I take it all back!!! please disregard my previous posts. Your video saved my life!! I installed my thermostat (as the guide book said) and it would not work. I called the 1 800 number and the support tech told me I had to buy a wire saver device from amazon to power the thermostat. After a few moments of major frustration I watched your video again and followed your advice about the c-wire connection and BOOM! I was good to go! Please accept my apology if it weren't for your video I would be in the dark with this very expensive thermostat. I would also like to say its a shame that customer support doesn't know, or simply wont tell the customer about great fix you've posted here. Any way thanks again, I really cant express how thankful I am to you for your video. You rock!!!! Peace out.
Big man, your a life saver. Ive been fighting with this silly thing forever !! Moving that Yellow wire got it working !! 👍🏻💪🏻 Update; That got me to the point where the thermostat lit up / came to life; issue then was while it would turn on the fan it would not turn on the outside unit / condenser (yes mine is a forced air ac / heat system & I realize that differs from yours) my end solution was to read the electrical schematic diagram find the + 24 v (in my units case it was brown) put the yellow back in its port & the brown hooked to the blue via the wires that run through the wall blue to the C, works perfect now :)
@@TerenceDIY Update; That got me to the point where the thermostat lit up / came to life; issue then was while it would turn on the fan it would not turn on the outside unit / condenser (yes mine is a forced air ac / heat system & I realize that differs from yours) my end solution was to read the electrical schematic diagram find the + 24 v (in my units case it was brown) put the yellow back in its port & the brown hooked to the blue via the wires that run through the wall blue to the C, works perfect now :)
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed! I had the same problem with the initial installation. My blue wire was going to Y. Moving it to C got it all working. This video saved me a lot of time, phone calls and maybe even on-site service.
I just got the T-5 thermostat and tried to install it and ran into a wall when I turned the power back on. I found your post and instructions and Now it works! Thank you very much for uploading your post and instructions on this issue, I really do appreciate you very much. LOL! I was on the phone for hours waiting for the support line.
This Works!! I never leave msgs on peoples videos, cause quite honestly I dont care to do so. but this is the only video I came across out of alllllllll the videos I watched in the span of 2 hrs that worked. Thanks Terence! your a real one. I wired my new wifi emerson sensi to my old ass 1980's configuration and boom! I was doing it!. After I was done I walked around my house with my chest poked out in front of my wife like I did it by myself. Salute!
This video is great. You are very helpful. We didn’t know why our thermostat wasn’t working and you explained it perfectly. I highly recommend it. Thank you, Mister!
Hi Trina, sorry for the delayed response. I have just finished my film school course, but now I'm back! I am glad my video helped you. Happy New Years!
I bought a honeywell wifi, my house was built in 2009 so the ac unit isnt that old, was going to return it after the screen wouldn't turn on, thank god i found your video brotha! Y to C, C to Y worked for me!
does your thermostat have 5 wires also? I replacing mine with then new T5 as well and I couldnt get the screen to turn on. Everything is in place I got G,W,Y, R, and C. So you're saying switch the Y to C, C to Y and will work? I also have a gas furnace as well.
Hey man I really appreciate you making this video! It really helped me set it up in my new home! I’m a first time owner and I’m learning on how to do everything myself.
Terence. Thanks for sharing your solution! It worked for my set up perfectly. I tried other suggestions like adding an additional 5 the wire for the C connection and that didnt work for me. Swapping the Y connection over to the C connector worked. The device is working great now. Thanks again!
Great tutorial, my thermostat wouldn't power up. I switched my yellow wire to C and Violia, worked like a charm. Thank you for saving me troubleshooting and frustration.
Thanks so much for posting this. I was getting so angry because I had the common wire connected to the same colored wire that was "extra" from my old unit. Nonetheless, I figured out that that colored wire was going to something else. In fact, the wire I needed to connect to the common was wrapped around the wire casing that went up to my thermostat. All I needed to do was connect it with a wire nut and voila!
Thank you for this video. My bf installed this last night and insisted that something was wrong with it, because it was not coming on. We were on the phone with support for hours. After watching this video I noticed you explained that push up/down switch for 1 wire or 2. I went and set it to 1 and bam! START SET UP appeared. Now I get to gloat and showboat all day pretending that fixed it on my own. Right on man!!!
