aaaand the real reason you don't like the movie. And yeah it's annoying, but not enough for me to hate the movie.
This is great. The only quibble is that the close up of the head in the original, the glow of the red eyes reflects off of the metal on the cheek area. There is little to no reflection on the new version. It’s most noticable @4:47 during the side by side. Maybe the orignal was a metal puppet.
I seen this back when you did you it, and here I am again. You actually did a pretty good job, especially as a 'beginner'. Extremely impressive. I just have no idea why you redid the part at 2:37. The physical prop looked perfect here, and extremely menacing looking. Its my favourite shot of the T800 Endo. No CGI will beat that prop.
Well, for me, there is something scarier and more realistic in stop motion, compared to newer technologies. Terminator and some Robocop scenes will forever give me chills. I appreciate the effort, don't get me wrong.
I love that you still kept the stop motion movement instead of making it smoother like modern movies. The stop motion movement makes it more terrifying. Amazing effort 👌
This was the only movie that gave me nightmares for days when I was a kid thinking there could possibly be a terminator out there somewhere. Now I watch it with such nostalgic feelings as an adult. The way this terminator moved gave me goosebumps. Good work!
The original scared me as a kid. Watching this version as a kid would be even more terrifying. Thankfully, I've watched this movie a lot that I have become desensitized from it. Phenomenal work man!
Amazing what you can achieve with slight, detailed modification of the original footage, but also daunting the amount of effort and skill it takes to get there.
@@anulearntech I respectfully disagree. The stop motion made it look very twitchy and unnerving... Almost otherworldly, one could say. The smoother it is- the more natural it is, and being natural reduces the feeling of horror.
Because this movie was made in 1984, which was thirty-seven years ago... What do you mean "why don't they just hire you?" For what? Reanimating movies from thirty years ago? Your comment makes it sound like Cameron should have hired OP over whoever did the effects for this movie, but... how? Should James Cameron have used a time machine to travel into the future and bring OP back with him? These effects were AMAZING for 1984... so for you to comment about OP's being "so much better", is kind of a slap in the face to the amazing work the original people did. That's like saying, "Man, the effects in The Time Machine (1961) look so dated... why didn't they get Guillaume Rocheron (Oscar winning effect supervisor for "1917") to do them... even though he was born twenty years after the movie came out?!?"
@@mattbrendlen Never did I once say that Cameron should have hired him, I’m saying that the new movies like Terminator Dark Fate, and Genesis should have hired this guy because of how good his work is, the originals still have better effects than the newer movies. I never said that the old movies look terrible. Looks like you might have an extra chromosome in your cells 🤷
People in the comments section complaining about the endoskelton and me here I can't just imagine some one even making such a thing possible awesome job bro
@RSS- DR-Kumar 666 Skynet is not a very smart AI. Compare it to the Matrix instead, the genius behind them is almost demonic. But skynet...Skynet is a slightly above average AI who toke advantage of the political situation of the cold war 60-80s. In the matrix instead the AI had time to turn into a super intelligence and become invincible.
Yeah t2 really ruined terminator. I'm not denying that it wasn't fun sometimes but it wasn't the same thing anymore. They made the machine a joke with humor and making it non threatening... ☹️👎
I am what you'd consider a "diehard" fan of the first 2 movies and have seen them both over 10 times. I think you did a wonderful job here, especially considering it's Blender. That program is getting to be incredible. I can see you approached this as a fan and took it as a challenge. Not necessarily to "fix" anything, but to see if it could be done. You were successful, IMO. Major props for fixing that blue fringe from the bluescreen plate.
A few shots look better, like when you close the door, other shots i think the original reflects the light better and the material looks more real, since it's an actual puppet.
Yes. There’s a reason why puppets and props held up well over the years. I can see a few spots where a CGI would have worked better. It’s the reason why Terminator 2 is considered to have one of best special effects of all cinema history, it used every trick in the book and kept you guessing.
It was non free software, but the owner company went bankrupt in 2002. Long story short (you can find easily more details over the web), the software was saved thanks to a successful crowdfunding, initiated by its creator, to make it open source.
This is very well done. There is a very unsettling creepiness to the original stop-motion effect, and I was worried that it would lose its potency here. But you've managed to capture that horror and recreate it beautifully. Fantastic work!
Whoever you are, I’m impressed. You improved only what needed to be fixed, and didn’t step all over what made this prop terrifying to begin with. VERY nice touch with having the terminator lock onto them like a robot would have done. YOU should be getting paid by Cameron if they ever decide to make a good terminator movie.
Honestly, I love the direction you are going. However as a fan of the original, this seems a little too uncanny valley compared to the stop motion. Maybe reduce the Hz refresh rate to match the film speed. It might work to make the movement less fluid and more in sync with the film speed rate. Also try nyxing some of the sheen on the metal. Keep it smooth, but mottle the shine a tad. It was in a fire. Not much in the way of critique other than those. 7/10!
Agree with the 7/10. Solid effort, dudes...just that the motions were a little too smooth, which tend to be a bit of a give away with cg animation in general.
With the exception of first comment, it’s refreshing to see positive feedback and constructive criticism as opposed to just pure negativity... Agree with original posters comments entirely
I highly disagree. He basically single handedly replicated the same thing, mostly made it better looking than the original one was. You sound like you're being blinded by nostalgia so you look down on his 3D work a bit. Maybe that's not the case but to me it sounds that way. Anyways, the segment indeed holds up still to this day, Stan Winston wasn't famous for nothing after all.
@@TAURON85 i think its because terminator films today have no puppets just cgi thats why the t1 and t2 terminator endoskeletons look so real because they are real and not cgi
@@TAURON85 It should be noted that 3D model only replaces a few shots here, mostly those made with stop motion. Otherwise 70% of what you see here are original animatronics from the movie. In my humble opinion in both cases long shots are a firm weak spot of effects: CGI is better with lighting, but stop-motion has better gasp on character movement. Most of the shots replaced were not by Stan Winston (there are eight stop-motion shots of endoskelton and all of them were by Fantasy II artist Doug Beswick) and while the job is really hands down impressive for one VFX artist their skills are uneven (that's why VFX departments are huge), so there are some weak spots in compositing and animation. It's easily a level of mid-budget TV shows, though: that should work great for portfolio.
@@TAURON85 The only thing that is better in that cgi in my opinion, is the fluid motion compared to the stopmotion animation in this scenes Model detail, motion details in the keyframes, the texture and lighting of the original scenes are much better.
