Why does every english-speaking actor in the world know that if they want to play a stupid person they put on an accent from the US south? Could it have anything to do with preachers like this?
@@bigdoodoo3530 I think it’s just associated with rural living and or uneducated areas of America. In almost every country there are dialects and accents perceived as rough/dirty/informal, because those speakers are often from undereducated areas or it’s possible that the official/proper dialects taught are usually the “formal” versions. Probably why most people hold the stereotype that the British accent is the most distinguished and high class because it feels the most proper.
LMAO Just ignore me. I was just looking for an excuse to push my cat away to comment and help with letters and stuff. This was one hell of an excuse. I love it! :D
@@stylis666 believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.
The plus and minus infinity (and even zero) are not numbers, but no number can exist without them. So, God is the singular entity who is needed by the universe, but he is not one of the elements of the universe.
@@mazen1010 Except zero is a real number, as it describes a real life state, such as when an object is not in motion. Infinity is not a real number, but it is not necessary for other numbers to exist, it is simply a human concept used to help us understand certian concepts within maths. It is a tool within a toolkit. If you take it out the toolkit, the toolkit becomes less useful, but it is still a toolkit.
Because if God actually created the universe that means God would have to be infinity. Meaning he was always here and been here. he is the alpha and omega.
@@ccricegaming So you're saying God's been around forever lonely on his tod? 😂 just picturing the assertions of the sheep can be highly amusing. Then I realise that's a person who's had their brain assaulted by greedy, evil scammers. Poor sheep 😔
When I was a boy, I was taught, as a Catholic, I would go to hell if I ate meat on Friday and died before confessing; this was a mortal sin. Today, eating meat on Friday is not a mortal sin. When and how did God communicate the original no-meat rule to humans? Why did God change his mind about it? When and how did God communicate this rule change to humans? And what happened to all the souls suffering for eternity in hell who'd been sent there for eating a bologna sandwich on the wrong day of the week? Were they reprieved, or are they still down there?
Yeah, true argument. Heck, why is Pope Francis so supportive of anything? Why did he endorse same sex marriages if that was punishable by hanging a few centuries ago? Did God communicate to him and him only that it is now totally fine for gay people to be gay? What about those who were a few centuries back? They are boiling in hell for it. Makes no sense. Only enforces the fact the religion is a social construct
@@mateipopescu4338 To his people he is the vicar of christ, that means orders go from god to the pope to the rest of his flock. Hell, according to the tradition is reserved for anyone who blasphemes the holy spirit all other "sins" are forgivable.
God has created humans to be free willed creatures, as they can do good or evil. The evil part of humans make them abuse and modify any law, guidance, instruction or even true information. Quran is the last updated message for the humans.
@@mazen1010 According to the book he made us good, and then when we ate from the tree of knowledge we had the ability to be both good and bad, but we were not designed that way.
I'm at the point where I'm bored with it. There's only so many years you can debate this stuff and you continue to hear new stuff. I find it alot more fun to debate free will with people. I admire guys like RR that can spend countless hours with something that should be obvious.
I think it‘s reasonable that if there is a first cause that initiated everything, it‘s most likely a being that chose to start the chain of cause and effect
@@lendrestapas2505 Could very well be, i am not saying it isnt, but assuming sentients by default is wrong to me. We simply dont know, but theists assume things like that to further their narrative knowing that its not correct to assume. IMHO
Even schoolchildren can recognize *the in-commensurable power and intelligence* involved to obtain this reality with intelligent beings from (starting with) such a tremendous event like the Big Bang. As there are billions of cells required for us to be able to live this earthly life, in the same way there are required billions of galaxies for the intelligent life to be created intentionally to have 100% freedom, like humans on Earth (think how wonderful the Creator is, the opposite of a dictator, to create this reality in this way, with 100% freedom). He has told us to live in freedom but to not use freedom as a cover-up for evil. Unfortunately, Satan, the fallen angels, respectively their tools in this reality - the evil=stupid humans - have used (are using) the freedom offered by God to do evil. However, all will be judged 100% correctly by God/Jesus and all will receive what they deserve. No matter how many times some atheists will keep denying the obvious/proven truths, without at least one valid argument to sustain their denying, anyone can see that all their questions are answered (into my messages posted recently on such videos), but they cannot answer to just one question: *Are you, finally, willing to recognize the fact that you cannot be the result of no intelligence?* All the best!
@Eshita Shukla again.. you're an actual real creature with beingness and so is the one that creatured you. Spend more time seeking and less time rejecting like an ignorant
@Eshita Shukla sociopath. . God isn't a creature. You are a creature. You are real. You were not conjurred up by a dumb unaware magicaly existing universe forming chemical daddy.
Me: On such a stressful election day here in the US, let's find a light-hearted, easy-going RUclips video to get my mind off things RR: Let's debunk arguments for the existence of God Me: Perfect
@@Geopoliticstoday2 why would the effectiveness of voting make Election Day more or less stressful? It’s a stressful day because of the anticipation. Americans (voters and non-voters alike) don’t know what’s going to happen next. How bad will the bloodshed get? How long will the civil war last?
What I enjoy is asking christians "do you understand probability" and after they have said yes, and I've asked a few simple probability questions that they can't answer. I get to point out that they were obviously lying when they said they understood probability. :-)
i think Atheism is inconsistent with Science . When someone says i don`t believe or there is no proof It’s a declaration. in Science you don`t do declarations .
@@passionoflovers I've searched for decades. Every one offered up is defective. Some fool stupid people when cleverly presented. But anyone can see through them if they think things through.
At least nowadays most of the religion based conflicts are on RUclips and don’t involve bloodshed. Well, in the west at least. And I am pretty convinced that if humanity didn’t have religion they would spend their precious time rationalizing irrational philosophies.
I love how this guy sticks with science everytime he likes it, but when it conflicts with his made up claims, he denies that particular bit of science. Just as much as he picks and chooses what to like from his favorite book. Anyhow, well debunked!
@@barrygormley3986 believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.
@@aomorgancool1775 If you really cared about convincing people of your position you'd make an actual argument instead of mindlessly repeating platitudes.
That caterpillar didn't feel a thing. It was already dead when the parasite took over. The only unsettling thought is how evolution combined with those parasites can make for a possibility of an actual zombie apocalypse. But fortunately we most likely will never see that happen in our lifetime and plus the odds and probabilities of that happening are slim to none.
@@likelightning9653 How did you know it didn't feel anything? Live caterpillars are implanted with wasp eggs, which develop into wasp larvae by consuming the guts of the caterpillar while it is still alive. Then the larvae rupture the skin to leave the caterpillar - at which point the caterpillar may be dead, but it still had to experience relatively large things growing inside it and consuming its organs in the process.
@@FactPlace-ip5ly Unless one came out of an insane asylum and don't understand how reality works, you got to be a perfect imbecile trying to prove or debunk the existence of God.
Repetition creates assuredness. If you hear the same lame, tired old argument again and again and again, it HAS to be true, else you would not hear it so often, would you? As what kyle repeats is the Doctrine of his sectarian employer, he is literally IN-doctrine-ating his audience and proud of it. I am sure last week i saw another video of his being debunked where he argued that secular schools were just indoctrinating kids for nefarious purposes... which was BAD in his eyes... The supersonic boom all that irony makes when it goes straight over his head, must be deafening around him...
No need to pick solely on the U.S. for bad choices in representatives; the rest of the world abounds with them as well. We're just everyone's favorite whipping boy, I suspect because many of those in other countries would rather deride Americans than take a sober look at themselves (and many Americans fall for the rhetoric).
@@Bannockburn111 Yes, but no other nation proclaims itself the greatest nation on earth, no other nation sets itself the high standard being the freest nation on earth etc. To the rest of the world the US often comes across as an arrogant bully with a really big stick... two of them in fact (Military and economy). A nation like that, and you had Trump and Hillary as a choice in 2016 (Do I want to be hit with a frying pan or a bat?... meh) And in 2020 you had two old fellars, one a raving lunatic, the other can barely string a coherent sentence together. I'll leave it to the audience to decide which was which there. (Maybe both statements apply to both men in question??)
Me and a friend debating religion... Me: Brings up Greek Gods. Him "Those are just myths" Me "It was a religion before our time." Him: Unfriends me on Facebook and never spoken to him since...
If God does not exist than answer this simple Question: When a women get pregnant why after that she produce milk even before she was also eating food and thing that when baby was born he has no teeths it was because during feeding, he was not able to bite on breast. Please tell me logically can a mother design this mechanism of its own?
@@mehranbashir.7278 It's your claim that she produce milk only when a baby was born because of God, so the burden of proof relies on you. First of all, define God, and then explain with a logical model as to how it is only God that causes a woman to produce milk only after a baby is born.
@@SriHarshaChilakapati I think u take it as a wrong way.my main motive was women not decide that when she need to produce milk and when not because she has no direct control on that and if can't do breast feeding that is harmful for herself,Any supernatural being is must be behind that process and I know she can produce before pregnancy but unwillingly.
@MEHRAN BASHIR. You can't stop your heat bate willingly either. It's called involuntary control. You don't control your digestion either. There s nothing supernatural in it.
Dont forget that god also knew you would sin that specific sin the moment he gave free will So not only does he punish you for what you did He put in place the framework for you to do so
If God is omniscient, then the future is set and there is no free will. If the future is not set in stone, then God is not omniscient. If God is omnipotent, he could do anything he wanted instantly without any effort. If God took 6 days to create the world, plus all life and then had to rest on the 7th, then he is not omnipotent.
@@maythesciencebewithyou basically a walking contridiction Theists just dont seem to get it . This story was made thousands of years ago before people understood the finer workongs of story telling 😂
Why is it that such juvenile comments appear on such a nuanced channel? The man is offering arguments against the existence of god, something that philosophers have debated for millennia and you make a jibe about scooby-do lol.
@@bobnub8194 oh i understand it was meant in good humour. But that's just my point, humour is often the only thing to be found in the comments section of this channel That or a sea of heads nodding in agreement with everything Steve says. Pity it doesn't seem to be the place for any nuanced debate on the actual content of the videos.
Yes it is a style that makes it so much more compelling. The use of sarcasm and jokes also adds to the presentation and style too without crossing lines or becoming rhetoric driven or overly emotional. You have assembled a great balance that makes it hard to dismiss. I also like that while you often attack the vulnerabilities and open flaws of religious thinking, you do not limit your video's to exclusively atheistic content. I actually prefer the videos about other irrational beliefs and feel that this makes you so much more than just some guy who doesn't believe in a god. It shows the reality is, you are more well rounded and consistently debunk subjective belief systems in general, and that this is the point. You do not come off as hung up on God alone but instead come off as someone who has a problem with broken thinking based on an inability to see the situation clearly. That is much more difficult to dismiss or be offended by.
As a former atheist, this entire video is capitalizing on the majorities ignorance to pursue the knowledge for themselves and instead he focuses on the weak links. Why not challenge one of plenty of scientists from MIT who believe in intelligent design? Even atheist Richard Dawkins has recently admitted to believing in intelligent design, why not challenge him? Ain’t it weird that he leaves out that Charles Darwin clearly stated that he was NOT an atheist! He’s simply capitalizing on people ignorance.
