What is Hungary’s Orban trying to achieve with his 'peace missions' ? | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban traveled to the US state of Florida on Thursday, where he met with former President Donald Trump following a NATO summit in Washington.
The meeting is part of Orban's self-proclaimed "peace mission" to end Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. It is likely to add to frustration among Western allies over similar secret trips he has made to Russia and China in the past few days.
00:00 Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban meets Trump
02:47 Chatham Houses' Armida van Rij explains Orban's aims
06:58 DW's Bernd Riegert on reaction to Orban's trips
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#hungary #orban #trump
Prime minister Orban great effort sir to stop 3rd world war.
peace!
@@udayprabhakar6744 Orban is just a leeech. Taking money were he can.
That's all.
Orban tears down their last sense of superiority pride and ask them to face the reality, of course reality hurts, thats why he's so triggering for these clown lobby🤣
He’s hurting the organisation he chairs. It’s misconduct and disloyalty.
@@T1hitsTheHighestNoteIt 's THE MORAL DUTY,of the organization in which he has the chair,TO SEEK PEACE
@@bonnie7898 what is the reality? Reality is things you can’t get from battlefield you won’t get them from negotiation table. Use your brain to think that if is possible for Russia to pull out for free?
Why when it’s a right wing peace initiative is it mocked??
Just because it s unrealistic, you silly Billy. Nothing to do with right or left.
It is because it is not about peace but surrender.
@@porecemusnox8805 i surely don’t support surrendering but keeping the dialogue open is mandatory for any movement towards peace. You still have to talk even if seems futile.
@@Ro-oot Here is the thing: Russia won't enter peace talks if it has to concede territorial gains, same as Ukraine at this point regarding territorial losses - there is no common ground.
it's not an official trip, it's a 'special hungarian operation'
A so-called peace mission, I doubt it... it's most likely a Putin-Orban cover to get a secret message to Trump.
LOL 👍🏼🤣😂
🤣
Go catch a zebra
Send Orban into orbit...
Naturally to seek a diplomatic solution angers anyone who is sworn in on war profiteering:
The grift must go on,no matter the cost for the populations !
And in your solution no matter the cost to the integrity and independence of Ukraine as a country. You are not top in geopolitics to say the least.
The kind of guy who would give Texas to Mexico to solve the migration problems , 🤣🤣🤣🤷♂️🤦♂️🤮
The diplomatic channels are open. But Mr. Putin still didn't accept the fact that Munich' 38 won't be repeated. Without that acknowledgement peace won't be possible at all.
@@franciscouderq1100 If you think this is about the obviously expendable country of Ukraine you got propagandised.
@@frankthetank5708 If diplomatic channel were not systematicly shut down over the course of at least a decade there wouldve been no war in Ukraine.
@@Zockopa
Diplomatic efforts like the Minsk Accords had been broken many times.
The ruler in the Kremlin wanted to annex land very similar to the big idol from Austria, although it was made clear from all member nations of the European Council that Munich' 38 won't be repeated.
This basics for any further diplomacy hadn't been accepted at all. Putler has ended diplomacy in 2022 and chose war.
Why are they crying,Orban is doing what every smart and resonable politisian should do,negotiate and talk to all sides.
they crying for their ww3. they have planned it so long !
@@nesatrumbe where is President Biden in all this?? Wake up
Exactly - Biden sleeps throough his Neocon controllers wishes@zinazina2132
Because EU politicians are not neither smart and resonable.They are paied mercenaries
Where is the problem as far as he pleads for peace? What a confused world
You want peace? Go to Russia and tell them to immediately withdraw from the sovereign territory of Ukraine and pay reparations for the damage it has caused to the infrastructure and the scars it left on the nation's hearts. Ukraine did not ask for this. Why ask the victim to concede to a bully that keeps coming back for more land grab. Not to mention the genocidal nature of their so-called special military op
@@tedrosmanna5465 because it will stop the arm sales grift in the US. the ‘aid’ goes straight into the pockets of the arms manufacturers.
Watch the video and find out!
