This is another experimental series, if there are topics you'd like to hear me talk about in future ones let me know. I hope then to look less like a Star Wars hologram.
+Accursed Farms I like it. Feels odd having a short Accursed Farms video though, by your usual standards. I tested out those Nvidia 3D glasses with the Avatar game (customer build etc) and I agree, the 3D glasses thing we currently do is a tad...well, staccato. Very clearly defined layers. Not terribly realistic at all. Haven't bothered since, as the GPU hardware the systems require, and the space - oh lord, the space - they need seems over the top.
I had a vivid dream about Ross's game dungeon last night. yeah I know it sounds weird. he was reviewing Roller Coaster Tycoon. even for a vivid dream, it was oddly detailed. anyways in the middle of the review, he started to talk about in game and real life economics, comparing them with growing anger and with his death stare. then he got super upset, started to scream and smashed his tv and threw it out the window. I woke up laughing my ass off in tears.
"Now some may say 'Well Ross, you don't understand, its better to make sure 3D is toned down and doesn't come too far out of the screen, so that a wider audience can appreciate th-' NO! YOU'RE WRONG! YOU'RE NEVER GONNA CONVINCE ME BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT GOOD 3D LOOKS LIKE! I HAVE /SEEN/ THE TRUTH!" Ross, you rule.
Mandrid Hugh it's actually possible to upload 3d videos to youtube. Then, you can select the different types in the quality selection menu. (youtube converts the two streams for you)
The problem with stereoscopic 3D gaming as a potential primary gaming device is that the average core gamer plays 3 hours a day. That's 90+ hours a month _on average_, and that kind of workload is simply not possible for your eyes to handle when they are being forced into an unnatural diverging state by stereoscopy. That's not going to stop people from trying though: prepare for a lot of reports of headaches and vision problems once the Oculus hits and people ignore the safety precautions documentation.
Ghost81 I think that might be correct for most people, but I've definitely played games in stereoscopy for far longer than 3 hours, so I don't think "simply not possible" is necessarily accurate.
glyphbin Yes but has this been occasional or for long stretches of time (months on a daily basis)? I am arguing against 3D as a _primary_ gaming device here, that is a device that is used for the vast majority of a person's gaming activity.
Ghost81 Yeah you are probably right, I have a weird resistance to motion sickness and other similar effects. So I have used stereoscopy as regularly as you describe, but, as frustrating as it is, I have definitely found that people tend to get sick really fast. Though I do hope that this can be lessened as people are more exposed to the technology.
glyphbin Well, here's the problem with that: as I understand it, the reason why people get eyestrains with 3D is that our eyes are actively fighting it, its entire principle being to defocus them from their default converging position and into an unnaturally divergent one which generates the optical illusion. The eyestrain is actually a healthy response from your body, which is trying to correct an anomaly it doesn't "understand". Now, some people feel it more than others, but I would speculate that people getting acclimatized to 3D to such an extent that the optical muscles are no longer fighting it would mean that the muscles have been "bent into submission", so to speak, which can lead to permanent damage, which is why 3D is not suitable for small children, whose optical muscles are not yet developed. It is no surprise that some researchers are treating the popularity of 3D media almost as an epidemic. As a general principle, the path to follow is never to hope humans adapt to the machine, but the other way around: improved devices which work around the issue are the way to go, even though this opens up a whole lot of new issues: the human brain as an organ is, well, really stupid, and often needs help telling what's real from what's not, and individuals who fail to do so are called schizophrenics. If technology gets to a point where we eliminate the psychological buffer helping the brain distinguish between real and not real, the implications could potentially be dire. of course that's up in the air: we will need decades of research in order to record the actual consequences. Damn that's a long post. Sorry about the science babble.
I honestly can't put my finger on why, but I love hearing you talk. I pay close attention up to the point where you affirm something, at which point I blindly agree without giving it much thought. Thought about becoming a politician? OH and do you have a podcast? Highly recommend a podcast.
Some people have soothing voices, like Markiplier. You have a dynamic voice, which instills new life into wholly unremarkable words. Any new series you want to start is fantastic, so long as we hear your voice in it. I must admit, that didn't sound half as creepy in my head.
You know that you *HAVE* to watch movies with the 3D now if you wanna see something in IMAX? It makes me feel like I'm paying 1/3 more than I should for that ticket.
May not have been the case for everyone else, but 2015 was a pretty rad year for me (no, that’s not just nostalgia, I knew it was great as I was living it). This video takes me back to that year immediately. I treasure it and come back here pretty often just to enjoy it. It’s such a free video - no relevance to world events of the time, Ross doesn’t appear nearly as stressed, full of energy and fun, just having a great time. You’d never think a simple rant about 3D would bring anyone so much joy.
Thank you for addressing this, I saw some good 3D movies back in the day, stuff looked like it was literally coming out of the screen, I haven't had that same experience since I was a child.
Man I love the way Ross talks. I could listen to him giving me a lecture about the most boring thing I can think of and not get tired, bored or fall asleep at all. He sounds so engaged with every word and opinion he puts out, sometimes I even feel kinda bad when I'm not making eye contact with his image on the video lol Keep up with the cool stuff, Ross. Looking forward to more videos
Gravity was the one and only movie where 3D added anything. The whole movie was made from the ground up for being all about immersion in a movie where the focus was on relative position in space and being along for a rollercoster ride.
I read the title as "Ross Pants" thrice. I saw the Accursed Farms post, the youtube title, and I even did a second take on the title and thought "Yes, this definitely says Ross Pants." What's wrong with my brain.
I long for another Ross Rants video. You got me into stereo 3D as of late, but I've had to learn the hard way that not only is it dead, but it's impossible to run on modern systems unless you have analog glasses and a program willing to display that fade effect to make the basics possible. I have an Elsa Revelator and considered NVidia's 3D Vision 2, but even NVidia's glasses would need a VM and a way to spoof a compatible board if I ever ran it. And I seeked out Stereo 3D because VR isn't getting cheaper, but it feels as if the entire industry (excluding Windows of all companies) is conspiring to scrub Stereo 3D out completely. Help me Ross. I want to go to other worlds like you.
I got use an Oculus rift from my University because my housemate was designing a game for it. It's honestly one of the coolest things I've done. The game was only 8 bit, and it was a very basic platformer. That said, moving around in actual 3D and being fully immersed in the game was an experience unlike anything else I've done. The closest thing I can compare it to is a lucid dream. You'd think real life, but there's still something a bit off about it. My point is that 3D gaming is as cool as it sounds, and the Rift and so on are actually worth being excited for. You know, like when we could get excited by new prospects in gaming, rather than just more Broshooter and Madden.
