Great video an incredibly informative as per usual. Thanks for sharing and we are excited to help you on your journey of getting you license in Oregon.
I install James Hardie siding for a living up in Canada. For board and batten we always strap out the walls with 1x4 straps so that condensation doesn’t build up between the sheets and the wall. We use colour matched James Hardie battens so that they match the sheet colour perfectly and use colour match aluminum for all the flashings.
When you do your layout for battens I’ve heard that you have to nail though the studs but many times on gables studs are not centered in the peak so what is more important the looks or to nails in the studs even if you know that batten are not gonna look good and it also happen with windows
@@maynorgantenbein4510 there should be osb sheeting so that you can put your battens where you need. No need to nail into studs. Or if you have to nail into studs you can run strapping horizontally
@@maynorgantenbein4510Did you find an answer to your question? I am wondering the same thing and am considering centering the framing on the gable walls so that studs, strapping, and battens all align and are centered on the peak.
I’ve found out that a dewalt nibbler does a great job cutting the hardie board. There’s literally minimum to no extreme dust and the cuts are very clean. You just have to look at your cut line & make sure that the sides of the nibbler is on it. Do a little practice on a scrap piece and I think you’ll enjoy using it, instead of using a saw with a hardie-blade.
Preparing to have my siding done on my new construction home and wanted to know more about the process. This video was so helpful! Thanks so much for sharing.
I'm planning on GCing my personal house build and was hoping to do the B&B myself. You always put out top notch (informative) content. Really appreciate it.
Great videos Matt , they’re very helpful . 2 questions. Do the painters usually caulk both sides of the batten before painting ? Do you notch out the bottom of the belly band a bit to slide the panels up or just Butt up and caulk the line
Hurry up getting Oregon license, cuz soon it'll be difficult finding new crew members there. They won't learn math in high school anymore 😊 Keep the good job. Guys like you are our hope for the future of this country🇺🇸
He said he wasn't concerned about moisture there, but yeah, you're supposed to. Some installers caulk that gap and make it tight like Matt. Not correct per mfg., but they want a seamless look. This is also the reason that board and batten is still installed with 1x12x16' boards because they want it seamless from top to bottom.
Aside from nails, can you use screws? and if so, would it be bugle head screws such as Backer-On or regular galvanized screws (pre-drill before using screws)?
The one bummer about board and Batton and this particular method is that the trim pieces on top of doors and windows don’t get flashed, which is a common place for water to sit. The only solution really is to trim the windows and doors first, than flash the trim and then cut your panels to butt onto the outside of the trim, which is a hard cut to get looking nice. Any other suggestions?
Question, 8:55 mark, would it be beneficial to router out a drip edge on the underside of your belly band feature so that water doesn't pull into the underside seam? Or is that just overkill?
Wouldnt it be better to put flashing over bottom of siding before putting channel over . And then flash the channel before putting top piece of siding over that ?
great vids matt,does each side of a panel have to land on a stud if 1/2 fir plywood is the substraid?? james hardie site says yes and if not then a special passload nail is required
hey matt, are you using any adhesive under mid bands, battens, or trim? ive found a bead of quid nails with a 2” 15ga stainless through composite or pvc batts and trim when possible to be holding up quite well and we are on the coast of SC and we have some crazy build codes on anything east of I95. thumbs up on the 24” zontal line. learn sumpm new everyday….lol, hope that never stops!
Killer Video Matt! I'm ripping off my stucco and installing james hardie board. How the you finish the bottom around stairs? Look like on another vid there is a gap. Do you have caulk? I have exposed eaves with 2x6. Is it best to cut out everyone one or put a 1x4 in between? If cut out, how do you finish the edges? Just caulk? Thanks!
@@ceesup6498 when doing a reno and adding backing is not feasible passload makes a special nail that grabs into the plywood .Most renos are hard to add backing to existing walls and even new builds if insulation and drywall is done
Maybe I missed it. Do you start your sheets in the middle of the wall as well? As in land your first sheet splitting the centre of the wall and working your way out to the ends? I have a board and batten job coming up soon so this video is hugely helpful thank Matt
Huge thanks to Upstrye for working with me as I get licensed in OR.. Surprisingly, there is a ton of differences in CA to OR licensing. If you're interested in getting licensed for yourself, or just want resources to gain knowledge in the industry.. upstryve.com/
@@ALRob288 They do, but there is much different licenses for regular residential to commercial. Where as California, I can build smaller commercial with the same license, along with Multi Family.
