I knew about it as the friendly creeper was one of the first videos I watched because a similar thing happened in one of my sisters old pocket edition world when we were kids around the same time the series started
It was also Stampy's idea to get rid of every character that could be traced back to a real person and not an actor. That is why he had people like William Beaver and Polly Raindeer, because a beaver and raindeer would never do something like that.
yea it makes sense, if the person who plays william/polly does something bad, stampy can always get rid of them and have another friend play that character
Yep! And also stampys friends play the characters behind the scenes and we dont know whos stampys friends are in real life. The only 1 we know is his partner but they are married so it would be a 0% chance of them doing something bad
The way he handled the L for Lee situation was one of the most responsible things he and squaishy couldve done It showed how much they truly cared for their audience.
@@danknados Uhh no didn't you watched the video. Lee denied it in their faces that what Squaishy commented. He came back many time until the truth was revealed. I'm very sad because Lee was one of my favorite and I remember when the news first came out I kept denying it pray that it isn't truth until Squaishy confirmed it.
Maybe the reason why he made his helpers as only characters of the lovely world and not his real friends is to avoid anymore drama after the lion maker and l for lee situation. And the people he trusted, like squid and sqaishy, had their own stuff to do. So making consistent helpers and villains was a very smart choice for a roleplay style lets play
Personally, I think Stampy’s Lovely World was at its best when Stampy’s helpers were actual people. The videos after they all left were still enjoyable, but something just felt like it was missing.
I kinda agree although they were always actors, Stampy’s been very open about how scripted everything is, and how people act in that series is nothing like how they act in real life.
@@kangarooMonkeeEven if most of the stuff was scripted, I still think there was a feeling of intimacy when we knew Stampy’s helpers were actual people. No disrespect to William, Polly, and Fizzy, but I never really connected with them the same way I did with Squid and Longbow.
@@Anonymous-xt3yx I kinda get that, but I think that’s mostly an illusion, like if they had the character helpers from the start so you didn’t have anything to compare them to wouldn’t notice.
@@kangarooMonkeeThat’s a very good point. It probably wouldn’t have made a difference if Stampy’s helpers were just characters from the beginning, or if I started watching the series after his old helpers were gone, but the fact is I got into the series when Stampy’s helpers were his real-life friends, so I guess nostalgia affects my opinions.
@@Anonymous-xt3yxI kind of feel the same however it's most likely down to the fact that I grew up past lovely worlds target audience at a similar time to the new helpers' inttoduction
Although there were some not so great people that came from the Lovely World, it still was such a wonderful thing. And if weren’t for the LW series, Stamps and Squashy may not have ever met. So despite the ups and downs, a loving and stable marriage came from it, and I think that’s the best silver lining any cloud can have. Great work on this video.
I genuinely had no clue Stampy and Squaishy were married. Thank you internet stranger for completely making my night (Edit: I had read this comment before I got to that portion of the video lmao)
I remember watching sqaishey and stampy as a kid and noticing the way they talked to each other, I thought "they have to be dating." I'm delighted to hear they got married.
@@Raven64292 what happened with Lee they confirmed the rumors, but they didn’t want to confirm it back then because their audience were kids, but now were all adults
The stigma exists because Minecraft is mostly a children dominated game so your around children a lot and that's not even including Minecraft being the most popular video game of all time so your gonna get bad people
Jinbop or something like that skydoesminecraft friend since childhood got arrested for trying to meet up with a young girl but got arrested before that and think hes in prison till like 2026 besides lionmaker i cant think of anyone else (off top of my head) that has done that
@@lxnarr Did you say upvoted? this isn't Reddit my man and yes he did drive the way into being aware of preds in Minecraft This wasn't a nobody, he was extremely popular in the Minecraft scene
the story of squaishy and stampy is so wholesome. one of his first subscribers, into making a map for him, into becoming a regular helper/collaborator, and then, getting married. it's so sweet, and i adore it
I remember being sad when L for Lee left cause it felt so unexpected but hearing about what he done many years later as an adult is sicking Hearing how Stampy handle the situation almost made me cry, he really cares about his young fans
The way stampy did it was perfect, he made it seem like L for Lee was off to go fight hit the target, my kid brain just accepted it and moved on without even thinking about finding what happened to L for Lee, I only learned of it in 2023 and I'm still thankful stampy did that.
Fr. Back then (i was like 6 or 7) i was like “WHY, this is so stupid its not happening!” As a junior in high school. Listening to the story was sickening.
Seeing all these old names pop up brought back memories from years ago Can't even fathom the fact that Lionmaker spent only 10 months in prison. Bro needs to go back in there for life.
@@SeriaIDesignation_J ColossalIsCrazy literally ripped Lionmaker a new one years ago when he was checking out the p43d0 warnings going off about Lionmaker, and instead of saying he didn't do it Lionmaker defended being a MAP and showed 0 understanding why children can't consent and other hallmarks of the scum of the earth. The proof is, quite literally, there for all to see. "The Depravity of a Minecraft Creator | The Lionmaker Saga" by j aubrey and TheRightOpinion, but if you don't want the breakdown, ColossalIsCrazy has the "Lionmaker Interview" up in full and it's over 7 years old. So yeah, no, that's not a lie.
Honestly, I think this goes to show how responsible and mature Stampy is, while also managing to keep that jolly and silly tone in his videos. I think that’s why I find him so beloved. His personality really does shine unlike any other Minecraft CC. Unlike the content farmers, he has an iconic personality and iconic content that never really did fall off. While his Lovely Minecraft World was and still is iconic, I don’t think I'll ever forget his Terraria playthrough. That, alone, always had me hooked whenever I watched it.
Me too, he was my favorite for a while because his hide and seek videos were so funny in my eyes. I was pretty young though, like 12-13, and when I heard a small bit of the accusations against him I was shocked that someone would accuse such a nice person. Then his channel just disappeared one day, and after failing to find it, I went on to watch other Minecraft RUclipsrs who I actually liked more. Years later I learned the truth and was shocked, and realized that all my fondness for lionmaker might have been a result of his manipulation in videos, endearing himself to us. Looking back now it’s still hard to fathom. The RUclipsrs I went on to watch are all off in different walks of life, yet I still watch their old videos as a source of comfort. Not lionmaker though.
