This is the clearest and a profound explanation of dependent origination and its linkage to the noble truth of suffering. Thank you very much Venerable Bodhi Bhikku.
Thank you so much for this talk. It has been very helpful. I can't say I understand everything as the Buddha said it is difficult to understand but I have a bit more understanding which I use to understand life. With Mettā
Excellent discourse. I find it difficult believe the rebirth concept, not sure if Buddha was talking figuratively or factually about this. Any constructive comment is welcome.
Have a look at an interesting video by Nyanamoli Thero at Hillside Hermitage channel, it’s titled Samsara, it gives explanation to this concept. In terms of evidence, you may find interesting studies on rebirth by Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker. Also, there is a book “Rebirth in Early Buddhism and current research” by Ven. Annayalo.
Neither Ajahn Buddhadasa nor Ajahn Chah taught dependent arising over numerous lifetimes. They were two great practicing living masters. I fortunately had the chance to learn at the feet of Ajahn Bhuddadasa in Thailand in the 80s. He absolutely decried any version of paticca samupada that tried to incorporate more than this lifetime. For both these masters this teaching referred to moment to moment mind / body phenomena. Please look at their teachings and see for yourself. Although some of the bhikkus in ajahn Chah's lineage teach differently- this great teacher was unequivocal that the teaching was here and now not to be interpreted over 3 lifetimes.
if you can - research what Ajahn Chah and Ajahn Bhuddadasa have to say on this subject. Neither of these masters speak of paticca samupada as spanning 3 lifetimes, in fact they deride the notion. The Buddha said to question everything about the practice and let go of that which does not lead to freedom in the here and now. An explanation of this teaching that imagines it over numerous lifetimes is of no use in the here and now as you cannot get the fruits of this powerful teaching in this very life. Please research the teaching of those greatest Bhikkus of recent times and see what they have to say about this doctrine. This well respected teacher's interpretation of consciousness seems to go against everything the Buddha extolled about not having any permanent self even for a moment dwelling in any of the 5 Khanda or 'heaps'. Vinyanna or consciousness was never taught as anything more than each moment of sense contact. Do not be fooled into thinking there is some entity like awareness that floats through life and somehow goes between physical births and deaths because that is certainly NOT what the Buddha called consciousness. It might sound nice and philosophical but it is NOT Buddhism.
You know that you are under the cloak of ignorance for as long as you believe that you yourself are being reborn from lifetime to lifetime... In this lifetime, you are reborn as a better person every time you do good, and you are reborn as a worse person every time you do evil. In this lifetime, therefore, you are born and you die all the time, incessantly, like the waves on the surface of the ocean. From lifetime to lifetime perspective, it is like this: you are NOT a result of your own kamma; your conception and birth are a result of your parent's kamma. It is quite simple and logical: you cannot perform kamma before you are born, and even as a baby you are driven by your parent's kamma. You start generating your own kamma only once you are developed enough to be able to do volitional, intentional acts; thats when you start to accumulate your Self, one kamma at a time, one clinging at a time.. So, in this sense, your past lifetime are your parents, and your future lifetime are your children. You are right now all your ancestors all the way back to the beginning of the life on Earth. But your mind is made of pieces of the minds of your parents, siblings, neighbors, all your teachers, the writers of the books you've read, of the Buddha and Jesus, of random people you've met... All of these pieces are "you" only through the power of clinging, but in reality, none of it is you. None of it was you when you took your first breath, and all of it will fall off of you when you exhale for the last time, when the glue of clinging finally ceases. At this time, what will be left there to go to the next life, or to Pure Land, Heaven or Hell?
There are several (unproven) metaphysical claims that underpin the idea about reincarnation. These metaphysical claims are just assumptions on how reality operates and are by the preacher/speaker embraced like (religious) dogmas. The failure to see and openly declare this is either blind ignorance or religious manipulation (on behalf of the preacher).
Could you say more about this? I think I agree with you about the dogma aspect. Personally I feel that dependent origination is a moment to moment thing and not referring to numerous lifetimes
I really liked this bikkhu and his stories alot, but recently lost alot of respect for him as a spiritual leader of Buddhism after I watched some of his more resent videos and heard him ranting all about his leftoid politics, demonstrating envy of others money, disparaging gossip like speech about others of different political views than himself. I could actually hear hate in his voice for those others! l just dont think the buddha would approve of the use of his teachings to further ones marxist politics.. Sorry.. 😞 he even turned off comments to avoid debate! Shameful..