Fun Fact: at 0:26, you can see a stage hand behind the fire pulling on a bar to raise the Terminator out of the fire on a rig like a see saw. His hands are right above Reese's elbow
It looks awesome but there is something with the original terminator movements that make it creepier than the new one, because it looks more robotic and natural
they were also hurt and exhausted. A limping terminator still has infinite stamina and as you can see in those scenes he is still moving faster than regular walking speed.
@@SpriGgEx they just had to get to a place where people/cops driving by can see a walking machine. The cops/military/authorities would've taken care of the rest. Plus Sara, the primary target was okay. She could still have outran the terminator. T800 wouldn't have killed Reese if both of them split up.
I love how you managed to make it look like a Practical effect. I didn't even realize the Terminator was moving smoother until I remembered how the original was.
i gotta point out how amazing the LIGHTING looks on this. Good lighting match is one of the biggest keys to making great looking CG. even a slight tone or reflection difference with the background can completely ruin it the look, and you actually managed to IMPROVE it over the puppet in most cuts. you can see what i mean with the fire scene at 4:07 , which was a little off compared to all the rest. amazing job!
I like the fact you kept the animations and simply touched up the images as they were. Two years ago I showed this film to my daughter. I told her that this was a horror movie. She watched the movie very carefully and in this final scene as the machine limped down the hallway she whispered "Oh my god." When the film was over she said "your right 100 percent horror."
This video right here proves that when you nail the lighting your model doesn't just "look realistic" but it feels real. Because you emulated the same lighting of the original your animation doesn't even feel like it was cgi and I mean that as a compliment!
Why? As someone who thinks that too many movies since the 2000s have relied on cgi for borderline *everything* in films, and prefers stop-motion, go-motion, miniatures, suitmation, and practical effects (2d animation included) due to the raw realism those effects convey as opposed to cgi - even I would think that the AVGN would be just as impressed as I am, especially considering how this was made by one person in Blender as opposed to 5-dozen sweat shop animators in Bejing/New Delhi/Pyongyang with every Apple or HP computer they were forced to build themselves under inhumane conditio- I mean, were happily _"provided"_ from the tech giants themselves.
Kirk Daniel Hall No one’s complaining that it looked bad even then but it just looks really dated today. No one ever complained about the scene in this video looking bad as it was but the updated animation just looks a lot better.
I guess it's more jarring because the rest of the movie holds up so well and doesn't feel dated compared with many other 80s movies that are severely 'of their time'
There are no problems with that animatronic. The only problem in that scene is cutting from putting sunglasses on to real arnold fixing his hair in the mirror. It needed another cut to kyle in between to make it work. Like in alien, abrupt cuts between prop and actor just emphasizes how fake the prop is. After the terminator repairs itself, we don't see all that much or closeup of arnold anymore, and although you can see Arnold's real eyes through the glasses when he leans in for "i'll be back", the rest of the movie does a good job mixing takes of real/prop in a believable way. Jump cuts from prop to real are bad
I love this. The stop motion looked terrible back then and it looks terrible today. This looks a thousand times better. God job! The movie company should reach out to you to make this improvement on the next release of the movie.
That is the best damn job I have ever seen...On every re-release or remaster I hoped they would do this...Great job. Can you try to make arnold more realistic in the scene where he removed his eye? It is clearly a puppet. But again , this is brilliant work.
@@Storyx1For me, it looks good enough. You are a proof that cgi does not cost millions of dollars for a few scenes. Hope to see you do the arnold scene soon :)
I think it looks good! If people will complain, it's the nostalgia that's getting the best of them. It looks far more improved and photo real. Keep it up!
I like how you tried to make the T800 look bigger. I always loved this scene, but always felt the endoskeleton looked way too small to hold the frame of a man as big as Arnold.
why would you want to make it bigger? it was already unrealistically too big especially considering Arnold is was 6 foot 2 in his prime, when it is coming up on them when theyre trying to close the door on him that endoskeleton looks 7 foot at least, even when i was 10 years old watching the movie i was like wait a minute
@@tonyHern865 i am referring to the endo skeleton in the original movie, the stop motion version of it was enormous compared to the practical version, the practical version was actually just a torso being held by guys off cam, but when it walking up to the door as theyre closing it you can see its around 7 feet tall, but i love the movie its a nit pick i can live with
The most impressive thing to me here is, he had to go through the trouble of removing the original elements from the background plate to make this work. That's a crazy amount of work. James Cameron ought to hire this person and release a full Special Edition, a la George Lucas.
Great job! as a veteran in the cgi industry, I approve!!! I grew up seeing this in the theatres back in the 80's. This movie will always be iconic and legendary.
the 3d animation looks amazing it looks way better than any of the newer terminator movies,they should hire you for the next terminator if they ever do one because the 3d animation makes it look terrifying
@@dynamo4543 Idem for me this "thing" is a shame and is insulting the franchise. I dan't know what James Cameron was thinking about to produce a film like this :(
@@SpecialOrder_937 The original Terminator's inability to actually look in the right direction was always distracting to me. The model itself looks improved, and scarier here, but not as good in the scene where it walks out of the fire ( 0:47 ).
Ahora si luce amenazante y coherente con los T 800 que salen en las secuelas. Ojalá le hicieran una remasterizacion oficial a Terminator 1 como está de aquí,ya se le notan sus años
So I've watched the "making of" extras that came with T2 and Toy Story where they show off expensive workstations that only a movie studio could afford that cost more than my house, and here I am watching something better quality done by one person as a learning exercise. 👌
Really awesome work mate! A few bits were even better than the original movie - In particular the terminator head and eyes aimed at the camera instead of offscreen when they're going up the stairs is great! Really elevated that scene. Other areas had some criticism from me: I think you lost a little bit of the "urgent powerful" movements of the terminator that the original had, particularly in the door break scene. Though what you did was extremely close! The terminator itself would have fit into the scene more if you went for a less chrome material. It needed to be more diffuse and never really pure black dark (due to the chrome reflections). Otherwise definitely the best remaster I've ever seen! Watching this made we want to watch the movie again. :)
I love how you modified the skull. It looks more terrifying. This shit used to scare the hell out of me when I was a kid, and now at almost 41 years old it still scares the shit out of me.