Watching this in 2021.. almost prophetic. We now know that VR can be great. As soon as the technology catches up and becomes more affordable, I can´t imagine playing anything else. Oh, I still do. I own a old rift and can´t wait for some 4k wide fov glasses to become affordable. Most people haven´t really hit on the real magic of VR... SIZE. I played a lot of Fallout VR and Skyrim etc. but I only got it when I got Kingdom Come Deliverance working... walking into that castle town felt like walking into a real town, simply because everything was the right SIZE compared to me. Sure, Fallout etc. have that too, but the Graphics are just too stylized to get the point across. KC:D took me over the edge. Those towns look real enough in flat, as do the forests. But wait till you see them at the right size!! Granted, It took a while and fiddling with Vortex and it ran like hell on my old 1060.. but I recently tried it on my new 3070 and man... if I had a headset with no screen door effect and wide view and that game was optimized for VR? .... you would find my starved, emaciated body a few weeks later, I guess. I wouldn´t want to leave. :D
I just tried this with a screenshot of a game with green/magenta glasses, and the effect is better than any so-called "3D movie" I've seen. I sincerely hope someone gets around to bringing this back.
See, I don't entirely agree here. When movies add 3D effects just so they can fling a tennisball at the screen while loudly screaming 'LOOK ASSHOLES WE PUT THREE DEE IN THE MOVIE YOU SEE THE TENNISBALL LOOK AT IT IT'S SO FUCKING THREE DEE ARE YOU IMPRESSED YET", I find that obnoxious and pointless. I rather prefer the immersive effects, that enhance the movies you're watching but don't make you stop and go WHOOAAA THREEE DEEEEE every time. Avatar still resorted to a few obnoxious moments, but it wasn't as bad as most of the other movies that implemented 3D to jump on the bandwagon that flies out of the screen and into your face. That said, I faintly remember liking the 3D effects in Ender's Game. They were there, and they added to the movie when they were used, and, if memory serves (it rarely does) they only did the tennisball thing once and didn't exaggerate too much with it. Of course, if it's true that 3D effects are attenuated for the larger audience, that's dumb. They really should leave the _third dimension_ into their 3D. I do remember thinking about how little stuff popped out that should have in Avatar. Don't think anyone would disagree with that, apart from fundamentalists who think making visually realistic movies is playing god. Fuck those guys, they can stay with their cave paintings.
Wow the video is still unlisted I feel special. ^-^ Edit AKA an actual comment: Great video! I hope to see more "Ross Rants" in the future cause I found this video really entertaining and I actually learnt something :o
As someone who has tried the Oculus(an older model) I can say that it definitely immerses you like nothing else. I was standing in a crowded, loud, show floor of a convention. Slipped on some headphones and the Oculus and I was transported in 30 seconds. It really was crazy.
Basically there are 2 ways of making a 3D movie, using a super expensive 3D camera when filming or doing it later with special effects. The latter is cheaper but way worse.
3D post-conversions can look good too, it's just that Hollywood doesn't care. A good movie that demonstrates this is the IMAX documentary, Hubble 3D, from 2011. Only about half was shot with real 15 perf 70mm IMAX film cameras, the rest of the live action (interior stuff in the ISS) was shot with camcorders and 3D converted in post. You can't really tell the difference, which I'd chalk up to the movie being written, directed, and edited by IMAX's own Toni Myers, who would have definitely wanted the 3D converted stuff to match up as close as possible to the scenes shot on film. Hollywood just doesn't care about good 3D. Hell, even IMAX doesn't really care about making good 3D documentaries anymore, which I guess makes sense with Toni Myers passing away a few year ago.
@@EvanBlax I watched IMAX space station 3D recently and the 3D in that was amazing. There were shots where they were installing pieces of the international space station and just behind it was the Earth and there was one shot where you could visibly see clouds above the water and it was amazing to look at. When it comes to actual movies I personally really enjoy the 3D version of Monsters Inc.
There's an effect in 3D that I call "it's coming right at you!", where some object protrudes extravagantly from the projected plane, that I dislike immensely. It seems, however, that every movie presented in 3D has at least one of them (I think it was a spear or an arrow in Avatar). The flip side of this was the Conan movie that came out in the last few years, where the really close stuff was few and far between, but the sweeping shots of open plains with mountains in the background looked AMAZING. Really deep.
I'm 100% with you on the entire "you don't know what you talking about until you have seen it" I thought VR would be monetarily cool until I tried the Oculus rift. The thing blew my mind away so much that like someone with a crack addiction I just couldn't get enough of VR and was disappointed at everything else. Photo-realistic graphics are great and all but they will never make my mind blow like VR.
Fave part 4:00 - 4:05, 8:30 I also have the felling (vibe) that some of the games/movies that you're into are more old school because you started playing games before I did Accursed Farms. Like for example I really haven't been enjoying games (New games) as much since Skyrims release! I bought the Witch 3 and got to lvl 2... waste of money right now. But yeah I can see you're point about 3D sucking right now, Before they wanted to try it out and see what it would look like but now it's more practical and they make sure that people don't have heart attacks whilst watching these movies. I apologist for any grammar mistakes.
Jono Zorn I was just showing games I had actually played in real 3D. You might want to check out my "most anticipated games" video, there's an absolute ton of games coming out these days, I literally can't keep up with all the ones I want to play. Just don't expect them to be the same ones with millions of marketing budget behind them.
It has been a wile since i have last watch that video and I didn't think about it when i wrote this! next time ill put more resource Material in next comment.
Spy kids 3d was pretty awesome. I watched it as a kid and it designed from the start to be 3D. They have portions of the movie where they tell you to put your glasses on so that it isn't blurry the whole time.
I watched Kong Skull Island with these grey glasses as opposed to the red & blue and they are amazing! It's feels like stuff is achually occasionally entering the theater and flying over the people in front.
The best 3D movie I ever saw was the Titanic 3D remaster. It was amazing. It had depth. Those shots in the opening when it first goes underwater looked incredible.
Have you tried the Nintendo 3DS? I was skeptical of it but seeing Ocarina of Time in full 3D blew my mind. I'm not even a Zelda fan and I was amazed. Even the original version of Cave Story with 2D pixel art looks better with the added depth.
Williamz I heard this when the movie first came out and was tempted to see it. But modern 3D always gives me a massive headache and supposedly there wasn't much to it aside from the 3D, so I gave it a pass.
I will say one thing. I've used these fairly nice 3-D glasses at the Liberty Science Center for one of their movies once. The movie was far from the best for 3-D, but the glasses were like half-decent sunglasses and even flat things actually popped a bit, despite that not being the big focus.