Apologists: Start with my conclusion and railroad the arguments to get there no matter how ridiculous the path might be. (IOW, they never "follow" the arguments, they drive them toward their chosen destination, which is another way of phrasing what you said)
This makes no sense. You need to learn about deductive logic a little better if you believe that this is all apologists are doing. In a deductive argument, a valid argument doesn't necessarily result in an accurate conclusion..... but if the premises of a valid argument are true, then the conclusion is necessarily true. An argument can be valid, but contain false premises.... in this case the conclusion isn't necessarily true The bottom line is that you need to test the truth of the premises in order to determine if an argument is both valid and true. Eg. 1. All dogs have hats 2. Harry is a dog 3. Therefore Harry has a hat. This would be an example of a valid argument, but as we know that not all dogs have hats, we have insufficient information to conclude if Harry indeed has a hat. However if the argument was 1. All dogs are mammals 2. Harry is a dog 3. Therefore Harry is a mammal This would be an example of a valid argument by which the premises are true, resulting in the conclusion being necessarily true. Therefore, if an apologist presents a valid argument, and the premises are accurate- the conclusion must necessarily be accurate. I hope this helps
@Jinn Genie ummm... ok, William Lane Craig's defence of the Kalam Cosmological Argument seems to do a pretty good job of this. There's a few steps to the argument, but it's sound. Rather than breaking the argument down for you (I suggest studying his defence of it slowly and carefully in your own time) , I'll just explain how it works... His argument establishes that the universe had a cause, examines deductively the necessary properties of the cause, and provides a deductive interpretation of all of this to conclude that the cause must be intelligent and personal.
@Jinn Genie "the universe has a cause" is a premises that depends on the universe beginning to exist. This premise is supported by both the big bang theory and by string theory, which are theories typically championed by atheists.... assuming either are correct, the universe has a beginning. The rest of what you say about Craig is ad hominem, which is foolishly something you persist in using time and time again.
@Jinn Genie then the premise you're disputing is his first premise, not the second premise. So your objection is that you aren't convinced that anything which begins to exist has a cause for it's existence. There are 4 types of causes. Material, formal, final, and efficient. In this occasion we are discussing something called "efficient causation"' which is an antecedent condition by which something is brought about... by necessity, if something begins to exist there must be something antecedent behind it... if things could just pop into existence uncaused, then why don't we ever see random things manifest out of nowhere at random? Are you really trying to rest your coat on something that really came into existence being entirely uncaused? That doesn't make sense. It would make sense to say that there is no material cause for material initially existing... but to assume no efficient cause at all is entirely irrational. As Craig puts it "that's worse than magic, because with magic you at least have the magician to pull the rabbit out of the hat - and the hat, too." And I disagree that Craig has no understanding of science. He doesn't just use deductive arguments, but also inductive arguments (which is the form of argumentation scientific theory is built on) - and he inductively argues from scientific observations at times, too - which is how the scientific method is conducted. It isn't just the collecting and presenting of data, but also a rationalised interpretation of data. Even the scientists who argue that the universe "came from nothing" acknowledge that by "nothing", they actually mean "nothing physical", and that an efficient cause still exists. The Big Bang Theory, and String Theory are indeed theories supported by scientists - yet as I previously evidenced, 51% of scientists have some kind of theistic belief... you were mistaken the first time you made the claim that most scientists (around 80%) are atheists, but after I shared the research - you're just being dishonest by making this claim. And ad hominem is a common sign someone is experiencing cognitive dissonance... so how do you think you're coming across right now?
This guy's accent is literally the epitome of American theistic ignorance. Literally can't take him seriously with a voice like that. Edit: And the random pauses and emphasis he does while speaking is straight up annoying. It makes him sound disingenuous to me, not conversational.
@@joshferns7114 You mean, like - Polymers ("plastic) from monomeres? - Iron from Iron oxide? (as all other metals reduced from their oxides) - Ceramics from metals ("Eloxal")? - gasoline from crude oil? - Hydrogen from natural gas? - Heavy water from water? Or did you have anything special in mind?
A singularity is a point in mathematics and what physics took from mathematics where a formula stops giving out useful results. Like going to infinnite and such. It is not a definition of a type of object (like a black hole, although the center of a Black hole CAN be described as a singularity, but only cause we do not truly understand what happens there, not cause the term Singularity explains anything about it) Calling anything a singularity means "we cannot tell you what rules are valid for this", it does not mean "we can determine this to be the origin of it" or "this is what needs to happen for it to come to be". IoW Kyle Butt lied his family name off.
I'm a ninth grader who does astrobiology and yeah I saw that mistake as he said it. Bro, I physically face-palmed. Yeah it isn't the main point but just a simple point, that can be corrected with a simple search on google, but no, he didn't even get that right. pfft.
@@tedferkin Yeah i get that - i was just saying that it is a simple fact that not too many people know and he is purposefully doing. It is like one of my biggest pet peeves. When people purposefully mislead.
Oh by the way, if you fell into a black hole, you wouldn’t reach the singularity at a place, you’d reach it at a time. Time and space flip rules inside black holes, creating that effect.
Theists often claim that the universe is fine tuned for life and forget to mention the majority of the observable universe is incredibly hostile to life, and even on earth, 99% of all species have gone extinct. Yeah, some design.
@Joel Jino 99% of all species that once existed since life began are now extinct, genius. The 1% that are alive today makes up for the current animal kingdom. Crack up a biology or zoology book once in a while.
(Either my sarcasm was too subtle or the very concept just stopped existing in the past hour) Proof 1: The law of cause and effect proves god exists Refute: Yet somehow it convieniently doesn't apply to him in any way shape or form Proof 2: complex design requires a complex designer, look at the birds and the trees Refute: and the cancer, the diseases, the parasites, birth defects... I'm sorry do you want me to keep going? Proof 3: life doesn't come from non living things Refute: ignoring abiogenesis for a minute I guess bacteria just stopped existing then Proof 4: morals demand a teacher Refute: True but that teacher doesn't necessarily have to be god himself. It could be your parents, your siblings, or even your children. Just because there is a teacher of such things doesn't mean it is obviously this one specific thing doing the teaching Proof 5: Free will exists Refute: I'd like to introduce to nueroscience just in case you happened to forget about that Proof 6: Human Reasoning Refute: going to back to number 5, again, we have the biological capability of doing these things on our own thanks to something called the brain. But of course I forget, christians are the ones who say rely on a deity who takes two years to answer a question versus a search engine that can give you millions of results in under a second
Replying to your response to the first argument: the kalam cosmological argument is consistent and give a first cause argument without this „inconvenience“
It's also funny watching Christians like Kyle try to define material vs immaterial and the lore of both like they're reading a rulebook. The very state of existing as a thing makes it material. If you don't have an effect on the world you don't exist. If you're immaterial you by definition can't be material. Kyle seems to think that immaterial has special properties that make it able to be material at the same time but also not having the negative consequences of being material? It's an unfalsifiable mess.
"something can not come from nothing" But somehow...an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent creator can? Also if this guy was born a buddhist...he'd be doing buddhist videos on YT.
I don't think that "Does god exist?" is a profound question. I think it's a silly question, like asking, "do finnelnerps exist?" I literally just made that up and it would be absurd to the nth degree for me to say, "well, you can't prove they don't exist" now just because I've introduced them into the conversation. This is what both Theists and Extheists do. They say something primitive man made up could possibly exist because the word exists. That's not how things work. I'm tired of this argument already. Gods are as made up as finnelnerps!
@@leyrua but they do believe in breathing something into existence they should breath a new argument into existence. Oh wait thats why all of they’re arguments are the same it has a common designer
@@FactPlace-ip5ly created is the word. Also.... Proved by evolution , no life doesn't require a god or creator at that . Life can appear and disappear if given required environment and time . It is just that . We are a life form that evolved into what we are . Pretty far from perfect biologically speaking which also would mean that if god existed he would be one shitty made being . But god doesn't exist . I visited few branches of Christian church , Islam and others.... Even took part in tribal rituals . All of those were tests and trials i used to try finding truth , and truth i found was that religion is just a big old lie made up by men for control over men in a specific way.... So nope , i do not require god to live , god doesn't exist and humans are pretty much just another branch of primate evolution , just a bit more successful than any other before us , but honestly it could have happened to other animals too , we are just most adapted species yet to exist .
@PA Outdoorsman My problem with people’s religion is when those people apply their severely lacking in proof of reality beliefs that are actually morally lacking (just read the WHOLE Bible to learn “God’s” immoralities) , into everyone else’s verifiable reality. Don’t know if your religious yourself but everything you experience today from technology, medicine and secular ethics comes from real people recognizing the one real world we live in and working to make this a better place for us as a society.... instead of relying on a unverifiable imaginary god and afterlife world from people who were more ignorant of the real physical world than any non-handicapped person in today’s society. I could go on and on but luckily with steady generations of continuing education, every active religion is slowly trending into histories bookshelf of mythology.
@@blackice9088 Try reading Genesis, it's pretty clear there. If you don't agree with it, that's absolutely fine. Just give me a "reasonable" explanation of where all the atoms came from.
The only proof they need is to get God to come down and show itself. And I bet you, if there is an all powerful being out there and it actually descends to earth, alot of religious won't believe that it is their allpowerful god, but some lower being. Especially, when that "god" tells them all their beliefs are bullshit and he's the actual most powerful being in the universe and gives a rats ass about them. Even if that "god" turned out to be the actual inspiration for all the myths. Even if that "god" turned out to be the guy who trolled Moses. The religious would not be able to accept it and claim that there true God exists.
@@maythesciencebewithyou Eyup and I bet good money that if Jesus did return like the religious types keep claiming he will, they wouldnt believe him. He'd probably get thrown in the loony bin, if people even bothered listening to him at all.
I was rewatching it just to refresh my memory about the arguments and found an interesting twist - an argument in the Sixth Proof disproves the Fourth Proof. Our capability of reasoning in the abstract shows we could, in fact, view everything (including morality) from an objective point of view, thus giving humanity the ability to develop an objectively moral framework and rules.👩🎓👨🎓
Can you explain this idea bit more in depth? Because it kind of sounds like you're saying we could just change our definition of objectivity, thus somehow making something objective?
Having a mathematics background and seeing the title, my first thought was 'If they are valid proofs, then one would suffice'. If you need 6, they probably aren't proofs in the mathematical sense.
Mathematical proofs dont exist outside of mathematics so of course he wouldn't have a mathematical proof. Also there's a book with 100 proofs for pythagoras theorem. Doesnt mean they are bad. Just that there are many ways to prove something that is correct. That said this guy has nothing of value to come with.
Why do you think you can disprove God with math? Math actually makes a case for God. What makes an even greater case is you being an actual creature. I suggest you drop your atheism it is an ignorance
@@gulgaffel obviously there is none other than one equals life and zero equals no life. You exist in life. You are a creature. You require and have a God. Get real
@@FactPlace-ip5ly wow that's dissapointing it has nothing to do with maths. I'm not even sure it's an argument. You claim life requires a god without any proof or argument as to why.
How does God knowing everything deprive humans of their free will? You are assuming the only way he could see your future is by planning it out for you.
@@Sam-fq5qu if I know exactly what you are going to do then do you actually have free will to do what you want? For example, if I know what you are going to eat for breakfast can you choose to eat something different? If you can't then how is it free will? If you can then I actually didn't know. I wouldn't need to plan it out to strip you of the free will. You'd have the illusion of choice but it wouldn't be actual choice.
@D'Chaun Palu if God knows you are going to choose pancakes then you didn't really have a choice. You were going to eat pancakes no matter what. God wouldn't have to force you to do it. It's the fact that the outcome was you eating pancakes was already set in time. There was nothing you could do to change it. Now if you could choose the eggs and did then that means God didn't know what you were going to choose. You can't have free will and an all knowing being. They're mutually exclusive. You can have the illusion of free will even if you can't choose the eggs. Since we don't know what's going to happen before hand it can appear like we had a choice. I'm not saying we don't have free will but I am saying if an all knowing being existed it would guarantee we didn't have free will.