Good thing back when I first watched Minecraft RUclips videos back in 2014, I never watched the Lovely World. Instead, I was mainly into PopularMMOs TNT and Mod Showcase videos, Orepros, ExplodingTNT, and DanTDM. Unfortunately, Pat, the guy behind PopularMMOs, was involved in an incident in Jacksonville that landed him in jail.
@@rainestorm6029 Lmao exactly some of the actual helpers were more evil then the antagonist of stampy's series itself careful guys *there is a mole in our midst's*
One thing I find rather lovely about this is that all the lovely helpers (bar the two who shall not be named) ended up nicely as the shots from their recent posts on social media show them with families or just having lives after RUclips and even a few stayed and made followings of their own which kind of shows how much time has pasted and how stampy has been such a long time influence on peoples lives as the people he played with at the start have all since changed some are no longer friends with him some are and just it kind of just shows that life goes on idk it feels so wholesome compared to how some other series or groups end and even those who are no longer friends with him ended nicely and no drama (bar the two who shall not be named)
I'm still so happy that specifically Squid is doing really well, considering him and Stampy have always been seen as a duo. It sucks that they don't do much together anymore but it's so nice to see that they're both really happy.
I miss the old helpers, every single one of them even if they appeared in a hundred or 2 episodes. They felt more real, more human than William Beaver or Fizzy Elephant who you could tell were paid actors. Theres always something about the in game names that stuck, "L for Lee", "BreadStix", "Liamardo39", you just know there's a actual person behind that mask. But i understand why he phased the actual helpers out, you ultimately cant control people but you can control characters
Never once did I even think that Squaishey had a real name, lmao. I don't know why I never considered that Squaishey wouldn't be legally called Squaishey. Like I knew everyone else had "normal" names but consider my mind blown hearing about Kye!
Here’s a little story, I watched Stampy since he first started back in the day. I have grown up for so many episodes all the way to 400. One day during the lead to 450 we had a big life crisis and lost Internet for a long while so I cried because his series was what got me through my childhood and taught me the meaning of teamwork and friendship… But to come back to it, I have never watched Stampy again since episode 600… And to come back to see what Some of these people have done, makes me regret growing up to know these people by watching their content along Stampy.. I’m just glad that Stampy cared about his audience, put matters first and dealt with them amazingly well. I just wish it could’ve been better for some around him. But to this day even without some of his helpers, I wouldn’t be where I am today. He is the reason why I have friends.
Lmao, I’d watch stamps every time I visited my grandma. I only saw some of the iconic (or most memorable) episodes. I only saw the final conclusion back last year. And damn. It’s fucked to think that even outside all of this, some folks just let us down.
From the stamplongnose wiki, “Hit the Target was originally a real person, but at some point that person stopped playing Minecraft and "Hit the Target" became a character used as the main antagonist of the Stampy's Lovely World series. This article mainly talks about the character.” Knowing Sqaishey had to substitute for lee at times, the same would be assumed for Hit the Target, So either Sqaishey played hit the target in episodes, or one of the other helpers did.
@@H-nt yes that's more than likely the case. In fact a few years ago he accidentally uploaded an uncut video which showed that Squashy is probably at least one of the characters in most episodes.
I believe he stopped playing minecraft and quit the series but allowed Stampy to continue using the character. HTT rarely had a voice role and if he did, it was either played by a bot, Stampy, or Squaishy herself. That being said, it's likely HHT was played by a bot after a while since HTT did not have any voice lines everything he did was conveyed by his actions, not words.
Bit of a correction for Captain Sparkelz, he wasn’t exactly the real guy. This person who joined Stampy’s videos was simply a fan of the then popular real Sparkelz, naming his account after him.
I grew up watching Stampy, so while this was a welcome blast from the past, I was genuinely sad by the end. It felt like watching your heroes reveal that they were actually terrible people, and tricked you into feeling otherwise. I know that's really not what happened ( Stampy is a king for putting up with this btw ) but it still really hurt
Dude this was the first time hearing about what lionmaker did. And I'm honestly shocked, I thought that stampy and him just grew apart, but to hear this. This man had cool.maps and hungergame maps almost at the ready for stampy.
now knowing Lionmaker is Belgian (I am Belgian too) I feel deeply disgusted by him. I saw him join and leave the series, but always found him the weirdest helper ever, feeling that through a screen on my ps vita, is just fracked up. Sadly pedophilia is increasing A LOT in Belgium (general crime across all boards has skyrocketed since 2015). PLEASE NOTE: I am !!!NOT!!! defending ANY pedophile in the following statement, the following statement is meant as a !!warning!! to the future generation and current generation. The most common reason here in Belgium is that Belgian girls do tend to lie about their age because of their looks. In Belgium you have girls saying they're 16 because they look like it, while in reality they're just 12 or 13 year olds. I myself had a girlfriend that said she was 16, while in reality she was 14. At the time I was about to turn 17. I instantly shut down that relationship because it's a too big age difference for me. I'm glad I did break up because she mentally drained me in a bad way
Belgian here, also didn't know he's from our country. And yeah, the lying about age thing is a big issue here, I know multiple people who had sex with someone who looked old enough and claimed to be old enough, who then ended up being like 14.
Crime hasn't gone up as significantly as you think. Media reporting and coverage thereof has -- you merely feel like crime is on the rise. It bequeaths itself to "law and order" policies resulting in retrenchment of civil liberties in the name of security. Be mindful of this.
Fair enough. I am in the UK but I had a bf in the states who said he was 16 and at the time so was I. We only really texted but he eventually told me he was fourteen when we started and turned 15 when I was 17. That made me feel really gross so I stopped talking to him.
The fact of L for Lee and everything that happened with him, is just insane, seeing how much of the series he was a part of... Also what happened with Hit the Target? I mean technically not a helper per say, but still a character of the world?
I think the original guy quit gaming at some point and possibly let Stampy use his account / character, in which one of Stampy's other supporting cast (usually Squaishey apparently) would control that account
I knew about Lee but lionmaker.. that is just disturbing. It’s sad to hear this stuff because I thought that besides Lee they just all left and went on with there own lives. Hopefully those 2 never come back.
What’s funny, is that every time I point this out, everyone says I’m insane and emotionally biased. These people are either predators themselves, or had to cover for one, or are ignorant and fail to see the wickedness in pedophillia.