I've been waiting to see something like this for years. since it was always known that budget limitations meant that the T-800 scenes could not be completed correctly. It was not a limitation of the time. So I wouldn't mind seeing an edited version by James Cameron. I imagine he would look this amazing. This version is even scarier. excellent work!!!
I’m a long time fan of the franchise, despite recent iterations...and I must say, for a fan made redo on free software, this is great work... Please take anything I say after this with a grain of salt and recognise it’s meant as constructive feedback on something’s as a fan I noticed which if you were to give this a second go after taking various feedback to make it even better then awesome. None of what follows is negative disparagement When emerging from the fire, the model used was clearly different enough that the change was “obvious”...namely that the teeth seemed overly large, almost cartoonishly so in their size and human whiteness as opposed to the original full sized mannequins subdued colours and size... The animation itself was BRILLIANT and got rid of the jerky ness etc, the main thing I’d suggest there is trying to add a bit more texture focus...again I understand this is homemade fan work, but one key element to good cgi in this age is when there’s switches between cg models and practical props, the cg should try and match the texture details of the physical props, such as reflective surfaces being more reflective, or seeming an almost different colour. And after seeing another comment on this point, I’d agree that taking the first bit of Kyle and Sarah backing away and up the stairs, since you can here the sound effect of “terminator vision”...taking a few frames of that footage, putting the red filter and some of the tech read outs in...maybe 1-1.5 seconds worth... The old saying in film with various effects, be they practical or cg is coming back in however many years and thinking “hmm, this did(n’t) age well” Considering the levels of cg available at the time were barely existent, I’d say that IF this was what was professionally created by the studio on big Hollywood budget at the time...it would be viewed with the same level of “did it hold up” as the stop motion did in the original...it was GREAT in its day, but we as a movie audience have been spoiled rotten the past 20+ years... So summed up, this is very well done, no one is denying, nor is it worth denying that given some time and a few tweaks, it can’t be denied it could also be better...but it’s still beautiful to see 👍
Wow! You did an amazing job! The animation and the composition looks really amazing! I LOVED it. I'm just a bit sorry about the endoskeleton. It looks quite diffrent from the original t-800. There is one online that is almost the same one. I could give it to you if you want to try it. Anyway, what you did was spectacular.
I'd also like to see the T-800's POV of Sarah and Reese at the stairwell be red with all the technical data superimposed like the other POV shots, not clear with no data. You hear the sound-effect of the POV, but the POV's visual-effect is not there. T1 was a low-budget movie and I guess Cameron ran out of money to complete that one shot in 1984.
And it be all glitching out just very little to reflect the minimal damage the T-800 had sustained. Have a damage meter at like 89% to show how little damage it had taken up until this point and its only real damage being in the leg. It would add to the Terminator's badassness and the hopelessness of the scene.
Higher frame rate does not mean smoother animation. That’s one misconception that a lot of people make when they see animation that’s choppy. You can make any frame rate look fantastic depending on the quality of the animation itself. You have to use ease in ease out to achieve that “smooth” and natural movement. They have used that technique here, but it’s also a lot of guesswork because they simply didn’t have the technology to playback previous frames; resulting in some choppiness.
@@HellNY The teeth, only criticism I have. Too white. The original close-up puppet by Stan Winston looks fucking terrifying though, it has this sadistic grin
While stop motion has its drawbacks it usually shows human flaws in motion slightly better. CGI always looks too perfect. Computers haven't learned to incorporate the imperfections of movement yet. It looks effortless. I would recommend looking at the MIT cheetah robot for movement flaws based in reality. However, I think an actual human robot is not too far away from actually happening. My score: 8/10
To be honest, the original stop motion in this scene was leaving quite a lot to be desired. Lack of technology wasn't an excuse back in '84, because I've seem much more fluent stop motion being done back in the 70s. It was either laziness, or Cameron was running out of money and/or time. I know he did run out of money, which made him film a few scenes illegally, but I'm not sure if that's the same reason which caused the stop motion in this scene to not be so good.
@@CattleCluj Agreed. Money and time were pretty much gone. Love the fact that Arnold had to randomly smash a car window with his fist and then leave before the cops arrived.
@@Star-Explorers Ha ha ha ha ha! Just don't tell me the car was just a random car. It had to be a movie prop which they placed there before shooting the scene.
I'd rather the original. There's just something about the stop motion which adds an eeriness to it. However, as short as that clip at 2:37 is, that really adds a lot. I love that part. Great job there 🙂
I've always wanted to see what the finale would have looked like without the janky stop motion. Looks great, more realistic, so yeah, tge motion is great, Thank you. However, I like the look of tge other Terminator. I prefer its skull-like appearance. Skulls are just more ominous. But really, great work.
I made this video 4 years ago and I just wanted to learn new skills and having fun :)
Не знаю почему, но сколько не видел попыток воссоздать оригинальный образ t-800, никто не может точно воспроизвести его лицо. Форма головы и лица очень специфические. К сожалению тебе это тоже не удалось. Хотя работа проделана отличная👍
Any thoughts on revising it with your skills now? I assume you're well aware the issue with both the original and your CG version is the animation is too floaty- the T-800 moves like it weighs 15 lbs, not 235 lbs (Arnold at the time), much less the 400-640 lbs fictional weight of the T-800.
@@KonstantinChervyakovkoStantes всё у него получилось. Во-первых, кукольное мельтешение (stop-motion) ушло. Во-вторых освещение (like RTX) сделало терминатора объемнее и страшнее, вы его зубы видели? В-третьих, фон (blue background) убрал.
still nice
@@kinoproector Я ничего не писал ни про движение, ни про освещение, ни про фон. Я написал про про то, что у Т-800 характерное лицо. Форма черепа если хотите. Вот эту самую морду мало кто умеет нарисовать, чтоб было похоже на Кемероновскую.
They need to bring terminator back to its horror roots
i've been saying this for years T2 left the horror behind, i had hoped they'd get back to it on terminator salvation , but nope ....
@@DenverStarkey but I love T2🥺
@@junjunsay93
i like T2 as well but it's still not scary while the first movie was.
T2 and T1 have the same relationship that Alien and Aliens have.
And have Arnold's son play the terminator. Have Arnie dub his son. Once James Cameron gets the rights back.
I need your clothes, your rig and your blender skills
Hahahaha... you forgot to say please
Your skills. Give them to me. Now!
The clothes, ok. The blender skills are negotiable, but if you want the rig COME AND GET IT!!!