@D'Chaun Palu God being outside of time doesn't solve it. Fundamentally you can't have both. For god to know what you are going to have for breakfast tomorrow would mean you don't have a choice in what you are going to have. As in you can't choose something other that what god knows you are going to have. If you could choose something else then that means god didn't know. God doesn't have to force you to have that specific thing for breakfast. If I had a machine that was able to show me everything you're going to do tomorrow can you really say you have any freewill in what you do tomorrow?
@D'Chaun Palu that's not how it works. You seem to think I'm arguing against God. The fact i would know what you were going to do means you don't have the choice to do something else. This isn't difficult logic.
If the entire universe appears designed, then there is nothing that could appear undesigned, and therefore how would we even understand the difference between something that is designed or not designed?
I am a theoretical biologist who also believes in God. I enjoyed this video, but I would like to make some remarks. You and the guy in the video are both coming from very similar viewpoint, which (from my limited knowledge of modern philosophy) comes from the anglophone sphere which enjoys analytical philosophy. The anglo-american world applies entirely different reasoning about ideas than we, who are descendants of the "continental" streamline of philosophy, as we are the heirs of Husserl, Heidegger, Bergson and others, who have different way of reasoning and values. it seems to me that you guys (and other prominent figures in the far-western atheism/theism debate, like Lennox, Dawkins, Lawrence, going back to Russel, Paley etc.) operate in a very narrow framework which, in my honest opinion, lacks imagination. You think of yourselves as diametrically opposite, but it seems to me you really are not. I love btw how Darwin is basically your prophet and Origin of species is your divinely inspired Book of the Law. Let me give you some examples: 1) you both apply weird logic to your "rational" arguments. You "debunk" his third "proof" (from design) by appealing to nasty things in nature. i can honestly tell you that as a biologist there is no thing more interesting and life-promoting than parasitism. There are theories which say that parasitism is one of the main driving forces of evolution. When you study the relationships between the parasite and the host, an entire world of BEAUTY opens up to you, you see both organisms striving, fighting, even cooperating at times... I can honestly tell you that honest study of biology (and I would say that deep study of anything does that) shows you how nothing is inherently disgusting, evil or nasty. And this is what I found interesting about your "debunking", you completely shifted your position from a "rationality rules" to "my human feelings rule", since you just "feel" that some forms of parasitism or cancer are "just not right". But I can really easily imagine how a good God brings forth a world such as ours. You just need the eyes to see it, which doesn't (contrary to what someone might think) involve self-deception, but study! 2) Narrow idea of God. You and the guy in the video are exactly the same by virtue of utilizing the same primitive view of God. What if God is what you call "laws of nature"? What if God is an abstract category as Being itself? What if God is the innermost basis of your subjectivity? What if God is the Entirety of all that exists? What if God is ones conscience? What if God is my t-shirt? What if money is my God? What if God is found solely in 'the story' of Israel? What if God is only in stories? What if the Sun, the Moon, sky or the Earth is God? But the problem is that you both claim to KNOW who or what God is and that is irritating, since you both have very primitive and child-like idea of God as some sort of mental/ethereal skydaddy. You mock believers for believing in a skydaddy, but then you come down to their level and don't have the imagination for other possibilities. Aquinas' Summa shouldn't be read because of his five ways to win arguments, but to get the grasp of what he actually means by God! But not to critique only you, the video guy also said a lot of nonsense:, I am always irritated by these so called "rational proofs" presented in this cocky "gotcha atheists" manner, but I am also irritated by your "gotcha theists" cocky manners, since there is a world of possibilities that you aren't exploring and yet you have the gut to say what is or isn't true
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Everything we can observe, sense and measure is a machine (e.g. subatomic particles, atoms, molecules,...etc.) these machines are designed, manufactured and operated under strict set of physical laws. This means there must be an external force that is not affected by these physical laws who must have designed, manufactured and operated them.
8:22 When we realized shit hurt and that we don't want other people to feel what we felt. When we realized we could die, when we felt empathy for the first time...
I forgot about this channel so glad it popped up in my recommended. These videos are awesome I applaud your research and debunking of these stupid "definitions".
@@tonybanks1035 Understandable, I suggest using grammarly I speak three languages and I tend to mix one or two words together or use a word from a language, I am not supposed to be speaking in and grammarly has helped alot to fix this.
@@tonybanks1035I firmly believe it "dumbs down the average not the medium", essentially it may make alot of people have to put less effort in things, but it can also help fix the errors of people who put effort in and keep those same people learning on how what they did wrong can be fixed or better worded. Allowing you to progress better then you would have otherwise in a short amount of time.
"When someone is fooled & indoctrinated to consider an invisible imaginary God or a glorified religious figure or a man-made book sacred & pray to, you'll find dogma, motivated ignorance & mental acrobats trying to defend the sacredness."
I couldn't listen anymore after proof 3 - they're all just meaningless question begging. "Design requires a designer" - this statement is true (and redundant) but you have failed to demonstrate that the universe has been designed - you can't assume that to prove your conclusion unless you can back it up. And "appears to be designed" is not sufficient - a stain on a wall that looks like a face might "appear to be designed" but may better be explained (or may be known) to be caused by natural phenomena. Same principle applies with the universe.
The existence of God can not be negated by some word gymnastics, or even the dishonesty of one person. The existence of God is the only rational conclusion.
@@mazen1010 Hello. In the case where you cannot prove either way, the least rational thing to do is jump to a conclusion that begs a bigger question than it answers. Take care mate.
@@colinriches1519 My dear friend, I gave rational response to each claim in this video. Please read and we can discuss any point you like 1- Our observations tell us that everything we see is a result of an earlier manufacturing process. 2- The design that we see comes from the fact that if we dissemble any created machine (an atom, a molecule, a living cell, a living creature, a planet, a solar system, a galaxy...) we find that it's disassembly and reassembly requires strict processes, which follow strict physical laws. Now, we are not saying that the universe and our bodies were designed to be perfect and last for eternity, but this doesn't negate the fact that everything we can observe and measure requires manufacturing according to laws and specifications, and thus, are designed. Otherwise, everything can be manufactured by self-organizing self-assembly reactions. 3- As for the life emerging from non-living elements, we have no information and no understanding of how it happens and what are the manufacturing processes that are done to bring anything that is living. Now, we know that earth didn't have life at its early days, so for that we say that life was created by an invisible external force. 4- As for the moral case, it exists only because we define ourselves as higher than animal species that is connected to higher than life force, but otherwise, humans will be no different than any other biological creatures who follow the food chain laws. 5- Free will is a simulated feeling that God has implanted in us. 6- Natural selection doesn't give a reasoning process, this is just nature worshiping. May peace be upon you
@@mazen1010 Hello friend. I see what you mean with your first 3 points. Modern science and our understanding of the universe is limited by many factors. If I'm right in guessing that you are claiming God must have created everything because we have no other provable explanation? Personally I think it's jumping to a conclusion that cannot be backed by any evidence outside religion. I am more than willing to admit that I can't be sure on the origins of life but than nobody can really. Let's say you're right and there is a good and he created everything. That would mean he is entirely responsible for the multitudes of suffering and the whole situation really. I could not respect an all powerful being that would create us with inbuilt knowledge/instincts and then hide so brilliantly while threatening eternal punishment for not finding him. I have no instinct that tells me there's a good, but I can see how rich and powerful religious leaders become. Therein is the crux of religion. Peace to you.
@@mazen1010 Point 4 the moral case is one I find strange. Morality is not fully subjective or fully objective as the clergy would have people believe, it's very manipulative language. Morality is not something beyond our understanding, in fact it's very simple. It's based on the outcomes of your intentions filtered by your awareness. My moral compass works like this: do not intentionally cause harm to any other living being. Some of our actions cause harm without us knowing, for this we cannot be held responsible. But the actions people take to intentionally cause harm are morally wrong. Now compare that with eternal punishment for a 'crime' that doesn't harm anyone. It's safe to say that all versions of 'divine' morality are disgusting. Peace to you friend.
If god is omniscient. Then why bother praying. It is an act of pure selfishness when you ask god to change his plans to suit you. Its like Darth Vader's actor asking George Lucas " Can I say Luke....I am your transgender Aunty..". Its dumb.
We don’t pray to change Gods will to give us what we want, we pray to know what Gods will is for our lives. If God is omniscient He probably knows what’s best for your life... right?
@@TheprophetJeremiah25 Clearly yall been praying for forgiveness and to save others. Certainly selfish. God certainly doesn't know what's best for your lofe either. Getting raped, molested, tortured, murdered aren't the best or god isn't good of a god as people claim
Not to mention prayer is the same thing as telling God he’s wrong. I bet God likes being told he’s wrong. He probably even rewards being told he’s wrong. I’m crippled. Which means arrogant motherfuckers often go out of their way to tell me they will let God know that God is wrong. On my behalf. And they think I’m supposed to appreciate it.
@@owenmcateer721 now there's a religion I can get behind. Can you combine this with the Holiest of Noodles, the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I have some ideas 💡
When I meet someone like that religious person, I usually just smile and laugh. I should know better. I wrote something then thought, nope, not worth the effort, not playing.
Once again another thoroughly dishonest, fallacious and overtly biased Christian who only demonstrate his evidential burden failures and unsound arguments.
@@timmytohns5479 You took the words out of my mouth :) Anyway @Phil Kesler if you're a Christian can you demonstrate your supposed god exists, or are you like every other theist who has failed in their burden?
The idea that everything just appeared out of thin air like a magical genie is the level of thinking a child has And, even if it were true, it also includes all the bad things Typhoid, cancer in children, nazi death camps
I love how every single "proof" this guy offers for a god is just him asserting bullshit. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, assertion of bullshit is a common tactic for apologists, after all, but it still gives me a good laugh.
@@247tubefan I agree, but what I meant was, how would the existence of logic be an argument for God. It's man made, it's our way of explaining how us humans think
Why, oh, why can't these people stay in their own lane? It is almost painful to watch the feeble attempts to use "science" to justify their imaginary friends. Keep up the good work.
Because if you knew something to be absolutely true wouldn’t you tell people about it?... Robert you are gonna die some day just like the rest of us and I know you have a feeling that there is something after death. So I’ll tell you this if you reject God in this life he will grant you your wishes in the next. God made a way that you may have enteral life through Jesus! “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14:6. Put your faith and trust in Jesus and you be saved.
Humanity as a whole did. You atheists like to break apart from the whole as if you are some special creature that can exist as Gods creature without having a God. Unfortunately you can't you have one and always will.
@@GutsEnthusiast there is one assuming you are a creature. You cannot be a creature without one unfortunately. Even lucifer has a God he just denies him remember. 😂
Fact: you are a creature you have and require a God Atheist: but but I don't want a God I want to believe I was conjured up as a talking creature by a dumb unaware magicaly existing universe forming chemical daddy.