This is the first I have ever listened to or read by this well known scholar. The first thing I thought was that I was taught that his explanation of this teaching is nothing like what I was taught and have practiced for years. My teachers were Ajahn Chah and Ajahn Buddhadasa. vinyanna consciousness was not some continuous kind of sense of existence but the moment to moment sense contact. Neither of those wise teachers taught that dependent origination as taught by the Buddha spanned multiple lifetimes. That's as silly as saying you only get to be with Jesus when you die. Sorry but for me - the only practical spiritual reaching is the one that allows freedom in the now, in this lifetime. If anyone cares to actually research the two masters I've referred to you will see they totally rubbish any notion of paticca samupada that talks about many lifetimes.
Well at some point, politics does involve how you treat others. And certain ideologies support and reinforce systematic inequality more than others. I think the Buddhist political perspective is inherently compassionate.
Quoting Bhikkhu Bodhi himself in this video:"we cling to our theories, to our opinions, to our conception, to our beliefs, we set up a scheme of categories through which we try to interpret reality to ourselves to make things intelligible to ourselves and we hold and grasp that scheme." Marxists do that all the time.
when speaking about Dukkha, he says it's like an old woman blind, stumbling. If we are to not identify as form, why would a teacher use gender as an example? When only Monks, males, men are used as privy to the Dhamma, can they not see they are foolish? The Dhamma is not foolish, yet the convention of Monk appears to trump as an authority. Not all monks are as ignorant.
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This world has become such a beautiful and meaningful place for all sentient beings because of the Buddha, Dhamma & Sangha
Probably one of the most important dharma lectures I've listened to. I revisit this recording multiple times a year
Yes
Me too
I do the same.
Perhaps one of the most clear and systematic talks on this foundational and complex subject. Thank you for sharing.
If Buddhism is to be understood, then listen to Bhikkhu Bodhi. Systematic teacher
Thank you Venerable Bhikkhu Bodhi.
I'm so gratefull for your translations and lectures 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Brilliant video, finally all this madness explained step by step🙏
Excellent Crystal clear talk on Dhamma- a talk I was looking for over so many years. May Triple Gem bless you Venerable Sir.
Thank you deeply for your clear-cut lectures for me to see how the world works.
This is the clearest and a profound explanation of dependent origination and its linkage to the noble truth of suffering. Thank you very much Venerable Bodhi Bhikku.
I have a good understanding of Paticca-Samuppada, it was still so refreshing to hear this sermon.
This is the most important teaching of Buddha Pattitya Samupada
Agyan Sanskara vigyan Namrupa sadayatana sparsh vedana Trusna
Upadan jati Jara marana
Thank you so much for this talk. It has been very helpful. I can't say I understand everything as the Buddha said it is difficult to understand but I have a bit more understanding which I use to understand life. With Mettā
A wonderful explanation. Thank you Bhikkhu Bodhi! Your words paint a vivid panoply in my..."mind's eye."
Brilliantly illuminating .
Sadhu, Sadhu, Sadhu, Bhante, I wish to share your intriguing and wonderful insight one day.
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu - Bhante Ven. B. Bodhi
About as clear of an explanation on this complicated topic as you could ever hope for.
Sādhu Sādhu Sādhu🙏🙏🙏💞
I pay homage to you Mahathero❤❤❤
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu 🙏🌷
You have to be smart to understand buddhism at this level of depth. 13 people disliked that they weren’t smart enough.
As one of the recollections of the Dhamma goes in Pali 'veditabbo vinnuhi' meaning "it's to be understood only by the wise".
namo tassa bhagavato arahato samma sambuddhasa
Dense material to get through but very well explained.
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Excellent discourse. I find it difficult believe the rebirth concept, not sure if Buddha was talking figuratively or factually about this. Any constructive comment is welcome.
There's a lot of evidence for rebirth.
It is not figurative. It is factual.
@@ruwanweerakkody5411 can you please kindly provide the evidence or references? Thanks
Have a look at an interesting video by Nyanamoli Thero at Hillside Hermitage channel, it’s titled Samsara, it gives explanation to this concept. In terms of evidence, you may find interesting studies on rebirth by Ian Stevenson and Jim Tucker. Also, there is a book “Rebirth in Early Buddhism and current research” by Ven. Annayalo.
Neither Ajahn Buddhadasa nor Ajahn Chah taught dependent arising over numerous lifetimes. They were two great practicing living masters. I fortunately had the chance to learn at the feet of Ajahn Bhuddadasa in Thailand in the 80s. He absolutely decried any version of paticca samupada that tried to incorporate more than this lifetime. For both these masters this teaching referred to moment to moment mind / body phenomena. Please look at their teachings and see for yourself. Although some of the bhikkus in ajahn Chah's lineage teach differently- this great teacher was unequivocal that the teaching was here and now not to be interpreted over 3 lifetimes.