"Hellooo, this is Stampyy. And welcome to another M i nec raft lets-p lay videooo. And another video inside of Stampyyy's-aa-Lovelyy Worlddd." Such memories
K so i feel like finball may have been dashed over just a teeny bit But, the dude (from what I can tell) still checks his comments About 2 years ago I commented on his last live stream asking if he was alive and all he commented was "barley...." I can only hope that he's happier now and is living a good life
That is something I’m interested in. Does the real HTT know they’re a character now? did they give permission to continue to be included like this during the series? So many questions…
As a child when I first started playing Minecraft when it came to the 360 back in 2012 I grew up on channels like Stampy, DanTDM, and PopularMMOs it hurts my badly to see stuff like this happen seeing some of my favorite characters growing up like Lee turn out to be this disgusting it hurts my heart but I'm glad I had a somewhat good childhood because of channels like Stampy helping me cope with certain bad events that happened in my life
@@AutumnThe_Toaster i grew up watching Dantdm and PopularMMO's too as well LDshadowlady??? SkyDoesMinecraft (oh how the mighty have fallen) Aphmau PrestonPlayz Woofle's the pack basically umm..... Stampy OFC
I really wanna missed the old Minecraft videos with Stampy's Helpers I've been watching for 12 years ago. Stampy is always a good man and we will miss him so much.
L for Leeee 100% played his final character. He signed his book. Keep in mind he was only around 14 at the time of those two pranks he pulled. Younger than both victims
I remember in the last weeks before Lee left, the description mentioned him not being played by the actual Lee for a while. Looked back at some of those videos and that part is gone
@@MoonlarkSpirits L for lee is one of the few cases I can forgive him a tad bit. Teens do all sorts of bad things. And many in the Minecraft community have done wayyyy worse.
Yeah hopefully Lee grew after that. Like I keep saying it’s way way better then the crap that Mini Ladd or Kiwiis pulled did (Inabber and Tehnemi covered both of them)
Lionmaker was an adult when that event happened. Lee was ~16 years old. He still did an awful and heinous act, but I feel like we should cut him some slack in terms of harshness. I hope that he realizes that he hurt a lot of people and caused so much pain but I also hope he is doing better. I hope that everyone who has been hurt by him is also doing better. Mistakes are a lot easier to make when you’re that young.
Back then when the L for Lee problem as well as lion maker was at large, the fact stampy shielded us from that was the best thing back then! I still give my full respect because of that I’m 19 now and looking back I am so glad he did that we were so young Thank you for many years and bringing joy to millions of children around the world again and again With that I salute you Stampy🫡
Lionmaker actually invited me to play with him in a hunger games match. My cousin was there at the time and I got a random invite to join, soo I did. I absolutely demolished all of them and knowing what’s happened since makes it that much better.
" you were all so young " hit me so hard i had to pause the video from my sobbing ,,, but no seriously him only getting 10 months is absolutely insaneeeee to me and genuinely terrifying ????
Crazy thing, I had a school project where the topic was, "your favorite person." I didn't know who to do it on so I chose my favorite RUclipsr at the time, which was Lionmaker. I had no clue the kind of guy he was, but I did find out 2 years later. Can't believe it..
Now that I see this, I realize there were a lot of helpers that I missed considering I belive I started watching around stampy’s 130th episode or something like that back when I was a huge Stampy fan. I need some catching up to do this summer
As a 16 year old i had a breakdown watching this I had watched stamps for years and his videos (esp stampies lovely world) has always put a smile on my face and helped me get through rough times seeing what happened with L for lee really hit me considering he was loved by the community for stampies lovely world but I’m sickened by what he did I just can’t help but wonder why did it have to end and why did they have to do such disgusting things I feel bad for stampy cause he was a close friend to spampy I know A nobody like me shouldn’t says this and probaly won’t get have an impact but I hope y’all all have a good fay
I never grew up with stampy but... THE FACT sqaishy says " you were all so young" gives me a weird feeling, like it's sadness and nostalgia and mixed with a feeling like i have missed and lost something great
Let’s be thankful that stampys lovely world ended with a happy ending It’s sad to see it go but at least stampy didn’t end up like most modern Minecraft youtubers
To be honest I never watched any of these people but they spread Joy throughout the game community to be honest if all of them come back one more time to do one more video together I would watch it except for those people that did the bad things
Not sure if you have seen this, but lee has responded to squaisheys comment basically trying to defend himself while being very aggressive. very strange of him.
The L for Lee stuff really makes me disappointed, he was my (and most likely a lot of peoples) favorite character in Lovely World, at the time I didn't know any of the behind the scene stuff, and years later I was curious out of nostalgia and looked to see what happened to Lee... it broke my heart and really messed with me.
To anyone wondering; Ash Didn't own his channel he was contracted it as part of a group and when he left said group he breached the contract and was removed from the channel which was later assigned to drew, he had a video on it but I believe he was forced to take it down because it was gone days after it was posted probably due to an NDA unknown to Ash, Either way he makes content nowdays at his own rate and whatever he wants to make which is a lot better considering just a few years ago he attempted suicide but one of his discord members managed to get an ambulance to his house before he passed
Knowing what Lee did is even worse now that I know he did that shit not only the same country l’m in, but the same fucking region of the country l live in, pretty terrifying.
@@WolfRoseQUEEN Lol I just noticed this. Yeah, I wish I could link but most links get auto filtered so you’ll just have to google it. Martyn married Stampy’s sister, Netty. They have 2 kids. Super cute.
My Childhood feelings toward Lee makes me want to deny he did anything bad because of all the good memories i had watching him play and build on stampy's world and squid's island vids I mean when i was younger i knew he went to jail but i didn't know but now that i'm older and know everything i feel betrayal a person who i loved so much from a series i loved turned out to be a facade hiding away a disgusting excuse for a human being I can't watch stampys vids with lee in them anymore with joy knowing everything nostalgia will block those things from my memory but it last like 2 secs Its hard knowing watching one of your most popular parts of your childhood fall apart when you descover behind the scenes who they really are
I am completely neutral towards Lee. Do I think that what he did was wrong? Yes. However, he was a teenager at the time, most likely 17. There is hope of redemption for him. Whilst he should hold accountability, I will admit that we should give him another chance. LionMaker, on the other hand, is truly despicable.
i thought it was a complex situation b4 squashey revealed everything in that comment. how some1 acts after the fact says SO MUCH about their character. It was long after the criminal actions. Lying multiple times & ignoring accountability ... i think thats evil.
nah, even to this day he denies everything. i can’t remember exactly what was said, but under that comment sqaishey left he responded to it in quite a nasty way, accusing them of lying. bro it’s not like they’d drop him from the series for no reason 💀 lol what reason do they have to lie
I remember watching like hide and seek Minecraft videos with Lion Maker, Paige the Panda and a couple more RUclipsrs when I was young and I remember people being like “Lion and Paige, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G” I never knew she was underage oh my god
Lionmaker is by far the most heartbreaking to me. I watched his videos way more than stampy’s and knew lots of people who enjoyed his videos as well. I didn’t even know what was happening when it was happening. I want to feel sorry for him but I’m not sure how
I didn't know about any of that, Stampy did an amazing job at shielding us from that. Lee was my favorite character so the news was quite weird to hear but the truth does matter. Thanks for making the video for us.