@@kiskawillis ok when and why do you think this war started?
@@pajodarwin3687 In 2014 with Putin occupying Crimea, and Obama was too afraid to do anything about it despite having the authority to do something based on the Budapest memorandum.
My understanding of geopolitics isn’t in doubt….However, I honestly don’t care where peace comes from. WE SIMPLY NEED PEACE. TOO MANY YOUNG MEN HAVE DIED. Enough is enough. There’s nothing to be gained in a war of attrition. This war will end in some form of settled negotiation. The earlier we start talking with both parties, the better. Ignoring Russia during peace talks doesn’t do the world any good. We need both parties at the table
Does a tree fall in the woods whether you see it happen or not?
The only western leader with some good sense on him!
Viktor Orbán is the embodiment of the middle finger to the EU, NATO, and shared Western values since 1945. He behaves like a Trojan Horse.
They are all mad at him cos he is not selling out.
A real statesman who knows what is good for the world.
@@Cats-N-Music and we all know we can't have that...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Orban and Trump, the two wannabe authoritarian, that bow down to the two dictators xi jingping and Putin.
How embarrassing to watch.
Warmongers at work 😂😂😂
Orcs gonna Orc
he try to stop war
@@nadim.9571 Chamberlaine did too
Trump had no new wars during his admin, war is bad for his international hospitality business, you are incorrect.
yeah ! Ursula and Biden really want ww3 to happen! THANK GOD Orban showed everyone it doesnt have to happen!
Yes, the war mongers are in a rage.
You're talking about those who are turning cities into dust and killing children? Those war mongers?
yeah, Putin is mad
I know now that they bought all these millitary toys. They can't use it to kill ? 😮Whaaat we the above of all!!! can't play with people's lives or wouldn't be able to do so if Orban achieves peace talks... All these Narcs and Phycopath are panicking now .. Starting with Macron
What is your definition of a war monger?
My guess, it's not Putin, who started a war, and not Orban that wants to benefit from war. But probably, everyone who support Ukraine.
@@E_Dtl: Vlad, is that u?
The world is too sick what is wrong in seeking for peace
He just supports what Putin wants: Giving to Russia the territories that Russia has gained with mass murder and nuclear threat. Doing that is not peace, but rewarding Putin for committing mass murder. Plus Russia just wants to use "peace" to have time to re-arm its army and invading again.
Correct, a peace agreement would be beneficial to all countries, except China of course.
The problem is that the peace offer is allowing russia keep all occupied areas of Ukraina and even more they want as well for Ukraina would not be allowed to join EU or Nato.
And if course this offer is not possible for Ukraina to agree with.
Nothing wrong with seeking peace. I’m more cautious about how trendy words are used. I recall hearing the words « special military operation ». It is unusual to see this much effort for « peace » when it’s only a special military operation at hand. Then again, it could be possible that one of these terms is not used correctly.
He's not seeking for peace. He's seeking for Ukraine to surrender to Russia. How about he lobbies Putin to leave Ukraine, and return his troops to within his own borders? That would also be peace, and more importantly, would not reward war, which is the opposite of peace. Russia broke the peace, it makes sense that they should stop their illegal war so PEACE like we had before can occur.
Passing Intelligence to Trump!
Trump surely needs “intelligence”
well biden just loves war so what’s the point in talking to him?
who wants to stop the slaughter. I think trump is a terrible politician but at least he wants peace. As Orban said, "the US have a war policy" along with the rest of europe who are US vassal states.
He officially hasn’t even asked to meet Biden, the president of the US, but Trump, that tells everything.
Well, Biden, who introduced Zelensky as President Putin on NATO summit 😂😂 wouldn't know what Orban Viktor would want and talk about... So absolutely no point meeting him😂😂
@@80-80.What ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ask to meet Biden . . . Zelenski met him yesterday . . . have you ever at least thought that they are mocking you with Biden?
Biden said the President of Ukraine is Putin 😂
Yes .. yes … yes and Putin says there is no such thing as a Ukrainian nation, language or history. So who is mentally more unstable??