@@MattBangsWood dude I know the feeling the wife and I are prego with our first one right now. Just know that Oregon is far liberal than california if that doesn’t bother you. I was actually born in Oregon and live in big bear now
I will run James Hardie horizontal planks and I want my gable to be vertical plank. The trim piece that goes in between, does it need a z bar flashing above it or below it?
Question, You built this super bomber envelope using zipsystems 👍. You liquid flashed for air tightness and water intrusion 👍. Used concrete products for longevity👍. Wheres the air gap for your rain screen?
@ryansilagi3228 you're right it was only 10 to 15 years ago. We got the house 20 years ago but didn't do the siding/windows until later. The point remains the same though. It worked great on my home. We painted it and never touched it again since. The paint di fade though so we would have needed to paint it again.
How do you figure out where the middle band board goes? If you're stacking 2 sheets do you put it how ever tall it is? Or do you find a fascia nearby and go with that and cut down each sheet? I'm getting ready to do mine but I haven't worked with hardie much lol. Big cut up house to. Do you flash the sheet and band board at the same time or seperate?
Great vid. I have no flange, European style windows. They sit flush with the sheathing. You got any pointers on how to finish off the edge of the Hardie panel before I install the window trim?
Hey Matt do trim everything last, like over all the sheets. Corners, belly band , bottom starter band , trim around doors windows etc. I’m using 5/4 trim idk if i need to trim first then install 4x8 sheets thanks
Hi Matt, great video....I just have a question for you. I'm considering putting this up and just wanted to know a couple of things. 1) Is it necessary to caulk each one of the battings after install? 2) Can I use wood firing strips as opposed to the James Hardie ones, or where can I get the ones you use? Thanx, Donna
Hey Donna! 1) No, you don't need to, we just prefer it as it gives it a cleaner look, better finish. It's not necessarily for waterproofing as we have ZIP sheathing and aren't worried about a bit of water. 2) You can! That's the joy of board and batten and originally where it came from, was wood siding. 1x12" boards, with small 1x4" covering the joints. You can absolutely use a 1x2 or 1x3 as a replacement to the James Hardie Battens. This building was done with AdvantagePLUS trim and battens, but the product has since been replaced as they had a major issue with their glues back in COVID days.. They're not supplied to us anymore.
Another well explained on every detail that is needed and should be noted. As a Certified Home Inspector I was happy to see your explanation between the siding nail and a finishing nail. As there are a lot of times you won't see nail head sizes due to the over lay. One thing I see a lot is that builder don't switch between the nail guns and I find after looking closely a ton of finishing nail heads. All ask, well "what's the problem with that, besides a lazy builder not changing to the proper sliding nail gun and nail head size." Answer is simple, as I said before If installed correctly you shouldnt find many head nail exposed in the first place. But the biggest reason why you are to use a sliding nail with a head is to keep the wind from slamming against the outside structure and lifting the James Hardie or LP siding w and ripping it off the wall. As Matt said the ring shanks they're pretty tough to pull out at that with a big diameter head keeps it in place rather using finishing nail the wind would be able to just pull the sliding right off that tiny nail head.
Matt - could you share your opinion about the LP Smart Siding as an alternative to fiber cement products? The silica dust from cutting fiber cement is a BIG concern of mine as it causes serious lung problems.
I had HB siding installed recently and they spaced the vertical pieces 13.5" apart but the windows aren't uniform. I can't upload a photo in the comments. Can I email you a pic? The manager is coming out to see what I'm talking about. I need to know how do I get them to fix this so the windows look uniform?
What if the home where I'm taking out rotten sheets has bats placed at 14" (inside diameter) ofcourse I want everything uniform consistent. Also home was built in the 70's so likely has asbestos throughout. Too costly to replace every inch of siding but HOA has given home owner a notice.