I used to watch lion maker so much, his videos made me laugh so hard some days when it was hard but after knowing what he did it grosses me out to even think I used to be a big follower and supporter of him
i was so upset when i found about L for Lee. i really enjoyed him in the series and he was one of my favourite people to watch or see him in stampy’s videos.
I was looking for a certain helper who appeared a few times. It was Shoot2kill the person who made the massive cruise ship and toured stampy. Stampy and squid also nick named shoot2kill as daisy the cow
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great vid thanks for the work you did in this
I honestly thought Lee was a good bear, Why would he do this behind the scenes
He was one of my favourite helpers
Do you tell us where they live in there?
Do your research next time l for lee replyed too sqauisys comment and you leave that out of the video and go on too call lee disgusting?
“You were all so young during this time, it didn’t feel right” That hit hard
Facts
actually made me a bit teary eyed
makes me feel kinda happy too.. they cared about us…
Same
“You were all so young” is such an honest thing to say, and honestly, 2015 me (when I was 11) probably needed that protection
i feel this. i watched him from 8-12 and i thank stampy for protecting us.
I was 11 as well and I didn’t even know Lee left until several years later
2004 baby?
@@katskookies_official end of 03?
I’m a 2004 baby and am now 20 but would have also been 11 in 2015, just insane to think that Lee is a convicted pedo
Grew up watching this guy and had no idea CaptainSaprklez was a helper at one point. Crazy
same had no clue
Same here. I'm not surprised about the two knowing each other(Jordan is basically everyone's friend), but I could never guess that he was a helper
I knew about it as the friendly creeper was one of the first videos I watched because a similar thing happened in one of my sisters old pocket edition world when we were kids around the same time the series started
That was indeed surprising
I am speechless about it
It was also Stampy's idea to get rid of every character that could be traced back to a real person and not an actor. That is why he had people like William Beaver and Polly Raindeer, because a beaver and raindeer would never do something like that.
yea it makes sense, if the person who plays william/polly does something bad, stampy can always get rid of them and have another friend play that character
@@SmokeFactoryyup
Yep! And also stampys friends play the characters behind the scenes and we dont know whos stampys friends are in real life. The only 1 we know is his partner but they are married so it would be a 0% chance of them doing something bad
William beaver was once played by MrNightfoxx, as in a mini game where death was involved, you can see the Stampy was killed by him
Oh yeah, there’s also not one specific person playing these characters.
The way he handled the L for Lee situation was one of the most responsible things he and squaishy couldve done It showed how much they truly cared for their audience.
Seriously thinking they're some of the few popular RUclipsrs left that didn't succumb to money corruption
also lee himself left to not tarnish stampy's reputation
@@danknados Uhh no didn't you watched the video. Lee denied it in their faces that what Squaishy commented. He came back many time until the truth was revealed. I'm very sad because Lee was one of my favorite and I remember when the news first came out I kept denying it pray that it isn't truth until Squaishy confirmed it.
@@redblackjacket3786squaishey lied lol
@@AndromedaEditz i doubt it, why tf would they lie lol
Maybe the reason why he made his helpers as only characters of the lovely world and not his real friends is to avoid anymore drama after the lion maker and l for lee situation. And the people he trusted, like squid and sqaishy, had their own stuff to do. So making consistent helpers and villains was a very smart choice for a roleplay style lets play
Personally, I think Stampy’s Lovely World was at its best when Stampy’s helpers were actual people. The videos after they all left were still enjoyable, but something just felt like it was missing.
I kinda agree although they were always actors, Stampy’s been very open about how scripted everything is, and how people act in that series is nothing like how they act in real life.
@@kangarooMonkeeEven if most of the stuff was scripted, I still think there was a feeling of intimacy when we knew Stampy’s helpers were actual people. No disrespect to William, Polly, and Fizzy, but I never really connected with them the same way I did with Squid and Longbow.
@@Anonymous-xt3yx I kinda get that, but I think that’s mostly an illusion, like if they had the character helpers from the start so you didn’t have anything to compare them to wouldn’t notice.
@@kangarooMonkeeThat’s a very good point. It probably wouldn’t have made a difference if Stampy’s helpers were just characters from the beginning, or if I started watching the series after his old helpers were gone, but the fact is I got into the series when Stampy’s helpers were his real-life friends, so I guess nostalgia affects my opinions.
@@Anonymous-xt3yxI kind of feel the same however it's most likely down to the fact that I grew up past lovely worlds target audience at a similar time to the new helpers' inttoduction
Although there were some not so great people that came from the Lovely World, it still was such a wonderful thing. And if weren’t for the LW series, Stamps and Squashy may not have ever met. So despite the ups and downs, a loving and stable marriage came from it, and I think that’s the best silver lining any cloud can have. Great work on this video.
I genuinely had no clue Stampy and Squaishy were married. Thank you internet stranger for completely making my night
(Edit: I had read this comment before I got to that portion of the video lmao)
I remember watching sqaishey and stampy as a kid and noticing the way they talked to each other, I thought "they have to be dating." I'm delighted to hear they got married.
^
YAY :D
im happy that they waited until we grew up to tell us so we could still enjoy what was precious to us and not have it ruined
I think a lot of us knew already
@@OldBenKenobi2318yeah they just confirmed it
Just confirmed what?
@@Raven64292 what happened with Lee they confirmed the rumors, but they didn’t want to confirm it back then because their audience were kids, but now were all adults
@@runisawhere did he say it
3:14
I’m sorry?
CaptainSparklez was a Lovely World helper!?
WHAT?!?!?!?
Dan TDM was supposed to be one but conflict of schedules.
@@AceOfBlackjack FOR REAL?