if you can - research what Ajahn Chah and Ajahn Bhuddadasa have to say on this subject. Neither of these masters speak of paticca samupada as spanning 3 lifetimes, in fact they deride the notion. The Buddha said to question everything about the practice and let go of that which does not lead to freedom in the here and now. An explanation of this teaching that imagines it over numerous lifetimes is of no use in the here and now as you cannot get the fruits of this powerful teaching in this very life. Please research the teaching of those greatest Bhikkus of recent times and see what they have to say about this doctrine. This well respected teacher's interpretation of consciousness seems to go against everything the Buddha extolled about not having any permanent self even for a moment dwelling in any of the 5 Khanda or 'heaps'. Vinyanna or consciousness was never taught as anything more than each moment of sense contact. Do not be fooled into thinking there is some entity like awareness that floats through life and somehow goes between physical births and deaths because that is certainly NOT what the Buddha called consciousness. It might sound nice and philosophical but it is NOT Buddhism.
This audio ended abruptly so the ending of this lecture is not heard! Please be careful in the future not to do this again.
Bhikkhu Bodhi's notoriously bad quality recordings done on a basic old cassette tape recorder in 1981. Still some of my fav Buddhist lectures
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You know that you are under the cloak of ignorance for as long as you believe that you yourself are being reborn from lifetime to lifetime...
In this lifetime, you are reborn as a better person every time you do good, and you are reborn as a worse person every time you do evil. In this lifetime, therefore, you are born and you die all the time, incessantly, like the waves on the surface of the ocean.
From lifetime to lifetime perspective, it is like this: you are NOT a result of your own kamma; your conception and birth are a result of your parent's kamma. It is quite simple and logical: you cannot perform kamma before you are born, and even as a baby you are driven by your parent's kamma. You start generating your own kamma only once you are developed enough to be able to do volitional, intentional acts; thats when you start to accumulate your Self, one kamma at a time, one clinging at a time..
So, in this sense, your past lifetime are your parents, and your future lifetime are your children. You are right now all your ancestors all the way back to the beginning of the life on Earth.
But your mind is made of pieces of the minds of your parents, siblings, neighbors, all your teachers, the writers of the books you've read, of the Buddha and Jesus, of random people you've met... All of these pieces are "you" only through the power of clinging, but in reality, none of it is you.
None of it was you when you took your first breath, and all of it will fall off of you when you exhale for the last time, when the glue of clinging finally ceases. At this time, what will be left there to go to the next life, or to Pure Land, Heaven or Hell?
There are several (unproven) metaphysical claims that underpin the idea about reincarnation. These metaphysical claims are just assumptions on how reality operates and are by the preacher/speaker embraced like (religious) dogmas. The failure to see and openly declare this is either blind ignorance or religious manipulation (on behalf of the preacher).
Could you say more about this? I think I agree with you about the dogma aspect. Personally I feel that dependent origination is a moment to moment thing and not referring to numerous lifetimes
a continuar hablar buddhism, ernsting gracia muy muncho, no necessitar hablar buddhism.
I really liked this bikkhu and his stories alot, but recently lost alot of respect for him as a spiritual leader of Buddhism after I watched some of his more resent videos and heard him ranting all about his leftoid politics, demonstrating envy of others money, disparaging gossip like speech about others of different political views than himself. I could actually hear hate in his voice for those others! l just dont think the buddha would approve of the use of his teachings to further ones marxist politics.. Sorry.. 😞 he even turned off comments to avoid debate! Shameful..
This is the first I have ever listened to or read by this well known scholar. The first thing I thought was that I was taught that his explanation of this teaching is nothing like what I was taught and have practiced for years. My teachers were Ajahn Chah and Ajahn Buddhadasa. vinyanna consciousness was not some continuous kind of sense of existence but the moment to moment sense contact. Neither of those wise teachers taught that dependent origination as taught by the Buddha spanned multiple lifetimes. That's as silly as saying you only get to be with Jesus when you die. Sorry but for me - the only practical spiritual reaching is the one that allows freedom in the now, in this lifetime. If anyone cares to actually research the two masters I've referred to you will see they totally rubbish any notion of paticca samupada that talks about many lifetimes.
What videos are you referring to?
Well at some point, politics does involve how you treat others. And certain ideologies support and reinforce systematic inequality more than others. I think the Buddhist political perspective is inherently compassionate.
Quoting Bhikkhu Bodhi himself in this video:"we cling to our theories, to our opinions, to our conception, to our beliefs, we set up a scheme of categories through which we try to interpret reality to ourselves to make things intelligible to ourselves and we hold and grasp that scheme." Marxists do that all the time.
when speaking about Dukkha, he says it's like an old woman blind, stumbling. If we are to not identify as form, why would a teacher use gender as an example? When only Monks, males, men are used as privy to the Dhamma, can they not see they are foolish? The Dhamma is not foolish, yet the convention of Monk appears to trump as an authority. Not all monks are as ignorant.
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