Can’t let you take the man’s skills, son. 🔫
i need your boots, your cores, and your blender cycles..
Sarah was so impressed by the 3D animation, she started speaking french!
Sounds Spanish to me
@@joebob8713 Nah,that's French
@@megatronofkaon Sprench
As a native french speaker, I did not understand what they were saying 💀 so imma say spanish too (but the "no!" sounds like "non!" which is the french for no)
As one of the commenters said, "sprench"
Having the terminator lock onto the camera as it was walking up the stairs creeped the hell out of me 😳
As if the T-800 face design wasn´t horrifying enough
I know this movie is the reason i have a fear of machines, probably wasnt a good idea watching this at 4 year's old lmao
This is EXCELLENT! It doesn’t change the look all that much but that’s why it’s perfect! Stop motion animation was used for the VFX, but your CGI elevates the scene without being too outdated.
I have to admit I always wanted the stop motion scenes to be smoothed. Imagine watching this in 1984!
Audiences would have been even more terrified than they were at the Stop Motion Terminator
Yeah, the stop motion always took me right out of the scene. Just like CGI, you know it's not there.
@@stoneyboydthe stop motion is more scary
You should reopen the project files, add some minor jiggle to the joints so you can emulate the mechanics being imperfect and simulate some of the stop motion jank as robotics jank
Those stop-motion scenes have been smoothed with frame-interpolation. They don't look as good. There's something about stop-motion frame rates that enhance the other worldlyness of robots and some creatures
I was kind of afraid that the CGI would ruin the kind of eerie, inhuman/robotic jank of the original stop motion but you did a pretty good job keeping that intact. Also great job making it blend with the lighting in the movie. This looks better than some modern CGI which just looks like they barely even tried to blend it in with the actual footage.
Well a lot of shots are still the real robot puppet. Nothing beats a blend of good CG and animatronics.
That’s why it’s called “blender”?
Blender is 3d software he used to make T800.
Well, I don’t know, it looks like 3D from the late 90s and early 00s
My favorite change that you made is the close up shots, where you kept it facing directly into the camera. The puppet couldn't really articulate its neck, so its head moved wherever the torso went. Your version never breaks eye contact. It's just lifelessly staring through your soul.
i dissagree, in fact he should have left the puppet part, in fact it would be a shame to let the really cool looking puppet go to waist, that is more realistic looking than the blender, however the parts covered in darkness and the STOP GO MOTHION parts look fantastic. he did an exlilent job with smoothing up the choppy effects form the stop go motion.
@@skeletronmk6669 Proofreading. Try it sometime.
@@Anamnesis
Looks to me as if the puppet could articulate its neck occasionly. Watch closely at the other scenes. It couldn't do it so well - that's the difference.
I think the face looked goofy with the bigger redder eyes, and the metal cranium wasn't lit the same in the close up so alot of detail was gone that made the t-800 look goofy instead of menacing..
I personally liked how the head was moving along with the torso a bit because it gave the idea that the terminator was losing it’s stability a little bit
Gotta appreciate the effort that some people have on their lower specs PC. Some people always have an excuse of not getting into stuff like blender just because they don't have an i9 and 3090
A metal skeleton chasing you down a dark hallway, no matter if stop motion or 3D animation, IS scary. But 3D animation made it that much more fluid and thus added to the blood chilling effect. The original was mostly a static prop with glowing eyes, the entire motion came from the torso. You added neck movement, giving the T-800 an even scarier touch. It is searching for you, noticing you, coming for you. That truly added to the fear factor. Well done.
it wasnt a static prop, they made a fully poseable figure
@@phrixos2826 Then explain to me why the Terminator turned around while coming around the corner utilizing its torso, while in the make-over, it turns its head with a short move of the neck. Either it was a static prop they moved around on the torso or they couldn't move the neck mid-take for one way or another.
I mean they used a large and chunky hydraulics pump (I guess?) to move the endoskeleton out of the wreckage and flames, seemingly the animatronics back then were not as sophisticated as in during the making of Jurassic Park. Fact: The neck movement is more frightening.
@@VariusMayhem To me the original Footage looks better, but stil well done by Storyx
Actually at that point it weren't anymore T-800 since it didn't have its skin.
Programwise yes but T-800s are based on endoskeleton named T-101 or CSM-101 (Cyberdyne Systems Model) to say it differently since it means the same.
And to mix it even more James Cameron stated that "...the model 101s all look like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
That makes me wonder what is the difference between T-800 and T-101 when James Cameron says something like that?
Edit. Found the explanation:
the Terminator endoskeleton is a T-800, while 101 means Model 101, which is Arnold Schwarzenegger's skin and likeness, crafted onto the T-800 endoskeleton.
So I was wrong on my original stating.
This is very well done, but the only real improvement I see is the motion with the 3D model. It's no longer stuttery like it was in the original due to the original model being stop-motion animated. The original model had better detail in it's design and the lighting generally looks better, especially in the fire shot. But overall this was a good proof of concept piece.
You're right. I think the main reason is that CGI will never look as good as practical, which much of James Camerons work was practical. I think the only way to make this better is to completely remake the model and capture as much of the original movements as reference, then mocap and track the scene in full, which is obviously costly. I think this guys version shows what can be done with little money and good reference to work from
This was my thoughts exact.
@@madmike987655 I think that’s just because the frame rate doesn’t match with the background
@@madmike987655 Or maybe DAIN could help?
The thing that mostly throws me off is that the weight of the t800 doesn’t feel right. It feels to light in my opinion.
Apart from that I really like what you have done here. Incas never a fan of the stuttery stop motion of that time period even though I grew up with those movies.
Looks way better than when George Lucas decided to replace stuff with cgi in the old starwars films.
That is for certain. But as long as the artist respects the vision of James Cameron here, they won't go wrong
Isn’t that the truth!
The only change I mind is the GODDAMN dinosaur walking in front of the camera as Luke and Ben are stopped by troopers. WHY?!
George did with 90 and early 00 CGI technology. (wich it sucks ) .Now CGI improves a lot
@@gatolocoverga152 It's not much about the cgi quality( yes they used cheaper effects)since there are movies from the era that looked amazing( they could have done better, lord of the rings for example and it came in 2001 while the starwars special edition edits came in 2004) but more of how they edited the scenes and how they placed the cgi that makes it look jarring at times, there some that look ok but like someone commented above there are scenes where you go like " wtf is this?" cause is just there to show cgi, its unnecessary and doesn't contribute anything of importance to the scene.