Why people here in comments are against " people being in peace " and want " people being killed"?
They don't even know what the peace mission is about or if it is trying to bring everyone to start talking. They just want the war to continue but they want american tax payers to fund it.
It's such a shame that people are not willing to give up their culture, homes, and future for "peace".
Bot accounts
@@dallysinghson5569 You mean the people in eastern ukraine? who aren't allowed to speak Russian? aren't allowed to listen to Russian music?
@@thewedge8823 bollocks.
"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." _-- George Orwell_
Not new
Isaiah 5:20 says, "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"
The russian credo, yes, we know.
@@lepetitroquet9410you know nato provoked all this war , right?
@@feralmode When and how exactly ;p ? By refusing to accept Ukraine in the alliance in 2008 ^^ ?
Did NATO force Putin to interfere in the ukrainian politic in 2013 ? Did NATO force Putin to invade Crimea in 2014 ? Did NATO force Putin to send agents in the Donbas to start a civil war ? Did NATO force Putin to fuel said civil war to the point of sending russians soldiers there ?
Did NATO force Putin to send his 2021 ultimatum and then force Putin to launch the mass escalation of february 2022 ?
You truly think Putin is such a NATO puppet, with no choice but to obey such orders ;p ?
You may have no respect whatsoever for Putin and Russia's sovereignty, but I happen to have some esteem for them and am pretty certain they act on their own accord and make their own decisions.
@@feralmode yes, it contributed.
He is one of few politicians in Europe who have ability to do real diplomacy.
Really? What did he achieve?
I notice you DW didnt mention he met other European leaders first.
He has done more in the last few days than his predecessors in a year
This would have been much more interesting if you had included unedited, uncut clips of Orban himself explaining why he had meetings with these leaders. The only thing you have shown is that Orban has gone outside the current groupthink and that you are upset about it.
Exactly!
DOWN WITH THIS UPLOADER REPORT!!!!! 😂
Oh no! Peace, Agreement, how terrible!
Warmongers are not happy.
Putin invaded Ukraine, a sovereign country protected by the Budapesr Agreement in which Russia and others promised to protect Ukrainian soveregnity in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear arsenal (the third largest ) to Russia.
Peace missions seek to achieve what else but peace.
Why would anyone trying to stop ppl from dieing needlessly be aggravating anyone?
Putin can stop it in a moment
they do not want peace thats why.
Regardless of success, Orban is playing his historic role. No one will ever be able to ask him where you were when it thundered.
Seems like a great start doesn't it? At least someone is talking to all the interested parties.
*The MOST SANE European 🏰 LEADER today!*
Orban is acting in his own capacity not as an official of the European Union. This is irresponsible.
If NATO is not doing anything for peace, let Orban do it. What's wrong. the EU is economically paralyzed, German and French markets at doldrums as China closed doors. No Mercedes Benz for Chinese or Russians. If Europeans want to economically suffer don't go for peace, Hungary will have access to Asian markets with concessions on energy, fertilizer, and Grain Etc
Let us talk about PEACE. or someone of you want expand the war to you hometown?
Putin can't even handle Ukraine lol
@@truthismycause2800 there in Ukraine are 60% Russian and pro-Russian people., he goes slowly but surely and carefully, having low losses, hitting mainly military targets. They know that west need Russian natural resources by weakening Russia., But they have on their side more than 3/4 world population, incl. CHINA, West and NATO is going to bankrupt. We have lost and global east/south is winner. Due to NATO expansion policy.
@@truthismycause2800 Russia already won. 3/4 of World population are on their side. NATO presents only 1 bln and pro-RUSSIAn are 8 bln. incl.CHINA, global south, BRICKS states are growing....
@@truthismycause2800 maybe hypersonic Zircon will tell you
No, they want to YOUR hometown.
Grow up….. too much warmongering
The whole report is problematic. If it brings peace, does it matter who brought it? If it does matter, then does one accept biases and power play within a so-called Union?
My my my geopolitics is not your major for sure!
