Upscaling HDMI Sony RDR-VX525 DVD/VHS
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Let's go back to 2007, when VHS was becoming scarce. Sony was still making great VCRs and in this case, VCR/DVD combo units. What I like about the RDR-VX525 is HDMI output for BOTH VHS and DVD, Quasi-SVHS playback and DVD Recording.
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I have this unit (did a video when I got it) and love that it upscales the video inputs and VCR portion to HDMI. A good composite to HDMI upscaler is hard to come by. Mine didn't come with a remote either, but I like your idea with using an old Harmony remote, gotta dig mine out.
Also, back when DVD was new, VHS was commonly referred to as tape or video. Remember commercials saying "now available on Video and DVD!". I feel like calling it VHS is more common in the last 15 years or so, as we revisit it (maybe in the 80's too when Beta was around).
Dirt cheap AV2HDMI converters have been available for some time, they work well(though the actual chip inside seems to vary), though from memory I think the audio might only be mono on same.
@@DoubleMonoLR Yeah, I've been using one for years. They're very forgiving with bad signals from damaged tapes. However, the picture is kinda soft and the bright scenes tend to wash out - I remember someone telling me they use NTSC-J IRE values instead of Regular NTSC.
*This machine is amazing and can play my 100 video tapes I have in my living room plus I can watch my DVDs too* ⭐️
I wish they had made a combo VHS/Betamax with Blu-Ray Recorder Unit! then I can save the home videos I have on Beta to Disc as well. 👍
Closest I could think of afaik of is the panasonic blue ray player model 70? From 09 aka 2009 but its does have vhs, svhs?, cd, dvd and blu ray/bd possibly even "super audio" cd whatever thats good for idk never known if they even sold well or not lmao
The channel buttons are presumably for the set top box control, via the socket on the back (which presumably connects to an IR transmitter)
Hey! I still have this combo unit. My parents bought this when we got our first HDTV (a Panasonic plasma that's still in use) back in early '08 (we didn't start with Blu-rays until Christmas of that year when they got me a PS3 for my big present that year, which I mainly asked them for because of the fact that it could play Blu-rays).
Aww nostaliga convo btw did/have ya ever hear of a sony KV-32HV600 "Hi-scan" tv? Either way yah it is or at least in my exp its a great tv to have gotten to exp for 16 or so years hehe... not ti be rude its just so nostalgic yah its coolio ykwis
Just guessing, but possibly it calls VHS “Video” is because back in the day, when we went to Blockbuster or some such store, it was known as a video store (remember: Blockbuster stores were originally known as Blockbuster Video). These stores sold and rented only VHS videotapes in the years before DVDs came out-thus, VHS tapes were videos.
I think it's a Japanese thing. Maybe they omitted the "tape" word. In Japan, they leave out a lot of words out of sentences. Sometimes they say things that aren't even full sentences in our standards, but for them it's normal daily talking.
I remember the ads for home video releases. Even after DVD came out, they always said “On DVD and Video”!
..or perhaps it's because the V in VHS and VCR stands for video? Just a thought.
In the UK we tend to refer to VHS as "video". So Video tape etc. That may hint as to why there is a "video" button to select the video tape side ;)
Perhaps they picked up on it when translating.
American advertising called it “video”, even after DVD came out. “VCR” was never used in the UK for VHS, because Philips sold a system called “VCR” in Europe, back in the ‘70s.
I've got one of these combo machines in my bedroom, it's a Toshiba. It copies both ways, same as yours, however mine has a built in digital TV tuner that can be recorded on either VHS or DVD. It also copies SOME pre-recorded DVD's/VHS's. They are exelent for backing up VHS recordings of TV shows I have that aren't shown any more. (due to political correctness).
Do you know what model it is?
@@HazzaMackArchives It's a Toshiba DVR20KB.