One of the greatest films ever made. The 80s were ablaze with originality, but occasionally the technology couldn't quite keep up. You did this justice - thank you! 🤩🤩
You done a great job and it looks very realistic. My comment is about the fact I dunno what anyone else thinks but to me the way that the stop motion (original version) looked made it creepy as hell and I feel the complete realness of things nowadays takes that creepy unexplained inorganic movement out of movies to the point where it’s just real and therefore doesn’t feel out of sorts which I feel played on your mind and made you feel a certain type of way. Now I was brought up watching the old style so I have no idea how people of this age think about it, but what I do know is we all used to rave about films back in the day and nowadays people mostly criticise every new movie that comes out.
They shouldn’t be so scared. It probably just wants to help carry the shopping bags and ask what curtain patterns they want for John.
See, i don't get the hate for Dark Fate. What is it that you actually don't like about it?
I know it's got some serious curdled-girl-power cringe holding it back in a few spots. And they're still trying to out-gimmick the T-1000.
But i genuinely don't get what all the hate is about.
@@existenceisrelative They hated the fact that John got killed off. For many fans of the series, that was a line that should not have been crossed.
@@Denchar1138 But by the rules set out by Dark Fate, is John even dead? If Skynet could send Terminators into a timeline where it no longer exists, then there is a chance that John could do the same to himself.
@@existenceisrelative poor acting, awfully written characters, nonsensical story, and above all... taking one of the best action movies ever made, and punting it out the window in order to ham fistedly force identity politics into the franchise.
@@JmAnYoShI Your opinion, not really for the most part, you're outright wrong about this one, aaaand the real reason you don't like the movie. And yeah it's annoying, but not enough for me to hate the movie.
This is great. The only quibble is that the close up of the head in the original, the glow of the red eyes reflects off of the metal on the cheek area. There is little to no reflection on the new version. It’s most noticable @4:47 during the side by side. Maybe the orignal was a metal puppet.
I've seen this movie hundreds of times and I could only tell the differences during the extreme close-ups. Splendid work!
I seen this back when you did you it, and here I am again. You actually did a pretty good job, especially as a 'beginner'. Extremely impressive.
I just have no idea why you redid the part at 2:37. The physical prop looked perfect here, and extremely menacing looking. Its my favourite shot of the T800 Endo.
No CGI will beat that prop.
Well, for me, there is something scarier and more realistic in stop motion, compared to newer technologies.
Terminator and some Robocop scenes will forever give me chills. I appreciate the effort, don't get me wrong.
I love that you still kept the stop motion movement instead of making it smoother like modern movies. The stop motion movement makes it more terrifying. Amazing effort 👌
This was the only movie that gave me nightmares for days when I was a kid thinking there could possibly be a terminator out there somewhere. Now I watch it with such nostalgic feelings as an adult.
The way this terminator moved gave me goosebumps. Good work!
The original scared me as a kid. Watching this version as a kid would be even more terrifying. Thankfully, I've watched this movie a lot that I have become desensitized from it.
Phenomenal work man!
No they shouldn't
Amazing what you can achieve with slight, detailed modification of the original footage, but also daunting the amount of effort and skill it takes to get there.
Nothing can beat the original.
But the considerable work you've done shines on its own!
that stop motion was like 5 fps in the original...
this is better than the original. much more believable.
Same opinion.
I usually agree, but this beats the original by a lot. A rare win, I’d genuinely consider editing this into my copy of Terminator.
@@anulearntech I respectfully disagree. The stop motion made it look very twitchy and unnerving... Almost otherworldly, one could say. The smoother it is- the more natural it is, and being natural reduces the feeling of horror.
This looks much better than the CGI from some of the later movies as well LOL, why don’t they just hire you?
Because they would rather pay millions for crap. Like removing Supermans mustache lol
@JM Coulon Don't even get me started on that crap lol.
Because this movie was made in 1984, which was thirty-seven years ago...
What do you mean "why don't they just hire you?" For what? Reanimating movies from thirty years ago?
Your comment makes it sound like Cameron should have hired OP over whoever did the effects for this movie, but... how? Should James Cameron have used a time machine to travel into the future and bring OP back with him? These effects were AMAZING for 1984... so for you to comment about OP's being "so much better", is kind of a slap in the face to the amazing work the original people did.
That's like saying, "Man, the effects in The Time Machine (1961) look so dated... why didn't they get Guillaume Rocheron (Oscar winning effect supervisor for "1917") to do them... even though he was born twenty years after the movie came out?!?"
@@mattbrendlen Never did I once say that Cameron should have hired him, I’m saying that the new movies like Terminator Dark Fate, and Genesis should have hired this guy because of how good his work is, the originals still have better effects than the newer movies. I never said that the old movies look terrible. Looks like you might have an extra chromosome in your cells 🤷
@@thespidermastermind5971 Mmm...
People in the comments section complaining about the endoskelton and me here I can't just imagine some one even making such a thing possible awesome job bro
2:39
cover terminator's eyes by your hand
and you will see an alien
Ha that's actually kinda cool
This is genius. Why doesn’t this have more likes yet?
Not for long you wouldn’t. It would start to throw you against things.
@RSS- DR-Kumar 666 Skynet is not a very smart AI. Compare it to the Matrix instead, the genius behind them is almost demonic. But skynet...Skynet is a slightly above average AI who toke advantage of the political situation of the cold war 60-80s. In the matrix instead the AI had time to turn into a super intelligence and become invincible.
How in the world did you find this out? lol
I know T2 is everybodie's darling, but the acting, chemistrie and character development of Linda and Michael in T1 are unbeaten.
Yeah t2 really ruined terminator. I'm not denying that it wasn't fun sometimes but it wasn't the same thing anymore. They made the machine a joke with humor and making it non threatening... ☹️👎
I am what you'd consider a "diehard" fan of the first 2 movies and have seen them both over 10 times. I think you did a wonderful job here, especially considering it's Blender. That program is getting to be incredible. I can see you approached this as a fan and took it as a challenge. Not necessarily to "fix" anything, but to see if it could be done. You were successful, IMO. Major props for fixing that blue fringe from the bluescreen plate.
A few shots look better, like when you close the door, other shots i think the original reflects the light better and the material looks more real, since it's an actual puppet.
