Toyota Celica GT-Four ST-205 - Legendary Turbo Cheat
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024
- There are a lot of legendary standouts in the history of racing and cheating, but the one I’d like to geek out with you over today is the Toyota Team Europe Turbo Celica cheat of 1995.
On one hand, it was piece of brilliant engineering but on the other hand it embodied the desperation that TTE was in to make latest Celica competitive. Toyota forced the team to use Celica as a base for their programme, even though car was not ideal for the purpose.
Toyota has some of the best engineers in the world. Every car is inspected before the rally by by the governing body to make sure that the restrictor plate is installed. Toyota engineered a way to allow air in to the turbo intake that completely bypassed the seals around the restrictor. Additionally when the car was moving and the turbo was engaged, the restrictor plate would be moved back a couple of inches completely nullifying the effect of the restrictor plate. Some of the best judges and techs had gone over the car to make sure cheating like this were not taking place. In fact, the engineering was so good that when the turbo was disassembled post-race for inspection, judges couldn’t find any evidence that extra air had passed through the turbo. Toyota had manufactured special springs and clips that would move the restrictor plate back from the air intake, but when the turbo was disengaged the springs would pop it back in to position making it appear that everything was as per the FIA rules.
Max Mosley, the president of the FIA at the time said this: “Inside it was beautifully made. The springs inside the hose had been polished and machined so not to impede the air which passed through. To force the springs open without the special tool would require substantial force. It is the most sophisticated and ingenious device either I or the FIA’s technical experts have seen for a long-time. It was so well made that there was no gap apparent to suggest there was any means of opening it.”
This gave the car an estimated 25% extra air coming in to the turbos, which added an 50 BHP. In the group A period the cars were restricted to 300bhp but most teams ran more power. The FIA quickly moved to ban TTE. Toyota lawyered up, but they were eventually banned for the rest of the 1995 and 1996 season.
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The Celica GT-FOUR has always been a dream car of mine. Every iteration of it, since I was 10 back in 93'.
Grab one while you can. Rust seems to have claimed many of them.
@wimmj6952 yeah, it's definitely hard to find one that's in between rust bucket and six figures. Hopefully I'll track down the right one. Been looking for years now. One that's pretty much rust free, but isn't perfect. Just a solid project. Might have to import one from Europe/Asia/Australia/South America. Probably Asia, but hopefully I can find one locally that's hiding in a garage.
@@DM-wp9vq If I can find one then Its usually JDM import
@skylineXpert exactly! I've been looking at Caldina wagons that are 4wd/awd, & I think they're turbocharged as well. A Celica GT_Four is a pipe dream anymore, but I'm keeping an eye out for one at all times. Plus numerous other dream cars. Like a 76' Corolla SR5 Liftback, since my family had a new one that they bought off the lot & it was gorgeous. A really nice blue with black trim
@@DM-wp9vq took almost 4 years to find mine. Only way id sell it is if i could find a cs/rc. Managed to find one at 90k miles rust free unmodded. Possibly one of the last ones still floating around out there
15 minute video with a quick 5 second blurb about the the actual tech of the turbo cheat.
Quite entertaining and insightful, nonetheless
And that's not even how the system works.
I wish I read this before wasting time watching it.
I do love a good cheating story but I would have liked more details on how the moving turbo inlet worked.
There’s plenty of technical videos on it on YT. People have a hard time explaining and understanding the cheat. Even the techs were amazed.
When you clamp it down washer thingys compress and push up on another part opening an airflow path around the perimeter of the restrictor funnel between the outer casing and the restrictor
Very simply, there were washers in the intake restrictor that worked as a cantilever when they were squeezed.
When you tightened the hose clamp, the washers pivoted on the housing and levered the restrictor forward, which allowed air to travel around the outside of the restrictor and in behind it. Bypassing the restrictor allowed the engines more air. More air means more power.
It’s a difficult concept to explain, much more easily demonstrated. But essentially, when you tightened the intake hose clamp around the turbo, it pushed down on a washer that moved along a ramp which pivoted the restrictor forward.
