The Difference Between Nationalism and Patriotism
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Nationalism is a word that often has a negative connotation these days.
In fact, the word is often used to attack people. It’s often automatically associated with white nationalism. And lately Trump and others, like PragerU, (clip) are trying to change that. But French President Emmanuel Macron said “nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism.”
Wait, patriotism? Well that word is often glorified. And yet, nationalism and patriotism are two words that people constantly get mixed up. Wikipedia even says this, for crying out loud.
While the two terms are related and used to basically mean the same thing, today they no longer mean the same thing. So let’s clear this up.
Patriotism is love and devotion to one’s country.
Nationalism is love and devotion to one’s country ABOVE ALL OTHERS
Now, nationalism does have other meanings, and there are different kinds of nationalism, but I don’t want to complicate things too much. For the rest of this video, I do want to analyze why so many people think nationalism is dangerous and patriotism is not. Understanding that will hopefully help give you a deeper understanding of the difference between the two.
First of all, nationalism often leads to revolution and war. Patriotism usually does not. In fact, nationalism was one of the primary causes of both World War I and World War 2.
Second, nationalism is exclusionary. Patriotism does not have to be. Nationalism creates this in-group/out-group mentality, and often justifies doing whatever possible to help just one nation while ignoring, neglecting, or even hurting other nations. This automatically makes every global issue an “us vs. them” issue. You’re either with us or against us! Novelist George Orwell was a big critic of nationalism. He once said, “A nationalist is one who thinks...mainly in terms of competitive prestige...his thoughts always turn on victories, defeats, triumphs, and humiliations.”
And finally, the third problem with nationalism is that it often leads to breaking laws of other countries. Patriotism does not. With nationalism, the laws of one country always super cede the laws of all other countries. It also leads to the breaking of treaties. For example, time and time again we’ve seen countries break the Geneva Conventions due to nationalism.
In conclusion, remembering the difference between patriotism and nationalism should is key to recognizing how nationalism could be a threat to world peace. Yes, individual countries should have sovereignty, but cooperation between sovereign nations is the way forward if we want humans to stick around for awhile. And I like humans. I really do! They’re great.
Maybe nationalism isn't as bad as folks say it is. What did I get wrong about nationalism? And it's true. I meant what I said. I like humans.
I don't know whether this is intentional or not, but this comment sounds like something Donald would say.
Obviously you don't know what the hell you're talking about in this video is laughable and childlike by using puppets. I think it's kind of funny and laughable how pathetic your definition or logic it really is child life. Let me actually give you a definition. That actually is a true definition of what is nationalism is
identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations
It's kind of funny that you mention about wars with nationalism who starts more worse than. Then the United States o yeah the UN the globalist. Thanks to the UN we've been peer pressured into war so many times it's not even funny. And Donald Trump is leaving Syria so this is already debunked by itself...
And Japan and Germany back in the 1940s during World War II they wanted a One World Government that's pretty globalist. And the opposite of what is naturalism
@infohell the gothic Republican: let me tell you the crucial part of your definition of nationalism: "especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations". That is the scariest part of all.
Nothing is wrong about loving your country, the problem begins when your love manifests by hating others. I hope you understand the difference.
Here is the mathematical representation of nationalism:
Nationalism = Patriotism + (Hate for other nations - Empathy for human being as a whole)
Have a great day.
Do you have a view on Brexit?
@Abraham Lincoln Point 1. It's overarching Nation and Government under Nationalism are Inseperable
Point 2. Patriotism + Imperialism (Mindset!) = Nationalism
Point 3. Deutschland Deutschland Uber Alles, Let's Conquer all of Europe, Clense the Impure Races/ Nationalities .etc
Point 4. Protection =/= Aggression, Patriotism already implies protection above all.
The way I've always seen it:
-Patriotism: I love my nation, but not at the expense of others.
-Nationalism: I don't necessarily dislike other nations, but the interests of mine supersede all others.
-Jingoism: I detest any nation that is not my own.
Nationalism IMO is "my country is better than the ones surrounding it". Patriotism acknowledges the good things your nation has done like I'm Indian and I'm patriotic cause my nation has always been secular and accepted every religion with open arms,has never invaded any nation and is one of the Main proponants of peace and cooperation.
Nationalism is me giving negatives of other nations to put my own in a higher pedestal like "India is better than its every neigbour and you I'll show you my strength if I have to prove it"
That's just my take though
The thing with the word "nationalism" is that it originally just meant the abstract idea that peoples clump together to form "nations". A "nation" in this sense being defined as "A large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory". So, following this classic, original definition, anyone who believes in such concept is technically a "nationalist". Nationalism for a given specific group of people would mean that you believe that these form a legitimate "nation" based on a set of shared common traits. Because of this, a "nation" can be anything if you "play" a little with Set Theory by pointing out any amounts of common traits that a group of people has. This is where the various types of Nationalism rise up, from Territorial Nationalism, to Ethnonacionalism, Racial Nationalism, Cultural Nationalism, Civic Nationalism and many others. And believe it or not, but there are actual racial nationalists who do not wish any harm to other "races". They just want to live in relative isolation from what they perceive are different races. So how do we define them in this context if they not always seek war? Keep in mind that a nation isn't the same as a nation-state, which is just the governmental body who theoretically represents its respective "nation".
This is what gives "nationalism" such a confusing definition. A "nation" is something so abstract, so subjective based around what makes a symbolic "unification factor", that it can mean _anything._ Imo, using the term "patriotism" isn't even correct (unless, maybe, you mean the actual devotion to a nation rather than just simply believing in its legitimate existence, in which case patriotism _can_ be a bad thing since devotion can come up in many forms...) and this is my biggest critique with nationalism as a whole: Because since cultures and mindsets change every damn time, including the weavering wills of a people to just either accept the rule or to want to piss off from their current territory with separatism, "nationalism" is not absolute and is something almost akin to a literal myth or religion (if not entirely so)!
Also, I believe that what people think of the word "patriotism" is actually the concept of "Civic Nationalism". I.E, the concept that you don't have to share a given heritage or culture to be a part of a nation. It's much more open ended and is the type of Nationalism _(supposed_ to be...) practiced by the United States. The problem, though, arises with the question: If anyone can just come in and say he's a part of a nation with something as simple and superficial as a mere piece of paper, does nationalism even hold any ground anymore? If anything, it just proves even further how pointless this abstraction ultimately is.
@@lalitthapa101 in my nation it's the opposite.
Nationalism: I dislike brown people, and brown immigrants. I'm unaware of illegal white immigrants. I'm gullible, and will swallow any lie my orange master tells me. I will attack my own country for a lie.