Ross... I'm a game dev and studied physics for a damn long time... I have some big points to mention. *1.* I have an Oculus Rift DK2 for development, and when done right, you fear how good it does it... and you'll cry tears of joy at how insanely exhilarating something like Mario Kart can get in pure VR 3D... Yes, Mario Kart is deadly on the Motion Sickness front though! :P *2.* Everything you pointed out on the "Good 3D, old movie" was small on screen, that gives it the ability to come out all the way due to the fact that it can be completely within the screen from each eye from your POV... This is why you either watch a movie in 3DIMAX, or not in 3D at all... Try watching Pirates of the Caribbean, when the sword gets stabbed through the door, it makes you jump because the depth can go all the way because it's super thin. *3.* The majority of what you said about modern day stuff I agree with... but the technology that all the insane amounts of money went into are actually worthy bits of kit, it's just that the production side of things is complete bullshit these days... I watched the new Star Wars in Stereoscopic 3D in AMC the other day, the 3D wasn't too bad, but I watched the most part without the 3D glasses on because the screen was sooo dim, even without the glasses out door scenes set in a DESERT looked like a gloomy horror movie... Wearing the glasses I actually could NOT see what was going on... it was THAT BAD!!!! Comparing that to watching movies on my Oculus Rift on a Giant Screen in a virtual environment.... I felt insulted... Plus there nachos tasted like overdated Jalapenos dipped with salty water for a salsa dip. (That is a serious opinion with zero exaggeration)
The best 3D I saw was actually in the Jurassic Park re-release. When the T-Rex ate the gallimimus, the nearness and the blurriness of the log made me feel like I was hiding with Dr Grant and the kids. When Ellie said "Mr Hammond, I think we're back in business" I thought "Yeah, yeah, then the velociraptor pops out" but it popped out inches from my face and I nearly jumped out of my chair. So yeah, I think a lot of it's about narative motivation as well.
I remember when they did 3D week on ABC back in May 1997. It was great and we wore our 3D glasses for the TV show on ABC Primetime that week. In other news my family saw Spy Kids 3D at the Northfield Drive-In Outdoor Theater in Northfield, MA back in August 2003 while it was playing in theaters everywhere.
I once went on a field trip in my old school where we went to some theater or university or something and they had a 3D movie set up for us kiddies. Basically, I saw real 3D that day, and it was amazing.
Well, i've been all about VR for the last couple of year ( as a Game dev) , and trust me, it's the first time you'll see a game in real-natural 3d. You're right to be excited, it's a game changer.
Aw, would have liked to hear his thoughts on the 3DS. Samus Returns has possibly one of the deepest, if not best, 3D utilization (even if it doesn't affect the gameplay in the slightest) on the system. But, I suppose that's not quite up Ross's alley
Oh! Now I understand why I never saw 3D in those pretending 3D films. It is because I've been spoiled by the awesome 3D effects of real 3D cinemas in amusement parks. Those I can actually see!
I played some 3D games that actually used the red/blue anaglyph glasses, instead of some gimmicky headset, and it was amazing. Nanosaur 2, for example, was a flight game, and the 3D depth actually made it easier because you could navigate better without crashing into things. Also shooting stuff was easier and way more fun.
Long time fan. Though I am a little bit disappointed you didn't write "Oculus Ross" on your paper version. Premise for next rant: OSTs or game-to-film/film-to-game/etc merch and adaptions.
The only time I've seen stereoscopic 3D in all of its glory was when I visited a planetarium as a kid and watched a presentation about the solar system. That was like getting high through my eyes. Sure, it made me dizzy as hell afterwards, but it was worth it.
Great video Ross! I do NOT get motion sickness. Well, I didn't until I tried out a flying game on the oculus. I banked 90 degrees and almost threw up on the camera. Biggest other issue I had was the pixels were very noticeable on the screen because it's so close to your eyes. Otherwise, had a great time.
I haven't been impressed with any kind of 3D in years, outside of the 3D movie I experienced in a Science Center 20 years ago. I had the opportunity to try the Oculus Rift at a Comic Con this year, and I nearly forgot that I was sitting in a convention center with thousands of people around, it was an unbelievably realistic and immersive experience and I felt like I was actually in the game's world.
1) You look like Zeke in Zombies Ate my Neighbors 2) As a person who can't see sources of binocular 3D, man it sucks I'll never get to enjoy it done right. 3) Continuing thanks for making videos, in a time where it seems like every subscribed channel I have is dropping in quality for lack of new ideas or increasing mass appeal, you seem to keep doing knock-outs. I appreciate reliable quality.
Very cool video Ross. I remember a year or so ago, my local Best Buy had one of the first 3D TV's and had the 3D glasses on display so you could try them out. I personally didn't feel amazed by the 3D, if I'm not mistaken they had a racing game trailer playing to demonstrate the 3D.
Hey Ross, I've worn an occulus one for a school project and I will say it was fairly impressive. I personally got a headache after half an hour but I attribute that to the low resolution of the student made games I played. It isn't real 3d like you like thoigh. Stuff doesn't pop out at you, but that's because everything is always popped out at you. The screen is 2 inches from your eyes and you are totally immersed. I hope you enjoy it upon release.
I got to try an oculus rift, and it was incredible. I played this visual simulation, and it put me in a variety of environments, from dense forests to claustrophobic rooms, and car crash happened right in front of me, and finally I fell off of a building. It all felt so real, I actually had to close my eyes when I started falling. It was really the most immersive experience of my life.
The only good experiences I've had with 3D both come from elementary school years. When I was maybe like 9 or 10 I used to like to see IMAX documentaries downtown, and I was able to convince my teacher to get us to go on a field-trip to the IMAX theatre to see one of the new, 3D movies on the space race. That shit rocked. The huge scream, powerful surround sound speakers and fantastic 3D made it a moment to remember. I can still vividly recall smoke from the rocket blurring my vision as it came out of the screen and flinching in one scene because an orange came hurdling right at me. No movie has topped those effects, in terms of 3D being worth it. The other experience was in the arcade near my house where they had one of those games where you put on a gun and a helmet and you're still standing. The graphics weren't great, but the 3D ruled. Can't find the game now to save my life. Wish I could. It was essentially a DOOM clone with some low resolution models and 3D effects. Played the hell out of that, Raiden, PacMan co-op with my dad and Street Fighter 2.
Tron Legacy was SO disappointing in 3D. That franchise? That universe? That was MADE for 3D! I mean come on! Light cycles? Disc-fights? Those things should have been zooming out of the screen! It should have been INCREDIBLE! Nothing.
This was great! Especially that ending. I've yet to be properly impressed by virtual reality 3D and I can't say I'm completely sold on putting a device on my face like that. I'd be up for Nintendo's New 3DS method that does the head tracking but on a larger, more detailed screen size. That would be cool for me, I don't want to wear something on my head like that, but maybe if I try the rift at some point and like it, I could see me using it for some games probably. I dunno, the 3DS gives me headaches if I play in 3D for too long, but I think even on the XL the screen is too small for the effect to make much of a difference.