Great video! Thanks! I'm in the technical field too! I work in California for several power plants doing instrumentation and controls. Nothing is ever simple? Always, Murphy is on board to create chaos! Thank you again!
Hi Karin Joy, Sorry for the delayed reply. I am currently working on an amazing video about health that I will be uploading to my channel soon. I am glad this video was helpful to you an everyone else in the comment section. Thank you.
Thank you sir! I had the same issues you had at the beginning and then followed your video and it worked. Thank you for saving me so much time and frustration!!!
Hi Candice MacDonald, Sorry for the delayed response. For some strange reason, my comments are not coming to my email anymore. I have to check in to this. I am glad my video helped you. Thanks for watching!
Hi again. I was just wondering, and in no way trying to blame. I installed the unit Sept 28 and just 2 days ago, the AC won't turn on. A tech just came by and said the conductor needs to be replaced. I have no clue about things like this. Do you have any idea if the new thermostat could have blown the conductor? or the way I installed it? Keep in mind, the AC unit is very old. So it may just be a coincidence and was simply it's time to go lol. Any advice is appreciated....and maybe some reassurance I did nothing wrong :)
Wow you are awesome! My boyfriend tried to install this and was having trouble with it but good thing we watched your video. Thank you for your help. This video was very helpful!
Got mine connected and controlled using my Lenovo Smart Display (with Google Assistant) which is also connected to a few home minis. Works perfectly fine, keep up the good work!
Thanks so much you are awesome you saved me so much time. My dad always said to me "if you don't have enough brains to do something borrow someone else's."
I have been in Hvac all my life 2nd generation and wish there were more minorities in the field. This guy did a perfect job and I was impressed. Keep up the good work! Not all white people area a-holes.
Yoooo my man! Thank you so much! I was about to give up and take the fuckin thing back, i checked RUclips one more time and caught your video. Changed the blue and green wires to the G and Y spots and boom.
Good day. Read on if you have three wire thermostat bundling. In my case multizone hotwater heating with 8 zone valves, 3 transformers and a propane boiler (and 5 pumps). This applies to those moving from a two wire honeywell thermostat (which covers the older mercury tube type, OR the LCD display type that needed batteries to display and programme). All my wiring bundles included a third wire folded back, which we will use for the Common Wire discussed. (no fan, no cooling, no heat pump, just heat) A. The steps are as follows. a. identify which wire is going to the load side of the transformer in the boiler room (should be the wire currently hooked into your R connector). Confirm proper wiring. b. identify which wire is going to the associated zone valve for that zone (should be the wire currently hooked into your W connector). Confirm proper wiring c. Work backwards from the zone valve motor to find the single (usually yellow wire) that is connected to a single wire coming in from thermostat wire bundles. (the other yellow motor wire is connected to the non load side of a transformer and in my case is maretted with a bunch of yellow zone valve wires and one other wire going to the non-load side of one of my three transformers) d. The single yellow wire connected to another single wire is how you find the W wire from the applicable thermostat and now you have located the correct thermostat wire bundle in the boiler room. e. trace the R wire from this bundle to the associated transformer as this is were the common wire needs to be attached. f. attach the common wire end in the boiler room, typically with a marette to a new piece of wire which is then attached to the SAME TRANSFORMER as the R wire BUT to the opposite side(screw). Synopsis A: With a multi-transformer scenario, I found the easiest thing to do was find the yellow wires (coming from my honeywell zone valves and attached to the motor) and found which one was connected to the W wire from the wire bundle - this was a one to one connection. (The other yellow wire was joined with other zone valve yellow wires and was connected to a wire going to one of my transformers on the opposite side to the load side on that transformer and thus not helpful.). Finding the W wire allowed me to trace back to the 3 wire bundle from that thermostat coming into a common wiring box. Now I could locate the Common wire and importantly the R wire. I had to know which transformer the R wire went to, in order to ensure the common wire went to the opposite side of the same transformer. B. AT thermostat the following step applied. (a) Ensure the R and RC switch is down, in the 2 slot position (both holes exposed) (b) Connect the C wire to the C post/slot (c) Connect the R wire to the R post/slot (d) Connect the W wire to the W post/slot (e) create a little jumper wire (u shaped with exposed copper at the ends) and CONNECT R to Rc Explanation: The R and W wires form a 24 volt circuit WHEN the thermostat calls for heat, (the thermostat joins the R and W wires creating a circuit for juice to flow). The jumper between R and Rc creates and additional circuit between Rc and C WHICH HONEYWELL OMITS in all their literature. Tech support kept telling me I needed four wires, R,W,C and Rc and that I needed to create a similar circuit to RW, using C and Rc. Well by using the jumper I effectively used the Juice on the R side sharing it with Rc. Since the honeywell internally connects Rc and C, the needed circuit is established from the get go and the thermostat powers up. When the thermostat calls for heat, the R and W are connected and the zone valve motor turns on and operns the valve (tested and works). So the two keys are (1) knowing that honeywell uses the Rc slot and C slot for power to the unit and (2) the C wire has to be on the same transformer but opposite side in the boiler room If you have the different standard square sized honeywell thermostat or find the video on you tube for WIFI honeywell, you will see that they have the jumper already in place!!! Good luck with your own situation. :-)
I'll have to figure out how to turn this up some other way. I can't hear anything you're saying and I want to listen because you're getting so many compliments on your video.