Ive got a manufactured home, how would my layout be determined to land correctly. Im pretty sure I dont have plywood under my T111. Only concern I have for doing the siding on my place this summer. And if you dont get back to me I totally understand!
Thank you for a very informative video. We have very old vinyl siding and live in the high desert of Nevada, where the wind and sun take it's toll. We are also rural, so we are considering having our contractor friend come help us do this. Thank you again!
Hi great video I’m about to use this same material it do a ship lap design for a old mobile home I’m restoring to have a modern tiny house look . Very helpful information! When you look up hardy board it’s misleading so this video was very helpful to me ! I instantly subscribed thank you
Do you think it's necessary to caulk where the bats meet the boards ? It seems like it would be a good idea at least on the ones covering the sheet joints.
I’ve seen people not use caulk and in my opinion it looks terrible. On a decent size house you’ll use boxes and boxes of caulk but it’s definitely worth it.
Great video an incredibly informative as per usual. Thanks for sharing and we are excited to help you on your journey of getting you license in Oregon.
What part of Oregon are you moving to?
I install James Hardie siding for a living up in Canada. For board and batten we always strap out the walls with 1x4 straps so that condensation doesn’t build up between the sheets and the wall. We use colour matched James Hardie battens so that they match the sheet colour perfectly and use colour match aluminum for all the flashings.
When you do your layout for battens I’ve heard that you have to nail though the studs but many times on gables studs are not centered in the peak so what is more important the looks or to nails in the studs even if you know that batten are not gonna look good and it also happen with windows
@@maynorgantenbein4510 there should be osb sheeting so that you can put your battens where you need. No need to nail into studs. Or if you have to nail into studs you can run strapping horizontally
What does strap out the walls mean?
@@4me2poop0nUthey are talking about a rain screen or an air gap behind the siding so that it can stay dry.
@@maynorgantenbein4510Did you find an answer to your question? I am wondering the same thing and am considering centering the framing on the gable walls so that studs, strapping, and battens all align and are centered on the peak.
Nicely done. The best concise instructions and tips I've seen re this subject. Thank you.
I’ve found out that a dewalt nibbler does a great job cutting the hardie board. There’s literally minimum to no extreme dust and the cuts are very clean. You just have to look at your cut line & make sure that the sides of the nibbler is on it. Do a little practice on a scrap piece and I think you’ll enjoy using it, instead of using a saw with a hardie-blade.
Preparing to have my siding done on my new construction home and wanted to know more about the process. This video was so helpful! Thanks so much for sharing.
I'm planning on GCing my personal house build and was hoping to do the B&B myself. You always put out top notch (informative) content. Really appreciate it.
You can also use the electric scissor that’s made to cut the James Hardie boards and I think we can use that for most of the cuts
Great videos Matt , they’re very helpful . 2 questions. Do the painters usually caulk both sides of the batten before painting ?
Do you notch out the bottom of the belly band a bit to slide the panels up or just Butt up and caulk the line
Hurry up getting Oregon license, cuz soon it'll be difficult finding new crew members there. They won't learn math in high school anymore 😊 Keep the good job. Guys like you are our hope for the future of this country🇺🇸
Shouldn’t you gap the panel a 1/4” above the Z-flashing to avoid capillary action?
He said he wasn't concerned about moisture there, but yeah, you're supposed to. Some installers caulk that gap and make it tight like Matt. Not correct per mfg., but they want a seamless look. This is also the reason that board and batten is still installed with 1x12x16' boards because they want it seamless from top to bottom.
Great video! What is the orange red product under the board and batten? And is it installed over plywood siding?
Aside from nails, can you use screws? and if so, would it be bugle head screws such as Backer-On or regular galvanized screws (pre-drill before using screws)?
If you aren't using Hardie boards for your battens, what type of wood are you using?
We need to get you to 1M subs.
The one bummer about board and Batton and this particular method is that the trim pieces on top of doors and windows don’t get flashed, which is a common place for water to sit. The only solution really is to trim the windows and doors first, than flash the trim and then cut your panels to butt onto the outside of the trim, which is a hard cut to get looking nice. Any other suggestions?
Question, 8:55 mark, would it be beneficial to router out a drip edge on the underside of your belly band feature so that water doesn't pull into the underside seam? Or is that just overkill?