My friend bought a DK2 and we play it all the time. We make sure everybody who steps into his house tries it at least once, and I have seen 15-20 first reactions from people who play video games everyday to people who never touch them. Everybody is blown is away the first time, guaranteed. I'll pay for shipping both ways if you want to borrow it Ross!
I recommend, if you've never seen it, Dredd 3D. That movie had incredible 3D effects, I would say probably the best out of any movie released in the last 20 years. I don't know if you can actually get the 3D version on DVD or Blu-Ray, but if you can I recommend giving it a look.
The first "3d" movie I ever saw was Avatar. Now that you mentioned it, I remember the 3d not really being 3d but just a 2d picture of say those floating islands in front an 2d background. Having nothing to compare it to back then I thought it was the pinnacle of cinematographic achievement.
I tried the 1st version of Oculus rift (the blocky, ugly, low res development kit) about a year ago on a "geek" roadshow (they had google glass, some funny scientific stuff and "geeky" stuff like that) and I tried this swingset/ catapult demo, where you would sit in a big metal swingset they have on funfairs and theme parks that spins around higher and higher, eventually you slip from your seat and you get catapulted into the air, you fly over the city and you eventually crash into the ground. The whole thing was low res, and my eyes were unable to focus at anything specific, which was VERY awkward (it was even worse because I wear dioptric glasses), but my god, it was amazing and scary experience at the same time. They even had a surround headset to go with it, and the atmosphere of the whole setup reminded me of those "in your face" old 3d movies so much and it was awesome. So yeah, when they tweak it and make it so that your brain doesn't hurt after 2 minutes of usage, I think it has potential.
I've tried the DK1 & DK2 Rift before, and I plan on trying CV1 at PAX this year. So far it's everything you want it to be. Taking one off after a game is almost like waking up from a dream. It's NUTS.
As someone who tried the oculus rift and other VR headsets the biggest issue was the resolution. I felt like I pressed my face up against my old 90s television. Though they say the resolution will be increasing in the next models I will take a new high res and frame rate monitor for gaming over VR. Though the head tracking is impressive it does not give you a feeling of 3D because the images are still flat.
I had a lazy eye as a child and had to have several eye surgeries in order to fix it. To this day it still drifts, especially if I'm tired. As a consequence, I never developed "stereovision", which is what makes those 3D puzzles and 3D movie effects work.
the good thing about all these VR headsets is that this 3D works like real life 3D thanks to the fact that there are actually 2 screens in most of these things your eyes actually see 2 different images instead of 3D glasses bullshit where you just have glasses with 2 different lenses and as soon as you tilt your head or look at the screen from a funny angle the 3d falls apart
One of the only movie's I've seen in 3d in the current way is Coraline, and that had a 3D effect I had not seen tried before in any of the red and blue ones(Which I all didn't like how they looked and the glasses were awkward over my real glasses). Coraline was good about the things actually coming off the screen and such, but the effect I'm talking about is her entering her room in the other world. The paper cranes fly into the scene from OFF of the screen. They don't come out, they go in. And that is my favorite use of 3D ever.
I agree on the "3D should be super intense" part. I've only seen one 3D movie-okay, I lie, but one I remember. I don't remember why I was watching it or when, but it was something like nat geo that was in an imax 3d theater-it was a curved screen before curved tvs were a thing. The seats were up high, in groups, and away from the screen. When it started, I wasn't too impressed. Then there was this underwater shot where there were fish swimming. THAT was amazing. I actually had to take my glasses off for a few seconds because of how much depth there was-it felt REAL.
This is another experimental series, if there are topics you'd like to hear me talk about in future ones let me know. I hope then to look less like a Star Wars hologram.
Accursed Farms If you use adobe premiere to edit try the Ultra key tool, it should get rid of that green.
Accursed Farms Rant about ranting.
Accursed Farms You never talked about the Nintendo 3DS? How come?
swedishplayer97 The screen is so small it just seems gimmicky to me. For me the whole point is that "other world" experience.
+Accursed Farms I like it. Feels odd having a short Accursed Farms video though, by your usual standards.
I tested out those Nvidia 3D glasses with the Avatar game (customer build etc) and I agree, the 3D glasses thing we currently do is a tad...well, staccato. Very clearly defined layers. Not terribly realistic at all. Haven't bothered since, as the GPU hardware the systems require, and the space - oh lord, the space - they need seems over the top.
"If you lost some eye in a fight... you can go back to fighting"
Ross rants are back and better than ever!
Matt Pelzek Well, Ross rant-ing really. This just elevates it.
Matt Pelzek Agreed. After Watching Freeman's Mind for a few years, it's nice to hear Ross screaming about something again.
I had a vivid dream about Ross's game dungeon last night. yeah I know it sounds weird. he was reviewing Roller Coaster Tycoon. even for a vivid dream, it was oddly detailed. anyways in the middle of the review, he started to talk about in game and real life economics, comparing them with growing anger and with his death stare. then he got super upset, started to scream and smashed his tv and threw it out the window. I woke up laughing my ass off in tears.
10/10 would dream again.
I hope Ross makes an episode were he actually does that due to this comment.
man, I'd love to see that! :)
This comes close to a Ross's Game Dungeon creepypasta.
Wait, you?! What are you doing here?!
"NO, YOU'RE WRONG"
- Ross Scott, 2015
#RossScottforpresident
Doesn't matter when you read this comment
"Now some may say 'Well Ross, you don't understand, its better to make sure 3D is toned down and doesn't come too far out of the screen, so that a wider audience can appreciate th-' NO! YOU'RE WRONG! YOU'RE NEVER GONNA CONVINCE ME BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT GOOD 3D LOOKS LIKE! I HAVE /SEEN/ THE TRUTH!"
Ross, you rule.
Topic I'd love to hear your thoughts on: what horror games do right and what they do wrong.
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I think the best example is petscop
I wonder what you've been up to lately
@@Shushkin Work, running a business, life, house, stuff, things.
@@IRAMightyPirate Awesome! Good luck, bro!
This tells me that we're gonna get the movie he's working on in *true* 3D
Mandrid Hugh I HAVE to see it in 3d!
ImploreYouto Reconsider but first!..... He HAS. TO MAKE. THE MOVIE.
Mandrid Hugh it's actually possible to upload 3d videos to youtube. Then, you can select the different types in the quality selection menu. (youtube converts the two streams for you)
***** And then... HE HAS. TO MAKE. THE MOVIE. IN 3D.
Mandrid Hugh I believe we call that sort of thing a "play".
The problem with stereoscopic 3D gaming as a potential primary gaming device is that the average core gamer plays 3 hours a day. That's 90+ hours a month _on average_, and that kind of workload is simply not possible for your eyes to handle when they are being forced into an unnatural diverging state by stereoscopy.
That's not going to stop people from trying though: prepare for a lot of reports of headaches and vision problems once the Oculus hits and people ignore the safety precautions documentation.