@@PTUBE101_ Yeah, have you seen how many Hunger Games they played? Wild.
@@PTUBE101_dantdm used to play fizzy elephant i think
@@odzergamingDunno about that one
Lionmaker has truely created a stigma around minecraft youtubers
Sadly, there are many Minecraft RUclipsrs and streamers that do that, it's disgusting
@@varisrevolver4061 yup, but generalizing all minecraft youtubers as that is the thing I was talking about
The stigma exists because Minecraft is mostly a children dominated game so your around children a lot and that's not even including Minecraft being the most popular video game of all time so your gonna get bad people
Jinbop or something like that skydoesminecraft friend since childhood got arrested for trying to meet up with a young girl but got arrested before that and think hes in prison till like 2026 besides lionmaker i cant think of anyone else (off top of my head) that has done that
@@lxnarr Did you say upvoted? this isn't Reddit my man and yes he did drive the way into being aware of preds in Minecraft
This wasn't a nobody, he was extremely popular in the Minecraft scene
the story of squaishy and stampy is so wholesome. one of his first subscribers, into making a map for him, into becoming a regular helper/collaborator, and then, getting married. it's so sweet, and i adore it
i know im so glad they are happy and also didnt do horrific crimes
I was Just Saying that as I got to that part
Literally got that Disney princess ending 😭😭
I remember being sad when L for Lee left cause it felt so unexpected but hearing about what he done many years later as an adult is sicking
Hearing how Stampy handle the situation almost made me cry, he really cares about his young fans
And to think that we all loved Lee and probably made our skins look like his when we played Minecraft 😭
Wasnt L for lee 16 when he did this?
The way stampy did it was perfect, he made it seem like L for Lee was off to go fight hit the target, my kid brain just accepted it and moved on without even thinking about finding what happened to L for Lee, I only learned of it in 2023 and I'm still thankful stampy did that.
So true bro, the fact I was sitting down crying but now I'm praying on his downfall😂
Fr. Back then (i was like 6 or 7) i was like “WHY, this is so stupid its not happening!” As a junior in high school. Listening to the story was sickening.
Seeing all these old names pop up brought back memories from years ago
Can't even fathom the fact that Lionmaker spent only 10 months in prison. Bro needs to go back in there for life.
@@MeIsSmogeeLionmaker Is A Jared From Subway
@@RandomManIncorperated Liar.
@@MeIsSmogee He was a pedo and he asked a 15-year-old girl for NSFW pictures of herself.
@@SeriaIDesignation_J ColossalIsCrazy literally ripped Lionmaker a new one years ago when he was checking out the p43d0 warnings going off about Lionmaker, and instead of saying he didn't do it Lionmaker defended being a MAP and showed 0 understanding why children can't consent and other hallmarks of the scum of the earth.
The proof is, quite literally, there for all to see. "The Depravity of a Minecraft Creator | The Lionmaker Saga" by j aubrey and TheRightOpinion, but if you don't want the breakdown, ColossalIsCrazy has the "Lionmaker Interview" up in full and it's over 7 years old.
So yeah, no, that's not a lie.
@@neoqwerty When you say that, are you defending @Spubly or @RandommanIncorporated?
Honestly, I think this goes to show how responsible and mature Stampy is, while also managing to keep that jolly and silly tone in his videos. I think that’s why I find him so beloved. His personality really does shine unlike any other Minecraft CC. Unlike the content farmers, he has an iconic personality and iconic content that never really did fall off.
While his Lovely Minecraft World was and still is iconic, I don’t think I'll ever forget his Terraria playthrough. That, alone, always had me hooked whenever I watched it.
It really sucks that lion maker turned out to be a horrible person as I fondly remember watching his hide and seek Minecraft videos.
The fact he only served 10 months is disgusting
Fr
Me too, he was my favorite for a while because his hide and seek videos were so funny in my eyes. I was pretty young though, like 12-13, and when I heard a small bit of the accusations against him I was shocked that someone would accuse such a nice person. Then his channel just disappeared one day, and after failing to find it, I went on to watch other Minecraft RUclipsrs who I actually liked more. Years later I learned the truth and was shocked, and realized that all my fondness for lionmaker might have been a result of his manipulation in videos, endearing himself to us. Looking back now it’s still hard to fathom. The RUclipsrs I went on to watch are all off in different walks of life, yet I still watch their old videos as a source of comfort. Not lionmaker though.
I can't believe lee became like that.. It's truly sickening since lee is the only helper I can remember. Childhood destroyed, truly.
Ngl I thought cuz jus started his own world the twin
Good thing back when I first watched Minecraft RUclips videos back in 2014, I never watched the Lovely World. Instead, I was mainly into PopularMMOs TNT and Mod Showcase videos, Orepros, ExplodingTNT, and DanTDM.
Unfortunately, Pat, the guy behind PopularMMOs, was involved in an incident in Jacksonville that landed him in jail.
@@SylveonMujigaeOfficial oooffffff
@@SylveonMujigaeOfficial bruh mmos too? mc youtubers really be addicted to jail
@@RafanFarooquib Frrrr bro, like why is it that mc youtubers do that
how ironic that HitTheTarget was fairly normal
LMAO
hitthetarget is less evil than L for Lee which is just ironic
😂😂
Agreed.
@@rainestorm6029 Lmao exactly some of the actual helpers were more evil then the antagonist of stampy's series itself careful guys *there is a mole in our midst's*
One thing I find rather lovely about this is that all the lovely helpers (bar the two who shall not be named) ended up nicely as the shots from their recent posts on social media show them with families or just having lives after RUclips and even a few stayed and made followings of their own which kind of shows how much time has pasted and how stampy has been such a long time influence on peoples lives as the people he played with at the start have all since changed some are no longer friends with him some are and just it kind of just shows that life goes on idk it feels so wholesome compared to how some other series or groups end and even those who are no longer friends with him ended nicely and no drama (bar the two who shall not be named)
I'm still so happy that specifically Squid is doing really well, considering him and Stampy have always been seen as a duo. It sucks that they don't do much together anymore but it's so nice to see that they're both really happy.