Hi Nat, I am not sure why the AC won't turn on. If I were there to see it I could probably pin point the problem. As far as the device power cycling when trying to set up the wifi is weird. I never seen that issue. Is the device new? Sorry I could not be more informative.
I have a Problem, So our technician already got us set up with the T5 Lyric MONTHS AGO BRAND NEW, I stumbled upon this video cause for some reason the past 3 days.. the thermostat would SHUT OFF and then have that SAME pulsating light as you can see here 6:15 . Then I would leave it alone and observe (while timing the "loop") it would pulsate for a good 10mins, then it would turn on again and start the furnace-AC unit to its last setting ( i left it on cool since the house was kinda getting warm) then it would just run NORMALLY for a good 15-20mins till it will POWER DOWN AGAIN... pulsate for 10mins and so on with the "LOOP" I have tried Factory resetting the T5 Thermostat unit but nothing has changed.... same LOOP. Can anyone share some help here? i did'nt touch the configuration of the wires and i plan to go to home depot to buy a NEW unit, same product (if they still sell this in 2022) and then see if it works incase its not the current thermostats units fault. WOULD APPRECIATE ANYONE who can help. I just find it strange cause all these months its been working sweet...
If I were you, I would replace it to see if the problem persist. Here are a couple of links to ones that are fairly cheap (below). www.ebay.com/itm/334509774693?epid=571902923&hash=item4de2561765:g:5ocAAOSw9Pxi2aYi&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsOIqVDkOhNJeyWyVxJzzpQuUzmDbsGxAd%2F86kuBVa0vUeK1tKon14HF4oDIuFjIxKb4BnMm7Jc1Y3Q3QEaUeIHFMyyYPPr7AoUASdwC5aB9zbWpGiilsMCkzYobXUEWVfmM5kxxIE%2BZwGrG8iO%2F1aYshLu5%2BGlCxLH9jGVegdXhPCuHp%2FGxpGHJHiIsDzkQi9luXZhoRpK%2Fut8GpZo0gz4zwusMQ5DEQk%2BykNYFvp5%2Fr%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4y2vqrjYA www.ebay.com/itm/115476854283?hash=item1ae2f4f60b:g:Tq8AAOSw0IBcn5W-&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8KHEwfHCLvXgEvY3mP49%2BBA817OfDVfbmP%2Bk6vIxj8zr5NwTfCRtcdGmeehL%2Bidu6eeFI3t6lELW%2F6AWwGaLr3cRxKabgRcPFkizXIpf0dnu%2BhnPxC4Dwfb%2FPtkRuKakSbRoo5x41exMiQCHLE7Y5%2BbWEXSNOIrRvN78ApnnmDyTxvEo72kYA6iTA8H7qVpkoNzM%2FwyMivq3mZXLEp75eglxs8miTwPJXDCEeWgDhrqjXs4uc07f%2FLVnpE8yB%2BhJ5bDH3rBEDyIDEiHE2fIMh84fNNYj5dk1iErU3V5kGNxoBw4xJe1mZfkXlCOeZHJaDQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4y2vqrjYA
I tried this too, this would not work and only powered the fan and heat. I connected the Common C wire appropriately and now the AC, Heat and fan all work perfectly!
if you have a 4 wire setup and need this yes you can put the green fan wire on c/common and go to the air handler and just put a jumper wire between g and y1 if its a heatpump problem if you have a gas furnace you better hope you have a heat seq for the fan.
