Everyone loves souless ads and you are the one selling them, wha a nice job this must be Would be great if your content was good enough to not only get shitty sponsors
Small correction; Freeholds do not have the highest level of crafting, they have the highest level of processing. Cities have the highest level of crafting.
I've been saying this for years now... The major problem with their animation / combat, is that the locomotion distance system they're using is out-of-sync with the animation. Meaning, the characters movement is extremely fast compared to their animation, which results in them feeling like out of place / gliding. This takes the depth out of the entire movement / animation and fight scenes. BDO does this well, because when your character moves his body, the distance the character crosses is very proportional and in sync with its animation, while in ashes, the character moves fast and cross long distances when its animation is barely still moving. The character moves along the X axis BEFORE the animation starts, and it's out of sync with it.
@@jadhajali2804 Noone said that its BDO or this game must be like BDO, he only compared the animations between the 2 game which is fair since both game is MMO. Can you even read?
And no, this isn't a dig on the developers because they have a lot to do and should take their time. But titles like this are misleading beyond their literal meaning.
@@akaviral5476 yeah this is very blatant and stupidly obvious clickbait. alpha 2 is still a good year/year and a half away and I can't see the game fully releasing the next 3-4 years
@@AuxxiliaryATCI've seen clickbaity titles about this game for the last 6 years. Again, the devs have every right to take as much time as they need to perfect this to reflect their vision. But titles like this fuel a flame of impatience and misunderstanding of where the game is at.
I think all of us just want the new wow, and the experience of huge player base and endless opportunity. I hope it turns out amazing and I will definitely try it but i have my doubts
But seriously, how can you be excited for this? it looks like a 2012 games that will come out in 2030?? it looks so bad and stiff, even the skills are bad and not that flashy@@scottjames8498
I think I'd like to see the spell effects be more cohesive. Ball Lighting as an orb that just floats across the ground, when it could be like tumbling and arcing forward. Just feels a bit placeholdery.
Just had a great idea!! Your freeholds should have billboards where you can put up quests other plays can do. Like little tasks around your freehold. So when people walk by a freehold they can check and see if they can get some quick exp killing pigs and chopping corn. This will also allow players have to more efficient freehold when they are on the other side of the map.
Oh that would be so cool! Just wandering around and stumble across some rando's house, find a board that reads "Out raiding, 5 gold if you collect my crops."
Looks solid. I'm sure they'll improve it as time goes on, but the combat just doesn't look very punchy or satisfying. Also, I hope that in addition to instanced apartments they maybe do those half-acre plots and instance those. Gives the mid-tier players a place to put a small house and a plot of crops or two.
I agree with you at the same time wstching this combat do make me feel confortable the last thing i need is another flashy ultra fast constantly spinning around combat. Im ok with some slow paced with cool animated combat.
you 2 are expecting dark souls level stuff on everything you both have been spoiled way to much persons like me that have been use to seeing this stuff for years is fine with it you both need to stick with your dark souls / elden ring environment and stop trying to convert every fantasy rpg thats out there into a dark souls / elden ring environment there is already a lot of games out there that are releasing this year and next year with that type of mind set not all of us wants to play dark souls version 20
@@keithrees4755 Jesus man they never said any of that lol. Calm down. The game's combat looks lackluster even compared to Guild Wars 2, a game that released in 2012 (I played around that time). Its a valid criticism that the combat isn't up to snuff with modern MMOs.
I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic as while feature-wise I love almost everything I've seen so far but the character animations, particle effects, and many of the textures look awful. This is still in alpha and so I'm expecting all of these things to be improved upon and polished and I cant wait to see what it looks like when it reaches a beta phase.
I know its beating a dead horse, but all design comes later. The base is good enough to test out things, the important thing is developing the "backend" of the systems. If they feel like they completed the backend and all the systems, they can spend 6 months squashing bugs and focusing most of the workforce towards design. Yes, the game won't look like black desert's "glossy" look, its not mean't to. Its a mix of World of Warcraft, Lineage 2, Archeage and including cooler particle effects and lighting, but its won't be focusing on the "next level" design, and I prefer it that way.
Im confused on why people think it looks awful but yet all the games people are playing MMO wise are worse than this...and this is in Alpha. Im honestly dont understand, maybe I have a monkey brain.
@@Leiloni I get the comment. The spell effects looked like place holders, which they might very well be. But as OP said; Im here for the mechanics of the world.
@@whoaskedyoutolookatthis idk black desert looks awfull aswell, low res textures, No to super bad Distance LODs and pop ins, oh lawd the pop ins, its just good at applying a T H I C C layer of postprocessing Shader ontop of it to make it look "nice".
@@peterlovis520 There'll be some features, but that's standard. They all try and do some of those, but I have seen very little in the way of rethinking all the things that needs to change to evolve the genre, even as numerous and obvious as they are. The project smacks of dilettantism. Some rich guy was bummed by the fate of his favourite MMORPG, which BTW wasn't very good, and decided to make his own version. He surrounded himself with industry yes people who will smile and go through the motions as long as the pay comes in, but he doesn't _really_ know what he's doing. Added to that it will be PvP centric, and we know how marginal those audiences tend to be in the long run. There's a LOT of unanswered questions in that design too. And finally he seems content with the idea that if he likes it, that's all that matters. *Shrug* I can't imagine that this will be a relevant game to the vast majority of players who are waiting for the genre to get shook up.
Its not about "revolutionary ground breaking" . Jesus fukeee, chill out. Gamers with their "give me" . Nobody owes you anything. You either like and play what you see or dont.
Agreed. I am only vaguely familiar with this project and all through this otherwise excellent video I was thinking, "Isn't this just replicating what has already been done?" And limiting those large plots is going to turn some players off. If they want it and are not able to obtain it, then why will they play as there is nothing all that unique to keep them interested? And even for those that do have them, so what? The game is still just another version of games they have played before and are not playing now. ;-) LOL
I'd actually love if they didn't change the spell effects too much or at least kept them to be more minimal, even though they aren't this massive spectacles by themselves I think they actually look great when in group fights cause you can actually see other players spells and not just one big glob of colour.
8:00 Inventory management is the single most important thing in an MMO and this looks annoying as hell. It needs to be super accessible to everyone of every level of skill. Leave the micro to activities, not inventory
I'm so split on this and I want to test it.. There was aspect of arguments that Steven said which I did agree on. Which is after someone kills you, then it shouldn't be quick grab and go, make that process annoying to make it take longer There is also possibility of a timer before you are allowed to loot the body I guess. Don't know which system I would find the most annoying over
@@T3FAT It just gives me gamer-ptsd when I see something that reminds me of Star citizen inventory with annoying clicking and dragging. If something can be done to not disrupt the experience but keep it balanced, like the timer you brought up, and keeping it like a more normal experience, then I'd be happy
@@akaviral5476 I'm certain you can move items from container to inventory fast with the usual controls like double click or shift click/ctrl click. There will also be auto sort, you wont have to do all the tetris shit. It also isn't like this for the main inventory, its only for the resource inventory. Many people do enjoy this kind of inventory, look at DayZ and Tarkov for example.