@@mechanicalhoundzJust an fyi, they actually posted a podcast video on TheMagicAnimalClub channel recently
@@kaitohill I completely forgot about that! I still need to listen to it
I miss the old helpers, every single one of them even if they appeared in a hundred or 2 episodes. They felt more real, more human than William Beaver or Fizzy Elephant who you could tell were paid actors. Theres always something about the in game names that stuck, "L for Lee", "BreadStix", "Liamardo39", you just know there's a actual person behind that mask. But i understand why he phased the actual helpers out, you ultimately cant control people but you can control characters
My faves were squid, chocho, longbow
Never once did I even think that Squaishey had a real name, lmao. I don't know why I never considered that Squaishey wouldn't be legally called Squaishey. Like I knew everyone else had "normal" names but consider my mind blown hearing about Kye!
Lmao same
LOL
I don’t think someone would legally name their child Sqaishey😂😂😂😂
I always knew sqaishey's real name to be Bethany, even I was surprised to see Kye as the name. Sqaishey changed her name to Kye sometime back.
@@PTUBE101_Someone got legally named methamphetamine rocks, I think sqaishy is on the table
@@PTUBE101_ TO BE FAIR, there are some wild names out there so I would never put it past some rabid parents to name their child anything...
Trip to the moon is the only episode I remember and seeing it again gave me so much nostalgia
So we stealing pictures now? Smh
@@notsuspiciousrussiandog9786 what?
@@notsuspiciousrussiandog9786 my account is 2 years older, sooo ur the imposter here
you do realise theres probably hundreds of people with your pfp right?💀💀 @@notsuspiciousrussiandog9786
@@commiedog425ok but.. who cares
The lion maker thing was so crazy, I was a child during this era, and back in 2014, I almost met him through the build team I was apart of
Here’s a little story, I watched Stampy since he first started back in the day. I have grown up for so many episodes all the way to 400. One day during the lead to 450 we had a big life crisis and lost Internet for a long while so I cried because his series was what got me through my childhood and taught me the meaning of teamwork and friendship…
But to come back to it, I have never watched Stampy again since episode 600…
And to come back to see what Some of these people have done, makes me regret growing up to know these people by watching their content along Stampy.. I’m just glad that Stampy cared about his audience, put matters first and dealt with them amazingly well.
I just wish it could’ve been better for some around him. But to this day even without some of his helpers, I wouldn’t be where I am today. He is the reason why I have friends.
Lmao, I’d watch stamps every time I visited my grandma. I only saw some of the iconic (or most memorable) episodes. I only saw the final conclusion back last year. And damn. It’s fucked to think that even outside all of this, some folks just let us down.
Hold on you forgot someone important...
Hit The Target was a helper super early on, presumably a real person. What happened to him?
From the stamplongnose wiki, “Hit the Target was originally a real person, but at some point that person stopped playing Minecraft and "Hit the Target" became a character used as the main antagonist of the Stampy's Lovely World series. This article mainly talks about the character.”
Knowing Sqaishey had to substitute for lee at times, the same would be assumed for Hit the Target, So either Sqaishey played hit the target in episodes, or one of the other helpers did.
@@H-nt yes that's more than likely the case. In fact a few years ago he accidentally uploaded an uncut video which showed that Squashy is probably at least one of the characters in most episodes.
She probably did play him it would only make sense cuz😂
I believe he stopped playing minecraft and quit the series but allowed Stampy to continue using the character. HTT rarely had a voice role and if he did, it was either played by a bot, Stampy, or Squaishy herself. That being said, it's likely HHT was played by a bot after a while since HTT did not have any voice lines everything he did was conveyed by his actions, not words.
Bit of a correction for Captain Sparkelz, he wasn’t exactly the real guy. This person who joined Stampy’s videos was simply a fan of the then popular real Sparkelz, naming his account after him.
💀 yeah that is what everyone was thinking
I grew up watching Stampy, so while this was a welcome blast from the past, I was genuinely sad by the end. It felt like watching your heroes reveal that they were actually terrible people, and tricked you into feeling otherwise. I know that's really not what happened ( Stampy is a king for putting up with this btw ) but it still really hurt
Dude this was the first time hearing about what lionmaker did. And I'm honestly shocked, I thought that stampy and him just grew apart, but to hear this. This man had cool.maps and hungergame maps almost at the ready for stampy.
9:50 one of the most underrated Minecraft RUclipsrs of the golden era. His chemistry with Squid and Stampy in there crazy craft series was awesome.
Probably the most detailed video about the helpers, was really curious as to what happened to them
Amy Lee has moved on to be an editor for one of my favorite RUclipsrs she seems to enjoy her job and I’m happy for her
Which youtuber?
Yeah which one?
Which?
evanescence
now knowing Lionmaker is Belgian (I am Belgian too) I feel deeply disgusted by him. I saw him join and leave the series, but always found him the weirdest helper ever, feeling that through a screen on my ps vita, is just fracked up.
Sadly pedophilia is increasing A LOT in Belgium (general crime across all boards has skyrocketed since 2015). PLEASE NOTE: I am !!!NOT!!! defending ANY pedophile in the following statement, the following statement is meant as a !!warning!! to the future generation and current generation.
The most common reason here in Belgium is that Belgian girls do tend to lie about their age because of their looks. In Belgium you have girls saying they're 16 because they look like it, while in reality they're just 12 or 13 year olds. I myself had a girlfriend that said she was 16, while in reality she was 14. At the time I was about to turn 17. I instantly shut down that relationship because it's a too big age difference for me. I'm glad I did break up because she mentally drained me in a bad way
Many girls do that, it is a problem that is WORLDWIDE (Pretending they are older but are not that old)
Belgian here, also didn't know he's from our country. And yeah, the lying about age thing is a big issue here, I know multiple people who had sex with someone who looked old enough and claimed to be old enough, who then ended up being like 14.
@@RGamePlayXtreme for the record: Holland is just as bad in this case
Crime hasn't gone up as significantly as you think. Media reporting and coverage thereof has -- you merely feel like crime is on the rise. It bequeaths itself to "law and order" policies resulting in retrenchment of civil liberties in the name of security. Be mindful of this.
Fair enough. I am in the UK but I had a bf in the states who said he was 16 and at the time so was I. We only really texted but he eventually told me he was fourteen when we started and turned 15 when I was 17. That made me feel really gross so I stopped talking to him.
The fact of L for Lee and everything that happened with him, is just insane, seeing how much of the series he was a part of...
Also what happened with Hit the Target? I mean technically not a helper per say, but still a character of the world?