Ghost81 I think that might be correct for most people, but I've definitely played games in stereoscopy for far longer than 3 hours, so I don't think "simply not possible" is necessarily accurate.
glyphbin Yes but has this been occasional or for long stretches of time (months on a daily basis)? I am arguing against 3D as a _primary_ gaming device here, that is a device that is used for the vast majority of a person's gaming activity.
Ghost81 Yeah you are probably right, I have a weird resistance to motion sickness and other similar effects. So I have used stereoscopy as regularly as you describe, but, as frustrating as it is, I have definitely found that people tend to get sick really fast. Though I do hope that this can be lessened as people are more exposed to the technology.
glyphbin Well, here's the problem with that: as I understand it, the reason why people get eyestrains with 3D is that our eyes are actively fighting it, its entire principle being to defocus them from their default converging position and into an unnaturally divergent one which generates the optical illusion. The eyestrain is actually a healthy response from your body, which is trying to correct an anomaly it doesn't "understand".
Now, some people feel it more than others, but I would speculate that people getting acclimatized to 3D to such an extent that the optical muscles are no longer fighting it would mean that the muscles have been "bent into submission", so to speak, which can lead to permanent damage, which is why 3D is not suitable for small children, whose optical muscles are not yet developed. It is no surprise that some researchers are treating the popularity of 3D media almost as an epidemic.
As a general principle, the path to follow is never to hope humans adapt to the machine, but the other way around: improved devices which work around the issue are the way to go, even though this opens up a whole lot of new issues: the human brain as an organ is, well, really stupid, and often needs help telling what's real from what's not, and individuals who fail to do so are called schizophrenics. If technology gets to a point where we eliminate the psychological buffer helping the brain distinguish between real and not real, the implications could potentially be dire. of course that's up in the air: we will need decades of research in order to record the actual consequences.
Damn that's a long post. Sorry about the science babble.
Ghost81 Yeah damn, it could be a real dilemma.
Ross I love everything that you do, I want more content!
Netherblood Totally agree with this guy
A gigity gigty
Yes! Please Ross! We can't wait months on end! Your content is just too damn great!
wildsonny1 giggity goo
"PRESS JUMP TO JUMP"
Thanks, game! What would I do without you?
FatalKitsune Yeah, have to love those instructions.
I honestly can't put my finger on why, but I love hearing you talk. I pay close attention up to the point where you affirm something, at which point I blindly agree without giving it much thought. Thought about becoming a politician?
OH
and do you have a podcast? Highly recommend a podcast.
Good news, he started doing three hour streams.
How was 4 years ago?
Ross looks like a superhero with those glasses.
Or maybe supervillain....
swedishplayer97
An anti hero... XD
super anti hero :D super cool!
Some people have soothing voices, like Markiplier. You have a dynamic voice, which instills new life into wholly unremarkable words. Any new series you want to start is fantastic, so long as we hear your voice in it.
I must admit, that didn't sound half as creepy in my head.
You know that you *HAVE* to watch movies with the 3D now if you wanna see something in IMAX? It makes me feel like I'm paying 1/3 more than I should for that ticket.
I've played Half-Life 2 on Oculus Rift. It was an amazing experience in which I've never been able to capture since. I have hope for the future of VR.
May not have been the case for everyone else, but 2015 was a pretty rad year for me (no, that’s not just nostalgia, I knew it was great as I was living it). This video takes me back to that year immediately. I treasure it and come back here pretty often just to enjoy it. It’s such a free video - no relevance to world events of the time, Ross doesn’t appear nearly as stressed, full of energy and fun, just having a great time. You’d never think a simple rant about 3D would bring anyone so much joy.
A great reason why I love Ross's videos. Timeless and endlessly rewatchable.
Thank you for addressing this, I saw some good 3D movies back in the day, stuff looked like it was literally coming out of the screen, I haven't had that same experience since I was a child.
Man I love the way Ross talks. I could listen to him giving me a lecture about the most boring thing I can think of and not get tired, bored or fall asleep at all. He sounds so engaged with every word and opinion he puts out, sometimes I even feel kinda bad when I'm not making eye contact with his image on the video lol
Keep up with the cool stuff, Ross. Looking forward to more videos
Modern 3-D movies are pretty gimmicky. Just seems to be a way to get extra money from people.
Most 3-D movies these days aren't even filmed in 3-D. They're filmed in 2-D and are then converted to 3-D for an extra buck.
+Xsore finally people who agree with me!
It's weird isn't it? 3-D movies that are filmed in 2-D? I am asking stupid questions, am I?
When i Saw Rogue one In 3D i wanted to kill my self it was that bad.
Gravity was the one and only movie where 3D added anything. The whole movie was made from the ground up for being all about immersion in a movie where the focus was on relative position in space and being along for a rollercoster ride.
I read the title as "Ross Pants" thrice. I saw the Accursed Farms post, the youtube title, and I even did a second take on the title and thought "Yes, this definitely says Ross Pants."
What's wrong with my brain.
I long for another Ross Rants video.
You got me into stereo 3D as of late, but I've had to learn the hard way that not only is it dead, but it's impossible to run on modern systems unless you have analog glasses and a program willing to display that fade effect to make the basics possible. I have an Elsa Revelator and considered NVidia's 3D Vision 2, but even NVidia's glasses would need a VM and a way to spoof a compatible board if I ever ran it.
And I seeked out Stereo 3D because VR isn't getting cheaper, but it feels as if the entire industry (excluding Windows of all companies) is conspiring to scrub Stereo 3D out completely. Help me Ross. I want to go to other worlds like you.
He should just wear those glasses in every video from now on
I got use an Oculus rift from my University because my housemate was designing a game for it. It's honestly one of the coolest things I've done. The game was only 8 bit, and it was a very basic platformer. That said, moving around in actual 3D and being fully immersed in the game was an experience unlike anything else I've done. The closest thing I can compare it to is a lucid dream. You'd think real life, but there's still something a bit off about it.
My point is that 3D gaming is as cool as it sounds, and the Rift and so on are actually worth being excited for. You know, like when we could get excited by new prospects in gaming, rather than just more Broshooter and Madden.
Watching this in 2021.. almost prophetic. We now know that VR can be great. As soon as the technology catches up and becomes more affordable, I can´t imagine playing anything else. Oh, I still do. I own a old rift and can´t wait for some 4k wide fov glasses to become affordable.
Most people haven´t really hit on the real magic of VR... SIZE. I played a lot of Fallout VR and Skyrim etc. but I only got it when I got Kingdom Come Deliverance working... walking into that castle town felt like walking into a real town, simply because everything was the right SIZE compared to me. Sure, Fallout etc. have that too, but the Graphics are just too stylized to get the point across. KC:D took me over the edge. Those towns look real enough in flat, as do the forests. But wait till you see them at the right size!! Granted, It took a while and fiddling with Vortex and it ran like hell on my old 1060.. but I recently tried it on my new 3070 and man... if I had a headset with no screen door effect and wide view and that game was optimized for VR?