What MMO have you seen (that is any good) be developed in less time? People need to stop being parrots and repeating this. You want a crap game that was made quickly, is that what you’re saying? There are tons of them out there, go play some.
keep in mind for the node/freeholds, if your city/node battles an invader and loses, you lose everything. At least thats how they advertised it. This is to increase participation in large scale pvp battles, because if you have a house/freehold youd def wanna join in on the defense to make sure your side wins so it isnt torn down to be made available for the victors of the node war
You lose your mats. Any progress you made with building up your freehold will be returned to you so you can place it back again when you get a freehold again.
insp. - 8:30 - how do we best disguise an 'instance' within the world? {we dont want players to recognise that were an instance begins and where it ends}. NPC activity? environment blending(visible or invisible borders/barriers between differing environment?)
I think it would be nice to get an update on how the other housing is going to work, as right now people are all bent out of shape because freeholds are “too exclusive”, and the text update Intrepid put out after that stream was nice, but more details would help imo
@@myaps1859 I understand that, but what those “other methods” are has never been detailed, and rarely even mentioned. It would be nice to get some info on them, as the audience for that content will be MUCH larger than will ever get a freehold.
Within cities there will be instanced apartments and some in-world city housing plots you can purchase. Freeholds are meant to be limited and something you will have to work for.
@@Nevario1 cool. How much will they cost? At what stage of the node will they be available? How much room will they have? What will be possible in them, compared to the freeholds? What do they look like? See what I mean?
@@CimarbYeah. I fully agree the exclusivity is nice, but I worry about the chonks who play all day having a freehold and getting massive boons from it while others get an apartment or something thats just for playing the sims decorating
the main issue I can see with real space player housing is the big merchant guilds who do nothing but farm money all day every day snapping up an entire server's worth of land and just sitting on it... It's an unfortunate reality that with finite space comes demand and, knowing FF14 like I do... people will quit if they can't get their houses.. I would like if we could also get an ESO style system of instanced housing too.. maybe an expandable plot of instanced land kinda like the island sanctuary?
my copium is that once they're not pushing so hard to make all the systems they'll go back and really fine-tune the specifics of speed and what the abilities themselves do, because it feels like they're just trying to show that the system is there, rather then that it's complete if that makes sense
Firstly, do the people who pre-order the alpha 2 access also get the completed game (when it is) and is it worth spending over 70 quid for un unfinished game?
looking forward to see some interesting mechanic like fishing in AA wish i believed i spent over 400 hours of my 1k hours of play time. one of the most welldone fishing mechanic in MMO in my opinion. the mini game, carrying the actual fish rather than just in your inventory, a boat with a tank to physically put the actual fish in and see it swimming in it. its as realistic as it can get in a game
I recall this game has been in development for 5-6 years at least, yea one day closer to 2030. It baffles me as to how many people gave so much money and waiting for it till they can play it on their death bed
Small correction; the milky way will collide and fuse with the Andromeda galaxy before we get consumed by Sagittarius A* (the black hole in the center of the milky way) so the devs have a bit more time before we get consumed
I agree with live freeholds can be something you have to work for. That said, I don't think that it is a good idea to just "nope" all the casual players. Just make instanced freeholds a thing that the other players can achieve.
I still say that the choice to neglect PvE is a bad one. Every excuse mentioned has a good fix but they don't want to even consider it. I just hope I'll be able to play the game. It looks so good. I'm also worried about the housing... If we are putting all the time and work into it but a neighboring city over takes us, do we just up and lose all of it...?
Thanks for the update. Kind of mixed feelings on this. The combat seems to have completely gone away from the 50/50 action to tab target they talked about a long time ago, seems like it's pretty much fully tab target at this point.
I'm gonna give the game a go, if free holds are out of my reach I'll end up moving on though, as that is by far the biggest thing that interests me. This is largely because I don't really play mmos because I don't ever feel a part of the world so I lose interest. To this day the only MMO I played for a long period was called The Saga of Ryzom (later changed to just Ryzom), and it was because I made a difference in the game because the population was low, so my arrival on battlefields was always of note. It made it fun because I actually mattered within the world.
hell yeah this is like lineage 2 all over again i was sitting on the fence about AOC but now after seeing this footage i now want to try out AOC when it gets fully released ty mr Peon for wanting to show this
What I want to know about this game is the "progress". For some reason I don't like reaching endgame in a "week" or a "month" in RPG games while start grinding endlessly afterwards. This may be due to the fact that the RPGs that impressed me the most were the old RPGs and they definitely had some slow progress.
It needs to be done correctly tho or it kills newer playerbase. If you have to wait months to do endgame content and you dont have an extremely valid alternative (example, raids for lower levels with forced mechanics so max level players cant just come and oneshot the bosses or an enforced "max level gear for this instance") you get bored really fast.
As someone who was most exited about freehold I am sad to see the direction they decided to take with it. They are aming to have 50K players per server - 10k at launch - and only low thousands of freeholds and since you will have to get to levl 50 first and then compete agains other players and most importantly guilds to get one... well even if I am more hardcore player I cant make enough coins to bid agains guilds (also I really dont want to rush levl 50) so I am afraid that guilds will own almost all freeholds and there is no way anyone will be able to stop them. In a greater scheme of things that also means I wont be able to have access to best processing so there goes my plans to be best breeder in my Node.
That warning aggro system is actually not that uncommon, I'm pretty sure even WoW has it, I've definitely seen it in LotRO and other old MMOs. It's just not a very noticeable feature most of the time
I really wish this game will succeed, truly I really do, but every time I look at the combat...its just...its bad, there is basically no chance this game can hook me to invest time in it with that combat. I would probably try it out as there are a lot of systems that makes me curious to try it and the world in it looks decent, but I would probably get bored very quick. In the beginning of the video, where the Wizard skills are shown...it felt like I watched Aeon remastered or some combat from a 2010 game at best...it is just not enough, maybe it will get better as this is just the Alpha version, if this is the final version of the combat...I really wish them luck in gaining and retaining a big amount of players.
@@Mike-wu7ie I did not say the quality of the overall game is bad, I actually believe its good, but the combat is the weakest point in the game(by far), again its not necessarily how the combat looks... as in its not flashy enough etc, it seems slow, clunky, outdated, not fluid at all...just bad, in my opinion at least. Also the game is not even out yet, imagine how the current combat of the game will look like in 3-5 years from now...compared with other games.
My main issue so far, is that combat looks unimpactful. I dont feel that spells impact the target. It lacks the punch, dunno how to explain it better. Also I expected elements such as Ice to look more realistic on UE5, but it looks more like in League of Legends or something.
My main concern with this game is that the enemies look to be extremely tanky. I prefer enemy difficulty be more about how much damage they do to you and more complex attacks. Being a powerful wizard who takes 5 minutes to kill a flower is a little immersion breaking and unfun.
i personally LOVE the tankiness, random mobs actually feel like an encounter now. It only starts to get annoying when you get aggroed by random mobs every minute.