What are you using for the belly band? Looks like a normal 2x10.
DeWalt has a fiberboard shear gun that practically eliminates the dust
Thanks for posting this video
Very helpful
THAAAANK YOUUUU FOR THIS VIDEO !!
Thanks Matt, great video
What finish nail was that. Great video as alway. Watching you has helped me build my 12x16 shop/shed.
POV installing hardie in 106* coming soon.
sooooo excited!!! Thanks Matt
Empathetic of that matt ! Stay hydrated.💪👍
Nice a lot of good information 🤩
Just curious why wouldnt u use rainscreen under siding
Wouldnt it be better to put flashing over bottom of siding before putting channel over . And then flash the channel before putting top piece of siding over that ?
What type of wood is the 1x2 you use?
great vids matt,does each side of a panel have to land on a stud if 1/2 fir plywood is the substraid??
james hardie site says yes and if not then a special passload nail is required
hey matt, are you using any adhesive under mid bands, battens, or trim? ive found a bead of quid nails with a 2” 15ga stainless through composite or pvc batts and trim when possible to be holding up quite well and we are on the coast of SC and we have some crazy build codes on anything east of I95. thumbs up on the 24” zontal line. learn sumpm new everyday….lol, hope that never stops!
Killer Video Matt! I'm ripping off my stucco and installing james hardie board. How the you finish the bottom around stairs? Look like on another vid there is a gap. Do you have caulk? I have exposed eaves with 2x6. Is it best to cut out everyone one or put a 1x4 in between? If cut out, how do you finish the edges? Just caulk? Thanks!
Does hardie board and Batten have to be nailed in the trusses? And if so how are you suppose to have a good lay out
Great video thank you
5:39 Great Value Uriah Faber
So what's the standard overhang? I've seen people do 1&1/2 inch 1&1/4, and now I'm seeing you do 1 inch overhang. I'm still learning.
Can cdx sheathing be used for the siding? Would it stand up to the weather if it was caulked and painted?
I was wondering, the corner trim not supposed to overlap the sheets? The battens overlap, but not any trim right?
Do you caulk any of the Hardie siding anywhere. Thanks
With saw blade do you us to cut with? Is a Diamond Masonary blade
when installing Colour Plus prefinished panels and battens, is it necessary to caulk the sides of all battens?
What happens when the framing layout don’t break at center like the gables u just shoot the sheets on plywood?? Not on studs?
Great content as always! Stoked to see another video!
If you live near ocean, regular zebra will rust water still leak.
so how are you supposed to center the panels if the studs aren't centered because installation instructions says the panels must break on studs
How do you cut the top part of the house, by the roof?
The couple times I have done hardie board and batten. We put the flashing over the window trim. Was a little bit more math but I think a better way
I'm unsure about one thing. Hardie seems to recommend that the panels be nailed into a stud. What if the layout doesn't quite line up with the studs?
That’s where layout comes into play. Add flat studs where needed for your desired finish layout. Pre planning is key for b&b install
@@ceesup6498 when doing a reno and adding backing is not feasible passload makes a special nail that grabs into the plywood .Most renos are hard to add backing to existing walls and even new builds if insulation and drywall is done
I like the pictures. Im not good with words
Maybe I missed it. Do you start your sheets in the middle of the wall as well? As in land your first sheet splitting the centre of the wall and working your way out to the ends?
I have a board and batten job coming up soon so this video is hugely helpful thank Matt
Hey Matt great content! Do you fill your finished nail holes on the batts after?
I would also like to know the answer to this ? The nail heads kinda look ugly on batts.. so wondering what to do ?
The nail heads keep the bats on in high winds. You want the nail head. Paint it if it bothers you. It will disappear when you stand a few feet away
Is that a balooned wall???
fukin awesome
hardware link?
took me two hours to find somebody that Actually knows what they are talking about. thank you! subscribed.
Cheers.
Lot of DIY Masters on YT..
@@MattBangsWood I’m a handyman. 60% of my work load is repairing DIY projects after they fail. I love RUclips soo much!
BEST install vid (& advice, tips, techniques) period! Way to go!
