I love how Lorgar just casually says «Oh by the way, Erebus was the guy who killed your friend, go fuck him up» right after such a serious conversation.
@@AdeptKing I mean Argel Tal was one of his sons. One of his most favoured sons. In his own way he's absolutely furious with Erebus, but can't openly act against him.
@@OfficerIreneEnclave Because the Dark Gods favour him so much. Because he is still necessary for their plan to unfold. No matter how much he wants to kill him. But Kharn? Well, even if he doesn't die, it's gonna hurt a LOT.
I always liked to think that Lorgar used that priestly, politician manner he was so skilled in, and spoke gently, and calmly, trying to get Kharn to see it from his side, and commiserate with him on what he did to Angron. That he believed it truly necessary to save his brother. And then, at the end, with that sarcastic, icy tone, offered him Argel Tal's killer's name. Because even Lorgar was displeased with what happened to Argel.
He has a point in saying that he is less in pain now than before though. Sure though, incredible pain is less than unimaginable pain but it's not joyous, i agree.
Lorgar sees power as a net positive no matter from where it comes from. People like him are precisely why the Emperor was so paranoid about telling anyone about Chaos.
I always had it that Lorgar actually saw how deeply Kharn cared for others and respected him for it. Not to mention how - we know it - deeply Lorgar love Argel Tal. It seems like it was a consolation gift for Kharn, so to speak.
I undertand that Lorgar and Angron have bonded a bit during the heresy, but as the "loving" and "understanding" brother he is, Lorgar should have been the most well placed to know, Angron didn't wanted to be saved, he just wanted to f*cking die and finaly be free Emperor damn it ! "is he in pain ?" even after all of this, all of this bloodshade and bullshit, Kharn still see Angron as his father, breaks my hearth to know how he is now, the "betrayer"
Lorgar is blinded by his religious zeal and moral convictions, and his love for Angron blinds him to what Angron actually wants. His own desire to have Angron "alive" outweighs any consideration that Angron himself desires death. In Lorgar's mind, he hasn't just saved Angron from dying, but also given him a reason to live by serving Khorne as Lorgar serves chaos.
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Lorgar forcing his brother to trade Nails that were killing him for a Collar to keep him "alive". What a twisted sense of loyalty to someone who he fought side by side against.
He still has the Nails though. They're even more a part of him than when he was mortal, they're part of his daemonic form and now even if they're torn out they just regenerate along with his body
Only lorgar tried to help him and had compassion for angron's pain. Reject's loyalty to each others, lorgar rejected for his faith and angron for his unwillingness to serve the emperor as a tyrant enslaving the galaxy under the "tythe and tax" terms. Plus, lorgar gave to kharn who killed his bro argel thal, and that's wholesome for when he then made Erebus his bitch
Lorgar greatly respected Kharn. He already saw his future of the next several thousands of years. Kharn the Betrayer. The greatest champion of Khorne, and not even a daemon.
Logar might have set the stage for Angron’s demonhood but Angron was the one who clasped the collars of slavery on himself and all world eaters, and proclaimed it freedom.
I saw some videos with Kharn. And I surprisely symphatize with the guy. He not let the Nails devourer his mind. He just want Angron and the World Eaters to be become something better. Just better.
Angron didn't want to be saved, he wanted to die, to die with his blood brothers on nuceria, he wanted his sons to kill him, he wanted the nails to take him, but at every turn he was forced to live, the emperors unwillingness to help him, kharns unwillingness to fight him, lorgars unwillingness to let go of his brother, or war asset. He never had a choice.
Okay... but Angron still suffers from the Nails. During his fight with Sanguinius, the book says that the Nails were still active. So he became a Daemon Primarch for nothing.
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I love how Lorgar just casually says «Oh by the way, Erebus was the guy who killed your friend, go fuck him up» right after such a serious conversation.
Lorgar liked Argel Tal too.