@@buttkid3548 bruh that's not what nationalism is about
Glad someone is making this distinction. I grew up learning that it was bad to have pride in America. Then I started traveling the world and it seemed like people from other countries seemed very happy to be Brazilian or Italian or whatever. I think that’s when I started understanding the difference in nationalism and patriotism. Anyway, the difference is so helpful because I sure do like America, despite her sins. Good work on this one...
Well thank you colleague. It's a distinction I think is important.
Woah, it’s the guy who singlehandedly helped thousands of kids earn fives in multiple AP classes, including me.
Tarik Hodzic I would change that statement to you “should be” not “have to be”. Have to be sounds very forceful.
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my ap world history teacher shows us ur vids all the time
Personally I've always diffenciated the two like this
Patriotism: this is my favourite country
Nationalism: this is the best country
I would put it this way
Patriotism: I love my country
Nationalism: Every other country is worse than mine, and they must submit
this is the european defintion, obviously other countries think of nationalism with a different meaning
@@lucabralia5125 More like the european definition changed because of imperalism and prejudice, but back in the XIXth century, nationalism was the a left wing idea. The italian nationalism of the XIXth century and the vietnamese nationalism of the XXth both want the same thing.
@@alexandrebertrand1069 When did I even say that it could only be a right wing idea, obviosuly left wing nationalism can exist.
@@lucabralia5125 Oh I never claimed that you said that, I just wanted to give more precisions on how things are in Europe. It's became more of a taboo than anything to be honest.
@@alexandrebertrand1069 ok
Video Idea: What exactly is political correctness
That's a fantastic idea
@@iammrbeat personally, I think it is an issue, but an exaggerated one, and the bigger issue are the countless videos making fun of it and at the same time, being toxic while not helping
Political correctness is a tool to ensure the perks of the top 1%. Since emphasizing identity politics hides the truth that US is actually a pyramid society with harsh social class conflicts by income and property disparities other than race or gender or ethnicity
@@iammrbeat Agreed. I'd love see you do a video on that.
Political Purity; usually in the Social Sense
Love this quote: "The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war." Sydney J. Harris
Although it’s not the country that does anything, it’s the people that are in control at that particular time. Once you overstand that and can separate the two, there’s no problem in loving your country no matter who’s in charge and whether they’re doing good or bad
Can you explain all the revolutions cuased by nationalism than?
@@GodmadeTrends If you seperate the people and their politics from the country is there anything left except for the geography to begin with?
@@ChJuHu93 yes there is much more left imo than the geography. The culture, tradition, history, the landscape, the climate the list goes on
Interesting surname "Harris" ....
A patriot is like a parent who loves his child unconditionally, and wants that child to be the best he can be, and to that end, is willing to do the necessary, but sometimes unpleasant work of correcting that child when he behaves inappropriately. A nationalist is like a parent who refuses to acknowledge that his child ever does anything wrong, spoils him rotten, and the child becomes an insufferable asshole.
Patriotism is like being chill like Yea my country is cool but it could be better. But nationalism is like MY COUNTRY IS THE BEST AND NOTHING IS BETTER!!
This isn’t true tho
Except many nationalists do acknowledge their nation's faults and mistakes and want to improve from it. This is all just subversions and changing of definitiona
@@bobbyhill1110 you just read me like a book
As long as you don't hit your child acceptable
Here in Scotland we don’t consider nationalism bad.
Different contextual situations, its similar to Irish nationalism in simply wanting a state and representative government
Salokin true
As a fellow scotsman, the reason why nationalism here isn't seen so bad generally cause of the snp which has the word, nationalism in it, however they are a very left leaning and globalist party
@@salokin3087 yep. Nationalism here in Ireland is seen as the moderate side and a republican is extreme
Scotland has the oddest nationalists in the world. usually, nationalists are right winged hardliners.
I think Scotland is the only country in which a nationalist party is a center-left party. most nationalists around the globe are more like the English Tories
My take is this:
Patriotism: I love my country but I don't tell everyone that we're the greatest and I acknowledge our faults and try to be better.
Nationalism: We are the greatest and are superior to other nations. We should be first in everything and we should not care about other nations
Well, a nationalist can still see the faults in their own country and still want to make it better while also thinking it’s superior to others. And caring for other nations goes as far as how much it would benefit the country.
@@nojatha4637 I agree that a nationalist can see the faults in their own country and want to make it better, but my experience is that most nationalists idea of making the country better is to make it more nationalistic. Most nationalists that I've encountered aren't travelers, or really interested in any other countries or cultures. To them the familiar is the best. to the point where the positive attributes and problems of the unfamiliar are inconsequential to them.
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Yes
I like both
Nationalism is a very strong force. It can be used for great purposes, Or very bad ones.
Kind of like socialism, capitalism, religion, political correctness.......
@Frog Patriotic Yes capitalism can ignore external factors that are not currently part of its business model and has no self interest in correcting. If the government doesn't correct for this issue the strong force of capitalism can create a huge problem. For example a pollution created by the business that it doesn't incur the cost of creating. A business does not naturally incur cost such as labor and materials. It has no reason to voluntarily incur cost. Example would be China and its growing issue with massive pollution. The government does not force cost to be incurred by creator so it is not corrected.
Sorry was unclear there "A business does not naturally incur cost of pollution like it does for labor and materials."
Hope I didn't confuse the issue.
M socialism always sucks lol, Just like political correctness.
@@Anon-vd4xd I will admit that certain aspects of a Capitalist ( my favorite) economic political system requires social programs. Socialism itself always sucks and so does communism.
The snippet claiming former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher hated the EU was only half true. Yes she didn't care much about it towards the end of her time in 10 Downing Street, but believe it or not, she was one of the leading campaigners for UK to join what was in 1975 the European Economic Community (EEC). Indeed, she maintained, "it is not me that has changed, the EU has changed." She felt, rightly or wrongly, that the sovereignty of nations was being threatened by the EU becoming more centralised. She said "... Europe has been at its best when Spain is Spain, France is France, Britain as Britain, each maintaining their own unique identity and customs,"
Oh snap. Dropping some knowledge in the comment section!