.... you would find my starved, emaciated body a few weeks later, I guess. I wouldn´t want to leave. :D
I just tried this with a screenshot of a game with green/magenta glasses, and the effect is better than any so-called "3D movie" I've seen. I sincerely hope someone gets around to bringing this back.
See, I don't entirely agree here. When movies add 3D effects just so they can fling a tennisball at the screen while loudly screaming 'LOOK ASSHOLES WE PUT THREE DEE IN THE MOVIE YOU SEE THE TENNISBALL LOOK AT IT IT'S SO FUCKING THREE DEE ARE YOU IMPRESSED YET", I find that obnoxious and pointless.
I rather prefer the immersive effects, that enhance the movies you're watching but don't make you stop and go WHOOAAA THREEE DEEEEE every time.
Avatar still resorted to a few obnoxious moments, but it wasn't as bad as most of the other movies that implemented 3D to jump on the bandwagon that flies out of the screen and into your face.
That said, I faintly remember liking the 3D effects in Ender's Game. They were there, and they added to the movie when they were used, and, if memory serves (it rarely does) they only did the tennisball thing once and didn't exaggerate too much with it.
Of course, if it's true that 3D effects are attenuated for the larger audience, that's dumb. They really should leave the _third dimension_ into their 3D. I do remember thinking about how little stuff popped out that should have in Avatar. Don't think anyone would disagree with that, apart from fundamentalists who think making visually realistic movies is playing god.
Fuck those guys, they can stay with their cave paintings.
Get this man an Oculus Rift!
This was a good show. I really enjoyed the presentation and the journalistic flow was smooth. I'd totally watch more.
Wow the video is still unlisted I feel special. ^-^
Edit AKA an actual comment: Great video! I hope to see more "Ross Rants" in the future cause I found this video really entertaining and I actually learnt something :o
As someone who has tried the Oculus(an older model) I can say that it definitely immerses you like nothing else. I was standing in a crowded, loud, show floor of a convention. Slipped on some headphones and the Oculus and I was transported in 30 seconds. It really was crazy.
Basically there are 2 ways of making a 3D movie, using a super expensive 3D camera when filming or doing it later with special effects. The latter is cheaper but way worse.
3D post-conversions can look good too, it's just that Hollywood doesn't care.
A good movie that demonstrates this is the IMAX documentary, Hubble 3D, from 2011. Only about half was shot with real 15 perf 70mm IMAX film cameras, the rest of the live action (interior stuff in the ISS) was shot with camcorders and 3D converted in post. You can't really tell the difference, which I'd chalk up to the movie being written, directed, and edited by IMAX's own Toni Myers, who would have definitely wanted the 3D converted stuff to match up as close as possible to the scenes shot on film.
Hollywood just doesn't care about good 3D. Hell, even IMAX doesn't really care about making good 3D documentaries anymore, which I guess makes sense with Toni Myers passing away a few year ago.
@@EvanBlax I watched IMAX space station 3D recently and the 3D in that was amazing. There were shots where they were installing pieces of the international space station and just behind it was the Earth and there was one shot where you could visibly see clouds above the water and it was amazing to look at. When it comes to actual movies I personally really enjoy the 3D version of Monsters Inc.
There's an effect in 3D that I call "it's coming right at you!", where some object protrudes extravagantly from the projected plane, that I dislike immensely. It seems, however, that every movie presented in 3D has at least one of them (I think it was a spear or an arrow in Avatar).
The flip side of this was the Conan movie that came out in the last few years, where the really close stuff was few and far between, but the sweeping shots of open plains with mountains in the background looked AMAZING. Really deep.
I remember watching 3D Captain Eo at Disneyland, and it was amazing 3D film. Compared to that Avatar is a nice tech demo, but nothing else.
"Everything's fine, you can go back to fighting."
Hell yeah, thanks for the disclaimer! That saved me 9 minutes or 2.7 bar fights worth of time!
Lol
I watched this video wearing 3D glasses.
I've always been of the "Haven't tried it but it looks amazing" group. But now I must see for myself. You've made it sound like magic.
I can't wear 3D glasses or that new-fangled Oculus Rift. I have to wear perscription glasses. :c
Tony Gregory You can wear glasses with the rift.
***** I like the future ^w^
Tony Gregory I feel ur pain
Adolfo Morgado Well, if Ross says most 3D sucks anyway, maybe we aren't missing much.
Tony Gregory Or you can get contact lenses. Works for me!
I'm 100% with you on the entire "you don't know what you talking about until you have seen it" I thought VR would be monetarily cool until I tried the Oculus rift. The thing blew my mind away so much that like someone with a crack addiction I just couldn't get enough of VR and was disappointed at everything else. Photo-realistic graphics are great and all but they will never make my mind blow like VR.
Fave part 4:00 - 4:05, 8:30
I also have the felling (vibe) that some of the games/movies that you're into are more old school because you started playing games before I did Accursed Farms.
Like for example I really haven't been enjoying games (New games) as much since Skyrims release! I bought the Witch 3 and got to lvl 2... waste of money right now.
But yeah I can see you're point about 3D sucking right now, Before they wanted to try it out and see what it would look like but now it's more practical and they make sure that people don't have heart attacks whilst watching these movies.
I apologist for any grammar mistakes.
Jono Zorn I was just showing games I had actually played in real 3D. You might want to check out my "most anticipated games" video, there's an absolute ton of games coming out these days, I literally can't keep up with all the ones I want to play. Just don't expect them to be the same ones with millions of marketing budget behind them.
It has been a wile since i have last watch that video and I didn't think about it when i wrote this! next time ill put more resource Material in next comment.
Spy kids 3d was pretty awesome. I watched it as a kid and it designed from the start to be 3D. They have portions of the movie where they tell you to put your glasses on so that it isn't blurry the whole time.
You have to try the Oculus Rift. Its a dream come true. Trust me. You are literally in the game.
^^^the truth
I watched Kong Skull Island with these grey glasses as opposed to the red & blue and they are amazing! It's feels like stuff is achually occasionally entering the theater and flying over the people in front.
Fuck yeah! Dude if you'll get oculus rift, you should make a review about it. I wanna see the reaction video of yours
The best 3D movie I ever saw was the Titanic 3D remaster. It was amazing. It had depth. Those shots in the opening when it first goes underwater looked incredible.
Have you tried the Nintendo 3DS? I was skeptical of it but seeing Ocarina of Time in full 3D blew my mind. I'm not even a Zelda fan and I was amazed.
Even the original version of Cave Story with 2D pixel art looks better with the added depth.
This video may be an experiment but I think I can safely say that I enjoy listening to you talk about anything.
Oi! Gravity in 3D was damn amazing!