I'm starting to wonder if the tapes that model will copy to DVD do not have Macrovision, and the tapes it won't copy have Macrovision or some other form of copy protection
I'm not sure why it will copy some pre-recorded DVDs to VHS though, maybe those DVDs either dont have copy protection on them, or the copy protection was implemented incorrectly (or it could even be that the DVDs which ask for Macrovision (DVD players can add Macrovision to their composite output if the disc asks for it) cannot be copied on it, while the discs that dont can be copied)
@@pineappleroad I hav'nt a clue. It seems to be pure chance. Of the ones I've copied, some say copy protected and some don't. (?). LOL. I bought Shrek 1&2 on VHS, (I did'nt have a DVD at the time), Shrek 3 was released on DVD only, So I bought and copied it to VHS, (and scanned the cover), to complete my set. It looks perfect.
Hook up your Laserdisc player to it. That should give a near DVD quality when you record it on DVD.
Not that easy, sadly.
@@thatguyontheright1 what do you mean?
Just picked one of these up from a thrift store for $10, it's beat up but it appears to be in working order. Thanks to you I know all I need to do to get this thing operating (hopefully). Thanks!
I super, super appreciate how thoroughly you walked through the conversion process. Thank you!
How do you feel like the conversion does quality-wise? Is there a lot of fuzz/distortion/frame drop introduced vs. the original VHS format, or is it pretty faithful to the original?
I have the Same question
Good looking machine i would remove the sponge from the auto head cleaner as iy gets old it either gets very dirty or in some cases it goes hard and can do damage to your head drum its something 12volt vids advised on one of his video,s he repaired a sony and the sponge had done some damage to the head drum so i made a point of removing mine besides on my panasonic f55 it was filthy.
I got two of these units, still in their boxes with remotes etc for $10 each at a yard sale. They looked as if they were never used. Sold one on ebay for a bundle, kept the other for myself. 8^)
Born Again Torinos *Lucky bastard*
@@afriend9428 😎
We just used to say video for vhs in northen Europe. I didnt know what vhs was until dvd came along and everybody started talking about vhs instead of video.
The format war between VHS, Betamax (and Video2000, a European tape format - for our American viewers) must have been before your time :)
Found one of these for sale locally on Craigslist. The guy is asking $10, but I have yet to hear back that it works or not. Would be a great find if its in working order.
I have the same thing from LG i also have front firewire but also a USB port at the front. Thank you for the Video.
It was interesting to me, that back in the days before DVD and all you had was VHS or BetaMax, in my particular situation, I could copy movies from VHS. My recorder of choice was a Sanyo BetaMax unit, having heard that BetaMax recorded better video. But also, the particular unit i had, the Sanyo VCR 7200, was unique in that it had no "copy protect" circuitry but would copy any tape you played on any VHS machine, thereby allowing me to make copies of Hollywood production movies. I know there were little boxes that could be bought that stripped away the "copy protect" from the video signal, and thus you could circumvent the prevention of copying, but for a machine to totally ignore the code was very interesting. I came to discover that the copy made to the Beta tape still contained the copy protect code when I tried to make a Beta copy over to a VHS. It didn't allow it. That Sanyo unit has long perished, and I still have many Beta tapes, so I had to acquire a SONY Beta hi-fi unit from e-bay. Now I play videos on my Raspberry Pi formatted as mp4. What a long strange trip it's been.
Nah there was w-vhs idk anybody that knows or cared to know that thats a thing ir even an idea or concept their interested in but since ya mentioned it theres also umatic but even for a consumer their is D-vhs which holds up to 50 gigabytes per taoe so six hours of hd or 23 hours of standard definition video and supports up to 1080i in native withiut upscaling nir upconversion and hdmi connection on the equipped models... the newest release is a movie called I-Robot featuring Will smith... actually the last major COMMERCIAL that is because you can even easily use any vhs s vhs possibly w vhs but also dvhs and on the d theater ,odels then obviously d theater so you can watch purchased major studio hollywood movies.. etc such as I-Robot, fast and the furious/fast furious whatever they call it lols.... oh and maybe zathura as well as terminator 2 etc
By the way keep in mind a maximum dvd as far as I know is 17 gigabytes as its a double layer double sided or I refer to it as a qaud/qaudruple dvd/qaud layer ie qaudruple layer even though it is essentially two double layer dvd glued together by the label side of each to eachother.