@@iammrbeat you mentioned before in a live video that you mainly focus on US history, but if you need some digging into things to do with the UK for example, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do to help
@U Haul indeed, my late grandfather (who passed away just over a month before the Brexit referendum, aged 91) said in his final days, "if I had the chance I would vote remain, not because the EU is perfect, but because of the alternative being worse," he was well placed to say this as he served with the Royal Navy in WW2 and provided a supporting role in the D-Day landings, June 6th 1944. He had seen these nationalistic tendancies before and didn't want it to happen again
@ I am well aware that the EU is far from perfect. The inclusion of Greece as a member for example when the authorities in Athens (it transpired later) fudged the numbers to mask how weak their financial situation was. However, with the increasingly global threat of any form of terrorism, Europe needs more cooperation, not having all nations stick their middle fingers up at each other. We in the UK, even though we have been in the EU in various guises since the 1970's, have never fully subscribed to the way nations in continental Europe have gone, doing away with border checks and having a common currency. We have kept the Pound Sterling, we never joined the Schengen Area (part of the aforementioned lack of border checks between nations) and we have the type G plug outlet. When using the ferry from Dover to Calais for example, you have to pass through security and border controls with the ferry acting as a bridge across the English Channel. There is an overly simplified view that if a nation is a member of the EU they must have unmanned borders, that is not true for everywhere. Take a look at Slovenia, one of the Balkans nations, the first former Yugoslav Republic to become independent, their border with Croatia, despite being 2 EU member nations, is staffed by police.
There's other people who point out, "hang on, the UK does have an unmanned border with another nation, Ireland." That's true, however, it is not connected directly to the EU as such. It actually has more to do with the Good Friday Agreement. The checkpoints on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland were taken down after the signing of the agreement in 1998.
In answer to your question though, the truth is that although I voted, it was not because I was swayed by the rhetoric of one side or the other. I voted remain, for my own reasons, partly because I felt like it was the least worst option. As far as I was concerned, the rhetoric from the leave campaign was unrealistic (and it later turned out that there were shady aspects to the campaign) and the remain campaign tried to scare people to vote remain, which backfired when the results were announced. I felt that the build up to the referendum was the very last thing the nation needed, we needed (and still do) need to keep our eyes peeled for the real enemies, those who want to insight fear and chaos in the hearts of those like the US and Europe. All it succeeded in doing was turn people against each other. I just despaired at the population of the nation tearing itself apart like this for nothing better than to fulfill politicians' egos (like Boris "born in the USA" Johnson, Micheal Gove and Priti Patel)
Addendum to that fun fact: Ronald Reagan was a liberal Democrat throughout most of his life.
Thank you for making this distinction! Everyone keeps insulting me because I'm a German nationalist, which I'm not, I'm Patriotic, sure I used to be a nationalist, but that was because I was blinded by the Nazi Regime into thinking I was better than everyone else and that my country was superior to all the other countries. You are a good man, Mr. Beat.
Damn, we don't see people this old on RUclips very often.
It’s honestly incredible to hear from somebody who was alive during that era and to hear you’ve denounced the nazi rhetoric! It must have been a challenge considering how prominent it was during ww2 and even after, but you should feel proud of yourself for being able to! Much love from America
Wow, ich dachte erst du meinst einige Nazis heutzutage. Dass jemand der das erlebt hat grade auf RUclips ist...wow
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That extended evil laugh though
Mwhahahahahahahahahahahaha
The way i think of it is "Nationalism is the political implementation of Patriotism".
I always thought of it as:
Patriotism: Love for your country and desire to see it improve.
Nationalism: Believing your country to be superior to the rest of the world.
Fascism: Political implementation of nationalism.
@@gladonos3384 Think of it like this, Patriotism is a feeling "I Like/Love My Country!" Nationalism is a Political Ideology where public policy is put in place to perverse and further and protect the nation and its identity. So that feeling of loving your country and its history and heritage, Nationalism means putting Patriotism into action making sure the country is put first. Fascism is when the government exerts complete control of the whole country from social to economic matters for a national revival in a form of Ultra Nationalism most but not all Fascist states tend to be become Imperialist and are more then often Supremacist in their thinking. You can be a Nationalist and believe in Liberal Democracy, but you can also be a Monarchist, Socialist, Minarchist, and yes even Fascist but Nationalism isn't in and of itself a supremacist idea. I hope this helped :)
@@WanderingRusski Ohhhhh... I like those definitions. Nice.
@@gladonos3384
Fascism is a bit more complicated than that. In fact, you don't necessarily need nationalism to be fascism. Mr. Beat has another video on this.
@@gladonos3384
You don't have to believe your country is superior to all others be a nationalist, that belief just tends to attach itself.
You don't have to be a nationalist to be a fascist the same way you don't have to be white to be racist. That is propaganda from one side of politics.
Nationalism should not mistaken as Ultranationalism
Whats that?
My dad described it this way:
Patriot: "I'm glad to live in my country because it's great"
Nationalist: "I'm proud to be from my country because it's the greatest"
Nice analogy 👍🏼
Nationalism: My country right or wrong.
Patriotism: My country to commend when right but to correct when wrong.
I’d hope ever one thinks their nation is the greatest. I think my nation is the greatest. A Indian nationalist that wants to make India stronger is nothing bag.
Nationalism includes putting your own country first. Take care of our own. A government that is for our needs first.
Yeah but that isn't really a good or smart idea! It's not even in our own best interest to act that selfishly.
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As long as you're white.
Thats just patriotism
@@Wayzor_ and rich
i mean nationalism as seen in germany and japan during the 30’s is the most extreme case of nationalism. nationalism has also done plenty of good things in history, like the close ties that nationalism had to democracy back in the early 1800’s. and also the idea of the nation state. this type of nationalism is actually called civic nationalism instead of the more common idea of what nationalism is which is ethnic nationalism.
Facts
That wasn't nationalism. That was ultra-nationalism. HUGE difference.
@@shubhsiddhartha9409 fascism isn’t a subset of nationalism. Nationalism is a trait of fascism.
@@shubhsiddhartha9409 ultranationalism is a trait of fascism, but not the entire ideology
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Beware the comments. Here be dragons.
I ain't afraid.
@@iammrbeat And the goblins? What of the Pete's?
Rawr xD
Is this a reference to cyphers 10 slavery myths comment section?
More like a Hydra
I try arguing this all the time lately. Because I’m a veteran people assume that I’m a nationalist but I tell them I’m a patriot and then have to explain the two away because of the current climate and even then they dismiss me. Thank you for a great video!
@@deleteduser1877 ???
@@deleteduser1877 makes 0 sense
soldiers kill people for their country.
that's more nationalistic than a Na_i political activist.
it doesn't matter how you feel about it, you're a nationalist.
EDIT: i'd like to make a correction - a soldier can be patriotic who fights in a defensive war for their country.
american vets are not patriots, they're nationalists, the disasters in vietnam, iraq and afghanistan prove that.