Great video... I spent 40 minutes being on hold waiting for Honeywell Tech support while I found your video. It worked!! Does anyone know if the AC will still work doing this? Its winter here and my AC units are covered with plastic covers so I can't check at this time.
Hey man. Just want to start off by saying thanks for making this video!!!! Just bought this today thinking I’m doing my family a service by being more efficient and smart about heating/cooling. Here’s the thing. I don’t wanna use the “Y” in “C” as I have AC and lately we NEED it here. I traced back my wiring and found two bundles. One going to AC and one to thermostat. The one going to thermostat does not have the “C”. The bundle going from furnace to AC unit has the “C” wire. Could I just fish a wire from thermostat and connect to the same “C” location on the furnace circuit board ? I would simply buy a length of wire, tie it to the bundle that comes out at thermostat and pull towards furnace. Install my C wire on panel and fish it back up through the walls and back to thermostat. Would this work ? lol
Hi Mario Patrick, I have been out of town for the last month. I wasn't able to check my messages until today. I do apologize for the delayed response. Did you ever get the thermostat up and going?
For whatever reason this didn't work for my 4 wire configuration. Although it did get the thermostat to power on (it previously wasn't) The AC Compressor would not come on after. It would only blow regular air and I didn't even test heat. Turns out I actually have four more wires available for use if I need them so I will try use one of the extra wires to hook this thing up, but I'm not sure its going to work. As I already tried tying in one of the extra wires to the "Y" at the control board level and then using the thermostat end of new wire for the "Common" that also got me power, but still the same issue with no compressor kicking in. I will ask an HVAC Contact about it unless you have any ideas. I live in a condominium building. I believe I have what is known as a "package" whereabouts furnace/condensor/blower are all in one inside the condo. However far as I can tell it wires up just like your standard forced air or condenser unit. There was a jumper on my old thermostat as well. But you know Lyric says you don't need them so...
I installed the T5 last night. Everything was smooth sailing, install, wifi lync, mobile app until I turned it to cool mode. So it was blowing hot air set at cool mode. I have a 7 wire setup with a single mode heat pump. I have a R, Y, G, C, O/B, W2, and E wire.
Hi, I am not sure why you were getting hot air while the thermostat was set at cool mode. These T5 are tricky devices. It could be something in the settings because you have a 7 wire setup.
vista7 Honeywell thermostats use a fail safe system to avoid damaging the compressor of your ac unit. when installed, It will run your furnace in hot for about 10 min. then it will go back to ac.
Hello, when I looked in my setup on the system, my y and c are hooked to the same. I put my G back in the G slot. Used a little white cable that came with the thermostat and put it in the C slot
I don't even have a common wire on my set up all I have is central heat and the only wires out of my wall is red and white I just had a nest thermostat recently but I returned it because it was not working right where I don't have a common wire my furnace would click click click and run randomly continuously often on so unfortunately I had to go back to my old traditional digital thermostat to takes to Double-A batteries but since watched your video it looks like this may not work for me either since I don't have that common wire at all
Hi jeremy32100, you can upgrade to a newer thermostat. Since you don't have a C-Wire, below is a link to an alternative. This is what most people are switching to because it offers a power source for WiFi thermostats, doorbells, etc... It's an easy install. Well, I hope this helped. www.ebay.com/itm/C-Wire-Power-Adapter-Transformer-Ecobee-Nest-WiFi-Thermostat-Ring-Doorbell-24V/264130091450?epid=3012018759&hash=item3d7f6159ba:g:pJsAAOSwIIFbOI50:rk:1:pf:0
Dang, I wanted this to work so badly. I thought it was working but I don't think it was pushing out cool air. When I left my house, the temperature was 83 degrees but when I came back 30 minutes later, it was 86. I still appreciate you taking the time to make this video though.
I just had this installed in March, how do I turn the Heater off? It’s summer now and I don’t see a off button? I turned it down to 60 so it’s not kicking on the heat, but I would like to completely turn it off, Thanks
Hi Sassy, I sold the house this unit was installed in however, if I can remember, I believe you tap on the "heat on" up top and turn it off or press the "mode" button and it should give you an option to turn it off. It's a very simple method. I am sorry that I cannot provide accurate details. Let me know if one or the other works. Thanks for watching!
