It’s crazy how irrational you think when you’re in that headspace. Thank God for your brother replying to you. I don’t know you but I am glad you survived that experience because things are never as dire as you imagine them at the time and as long as you’re alive you can turn things around. Money comes and goes but your life is the most valuable thing there is.
As someone with a 17 year gambling addiction that has gone from crippling debts to "controlling it" ie betting half my disposable and convincing myself it's not too bad, cheers mate. Alot of phrases you used hit home. Such a weird addiction to people who don't understand it
@@bluenosebrum8164 at least with all other addictions, you get something for your money, then you take it and it alters your mind. Gambling isn't an addiction, it's just pathetic. My local pub is full of them, always so keen to balloon about how much they won, never, and I mean never mention how much they lose. Pathetic..
Wow very tough to share, but really appreciate this episode. I've got several friends who are very deep into gambling addictions (they've never admitted in front of me but I know) and this is really explaining a lot of things
It's a shame these gambling sites are allowed, basically exploiting desperation. The thing everyone always says is they kept trying to win the money back.
@@musicfuhrer in the UK it's endemic, most UK high streets have multiple bookies. Gambling is relentlessly advertised alongside sport to the extent it's almost unavoidable. I've got friends who work in the dev side of several big gambling companies and it's disgustingly exploitative, they're actively trying to encourage people to get to this point
Gambling industry is disgustingly predatory; the UK is pretty bad, but in Australia the level of TV advertising and slot machines everywhere - it's almost beyond belief. Ironically in the US (where I now live) it's relatively low key, not everywhere you look...
People who dont or have never gambled have know idea what its like when you have hit rock bottom and have lost everything would still believe they can turn it all around with one more bet, my advice is never start in the first place not all of us come out the other side to tell the story
It is not ridiculous, probably won't happen because the government gets a very fat and juicy tax cut from casinos, in many cities like vegas, gambling comprises of about 60% of the city's entire GDP So ofc it is evil but eh that's just life.@@johnennis4586
New laws are trying to stop the degenrate gamblers, they are really quite lengthy and in-depth, and should stop a lot of them now. These new laws are total overkill, stopping the vast number of normal people from "gambling", but they will hopefully get honed and start to target the people with huge gambling issues. I know because I've had to sit through the safer gambling checks, as I'm someone that is learning how to bet and trade responsibly specifically for profit, i.e. financially safely with money I can afford to easily lose. Gambling is ancient, enjoyed for centuries, and is a casual joy to the majority who aren't addicts, so it can't be evil. Casinos could be considered evil, because that whole set up is designed to only let you lose, especially fixed terminal slot machines, which are zero skill money hoovers. Traditional bookies can also be considered evil, because they only operate by causing their customers to lose (legally they don't have to give you winnings, amazingly), and until the recent safety legislation have managed to attract as many "high rollers", i.e. severely addicted punters who lose vast amounts, as they could. These same companies have also recently introduced things like taking your deposit from you if you don't use their site over a period of time, they also make money off your depsoits through interest-like situations. BUT, on the flipside, betting exchanges like Betfair, Smarkets and BetDaq have created a platform for people to exchange bets at good (not bad bookie) odds, and only take a small amount of your winnings, e.g. 2-5%. Some have created a Casino side, which is morally dubious, but at least from a sports betting side of things, everyone shoudl really be using an exchange if they want to bet on anything, they won't get refused winning cash and get the fairest profit. You name yourself as curious, and seem emotive about it, so get curious about this gambling malarkey, and find out a bit more. It should not be stopped, and is not pure evil. The part of UK society that actually is a degenerate gambler is small, albeit much larger than I'd previously thought, at half a percent, the vast majority seem to enjoy casual or serious betting without issues. Many now are looking at it as an alternative and potentially big side income, achievable though good, honest hard work. Like most things, you need to issue an appropriate response to problem gambling, and not throw the good out with the bad.
lots of us know how to enjoy gambling without going to extremes. There's a very big difference from people who like to put 20 quid in the slots on the weekend and people putting £58k bets on a horse. Just as banning narcotics didn't stop anyone from taking them, banning gambling wont help problem gamblers, it'll just push it underground and put them in more harm.