I was born and raised in an extreme Christian cult. I never had the chance to think beyond, “How’d the universe come about...God? Ok! Done!” I finally escaped and I’m in a place of true freedom to explore everything. I guess right now I’d say I’m an agnostic atheist but maybe that label will change, maybe I don’t want a label. But videos like this REALLY assist me in attempting to deprogram my brain and think for myself. Thank you for making it. It genuinely had a positive effect on someone who needed it, I just wanted you to know that :)
The more you get away from religion the more depressed you get so keep it up atheist and make the world a depressing place with pretty much no reason to live:) Europeans are dying out because they’re becoming more atheist and Islam is taking over in Europe
“How’d the universe come about...God? Ok! Done!” yeah... but dont you remenber they didn't just saw the earth and the sky and concluded "there is a god!". mabye its because this so called "God" that you deny gave them scripture. and miracles. read the Bible read the Dhammapada read the Torah read the Daodejing read the Bhagavad Gita read the Quran, where it all leads. (do your own research if you're not convinced yet, you'll see...) "then come back to me, indeed death is very near. if you are aware of the end, why not think about it more often? does it scare you? does it really? even if it is just a possibility, Hell, might just be real. Is also found in all religions as well as Paradise... hmm... weird coincidence huh? and if you dont change now, you shall see it, with your very own eyes. soon..." *ITS NOT TOO LATE TO TURN BACK !!*
When you look at the world, which for the most part has been millions of years of mass extinctions combined with giant insects and monstrous reptiles eating each other alive, how can you not believe in an intelligent loving designer?
Since my so-called delusions about Christ and God I have definitely become more loving less critical I love others more caring less deceitful I definitely began to have empathy for others.... how can anyone possibly say that this is a negative thing
When I turned 6, I gave up my christian faith... It just made no sense. There is no god, there are simpler explications... and I figured this out at 6.
@@stardustchimp375 problem is you assuming you were conjured up by a dumb unaware magicaly existing universe forming chemical daddy. You have a God. And you are being. It's not odd your God is a greater one. Get over yourself you are the creature. Your God isn't like you.. it's time to grow up Svetlana. This is 2021.
@Nehemiah Scudder you aren't an imaginary creature unfortunately. You require and have an actual God. Religion has nothing to do with this life has one God creature.
It's always funny to me how they go "There isn't anything that could have caused nothing to become something, therefore my God caused nothing to become something"
I’ve been away from atheistic content for a while, and coming back to see you doing such great and high quality work is amazing. athough, I’ve never cringed so hard at a theistic video before...that constant definition fabrication really got me.
The real question is, "Is the accent the cause of the religiosity or is the religiosity the cause of the accent? "
Lmao
I was just thinking the exact same thing right when the video started! 🤣
Growing up in small town ky I had to actively work on dropping any kind of ridiculous accent. Years of work, but definitely worth it.
Why does every english-speaking actor in the world know that if they want to play a stupid person they put on an accent from the US south? Could it have anything to do with preachers like this?
@@bigdoodoo3530 I think it’s just associated with rural living and or uneducated areas of America. In almost every country there are dialects and accents perceived as rough/dirty/informal, because those speakers are often from undereducated areas or it’s possible that the official/proper dialects taught are usually the “formal” versions. Probably why most people hold the stereotype that the British accent is the most distinguished and high class because it feels the most proper.
This video should be titled:
Apologist bingo speedrun 100%
I know, right. It's like a greatest hits list.
LMAO Just ignore me. I was just looking for an excuse to push my cat away to comment and help with letters and stuff. This was one hell of an excuse. I love it! :D
Idk. Turn it into a drinking game.
@@dfreeman13 That's not a game, that's a death wish.
@@stylis666 believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.
I love how theist's claim that the universe has to have a creator in order to exist, but then don't apply this same logic to the idea of god existing.
The plus and minus infinity (and even zero) are not numbers, but no number can exist without them. So, God is the singular entity who is needed by the universe, but he is not one of the elements of the universe.
@@mazen1010 Except zero is a real number, as it describes a real life state, such as when an object is not in motion. Infinity is not a real number, but it is not necessary for other numbers to exist, it is simply a human concept used to help us understand certian concepts within maths. It is a tool within a toolkit. If you take it out the toolkit, the toolkit becomes less useful, but it is still a toolkit.
Because if God actually created the universe that means God would have to be infinity. Meaning he was always here and been here. he is the alpha and omega.
@@ccricegaming no evidence, stop assuming.
@@ccricegaming So you're saying God's been around forever lonely on his tod? 😂 just picturing the assertions of the sheep can be highly amusing. Then I realise that's a person who's had their brain assaulted by greedy, evil scammers. Poor sheep 😔
When I was a boy, I was taught, as a Catholic, I would go to hell if I ate meat on Friday and died before confessing; this was a mortal sin. Today, eating meat on Friday is not a mortal sin. When and how did God communicate the original no-meat rule to humans? Why did God change his mind about it? When and how did God communicate this rule change to humans? And what happened to all the souls suffering for eternity in hell who'd been sent there for eating a bologna sandwich on the wrong day of the week? Were they reprieved, or are they still down there?
That was a made up tradition by a made up religious group.
Yeah, true argument. Heck, why is Pope Francis so supportive of anything? Why did he endorse same sex marriages if that was punishable by hanging a few centuries ago? Did God communicate to him and him only that it is now totally fine for gay people to be gay? What about those who were a few centuries back? They are boiling in hell for it. Makes no sense. Only enforces the fact the religion is a social construct
@@mateipopescu4338 To his people he is the vicar of christ, that means orders go from god to the pope to the rest of his flock. Hell, according to the tradition is reserved for anyone who blasphemes the holy spirit all other "sins" are forgivable.
God has created humans to be free willed creatures, as they can do good or evil. The evil part of humans make them abuse and modify any law, guidance, instruction or even true information. Quran is the last updated message for the humans.
@@mazen1010 According to the book he made us good, and then when we ate from the tree of knowledge we had the ability to be both good and bad, but we were not designed that way.
God, I’m so tired of religion.
You said it! Lol
I'm at the point where I'm bored with it. There's only so many years you can debate this stuff and you continue to hear new stuff. I find it alot more fun to debate free will with people. I admire guys like RR that can spend countless hours with something that should be obvious.
That's the wonderful thing about our era. Religion is no longer something forced down your throat and forced to live under. Wonderful times.
@@MikkosFree That is definitely not the case for many, many people. That's why it's so important to keep fighting... Exhausting though it may be.
They still use the same old debunked arguments for god and it gets tiresome.
I love how the first "cause" is always defaulted to a sentient creator. lol.
And of course not just any creator, but the specific deity that is the Christian perception of the Abrahamic god. 😁😂
@@robi481 Amazing isnt it? How it can not only be assigned sentients, but be the specific deity that they have been spoon fed with since diapers. lol.
At best these arguments imply weak deism. The prime mover that lights the fuse then disappears.
I think it‘s reasonable that if there is a first cause that initiated everything, it‘s most likely a being that chose to start the chain of cause and effect
@@lendrestapas2505 Could very well be, i am not saying it isnt, but assuming sentients by default is wrong to me. We simply dont know, but theists assume things like that to further their narrative knowing that its not correct to assume. IMHO
Spoiler alert: these aren't proofs, not even evidence.
'evidences'.
Excyse me while I gag I said that.
It's already a plural, this is just bad English.
@mickor Sapolsky calls it Meta magical Schizo typical schizophrenia with a smidge of OCD.
@mickor or a mental illness
@@AngelEmfrbl
One could argue that so is your spelling of the word ‘excuse’.
@@AngelEmfrbl
When there are none, why use plurial ? Usually plurial is used above 1 !
"The universe looks designed", where did you see the one that didn't look designed so I can appreciate the "looks designed" you speak of.
Even schoolchildren can recognize *the in-commensurable power and intelligence* involved to obtain this reality with intelligent beings from (starting with) such a tremendous event like the Big Bang.
As there are billions of cells required for us to be able to live this earthly life, in the same way there are required billions of galaxies for the intelligent life to be created intentionally to have 100% freedom, like humans on Earth (think how wonderful the Creator is, the opposite of a dictator, to create this reality in this way, with 100% freedom). He has told us to live in freedom but to not use freedom as a cover-up for evil. Unfortunately, Satan, the fallen angels, respectively their tools in this reality - the evil=stupid humans - have used (are using) the freedom offered by God to do evil. However, all will be judged 100% correctly by God/Jesus and all will receive what they deserve.
No matter how many times some atheists will keep denying the obvious/proven truths, without at least one valid argument to sustain their denying, anyone can see that all their questions are answered (into my messages posted recently on such videos), but they cannot answer to just one question:
*Are you, finally, willing to recognize the fact that you cannot be the result of no intelligence?*
All the best!
@Eshita Shukla you are proof creature. Go find your God
@Eshita Shukla you won't find him being a crybaby and circle jerking with other lost creatures.
@Eshita Shukla again.. you're an actual real creature with beingness and so is the one that creatured you. Spend more time seeking and less time rejecting like an ignorant
@Eshita Shukla sociopath. . God isn't a creature. You are a creature. You are real. You were not conjurred up by a dumb unaware magicaly existing universe forming chemical daddy.
Me: On such a stressful election day here in the US, let's find a light-hearted, easy-going RUclips video to get my mind off things
RR: Let's debunk arguments for the existence of God
Me: Perfect
Stressful?
Oh....you think voting matters.
Carry on.
@@Geopoliticstoday2
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@@Geopoliticstoday2 -- If a vote is suppressed into a dumpster behind the nearest Walmart... does everyone gain a pre-existing condition?
@@Geopoliticstoday2 why would the effectiveness of voting make Election Day more or less stressful?
It’s a stressful day because of the anticipation. Americans (voters and non-voters alike) don’t know what’s going to happen next. How bad will the bloodshed get? How long will the civil war last?
Evangelical: Trump became president. Therefore god.
Did he miss out the 'What are the odds?' argument, or was it lumped in with number 2? I always enjoy it when Creationists do Probability.
He kinda ties it in to 2 or 3 of the others. He basically says unlikely is synonymous with literally impossible at least twice.
What I enjoy is asking christians "do you understand probability" and after they have said yes, and I've asked a few simple probability questions that they can't answer. I get to point out that they were obviously lying when they said they understood probability. :-)
or maybe you are looking at it from a different view
@@torontoash45 Yes, the view that doesn't encompass an 'argument from incredulity'
i think Atheism is inconsistent with Science . When someone says i don`t believe or there is no proof It’s a declaration. in Science you don`t do declarations .
Were there any valid proofs, every rational person would believe. So far, not one has been offered.
dO yOuR rEsEaRcH!
none of the 6 "proofs" this grifter mentioned were anything remotely close to being proofs at all.
@@passionoflovers I've searched for decades. Every one offered up is defective. Some fool stupid people when cleverly presented. But anyone can see through them if they think things through.
@@passionoflovers One thing the religious are totally incapable of is doing unbiased research. There are others...
@@passionoflovers Why are you writting like that? You are typing like you are having a seizure,ffs.
I heard his accent and I know everything about him.
And that comment says everything about you.
@@rl7012 And that comment says one thing about you.
@@rl7012 triggereddddd
To broaden your experience and to help overcome that initial bias, I recommend having a listen to Beau of the fifth column.
@@rl7012 They are reffering to his use of disinformation and its similarity to the evangelicals of the Southern US.
Imagine how productive the world would be if humans didn’t spend all their precious time rationalising irrational beliefs.
Agree. I think we should be genetically modifying people right now, but because of religious influence people are against it.
They are doing it for money
At least nowadays most of the religion based conflicts are on RUclips and don’t involve bloodshed. Well, in the west at least.
And I am pretty convinced that if humanity didn’t have religion they would spend their precious time rationalizing irrational philosophies.