Im registered and waiting for this game before crowdfunding. I got so excited since day 1, but I never imagined I will have to wait sooooo long :d Cant wait
Just wanted to correct you in regards to crafting bench on the freehold, Highest level crafted equipment can only be done in city nodes, however freehold can make the highest level processed goods (aka ingots, lumber and so on which goes into the crafted items) So you want to buy resources from node caravan it back to freehold to refine it to bring back to the city to sell or craft
This is why I see the Freehold being limited being okay; - Everyone in effect can get player housing, can be part of a Guild with a Guild Castle. Freeholds are just that next level. - People who will be most likely to not only obtain one, but get the most use and fun will be Life Skillers/Non combat activity PVE leaning players. Why not give them an advantage for once? - But it's not a disadvantage to everyone else. WHY? Because if you have to use their facilities, I'm sure they'll be more than willing to allow you to for a price, or even free. So you can add some more dimensions to the overall economy. - I'm a PVP guy, I'm happy to pay you to use your facilities in-between fighting a bunch of other players all the time. Or even hang out and admire it.
i honestly think the combat system looks fine but there has to be some kind of serious decision-making when it comes to pressing an ability. Of course everyone prefers different combat layouts, but i do really enjoy a more laid back, relaxed, but more punishable system. im definitely curious about AoC. good video :)
I just want to know if we get to claim any open land or territory we choose. I want to find the most remote mountain sanctuary and carve it out with my bare digital hands if I can.
Don't understand why people are so hyped for this game. Looks about the same as most other MMOs out right now. Oh and its still using a tab target system in 2023 lol
The combat still looks very clunky and dated. I guess this isn't quite where they want it to be yet. The skill effects are both too bright and low res at the same time. The cleric ones look better than the mage ones so I hope they update mage's skill effects. They can be flashy but not blinding but these skills are approaching blinding territory. They need to put as much effort into the combat system as they did with the environmental assets and graphics. Combat will be what keeps people playing.
This comment will probably rustle a few jimmies, but you are absolutely right. I see comments praising the heck out of the combat and I'm just like: this looks bad, really bad (for modern standards).
Guys, if you want this game to succeed but don't like the combat, please head over to their forum and express your dissatisfaction there. Because right now, the few fanboys of an unreleased game are very vocal and they never criticize the devs.
The freehold system is just another reason why i think this game won't be as big as everyone wants it to be. I would love to see it be a massive hit but some of the systems are just going to turn people off to it. In my opinion, they should have done similar to what Dark Age of Camelot did with their housing system, which is nothing like garrisons in WoW
@@theGn0rp Because people like to be able to take part in the features they are paying to be developed. I'm actually starting to agree more and more as I see more of the game, the game is going to be dead on arrival like New World if for no other reason than open pvp. Free holds are just another reason not to buy the game if you can't no life the game. There's no reason you can't have a kind of phased Freehold system where if you own one in an area you see your own but if you don't own one you see whoever is the highest level or a party members if in a party. restricting players ability to use features of your game is never a good business decision.
@@tgamer1510 Except it is, exclusivity is rewarding the people who worked hard. If everybody just got participation trophies, what is the point in competition? If you want everyone to have equal access to everything, you're better off playing Stardew valley or animal crossing. You dont have time to grind for a freehold? No problem, just settle for less and buy an instanced apartment, nothing wrong with that, you can still do literally everything else in the game and it makes next to zero difference.
@@theGn0rp I would agree with you, IN THEORY it should be how you are saying. But it's not the reality in my experience, the majority of players want everything, if you say "No" to them or "you have to work VERY hard for it" they won't be like "OOOH, THAT'S NICE, SOMETHING TO WORK ON!", they will just drop the game. Take a look at the percentile of players that play the most hardcore content in mmo, is always single digit. Take a look at the most successful mmorpg, everyone can get almost everything. Also if you take the mmorpg as a genre you will see that where most players caters are stuff like crafting, housing, fashion hunting e stuff like that, not raid or dungeons, and will be the same in AoC... But then you have system like the freehold that players would want to get into but can't. And we are talking big numbers, most of the players. It's not like having an hard mode of a raid that only 5% get to play, who cares? A minority of players play raids. Housing is way bigger than this. More players are involved.
I'm not saying the game is going to be DoA or anything like that. I'm saying there will be people who work hard for it but won't be able to get a freehold due to it being limited. It's not about being given a participation trophy either, some people like to experience all aspects of a game they are playing
Those cleric skills look stunning! And love the bunny mounts :3 - I really do not have the funds to coinflip a beta/alpha rn so thank you for covering this game!
ya, but the more i learn at the same time.. this game seems like it will cater to people who love to grief on top of HARDCORE players doesnt seem casual friendly at all ha
So far so good but please don't make us manage materials in the inventory... Noone likes to manage materials, it would be a lot better if we had an infinite material tab.
Please don't mix RPGs. I do get this feedback to Diablo 4 which is grindy and solo grind (Lost Ark vs Diablo 4 debate right?). But this is a bad argument for a MMORPG like AoC which is different type of game. Because it's building around community and world economic systems. For example infinite material tabs would make the caravan system obsolote, something that been there since day 1. Even though I agree I'm bit sceptic of how the materials being managed right now, and their arguments around it. But it doesn't feel right now, but got to try it before complaining to much. But I'm open for another suggestions
You can just autosort it, the whole reason is to make it so players can't horde the resources that feed the Caravan system and just bypass it entirely.
for everyone who didnt know the developpers stated that alpha 2 preorder pack of september will be the last one so i think its realistic to say alpha 2 launches at some point in the winter
This might be an unpopular opinion, but the toned-down spell effects appeal to me as they increase visibility. The world however looks too procedural with no distinguishable landmarks and the monsters feeling out of place. Still waiting to see what the end-game boss fight looks like mechanic-wise, as this will probably be the make or break for me.
The world is still being built out but that being said, most of the streams where they show gameplay, the gameplay happens at unique, distinguishable landmarks and they talk about them and the lore of these locations at length (and most of these locations also have specific story arcs that happen there as well).
I agree with the spell effects, but to me the world looks really amazing! Idk if you've followed all their livestreams but there's many landmarks already in the game. There also needs to be room for boring large forests and empty fields of grass and flowers. If you fill everything up its gonna be cluttered and non-immersive. Also what i love so far about the game, is that they dont have a PNG skybox background.. everything you can see in the distance (mountains, hills, volcanoes etc.) you can ACTUALLY get to.
I feel like this game is going to fail and mark the death of MMOs. The combat is awful, and all the "immersive" stuff will get annoying in a few weeks (like New World storage locked in cities). I'm not a hater, but sometimes the playerbase really don't know what they really want.
Seen it happen too many times. I’ve spent thousands of hours on Guild Wars 2, and I see no reason to play anything else. I’m not for the “immersion” I’m for the games that can get me on and off quickly thoughout my busy life. That’s what Guild Wars 2 offers.
the combat is mostly fine. it's mainly lacking the bells n whistles. If you actually dig in to what makes a combat system... it's not that complicated conceptually(or even mechanically really). BDO for example is just a combo spam and using player orientation for ability direction. It has its pro's n con's. Archeage's combat system was plenty good for tab-target imo (technically hybrid), and AoC is heavily inspired by Archeage (like, incredibly. even the story beginning is similar).
This'll be one of those MMOs we all look forward to, get really hyped about..... then it'll do something really lame to just kill it for 99% of people. I'm too old now to get hyped over MMOs, we get a good one once every 10 years...
Can you advice me what to play like i play almost all the time Silkroad Online which i couldn't find in your Videos but when you check it out do you think there is something similar
I actually have no complaints about the combat. You may rate it a 6 or 7 / 10 but I think that's more to do with the flashy, visual, fast paceness that people might expect from like a BDO but what makes combat fun for me is the focus on fast pace decision making by the developers. Take a game like FFXIV in the late game with raiding... You really need to have a good grasp on your cool downs, what each ability does, timing with your other group members, timing with boss mechanics, and positioning to master class. So really, combat ratings should add that extra category and tbh BDO would absolutely fail in that regard. Sure it's flashy and mobile but it's so grindy. It's all about big damage and killing things that are just auto attacking you in mass, but that gets very boring, very quickly. Ashes has already shown that they want you to memorize each encounter and plan accordingly. That is what breeds longevity in an MMO.
the difference between action vs tab is like... 1 mechanical difference. it's how it's built is what matters. Archeage was tab target but it had mobility, fluid combo's and low cooldown times. When people ask for action, I sometimes wonder what that even means. BDO? it's combo spam that uses player orientation to determine where abilities go. It's just the sfx and animations carry it.