Ooh also even the snes aka super nintendo has many or most of the games capable and supporting surround sound
Wooden 480 minutes be eight hours not 14?
Common core math? As a numbers guy, I came to comments as soon as I heard that 14 hour comment.
The caption said “14 hours 28 minutes on a dual layer DVD”. Single layer was 8 hours.
VHS HiFi has such nice sound. It's PCM stereo!
KYŌDɅI KΞN - Actually no, it’s analog AFM.
@@databits Are there different VHS HiFi versions? For analog AFM it sounds really great!
*It’s fun to have surround-sound and watch Jurassic Park* ⭐️
@@kyoudaiken No all VHS Hifi machines use the same system. There is nothing intrinsically inferior to analogue. If the tape speed is high enough it can approach CD quality, and that is the trick VHS uses.
I have a VCR/DVD combo like that, but it’s not from Sony. It’s from Samsung. The Samsung DVD-VR375. And some of the on screen graphics look like those on my Samsung recorder unit.
Actually, most of the last gasp Sony VCR’s were *rebadged* Samsung ones, with just the front panel being made by Sony themselves. It was probably the first time Sony had a joint venture with Samsung, the second one being the SLCD.
2:22 Funnily enough, you could trick others in to thinking this is VIDEO input, not VIDEOTAPE deck, but this trick works better on machines that only differ from the one shown here by not sending the audiovisual inputs when in DVD mode, as well as the absence of the features that come with it (no recording to DVD, or dubbing between decks in either direction etc.)
What would happen if you dubbed a Hollywood VHS to VHS using a "black box" to defeat the Macrovision encoding and then try and copy that VHS to DVD? Is the Macrovision encoding still technically on the copy or does actually remove it therefore allowing the machine to copy that VHS to DVD?
Jeff - the black box would do the trick.
I have an LG RC199H. Which is similar to the JVC DR-MV150B you reviewed.
Which would you prefer?
I always wanted to get one of these with the built in HDD
How did you program the Harmony H628 to the Unit? I haven't been able to figure it out so far.
Thank you that was very helpful. I'm in the process of trying to convert some old VHS home videos to digital. I found one of these for sale so I decided to see how it works.
Got one from my mom's house....how did it work for you? i just plugged mine in and trying to figure out how to capture HDMI.
My dad has a magnavox that does this stuff, but it doesn't let you select the tv type, it literally stretches everything out and cuts off the top and bottom which annoys me. This unit, which i found yesterday at a flea market for 15 bucks, allows me to put in a vhs and capture the hdmi directly to my laptop in its original format. Which makes this my favorite dvd/vcr unit of all time.
Bet would copy a movie that don't has macrovision well. Movies before that was used
Do you know if it can play VHS recorded in PAL-M with color? Or only in NTSC?
why did you say it is playing an "S-VHS tape in VHS quality"? i though QSPB only meant that a player could not record to S-VHS not that the player had degraded playback of S-VHS content
Had a similar unit, but ours had an even slower mode that allowed for just one hour of recording time at very high quality, near lossless compared to the source. When they started airing Star Trek TOS remastered, that's how I recorded each episode, took me a couple years before the machine pooped out, so I just bought the blu-ray set.
The one hour setting was perfect for laserdiscs too.
It does have HQ mode which is 1 hour on a single layer and just under 2 hours on a dual layer DVD
Do you remember what VHS it was ?