Well said…I honestly don’t care where peace comes from. WE SIMPLY NEED PEACE. TOO MANY YOUNG MEN HAVE DIED. Enough is enough. There’s nothing to be gained in a war of attrition
@@senyoadu2198 Putin started the war by invading Ukraine and he can end the war today by withdrawing all Russian troops from Ukraine.
The only thing it can lead to is the capitulation of Ukraine. Those are Russia’s terms. And putin will break this new agreement like he did with Minsk 1 and 2.
@@senyoadu2198your master putin badly needs peace now, he needs to rebuild his military so he can launch yet another “SMO” in a few years from now.
Every initiative to promote peace is highly appreciated. The world needs PEACE and not WAR. I pray for Mr. Orban who dares to take peace initiative. My respect for him.
He's not blurring the lines, he clearly stated he has no mandate to speak for the EU on these trips.
He's insinuating he and Trump alone can solve the war. Could they pack in the middle east peace while they're at it? :D. What a foolish appeaser.
He even had the official logo of the EU Council on his pictures where he met the dictators.
Does not matter . . . EU have no mandate to speak for the US
If Orban was in Russia doing the same thing, he would have fallen out a window at this stage. He should really think about the privilege that he enjoys.
The EU is a circus with every six months of rotation of EU presidency😹😹😹😸🙊🙉🙈🤣🤣🤣🤡
As a sovereign of a nation he can meet as and when he wants. He is doing nothing wrong.
tell that to brainwashed people by the warmongers
As President of the EU he should represent its views or shutup/resign.
@@evaluateanalysis7974 peace are its "views" is it not ? surely!
@@ZsH85 Everyone wants peace, but the EU supports Ukraine in its desire to have its land back first. Russia wants peace - if it can keep the territory it has stolen from Ukraine and all of Ukraine's territory if possible.
@@evaluateanalysis7974 thats why i think one of the possible solutions could be: they keep the land for some years and if NATO and the usa is out for good, then give it back ! or something like that
what is this lady representing, reignmetal, boeing, war machine manufacturer
Instead of the report being, what has been discussed during Orban's meetings, it is about how to strip Hungary of their rightful turn in EU presidency. "Any peace now would be the capitulation of Ukr." - well how would you know if you do not care what has been discussed? Please do better journalism.
You guys talk absolutely rubbish-no wonder Europe is on series decline
Orban has more balls than the whole NATO
Agreed
If this was true , Putin would then have some as well. Both a killers and dangerous to the world.
@@amilaperera1He understands clearly if the war escalate he'll suffer most
@@comictv7730 32 NATO countries against one country “ Russia “.
@@amilaperera1 NATO has a defence strategy. Russia invaded Ukraine.
"Peace efforts are bad for Ukraine"
War machine talking head....
Big business is going there. Billions of dollars circulation
You are not talking about peace. You are talking about surrender.
@@porecemusnox8805 as if there was ever any other option? It's an unwinnable war.
@@zephlaron1750 I agree. Russia can't win.
His has met with all the leaders now
Absolutely, the ones who has the power to decide on peace for sure ..
Very Interesting. I'm living here Behind Enemy Lines in germany. For the last couple week the state run news has been saying Hungary man BAD! Just Wandering
“Leaders”
He hasn’t been to Iran yet 😂😂😂
@@ramanbhandary7501 What has Iran have to do with the war in Ukraine?
NEOCONS are in rage that hundreds of people per day could be saved from death and no more money can flow …
Stupidity. Essentially what she is saying is that peace is not ideal.
robot telling back her master's lines
Never seen a group of people so terrified of the possibility of peace
@@jeffreymartin6182 God forbid that ever happens!
What peace are you talking about? Describe it.
@@jasperchance3382 Peace is when people stop killing each other.
Beats me.
@@jeffreymartin6182 ok, so you talk nonsense. Good to know
Not the first time that Germany tried to discredit a Hungarian peace initiative. Last time they did this..... it was 1943.