I’d agree, but wow, what an intense scene (both versions). The effects do their job and help sell the terror of the premise.
Yes. There’s a reason why puppets and props held up well over the years. I can see a few spots where a CGI would have worked better. It’s the reason why Terminator 2 is considered to have one of best special effects of all cinema history, it used every trick in the book and kept you guessing.
@@TheGary108 and it was done by Stan Winston who was the top dog with SFX.
I sometimes wonder if the makers of Blender regret making their software free of charge.
This looks great BTW!
It was non free software, but the owner company went bankrupt in 2002. Long story short (you can find easily more details over the web), the software was saved thanks to a successful crowdfunding, initiated by its creator, to make it open source.
@@MonsieurHolmes Ah, very interesting. Thanks for the info!
@@MonsieurHolmes wow i didn't know that. Awesome!
Well, the guy who invented seat belts gave his design for free for the betterment of mankind. So there's still some nobility out there x
@@eliasripley2357 the woman. It was his wife who came up with the idea. 💡
This is very well done. There is a very unsettling creepiness to the original stop-motion effect, and I was worried that it would lose its potency here. But you've managed to capture that horror and recreate it beautifully. Fantastic work!
Thank you for keeping the iconic puppet parts in there
Ton travail est énorme mec, chapeau bas !! Nos français ont du talent !
I like how you made the terminator look like his Stop motion counter part good job.
Whoever you are, I’m impressed. You improved only what needed to be fixed, and didn’t step all over what made this prop terrifying to begin with. VERY nice touch with having the terminator lock onto them like a robot would have done. YOU should be getting paid by Cameron if they ever decide to make a good terminator movie.
This is what my memory of the film looks like! Totally feels organic to the story.
with the blender model it looks way creepier than the original stop motion puppet nice work
Whoa, surprisingly well made!
Matching light, cleanups and compositing are flawless
Honestly, I love the direction you are going. However as a fan of the original, this seems a little too uncanny valley compared to the stop motion. Maybe reduce the Hz refresh rate to match the film speed. It might work to make the movement less fluid and more in sync with the film speed rate. Also try nyxing some of the sheen on the metal. Keep it smooth, but mottle the shine a tad. It was in a fire. Not much in the way of critique other than those. 7/10!
For real what a way to muck up
Agree with the 7/10. Solid effort, dudes...just that the motions were a little too smooth, which tend to be a bit of a give away with cg animation in general.
@@HorribleHomeVideo fr this stuff looks incredible
Great critique, l must say.
With the exception of first comment, it’s refreshing to see positive feedback and constructive criticism as opposed to just pure negativity...
Agree with original posters comments entirely
Good effort, but this goes to show just how good the original practical effects and cinematography can be.
I highly disagree. He basically single handedly replicated the same thing, mostly made it better looking than the original one was. You sound like you're being blinded by nostalgia so you look down on his 3D work a bit. Maybe that's not the case but to me it sounds that way. Anyways, the segment indeed holds up still to this day, Stan Winston wasn't famous for nothing after all.
@@TAURON85 i think its because terminator films today have no puppets just cgi thats why the t1 and t2 terminator endoskeletons look so real because they are real and not cgi
@@TAURON85 It should be noted that 3D model only replaces a few shots here, mostly those made with stop motion. Otherwise 70% of what you see here are original animatronics from the movie. In my humble opinion in both cases long shots are a firm weak spot of effects: CGI is better with lighting, but stop-motion has better gasp on character movement. Most of the shots replaced were not by Stan Winston (there are eight stop-motion shots of endoskelton and all of them were by Fantasy II artist Doug Beswick) and while the job is really hands down impressive for one VFX artist their skills are uneven (that's why VFX departments are huge), so there are some weak spots in compositing and animation. It's easily a level of mid-budget TV shows, though: that should work great for portfolio.
@@TAURON85 The only thing that is better in that cgi in my opinion, is the fluid motion compared to the stopmotion animation in this scenes
Model detail, motion details in the keyframes, the texture and lighting of the original scenes are much better.
Fun Fact: at 0:26, you can see a stage hand behind the fire pulling on a bar to raise the Terminator out of the fire on a rig like a see saw. His hands are right above Reese's elbow
This still feels faithful to the original. It hasn’t detracted from the horror. Nice work.
It looks awesome but there is something with the original terminator movements that make it creepier than the new one, because it looks more robotic and natural
Sarah connor: let's not outwalk a limping terminator. Let's instead, lock ourselves so he can eventually pin us down
This plot point has always irked me. Why try to escape into a locked building? Still one of my favourite films though ✌
Kyle is hurt so getting far away isn’t really an option.
they were also hurt and exhausted. A limping terminator still has infinite stamina and as you can see in those scenes he is still moving faster than regular walking speed.
@@SpriGgEx they just had to get to a place where people/cops driving by can see a walking machine. The cops/military/authorities would've taken care of the rest. Plus Sara, the primary target was okay. She could still have outran the terminator. T800 wouldn't have killed Reese if both of them split up.
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 not if they split. Kyle was never the target. The target was A-ok
You're Blender skills are so badass, Sarah started speaking a different language.
La Fierté de la Nation.. Très bon Boulot
I like that you kept that rigid stop motion walk. It really suits it.
I love how you managed to make it look like a Practical effect. I didn't even realize the Terminator was moving smoother until I remembered how the original was.
i gotta point out how amazing the LIGHTING looks on this.
Good lighting match is one of the biggest keys to making great looking CG. even a slight tone or reflection difference with the background can completely ruin it the look, and you actually managed to IMPROVE it over the puppet in most cuts.
you can see what i mean with the fire scene at 4:07 , which was a little off compared to all the rest.
amazing job!
The only part I prefer from the original would be the close-ups of the face near the end. Other than that, a damn good job!!!
That is some awesome work. I couldn't even tell that the physical T-800 model had been replaced in the close ups.
Done superbly smooth and perfect
I like the fact you kept the animations and simply touched up the images as they were.
Two years ago I showed this film to my daughter. I told her that this was a horror movie. She watched the movie very carefully and in this final scene as the machine limped down the hallway she whispered "Oh my god." When the film was over she said "your right 100 percent horror."
This video right here proves that when you nail the lighting your model doesn't just "look realistic" but it feels real. Because you emulated the same lighting of the original your animation doesn't even feel like it was cgi and I mean that as a compliment!
The lighting and the poses were off.
Don't show this to James Rolfe.