I myself like nationalism, but it's best to not be in denial.
@@deleteduser1877 Neither is inherently genetic, though nationalism is usually more genetic.
Here in Spain the term "nationalism" is much better considered than "patriotism" in fact we think that the toxic and exclusive one is patriotism, so it's not an universal definition. Here and in many other countries, like Romania, Finland or the UK the term nationalism is also frequently used to describe the concept of identification to a "nation" whose territory is determined by a ethnic, cultural or linguistical common identity instead of one whose territory is just defined by its borders. While patriotism is commonly understood as a toxic or jingoistic version of the first.
In Italy it's the exact opposite
I would say your understanding is very American. For example here in Ireland to call oneself a nationalist means merely you wish to see the reunification of Ireland. It is often synonymous with republican (the Irish version of that word) and often indicates you're in fact left wing not right wing
Well I do refer to American dictionaries. I do recognize that the term means different things in different parts of the world.
@@iammrbeat I don't mean it as an insult or a jab. Merely an interesting observation. I always find it fascinating how Brits and Americans see things. Usually it's very different to my own country and so I enjoy learning a little
I'd say that difference in meaning and attached connotations is also very strongly tied to historical (and current) standing of said nations.
Being a Irish nationalist can be seen as something positive, since Ireland and the Irish have historically been oppressed and colonised by the English, and lacked an independent sovereign nation for a very long time. The same rings true for other colonised people.
That said, the right has become extremely adapt at stealing and twisting progressive language for their own means. This is why they are trying to make it sound as if the EU is a colonizing power or the US federal government is a tyrannical foreign government enslaving and exploiting... Idaho. Which is factually absurd to make this sound like colonialism; the Native American's didn't voluntarily join the US and the don't get veto power in the government, and neither did the Indians of the British Raj in Asia.
@@iammrbeat *respects Irish people and their differences* now THATS american patriotism
Definitely nothing wrong with wanting to see a united Ireland, as an American I hope that someday that happens for you guys. The National Party of Ireland seems to be far-Right(in US terms) and very much trying to stir up anti-immigrant sentiment when Ireland as a whole is 96% white.
Puppet fights should not be censored. It has history of best fight scenes. :D
I refuse the notion that nationalism means pride in your nation at the expense of other nations. Without nationalism, the modern nation-state simply would not exist. France for the French, Poland for the Poles, Italy for the Italians, etc... Nationalism to me is not an ideology. It's an idea, a concept.
That's what nationalism was maybe 100 to 200 years ago, but the meaning of it changed and just can't be applied to today's society the way it existed back then. Nowadays, rhethoric like "Poland to the Poles" etc. are xenophobic and extreme. People should accept that every country should be open to everyone (who is willing to be respectful and integrate), regardless of nationality and ethnicity
I love my country and think it’s the greatest, and also care about other people in other countries, and want to make their lives better. Yes we exist.
A hidden Nationalism
Nationalism
@@mohamedf8859 Incorrect, that's Patroitism.
@@Mitchery
The greatest country in the world killed millions and damaged minds by its media and Brian washing by media lies or by stupid conspiracy theories
@@Mitchery with moral degeneration in the name of freedom which is a slavery of Desris
I like prager U but even I have to admit, when they said that Hitler wasn't a nationlist. I was thinking what?
@@pepethefrog8116 I agree, prager u will give a platform for anyone who bashes the left, even anti Semites like Owen Benjamin.
Van der Linde yes it’s difficult nowadays to find media sources that aren’t biased and it sucks because lots of people tend to gravitate towards media that agrees with their views and it becomes an echo chamber and the political divide gets deeper and deeper.
Half of their videos are helpful, but the other half is so biased it changes facts
Lmao you like PragerU? Ahahahaha
I used to like Prager U
patriotism: love of one's country
nationalism: love of one's nation
Nationalism: I love my country's people
Patriotism: I love my country and land
The U.S. Leaders and apologists: Countries should have sovereignty!
8:45
Mr. Beat: Countries should have sovereignty of course...
The same U.S. Leaders and apologists: Wait, you're not in favor of sovereignty for all the countries we intervene in though right? Like Iraq in 2003, Syria present day, South Vietnam in 1963, Guatemala in 1954, Iran in 1953, Chile in 1973, Nicaragua and Cuba (this is constant) alongside Honduras, and all of the democracies we repressed to help achieve the goals of Operation Condor? You don't mean for those countries, right sir?
Mr. Beat: Yes, sovereignty is universal.
Neocons: WOW, what a treasonous criminal! Who do you think you are? Believing in PRINCIPLES! RADICAL!
lol how astute of you, young man! And PragerU, the same channel that regularly defends British imperialism.
Mr. Beat Can you debunk Prager u on something that other youtubers haven’t debunked them on, Or debunk any other Anti-SJW youtuber? (I hate SJW’s as well though)
But muh communisim but muh chemical wepons
@@BlueTyphoon2017 I dislike liberal SJW'S leftist sjw's are alot smarter
look at Chile and Greneda
An old history textbook I had in 8th grade claimed that nationalism was "pride in one's country," which is a much better definition for patriotism than nationalism. What was described was nationalism.
Nationalism should be considered just as "the sense of belonging to a nation (aka a group of people that identify in some common values). Everything else is adding adjectives.
That s because the definition of the video isn't politically neutral
It’s because people like Mr. Beat keep trying to make it more and more extreme. It’s okay to be a nationalist.
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The thing with nationalism is that it can be everything from wanting self-rule to demanding land from another nation.
For example in Czechia, nationalism was when Czechs wanted independence from Austria-Hungary but also it was nationalism when Hitler wanted to annex Sudetenland.
Nationalism is what kills multi-national states(Austria-Hungary, Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia) and will do.
Nationalism is bad when the nation has it's self-rule and patriotism for that country is not oppresed anywhere, but it's alright when the nation is prohibited from expresing itself and cannot decide about itself.
Great video man. This made these ideas more clear . Faith in humanity restored whenever I see people like you on RUclips . You are a great teacher sir.
"Love for ones country above all others" is the definition of chauvinism.
Nationalism is the love for ones nation and people(s) while patriotism is the love of ones state and country. When the two delineate it usually means that the state no longer holds the best interests of the people. For example an ethnic group, lets say Scots, can be nationalistic but not patriotic. In that sense nationalism can betray patriotism.