@@pansepot1490
Lol, nope. Beheading people is for real. So is taking women's rights away. Religion is still cancer.
@lion fish
I've yet to meet an atheist that would try to debunk religion.There's nothing to debunk because religion is bunk.
The stronger your country accent, the more likely you’ll find the Christian God
I’m joking, I’m joking
@@dexterharvey304, but it’s also true.
facts
@@duderyandude9515 is oddly true 😂
🤣😂
I love how this guy sticks with science everytime he likes it, but when it conflicts with his made up claims, he denies that particular bit of science. Just as much as he picks and chooses what to like from his favorite book.
Anyhow, well debunked!
100%
There is literally not one word of actual science in his video.
A.K.A " the texas sharpshooter " Fallacy
@@barrygormley3986 believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.
@@aomorgancool1775 If you really cared about convincing people of your position you'd make an actual argument instead of mindlessly repeating platitudes.
Oh my God, that poor caterpillar, I'm traumatised for an entire week
Yikes ! I stared at your pic now I’m hypnotised ..... and under this hypnosis I watched your music video
Mistress 🙏
That caterpillar didn't feel a thing. It was already dead when the parasite took over. The only unsettling thought is how evolution combined with those parasites can make for a possibility of an actual zombie apocalypse. But fortunately we most likely will never see that happen in our lifetime and plus the odds and probabilities of that happening are slim to none.
Oh no god*
@@likelightning9653 How did you know it didn't feel anything? Live caterpillars are implanted with wasp eggs, which develop into wasp larvae by consuming the guts of the caterpillar while it is still alive. Then the larvae rupture the skin to leave the caterpillar - at which point the caterpillar may be dead, but it still had to experience relatively large things growing inside it and consuming its organs in the process.
“Life demands a super natural life giver.”
Wait a minute is that a yo momma joke?
🌽 y 🏆
God is the conscious universe that created us and from which we are inseperable.
@@FactPlace-ip5ly Unless one came out of an insane asylum and don't understand how reality works, you got to be a perfect imbecile trying to prove or debunk the existence of God.
@@garystevenson5560lol, look who's talking about reality!! Basically you can't ever prove god's existence and that's that
@PA Outdoorsman Respecting someone's belief isn't an excuse to not call out something ridiculous.
I think they just recycle arguments at this point. 🤦
Repetition creates assuredness.
If you hear the same lame, tired old argument again and again and again, it HAS to be true, else you would not hear it so often, would you?
As what kyle repeats is the Doctrine of his sectarian employer, he is literally IN-doctrine-ating his audience and proud of it.
I am sure last week i saw another video of his being debunked where he argued that secular schools were just indoctrinating kids for nefarious purposes... which was BAD in his eyes... The supersonic boom all that irony makes when it goes straight over his head, must be deafening around him...
At this point? They’ve been doing that for centuries.
That's all they've been doing for the last 30 years.
Come on, give them a break. They've only had around 2000 years to come up with a good one.
@@Ixnatifual How do we exist today?
"We reason on a regular basis" Someone hasn't been watching the US elections! :D
true hahahaha
No need to pick solely on the U.S. for bad choices in representatives; the rest of the world abounds with them as well. We're just everyone's favorite whipping boy, I suspect because many of those in other countries would rather deride Americans than take a sober look at themselves (and many Americans fall for the rhetoric).
@@Bannockburn111 Yes, but no other nation proclaims itself the greatest nation on earth, no other nation sets itself the high standard being the freest nation on earth etc. To the rest of the world the US often comes across as an arrogant bully with a really big stick... two of them in fact (Military and economy). A nation like that, and you had Trump and Hillary as a choice in 2016 (Do I want to be hit with a frying pan or a bat?... meh) And in 2020 you had two old fellars, one a raving lunatic, the other can barely string a coherent sentence together. I'll leave it to the audience to decide which was which there. (Maybe both statements apply to both men in question??)
Me and a friend debating religion...
Me: Brings up Greek Gods.
Him "Those are just myths"
Me "It was a religion before our time."
Him: Unfriends me on Facebook and never spoken to him since...
Lol cool story bro...
If God does not exist than answer this simple Question:
When a women get pregnant why after that she produce milk even before she was also eating food and thing that when baby was born he has no teeths it was because during feeding, he was not able to bite on breast.
Please tell me logically can a mother design this mechanism of its own?
@@mehranbashir.7278 It's your claim that she produce milk only when a baby was born because of God, so the burden of proof relies on you. First of all, define God, and then explain with a logical model as to how it is only God that causes a woman to produce milk only after a baby is born.
@@SriHarshaChilakapati I think u take it as a wrong way.my main motive was women not decide that when she need to produce milk and when not because she has no direct control on that and if can't do breast feeding that is harmful for herself,Any supernatural being is must be behind that process and I know she can produce before pregnancy but unwillingly.
@MEHRAN BASHIR.
You can't stop your heat bate willingly either.
It's called involuntary control.
You don't control your digestion either.
There s nothing supernatural in it.
If everything needs a cause, god also needs one. Otherwise he's commiting a fallacy of special pleading.
@Jason Wijaya
Correct. God is no thing.
Nothing.
That’s exactly why NO serious argument for God’s existence (like Aristotle’s or Aquinas’) makes the claim that “everything has a cause”
@@julioalonzo1383
Aristotle’s or Aquinas’ arguments are rather lame too though.
@@lewis72 have you read any of them? With which particular part would you be in disagreement with?
@@julioalonzo1383
Of course I’ve read them, I wouldn’t have commented otherwise.
The prepositions are false.
The free will argument is amusing since countless times throughout the Bible people are punished for acting on this free will.
Dont forget that god also knew you would sin that specific sin the moment he gave free will
So not only does he punish you for what you did
He put in place the framework for you to do so
If God is omniscient, then the future is set and there is no free will.
If the future is not set in stone, then God is not omniscient.
If God is omnipotent, he could do anything he wanted instantly without any effort.
If God took 6 days to create the world, plus all life and then had to rest on the 7th, then he is not omnipotent.
@@maythesciencebewithyou basically a walking contridiction
Theists just dont seem to get it . This story was made thousands of years ago before people understood the finer workongs of story telling 😂
Yeah, don't free will
Free Tibet like right now
I'll show myself out
@@howmuchbeforechamp ......noooooo
You look more & more like *Shaggy from Scooby-Doo* with each video
Zoinks!
Why is it that such juvenile comments appear on such a nuanced channel? The man is offering arguments against the existence of god, something that philosophers have debated for millennia and you make a jibe about scooby-do lol.
@@Pete_1986 I think the comment was all in good humor. Not intended as a jab at Steve.
Christianity would have gotten away with it, if it wasn't for this meddling kid.
@@bobnub8194 oh i understand it was meant in good humour. But that's just my point, humour is often the only thing to be found in the comments section of this channel That or a sea of heads nodding in agreement with everything Steve says. Pity it doesn't seem to be the place for any nuanced debate on the actual content of the videos.
I like how you always stay calm no matter what is the level of idiocy displayed by the opposition, we need more people like you!
I agree :D
Yes it is a style that makes it so much more compelling. The use of sarcasm and jokes also adds to the presentation and style too without crossing lines or becoming rhetoric driven or overly emotional. You have assembled a great balance that makes it hard to dismiss.
I also like that while you often attack the vulnerabilities and open flaws of religious thinking, you do not limit your video's to exclusively atheistic content. I actually prefer the videos about other irrational beliefs and feel that this makes you so much more than just some guy who doesn't believe in a god. It shows the reality is, you are more well rounded and consistently debunk subjective belief systems in general, and that this is the point. You do not come off as hung up on God alone but instead come off as someone who has a problem with broken thinking based on an inability to see the situation clearly. That is much more difficult to dismiss or be offended by.
As a former atheist, this entire video is capitalizing on the majorities ignorance to pursue the knowledge for themselves and instead he focuses on the weak links. Why not challenge one of plenty of scientists from MIT who believe in intelligent design? Even atheist Richard Dawkins has recently admitted to believing in intelligent design, why not challenge him? Ain’t it weird that he leaves out that Charles Darwin clearly stated that he was NOT an atheist! He’s simply capitalizing on people ignorance.
@@Antonio.R.O.C. thank you,these atheists will always find a way to question every even though what they beleive in poses way more questions
Why are you atheist so rude when you talk about theists,you guys think you are being smart but in reality you are just being ignorant
Socrates said: follow argumentS wherever THEY lead.
Apologists: follow THE argument that leads to the conclusion I want to assert.
Apologists: Start with my conclusion and railroad the arguments to get there no matter how ridiculous the path might be. (IOW, they never "follow" the arguments, they drive them toward their chosen destination, which is another way of phrasing what you said)
This makes no sense. You need to learn about deductive logic a little better if you believe that this is all apologists are doing.
In a deductive argument, a valid argument doesn't necessarily result in an accurate conclusion..... but if the premises of a valid argument are true, then the conclusion is necessarily true.
An argument can be valid, but contain false premises.... in this case the conclusion isn't necessarily true
The bottom line is that you need to test the truth of the premises in order to determine if an argument is both valid and true.
Eg.
1. All dogs have hats
2. Harry is a dog
3. Therefore Harry has a hat.
This would be an example of a valid argument, but as we know that not all dogs have hats, we have insufficient information to conclude if Harry indeed has a hat.
However if the argument was
1. All dogs are mammals
2. Harry is a dog
3. Therefore Harry is a mammal
This would be an example of a valid argument by which the premises are true, resulting in the conclusion being necessarily true.
Therefore, if an apologist presents a valid argument, and the premises are accurate- the conclusion must necessarily be accurate.
I hope this helps
@Jinn Genie ummm... ok, William Lane Craig's defence of the Kalam Cosmological Argument seems to do a pretty good job of this.
There's a few steps to the argument, but it's sound. Rather than breaking the argument down for you (I suggest studying his defence of it slowly and carefully in your own time) , I'll just explain how it works...
His argument establishes that the universe had a cause, examines deductively the necessary properties of the cause, and provides a deductive interpretation of all of this to conclude that the cause must be intelligent and personal.
@Jinn Genie "the universe has a cause" is a premises that depends on the universe beginning to exist. This premise is supported by both the big bang theory and by string theory, which are theories typically championed by atheists.... assuming either are correct, the universe has a beginning.
The rest of what you say about Craig is ad hominem, which is foolishly something you persist in using time and time again.
@Jinn Genie then the premise you're disputing is his first premise, not the second premise.
So your objection is that you aren't convinced that anything which begins to exist has a cause for it's existence.
There are 4 types of causes. Material, formal, final, and efficient.
In this occasion we are discussing something called "efficient causation"' which is an antecedent condition by which something is brought about... by necessity, if something begins to exist there must be something antecedent behind it... if things could just pop into existence uncaused, then why don't we ever see random things manifest out of nowhere at random?
Are you really trying to rest your coat on something that really came into existence being entirely uncaused? That doesn't make sense.
It would make sense to say that there is no material cause for material initially existing... but to assume no efficient cause at all is entirely irrational. As Craig puts it "that's worse than magic, because with magic you at least have the magician to pull the rabbit out of the hat - and the hat, too."
And I disagree that Craig has no understanding of science. He doesn't just use deductive arguments, but also inductive arguments (which is the form of argumentation scientific theory is built on) - and he inductively argues from scientific observations at times, too - which is how the scientific method is conducted. It isn't just the collecting and presenting of data, but also a rationalised interpretation of data.
Even the scientists who argue that the universe "came from nothing" acknowledge that by "nothing", they actually mean "nothing physical", and that an efficient cause still exists.