Hmm I think avgn should see this
Why.
Why? As someone who thinks that too many movies since the 2000s have relied on cgi for borderline *everything* in films, and prefers stop-motion, go-motion, miniatures, suitmation, and practical effects (2d animation included) due to the raw realism those effects convey as opposed to cgi - even I would think that the AVGN would be just as impressed as I am, especially considering how this was made by one person in Blender as opposed to 5-dozen sweat shop animators in Bejing/New Delhi/Pyongyang with every Apple or HP computer they were forced to build themselves under inhumane conditio- I mean, were happily _"provided"_ from the tech giants themselves.
James Rolfe is an idiot
@@NecropsY1 Literally the first time I've ever seen someone badmouth him.
He's such a chad who hasn't gotten himself into any form of drama.
Now you just need to replace the awkward dummy in the eye repair scene. Excellent
Kirk Daniel Hall No one’s complaining that it looked bad even then but it just looks really dated today. No one ever complained about the scene in this video looking bad as it was but the updated animation just looks a lot better.
I guess it's more jarring because the rest of the movie holds up so well and doesn't feel dated compared with many other 80s movies that are severely 'of their time'
There's already a fixed vid
Search it on RUclips
There are no problems with that animatronic. The only problem in that scene is cutting from putting sunglasses on to real arnold fixing his hair in the mirror. It needed another cut to kyle in between to make it work. Like in alien, abrupt cuts between prop and actor just emphasizes how fake the prop is. After the terminator repairs itself, we don't see all that much or closeup of arnold anymore, and although you can see Arnold's real eyes through the glasses when he leans in for "i'll be back", the rest of the movie does a good job mixing takes of real/prop in a believable way. Jump cuts from prop to real are bad
The dummy head makes me think that the flash is starting to rot a little by how pale it always looks
I love this. The stop motion looked terrible back then and it looks terrible today. This looks a thousand times better. God job! The movie company should reach out to you to make this improvement on the next release of the movie.
This is the kind of changes I would love to see to older movies. This doesn't detract from the original vision. Love this
That is the best damn job I have ever seen...On every re-release or remaster I hoped they would do this...Great job. Can you try to make arnold more realistic in the scene where he removed his eye? It is clearly a puppet. But again , this is brilliant work.
Thank you , but it could be better.
Making Arnold more realistic in this scene is a good idea , maybe it will be done soon :)
@@Storyx1For me, it looks good enough. You are a proof that cgi does not cost millions of dollars for a few scenes. Hope to see you do the arnold scene soon :)
Still waiting on that CGI Arnold scene :)
@@Storyx1 hope we see it :) goodluck with your projects
Its better when he looks like a puppet. its creepier
I think it looks good! If people will complain, it's the nostalgia that's getting the best of them. It looks far more improved and photo real. Keep it up!
only criticism I have is the model is a little off. Maybe the mouth too bright? Render that area darker or with a shadow
I like how you tried to make the T800 look bigger. I always loved this scene, but always felt the endoskeleton looked way too small to hold the frame of a man as big as Arnold.
why would you want to make it bigger? it was already unrealistically too big especially considering Arnold is was 6 foot 2 in his prime, when it is coming up on them when theyre trying to close the door on him that endoskeleton looks 7 foot at least, even when i was 10 years old watching the movie i was like wait a minute
the reason why the terminator is bigger in this video i would say it's to hide the original terminator behind the new on each frames?
@@tonyHern865 i am referring to the endo skeleton in the original movie, the stop motion version of it was enormous compared to the practical version, the practical version was actually just a torso being held by guys off cam, but when it walking up to the door as theyre closing it you can see its around 7 feet tall, but i love the movie its a nit pick i can live with
@@darkestfugue shut up woman.
Even if the 3d model is bigger, it couldn't hide the original.
I hidden it on after effects and then added the CG
That's freaking awsome
Bro, this was incredible. Tremendous job.
The most impressive thing to me here is, he had to go through the trouble of removing the original elements from the background plate to make this work.
That's a crazy amount of work.
James Cameron ought to hire this person and release a full Special Edition, a la George Lucas.
You mean changing a lot of things unnecessarily and only some that actually improve the quality of the movie? No thanks
Actually looks less threatening
The close ups are perfect, but some shots when he is walking feel like he is just floating.
Super travail 👍
Great job! as a veteran in the cgi industry, I approve!!! I grew up seeing this in the theatres back in the 80's. This movie will always be iconic and legendary.
0:50 This is my favorite scene with a design that looks like a dark fate, and I hope that Terminator 2 will be edited as well.
This is excellent
The amount of detail in the lighting is insane, if I hadn't seen the original I would think the new one was the original.
And I'm back again to watch this awesome piece of work.
Very cool, brother, very cool! I didn't even notice the difference right away. Only after you showed it, respect! You are a great master!
the 3d animation looks amazing it looks way better than any of the newer terminator movies,they should hire you for the next terminator if they ever do one because the 3d animation makes it look terrifying
I agree, but I'm affraid the terminator franchise is "terminated" due to this horrible stuff that is "Dark fate" :'(
@@creation.16 i literally ignore that movies existence
@@dynamo4543 Idem for me this "thing" is a shame and is insulting the franchise. I dan't know what James Cameron was thinking about to produce a film like this :(
Oh well, that is your opinion.
2:38 seeing it's head turning and staring at me was scary
The original shot is much better
@@SpecialOrder_937 both are amazing
@@reeseran8491
It’s good for a dude on his own , but to me it looks like the Sarah Connor chronicles
@@SpecialOrder_937
The original Terminator's inability to actually look in the right direction was always distracting to me. The model itself looks improved, and scarier here, but not as good in the scene where it walks out of the fire ( 0:47 ).
@@theonewiththeeyeoftruth884 it does look in their direction multiple times & the puppet was a prototype, they stepped it up big time in T2
Damn that is genuinely impressive. Looks like something they'd add to a future re-release.
Only thing I'd say is the terminator's new pearly white teeth makes it look comedic instead of scary. But I couldn't do what you've just done.
That's an amazing effort! 👍
This looks better because you cannot see that it's a stop motion. This is really nice. Good job!
Ahora si luce amenazante y coherente con los T 800 que salen en las secuelas.