Piefkes never changes.😮
And prior to that in 1914, when Count Tisza of Hungary advised Germany and Austria to not declaring war against Serbia. They overruled him. Hence WW1
Only the German government wants this war! we as a population are not asked!!!
President Victor Orban wants peace. What is wrong wanting peace. I see nothing is wrong wanting peace. We all want peace. But why can't European union accept peace? There's something very wrong with EU.
its their true face and intention
All wars come to end either by capitolisation or a peace agreement eventually - - either choise the sooner the better - -
thats what orban saying but the warmongers never tell you that, they want ww3
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. Orban is trying for peace with a different approach but y'all still mad.
It's not maddness, if you have been in and work around Russians. They do not think like westerners. If Trump gets in be prepared for war.
Orban is playing games to defuse the real intent.
Warmongers profit from war. Peace is a threat to their bottom line. This is why they want fighting to continue whether in Ukraine or Gaza. The death of human beings is inconsequential to them.
President Orban is doing the best to bring peace ❤
Hungary a liability, and a huge $hame to EU and NATO.
More like the other way around.
@@albatros12Yeah, vatnik
I still don't understand what is wrong with peace? So he was trying for a peace plan? That should be a good thing should it not?
@@christopherw4527He should visit the children's hospital in Kiev, see what putins peace looks like
@@bck481 I was in the service, and the US hit all kinds of innocents. Shoot, we are in Syria which breaks all kinds of international law. Let us reason, and at least listen to a peace plan where the aggressor is invited at least.
Peace is not good for ukraine and EU . That is the core of the conversation
Then I suggest you give Kashmir to Pakistan. Then you will have no problems there anymore.
ww3 is not good for the whole world. thats the core of common sense.
I never tougth that I would see people being angry to somebody that is trying to find peace
Angered others EUs because he got ‘balls’ & 🧠 brain
inconvenient because it disrupts the flow of huge amounts of capital into the pockets of mega corporations
Talking peace if verboten in EU
Maybe bringing steps that could lead to peace. DW has become a clown show, Orban is doing a terrific job by seeking dialog between the parts.
Why is it so complicated for you. It is to get the initiative towards PEACE. Why are you against PEACE??
Easy Russia leaves Ukraine.
is it peaceful under a bootheel?
Anyone who trusts Putin is a fool.
What he does has nothing to do with peace. He just supports what Putin wants: Giving to Russia the territories that Russia has gained with mass murder and nuclear threat. Doing that is not peace, but rewarding Putin for committing mass murder. Plus Russia just wants to use "peace" to have time to re-arm its army and invading again.
@@bradleyroth9870 What are you talking about. There is no Ukraine since coup d'etat 2014. There are four regions of former Ukraine which belongs to the Russian Federation and when NATO proxy leave those regions and rest of the Ukraine accept neutrality they may talk about peace.
Orban is not a think tank. He is just a big tank.
@homayuns2165 . Yes ,a tank but at least one that use his brain .
Lard tank
peace over lord
The Puppet, smiling for his Master…
@Unfiltered-gb8vh
The Puppet ,the EU, smiling at its Master ,U$ .
@@Unfiltered-gb8vh question… do you think Zelenskyy is a puppet?
It is an " appeasement " mission.
It is. It’s to kiss the ring.
What's wrong with negotiating peace?
@@MichelMrz Everything, since this mission confuses peace with appeasement.
Would you die for what exactly, something you'll never be part of.? - -
It is a ''Save Ukraine from total destruction '' mission
But what you are saying, this lady is out your mind ! She told that Hungary is the third benefits from the EU !
Orban didn’t even get to meet the US president…. 😂
Yes and this could soon cost Hungary quit a bit .
I like the developers ❤by Mr orban
Why should he have met the puppet Biden?! He‘s severely demented!
You mean he sort of did
he probably knew how pointless it was for a number of reasons.
He did as Hungary, why other guys are whining?
Very praiseworthy to seek ways to peace, thank you Viktor Orbán.
Is there a means to suspend Hungary from NATO and the EU?