The same goes for France. The French state holds the human potential of its African pseudo-colonies above that of its own native French people. In that way a native Frenchman can not be both nationalistic and patriotic but a Nigerian immigrant to France can be.
there is so much wrong with your entire statement. first your definitions are incorrect. A simple google shows that Chauvanism and Nationalism are synonymous. Scots are not an ethnicity, they are stateless group of people who identify as scottish. they have a country, but they are subjects of the british crown so they do not have a state. They can be patriotic to the UK. And the French analogue that you use is subjective and nonsensical.
What's the difference between state, country and nation? Define them.
@@minsithumaung6867 A state is a governing entity, a country is a controlled region and a nation is an ethnic group of people. State and country are often used interchangeably, as a state is defined by its geographical borders. State and nation /can/ mean the same, if a group of people rules themselves independently (eg Danes in Denmark), this is more often called a nation state. There exist nations without states, such as the Kurds who have no country, or the Jews prior to Israel. You could also arguably call the EU a state without a country (as it's comprised of multiple countries), but with a nation, but most Europeans identify more as their direct country so it's debatable.
@@romenov8 I dont think nation means ethnic group of people. In my country many ethics but nation is one. Also kurds have state, (autonomous state). Otherwise good explanation.
@@minsithumaung6867 you really want to ask an international relations major with diplomatic experience to do that? I'll just say that a nation is an ideal and not a physical entity and is completely subjective. A state is an administrative body that controls a group with societal norms that have been made sovereign. A country is the geographical area as defined by the state and its boundaries. You're rather confrontational aren't you?
It was thanks to nationalism that so many countries became free from imperial rule (say my home country of Poland). I think nationalism could have both positive and negative connotations, depending on the situation. Even do nationalism has a negative connotation, according to the first amendment, people are free to express it, unless they live elsewhere in the world.
I always understood patriotism to be more a passive feeling, whereas nationalism is an active feeling
Nationalism can mean many things. For example, Palastinians and the Catalans who wish for independence are nationalists. But so are Israelis and Spaniards who wish for unity.
The literal definition of Nationalism is the identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, ESPECIALLY to the EXCLUSION or DETRIMENT of the interests of other nations. The fact that people try to sugar coat Nationalism by altering it's definition says it all.
That was good, Mr. Beat. More comedic than the electoral college you did a while back.
It was? Well thank you. That means a lot.
Not Realy
Nationalism trully is love for your country above all others. But nationalism is not about claiming you are superior, it is about saying that your nationals should have priority in your country, and expecting other nationals to have priority in their countries. I mean, it is YOUR country for a reason: your people fought for it and it's interests for centuries, not the ancestors of a foreigner that just happens to visit or move there.
I have too much in common with other people in this world too exclude them simply because we were born in different places.
@@danielblank9917 That can be possible only if you are a citizen of a young country like USA.
PragerU has two moods:
-Make sure to emphasize that Adolf Hitler was a "Nationalist Socialist" to shit on Socialism.
-Flat out deny that Adolf Hitler was a "Nationalist Socialism" to endorse Nationalism.
It just depends on the mood of Dennis, at this point.
As a staunch conservative, l am a patriot and a nationalist. As most nationalists, l very much respect nationalists of other friendly countries, such as Uruguay, Samoa, Estonia, Eswatini, Nepal, you name it. l will always ardently uphold the laws of any democratic country. Why is nationalism a danger?
You surely haven't met any nepali Nationalists yet.
@@rubin6202 l have met Nepalese nationalists.
@@davestrasburg408 The Royalist Nationalists or the Republican Nationalists?
@@rubin6202 lt was before the change in regime.
@@davestrasburg408 So the royalists?
Another great video Mr. Beat. I think the distinction is extremely important, and people often forget it. Also loved the puppets.
I disagree strongly with mr. V. His videos are great because he just has a certain charisma and presents things well but that doesn't hide the fact that I think he's wrong. His educational videos should be required learning especially the election series anyone who hasn't watched that is not a real fan of his. But I'm sorry I just as he's become more opinion oriented I've just drifted further away from him. But he likes humans I don't for the most part I mean until we even out things where the 1% doesn't control everything
Glad you dug the puppets! Paul does such a great job.
@@aaronbradley3232 "until we even things out where the 1% doesn't control everything." Yeah, the evil rich people, you must life in a really simple world or lifted it's been 3 years
There’s also a distinction between civic nationalism and ethnic nationalism. Civic nationalism being the love of the state- nation (a state made up of multiple ethnicities, united in loyalty to the state) and not a nation-state (exclusionary definition of a people part of a ethnicity or larger nation, who believe that they have political destiny). Ethnic nationalism is essentially the exclusion of other people, as it emphasizes one’s love of the people over the state.
Debunking PragerU is always fun! Nice video! (It’s yanny though)
It's LAUREL!
Mr. Beat *in trump voice* WRONG
@@fanyfan7466 he didn't debunk anything...... I live in europe and his perspective on EU is more than inaccurate...... what he described is what EU is on paper....... but in reality it functions very differently and there is HUGE amount of evil politics behind the curtain...... and also nationalism is none of those things he described...... if nationalism truly WAS about believing that your country is superior to others, then almost every american would be nationalist, since correct me if I'm wrong, but it is one of the most famous american "catch-phrases" that america is the greatest country in the world, right :D:D by that logic, every american who either says that or believes that would be automatically nationalist :D:D so obviously Mr. Beat's understanding of nationalism is very inaccurate....... he basically lumped up a few dictators with it and then assumed that's all nationalism represents....... that's the same thing like claiming that every muslim is a terrorist...... I bet he won't have the balls to say THAT, right :D
@@itkojecockot dude was joking to mr beat not about nationalism
@@ihazplawe2503 I know, I wasn't reacting to the joke, but to Mr. Beat's description of nationalism
I really enjoy your videos so, thank you for your passion and dedication to producing these videos.
However, my shirt is blue today not green... LOL. Enjoy your day.
lol thank you so much
“The nationalist does not go on the principle of simply ganging up with the strongest side. On the contrary, having picked his side, he persuades himself that it is the strongest, and is able to stick to his belief even when the facts are overwhelmingly against him. Nationalism is power hunger tempered by self-deception. Every nationalist is capable of the most flagrant dishonesty, but he is also - since he is conscious of serving something bigger than himself - unshakeably certain of being in the right.” George Orwell - Notes on nationslism
1:30 That's interesting, because wikipedia defines nationalism as such: "Academics define nationalism as a political principle that holds that the nation and state should be congruent." It goes on to say that Nationalism "... tends to promote the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people), especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation's sovereignty (self-governance) over its homeland to create a nation state." It also "...aims to build and maintain a single national identity, based on shared social characteristics..."