I think the original guy quit gaming at some point and possibly let Stampy use his account / character, in which one of Stampy's other supporting cast (usually Squaishey apparently) would control that account
Maybe Craig became a mailman for a well-known blue-haired guy... 🤔😅
💎💎💎
L for lee was my favourite in stampys. I was always so excited to watch and I was crying when he left, and now, I’ve learned the truth.
It’s so cool learning the names behind the characters and nicknames
I knew about Lee but lionmaker.. that is just disturbing. It’s sad to hear this stuff because I thought that besides Lee they just all left and went on with there own lives. Hopefully those 2 never come back.
thank you for talking abt people who've i havent thought or seen abt for YEARS, awesome vid :D
Bro lionmakers videos were part of my childhood. I loved his hide n seek videos. It was a definite punch in the gut to find out who he really was.
The most shocking part about this video is that lionmaker only got 10 months in jail, like surely CP and r*pe should be way longer
What’s funny, is that every time I point this out, everyone says I’m insane and emotionally biased. These people are either predators themselves, or had to cover for one, or are ignorant and fail to see the wickedness in pedophillia.
@@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky yikes they need help for sure 10 months is WAYY to generous
"Hellooo, this is Stampyy. And welcome to another M i nec raft lets-p lay videooo. And another video inside of Stampyyy's-aa-Lovelyy Worlddd." Such memories
Choo choo sounds so genuine wow haven't seen such an honest youtuber in a hot damn minute
Dantdm...?
K so i feel like finball may have been dashed over just a teeny bit
But, the dude (from what I can tell) still checks his comments
About 2 years ago I commented on his last live stream asking if he was alive and all he commented was "barley...." I can only hope that he's happier now and is living a good life
When I was a kid I really loved Finball’s videos with his wife and son
Really hope he’s doing well now
Why’d we never talk about the real HitTheTarget? I want to know where the original went.
That is something I’m interested in. Does the real HTT know they’re a character now? did they give permission to continue to be included like this during the series? So many questions…
all i know is they lost interest and there was an agreement ish to continue them as a character in the story
The one you're thinking about was replaced after the original's voice actor got caught having sex with a goat.
@@FreeRobux712 huh???
He has a channel called HauntedPurpose
As a child when I first started playing Minecraft when it came to the 360 back in 2012 I grew up on channels like Stampy, DanTDM, and PopularMMOs it hurts my badly to see stuff like this happen seeing some of my favorite characters growing up like Lee turn out to be this disgusting it hurts my heart but I'm glad I had a somewhat good childhood because of channels like Stampy helping me cope with certain bad events that happened in my life
Pat is still active on tiktok, insta etc.
@@oklahomasoonersfootball I know he was still active here and there
@@AutumnThe_Toaster i grew up watching Dantdm and PopularMMO's too as well LDshadowlady??? SkyDoesMinecraft (oh how the mighty have fallen) Aphmau PrestonPlayz Woofle's the pack basically umm..... Stampy OFC
I really wanna missed the old Minecraft videos with Stampy's Helpers I've been watching for 12 years ago. Stampy is always a good man and we will miss him so much.
L for Leeee 100% played his final character. He signed his book.
Keep in mind he was only around 14 at the time of those two pranks he pulled. Younger than both victims
Young Teens do pull a ton of crap. Why? Well, it's because they are teens.
I remember in the last weeks before Lee left, the description mentioned him not being played by the actual Lee for a while. Looked back at some of those videos and that part is gone
@@ThisChannelIsAbandoned300 I do agree. Teenagers... they/we do stupid things. But we grow and mature eventually (hopefully)
@@MoonlarkSpirits L for lee is one of the few cases I can forgive him a tad bit. Teens do all sorts of bad things. And many in the Minecraft community have done wayyyy worse.
Yeah hopefully Lee grew after that. Like I keep saying it’s way way better then the crap that Mini Ladd or Kiwiis pulled did (Inabber and Tehnemi covered both of them)
Lionmaker was an adult when that event happened. Lee was ~16 years old. He still did an awful and heinous act, but I feel like we should cut him some slack in terms of harshness. I hope that he realizes that he hurt a lot of people and caused so much pain but I also hope he is doing better. I hope that everyone who has been hurt by him is also doing better. Mistakes are a lot easier to make when you’re that young.
Is their confirm sources by officials?
The allegations of L for Lee were never confirmed and were most likely a hoax
At 16 years old, you should know not to stalk, harass, and ejaculate on the things that other people own.
Yeah, atleast Lee had a smaller moral compass and has time and motivation to change
Nahhh no slack it creepy and 16 Ur not a child u know what is right or wrong
Back then when the L for Lee problem as well as lion maker was at large, the fact stampy shielded us from that was the best thing back then! I still give my full respect because of that I’m 19 now and looking back I am so glad he did that we were so young
Thank you for many years and bringing joy to millions of children around the world again and again
With that I salute you Stampy🫡
lionmaker is back THE WORLD IS DOOMED
wait what
Nice can't wait to see how this goes. 🍿
Uh-oh
Lionmaker actually invited me to play with him in a hunger games match. My cousin was there at the time and I got a random invite to join, soo I did. I absolutely demolished all of them and knowing what’s happened since makes it that much better.
" you were all so young " hit me so hard i had to pause the video from my sobbing ,,, but no seriously him only getting 10 months is absolutely insaneeeee to me and genuinely terrifying ????
Definitely hit hard
I'm glad SB737 Was able to keep going. Got his on channel now.
I remember all these! This video is good and it's nice to see that some helpers are still active today
there is always a new documentary on stampy every few years and im still gonna keep watching all of them
It's crazy to think that 5 days ago would've been officially 12 years since Stampy's lovely world started
Crazy thing, I had a school project where the topic was, "your favorite person." I didn't know who to do it on so I chose my favorite RUclipsr at the time, which was Lionmaker. I had no clue the kind of guy he was, but I did find out 2 years later. Can't believe it..
“You were all so young during this time, it didn’t feel right” you know what? Fair enough, fair enough
Now that I see this, I realize there were a lot of helpers that I missed considering I belive I started watching around stampy’s 130th episode or something like that back when I was a huge Stampy fan. I need some catching up to do this summer
As a 16 year old i had a breakdown watching this I had watched stamps for years and his videos (esp stampies lovely world) has always put a smile on my face and helped me get through rough times seeing what happened with L for lee really hit me considering he was loved by the community for stampies lovely world but I’m sickened by what he did I just can’t help but wonder why did it have to end and why did they have to do such disgusting things I feel bad for stampy cause he was a close friend to spampy I know A nobody like me shouldn’t says this and probaly won’t get have an impact but I hope y’all all have a good fay
I never grew up with stampy but... THE FACT sqaishy says " you were all so young" gives me a weird feeling, like it's sadness and nostalgia and mixed with a feeling like i have missed and lost something great
This brings back so many memories, I am actually dumbfounded by how much I didn't know.