Hi, I am not sure because this was a while ago however, I believe it was for a newer furnace and mines was from the 90's so I didn't need it. I could be wrong. I clearly remembered that I could not use it though. I apologize for not stating that information at the time of this install. Thanks for watching!
Hi Marc, It may have worked if I jumped the two. However, this way worked fine. If I could go back and redo this video, I would have added a C-Wire power source adapter. They cost around $20 and is a GREAT power solution. The unit is still wired this way and works flawlessly. Thanks for watching. Happy New Years!
@@TerenceDIY thx... I tested my AC and it didn't work of course, so thought I would try the G wire in C, and put Y back and everything works. I should have just tried that first, just figured it wouldn't work since the manual mentioned doing rewiring on the furnace. I lucked out. Thx for sharing the video.
My Lyric Thermostat came with a white jumper wire about two inches long. Did yours not?Not sure if I should jump from the Y to the c or not? The tech support guy told me to run a new wire from the furnace the thermostat.
Hi, mines did NOT come with a jumper wire. Maybe they decided to add one since they realized the huge issue with installation. I wouldn't run a new wire to the furnace. If you choose not to install it the way that I did, you can purchase a power source. Here is the link. www.ebay.com/itm/24-Volt-C-Wire-Power-Adapter-Transformer-Wifi-Smart-Thermostats-and-Doorbells/263741136964?epid=3012018759&hash=item3d68326044:g:A~8AAOSwXahbamzS:rk:1:pf:0
Sorry for the late response. You will need a power adapter to power up the T5. Here is a link to one.... www.ebay.com/itm/24-Volt-C-Wire-AC-Adapter-Transformer-for-Thermostat-25-Ft-For-Nest-Ecobee-24v/402477365908?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5db5853a94:g:xf4AAOSwRKRfe8wQ&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkTboA95HSvGa1O5UmCCGJLjCFoFBQZ94DziQL3Ja9b%252FOoYBsXx4W5PDBpZwVWCywEobDD%252Fi%252F2%252BUQZpiAKKVz9AXTjgXttIs7O57XeqoWRpIo9mB%252Bq6d%252BkMl1H12n0DsLMASeAg6LdFxtTcMF8MUflUU%252BrAHBwN7Yxs81WChgNyj2MtaHmzumGwiKZDYh0eJRZmJi3FvfL2a8sKgiC2JGTC4BtpzE95fPStbReOk0AltFWnj%252FInad6mfJ5N0Y0akesnmCGMVCZIlC%252FMW5opbcUqto%252FmIv77dH3K4fzHStThlKxotYHslakfAMXjXBMLhiIcliP7XAJYigAr3vEwVnsOc2UCEHQwCUC8SjyN0BTsbJuOt1kCNBxfMmvsspOkmcyZSu9M7ST3bu%252Bc03tCtvmIApSk3H7%252BViaEmBx5M3ZtZxjsmi7vAUIhw3l29mLqhLb98mnFit7CkGsPoQzavcAUp5YhAJqfsJsJCKaHck7nLI%252BIJATgGkw4V%252Fz%252BEEPbFr1u3BKdPvydIXDFY%252FB6wm6f38K0qOU7BGYrWUwPgbozcLmKhTbtG1gdiemShStyfGg%252FGdGUqSE%252FYERZIgnMNIam88O3kjdjyOxDHhlafJJ2ReBNSfPbHYwaxdjJdN8Vl3%252FzP5X6kjVf%252Fls7u3Hkg7bCEpjiAys%252FyQjgjZCVE5Om5TVUJNN4aEqfg0jmiButk1MI%252FNABsxc%252FUXHdUyQP2irNhE7iCetbko7hoGfcfhuvsGvjGTKBMYifc74jxagZ4GrppBgmcjZOYOzIghXe29Ehg%253D%253D%7Ccksum%3A4024773659089044c99b0e4f4508baf1e2561a2a4977%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524
hey I have a question ? im a loss prevention officer for a department store that sells these I have been finding lots of stashed t-stats that are all ripped open but everything is always there may I ask what is those number codes on the front of the t -stat when u installed it what is that code for and does that code activate anything or something ? I believe there getting the codes off them for some reason
can u wire that thermidtat to a 2 wire boiler system(r and w) I have a boiler with an aquastat and I have 2 hineywell zone.valves for controlling 2 zones. I ran 3'wires but dont know where my c wire ties.Into the boiler
Man I feel glad that my G wire worked for the Common. Glad you got it working. 👍
I take it all back!!! please disregard my previous posts. Your video saved my life!! I installed my thermostat (as the guide book said) and it would not work. I called the 1 800 number and the support tech told me I had to buy a wire saver device from amazon to power the thermostat. After a few moments of major frustration I watched your video again and followed your advice about the c-wire connection and BOOM! I was good to go! Please accept my apology if it weren't for your video I would be in the dark with this very expensive thermostat. I would also like to say its a shame that customer support doesn't know, or simply wont tell the customer about great fix you've posted here. Any way thanks again, I really cant express how thankful I am to you for your video. You rock!!!! Peace out.