So yeah, nothing to do with what you said. What you've described is literally "Jingoism". Patriotism is a super category for jingoism but has little to with nationalism categorically (One could argue every nationalist is a patriot, but the terms still describe different things).
Nationalism is a political theory, _Not_ necessarily a set of behaviors or attributable opinions. We can describe an action or opinion as nationalistic in so far as it is inspired by or adheres to the political theory, but just saying "My country good, your country worse" is not an example.
Phenomenal video Mr. Beat
Thank you :D
Whenever europeans have nationalism you call it oppression and aggression. But pan african nationalism and anti colonial nationalism is so good and beautiful
That also stupid
Another great video Mr. Beat. I love how you can make complex ideologies more simple.
Thank you! That means a lot.
At 4:42 George Orwell literally describes Human nature and the the thought process of most people. why is thinking in terms of winning and losing bad when that’s is a inherent thought processes of most peoples .
For me:
Patriotism - Holding your country to higher standards and principles
Nationalism - Staying by your country DESPITE it's standards and principles
So basically, patriotism=strongly loving one’s country and nationalism=thinking one’s country is superior to all others
Patriot = Respect
Nationalist = Bully
Thats ultra not nationalism
@@madkhaliqfarhanWhat a way to grossly simplify and misinterpret patriotism and nationalism.
Loving your nation more than others is like loving your mother more than other peoples mothers
I think both terms refer to the love of an entity (country). Patriotism comes from the term pater or father (fatherland) refering to the people living in one country so it comes from a bloodline. Nationalism comes from nation or a place people share so it can be more inclusive if people are from ethnic groups and language groups. For me, I think patriatism sounds more dangerous as it hides a sinister form of blind love for the people you call compatriots or who are ethnically close to you. Of course patiotism is more acceptable these day but they are both stupid and dangerous. American soldiers killing Iraqis and Afghans are considered heroes in America but murderers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Patriots would see no problem them killing anyone who is deemed the "enemy" of America, but nobody asks if America should be defended all the time as it commits terrible acts. Patriotism and nationalism are blind love for your country. The whole idea of nation and country are fiction (according to Noah Yuval Harari) created to rule over the people by the rulers. A country is only unified when it is in conflict with others.
I like how he doesn't assert his views it's hard to learn about politics when it comes from a biased source but Mr beat just states the facts not choosing a side
Thank you. Really appreciate the clarity of your presentation. Learned a lot.
Dude, Its very very very very very rare I subscribe to a channel. I watched tons of your videos. But THIS VIDEO. Alone has earned you my subscription. EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! I dont know what it is. Ive advocated about nationlism for a long time and its almost like you took the words out my mouth. Our we related!?!?! Your a outstanding teacher. Colleges need to pay you money.
Just a side note: Nationalism has been just one of the factors of ww1. But it was way more complicated than just that.
People still forget to realize that human beings had always been engaged in wars way before the concept of nationalism was even established. :-P
I'd argue that nationalism is an integral manifestation of in-group bias and pride.
@@ender3960 Yeah! This is partially true, but humans had always been tribalistic before nationalism was even invented.
According to your interpretation.
Nationalism = Loving your wife
Patriotism = Loving your wife and mistress
No it's more
Nationalism: Love McDonald's hate every other fast food place
Patriotism: Love Burger King but don't mind eating or being around ppl who eat at other fast foods
In other words patriotism is all about the respect.
Patriotism: I love my country
Nationalism: I love my country. My country is the only good country
You definitely showed why Prager U's definition of nationalism is a bad definition, and you definitely showed why--under your definition of nationalism--nationalism is harmful, but I don't think you properly justified why we should accept your definition.
I always believed that nationalism was a general term for the desire to advance one's nation. Under my definition, nationalism could be a tool for both great good and great bad. If we define nationalism this way, Hitler and the regimes of the great powers pre WW1 were definitely nationalist, but so were Churchill, FDR, and virtually every other modern world leader.
I'm not trying to make a statement about which definition is more correct, but I believe that this issue has far more to do with definitions than you lead your viewers to believe, and I think a video on the subject should justify the definition it uses to draw its conclusions.
p.s. love your channel btw, have been going through your presidential election and state comparison videos recently.
You make a valid point.
@U Haul In terms of definitions, I would define "bad" as being incorrect or non-representative of how the term is commonly used
@U Haul I didn't say what nationalism was or wasn't. I just said that if you want people to accept your definition of a word, you have to be able to justify that definition.
@U Haul From whose assessment
@U Haul If you're not going to address my arguments and are instead going to attack *someone else's* definitions, why are we even having a discussion
I’m a nationalist, America first. I really don’t get why it’s bad to put your own nations needs above the needs of others. (Not to mention Europe is basically on welfare from America)
You can still be American First and not a nationalist.
niBBa, people literally leave the country for healthcare shut up.
@@Euro.Patriot and people literally leave other countries because they can’t get the treatments they need. Funny thing is the entire world is dependent on the American medical industry. Maybe educate yourself, shut up
5:30 I am skeptical that humans would magically unite in the face of external threat, or forget about national identities. I think we would temporarily focus on the external threat (with each individual and group using the situation to come out ahead).
'The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.' - Sydney J. Harris
Well said, Mr. Beat. And Patriotism is what we all really need right now, instead of nationalism.
You can still love America and hope for more improvement for America.
“Hitler wasn’t a nationalist” the word “nazi” is literally just short for the German word for national
More Mr. Beat dismantling of PragerU please
Nationalism-identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations
Other Meaning:
Is an idea and movement that holds that the nation should be congruent with the state. As a movement, nationalism tends to promote the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people), especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation's sovereignty (self-governance) over its homeland
Patriotism-the quality of being patriotic; devotion to and vigorous support for one's country
Ultranationalism-extreme nationalism that promotes the interests of one state or people above all others
Nationalism is actually right there is nothing wrong about being Nationalism. If you said Nationalism is evil then you mean the ultranationalism that is already a racist.
Eeh, I don't personally like nationalism in general. Not because "superiority" issues, but because the idea that I have to be bound and chained to a piece of map against my will just because others told me so... yeah, no right.
@@mekingtiger9095 Nationalism means maintaining self-governing. If you said Nationalism is about Superiority then you already mean ultranationalism
@@corpchannel2523 No, I don't mean ultranationalism. It is way worse than nationalism. But nationalism, the idea that people form organic societies based on a symbolic "unifying essence" that unites a people, doesn't sit right with me either. What if one day I decide that I am not like my compatriots? Should they force me to keep being a part of it because it is my "essence" (pffft) to be one of them? If I can just decide whoever I wanna associate with and that I am free to change my association target if I so desire, then the almost entire idea of "nations" falls apart due to differences between individuals and it becomes something nothing more than... well, symbolic. Actually, who even got to define this mysterious "essence" in the first place?