Ashes of COPIUM This game just doesn't look good. Those animations are straight up abysmal and worse than mobile games-levels of bad. It seriously looks like one of those early access survival games on Steam that are using stock/bought Unreal assets.
Bec. its finally no themepark mmo. It looks decent even in an alpha status...looks rly like daoc at some part and some people will love that ;) If you don t like it sure np, just search for another mmo you like.
Combat looks terrible, graphics look 10 years out of date, gameplay looks like it's themed off of BDO/ESO. There just really is no reason to move from games like BDO, ESO or World of Warcraft to play this as a long term game. It's one of those play a month and dump it type of games. As much as I would love to see that "wow killer", this game just isn't that. @@dmsephiroth
@@somerandy3062 Your opinion! i rly like the graphic and gameplay. Not every MMO(RPG)must be a a super +fastpaced+ mmo like modern mmos pal. Some people LIKE slower combat and other graphic styles. UE 5 does look rly nice. Did you see the video bout the change of seasons? its rly beautiful :) im looking forward that this game will be polished more!
I don't know why people are so optimistic about this. Looking at class design, and skill design, I get the distinct impression these devs have never even played the popular mmos such as: WoW, FFXIV, BDO, much less more obscure mmos that had genuine good class design. They seem to be relying entirely on second hand knowledge from Lineage2 and Archeage.
Appreciate the update vid with your thoughts! I have been following this game off and on for a few years now, and things look like they are taking more shape for a release. Do we have a general expectation for release at this point?
Idk im still not hyped of this game.. alot of question marks in my mind also it feels like based on party play only or idk how you lvl with a healer if you dont have any dmg spell? or im crazy? And this freehold thing?what's the benefit for solo players how they play this game not everyone like to group up ..
one thing they need to focus on the most is OPTIMIZATION and future proofing the engine. they are working for years, they will work on it for another few years. for a game to stay relevant and good, it needs to be architected well enough. espeically with AI today, i hope they can do something with that power or talk about it what they can do with it for this game and how would they use it. they just need this game to run smoothly as possible on every preset level for given specified card and thats it, it's gonna be great. but yea, there is so much new stuff coming and getting bettered, they need to think about that to stay relevant, they probably will stay relevant regardless because it's not a bad game at all, but developing a game with future in mind will actually give players better incentive and other people that havent tried it yet to be a good game to play and invest and spend time on.
Have you gotten to try fishing? I am reading you can craft fishing boats...Sport fishing in Archeage was the greatest thing ever honestly. Sure hope it exists in this game!
We're at the point now where I'm checking my Email a few times a week for stress test invite. I Know we're probably still at least a few months away but it only takes a few seconds to check and I'm not missing the first one I get an invite too.
Ofc, otherwise people will buy land in the game and when they quit the game, it will stay there forever and no one else can access it. In-game rent is pretty common, politics and economy is often what makes MMO's. If you don't like those things, you should probably stick with FPS games or simpleminded RPGs like roguelites.
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this game is never coming out, like star citizen
@@jinz0 to make good game takes time , but i hope you are wrong
Thanks for the video; if this game ever releases it will be something I might grab.
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Small correction;
Freeholds do not have the highest level of crafting, they have the highest level of processing. Cities have the highest level of crafting.
Seconded. Great video LP!
I've been saying this for years now...
The major problem with their animation / combat, is that the locomotion distance system they're using is out-of-sync with the animation.
Meaning, the characters movement is extremely fast compared to their animation, which results in them feeling like out of place / gliding.
This takes the depth out of the entire movement / animation and fight scenes.
BDO does this well, because when your character moves his body, the distance the character crosses is very proportional and in sync with its animation, while in ashes, the character moves fast and cross long distances when its animation is barely still moving.
The character moves along the X axis BEFORE the animation starts, and it's out of sync with it.
This isn't BDO, if you want BDO, play BDO.
@@DoingFavors Who says it's BDO?
And who says that I want BDO?
Who are you anyways?
Reply to the comment properly, or don't reply at all.
You can tell them that in the official forums. Maybe they could improve it
@@johnmaco Think I did that a long time ago.
@@jadhajali2804 Noone said that its BDO or this game must be like BDO, he only compared the animations between the 2 game which is fair since both game is MMO. Can you even read?
I mean, technically yes, it *is* getting closer. One day closer to being five to ten years away
And no, this isn't a dig on the developers because they have a lot to do and should take their time. But titles like this are misleading beyond their literal meaning.
@@akaviral5476 yeah this is very blatant and stupidly obvious clickbait. alpha 2 is still a good year/year and a half away and I can't see the game fully releasing the next 3-4 years
I’ve seen this joke on every video for the last 6 years.
@@AuxxiliaryATCI've seen clickbaity titles about this game for the last 6 years. Again, the devs have every right to take as much time as they need to perfect this to reflect their vision. But titles like this fuel a flame of impatience and misunderstanding of where the game is at.
its not that serious lol. @@akaviral5476
Glad that the hype is calming down a bit, and expectations are becoming more realistic.
There is no reason to be super hyped for game release in 2026+
I think all of us just want the new wow, and the experience of huge player base and endless opportunity. I hope it turns out amazing and I will definitely try it but i have my doubts
keep on dreaming
@@Allhavengames with the requirements this game will demand i seriously doubt it would reach⅓ of wow's pop
What hype? LOL
Although i do watch the full length dev videos i appreciate these recaps. As always great video
They got nothing. Theyre just throwing bricks!😂😂😂😂
I am excited for this game i hope it can release beta version in 2031 thank you for sharing such a amazing game lazy.
Yah they got 5 bills out of me what 3 or 4 years ago. Maybe 2027!
But seriously, how can you be excited for this? it looks like a 2012 games that will come out in 2030?? it looks so bad and stiff, even the skills are bad and not that flashy@@scottjames8498
Idk man I heard 2030 since they're dropping the pre-order packs...
LMFAO @@DoingFavors
I love how often these videos come out. Getting an update every week, even every month, would burn me out for sure. Every 3 months or so is perfect.
I think I'd like to see the spell effects be more cohesive. Ball Lighting as an orb that just floats across the ground, when it could be like tumbling and arcing forward. Just feels a bit placeholdery.
all of their spell effects feel this way. It looks like EQ2.
This is an alpha, it's extremely stupid to put work into spell animation that will be removed but I agree it looks dogsh*t
Just had a great idea!! Your freeholds should have billboards where you can put up quests other plays can do. Like little tasks around your freehold. So when people walk by a freehold they can check and see if they can get some quick exp killing pigs and chopping corn. This will also allow players have to more efficient freehold when they are on the other side of the map.
cringe
thats an awesome idea!!
you too can become a day laborer!
Oh that would be so cool! Just wandering around and stumble across some rando's house, find a board that reads "Out raiding, 5 gold if you collect my crops."