Big man, your a life saver. Ive been fighting with this silly thing forever !! Moving that Yellow wire got it working !! 👍🏻💪🏻 Update; That got me to the point where the thermostat lit up / came to life; issue then was while it would turn on the fan it would not turn on the outside unit / condenser (yes mine is a forced air ac / heat system & I realize that differs from yours) my end solution was to read the electrical schematic diagram find the + 24 v (in my units case it was brown) put the yellow back in its port & the brown hooked to the blue via the wires that run through the wall blue to the C, works perfect now :)
That's awesome! I am glad my video helped you. Thank you for watching.
@@TerenceDIY Update; That got me to the point where the thermostat lit up / came to life; issue then was while it would turn on the fan it would not turn on the outside unit / condenser (yes mine is a forced air ac / heat system & I realize that differs from yours) my end solution was to read the electrical schematic diagram find the + 24 v (in my units case it was brown) put the yellow back in its port & the brown hooked to the blue via the wires that run through the wall blue to the C, works perfect now :)
That's awesome!
My Husband almost went crazy trying to do this. I am so glad I found your video!
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed! I had the same problem with the initial installation. My blue wire was going to Y. Moving it to C got it all working. This video saved me a lot of time, phone calls and maybe even on-site service.
THANK YOU!
I just got the T-5 thermostat and tried to install it and ran into a wall when I turned the power back on. I found your post and instructions and Now it works! Thank you very much for uploading your post and instructions on this issue, I really do appreciate you very much. LOL! I was on the phone for hours waiting for the support line.
Your video helped me. Moved the yellow down my lcd show up. But to depend on what AC unit you have and apps settings. Heater 1 is the way to go
I am glad my video helped you. Thanks for watching.
Your video was a life saver. When you finally said the green wire goes to a different spot, everything worked fine. Thank you very much.
no need to apologize! you're so nice to have done us a favour by uploading this great tutorial - it really helped!
This Works!! I never leave msgs on peoples videos, cause quite honestly I dont care to do so. but this is the only video I came across out of alllllllll the videos I watched in the span of 2 hrs that worked. Thanks Terence! your a real one. I wired my new wifi emerson sensi to my old ass 1980's configuration and boom! I was doing it!. After I was done I walked around my house with my chest poked out in front of my wife like I did it by myself. Salute!
You're very welcome! I am glad my video helped you. Thanks for watching!
This video is great. You are very helpful. We didn’t know why our thermostat wasn’t working and you explained it perfectly. I highly recommend it. Thank you, Mister!
Hi Trina, sorry for the delayed response. I have just finished my film school course, but now I'm back! I am glad my video helped you. Happy New Years!
Thanks, your Yellow wire trick was exactly what my 15 old furnace required. Green wire only turned on the fan.
I bought a honeywell wifi, my house was built in 2009 so the ac unit isnt that old, was going to return it after the screen wouldn't turn on, thank god i found your video brotha! Y to C, C to Y worked for me!
does your thermostat have 5 wires also? I replacing mine with then new T5 as well and I couldnt get the screen to turn on. Everything is in place I got G,W,Y, R, and C. So you're saying switch the Y to C, C to Y and will work? I also have a gas furnace as well.
Did all the functions work when you did this? Any issues?
THANK YOU! I was getting really frustrated and didn't know about having to move the Green wire from G to C. Worked as soon as I moved it!
Hey man I really appreciate you making this video! It really helped me set it up in my new home! I’m a first time owner and I’m learning on how to do everything myself.