This is fine video machinery, nowadays i have several Panasonic dvd-ram recorders as a daily program storage. I had to save them because they don't make dvd-ram recorders anymore
OPENING & CLOSING TO BARNEY'S IMAGINATION ISLAND VHS
OPENING
1. RANDOM HOUSE HOME VIDEO
2. CHILDREN'S TELEVISION WORKSHOP
3. BEDTIME WITH BARNEY
4. OPENING START
CLOSING
1. END CREDITS
2. THE THREE CABALLEROS TRAILER
3. Snow White AND THE SEVEN DWARFS TRAILER
4. WARNING SCREEN
I found a Sony VP-7000 in a free junk pile in great condition... But have no idea how to test it LOL (weird connectors on the back)
Does it properly support 240p recording to DVD or does it treat it like 480i (deinterlaces non-interlaced video, destroying 60hz effects)?
Emmett Turner How would I go about checking that?
@@bocefusboy I usually use the "Lens of Truth" tool in 240p Test Suite on various old game consoles but if you don't have a way to run that it's probably best to look for artifacts. Like when Mario gets hit in more old NES/SNES games he is supposed to flash at ~60hz to appear semi-transparent. When the video is being improperly treated as interlaced, the deinterlacer will cause Mario to look invisible, solid, striped, or alternate between those. Very distracting!
I have a newly purchased (used) Sony RDR-VX525. Do you happen to have any suggestions for the following situation? I am trying to digitize my home videos. After pressing the --> video button, the player acts like it is recording (video is playing, DVD recording icon is on, record comes up on the top of the screen, etc.). When the VHS tape is finished, I press the stop button on the remote. A screen comes up stating something along the lines of "Updating disc information. Please wait." On the player itself, the information screen says INF-WRITE (seems to be a copywriting error, but it's a home video, so I'm not sure why it would be saying that). The information screen on the player then flashes something like disc err (disc error?) and ejects the disc from the player. Do you have any suggestions for troubleshooting or how to fix this? Thanks!
I had a Funai and a Toshiba. I want that again.
Absolutely great information thanks 🙏
I saw one of these at used store in my city week ago. I still have VCR only does VHS it eat my video tape I check tape it wasn't turning because i haven't use it very long time
does it record to VHS from HDMI?
It does not have an HDMI input, so no, it does not record from HDMI.
Negative
@@databits Sorry for trolling, i should have marked this more clearly as sarcasm. (like techmoan is reagularly asked in dash cam reviews 'if it's working as a webcam as well')
rarbi.art - I’m glad you explained yourself 😂
@@databits it's clearly possible to convert hdmi down to composite (or svideo) and then record it to VHS. A device recording directly from a modern $whatever to VHS would be .... fun!
How to buy the unit sony RDR vx525 dvd vhs compo player
Would the Channel buttons work for controlling the tv through CEC from the HDMI port?
Thanks for this review and tutorial.
Question: Are you able to pause on the DVD during and while recording?
I purchased this unit from amazon seller but received a third party remote rmt-d240a, I am unable to get into the system menu. I can't get out of dvd1 mode. can I reset the remote?
I can't get to the system menu anymore just dvd1
Hello, thanks for this video! I am trying to use this VCR to convert VHS to digital with the Elgato capture card. The problem I'm running into is that black display bar at the top (the one that says Video, SP, Line 1) appears every so often, and I don't want that in my videos. Do you happen to know if it's possible to keep that from showing up during playback?
I recommend ripping them to disc from the unit then rip it to dvd I do this service on ebay
the vx535 and the vx525 ? which one is better and more expensive and why ? please
it says video because that is what many refer to it as. to my knowledge VHS is an american term which is practically never used in the UK
VHS is the proper name of the cassette format, it's worldwide.
At least the VHS playback quality is somewhat acceptable (Well, it's a Sony, who probably do not want to be thought of as a company making crap.)
Some 10 years ago my now late uncle bought such a combo unit from Funai and I was summoned to instruct him on how to use it. Since he had not yet found any of the tapes he wished to transfer to DVD, I brought one of the few non-copy protected movies I owned on VHS and a DVD-RW disc to test it out.
And BOY, did it look absolutely HORRIBLE!! Plenty of color bleeding, oversaturated colors, the (few) details in the video pretty much weren't identifiable... and dropouts were not hidden very well.