Though I did only watch one anaglyph 3d movie and that was so long ago I barely remember it...
Williamz I heard this when the movie first came out and was tempted to see it. But modern 3D always gives me a massive headache and supposedly there wasn't much to it aside from the 3D, so I gave it a pass.
I will say one thing. I've used these fairly nice 3-D glasses at the Liberty Science Center for one of their movies once. The movie was far from the best for 3-D, but the glasses were like half-decent sunglasses and even flat things actually popped a bit, despite that not being the big focus.
I want Sword Art Online. Without the being trapped part of course
Coty Lee You speak my mind :D:
.hack fucking pleb
The World would be pretty cool too
Coty Lee I want that so badly that I wouldn't even mind being trapped.
You mean Kid Chameleon?
Hansel and Gretel Witch Hunters had some really jump-inducing 3D effects. I kept instinctually dodging shrapnel and blasts of fire. Bloody amazing.
Spy kids 3d had some pretty good 3d
Toats I feel bad for you that you had to watch that movie.
Pumpkin Pie at first I read it like "Spy kids 'in' 3d" lol.
Toats oh fuck off
1323GamerTV didnt say it was a good movie i just said it had good 3d at the time
You swine dare to diss on a SpyKids movie?! Shame on thee!
Seeing the first How to Train your Dragon in 3D was quite possibly the best movie going experience that I ever had.
Where the hell is Ross?
Ross... I'm a game dev and studied physics for a damn long time...
I have some big points to mention.
*1.* I have an Oculus Rift DK2 for development, and when done right, you fear how good it does it... and you'll cry tears of joy at how insanely exhilarating something like Mario Kart can get in pure VR 3D... Yes, Mario Kart is deadly on the Motion Sickness front though! :P
*2.* Everything you pointed out on the "Good 3D, old movie" was small on screen, that gives it the ability to come out all the way due to the fact that it can be completely within the screen from each eye from your POV... This is why you either watch a movie in 3DIMAX, or not in 3D at all... Try watching Pirates of the Caribbean, when the sword gets stabbed through the door, it makes you jump because the depth can go all the way because it's super thin.
*3.* The majority of what you said about modern day stuff I agree with... but the technology that all the insane amounts of money went into are actually worthy bits of kit, it's just that the production side of things is complete bullshit these days... I watched the new Star Wars in Stereoscopic 3D in AMC the other day, the 3D wasn't too bad, but I watched the most part without the 3D glasses on because the screen was sooo dim, even without the glasses out door scenes set in a DESERT looked like a gloomy horror movie... Wearing the glasses I actually could NOT see what was going on... it was THAT BAD!!!!
Comparing that to watching movies on my Oculus Rift on a Giant Screen in a virtual environment.... I felt insulted...
Plus there nachos tasted like overdated Jalapenos dipped with salty water for a salsa dip. (That is a serious opinion with zero exaggeration)
wooooooo heretic 2!
wow, new series ideas from Ross. What a time to be alive
The best 3D I saw was actually in the Jurassic Park re-release.
When the T-Rex ate the gallimimus, the nearness and the blurriness of the log made me feel like I was hiding with Dr Grant and the kids.
When Ellie said "Mr Hammond, I think we're back in business" I thought "Yeah, yeah, then the velociraptor pops out" but it popped out inches from my face and I nearly jumped out of my chair.
So yeah, I think a lot of it's about narative motivation as well.
I like these experimental rants, I do enjoy listening to people talk about these kinds of interesting subjects.
I think this new series has lots of potential, looking forward to the next video!
I remember when they did 3D week on ABC back in May 1997. It was great and we wore our 3D glasses for the TV show on ABC Primetime that week. In other news my family saw Spy Kids 3D at the Northfield Drive-In Outdoor Theater in Northfield, MA back in August 2003 while it was playing in theaters everywhere.
Love your stuff man, so good, and so funny!
And hey, 120,000 subscribers! Growing slowly but surely! Please, never stop making videos.
I once went on a field trip in my old school where we went to some theater or university or something and they had a 3D movie set up for us kiddies. Basically, I saw real 3D that day, and it was amazing.
Ross should set up another donation page. Could build a monster PC and review the newest games. The possibilities are endless.
Well, i've been all about VR for the last couple of year ( as a Game dev) , and trust me, it's the first time you'll see a game in real-natural 3d. You're right to be excited, it's a game changer.
Aw, would have liked to hear his thoughts on the 3DS. Samus Returns has possibly one of the deepest, if not best, 3D utilization (even if it doesn't affect the gameplay in the slightest) on the system.
But, I suppose that's not quite up Ross's alley
Oh! Now I understand why I never saw 3D in those pretending 3D films.
It is because I've been spoiled by the awesome 3D effects of real 3D cinemas in amusement parks. Those I can actually see!
Need For Speed: High Stakes. Oh Ross, you never fail to tug at my nostalgic heartstrings.
I'm literally incapable of seeing 3d video because I have strabismus and I'm still watching this video
I played some 3D games that actually used the red/blue anaglyph glasses, instead of some gimmicky headset, and it was amazing. Nanosaur 2, for example, was a flight game, and the 3D depth actually made it easier because you could navigate better without crashing into things. Also shooting stuff was easier and way more fun.
Long time fan. Though I am a little bit disappointed you didn't write "Oculus Ross" on your paper version.
Premise for next rant: OSTs or game-to-film/film-to-game/etc merch and adaptions.
Tyranidkillr "Oculus Ross" - I cracked up! :D
Tyranidkillr "Oculus Ross."
I have reached valhalla with that comment.
DrScaphandre :D
The only time I've seen stereoscopic 3D in all of its glory was when I visited a planetarium as a kid and watched a presentation about the solar system. That was like getting high through my eyes. Sure, it made me dizzy as hell afterwards, but it was worth it.
Great video Ross!
I do NOT get motion sickness. Well, I didn't until I tried out a flying game on the oculus. I banked 90 degrees and almost threw up on the camera.
Biggest other issue I had was the pixels were very noticeable on the screen because it's so close to your eyes. Otherwise, had a great time.
I haven't been impressed with any kind of 3D in years, outside of the 3D movie I experienced in a Science Center 20 years ago. I had the opportunity to try the Oculus Rift at a Comic Con this year, and I nearly forgot that I was sitting in a convention center with thousands of people around, it was an unbelievably realistic and immersive experience and I felt like I was actually in the game's world.
Dude I could just listen to Ross talk for hours.
1) You look like Zeke in Zombies Ate my Neighbors
2) As a person who can't see sources of binocular 3D, man it sucks I'll never get to enjoy it done right.
3) Continuing thanks for making videos, in a time where it seems like every subscribed channel I have is dropping in quality for lack of new ideas or increasing mass appeal, you seem to keep doing knock-outs. I appreciate reliable quality.