@@Drothen- You are the only cringe thing here... That's right... Thing... Not even a human..
Looks solid. I'm sure they'll improve it as time goes on, but the combat just doesn't look very punchy or satisfying. Also, I hope that in addition to instanced apartments they maybe do those half-acre plots and instance those. Gives the mid-tier players a place to put a small house and a plot of crops or two.
I agree with you at the same time wstching this combat do make me feel confortable the last thing i need is another flashy ultra fast constantly spinning around combat. Im ok with some slow paced with cool animated combat.
you 2 are expecting dark souls level stuff on everything you both have been spoiled way to much persons like me that have been use to seeing this stuff for years is fine with it you both need to stick with your dark souls / elden ring environment and stop trying to convert every fantasy rpg thats out there into a dark souls / elden ring environment there is already a lot of games out there that are releasing this year and next year with that type of mind set not all of us wants to play dark souls version 20
@@keithrees4755 Jesus man they never said any of that lol. Calm down. The game's combat looks lackluster even compared to Guild Wars 2, a game that released in 2012 (I played around that time). Its a valid criticism that the combat isn't up to snuff with modern MMOs.
@@Shmandalfcan i have what your smokeing then?
I'm going to remain cautiously optimistic as while feature-wise I love almost everything I've seen so far but the character animations, particle effects, and many of the textures look awful. This is still in alpha and so I'm expecting all of these things to be improved upon and polished and I cant wait to see what it looks like when it reaches a beta phase.
I know its beating a dead horse, but all design comes later. The base is good enough to test out things, the important thing is developing the "backend" of the systems. If they feel like they completed the backend and all the systems, they can spend 6 months squashing bugs and focusing most of the workforce towards design.
Yes, the game won't look like black desert's "glossy" look, its not mean't to. Its a mix of World of Warcraft, Lineage 2, Archeage and including cooler particle effects and lighting, but its won't be focusing on the "next level" design, and I prefer it that way.
Im confused on why people think it looks awful but yet all the games people are playing MMO wise are worse than this...and this is in Alpha. Im honestly dont understand, maybe I have a monkey brain.
Honestly I feel like visually the game looks amazing at this stage so I'm a bit confused at this comment.
@@Leiloni I get the comment. The spell effects looked like place holders, which they might very well be. But as OP said; Im here for the mechanics of the world.
@@whoaskedyoutolookatthis idk black desert looks awfull aswell, low res textures, No to super bad Distance LODs and pop ins, oh lawd the pop ins, its just good at applying a T H I C C layer of postprocessing Shader ontop of it to make it look "nice".
I'm fairly confident that unless Ashes development takes an unexpected turn, it's not going to break any ground worth mentioning.
I never understood the hype either. How is it not as generic as any other mmorpg of the era?
@@peterlovis520 There'll be some features, but that's standard. They all try and do some of those, but I have seen very little in the way of rethinking all the things that needs to change to evolve the genre, even as numerous and obvious as they are. The project smacks of dilettantism. Some rich guy was bummed by the fate of his favourite MMORPG, which BTW wasn't very good, and decided to make his own version. He surrounded himself with industry yes people who will smile and go through the motions as long as the pay comes in, but he doesn't _really_ know what he's doing. Added to that it will be PvP centric, and we know how marginal those audiences tend to be in the long run. There's a LOT of unanswered questions in that design too. And finally he seems content with the idea that if he likes it, that's all that matters. *Shrug* I can't imagine that this will be a relevant game to the vast majority of players who are waiting for the genre to get shook up.
Its not about "revolutionary ground breaking" . Jesus fukeee, chill out. Gamers with their "give me" . Nobody owes you anything. You either like and play what you see or dont.
Agreed. I am only vaguely familiar with this project and all through this otherwise excellent video I was thinking, "Isn't this just replicating what has already been done?" And limiting those large plots is going to turn some players off. If they want it and are not able to obtain it, then why will they play as there is nothing all that unique to keep them interested? And even for those that do have them, so what? The game is still just another version of games they have played before and are not playing now. ;-) LOL
@@QualeQualeson I sure hope we are wrong and this is the next big thing but I just dont see anything new at all
I'd actually love if they didn't change the spell effects too much or at least kept them to be more minimal, even though they aren't this massive spectacles by themselves I think they actually look great when in group fights cause you can actually see other players spells and not just one big glob of colour.
couldnt agree more its even more impactful being that this game is supposed to be pvp centric screen clutter in pvp is awful
8:00 Inventory management is the single most important thing in an MMO and this looks annoying as hell. It needs to be super accessible to everyone of every level of skill. Leave the micro to activities, not inventory
I'm so split on this and I want to test it.. There was aspect of arguments that Steven said which I did agree on. Which is after someone kills you, then it shouldn't be quick grab and go, make that process annoying to make it take longer
There is also possibility of a timer before you are allowed to loot the body I guess.
Don't know which system I would find the most annoying over
@@T3FAT It just gives me gamer-ptsd when I see something that reminds me of Star citizen inventory with annoying clicking and dragging. If something can be done to not disrupt the experience but keep it balanced, like the timer you brought up, and keeping it like a more normal experience, then I'd be happy
@@akaviral5476 I'm certain you can move items from container to inventory fast with the usual controls like double click or shift click/ctrl click. There will also be auto sort, you wont have to do all the tetris shit. It also isn't like this for the main inventory, its only for the resource inventory. Many people do enjoy this kind of inventory, look at DayZ and Tarkov for example.
I hope my great-greatchildren are alive to see this game launch
It will be tough to choose between this and Star Citizen, for sure!
What MMO have you seen (that is any good) be developed in less time? People need to stop being parrots and repeating this. You want a crap game that was made quickly, is that what you’re saying? There are tons of them out there, go play some.
@@Sk1ndredd Nothing in my comment suggested that I want them to rush this
keep in mind for the node/freeholds, if your city/node battles an invader and loses, you lose everything. At least thats how they advertised it. This is to increase participation in large scale pvp battles, because if you have a house/freehold youd def wanna join in on the defense to make sure your side wins so it isnt torn down to be made available for the victors of the node war
You lose your mats. Any progress you made with building up your freehold will be returned to you so you can place it back again when you get a freehold again.
"If everyone has a freehold... no one does"
"...I'm not sure that's how that wor-"
"shushushushush shush."
insp.
- 8:30 - how do we best disguise an 'instance' within the world? {we dont want players to recognise that were an instance begins and where it ends}. NPC activity? environment blending(visible or invisible borders/barriers between differing environment?)
I think it would be nice to get an update on how the other housing is going to work, as right now people are all bent out of shape because freeholds are “too exclusive”, and the text update Intrepid put out after that stream was nice, but more details would help imo
There are other types of housing other than Freeholds. Freeholds were always meant to be very exclusive and focused on production.
@@myaps1859 I understand that, but what those “other methods” are has never been detailed, and rarely even mentioned. It would be nice to get some info on them, as the audience for that content will be MUCH larger than will ever get a freehold.
Within cities there will be instanced apartments and some in-world city housing plots you can purchase. Freeholds are meant to be limited and something you will have to work for.
@@Nevario1 cool. How much will they cost? At what stage of the node will they be available? How much room will they have? What will be possible in them, compared to the freeholds? What do they look like? See what I mean?