Ojalá le hicieran una remasterizacion oficial a Terminator 1 como está de aquí,ya se le notan sus años
Studios should modernize classic movies exactly like this. Just polishing with modern techniques. This looks great
So I've watched the "making of" extras that came with T2 and Toy Story where they show off expensive workstations that only a movie studio could afford that cost more than my house, and here I am watching something better quality done by one person as a learning exercise. 👌
T'as fait un boulot absolument dingue sur cette scène, ça sublime totalement l'ensemble. Chapeau !
Great job. If this is not your main job, it should be. And you should be getting paid for it. Well done.
thank you ! i hope it will be
Really awesome work mate! A few bits were even better than the original movie - In particular the terminator head and eyes aimed at the camera instead of offscreen when they're going up the stairs is great! Really elevated that scene. Other areas had some criticism from me:
I think you lost a little bit of the "urgent powerful" movements of the terminator that the original had, particularly in the door break scene. Though what you did was extremely close!
The terminator itself would have fit into the scene more if you went for a less chrome material. It needed to be more diffuse and never really pure black dark (due to the chrome reflections).
Otherwise definitely the best remaster I've ever seen! Watching this made we want to watch the movie again. :)
I love how you modified the skull. It looks more terrifying. This shit used to scare the hell out of me when I was a kid, and now at almost 41 years old it still scares the shit out of me.
I've been waiting to see something like this for years. since it was always known that budget limitations meant that the T-800 scenes could not be completed correctly. It was not a limitation of the time. So I wouldn't mind seeing an edited version by James Cameron. I imagine he would look this amazing. This version is even scarier. excellent work!!!
Usually I prefer original stop motion over remade effects, but this is really good.
I’m a long time fan of the franchise, despite recent iterations...and I must say, for a fan made redo on free software, this is great work...
Please take anything I say after this with a grain of salt and recognise it’s meant as constructive feedback on something’s as a fan I noticed which if you were to give this a second go after taking various feedback to make it even better then awesome.
None of what follows is negative disparagement
When emerging from the fire, the model used was clearly different enough that the change was “obvious”...namely that the teeth seemed overly large, almost cartoonishly so in their size and human whiteness as opposed to the original full sized mannequins subdued colours and size...
The animation itself was BRILLIANT and got rid of the jerky ness etc, the main thing I’d suggest there is trying to add a bit more texture focus...again I understand this is homemade fan work, but one key element to good cgi in this age is when there’s switches between cg models and practical props, the cg should try and match the texture details of the physical props, such as reflective surfaces being more reflective, or seeming an almost different colour.
And after seeing another comment on this point, I’d agree that taking the first bit of Kyle and Sarah backing away and up the stairs, since you can here the sound effect of “terminator vision”...taking a few frames of that footage, putting the red filter and some of the tech read outs in...maybe 1-1.5 seconds worth...
The old saying in film with various effects, be they practical or cg is coming back in however many years and thinking “hmm, this did(n’t) age well”
Considering the levels of cg available at the time were barely existent, I’d say that IF this was what was professionally created by the studio on big Hollywood budget at the time...it would be viewed with the same level of “did it hold up” as the stop motion did in the original...it was GREAT in its day, but we as a movie audience have been spoiled rotten the past 20+ years...
So summed up, this is very well done, no one is denying, nor is it worth denying that given some time and a few tweaks, it can’t be denied it could also be better...but it’s still beautiful to see 👍
Wow! You did an amazing job! The animation and the composition looks really amazing! I LOVED it. I'm just a bit sorry about the endoskeleton. It looks quite diffrent from the original t-800. There is one online that is almost the same one. I could give it to you if you want to try it. Anyway, what you did was spectacular.
I'm interested...
I'd also like to see the T-800's POV of Sarah and Reese at the stairwell be red with all the technical data superimposed like the other POV shots, not clear with no data. You hear the sound-effect of the POV, but the POV's visual-effect is not there. T1 was a low-budget movie and I guess Cameron ran out of money to complete that one shot in 1984.
Yes.
And it be all glitching out just very little to reflect the minimal damage the T-800 had sustained. Have a damage meter at like 89% to show how little damage it had taken up until this point and its only real damage being in the leg. It would add to the Terminator's badassness and the hopelessness of the scene.
One of my favorite films of all time. Good work!
Great! My childhood terror in HD! 😂 awesome work!
Original looks a lot better, the frame rate is the biggest thing letting it down.
Higher frame rate does not mean smoother animation. That’s one misconception that a lot of people make when they see animation that’s choppy. You can make any frame rate look fantastic depending on the quality of the animation itself. You have to use ease in ease out to achieve that “smooth” and natural movement. They have used that technique here, but it’s also a lot of guesswork because they simply didn’t have the technology to playback previous frames; resulting in some choppiness.
The original's Skull looks creepier , but the "new" biomechanic is better
The original skull looks creepier because the CGI version highlights the teeth in a very exaggerated and fake looking way.
@@HellNY The teeth, only criticism I have. Too white. The original close-up puppet by Stan Winston looks fucking terrifying though, it has this sadistic grin
While stop motion has its drawbacks it usually shows human flaws in motion slightly better. CGI always looks too perfect. Computers haven't learned to incorporate the imperfections of movement yet. It looks effortless. I would recommend looking at the MIT cheetah robot for movement flaws based in reality. However, I think an actual human robot is not too far away from actually happening. My score: 8/10
To be honest, the original stop motion in this scene was leaving quite a lot to be desired. Lack of technology wasn't an excuse back in '84, because I've seem much more fluent stop motion being done back in the 70s. It was either laziness, or Cameron was running out of money and/or time. I know he did run out of money, which made him film a few scenes illegally, but I'm not sure if that's the same reason which caused the stop motion in this scene to not be so good.
@@CattleCluj Agreed. Money and time were pretty much gone. Love the fact that Arnold had to randomly smash a car window with his fist and then leave before the cops arrived.
@@Star-Explorers Ha ha ha ha ha! Just don't tell me the car was just a random car. It had to be a movie prop which they placed there before shooting the scene.
I'd rather the original. There's just something about the stop motion which adds an eeriness to it. However, as short as that clip at 2:37 is, that really adds a lot. I love that part. Great job there 🙂
I've always wanted to see what the finale would have looked like without the janky stop motion. Looks great, more realistic, so yeah, tge motion is great, Thank you. However, I like the look of tge other Terminator. I prefer its skull-like appearance. Skulls are just more ominous. But really, great work.
The rear projection in the hallway is what breaks the illusion, the T-800 being jerky makes sense since it was in a massive explosion.