I don't like nationalism because it is _usually_ collectivist and often times essentialist for the most part. And since I am an individualist existentialist, this leaves an even worse taste in my mouth.
@@mekingtiger9095 i think Nationalism-Patriotism is a good idea for a nation
@@corpchannel2523 You mean in the sense of being happy and proud for posessing a certain share ideals and being happy about sharing this feeling with others who think alike? Sounds reasonable. But I'm still on the side that there are not really "nations" per see, only individuals...
Caught me lacking with the "there in the green shirt" lol. Great vid man!
We evolved as tribes, and it was a vital part of human survival, and that really isn’t going to change. It’s very primal. When Global elitists try to push tribes w very different ideologies to live together, especially in small physical areas like England, this is where you start to see lots of social unrest and violence, And lots of competition for the same finite resources. Nationalism is the symptom of feeling threatened and burdened by the increasing number of especially poor minorities being either allowed in or pushed in, And straining the social welfare budgets of the host nation. There is much less problem when the incoming tribes can support themselves and will assimilate with the host nation. When they remain apart, wave the flag of the country they left, yet expect to be propped up financially by the host, and refuse to follow the host laws, This is especially when things get divisive.
Amen.
I am glad that muslims are never tought to be nationalists from the first day we were tought to be a body if the one part of body is suffering the other feels the same pain as the suffered part❤️ we truly believe in patriotism 💓
You're a good guy, Mr Beat. I think your channel is one of the few that take an approach that I'd actually call "Balanced." Keep it up!
Hi Mr. Beat! I liked this video and appreciate your intent to educate. I agree that the term “Nationalism” has a very real dark underbelly that “Patriotism” avoids, namely that the core of Nationalism is setting a specific definition of what identifies you as being part of the nation versus what doesn’t. While Patriotism is simply a deep, self professed allegiance to your nation.
Anyone can proclaim allegiance to ones home country. In Nationalism, as expressed historically, there is a political effort to define who belongs and often a struggle to ensure those who belong gain or maintain power over those who don’t. So mixed in with those extreme examples of nationalists in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Militaristic Imperial Japan, you also have examples like Italian nationalism under Giuseppe Garibaldi, Turkish nationalism under Kemal Ataturk, Pan-Arab nationalism under Gamal Nasser, and Indian nationalism under Nehru and inspired by Gandhi. In all of these cases, Nationalism was intertwined with a struggle, by force of arms and/or non violent action, to ensure that a defined national identity either obtain power over a nation or extend the influence of this identity’s power beyond the nation.
I think that dark underbelly of nationalism that is prone cause blitzkrieg to roll over Poland and massacre trainloads of refugees during the partition of India is commonly referred to as “jingoism”, the aggressive flexing of power of a defined national group over those who do not belong to that group.
Anyway, thanks for your video and demonstration of puppetry.
excellent video
Thanks so much :D
You define the 2 terms then tell what can be done in the wrong hands. A pencil is a tool till it kills, then it's a weapon. It's hard to say, "I'm proud of my Country, It's ordinary like all others"
"Long ago, it was discovered that the key to human freedom is to build political life out of this natural loyalty."
A single sentence can't be THAT loaded by mere accident.
1. "Long ago, it was discovered (...)"
-Who discovered it and what where their methods? This is deliberately framed to sound like some scientific discovery.
2."(...) that the key to human freedom(...)"
-And of course that scientific discovery produced the one singular objective way to exclusive 'true freedom'.
3."(...)to build poilitical life out of this natural loyalty."
- Oh boy... So now it is the natural order. Nations are the 'natural order'. Loyalty to that nation is the 'natural order'. And being 'disloyal' against his naturalnation/community/family is unnatural. Perverse. And of course we come back to the 'true freedom'. As it turns out, 'true freedom' isn't what people casually see as freedom. True freedom is being loyal to the natural order of politics. True freedom is loyalty to the natural order of the nation.
So lets sum up:
Wise men, discovered an objective truth, that the "key to freedom" is to build off the natural loyalty to family/community/nation. True freedom isn't being your own master. No, that's obscene talk. True freedom is found in loyalty to the nation, which is of course the natural order of things. True freedom is loyalty. Let that sink in. I think Orwell was mentioned less than a minute before.
I went to school in Germany, so excuse me if i can't help but find this oddly familiar.
Keep in mind, PragerU is American, so it’s understand of freedom will be different from yours as a German, and it releases almost all of its material as short 5 minute videos on a topic with a guest presenter, so the videos are super simplified, will likely leave gaps in logic to save time, and they, along with most viewers, aren’t thinking on the level of close reading like you did. They don’t explain themselves well, and then RUclipsrs clip them out of context and it gets even worse, so I’ll try to explain what I think they’re saying.
1. “Long ago it was discovered” they’re almost certainly talking about the enlightenment that put human liberty front and center, and often utilized a natural law approach. Natural law has its own problems, but if the speaker subscribes to it, then it will be entirely logical to them to say that an answer about our eternal humanity was discovered in deriving natural rights from what classic liberal philosophers reasoned. Remember that natural law was like the political version of natural science, and likewise believed that an immense amount of truth could be reasoned out through philosophy and “discovered”, just like natural science believes the scientific method can discover truths about the natural world. The speaker would believe that human nature is unchanging through time, and if human liberty is natural (which is basically an axiom for them), then what was true of human nature and political science in the 18th century will be true now.
2. “Key to human freedom”. Enlightenment liberalism believed that human reason was the same across the whole human species, so what was true freedom for one man was true freedom for all mankind. This is why they needed the “scientific” approach of natural law and reason to try and establish an objective standard of liberty for all of man. From this approach, it would seem as a key to human freedom, not just to American freedom. That’s why in America, left wing people (what we call liberals or neoliberals, even though many are actually progressives) are more likely to believe in globalism and international governing bodies, while the right in America (including PragerU) is more nationalist and believes our nation’s people should determine our liberty while other nations’ peoples should determine their own liberty. That’s one of the main differences between Liberalism and Conservatism in the USA.