Unfortunately no. There are no clauses that allow their expulsion
@@RalphDavis-qk2xy Hungary was the ancestor of the EU. It was called Austria-Hungary.
@@FILOZOFUS87what??? 😂😂😂
@@FILOZOFUS87 Hungary is ancestor of Soviet Union as well 🙂
@@markojuric4954 Not really. The Soviet Union had onlyn 15 republics. Hungary was not part of the Soviet Union. Like East Germany was not the part of the Soviet Union eirher.
..
Anyway, Hungary wanted to get rid of the influence of the USSR in 1956.
And Hungary helped Eastern-Germany (jn 1989) to unite with West Germany.
Hungary let tourists from Eastern Germany go from Hungary to Austria.
What is he trying to achieve? It’s called peace.
Orban is safe in Hungary. It is the Ukrainians who are being invaded.
Nobody condemns Polish guy's visit to china, because he went on a business trip, he is Nato, an European member, orbans trip ia evil because he talks about ending the war
Yes true but ending the war by Putin’s terms only…
Exactly. They are trying so hard to paint the democratically-elected leader of a NATO country as an authoritarian dictator simply because he doesn't agree on every single issue. He is in NATO for a reason, but he's being treated as if he's Putin's stooge for ostensibly trying to negotiate a settlement.
@@zinazina2132 no , putins demands are unacceptable, i agree, they have to meet somewhere in the middle, anyways what im saying is they have to start talking
some politicians (and journalists) were caught off guard by the war, now they are doing their best not to be caught off guard by peace :D
Dear Amida, you may find better arguments against Orban's initiative then EU flag on his letters...
macron is visibly pissed off thats not him 🤣🤣🤣
Macron wanted to be the first to surrender.
I think he's trying to achieve peace. Unlike others?
Just like Chamberlain in -39.
Hungarian president can see whoever he pleases he is not EUs poodle!
He seems to be the only EU leader now that deserves respect. No one else there is seeking peace.
Any peace now is horrible. Any peace tomorrow is horrible. Any peace before the last Ukrainian is unacceptable.
Ukrained.🙃😹🎇🎇
He should be kicked out of the EU and nato
For having an opinion as trlhe representative if a sovereign nation? Sounds as a very 'European' mindset...
@@TenylegMinekez-uc7co Get lost.
You do not really seem to be a gentleman. Where are you from?
Then you prepare to go Ukraine front line
@@Culturesocialism-cz7jxThis Guy May be a puppet of EU warmongers
Peace ? It's not that hard to guess, right? 😂😂😂 Orban Viktor is trying to achieve peace ... with His peace mission..
they dont want that
What a smart guy...
Orban doing greate job seeking finding a way for peace. He is smart and well respected
He wants more war and more money to steal. He is always lying about everything, when he says he wants peace, that means he wants war. He is not respected anywhere, he isn't even elected trough legit means, he is a dictator.
No way he is a Ruzzian asset!!!!
He doesn't want peace. He just supports what Putin wants: Giving to Russia the territories that Russia has gained with mass murder and nuclear threat. Doing that is not peace, but rewarding Putin for committing mass murder. Plus Russia just wants to use "peace" to have time to re-arm its army and invading again.
Ha ha ha! He will kick his country out of NATO and EU!
Orban is trying to disrupt the festivities of dw's masters
😂😂😂😂😂😂 this comment is definitely a winner amongst all the comments.
Russian Asset meets Russian Asset.
Looks like Kremlin needs to hire
a New Scriptwriter. 🤣🤣
Prove your point or stay in silence.
@@TenylegMinekez-uc7co A meeting of Neofascists
Hardly lol putin was uncomfortable meeting orban
Go look putin meeting Kazakh PM and Xi, how much he was smiling skipping to shake hands. Thats his liking
@@craigbowerman3877that's no proof. Try again.
@@craigbowerman3877 🤡
So clear this women is left leaning and biased..
Orban is a pale imitation of Horthy.
AS AMERICAN I AM DUSCUSSED WITH THESE TWO
and what were you "duscussed" with them if i may ask?