The Big Bang Theory, and String Theory are indeed theories supported by scientists - yet as I previously evidenced, 51% of scientists have some kind of theistic belief... you were mistaken the first time you made the claim that most scientists (around 80%) are atheists, but after I shared the research - you're just being dishonest by making this claim.
And ad hominem is a common sign someone is experiencing cognitive dissonance... so how do you think you're coming across right now?
This guy's accent is literally the epitome of American theistic ignorance. Literally can't take him seriously with a voice like that.
Edit: And the random pauses and emphasis he does while speaking is straight up annoying. It makes him sound disingenuous to me, not conversational.
He try to sound like an autority "ear my authority tone, I'M authority so you should listen to me and believe my every word".
I get a used car salesman vibe from his voice
I love this guy's accent! I wouldn't want to live in a world where we all speak the same
Watch him debate Dan Barker, he gets destroyed.
The look of defeat on his face at the end of it is something I'll never forget.
@@owenmcateer721
Saying his accent is bad =/= we should all sound the same.
Massive leap there.
Kyle's use of the word "truism" makes my skin crawl.
lol me too
his use of almost every keyword was laced with heavy irony.
Damn bro a word hurt you how i thought words were just words
Being well into my 50s every morning when I wake and get up my body easily debunks any argument of "intelligent" design.
Oof, that hurt my back emotionally xD
if nothing can create something then it should be very easy for scientists to create something from something cause matter already axists
@@joshferns7114 You mean, like
- Polymers ("plastic) from monomeres?
- Iron from Iron oxide? (as all other metals reduced from their oxides)
- Ceramics from metals ("Eloxal")?
- gasoline from crude oil?
- Hydrogen from natural gas?
- Heavy water from water?
Or did you have anything special in mind?
@@qwertzundefinedapfel3830 im talking about a completely new item
@@joshferns7114 Almost all polymers are "completely new items".
You know what really grinds my gears-es? "Evidences"
When you hear a Creationist using the word "evidences" you know they have no clue on the subject they are talking about.
@@blackice9088then what are you debunking?
I didn't know you could debunk nothing
A singularity is a point in mathematics and what physics took from mathematics where a formula stops giving out useful results. Like going to infinnite and such.
It is not a definition of a type of object (like a black hole, although the center of a Black hole CAN be described as a singularity, but only cause we do not truly understand what happens there, not cause the term Singularity explains anything about it)
Calling anything a singularity means "we cannot tell you what rules are valid for this", it does not mean "we can determine this to be the origin of it" or "this is what needs to happen for it to come to be". IoW Kyle Butt lied his family name off.
I'm a ninth grader who does astrobiology and yeah I saw that mistake as he said it. Bro, I physically face-palmed. Yeah it isn't the main point but just a simple point, that can be corrected with a simple search on google, but no, he didn't even get that right. pfft.
@@hafsahy530 It's not that he doesn't want to get it right. He actively wants to mislead his audience. 90% of his argument seems to be strawmanning
@@tedferkin Yeah i get that - i was just saying that it is a simple fact that not too many people know and he is purposefully doing. It is like one of my biggest pet peeves. When people purposefully mislead.
Oh by the way, if you fell into a black hole, you wouldn’t reach the singularity at a place, you’d reach it at a time. Time and space flip rules inside black holes, creating that effect.
" 'Evidences' that gawd is real" Oh boy, we're off to a good start already.
You are evidence creature
@@FactPlace-ip5ly based on what?
i noticed that too, evidences, wow.
Theists often claim that the universe is fine tuned for life and forget to mention the majority of the observable universe is incredibly hostile to life, and even on earth, 99% of all species have gone extinct.
Yeah, some design.
@Joel Jino 99% of all species that once existed since life began are now extinct, genius.
The 1% that are alive today makes up for the current animal kingdom.
Crack up a biology or zoology book once in a while.
(Either my sarcasm was too subtle or the very concept just stopped existing in the past hour)
Proof 1: The law of cause and effect proves god exists
Refute: Yet somehow it convieniently doesn't apply to him in any way shape or form
Proof 2: complex design requires a complex designer, look at the birds and the trees
Refute: and the cancer, the diseases, the parasites, birth defects... I'm sorry do you want me to keep going?
Proof 3: life doesn't come from non living things
Refute: ignoring abiogenesis for a minute I guess bacteria just stopped existing then
Proof 4: morals demand a teacher
Refute: True but that teacher doesn't necessarily have to be god himself. It could be your parents, your siblings, or even your children. Just because there is a teacher of such things doesn't mean it is obviously this one specific thing doing the teaching
Proof 5: Free will exists
Refute: I'd like to introduce to nueroscience just in case you happened to forget about that
Proof 6: Human Reasoning
Refute: going to back to number 5, again, we have the biological capability of doing these things on our own thanks to something called the brain.
But of course I forget, christians are the ones who say rely on a deity who takes two years to answer a question versus a search engine that can give you millions of results in under a second
BeCAUse He iS ETErnaL
Replying to your response to the first argument: the kalam cosmological argument is consistent and give a first cause argument without this „inconvenience“
@@lendrestapas2505 debunked
@@ScottDCS debunk it for me
It's also funny watching Christians like Kyle try to define material vs immaterial and the lore of both like they're reading a rulebook. The very state of existing as a thing makes it material. If you don't have an effect on the world you don't exist. If you're immaterial you by definition can't be material. Kyle seems to think that immaterial has special properties that make it able to be material at the same time but also not having the negative consequences of being material? It's an unfalsifiable mess.
I am now convinced that I don't exist
Goodness gracious
"something can not come from nothing"
But somehow...an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent creator can?
Also if this guy was born a buddhist...he'd be doing buddhist videos on YT.
and if he's muslim, he'd be like the red queen from alice in wonderland "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!"
@@hakureikura9052 and traveled to France.
Who ever said there was ever nothing to begin with?
@@skollybob creationist.
Read the bible.
@@sir.raphimrevelator8644 read it, preffered lord of the rings tbh 👍
I don't think that "Does god exist?" is a profound question. I think it's a silly question, like asking, "do finnelnerps exist?" I literally just made that up and it would be absurd to the nth degree for me to say, "well, you can't prove they don't exist" now just because I've introduced them into the conversation.
This is what both Theists and Extheists do. They say something primitive man made up could possibly exist because the word exists. That's not how things work. I'm tired of this argument already. Gods are as made up as finnelnerps!
Is this a repost? or are these such tired recycled "proofs" that it just feels that way
Yeah i get you those arguments are really getting old they should really evolve even if its just a micro bit
@@labrat585 Ironically most of the people making these arguments don't believe in evolution... so their _arguments_ are unlikely to evolve.
#joking
@@leyrua but they do believe in breathing something into existence they should breath a new argument into existence. Oh wait thats why all of they’re arguments are the same it has a common designer
@@labrat585 an _unchanging_ (timeless) designer, no less.
@@leyrua thats why the argument seems so perfect that no one can debunk it . oh wait
When Steven said "You're making things up again" my mind immediately jumped to Book of Mormom
Yeah, I had to sing a bit replacing Arnold with Kyle.
Edward... You have a God regsrdles of where you jump to
"You're making things up again, aren't you Kyle?" If only Kyle's poor mother had ever said this to him when he was a child XD
God made you up as his creature. Now go find him.
@Eshita Shukla you are creature. Who thumbs up their own comments you sociopath
@Eshita Shukla first you're a creature. You have and require a God and he is an actual being as real as you are. He creatured you.
@@FactPlace-ip5ly created is the word. Also.... Proved by evolution , no life doesn't require a god or creator at that .
Life can appear and disappear if given required environment and time . It is just that .
We are a life form that evolved into what we are . Pretty far from perfect biologically speaking which also would mean that if god existed he would be one shitty made being .
But god doesn't exist . I visited few branches of Christian church , Islam and others.... Even took part in tribal rituals . All of those were tests and trials i used to try finding truth , and truth i found was that religion is just a big old lie made up by men for control over men in a specific way....
So nope , i do not require god to live , god doesn't exist and humans are pretty much just another branch of primate evolution , just a bit more successful than any other before us , but honestly it could have happened to other animals too , we are just most adapted species yet to exist .
People are not perfect, but if anyone made wrong, this doesn't negate the fact that God exists.
When I hear a creationist saying "evidences" instead of "evidence" my eyes roll, and I think "here we go again!"
Every subatomic particle in your body is an evidence for God's creation
Show me in the bible where it mentions this...
@@blackice9088 I’m pretty sure if he gives a answer, it’s going to be some type or form of... “It’s true because the Bible says so.”
@PA Outdoorsman My problem with people’s religion is when those people apply their severely lacking in proof of reality beliefs that are actually morally lacking (just read the WHOLE Bible to learn “God’s” immoralities) , into everyone else’s verifiable reality. Don’t know if your religious yourself but everything you experience today from technology, medicine and secular ethics comes from real people recognizing the one real world we live in and working to make this a better place for us as a society.... instead of relying on a unverifiable imaginary god and afterlife world from people who were more ignorant of the real physical world than any non-handicapped person in today’s society. I could go on and on but luckily with steady generations of continuing education, every active religion is slowly trending into histories bookshelf of mythology.
@@blackice9088 Try reading Genesis, it's pretty clear there. If you don't agree with it, that's absolutely fine. Just give me a "reasonable" explanation of where all the atoms came from.
6 proofs? If he really thought he had proof, he’d only need one.
The only proof they need is to get God to come down and show itself.
And I bet you, if there is an all powerful being out there and it actually descends to earth, alot of religious won't believe that it is their allpowerful god, but some lower being.
Especially, when that "god" tells them all their beliefs are bullshit and he's the actual most powerful being in the universe and gives a rats ass about them. Even if that "god" turned out to be the actual inspiration for all the myths. Even if that "god" turned out to be the guy who trolled Moses. The religious would not be able to accept it and claim that there true God exists.
@@maythesciencebewithyou Eyup and I bet good money that if Jesus did return like the religious types keep claiming he will, they wouldnt believe him. He'd probably get thrown in the loony bin, if people even bothered listening to him at all.
@@marcusreading3783 AN ALLAH
@@maythesciencebewithyou AN ALLAH
@@maythesciencebewithyou DONT FORGET NORSE GODS
Not being racist, but it makes sense that he has a Southern accent
it adds to the silliness of the arguments
@@luckyluckydog123 Indeed
Eureka, an instance of actual racism.
As someone from Texas, you’re very right lol that was my first thought
Well except people living in the south are not a “race”. Perhaps bigot would be a more appropriate term .
A cave could be a building and didn't need a builder. It needed the properties of water to be formed
I was rewatching it just to refresh my memory about the arguments and found an interesting twist - an argument in the Sixth Proof disproves the Fourth Proof. Our capability of reasoning in the abstract shows we could, in fact, view everything (including morality) from an objective point of view, thus giving humanity the ability to develop an objectively moral framework and rules.👩🎓👨🎓
Can you explain this idea bit more in depth? Because it kind of sounds like you're saying we could just change our definition of objectivity, thus somehow making something objective?
Having a mathematics background and seeing the title, my first thought was 'If they are valid proofs, then one would suffice'. If you need 6, they probably aren't proofs in the mathematical sense.
Mathematical proofs dont exist outside of mathematics so of course he wouldn't have a mathematical proof.
Also there's a book with 100 proofs for pythagoras theorem. Doesnt mean they are bad. Just that there are many ways to prove something that is correct.
That said this guy has nothing of value to come with.