I advised him to return the unit and then get either two separate decks - one HDD/DVD recorder and a better VHS deck - and then connect the two... or to let me do the transfers for him. He chose the latter.
He returned the other combo deck, got his money back and then insisted on paying me that money to have me transfer all of his home video tapes to DVD.
Still having the result from the test we did, I thought I would show him what he would get instead. I took the same scene and did a transfer on my own gear. He was surprised to see how two VHS players could produce such vastly different results.
I thru mine away.. Lost the remote the vhs side started to damage my tapes and the DVD tray stop working as well...i got so piss off i actullay dumped all my vhs tapes. ( 100 plus) in the trash n make sure no one got them o dumped pain thinner over..thats how mad i was...
I always found these machines stupid because they have copyright. I can not just convert any tape to DVD and vice versa.
Absolute Longplay *You need to have a eye patch and a wooden leg in order to do that sir*
I have had two set top DVD recorders. The Panasonic floor model was vary finicky and the Sony is infuriating, can barely record any DVD with it. Course I got that one from a thrift shop, wonder if it's fixable.
I thought most people understood that video was vhs, not sure I understand you're confusion with using it to refer to vhs besides maybe a generation thing?
Are you going to upload the whole 3M Innovation tape?
I could?
do you know if commercial vhs tapes can be recorded through hdmi to a PC capture card? Would like to archive childhood tapes in HD
Nope, unless you use one of those "video stabilizers" that get rid of stupid Macrovision.
I have the RDR-VX555 is it worth anything?
I love electronic gadgets and I hope to have one like it 😭😭😭.im from algeria
Why can't you record pre-recorded movies? As long as the tapes do not have copy protection, I can't see why not...
If it doesn't have copy protection (like Macrovision), you should be able to copy it. I believe it just detects the protection encoded in the video signal and disables copying.
Yup, as others said, Macrovision would be the killer.
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So I was wondering I own a funai unit and it works pretty well for a funai unit but the only issue i have is that through hdmi it has a flash randomly in the picture when it goes from a dark picture to a bright picture only on the vhs side not on the dvd side it is not my movies I just don't know if your not susposed to watch vhs through hdmi but I thought you could I read the manual nothing about you can't watch vhs in hdmi please if anyone has one of these DVD vcr combos with hdmi do you have the same issue please leave feedback. And for those wondering when I use composite cables it is fine on the vhs side.
I’ve got an U.K. spec one of these and it copied my prerecorded vhs tapes to dvd ok without any copywrite problems. It was status quo music videos not Hollywood movies but it was still a genuine prerecorded vhs.
mark reed - Yes, any tape without Macrovision will dub fine. The studio tape I used obviously lacked a copy protector.
databits oh right. I doubt my status quo videos had macrovision. Keep up the good work. 👍
Do these combo units provide better VHS picture quality than a S-VHS machine ?
The Shadow Man - This is debatable. This one does upscale to 1080i but the analog to digital conversion may simply make it look better on a modern TV.
I once had one S-VHS recorder and the picture quality was only slightly better than standard VHS (It required special S-VHS tapes) . But this machine could perform better because of this hdmi connection, no analog disturb from the other devices and cables.
@@databits Question. Does the HDMI output only work for DVD's? Or can both the DVD player section, and the VCR section make use of the the HDMI output?
Uh they dont become scarce until post 2016 because lmao they made em from funai
SLP AND EP IS THE SAME
720p is better than 1080i
Amen
Does anyone know if it records to Dual Layer DVDs?
I managed to find the manual for it online, and it says in the manual that it does support DVD+R DL
Does in play HD VHS taps ?
I does play SVHS tapes but in reduced quality. Does not play D-VHS
MACROVISION is what screws up every recording attempt.
Video tape.
New VCR mujha chaiya
Need
I have had enough of my mom using the HDTV as a second screen to plug her iPhone into (through a HDMI cable)
VHS is more important
I should definitely find a VCR/DVD combo player with HDMI built-in so that I should definitely watch
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