@@AdeptKing I mean Argel Tal was one of his sons. One of his most favoured sons. In his own way he's absolutely furious with Erebus, but can't openly act against him.
@@kevlonkwhy can’t he just openly kill Erebus Lorgar is a primarch
@@OfficerIreneEnclave Because the Dark Gods favour him so much. Because he is still necessary for their plan to unfold. No matter how much he wants to kill him.
But Kharn? Well, even if he doesn't die, it's gonna hurt a LOT.
Becouse it would break his strategically well maintained legion. @@OfficerIreneEnclave
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“Angron was dying so I saved him from his torment by making him immortal and in far more pain than ever.”
Nah Angron ascended and chose to keep the butcher's nails
@@cb2291Ascended against his will and is unable to die. Angron hates being a demon prince but his mind is also just gone
@@cb2291didn't lorgar force that on him or something?
In other words I saved him from his torment and throwing him to another much worse one.
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“Would you like to know…WHO killed Argel Tal?” The VENOM and smirk on those words
I always liked to think that Lorgar used that priestly, politician manner he was so skilled in, and spoke gently, and calmly, trying to get Kharn to see it from his side, and commiserate with him on what he did to Angron. That he believed it truly necessary to save his brother.
And then, at the end, with that sarcastic, icy tone, offered him Argel Tal's killer's name. Because even Lorgar was displeased with what happened to Argel.
Argel was his favored child, and Erebus overstepped himself by killing him
Lorgars total arrogance and utter blindness is very well acted.
Religious fanaticism is a hell of a drug!
When you think you are fulfilling God's will, everything you do is just, right and true.
"Argel Tal. Whatever happened there. It's sad when they go young like that."
"WHEN THEY GO?!"
"That Fucking Animal Erebus"
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Whatever happened there?!?!
Kharn: 1000 years old, just a kid. Me I'm an old man
@@randomcenturion7264 Argel Tal was just a fucking kid!
Kharn sounds exactly like i imagined reading the WE books, you're nailing the voices
"Is he in pain?"
"Yes."
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I think it's not a pain but a eternally torment.
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Lorgar cannot see the difference between salvation and damnation.
For him eternity is a reward.
Angron didn’t want that. Eternity is agony to him.
He has a point in saying that he is less in pain now than before though. Sure though, incredible pain is less than unimaginable pain but it's not joyous, i agree.
Lorgar sees power as a net positive no matter from where it comes from. People like him are precisely why the Emperor was so paranoid about telling anyone about Chaos.
"Is he in pain?"
THAT ONE hurts to read... God damn!
"I alone looked into ways to free him from an existence of unrivaled agony."
"Is he in pain?"
"Yes."
Surprised Lorgar is even alive in the setting.
Yay Christmas present
Ngl that was a bro move of lorgar to dime erebus to kharn even if he had ulterior motives. Might have been the only good thing he did.
I always had it that Lorgar actually saw how deeply Kharn cared for others and respected him for it. Not to mention how - we know it - deeply Lorgar love Argel Tal. It seems like it was a consolation gift for Kharn, so to speak.
I undertand that Lorgar and Angron have bonded a bit during the heresy, but as the "loving" and "understanding" brother he is, Lorgar should have been the most well placed to know, Angron didn't wanted to be saved, he just wanted to f*cking die and finaly be free
Emperor damn it ! "is he in pain ?" even after all of this, all of this bloodshade and bullshit, Kharn still see Angron as his father, breaks my hearth to know how he is now, the "betrayer"
Lorgar is blinded by his religious zeal and moral convictions, and his love for Angron blinds him to what Angron actually wants.
His own desire to have Angron "alive" outweighs any consideration that Angron himself desires death.
In Lorgar's mind, he hasn't just saved Angron from dying, but also given him a reason to live by serving Khorne as Lorgar serves chaos.
@@Fuerto203 sooooo ... F*CK Erebus ?!
@@kira68200All paths and outcomes lead to fuck Erebus
@@johnozzmond9728 as it should brother
I keep coming back. Very good narration.