The Lee situation is what really sucks because he was pretty much my most favorite helper. It's truly disgusting of what he did.
17:59 but that's Polyurethane- I mean Polly Reindeer on the left! Not Lionmaker!
How do you that mistake
I think LionMaker was Polly-Bot
Bro this vid was beautiful and nostalgic 😂 and the ending was badass😭
For all it is Worth it I am relived that only 2 of the Helpers turn out to be Bad People and not more of Them
Let’s be thankful that stampys lovely world ended with a happy ending
It’s sad to see it go but at least stampy didn’t end up like most modern Minecraft youtubers
True
its amazing that the first minecraft subscriber is his wife
Honestly, thank you for making this answered so many of my childhood wonders 😅
Stampys lovely world has ended now 😭 a legendary series will be remembered
To be honest I never watched any of these people but they spread Joy throughout the game community to be honest if all of them come back one more time to do one more video together I would watch it except for those people that did the bad things
Not sure if you have seen this, but lee has responded to squaisheys comment basically trying to defend himself while being very aggressive. very strange of him.
Can you tell me where exactly? I am intrigued
It’s crazy to think that l for lee could have stayed to the end of stampys lovely world if he hadn’t done what he did
well not exactly even ballistic squid stopped doing video's
with stampy
The L for Lee stuff really makes me disappointed, he was my (and most likely a lot of peoples) favorite character in Lovely World, at the time I didn't know any of the behind the scene stuff, and years later I was curious out of nostalgia and looked to see what happened to Lee... it broke my heart and really messed with me.
To anyone wondering; Ash Didn't own his channel he was contracted it as part of a group and when he left said group he breached the contract and was removed from the channel which was later assigned to drew, he had a video on it but I believe he was forced to take it down because it was gone days after it was posted probably due to an NDA unknown to Ash, Either way he makes content nowdays at his own rate and whatever he wants to make which is a lot better considering just a few years ago he attempted suicide but one of his discord members managed to get an ambulance to his house before he passed
A lot of research and work behind this video good work
Knowing what Lee did is even worse now that I know he did that shit not only the same country l’m in, but the same fucking region of the country l live in, pretty terrifying.
It’s still wild to think that Stampy became Martyn/InTheLittleWood’s brother in law.
HOLD THE PHONE WHAT ????!!!!
@@WolfRoseQUEEN Lol I just noticed this. Yeah, I wish I could link but most links get auto filtered so you’ll just have to google it. Martyn married Stampy’s sister, Netty. They have 2 kids. Super cute.
I use to love to watch loinmaker as a kid, i loved the hide and seek videos. Its such ashame what he has done.
I love the almost identical editing style to SunnyV2 even the music and sound effects are almost identical
I’ve never heard of this Stampy person, but Minecraft creator history is always interesting
No choochoo was there for like 100 episodes more than that
jailed for 10 months is acc insane for what lionmaker did☠️
Welcome to the court system
My Childhood feelings toward Lee makes me want to deny he did anything bad because of all the good memories i had watching him play and build on stampy's world and squid's island vids
I mean when i was younger i knew he went to jail but i didn't know
but now that i'm older and know everything i feel betrayal a person who i loved so much from a series i loved turned out to be a facade hiding away a disgusting excuse for a human being I can't watch stampys vids with lee in them anymore with joy knowing everything
nostalgia will block those things from my memory but it last like 2 secs
Its hard knowing watching one of your most popular parts of your childhood fall apart when you descover behind the scenes who they really are
I’m sorry ? Lionmaker got TEN MONTHS ? For having and sharing CP and grape??? WTH
I am completely neutral towards Lee. Do I think that what he did was wrong? Yes. However, he was a teenager at the time, most likely 17. There is hope of redemption for him. Whilst he should hold accountability, I will admit that we should give him another chance. LionMaker, on the other hand, is truly despicable.
I think he was about 14 or 15 at the time
i thought it was a complex situation b4 squashey revealed everything in that comment. how some1 acts after the fact says SO MUCH about their character. It was long after the criminal actions. Lying multiple times & ignoring accountability ... i think thats evil.
you people are hilariously and honestly terrifyingly ignorant.
nah, even to this day he denies everything. i can’t remember exactly what was said, but under that comment sqaishey left he responded to it in quite a nasty way, accusing them of lying. bro it’s not like they’d drop him from the series for no reason 💀 lol what reason do they have to lie
11:41 HOLY CRAP! LEE WAS LIKE, ONE OF MY FAVOURITE HELPERS WHEN I WAS YOUNG!!!
I remember watching like hide and seek Minecraft videos with Lion Maker, Paige the Panda and a couple more RUclipsrs when I was young and I remember people being like “Lion and Paige, sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G” I never knew she was underage oh my god
Lionmaker is by far the most heartbreaking to me. I watched his videos way more than stampy’s and knew lots of people who enjoyed his videos as well. I didn’t even know what was happening when it was happening. I want to feel sorry for him but I’m not sure how
honestly when i found out what happened with lee i was devastated
I didn't know about any of that, Stampy did an amazing job at shielding us from that. Lee was my favorite character so the news was quite weird to hear but the truth does matter. Thanks for making the video for us.
I used to watch lion maker so much, his videos made me laugh so hard some days when it was hard but after knowing what he did it grosses me out to even think I used to be a big follower and supporter of him
i was so upset when i found about L for Lee. i really enjoyed him in the series and he was one of my favourite people to watch or see him in stampy’s videos.
atleast l4lee had the respect to choose to leave stampy's world to avoid bringing anything onto stampy
stamps and a lot of his helpers shape my childhood so I’m very grateful that stampy made videos and did what he did
I was looking for a certain helper who appeared a few times. It was Shoot2kill the person who made the massive cruise ship and toured stampy.
Stampy and squid also nick named shoot2kill as daisy the cow
Im pretty sure I only watched some of his earlier videos, but.. I still somewhat remember the map fondly.
4:10 BAD NUMBER ALERT