Very cool video Ross. I remember a year or so ago, my local Best Buy had one of the first 3D TV's and had the 3D glasses on display so you could try them out. I personally didn't feel amazed by the 3D, if I'm not mistaken they had a racing game trailer playing to demonstrate the 3D.
Loved the format. Do a rant about Frames per second, and 720p and 1080p. Those could possibly be interesting subjects to rant about.
Hey Ross, I've worn an occulus one for a school project and I will say it was fairly impressive. I personally got a headache after half an hour but I attribute that to the low resolution of the student made games I played. It isn't real 3d like you like thoigh. Stuff doesn't pop out at you, but that's because everything is always popped out at you. The screen is 2 inches from your eyes and you are totally immersed. I hope you enjoy it upon release.
I got to try an oculus rift, and it was incredible. I played this visual simulation, and it put me in a variety of environments, from dense forests to claustrophobic rooms, and car crash happened right in front of me, and finally I fell off of a building. It all felt so real, I actually had to close my eyes when I started falling. It was really the most immersive experience of my life.
The best 3D effect I've ever seen in a movie was a logo. That logo was amazing, but I don't remember what it was.
The only good experiences I've had with 3D both come from elementary school years.
When I was maybe like 9 or 10 I used to like to see IMAX documentaries downtown, and I was able to convince my teacher to get us to go on a field-trip to the IMAX theatre to see one of the new, 3D movies on the space race. That shit rocked. The huge scream, powerful surround sound speakers and fantastic 3D made it a moment to remember. I can still vividly recall smoke from the rocket blurring my vision as it came out of the screen and flinching in one scene because an orange came hurdling right at me. No movie has topped those effects, in terms of 3D being worth it.
The other experience was in the arcade near my house where they had one of those games where you put on a gun and a helmet and you're still standing. The graphics weren't great, but the 3D ruled. Can't find the game now to save my life. Wish I could. It was essentially a DOOM clone with some low resolution models and 3D effects. Played the hell out of that, Raiden, PacMan co-op with my dad and Street Fighter 2.
Tron Legacy was SO disappointing in 3D. That franchise? That universe? That was MADE for 3D! I mean come on! Light cycles? Disc-fights? Those things should have been zooming out of the screen! It should have been INCREDIBLE!
Nothing.
The Rift is bloody amazing. The first time I've felt vertigo in a video-game, and this was on the DK1 on the roller coaster demo.
This was great! Especially that ending. I've yet to be properly impressed by virtual reality 3D and I can't say I'm completely sold on putting a device on my face like that. I'd be up for Nintendo's New 3DS method that does the head tracking but on a larger, more detailed screen size. That would be cool for me, I don't want to wear something on my head like that, but maybe if I try the rift at some point and like it, I could see me using it for some games probably. I dunno, the 3DS gives me headaches if I play in 3D for too long, but I think even on the XL the screen is too small for the effect to make much of a difference.
My friend bought a DK2 and we play it all the time. We make sure everybody who steps into his house tries it at least once, and I have seen 15-20 first reactions from people who play video games everyday to people who never touch them. Everybody is blown is away the first time, guaranteed. I'll pay for shipping both ways if you want to borrow it Ross!
I recommend, if you've never seen it, Dredd 3D. That movie had incredible 3D effects, I would say probably the best out of any movie released in the last 20 years. I don't know if you can actually get the 3D version on DVD or Blu-Ray, but if you can I recommend giving it a look.
Thanks for releasing a video on my birthday. I just happened to watch it a week late XD
I think I am the 1000th comment! I kinda miss the Ross Rants series loved this episode on 3D I didn’t know much about it before watching this.
The first "3d" movie I ever saw was Avatar. Now that you mentioned it, I remember the 3d not really being 3d but just a 2d picture of say those floating islands in front an 2d background. Having nothing to compare it to back then I thought it was the pinnacle of cinematographic achievement.
I would love to see more rant videos like this form you Ross!
I found this to be very enjoyable Ross. Thank you for being a Content Creator.
I tried the 1st version of Oculus rift (the blocky, ugly, low res development kit) about a year ago on a "geek" roadshow (they had google glass, some funny scientific stuff and "geeky" stuff like that) and I tried this swingset/ catapult demo, where you would sit in a big metal swingset they have on funfairs and theme parks that spins around higher and higher, eventually you slip from your seat and you get catapulted into the air, you fly over the city and you eventually crash into the ground.
The whole thing was low res, and my eyes were unable to focus at anything specific, which was VERY awkward (it was even worse because I wear dioptric glasses), but my god, it was amazing and scary experience at the same time. They even had a surround headset to go with it, and the atmosphere of the whole setup reminded me of those "in your face" old 3d movies so much and it was awesome. So yeah, when they tweak it and make it so that your brain doesn't hurt after 2 minutes of usage, I think it has potential.
I've tried the DK1 & DK2 Rift before, and I plan on trying CV1 at PAX this year. So far it's everything you want it to be. Taking one off after a game is almost like waking up from a dream. It's NUTS.
As someone who tried the oculus rift and other VR headsets the biggest issue was the resolution. I felt like I pressed my face up against my old 90s television. Though they say the resolution will be increasing in the next models I will take a new high res and frame rate monitor for gaming over VR.
Though the head tracking is impressive it does not give you a feeling of 3D because the images are still flat.
I had a lazy eye as a child and had to have several eye surgeries in order to fix it. To this day it still drifts, especially if I'm tired. As a consequence, I never developed "stereovision", which is what makes those 3D puzzles and 3D movie effects work.
the good thing about all these VR headsets is that this 3D works like real life 3D
thanks to the fact that there are actually 2 screens in most of these things your eyes actually see 2 different images instead of 3D glasses bullshit where you just have glasses with 2 different lenses and as soon as you tilt your head or look at the screen from a funny angle the 3d falls apart
One of the only movie's I've seen in 3d in the current way is Coraline, and that had a 3D effect I had not seen tried before in any of the red and blue ones(Which I all didn't like how they looked and the glasses were awkward over my real glasses). Coraline was good about the things actually coming off the screen and such, but the effect I'm talking about is her entering her room in the other world. The paper cranes fly into the scene from OFF of the screen. They don't come out, they go in. And that is my favorite use of 3D ever.
"No! That's not amazing!
That's bullshit!"
This describes so much in my life
"Isn't anybody going to ask about the glasses? Go on, ask me about the glasses."
I agree on the "3D should be super intense" part. I've only seen one 3D movie-okay, I lie, but one I remember. I don't remember why I was watching it or when, but it was something like nat geo that was in an imax 3d theater-it was a curved screen before curved tvs were a thing. The seats were up high, in groups, and away from the screen. When it started, I wasn't too impressed. Then there was this underwater shot where there were fish swimming. THAT was amazing. I actually had to take my glasses off for a few seconds because of how much depth there was-it felt REAL.