New gambling safety laws should heavily put a stop to many people who can't stop gambling, and gamble in a very damaging way. I know this because, although I'm a responsible gambler looking to learn how to do it professionally, I've recently had my account restricted and reviewed to may sure I'm not endangering myself. Amazing people, such as the one in this video, do really need the help, and should never have been allowed to go near any betting places. People with significant issues gambling are about 0.5% of the UK population apprently, so it is not an insignificant amount, but nowhere near the majority. Hopefully these new safer gambling checks get honed to the point that they don't stop the regular or professional bettor/trader from enjoying themselves. Traditional bookies and online/offline casinos are the most problematic areas of gambling for perilously addicted, because their whole business model is to make you lose so they can profit. Bookies used to specifically target people with huge bad gambling habits (high rollers) offer bad odds (i.e. less profit from a win) by law don't have to pay winnings, amazingly, which they frequently exercise. These safer gambling laws should be more lenient on sports betting exchanges, where the best odds possible are available in a free market type environment, and the company that created the exchange only benefits from wins, taking a 2-5% cut of the profit. For the vast majority of people gambling is an addition to something else they're doing that is enjoyable, e.g. being at a sporting event or learning how to manage risk effectively to be profitable, therefore it gambling should NOT be shut down due to a tiny few, and it (e.g. exchanges, where everyone should really be sports betting anyway) are not evil. Professionals or those with gambling problems should not be pushed into a suddenly growing black market, remember gambling has been around for centuries, it isn't going anywhere, and doesn't need to. It can simply modernise, as it is doing right now. Curious-Minds should actually be curious, and let his/her mind learn about this area more.
Huge tax rises on it is not going to stop it, just the government will profit more from the victims of gambling addiction than they already do at the moment
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It’s crazy how irrational you think when you’re in that headspace.
Thank God for your brother replying to you.
I don’t know you but I am glad you survived that experience because things are never as dire as you imagine them at the time and as long as you’re alive you can turn things around.
Money comes and goes but your life is the most valuable thing there is.
I'm so glad you didn't end it all, and thank you for being so honest. I wish you all the best for the future.
As someone just starting the recovery process from addiction this was really helpful to hear.
As someone with a 17 year gambling addiction that has gone from crippling debts to "controlling it" ie betting half my disposable and convincing myself it's not too bad, cheers mate.
Alot of phrases you used hit home. Such a weird addiction to people who don't understand it
Thank you for your comment
The reason why people don't get it, is because it's the most pathetic addiction.
@markjones1337 as is getting brave on RUclips comments with strangers mark lol.
Strange comment son
@@bluenosebrum8164 at least with all other addictions, you get something for your money, then you take it and it alters your mind.
Gambling isn't an addiction, it's just pathetic.
My local pub is full of them, always so keen to balloon about how much they won, never, and I mean never mention how much they lose. Pathetic..
I don't make long comments. So just well done Patrick, keep it up. I am sure sharing will help some others and you.
Pat actually played cricket for a club in my league a couple of years ago and was a great guy. Inspiring story! All the best, Pat.
Wow very tough to share, but really appreciate this episode. I've got several friends who are very deep into gambling addictions (they've never admitted in front of me but I know) and this is really explaining a lot of things
Absolutely!
This episode was really really thought provoking. So sad, but also so educational. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for watching!
It's a shame these gambling sites are allowed, basically exploiting desperation. The thing everyone always says is they kept trying to win the money back.
Gambling will happen anyway, so it's best it is done legally. Otherwise, it will be in the hands of the criminals like drugs are.
@@musicfuhrer in the UK it's endemic, most UK high streets have multiple bookies. Gambling is relentlessly advertised alongside sport to the extent it's almost unavoidable. I've got friends who work in the dev side of several big gambling companies and it's disgustingly exploitative, they're actively trying to encourage people to get to this point
Appreciate you for sharing your experience. Thanks to the Deep team as well
Thank you for watching!
Gambling industry is disgustingly predatory; the UK is pretty bad, but in Australia the level of TV advertising and slot machines everywhere - it's almost beyond belief. Ironically in the US (where I now live) it's relatively low key, not everywhere you look...
In an economy where money is tight and normal people are struggling, gambling industry thrives
People who dont or have never gambled have know idea what its like when you have hit rock bottom and have lost everything would still believe they can turn it all around with one more bet, my advice is never start in the first place not all of us come out the other side to tell the story
I’ve always said the worst thing you can do first time in a casino is win
Just lost 5,000 savings this weekend. £500 left need to win it back
🤞
You will lose that 500 as well, 💯 Guaranteed
@@SEANPOL203 I know, it’s so obvious 😂
It's gone bruv move on trust me. You will be down 50,000
Shut down all gambling in the UK.
If certain narcotics are illegal then there is no reason not to ban gambling. Its pure evil.