3. “To build political life around this natural loyalty”. Here they were trying to point out the truth you’ve probably heard that “all politics is local”. America was founded in rebellion against a King by men well acquainted with European history (well-tutored and wealthy English subjects in the colonies of North America). They especially didn’t want Kings, an official church, or an empire, so they built a government they thought would keep those from happening. Kings, Lords, Dukes, emperors, etc. kept Europe in a state of war constantly with power over their people derived, supposedly, from God. The American founders took this, flipped it on its head, and resolved that the sovereignty of every individual was the true divine right, not of royalty, hence the all men are “endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights” talk in the Declaration of Independence. Then came the part of the philosophy where governments were seen as established by the people for the protections of their natural rights. In the absence of a government, people are already very loyal to themselves and to their families and may be loyal to communities, so these should remain the top loyalties in the new government constitution. The people have some loyalty to their government, but also have a lot of freedom. People are naturally loyal to their family and themselves (their values/decisions). This is a very powerful loyalty that does not need to be legislated and only operates on fundamental levels. Then the community, which people identify with, then there’s the general government, which, depending on the size of the populace, can be very far removed from the people. Being more loyal to that government than to your family or your neighbors made little sense at that time, so the US constitution was set up to keep the most power closest to the people and keep their rights very well protected.
4. Conclusion: They’re not saying Loyalty is Freedom, they’re saying Freedom is the right to be Loyal to who you want. If you didn’t like the king that could draft or tax you at any time or the Noble that owned you, tough luck. If you don’t like your state, you can move to another one. If you don’t like the nation, you can move to another one. It’s that simple. Look at the pyramid they showed in the video, they clearly make loyalty to the nation the smallest part of the pyramid, and even make sure to turn it upside down to make clear that loyalty to the nation is not the top ideal, but rather the least important. Mr. Beat adds the planet on to the pyramid, but is still admitting by the shape that the loyalty to the planet is less than the loyalty to the nation. Yes, every nation work together if aliens invaded, but we all know which nations would put in disproportionate effort. No person anywhere feels more loyal to the UN than to their own government, just as pretty much nobody loves their nation more than they love their parents. What the guy is trying to say is that what he, and most Americans, believe is true freedom is allocating political power where loyalties naturally lay: the most in the individual, a lot in the family, a good amount in the community, some to the state, and not much at all to the federal government. Of course these days more people identify with the USA than their own state, but this is how it was drawn up.
I think most of your misunderstandings was from not noticing that the pyramid was upside down and was saying loyalty to the nation is important, but not as important as family and community or individual freedom.
In my opinion, Nationalism and right leaning political views were tainted because of Nazism and Fascism.
@bucky468
The republicans and democrats have essentially switched places. While the democrats were the party of racism, in the 50's they walked away from racism.
The republicans took up the Southern Strategy, and went after those racist voters. Look up the Southern Strategy on Wikipedia.
Fascism is a right wing movement.
Hitler killed all the socialists before he killed the Jews.
You believe stuff that's factually false, but that I've seen a lot of right wing people say.
Your historical illiteracy is why you are so easily lied to, and why you repeat lies.
@Eric, The Centrist & Nazi's Worst Nightmare oh shit xD how stiupid can you be? No debil...
@Eric, The Centrist & Nazi's Worst Nightmare antifa is a terrorist organisation and in fact dispite the name acts like a fasist. So fuckkkkk antifa !
@@bionicznycar6783 antifa are violent, yes, but for fucks sake stop throwing "fascism" around so much. they're not fascist.
@@sneedfeedandseed2410 he probably doesn't know what fascism is
“You can’t divorce your wife.”
“I don’t give a fuck, I’m the king.”
“Apathy! My only weakness!” *fades away*
4:41 WHAAAAAT!?!? How dare you associate with the 1984 monsters. I am an Animal Farm nationalist!
PragerU: Henry VIII was the first nationalist
me, a Catholic: huh, another reason to hate nationalism
Glad you gave concise definitions of patriotism and nationalism and the distinction between the two at the beginning and stuck with it throughout the video. It really helped with the points that followed.
A patriot has the ability to criticize their country while still loving it.
A nationalist sees criticism as an insult.
How u stay so unbiased in these political analysis is commendable
This is an excellent video. In fact, in my opinion, it might just be one of the best videos on RUclips, if not the single best video.
One of the most rational voices on social media today. Thank you for your contribution to a better informed Internet.
If I may add, the attitude of nationalism (me better than others) is seen on social media daily. Someone shares content. Then the creator gets attacked when the readers cannot respond critically to the content.
You demonstrate that we can address content without denigrating the creators of the content. Thank you.
I’ve been a patriot for a while but a little while ago I decided to take up the adjective “Nationalist” thinking that it was patriotism level 2 (which I guess it is but eh). Anyways I’m glad I went back to being a patriot because to me nationalist are... irrational.
3:19 his political party literally had Nationalist as the first word broski
Nationalist: a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
Natinalist: a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, even if those interests aren't necessarily what's best for other nations.
Fixed it for you.
@@jasonprior616 it's was fine the way it was
Cooperation is good, but forced or coerced cooperation is bad, obviously.
You bet
America should strive to be a Patriotic Country.
Malaysia does enjoy having good diplomatic relations with USA... And USA should never destroy it!
Breathe of clean air in smog . Light of reason in darkness. Preach on, bro!
I'm neither a patriot, or nationalist.
I just want peace, and could care less about were the hell I live.
also, I hate nationalisim.
Eh peace isn’t worth any cost. Pacifism gets people killed, generally because the nationalists take advantage of it. You’ve got to draw a line in the sand eventually.
@@baneofbanes I don't need patriotism to stand/fight agenst nationalists.
and I didn't state Pacifism.
Nationalism does not usually lead to war. That is simply untrue, it CAN, but does not always nor usually. Furthermore nationalism can protect and unite a nation like no other force.
“The EU has lead to more freedom”
Article 13 says hi
The problem is that what’s good for us might not be good for them. Cooperation between nations is a tricky thing and needs to be looked at from as many perspectives as possible.
Thanks for Fully Explaining
with EXACT Clarity
How those 2 Terms Differ.
Will try to Make VIRAL !!!
1:25 What a flag to choose, especially given current events.
You know you literally have a flag in your profile picture that represents the OUN?!?! 😂 You know they massacred over 100k Polish and Jewish people? 😂
@@takodapowers8515 good
Your take on the EU in the video seems idealistic - they have not led to more freedom (depending on how you define it I guess). Per debate in Brussels - one MP stated explicitly he wanted individual countries to transfer their sovereignty to the European commission - so you're being selective about what is really wanted (Guy Verhofstadt is the person who said it).
Anyone who supports the EU supports global government and therefore hates humanity.
It's funny when people from countries who fought for independence from us is now judging us for wanting independence.