RUclips comment sections are full of people claiming to know how the cheat worked. I don't believe any of them, since I've yet to see anyone adequately explain it. So far it's nothing but a load of dilettantes thinking that they can look like experts if they just mention 'belleville washer" and "hose clamp".
Brilliant explanation @@inz1
I like how sportsmanlike they were when it came to the cheating. They did punish them for it of course but also complimented them on doing it so ridiculously well. It's kind of interesting to see that combination of respect and judgment.
Id like to see the actual rule book. The restructor was there so there might not have been reason in the book to penalty them.FIA has history of unlawful penalties on new invetions.
Man. I think Toyota deserves a medal for innovation 😂
Choosing to use Colin McRae Rally's OST as BGM to this video was really clever and fit perfectly.
I knew it but couldnt place it. Thnx 👍🏻
Nice video! Rally cars has the real anti-lag pops. These days street cars attempts to replicate but sound synthetic.
10:47 the rest of the footage looks surprisingly high quality and modern but this moment broke the fourth wall for me
They’re just playing Nintendogs on the ds
Sega Rally Championship
I'm been 10 years Sega Champion!.. 🏆🏆
Dam.. I don't remember Collin crashing in the helicopter.. Man I loved watching him race. R.I.P. bud. 🙏💪
I wish motorsports (both WRC and DTM) went back to requiring homologation models.
That gave us the most epic cars of all time. Like the Celica GT-4, Impreza 555/WRX-STi, Delta Integrale, but also the BMW E30 M3 and the Mercedes 190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II
Epic roadcars with true motorsports heritage.
Most FIA sanctioned racing still require homologation. One notable example is the GR Yaris, which is meant for Toyota's entry into WRC.
You have to admit, that was crafty as hell. No one would have known if one guy didn't turn them in.
So imagine if Group B was still around...
Looking at the WRC, the political infighting, interests, regulation violations, and balance between rules and safety in F1 is terrible.
In Japan, where discipline is very strict, Toyota's violation of WRC regulations is often discussed quite critically.
However, in Europe, the home of WRC, there are many calm opinions.
When it was reported that Toyota would return to the WRC with the Yaris, I remember that the reaction in Japan and Europe was completely different.
Fortunately, Toyota has had a successful WRC season and is now highly regarded in all countries.
I hope that the WRC will continue to spread as an exciting automobile race that will excite many fans.
Toyota didn't cheat. Facts. If a European team had innovated in the same way, it would have been happily accepted. A foreign, Japanese team though? Bring out the ban hammer.
too real
Nah that was 100% a cheat. A restrictor is supposed to restrict airflow to an exact amount, bypassing the restrictor in any way is definitely cheating.
They ban or make excuses happened in Bathurst Australia with the Nissan.
Wasn't Japanese team. It was German. TTE
@@timwoodruff7906 You beat me to it.
While it may've been cheating, that air restrictor bypass was a work of engineering genius!
Awesome video!
With this quality, you'll sure get far! Keep it up!
That Eddie Murphy commerical?! Hahaha no wayy
Toyota had a long absence in WRC since that fatal stop in Wales by Sainz. After 18 years they returned in 2017 and been WRC since 2018 to 2023. They've developed the GR Yaris from WRC for WRC and it's selling like hot cakes
Loved my st205. Insanely over engineered. Few tweaks to reduce understeer.. huge fun in the snow. Not that we get much in the UK
great video, can you make a detailed Galant VR4 and early Evo history?
Wrx width 67.1 inches wheelbase 99.2 inches
Celica width 68.9 inches
Wheelbase 99.9 inches
I doubt the dimensions had that much of an effect. Was probably just a better chasis/suspension and AWD technology. Considering those are the areas that in the end made Group A cars faster than Group B cars.
Its crazy how very different the two cars feel.