Lorgar then proceeded to point at Erebus, and told the War Hound "Sic 'im."
Now Khan knows how Mago's feels.
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Don't you worry, there's plenty coming.
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Once again his death is stolen from him
Lorgar forcing his brother to trade Nails that were killing him for a Collar to keep him "alive". What a twisted sense of loyalty to someone who he fought side by side against.
Lorgar is only loyal to his faith, and his faith decrees that Angron needs to be a daemon.
He still has the Nails though. They're even more a part of him than when he was mortal, they're part of his daemonic form and now even if they're torn out they just regenerate along with his body
Only lorgar tried to help him and had compassion for angron's pain. Reject's loyalty to each others, lorgar rejected for his faith and angron for his unwillingness to serve the emperor as a tyrant enslaving the galaxy under the "tythe and tax" terms.
Plus, lorgar gave to kharn who killed his bro argel thal, and that's wholesome for when he then made Erebus his bitch
Worse, he still has the nails. I think they’re worse than before now as well.
Great bit of dramatic reading :)
This is my favourite scene.
I'm undecided which I prefer at this point. German World Eaters or Slavic World Eaters.
germen black templars
Honestly, I liked the Afrikan World Eaters.
@@darthlazurus4382You mean Devarus?
German are Rogal Dorn, Sigismund Hellbrecht, the black templar with the iron cross and the imperial fists with their codex from prussia.
@@user-dn6oi6dt7U Black Template are absolutely German, even if they do look more like the knights hospitaller than the teutonic knights
"Angron is a babbling insane monster who kills his allies and roars incoherently!"
"Yes, and there's some new stuff too!"
I feel like ratting on Erebus to Khârn was Lorgar's way of diverting Khârn's anger from himself.
Nope. Just used Khârn's rage to kill a pest who killed his best son, Argel Tal.
@Verg887 yeah, but then Erebus noped out like a whimp in front of everybody.
This is the best lorgar voice
Lorgar is the best
Lorgar greatly respected Kharn. He already saw his future of the next several thousands of years. Kharn the Betrayer. The greatest champion of Khorne, and not even a daemon.
how would you describe the voice of lorgar? it sounds really well done
Logar might have set the stage for Angron’s demonhood but Angron was the one who clasped the collars of slavery on himself and all world eaters, and proclaimed it freedom.
I now view Kharn with a Slavic Accent.
I saw some videos with Kharn. And I surprisely symphatize with the guy. He not let the Nails devourer his mind. He just want Angron and the World Eaters to be become something better. Just better.
its wild a space marine is talking like that to a Primarch if you think about it.
Angron didn't want to be saved, he wanted to die, to die with his blood brothers on nuceria, he wanted his sons to kill him, he wanted the nails to take him, but at every turn he was forced to live, the emperors unwillingness to help him, kharns unwillingness to fight him, lorgars unwillingness to let go of his brother, or war asset.
He never had a choice.
Ah Yes. The word bearer lying to the face. What's next? Gravity machine generates gravity?
Does anyone else crack up whenever Khârn tells Lorgar about all of the ridiculously grimdark warp shenanigans happening on the flagship?
Kharn was loyal
Okay... but Angron still suffers from the Nails. During his fight with Sanguinius, the book says that the Nails were still active. So he became a Daemon Primarch for nothing.
The nails were killing him before he became a demon prince. So now he gets to be immortal and in constant pain.
Oh Lorgar... if only you fathomed what you had done that day, as so many others before...
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Does Kharn sound more French or Greek here? Shouldn’t they all look stereotypically Mediterranean?
Only Kharn could demand an accounting from a Primarch in such manner.
I didn't know Kharn was Russian
He’s from what was Siberia.
@@rustkarl if I am not mistaken before Unification Wars the country holding that territory called Ursh am I right?
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I think so but I can’t say for certain.
Lorgar did Erebus dirty. But damn, Erebus deserved every last beating given to him by Khârn and then some.