@@CimarbYeah. I fully agree the exclusivity is nice, but I worry about the chonks who play all day having a freehold and getting massive boons from it while others get an apartment or something thats just for playing the sims decorating
the main issue I can see with real space player housing is the big merchant guilds who do nothing but farm money all day every day snapping up an entire server's worth of land and just sitting on it... It's an unfortunate reality that with finite space comes demand and, knowing FF14 like I do... people will quit if they can't get their houses.. I would like if we could also get an ESO style system of instanced housing too.. maybe an expandable plot of instanced land kinda like the island sanctuary?
Excited to see the progress on freeholds and life skills. These systems are what we’ll keep me coming back for years to come if done right
my copium is that once they're not pushing so hard to make all the systems they'll go back and really fine-tune the specifics of speed and what the abilities themselves do, because it feels like they're just trying to show that the system is there, rather then that it's complete if that makes sense
Firstly, do the people who pre-order the alpha 2 access also get the completed game (when it is) and is it worth spending over 70 quid for un unfinished game?
really enjoying these, thankyou for the updates, always fun seeing the progress they make
Each time they do another showcase, my hype fades same amount.
lol can’t blame you
There's no need to be hyped, just intrigued. I don't get this stupid mentality...
looking forward to see some interesting mechanic like fishing in AA wish i believed i spent over 400 hours of my 1k hours of play time. one of the most welldone fishing mechanic in MMO in my opinion. the mini game, carrying the actual fish rather than just in your inventory, a boat with a tank to physically put the actual fish in and see it swimming in it. its as realistic as it can get in a game
I recall this game has been in development for 5-6 years at least, yea one day closer to 2030. It baffles me as to how many people gave so much money and waiting for it till they can play it on their death bed
5-6 years is not considered long for mmo development. 7 years is the average and most of them flop. So them taking another 2 years is reasonable.
Small correction;
the milky way will collide and fuse with the Andromeda galaxy before we get consumed by Sagittarius A* (the black hole in the center of the milky way) so the devs have a bit more time before we get consumed
Ah a Ashes video from peon. You know the copium drip is real... Should've waited for the next one though! Nodes!
AoC is getting closer, only 653 days until Alpha 2.
I agree with live freeholds can be something you have to work for. That said, I don't think that it is a good idea to just "nope" all the casual players. Just make instanced freeholds a thing that the other players can achieve.
I still say that the choice to neglect PvE is a bad one. Every excuse mentioned has a good fix but they don't want to even consider it. I just hope I'll be able to play the game. It looks so good. I'm also worried about the housing... If we are putting all the time and work into it but a neighboring city over takes us, do we just up and lose all of it...?
Where are they neglecting PvE?
@@Babayugah theyve come out and said they refuse to have any major focus on PvE for years.
@@TemplePate01 They never said that, they said it was a PVX game for years.
@@TemplePate01 There's actually a lot of PvE in this game, it just also has the risk of PvP alongside it.
@@TemplePate01 Wanna link me a quote or something of them saying this? Been following very closely for 3years and have heard nothing of the sort.
Thanks for the update. Kind of mixed feelings on this. The combat seems to have completely gone away from the 50/50 action to tab target they talked about a long time ago, seems like it's pretty much fully tab target at this point.
I'm gonna give the game a go, if free holds are out of my reach I'll end up moving on though, as that is by far the biggest thing that interests me.
This is largely because I don't really play mmos because I don't ever feel a part of the world so I lose interest.
To this day the only MMO I played for a long period was called The Saga of Ryzom (later changed to just Ryzom), and it was because I made a difference in the game because the population was low, so my arrival on battlefields was always of note. It made it fun because I actually mattered within the world.
Onyl whales get housing plots in this game. It's like IRL
hell yeah this is like lineage 2 all over again i was sitting on the fence about AOC but now after seeing this footage i now want to try out AOC when it gets fully released ty mr Peon for wanting to show this
What I want to know about this game is the "progress". For some reason I don't like reaching endgame in a "week" or a "month" in RPG games while start grinding endlessly afterwards. This may be due to the fact that the RPGs that impressed me the most were the old RPGs and they definitely had some slow progress.
It needs to be done correctly tho or it kills newer playerbase. If you have to wait months to do endgame content and you dont have an extremely valid alternative (example, raids for lower levels with forced mechanics so max level players cant just come and oneshot the bosses or an enforced "max level gear for this instance") you get bored really fast.
As someone who was most exited about freehold I am sad to see the direction they decided to take with it. They are aming to have 50K players per server - 10k at launch - and only low thousands of freeholds and since you will have to get to levl 50 first and then compete agains other players and most importantly guilds to get one... well even if I am more hardcore player I cant make enough coins to bid agains guilds (also I really dont want to rush levl 50) so I am afraid that guilds will own almost all freeholds and there is no way anyone will be able to stop them. In a greater scheme of things that also means I wont be able to have access to best processing so there goes my plans to be best breeder in my Node.
That warning aggro system is actually not that uncommon, I'm pretty sure even WoW has it, I've definitely seen it in LotRO and other old MMOs. It's just not a very noticeable feature most of the time
I know better than to approach a giant tarantula.
the mechanic is in other games yeah, but mobs usually dont have a unique animation for it so its kinda neat
yea i think it was in a game or two i played but they dont have an animation which is nice , is it game changing no but its appreciated ngl
Really? I played all these games and i never noticed it, or at the very least, not clearly.
@@theGn0rpyea cuz mobs will just look at you instead of having a unique animation and slowly going towards you so u probably never noticed
Oh man I'm so excited, only another 50 years and I can finally play this badboy
The curse of open development is that people think game development speeds up. It takes so much more than 98% of the community understands.
Not sure about 98% of the community lmfao. I think closer to 96% maybe even 95%.
I bought the pre order pack back in 2018. It’s been a long ride
I really wish this game will succeed, truly I really do, but every time I look at the combat...its just...its bad, there is basically no chance this game can hook me to invest time in it with that combat. I would probably try it out as there are a lot of systems that makes me curious to try it and the world in it looks decent, but I would probably get bored very quick.
In the beginning of the video, where the Wizard skills are shown...it felt like I watched Aeon remastered or some combat from a 2010 game at best...it is just not enough, maybe it will get better as this is just the Alpha version, if this is the final version of the combat...I really wish them luck in gaining and retaining a big amount of players.
@@Mike-wu7ie I did not say the quality of the overall game is bad, I actually believe its good, but the combat is the weakest point in the game(by far), again its not necessarily how the combat looks... as in its not flashy enough etc, it seems slow, clunky, outdated, not fluid at all...just bad, in my opinion at least.
Also the game is not even out yet, imagine how the current combat of the game will look like in 3-5 years from now...compared with other games.
By the time it launches. The game would be due for a graphics overhaul which would probably take another 10 years.
My main issue so far, is that combat looks unimpactful. I dont feel that spells impact the target. It lacks the punch, dunno how to explain it better. Also I expected elements such as Ice to look more realistic on UE5, but it looks more like in League of Legends or something.
I agree. Dragon Nest mage spells look much better, and that's an old ass MMO by Nexon...
My main concern with this game is that the enemies look to be extremely tanky. I prefer enemy difficulty be more about how much damage they do to you and more complex attacks. Being a powerful wizard who takes 5 minutes to kill a flower is a little immersion breaking and unfun.
I think part of it is they want to encourage grouping.
The characters were level 15. Max is 50.
team game, not a solo focused MMO, but you guys will have plenty to do
i personally LOVE the tankiness, random mobs actually feel like an encounter now. It only starts to get annoying when you get aggroed by random mobs every minute.