Not a perfect comparison but my stock st185 changes directions in a very different manner than any of my subarus, 05sti 06spec b, 96 leggy w v7 jdm sti running gear. To me and my driving style the subarus are much more grip and go and the st185 is much happier with the rear rotating. The st185 “feels” much more nimble but the subarus tend to grip just a bit harder and quicker out of corners.
Just my experience. Hopefully adding an early evo to my fleet soon for even more compare/contrast
@@guitarguymi yea but the overhangs were longer. Similar case with Peugeot 205 T16 and Audi Quattro
Great video! Well presented, fantastic clips. Well earned sub.
Cheating is a part of all sport and games. Not so that it's approved, but it will always take place due to human nature.
I had a 91 Celica GTS it was the best handling car I think I've ever had
I wanted more info on the turbo. Finding a new and alternate way to get more air while following other technical aspects and limitations is not cheating. Why didn't they outlaw 4wd in the early years? Was that not the same type of advantage?
Best documentary 👏 🙌
When non Asian companies did something, they said it's innovative or something good for the future. But if it's Asian companies, CHEAT, UNFAIR, all the negativity shoots towards them.
Didn't pronounce one car brand/model correctly.
Except Lancia
As a german, he definitly pronounced Audi correctly...
He says Toyota correctly and celica
it's just pronunciation, you angry man
Doesn't matter how people pronounce it.
I usually drive a suburban. I rented a 2024 Camray . The difference was like night and day.
Stops on a dime. It was the fastest car I ever drove. It had three ways to shift gears.
Keep your elbows locked on your legs, hands on the wheel, and use paddles under the wheel. It fish tails on wet pavement. Don't try to figure out the computer/radio on the dashboard. When it goes past 110mph, it shimmy shakes. ...
It is made for short, skinny people. Getting out is like Alan Shepherd getting out of Freedom 7.
I had to elbow my way up and out from inches above the pavement . Not for chubs
Of course it's night and day... you're talking an SUV that weighs a thousand pounds or more. The center of gravity is lower in the Camry.
Also, if you're "fishtailing", you probably need better rubber. Keep in mind, it's a rental car.. so they're not going to buy top of the line tires.
Was looking to buy a GT 4 in 2005. Couldn't find a single one in decent nick!
Subaru also put anti lag on their turbos
If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying! 😂
Mitsubishi and subaru was put in the wrc for rome time now, I hope we see a japanese rivalry again with toyota, subra and mitsubish in rally
So, according to the actual rules, was the bypass actually illegal?
yes, the restrictor was meant to be a fixed piece- toyota team europes restrictor was not
10:24 Colin McRae Rally 2.0 theme starts playing
I thought I recognised it!
How they manage to drive those cars at these roads at such pace...
Oh What a feeling....
I never complained about poor visibility in my Celica, those whiners.
You were probably looking out the windscreen not the side window! :0)
This exactly ST-205 Toyota cheated with is in Norway, in a Motorsport store called Kollevold AS. They are on facebook and Instagram. I got to give it some revs outside the shop, amazing sound!!! They have a video of that posted.
colin crash..... aged like milk
He had balls down to his knees and loads of natural talent
I hope you like feedback...
This felt more like a Wikipedia article about Group A than a story about a motorsports controversy. Where's the passion? Feels like it's not your wheelhouse. Like, who are you and what do you have to do with rally? Why should I care what you have to say, regardless of how well researched and edited the video is? I clicked for a story, not a collection of random rally facts. I could just ask AI if I wanted that. If I was new to motorsport I would've found this video very informative, but still not telling an engaging story. Not sure what you're trying to do here, maybe try talking to some fanatics or people who were somehow involved with the topic and really dig in next time. OR instead of making a CELICA GT-FOUR CHEAT video, make a video focused on Group A Rally in general so people aren't mislead.
The description tells a more cohesive and concise story about the Celica than the video, I would've rather just read that on social media or something.
You've obviously got some talent for video making so keep it up, I'm just saying as a motorsports enthusiast what I like to see. Cheers!