😅Its hurt to fine good construction workers thers a lot a slackers they do t care. The want tp get paid and leave you with the problems
Huge thanks to Upstrye for working with me as I get licensed in OR.. Surprisingly, there is a ton of differences in CA to OR licensing.
If you're interested in getting licensed for yourself, or just want resources to gain knowledge in the industry.. upstryve.com/
Is Oregon like Texas where they don’t have a generals license?
@@ALRob288 They do, but there is much different licenses for regular residential to commercial. Where as California, I can build smaller commercial with the same license, along with Multi Family.
@@MattBangsWood really that is so interesting why are you going for your Oregon anyway?
@@ALRob288 Cheaper living, good colleges are nearby (within states) for both my girls to go to if they choose to.
California taxes are eating me up.
@@MattBangsWood dude I know the feeling the wife and I are prego with our first one right now. Just know that Oregon is far liberal than california if that doesn’t bother you. I was actually born in Oregon and live in big bear now
The 24" explanation just blew my mind. This is genius. Smart design. Smart implementation. Love it.
A Wise man once told me you are only as good as the flashing you install. You gotta think like water 🤘
I will run James Hardie horizontal planks and I want my gable to be vertical plank. The trim piece that goes in between, does it need a z bar flashing above it or below it?
You should have some furring strips behind those panels to give some breathing to the siding. Also it makes the paint last a lot longer!
Question, You built this super bomber envelope using zipsystems 👍. You liquid flashed for air tightness and water intrusion 👍. Used concrete products for longevity👍. Wheres the air gap for your rain screen?
What size Zbar above windows and what size above sections? 3/8", 5/8" or 1.25"
Do not buy Hardie if u live in the north. The seasonal changes destroy it in 5 years. I’ve replaced so much hardie in Michigan, it’s insane
With what do you replace it
I had it in michigan on my last house for 20 years, no issues
@@caferoca weird since hardie wasnt out 20 years ago in Michigan
@ryansilagi3228 you're right it was only 10 to 15 years ago. We got the house 20 years ago but didn't do the siding/windows until later. The point remains the same though. It worked great on my home. We painted it and never touched it again since. The paint di fade though so we would have needed to paint it again.
Don’t buy Hardie if you’re going to use composite wood Batons. Why not just use wood siding? Rot rot rot
@mattbangswood What type of finish nail?!? The video only says for the panels. And my finish nails just aren’t strong enough… crushing them.
How do you figure out where the middle band board goes? If you're stacking 2 sheets do you put it how ever tall it is? Or do you find a fascia nearby and go with that and cut down each sheet? I'm getting ready to do mine but I haven't worked with hardie much lol. Big cut up house to. Do you flash the sheet and band board at the same time or seperate?
Great vid. I have no flange, European style windows. They sit flush with the sheathing. You got any pointers on how to finish off the edge of the Hardie panel before I install the window trim?
Awesome, so helpful for a dyi'er, all i needed to know in this video, you explain everything so well, thank you!
Hey Matt do trim everything last, like over all the sheets. Corners, belly band , bottom starter band , trim around doors windows etc. I’m using 5/4 trim idk if i need to trim first then install 4x8 sheets thanks
Hello matt. Do you make sure you nail the board panels into stud framing? Or do you just nail to the wall sheathing?
Best Hardie board video I've seen. Great job, thanks.
"back in the day", ha!
Installing 8" REAL cedar board & batten this week.
Matt, great video! Very informative! Do all the batts have to land on studs or is centering for esthetics most important? Thanks again.
Have you ever installed hardie siding directly to a concrete block wall? I would be interested to see that process.
I need 12 things to know .... maybe more! Thanks Matt always love catching up with your vids
Hi Matt, great video....I just have a question for you. I'm considering putting this up and just wanted to know a couple of things. 1) Is it necessary to caulk each one of the battings after install? 2) Can I use wood firing strips as opposed to the James Hardie ones, or where can I get the ones you use? Thanx, Donna
Hey Donna!
1) No, you don't need to, we just prefer it as it gives it a cleaner look, better finish. It's not necessarily for waterproofing as we have ZIP sheathing and aren't worried about a bit of water.