I like how you can park the mounts instead of them randomly disappearing
Im registered and waiting for this game before crowdfunding. I got so excited since day 1, but I never imagined I will have to wait sooooo long :d Cant wait
Just wanted to correct you in regards to crafting bench on the freehold, Highest level crafted equipment can only be done in city nodes, however freehold can make the highest level processed goods (aka ingots, lumber and so on which goes into the crafted items)
So you want to buy resources from node caravan it back to freehold to refine it to bring back to the city to sell or craft
wow the game looks you know ok. I didnt know maybe I expected more.
It looks ok now imagine how bad it will look when it's out in 15 years
This is why I see the Freehold being limited being okay;
- Everyone in effect can get player housing, can be part of a Guild with a Guild Castle. Freeholds are just that next level.
- People who will be most likely to not only obtain one, but get the most use and fun will be Life Skillers/Non combat activity PVE leaning players. Why not give them an advantage for once?
- But it's not a disadvantage to everyone else. WHY? Because if you have to use their facilities, I'm sure they'll be more than willing to allow you to for a price, or even free. So you can add some more dimensions to the overall economy.
- I'm a PVP guy, I'm happy to pay you to use your facilities in-between fighting a bunch of other players all the time. Or even hang out and admire it.
i honestly think the combat system looks fine but there has to be some kind of serious decision-making when it comes to pressing an ability. Of course everyone prefers different combat layouts, but i do really enjoy a more laid back, relaxed, but more punishable system. im definitely curious about AoC. good video :)
I just want to know if we get to claim any open land or territory we choose. I want to find the most remote mountain sanctuary and carve it out with my bare digital hands if I can.
Don't understand why people are so hyped for this game. Looks about the same as most other MMOs out right now. Oh and its still using a tab target system in 2023 lol
By the time this comes out, they'll be updating to unreal 10..... I've seen this for so many years. I feel like I've already played it.
The combat still looks very clunky and dated. I guess this isn't quite where they want it to be yet. The skill effects are both too bright and low res at the same time. The cleric ones look better than the mage ones so I hope they update mage's skill effects. They can be flashy but not blinding but these skills are approaching blinding territory. They need to put as much effort into the combat system as they did with the environmental assets and graphics. Combat will be what keeps people playing.
This comment will probably rustle a few jimmies, but you are absolutely right. I see comments praising the heck out of the combat and I'm just like: this looks bad, really bad (for modern standards).
And then there is people saying the effects aren’t flashy enough
I hope the mount system in the game will be the same or better than Guild Wars 2's Mount system.
I'm missing something, the game doesn't have any memorable style. I hope it will change in the future, but it's so generic.
i agree
it will flop
Guys, if you want this game to succeed but don't like the combat, please head over to their forum and express your dissatisfaction there. Because right now, the few fanboys of an unreleased game are very vocal and they never criticize the devs.
The freehold system is just another reason why i think this game won't be as big as everyone wants it to be. I would love to see it be a massive hit but some of the systems are just going to turn people off to it. In my opinion, they should have done similar to what Dark Age of Camelot did with their housing system, which is nothing like garrisons in WoW
Why would the freehold system be the reason it wont be popular?
@@theGn0rp Because people like to be able to take part in the features they are paying to be developed. I'm actually starting to agree more and more as I see more of the game, the game is going to be dead on arrival like New World if for no other reason than open pvp. Free holds are just another reason not to buy the game if you can't no life the game. There's no reason you can't have a kind of phased Freehold system where if you own one in an area you see your own but if you don't own one you see whoever is the highest level or a party members if in a party. restricting players ability to use features of your game is never a good business decision.
@@tgamer1510 Except it is, exclusivity is rewarding the people who worked hard. If everybody just got participation trophies, what is the point in competition? If you want everyone to have equal access to everything, you're better off playing Stardew valley or animal crossing. You dont have time to grind for a freehold? No problem, just settle for less and buy an instanced apartment, nothing wrong with that, you can still do literally everything else in the game and it makes next to zero difference.
@@theGn0rp I would agree with you, IN THEORY it should be how you are saying. But it's not the reality in my experience, the majority of players want everything, if you say "No" to them or "you have to work VERY hard for it" they won't be like "OOOH, THAT'S NICE, SOMETHING TO WORK ON!", they will just drop the game. Take a look at the percentile of players that play the most hardcore content in mmo, is always single digit. Take a look at the most successful mmorpg, everyone can get almost everything.
Also if you take the mmorpg as a genre you will see that where most players caters are stuff like crafting, housing, fashion hunting e stuff like that, not raid or dungeons, and will be the same in AoC... But then you have system like the freehold that players would want to get into but can't. And we are talking big numbers, most of the players.
It's not like having an hard mode of a raid that only 5% get to play, who cares? A minority of players play raids. Housing is way bigger than this. More players are involved.
I'm not saying the game is going to be DoA or anything like that. I'm saying there will be people who work hard for it but won't be able to get a freehold due to it being limited. It's not about being given a participation trophy either, some people like to experience all aspects of a game they are playing
Getting closer = 8 years - 1 month
This game looks like it would have been a blast to play...in 2012
i totally agree with the limit of housing space, very immersive and motivates you to fight for your own place and prestige, love it
we're almost there boys
just a few more years until 2035
so funny and original, did you think of that joke yourself?
Those cleric skills look stunning! And love the bunny mounts :3 - I really do not have the funds to coinflip a beta/alpha rn so thank you for covering this game!
ya, but the more i learn at the same time.. this game seems like it will cater to people who love to grief on top of HARDCORE players
doesnt seem casual friendly at all ha
So far so good but please don't make us manage materials in the inventory... Noone likes to manage materials, it would be a lot better if we had an infinite material tab.
Please don't mix RPGs. I do get this feedback to Diablo 4 which is grindy and solo grind (Lost Ark vs Diablo 4 debate right?). But this is a bad argument for a MMORPG like AoC which is different type of game. Because it's building around community and world economic systems. For example infinite material tabs would make the caravan system obsolote, something that been there since day 1.
Even though I agree I'm bit sceptic of how the materials being managed right now, and their arguments around it. But it doesn't feel right now, but got to try it before complaining to much. But I'm open for another suggestions
You can just autosort it, the whole reason is to make it so players can't horde the resources that feed the Caravan system and just bypass it entirely.
@@DoingFavors make it weight-based then but on normal inventory slots, I dont want to play inventory tetris 😅
for everyone who didnt know the developpers stated that alpha 2 preorder pack of september will be the last one so i think its realistic to say alpha 2 launches at some point in the winter
This might be an unpopular opinion, but the toned-down spell effects appeal to me as they increase visibility. The world however looks too procedural with no distinguishable landmarks and the monsters feeling out of place.
Still waiting to see what the end-game boss fight looks like mechanic-wise, as this will probably be the make or break for me.
The world is still being built out but that being said, most of the streams where they show gameplay, the gameplay happens at unique, distinguishable landmarks and they talk about them and the lore of these locations at length (and most of these locations also have specific story arcs that happen there as well).
thats not an unpopular opinion tho
ALPHA lmao
I agree with the spell effects, but to me the world looks really amazing! Idk if you've followed all their livestreams but there's many landmarks already in the game. There also needs to be room for boring large forests and empty fields of grass and flowers. If you fill everything up its gonna be cluttered and non-immersive. Also what i love so far about the game, is that they dont have a PNG skybox background.. everything you can see in the distance (mountains, hills, volcanoes etc.) you can ACTUALLY get to.