Why do you think you can disprove God with math? Math actually makes a case for God.
What makes an even greater case is you being an actual creature. I suggest you drop your atheism it is an ignorance
@@FactPlace-ip5ly oh show your mathematical case for god.
@@gulgaffel obviously there is none other than one equals life and zero equals no life. You exist in life. You are a creature. You require and have a God. Get real
@@FactPlace-ip5ly wow that's dissapointing it has nothing to do with maths.
I'm not even sure it's an argument.
You claim life requires a god without any proof or argument as to why.
the funny thing about free will is you can't have free will and an all knowing being simultaneously.
How does God knowing everything deprive humans of their free will?
You are assuming the only way he could see your future is by planning it out for you.
@@Sam-fq5qu if I know exactly what you are going to do then do you actually have free will to do what you want? For example, if I know what you are going to eat for breakfast can you choose to eat something different? If you can't then how is it free will? If you can then I actually didn't know. I wouldn't need to plan it out to strip you of the free will. You'd have the illusion of choice but it wouldn't be actual choice.
@D'Chaun Palu if God knows you are going to choose pancakes then you didn't really have a choice. You were going to eat pancakes no matter what. God wouldn't have to force you to do it. It's the fact that the outcome was you eating pancakes was already set in time. There was nothing you could do to change it. Now if you could choose the eggs and did then that means God didn't know what you were going to choose. You can't have free will and an all knowing being. They're mutually exclusive. You can have the illusion of free will even if you can't choose the eggs. Since we don't know what's going to happen before hand it can appear like we had a choice. I'm not saying we don't have free will but I am saying if an all knowing being existed it would guarantee we didn't have free will.
@D'Chaun Palu God being outside of time doesn't solve it. Fundamentally you can't have both. For god to know what you are going to have for breakfast tomorrow would mean you don't have a choice in what you are going to have. As in you can't choose something other that what god knows you are going to have. If you could choose something else then that means god didn't know. God doesn't have to force you to have that specific thing for breakfast.
If I had a machine that was able to show me everything you're going to do tomorrow can you really say you have any freewill in what you do tomorrow?
@D'Chaun Palu that's not how it works. You seem to think I'm arguing against God. The fact i would know what you were going to do means you don't have the choice to do something else. This isn't difficult logic.
I love how all arguments for god are incredibly flawed, vague, and never properly address the issue. Almost like there is not one hmmm.....
You are Gods argument creature. Go find him
@@FactPlace-ip5ly You can't find what dosen't exist.
What issue are you talking about? Your comment smells like it just came out of your behind.
@@jakenguyen2584 The issue of no evidence
If the entire universe appears designed, then there is nothing that could appear undesigned, and therefore how would we even understand the difference between something that is designed or not designed?
Thanks, RR. Another calm, rational slam-dunk debunking. It was nice seeing this one. I love you, brother!
I am a theoretical biologist who also believes in God. I enjoyed this video, but I would like to make some remarks.
You and the guy in the video are both coming from very similar viewpoint, which (from my limited knowledge of modern philosophy) comes from the anglophone sphere which enjoys analytical philosophy. The anglo-american world applies entirely different reasoning about ideas than we, who are descendants of the "continental" streamline of philosophy, as we are the heirs of Husserl, Heidegger, Bergson and others, who have different way of reasoning and values. it seems to me that you guys (and other prominent figures in the far-western atheism/theism debate, like Lennox, Dawkins, Lawrence, going back to Russel, Paley etc.) operate in a very narrow framework which, in my honest opinion, lacks imagination. You think of yourselves as diametrically opposite, but it seems to me you really are not.
I love btw how Darwin is basically your prophet and Origin of species is your divinely inspired Book of the Law.
Let me give you some examples:
1) you both apply weird logic to your "rational" arguments. You "debunk" his third "proof" (from design) by appealing to nasty things in nature. i can honestly tell you that as a biologist there is no thing more interesting and life-promoting than parasitism. There are theories which say that parasitism is one of the main driving forces of evolution. When you study the relationships between the parasite and the host, an entire world of BEAUTY opens up to you, you see both organisms striving, fighting, even cooperating at times... I can honestly tell you that honest study of biology (and I would say that deep study of anything does that) shows you how nothing is inherently disgusting, evil or nasty. And this is what I found interesting about your "debunking", you completely shifted your position from a "rationality rules" to "my human feelings rule", since you just "feel" that some forms of parasitism or cancer are "just not right". But I can really easily imagine how a good God brings forth a world such as ours. You just need the eyes to see it, which doesn't (contrary to what someone might think) involve self-deception, but study!
2) Narrow idea of God. You and the guy in the video are exactly the same by virtue of utilizing the same primitive view of God. What if God is what you call "laws of nature"? What if God is an abstract category as Being itself? What if God is the innermost basis of your subjectivity? What if God is the Entirety of all that exists? What if God is ones conscience? What if God is my t-shirt? What if money is my God? What if God is found solely in 'the story' of Israel? What if God is only in stories? What if the Sun, the Moon, sky or the Earth is God? But the problem is that you both claim to KNOW who or what God is and that is irritating, since you both have very primitive and child-like idea of God as some sort of mental/ethereal skydaddy. You mock believers for believing in a skydaddy, but then you come down to their level and don't have the imagination for other possibilities. Aquinas' Summa shouldn't be read because of his five ways to win arguments, but to get the grasp of what he actually means by God!
But not to critique only you, the video guy also said a lot of nonsense:, I am always irritated by these so called "rational proofs" presented in this cocky "gotcha atheists" manner, but I am also irritated by your "gotcha theists" cocky manners, since there is a world of possibilities that you aren't exploring and yet you have the gut to say what is or isn't true
My lazy ass doesn't want to read all that so ima just day 'Nuh Uh'
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Unrelated, but i love his intro "hello my fellow apes"
Like, only the most uneducated of peoples would get offended by that
Thanks for saying that! Darwin's theory.... remains a theory :)
@@BestOfAmazingVideos a scientific theory
@@yeetman4953 still just a theory. Not s fact
@@BestOfAmazingVideos en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
@@BestOfAmazingVideos gravity is also a theory
The severity of a southern ‘twang’, is in direct proportion to how devout that southerner is...
How are we supposed to overcome this kind of prejudice when it is so consistently accurate
I am a Southern man, highly educated and atheist. To quote a popular song "I'll speak my Southern English just as natural as I please".
@@lhurst9550 you have a God regardless of your accent or location. You're a creature and God willed you right where you are.
@@FactPlace-ip5ly Just because you wish it so, does not make it so.
1:57 Every landslide begins from a handful of pebbles.
A landslide has something called potential energy, something your host was unable to grasp due to his apparent ignorance.
"if X then Y, so god" First, they never prove X. Then, why does Y mean god?
You are x now go find your God..
Everything we can observe, sense and measure is a machine (e.g. subatomic particles, atoms, molecules,...etc.) these machines are designed, manufactured and operated under strict set of physical laws. This means there must be an external force that is not affected by these physical laws who must have designed, manufactured and operated them.
@@mazen1010 False analogy fallacy,,again,,
@@imme6372 *Machine* a piece of equipment with moving parts that uses power to do a particular job [Cambridge Dictionary]
Funny story, a theist once told me I could literally harm god by talking bad about him and saying I don’t believe. Absolutely ridiculous
shaggy is back, also dude do videos on Islamic apologetics concerning with gods existence , your analysis are epic
8:22 When we realized shit hurt and that we don't want other people to feel what we felt. When we realized we could die, when we felt empathy for the first time...
I forgot about this channel so glad it popped up in my recommended. These videos are awesome I applaud your research and debunking of these stupid "definitions".
Welcome back, Stan!
@@tonybanks1035 That’s not very “Christ-like” of you sir.
@@tonybanks1035 likely* audience.* and you can remove the "to be" part as well.
@@tonybanks1035 Understandable, I suggest using grammarly I speak three languages and I tend to mix one or two words together or use a word from a language, I am not supposed to be speaking in and grammarly has helped alot to fix this.
@@tonybanks1035I firmly believe it "dumbs down the average not the medium", essentially it may make alot of people have to put less effort in things, but it can also help fix the errors of people who put effort in and keep those same people learning on how what they did wrong can be fixed or better worded. Allowing you to progress better then you would have otherwise in a short amount of time.
"When someone is fooled & indoctrinated to consider an invisible imaginary God or a glorified religious figure or a man-made book sacred & pray to, you'll find dogma, motivated ignorance & mental acrobats trying to defend the sacredness."
The idea that morale is objective is absolutely horrifying. I cant believe that some ppl think that way.
oh yeah, let's just mass murder a 100 men and call it "solving overpopulation "
that's good morals
@Smartstoreweb Smartstoreweb Clearly you have never heard the concept of *Sarcasm*
@Smartstoreweb Smartstoreweb The definition of sarcasm is "the use of irony to mock or convey contempt"
What this person said is clearly sarcasm
How many atrocities have been committed in the name of doing the right thing?
@@SamuelBlack84 exactly. Noone gets up in the morning and is like: "today i wanna be as evil as possible."
I couldn't listen anymore after proof 3 - they're all just meaningless question begging. "Design requires a designer" - this statement is true (and redundant) but you have failed to demonstrate that the universe has been designed - you can't assume that to prove your conclusion unless you can back it up. And "appears to be designed" is not sufficient - a stain on a wall that looks like a face might "appear to be designed" but may better be explained (or may be known) to be caused by natural phenomena. Same principle applies with the universe.
It's so very telling that apologists have to lie to try and convince themselves that they're telling the truth.........
The existence of God can not be negated by some word gymnastics, or even the dishonesty of one person. The existence of God is the only rational conclusion.
@@mazen1010 Hello. In the case where you cannot prove either way, the least rational thing to do is jump to a conclusion that begs a bigger question than it answers. Take care mate.
@@colinriches1519 My dear friend, I gave rational response to each claim in this video. Please read and we can discuss any point you like
1- Our observations tell us that everything we see is a result of an earlier manufacturing process.
2- The design that we see comes from the fact that if we dissemble any created machine (an atom, a molecule, a living cell, a living creature, a planet, a solar system, a galaxy...) we find that it's disassembly and reassembly requires strict processes, which follow strict physical laws. Now, we are not saying that the universe and our bodies were designed to be perfect and last for eternity, but this doesn't negate the fact that everything we can observe and measure requires manufacturing according to laws and specifications, and thus, are designed. Otherwise, everything can be manufactured by self-organizing self-assembly reactions.
3- As for the life emerging from non-living elements, we have no information and no understanding of how it happens and what are the manufacturing processes that are done to bring anything that is living. Now, we know that earth didn't have life at its early days, so for that we say that life was created by an invisible external force.
4- As for the moral case, it exists only because we define ourselves as higher than animal species that is connected to higher than life force, but otherwise, humans will be no different than any other biological creatures who follow the food chain laws.
5- Free will is a simulated feeling that God has implanted in us.
6- Natural selection doesn't give a reasoning process, this is just nature worshiping.
May peace be upon you
@@mazen1010 Hello friend. I see what you mean with your first 3 points. Modern science and our understanding of the universe is limited by many factors. If I'm right in guessing that you are claiming God must have created everything because we have no other provable explanation? Personally I think it's jumping to a conclusion that cannot be backed by any evidence outside religion. I am more than willing to admit that I can't be sure on the origins of life but than nobody can really. Let's say you're right and there is a good and he created everything. That would mean he is entirely responsible for the multitudes of suffering and the whole situation really. I could not respect an all powerful being that would create us with inbuilt knowledge/instincts and then hide so brilliantly while threatening eternal punishment for not finding him. I have no instinct that tells me there's a good, but I can see how rich and powerful religious leaders become. Therein is the crux of religion. Peace to you.