2) You can! That's the joy of board and batten and originally where it came from, was wood siding. 1x12" boards, with small 1x4" covering the joints. You can absolutely use a 1x2 or 1x3 as a replacement to the James Hardie Battens. This building was done with AdvantagePLUS trim and battens, but the product has since been replaced as they had a major issue with their glues back in COVID days.. They're not supplied to us anymore.
Another well explained on every detail that is needed and should be noted. As a Certified Home Inspector I was happy to see your explanation between the siding nail and a finishing nail. As there are a lot of times you won't see nail head sizes due to the over lay. One thing I see a lot is that builder don't switch between the nail guns and I find after looking closely a ton of finishing nail heads. All ask, well "what's the problem with that, besides a lazy builder not changing to the proper sliding nail gun and nail head size." Answer is simple, as I said before If installed correctly you shouldnt find many head nail exposed in the first place. But the biggest reason why you are to use a sliding nail with a head is to keep the wind from slamming against the outside structure and lifting the James Hardie or LP siding w and ripping it off the wall. As Matt said the ring shanks they're pretty tough to pull out at that with a big diameter head keeps it in place rather using finishing nail the wind would be able to just pull the sliding right off that tiny nail head.
What is the product you referenced for buttons instead of cement, pressure rated?
Continues rain can damage dry wall??? Pls rply sir
Do you break all 4 x 8 sheets on studs and nail in the field on all the studs or just in the zip system sheathing
Awesome shit happens on this channel ALL the time and time again.
Matt - could you share your opinion about the LP Smart Siding as an alternative to fiber cement products? The silica dust from cutting fiber cement is a BIG concern of mine as it causes serious lung problems.
It’s pretty plain and simple. Fiber cement is junk and LP is the only way to go.
ok to use LP smartside trim on hardie panels ?
Can you still build a pier and beam foundation on the central coast? My dad’s house was built in 1959.
No, not anymore. Many remodels we do are forced to put in perimeter foundation now.
You only need to prime the cut ends that dont get caulked
Can you send a link to the type of siding you buy?
16 on centre!!!???? That’s fine on a massive house but not anywhere else.
What do you mean?
I had HB siding installed recently and they spaced the vertical pieces 13.5" apart but the windows aren't uniform. I can't upload a photo in the comments. Can I email you a pic? The manager is coming out to see what I'm talking about. I need to know how do I get them to fix this so the windows look uniform?
1x2 battens are too narrow. 1x3 is perfect!
What if the home where I'm taking out rotten sheets has bats placed at 14" (inside diameter) ofcourse I want everything uniform consistent. Also home was built in the 70's so likely has asbestos throughout. Too costly to replace every inch of siding but HOA has given home owner a notice.
What kind of gun and nails you used for that
1:08-1:16 where is the link in description for this?
Ive got a manufactured home, how would my layout be determined to land correctly. Im pretty sure I dont have plywood under my T111. Only concern I have for doing the siding on my place this summer. And if you dont get back to me I totally understand!
Thank you for a very informative video. We have very old vinyl siding and live in the high desert of Nevada, where the wind and sun take it's toll. We are also rural, so we are considering having our contractor friend come help us do this. Thank you again!
Hi great video I’m about to use this same material it do a ship lap design for a old mobile home I’m restoring to have a modern tiny house look . Very helpful information! When you look up hardy board it’s misleading so this video was very helpful to me ! I instantly subscribed thank you
Good video what I do I mark every sheet before installing that way I can nail my sheets under the 1x2
Can I use liquid flashing to paint on the ends of the Zip board that face down? If I can't get Huber liquid flashing, what are some alternatives?
I installed 1x4 trim around my windows and I could not find any 3/4 z flashing anywhere!!! Where in the world do you get this ??
Thank you for your video. Did you install the exterior plywood siding panels behind 2x4 which is supported for soffit and roof sheating?
Do you think it's necessary to caulk where the bats meet the boards ? It seems like it would be a good idea at least on the ones covering the sheet joints.
A lot of people don't, but personally we do.
I’ve seen people not use caulk and in my opinion it looks terrible. On a decent size house you’ll use boxes and boxes of caulk but it’s definitely worth it.
So, are your 1x2 battens a treated material or untreated?