@@DoingFavors The best point in development to give feedback. 😜
@TheLazyPeon Can you play as a completely non combat character, for example a farmer, blacksmith, etc?
I feel like this game is going to fail and mark the death of MMOs. The combat is awful, and all the "immersive" stuff will get annoying in a few weeks (like New World storage locked in cities). I'm not a hater, but sometimes the playerbase really don't know what they really want.
If it even comes out.
Seen it happen too many times. I’ve spent thousands of hours on Guild Wars 2, and I see no reason to play anything else. I’m not for the “immersion”
I’m for the games that can get me on and off quickly thoughout my busy life. That’s what Guild Wars 2 offers.
In your opinion.
@@_Diktator of course it's my opinion, never said it otherwise.
the combat is mostly fine. it's mainly lacking the bells n whistles. If you actually dig in to what makes a combat system... it's not that complicated conceptually(or even mechanically really). BDO for example is just a combo spam and using player orientation for ability direction. It has its pro's n con's.
Archeage's combat system was plenty good for tab-target imo (technically hybrid), and AoC is heavily inspired by Archeage (like, incredibly. even the story beginning is similar).
This'll be one of those MMOs we all look forward to, get really hyped about..... then it'll do something really lame to just kill it for 99% of people.
I'm too old now to get hyped over MMOs, we get a good one once every 10 years...
aoc seems legit looks really solid so far
Exactly what I'm after, thanks! Look forward to the next one. PS: also v jel of life in Thailand, what a great move
They really need to work on their spell visual effect... Or they are just placeholder now in the development stage?
Placeholders to launch Alpha 2, polishing will come later, its not a main focus atm.
Looks like a mobile game
Can you advice me what to play like i play almost all the time Silkroad Online which i couldn't find in your Videos but when you check it out do you think there is something similar
Nah
Graphically it looks great, but the animations and movement for walking etc just needs to be completely redone. They do not look or feel good.
Aw cmon this is just more of the same old clone.
Doing research is hard kekW
I actually have no complaints about the combat. You may rate it a 6 or 7 / 10 but I think that's more to do with the flashy, visual, fast paceness that people might expect from like a BDO but what makes combat fun for me is the focus on fast pace decision making by the developers.
Take a game like FFXIV in the late game with raiding... You really need to have a good grasp on your cool downs, what each ability does, timing with your other group members, timing with boss mechanics, and positioning to master class. So really, combat ratings should add that extra category and tbh BDO would absolutely fail in that regard. Sure it's flashy and mobile but it's so grindy. It's all about big damage and killing things that are just auto attacking you in mass, but that gets very boring, very quickly.
Ashes has already shown that they want you to memorize each encounter and plan accordingly. That is what breeds longevity in an MMO.
tab targetting game in todays age is just laughable and the fun part is the game is not even out yet
nah
the difference between action vs tab is like... 1 mechanical difference. it's how it's built is what matters.
Archeage was tab target but it had mobility, fluid combo's and low cooldown times.
When people ask for action, I sometimes wonder what that even means. BDO? it's combo spam that uses player orientation to determine where abilities go. It's just the sfx and animations carry it.
Cool thing about Blink is you can go backwards without facing backwards.
Ashes of COPIUM
This game just doesn't look good. Those animations are straight up abysmal and worse than mobile games-levels of bad. It seriously looks like one of those early access survival games on Steam that are using stock/bought Unreal assets.
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@@Mike-wu7ie doesn't it? I'm surprised people think it looks AAA or even good. This looks thrown together af to me.
Its not even close to the graphic effects of BDO at its lowest setting. This game graphics are more par with 2013 graphics. Only 10 years behind
This game is actually trash. I don't know why everyone hypes it up, it's going to be dead game 2 months after release. This game just ain't it.
Bec. its finally no themepark mmo. It looks decent even in an alpha status...looks rly like daoc at some part and some people will love that ;) If you don t like it sure np, just search for another mmo you like.
ok
Combat looks terrible, graphics look 10 years out of date, gameplay looks like it's themed off of BDO/ESO. There just really is no reason to move from games like BDO, ESO or World of Warcraft to play this as a long term game. It's one of those play a month and dump it type of games. As much as I would love to see that "wow killer", this game just isn't that. @@dmsephiroth
@@somerandy3062 Your opinion! i rly like the graphic and gameplay. Not every MMO(RPG)must be a a super +fastpaced+ mmo like modern mmos pal. Some people LIKE slower combat and other graphic styles. UE 5 does look rly nice. Did you see the video bout the change of seasons? its rly beautiful :) im looking forward that this game will be polished more!
You ain't that guy PAL.@@dmsephiroth
I don't know why people are so optimistic about this. Looking at class design, and skill design, I get the distinct impression these devs have never even played the popular mmos such as: WoW, FFXIV, BDO, much less more obscure mmos that had genuine good class design. They seem to be relying entirely on second hand knowledge from Lineage2 and Archeage.
If we buy an access to the beta tests via page for 75$, does it mean we have it still or only for a period of time?
Appreciate the update vid with your thoughts! I have been following this game off and on for a few years now, and things look like they are taking more shape for a release. Do we have a general expectation for release at this point?
Idk im still not hyped of this game.. alot of question marks in my mind
also it feels like based on party play only or idk how you lvl with a healer if you dont have any dmg spell? or im crazy?
And this freehold thing?what's the benefit for solo players how they play this game not everyone like to group up ..
You don't actually have to play Tetris within the inventory system. There is an auto-sort function.
I hope the ranger has a cloak/invisibility. Turn into The surroundings around you like a bush or a tree. That would be awesome
one thing they need to focus on the most is OPTIMIZATION and future proofing the engine.
they are working for years, they will work on it for another few years. for a game to stay relevant and good, it needs to be architected well enough.
espeically with AI today, i hope they can do something with that power or talk about it what they can do with it for this game and how would they use it.
they just need this game to run smoothly as possible on every preset level for given specified card and thats it, it's gonna be great.
but yea, there is so much new stuff coming and getting bettered, they need to think about that to stay relevant, they probably will stay relevant regardless because it's not a bad game at all, but developing a game with future in mind will actually give players better incentive and other people that havent tried it yet to be a good game to play and invest and spend time on.
Have you gotten to try fishing? I am reading you can craft fishing boats...Sport fishing in Archeage was the greatest thing ever honestly. Sure hope it exists in this game!
We're at the point now where I'm checking my Email a few times a week for stress test invite. I Know we're probably still at least a few months away but it only takes a few seconds to check and I'm not missing the first one I get an invite too.
Not sure how to feel about freeholds...
If u have one and want to keep it YOU HAVE to pay your monthly fee (no pause) or you loose it.
Ingame rent 😂
Ofc, otherwise people will buy land in the game and when they quit the game, it will stay there forever and no one else can access it. In-game rent is pretty common, politics and economy is often what makes MMO's. If you don't like those things, you should probably stick with FPS games or simpleminded RPGs like roguelites.
Part of me thinks this is the next Star Citizen in perpetual development.
Lets be honnest idk if this was said before but the gameplay and graphics are light years away from wut bdo offers.
whats the realistic time it goes live, or alpha test for public to use?
i'm so friggin hyped about AoC!!
please please PLEASEEE be amazing!