That is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen written down
It is not ridiculous, probably won't happen because the government gets a very fat and juicy tax cut from casinos, in many cities like vegas, gambling comprises of about 60% of the city's entire GDP
So ofc it is evil but eh that's just life.@@johnennis4586
New laws are trying to stop the degenrate gamblers, they are really quite lengthy and in-depth, and should stop a lot of them now. These new laws are total overkill, stopping the vast number of normal people from "gambling", but they will hopefully get honed and start to target the people with huge gambling issues. I know because I've had to sit through the safer gambling checks, as I'm someone that is learning how to bet and trade responsibly specifically for profit, i.e. financially safely with money I can afford to easily lose. Gambling is ancient, enjoyed for centuries, and is a casual joy to the majority who aren't addicts, so it can't be evil. Casinos could be considered evil, because that whole set up is designed to only let you lose, especially fixed terminal slot machines, which are zero skill money hoovers. Traditional bookies can also be considered evil, because they only operate by causing their customers to lose (legally they don't have to give you winnings, amazingly), and until the recent safety legislation have managed to attract as many "high rollers", i.e. severely addicted punters who lose vast amounts, as they could. These same companies have also recently introduced things like taking your deposit from you if you don't use their site over a period of time, they also make money off your depsoits through interest-like situations. BUT, on the flipside, betting exchanges like Betfair, Smarkets and BetDaq have created a platform for people to exchange bets at good (not bad bookie) odds, and only take a small amount of your winnings, e.g. 2-5%. Some have created a Casino side, which is morally dubious, but at least from a sports betting side of things, everyone shoudl really be using an exchange if they want to bet on anything, they won't get refused winning cash and get the fairest profit.
You name yourself as curious, and seem emotive about it, so get curious about this gambling malarkey, and find out a bit more. It should not be stopped, and is not pure evil. The part of UK society that actually is a degenerate gambler is small, albeit much larger than I'd previously thought, at half a percent, the vast majority seem to enjoy casual or serious betting without issues. Many now are looking at it as an alternative and potentially big side income, achievable though good, honest hard work. Like most things, you need to issue an appropriate response to problem gambling, and not throw the good out with the bad.
lots of us know how to enjoy gambling without going to extremes. There's a very big difference from people who like to put 20 quid in the slots on the weekend and people putting £58k bets on a horse. Just as banning narcotics didn't stop anyone from taking them, banning gambling wont help problem gamblers, it'll just push it underground and put them in more harm.
New gambling safety laws should heavily put a stop to many people who can't stop gambling, and gamble in a very damaging way. I know this because, although I'm a responsible gambler looking to learn how to do it professionally, I've recently had my account restricted and reviewed to may sure I'm not endangering myself. Amazing people, such as the one in this video, do really need the help, and should never have been allowed to go near any betting places.
People with significant issues gambling are about 0.5% of the UK population apprently, so it is not an insignificant amount, but nowhere near the majority. Hopefully these new safer gambling checks get honed to the point that they don't stop the regular or professional bettor/trader from enjoying themselves.
Traditional bookies and online/offline casinos are the most problematic areas of gambling for perilously addicted, because their whole business model is to make you lose so they can profit. Bookies used to specifically target people with huge bad gambling habits (high rollers) offer bad odds (i.e. less profit from a win) by law don't have to pay winnings, amazingly, which they frequently exercise. These safer gambling laws should be more lenient on sports betting exchanges, where the best odds possible are available in a free market type environment, and the company that created the exchange only benefits from wins, taking a 2-5% cut of the profit.
For the vast majority of people gambling is an addition to something else they're doing that is enjoyable, e.g. being at a sporting event or learning how to manage risk effectively to be profitable, therefore it gambling should NOT be shut down due to a tiny few, and it (e.g. exchanges, where everyone should really be sports betting anyway) are not evil. Professionals or those with gambling problems should not be pushed into a suddenly growing black market, remember gambling has been around for centuries, it isn't going anywhere, and doesn't need to. It can simply modernise, as it is doing right now.
Curious-Minds should actually be curious, and let his/her mind learn about this area more.
you will never meet a poor bookie
I do feel sorry for these people. would like to see huge tax rises on gambling.
That wouldn't help. The issue with any addiction is no matter what the cost, youll believe youll come out better on the other end.
@@kylekyle2445 yes but high levels of taxation would dramatically reduce the amount of gambling.
@@kylekyle2445atleast the money goes to the government instead of the casino owner
I mean ig the money going to either won't help society so lmao.
Huge tax rises on it is not going to stop it, just the government will profit more from the victims of gambling addiction than they already do at the moment
@@SEANPOL203 that will be a positive step.
dont think patrick will get a job has a tipster
I Bet you 500 you don't?
I’ve always said the worst thing you can do first time in a casino is win