@@mazen1010 Point 4 the moral case is one I find strange. Morality is not fully subjective or fully objective as the clergy would have people believe, it's very manipulative language. Morality is not something beyond our understanding, in fact it's very simple. It's based on the outcomes of your intentions filtered by your awareness. My moral compass works like this: do not intentionally cause harm to any other living being. Some of our actions cause harm without us knowing, for this we cannot be held responsible. But the actions people take to intentionally cause harm are morally wrong. Now compare that with eternal punishment for a 'crime' that doesn't harm anyone. It's safe to say that all versions of 'divine' morality are disgusting. Peace to you friend.
If god is omniscient. Then why bother praying. It is an act of pure selfishness when you ask god to change his plans to suit you. Its like Darth Vader's actor asking George Lucas " Can I say Luke....I am your transgender Aunty..". Its dumb.
We don’t pray to change Gods will to give us what we want, we pray to know what Gods will is for our lives. If God is omniscient He probably knows what’s best for your life... right?
@@TheprophetJeremiah25 Clearly yall been praying for forgiveness and to save others. Certainly selfish. God certainly doesn't know what's best for your lofe either. Getting raped, molested, tortured, murdered aren't the best or god isn't good of a god as people claim
Not to mention prayer is the same thing as telling God he’s wrong. I bet God likes being told he’s wrong. He probably even rewards being told he’s wrong.
I’m crippled. Which means arrogant motherfuckers often go out of their way to tell me they will let God know that God is wrong. On my behalf. And they think I’m supposed to appreciate it.
Prayer is not needed by God, it is just one way to rank the free-willed creatures.
Great point! Just live and accept .
Nothing in nature looks designed.
Exactly what I was thinking. Land just looks like a whole random clump and the things which live on it have clear, evolutionary routes
What about Russell's teapot?
@@owenmcateer721 Does it exist?
@@wachyfanning yes! I have personal experience (the teapot makes me Earl Grey in my dreams) and faith that it does!!
@@owenmcateer721 now there's a religion I can get behind. Can you combine this with the Holiest of Noodles, the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I have some ideas 💡
When I meet someone like that religious person, I usually just smile and laugh. I should know better. I wrote something then thought, nope, not worth the effort, not playing.
Atheism is one form of nature worshiping religions.
more like you don't really understand your belief and unable to form an argument. Nice try though :)
I never miss an opportunity to butt heads with someone 😄
Once again another thoroughly dishonest, fallacious and overtly biased Christian who only demonstrate his evidential burden failures and unsound arguments.
@@philkesler The evidence is in the video, and the comment you replied to is the logical conclusion of said video.
@@timmytohns5479 You took the words out of my mouth :)
Anyway @Phil Kesler if you're a Christian can you demonstrate your supposed god exists, or are you like every other theist who has failed in their burden?
@@MichaelMeridius He is a copypaster just ignore him
@@philkesler I do have evidence that Byron Stier is right and that we shouldn’t bother with arguing a bot
@@philkesler he accused you of being a copy-poster and you reply by pasting the same comment three times.
The mere fact that creationists rely on misrepresentation, misunderstanding, and deceit to make their point proves they have no point to make.
The mere fact you are e creature proves you have a God.
@Copy Cat you are real. Creature stop being a sociopath
The atheist are no better by claiming that nature is the creator.
The idea that everything just appeared out of thin air like a magical genie is the level of thinking a child has
And, even if it were true, it also includes all the bad things
Typhoid, cancer in children, nazi death camps
It’s beyond me how can someone watch that guy for a whole video, you’re really brave my friend
I love how every single "proof" this guy offers for a god is just him asserting bullshit. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, assertion of bullshit is a common tactic for apologists, after all, but it still gives me a good laugh.
The only plausible argument for a God would be the existence of Logic. But then that immediately counters any other arguments for God.
What would the argument with logic be?
@@applicableapple3991 Logic is such a powerful tool for dismantling Religious Fallacies that It must be a gift from the God's.
@@247tubefan I agree, but what I meant was, how would the existence of logic be an argument for God. It's man made, it's our way of explaining how us humans think
@@applicableapple3991 It's a facetious statement. A bit of mental clickbait.
Logic is just a step up from instinct to help us survive better
What “ order “ 😮
Universe is not ordered !
What “ design “?
😂😂😂
Our universe is chaotic .
Anomalies!
😮
I appreciate how you keep talking about parasites. I too keep thinking about those when people speak about the beauty of nature.
Why, oh, why can't these people stay in their own lane?
It is almost painful to watch the feeble attempts to use "science" to justify their imaginary friends.
Keep up the good work.
Because if you knew something to be absolutely true wouldn’t you tell people about it?... Robert you are gonna die some day just like the rest of us and I know you have a feeling that there is something after death. So I’ll tell you this if you reject God in this life he will grant you your wishes in the next. God made a way that you may have enteral life through Jesus! “Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14:6. Put your faith and trust in Jesus and you be saved.
“We reason on a regular basis”
What do you mean “we”? 🤔
I was about to comment the same thing
Who decided that the most profound question is "Does God exist?"?
Exactly what i was thinking🥴
Humanity as a whole did. You atheists like to break apart from the whole as if you are some special creature that can exist as Gods creature without having a God. Unfortunately you can't you have one and always will.
@@FactPlace-ip5ly that's assuming there is a god...
@@GutsEnthusiast there is one assuming you are a creature. You cannot be a creature without one unfortunately. Even lucifer has a God he just denies him remember. 😂
@@FactPlace-ip5ly must be fun making claims without proof
"You're making things up again, Carl"
God: "Though shalt not lie."
Creationist: "But, but, but, I wuz jus 'splainin, Your Honor."
Fact: you are a creature you have and require a God
Atheist: but but I don't want a God I want to believe I was conjured up as a talking creature by a dumb unaware magicaly existing universe forming chemical daddy.
@@FactPlace-ip5ly Fact: That's not a fact, that's your delusion.
Theist: But I don't want to accept reality!
Fact.Place fact: the idiocy and the sass of that comment is stronger than god
@@FactPlace-ip5ly implying thats remotely true
Ok hold up who said thou shalt not die, i'm sorry i may have hallucinations
What word did you write? Could you write it again?
Love the idea of a “non stamp collecting explanation “, haha
Watch nonstampcollector
God who is so loving that he gave man only one planet and put the Asteroid Belt within close range of it just to keep us on our toes.
All his arguments are basically , if you assume my claim is true then it proves my claim is true.
Amazing how they simply make up scientific laws
There is no way that God can be proved with a southern US accent
lol
Lmao
I was born and raised in an extreme Christian cult. I never had the chance to think beyond, “How’d the universe come about...God? Ok! Done!” I finally escaped and I’m in a place of true freedom to explore everything. I guess right now I’d say I’m an agnostic atheist but maybe that label will change, maybe I don’t want a label.
But videos like this REALLY assist me in attempting to deprogram my brain and think for myself. Thank you for making it. It genuinely had a positive effect on someone who needed it, I just wanted you to know that :)
Congratulations on getting away! I'm an existential Nihilist & Atheist!
The more you get away from religion the more depressed you get so keep it up atheist and make the world a depressing place with pretty much no reason to live:) Europeans are dying out because they’re becoming more atheist and Islam is taking over in Europe
@@johntankersley7833 source ?
“How’d the universe come about...God? Ok! Done!” yeah...
but dont you remenber they didn't just saw the earth and the sky and concluded "there is a god!".
mabye its because this so called "God" that you deny gave them scripture. and miracles.
read the Bible
read the Dhammapada
read the Torah
read the Daodejing
read the Bhagavad Gita
read the Quran, where it all leads. (do your own research if you're not convinced yet, you'll see...)
"then come back to me, indeed death is very near.
if you are aware of the end, why not think about it more often?
does it scare you?
does it really?
even if it is just a possibility, Hell, might just be real.
Is also found in all religions as well as Paradise... hmm... weird coincidence huh?
and if you dont change now,
you shall see it,
with your very own eyes.
soon..."
*ITS NOT TOO LATE TO TURN BACK !!*
I'm being stereotypical here but when I recognized that Texas accent I knew what I was looking forward to haha
this guy straight out of darkmatter2525's joky cartoons
You are straight out of God's Book of life creature
Honestly I considered myself agnostic but after this video I may be straight up atheist... Thanks for such well researched and compelling arguments!
Really??😄😄 ok blind sheep
@@leemajor5003 bro please delete ur account then find a friend to talk to
@@zavenpapyan426 how long did it take you to think of that one? You want a cookie 🍪
@@zavenpapyan426 thoughtless pigeon
@@leemajor5003 your the sheep, you believe in supernatural engineers and fairy tales written by old men lol
Ex-muslim here, sending this video to my cousins
When you look at the world, which for the most part has been millions of years of mass extinctions combined with giant insects and monstrous reptiles eating each other alive, how can you not believe in an intelligent loving designer?
Really? thats the world you know and see?
Yes loving designer causing mass extinction of his creations, so loving
@@TheRealSpicySucc Also caused a mass explosion of his creations too then, I guess, right?
@Eshita Shukla Rimky pointed out that the creator caused a mass extinction, I pointed out he also caused a mass creation of his creatures then also,
@@mikek4040 I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not
Since my so-called delusions about Christ and God I have definitely become more loving less critical I love others more caring less deceitful I definitely began to have empathy for others.... how can anyone possibly say that this is a negative thing
your videos are great, I always had a hard time putting it into words about how I feel But you've thought me a lot
When I turned 6, I gave up my christian faith... It just made no sense. There is no god, there are simpler explications... and I figured this out at 6.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness" - Therefore I am atheist.
Ok. That was poignant, engaging, and funny. I'm stealing it and claiming it as my own. 😉
The problem is you are a creature bearing false witness that you have no God and that's not true because you are your God's creature
The problem is you assume there is a being living outside of time that created everything. Outside of time being absurd.
@@stardustchimp375 problem is you assuming you were conjured up by a dumb unaware magicaly existing universe forming chemical daddy. You have a God. And you are being. It's not odd your God is a greater one. Get over yourself you are the creature. Your God isn't like you.. it's time to grow up Svetlana. This is 2021.
@Nehemiah Scudder you aren't an imaginary creature unfortunately. You require and have an actual God. Religion has nothing to do with this life has one God creature.
Hey, from what publisher is that edition of the origin of species?, is gorgeous
it is folio society
beliving in any religion is like me believing that the superman exist
Superman exists by god if he wants? therefore your argument is invalid
It's always funny to me how they go "There isn't anything that could have caused nothing to become something, therefore my God caused nothing to become something"
Ofcourse.of it is not God then who is it?
Ofcourse.of it is not God then who is it?
@@dannahchan5314 who made god?
The “singularity”, duh!
It says so right there bibles of science. How could anyone “not” believe it.
@@sinenomine334 ?
All apologists engage in lying for Jesus, but Kyle's dishonesty is Donald Trump tier lying. It'd Impressive if it wasn't so despicable.
I’ve been away from atheistic content for a while, and coming back to see you doing such great and high quality work is amazing.
athough, I’ve never cringed so hard at a theistic video before...that constant definition fabrication really got me.
for when you are ex religious ... but your friends wont give up..
If biscuits melt in hot tea, and cats sometimes have ginger fur, the there MUST be a God.