As an American you should learn to write in English. Cheers from a non-American. ✌️
He missed out Jong Un and the Ayatollah
He didnt missed Zelensky tho
He is so evil, he is meeting other presidents to discuss a peace plan for Ukraine 🤦🏿♂️
I do not understand DW and Germans. Do you guys want peace ? Or do u want peace only after victory ?
Did the Germans did not have enough chances to do this on their own but you had a farce Swiss Sumit where you did not invite the main party of the conflict.
its brainwahsing by brainwasher media such as this. Most of the people dont give a dime about Ukraine and wants peace. Only nato and Biden wants ww3.
While Orban is following diplomacy, the rest of the EU and NATO is feeding conflict with escalations, begs the question if they really want the peace they preach about.
Birds of a feather flock together.
Youa re referring to the 'wits of the EU,of course .
I don’t think that Trump considers China a party in the Ukraine war
Creep
Warpig
@@koiguidenishikigoi4972 No more warpigs have the power (except Putreed), hand of God has struck the hour.
How dare he try to get peace! There's still lots of money to be grifted.
So peace is not good for Ukraine????
"Peace mission? How dare you!" 🤦
Peace?
Is that horryfying?
Orban is not negociating any "peace".
He's negociating Ukraine's capitulation.
Imagine you're from America, and your neighbor, Mexico, decides to reclaim Arizona and California, territories they once owned. You and your friends head to the front lines to defend your country, while Mexican soldiers devastate cities like Tucson and L.A., torturing men and women and kidnapping American children for forced adoption in Mexico. Meanwhile, Orban, (ie., Jabba The Hutt), embarks on a so-called peace mission, pressuring American allies to surrender territory to Mexico without addressing the atrocities committed. How many of your friends who have been fighting and lost some of their friends during this fight would accept such an offer? Now, consider Ukraine: Crimea was annexed in 2014, and here we are in 2024, with Russia wanting more. Why would Russia stop if they are not held fully accountable?
@@truthismycause2800 that is the same if the war goes to the last Ukrainian standing direction....
@@kiskawillis was US/NATO/Is.real ever accountable? Don't be a hypocrite.
Putin isn't interested in peace. Never was.
What is Hungary’s Orban trying to achieve with his 'peace missions' ? Simple answer, peace.
they try to make people think otherwise, its pure brainwashing. they want ww3
Trump will figure it out. Stay put and watch.
Did i just hear this lady say any peace initiative is a capitulation fo ukraine??? This is crazy...
It's a fascist and quasi-fascist show
War is over Biden said Putin is the president of Ukraine.😂😂😂
It's sad so many people just wholeheartedly allow President Trump or PM Orban to live on their heads, RENT Free
@@ninzki143It's truely sad and a serious flaw that the EU and NATO have difficult mechanisms to kick out Trojan Horse members.
@@dweb Ouch, sounds like they lived in your head for FREE as well... u sure don't wanna charge them rent?
Ukiebot logic be like: Ohh theyre trying to end the war? Theyre fas.cists! 🥴
🤡🤡🤡
DW 😂😂😂😂😂
Since when are tiny pictures you can't even draw nor understand constitute a considered comment. Worthless.
@@dammitdan106 DW XDDDD
Here by I declare that Orban did it to follow my orders and I and the notorious Muffin Man.
Поскольку те немногие избранные лидеры, которые прилагают усилия для мирного прекращения войны на Украине, подвергаются резкой критике со стороны Европейского союза, становится ясно, что все еще есть влиятельные люди, интересы которых явно противоречат достижению мирного соглашения с Россией. При таком мышлении страдания гражданского населения, к сожалению, будут продолжаться до тех пор, пока не будет найдено дипломатическое решение, предполагающее раздел территорий.
We can't have peace now can we when we are making good money LOL
It is not peace what he wants. He just supports what Putin wants: Giving to Russia the territories that Russia has gained with mass murder and nuclear threat. Doing that is not peace, but rewarding Putin for committing mass murder. Plus Russia just wants to use "peace" to have time to re-arm its army and invading again.