Came to watch a video on the Celica, ended up watching a video on Colin McRae and his rally career and death.
Incredible machine. In Australia, we pronounce it as ...See leak a
The only reason why Audi was struggling in rally was because the Quatro was banned - because it was too good.
Great video!!!
you forgot to mention that they only discovered the cheating due to a whistleblower, which is why they initiated a thorough technical inspection
The best Rallye car 🎉🎉🎉
Interesting to note that reckless McRae kept his McCrash reputation until his dying day, sadly taking others with him, including two children.
what is this kind of dirt track racing called?
The Japanese gave the European a pound to pound heavy weight machines. The Evo, Supra, Skyline etc.
Was this cheating or finding a solution with in the rule?
Yet another helicopter crash story. Crazy
I love this video❤
RIP Collin
Ah yes, famed automobile manufacturers "Lancha" and "Puhzho"
someone should bring back group b
Only the celica St had a 1.8 l with 100hp , the Gt ,and GT-S had a 2.2 liter with 135hp . They were very competitive for their time .
Who played Sega rally championship on the Sega genesis? I use to drive that car.
Nobody. They played it on the sega saturn, because sega rally wasnt available on the genesis/md 😅
@@henrlima87 thanks for the correction.
@@sheldonthomas8773 i got you 👍
Unusual take on "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes": If they thought that those reactionary technical limitations to even the battlefield were stupid, they shouldn't have engaged in the rallye sports business.
Japanese caught cheating - Was there a self-chastizing in Japan for the disgrace?
What you are calling stages are in fact rallys.
Its always a helicopter, so many famous people meet their demise that way, i would say that colin should have left his son at home that day.
Unicorn cars
Word! Every single one of those rally cars from the early 80's up until the late 90's are dream cars!
@@DM-wp9vq i had a slow ass 90 celica gt, but i was looking for 90-97 gts awd turbo but cant find n adulterated one in socal
@@daxolivares6939Look on Cars n Bids or Bring a Trailer.
Racing should be about who can put together the best car, and best driver combination, not about which Ferrari, oops I meant team can politic the best to have rules changed to bring their competitors down to their level.
the ending video should be samir.😂😂😂
TOYOTA ❤❤❤
Title is about the celica Gt-Four....more than half the video is about colin mcrae and subaru lol
You cant beat Toyota
Should rename this video. The Celica biography. Have only watched 5mins. Bet you I have to watch 14mins 30secs, before turbo mentioned.
Sel, I , cah ???? Never heard of it.
Funny that now Toyota is one of only three manufacturers in the WRC.
Why are you using 60FPS AI interpolated footage
Hmmm. Could bet the voice is also AI.
At lest they didn’t install a full turbo kit in bumper like ford 😂
Go big or go home lol
30 seconds of the cheating story
Totally unfair - labelling a nice innovative towards cheating is unjustified
The sound of engines, talking and music is just sound overload. Please cut the music for more enjoyment of a great video.
the navigator drivr reading the diagram of deeeei race at deeei
end of diiiz vid reminds wiid e boXinnn trainr at any cornr, joooooost spitting
codes and coordinATs ....
And this is why FIA is a maffia and most people don't like motorsports. They pick and choose what manufacturers can and can't do, to penalize or help whatever manufacturer they choose. WRC and F1 are stacked with bullshit rules. I understand regulating for safety reasons (which FIA most of the times doesn't do) but everything else is just interfering with technological development and advancement. I love cars and I love races, but FIA organized motorsports are akin to comitee ruled USSR or China.
Who said toyota is slow ?? 😅
Toyota - still cheating in 2024
Loncha
Sorry, had to cut short my watching as I was cringing so hard at the mispronunciation of so many brands.
WTF is a Larncha!!
Seems like an AI voice or something..
pzzies
Sell eek a
Ye, and i've not heard Lancia pronounced that way too. 😄
@@markjones4457 Thank you. I thought it was just me!
😊😊😊
Great car
The laptop is more powerful... 10:47