You're welcome, Jose. I am glad my video helped.
Terence. Thanks for sharing your solution! It worked for my set up perfectly. I tried other suggestions like adding an additional 5 the wire for the C connection and that didnt work for me. Swapping the Y connection over to the C connector worked. The device is working great now. Thanks again!
Hi Richard and Claudia Negron, I am glad my video helped you. Thank you SO much for watching!
Did you ever have any issues doing this? I had to do the same thing
Thank you for your last minute decision to video this! I too have an older hvac system and the green/blue trick worked for me! Thank you!
You're very welcome, Brant. Thanks for watching!
Great tutorial, my thermostat wouldn't power up. I switched my yellow wire to C and Violia, worked like a charm. Thank you for saving me troubleshooting and frustration.
You're very welcome, Pat. Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for posting this. I was getting so angry because I had the common wire connected to the same colored wire that was "extra" from my old unit. Nonetheless, I figured out that that colored wire was going to something else. In fact, the wire I needed to connect to the common was wrapped around the wire casing that went up to my thermostat. All I needed to do was connect it with a wire nut and voila!
Bro, your advice for the Y to C worked for me too!!!!!! Saved me a ton of time!
Thank you for this video. My bf installed this last night and insisted that something was wrong with it, because it was not coming on. We were on the phone with support for hours. After watching this video I noticed you explained that push up/down switch for 1 wire or 2. I went and set it to 1 and bam! START SET UP appeared. Now I get to gloat and showboat all day pretending that fixed it on my own. Right on man!!!
Great video! Thanks! I'm in the technical field too! I work in California for several power plants doing instrumentation and controls. Nothing is ever simple? Always, Murphy is on board to create chaos! Thank you again!
You're very welcome, Kraabell! Thanks for watching!
Never would have guessedthe green going into C. Thanks a lot man!
Thank you! This helped us when Honeywell support couldn't figure out the problem. Really appreciate you posting this!
Hi Karin Joy, Sorry for the delayed reply. I am currently working on an amazing video about health that I will be uploading to my channel soon. I am glad this video was helpful to you an everyone else in the comment section. Thank you.
Thank you for posting this!! I couldn't figure out what to do then replaced the C & G and it worked! You are a life saver!
You are very welcome, roxyrainsford123!
Thank you sir! I had the same issues you had at the beginning and then followed your video and it worked. Thank you for saving me so much time and frustration!!!
Hi Candice MacDonald, Sorry for the delayed response. For some strange reason, my comments are not coming to my email anymore. I have to check in to this. I am glad my video helped you. Thanks for watching!
Hi again. I was just wondering, and in no way trying to blame. I installed the unit Sept 28 and just 2 days ago, the AC won't turn on. A tech just came by and said the conductor needs to be replaced. I have no clue about things like this. Do you have any idea if the new thermostat could have blown the conductor? or the way I installed it? Keep in mind, the AC unit is very old. So it may just be a coincidence and was simply it's time to go lol. Any advice is appreciated....and maybe some reassurance I did nothing wrong :)
Wow you are awesome! My boyfriend tried to install this and was having trouble with it but good thing we watched your video. Thank you for your help. This video was very helpful!
You're very welcome, Nica Nazareno. I am glad my video helped you guys. Thanks for watching!
Got mine connected and controlled using my Lenovo Smart Display (with Google Assistant) which is also connected to a few home minis. Works perfectly fine, keep up the good work!
Awesome Don Shue! Thanks for watching!
I put the Y wire in the C and it works just fine! Thanks for your vid
I had to do this too. Did you ever notice any problems doing this? Any loss of functions? Any problems what so ever?
Thanks so much you are awesome you saved me so much time. My dad always said to me "if you don't have enough brains to do something borrow someone else's."
I dont usually comment on stuff. But whole toledo batman it worked thanks to you!! You’re amazing dude
Thank you Terence. Wasn't my exact problem but you made me think to check out at the furnace and bingo.
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching.
I have been in Hvac all my life 2nd generation and wish there were more minorities in the field. This guy did a perfect job and I was impressed. Keep up the good work! Not all white people area a-holes.
Thank you Ernestine and thanks for watching!
Thanks man. The "g" going into "c" fixed my issue. really appreciate the video. Helped me perfectly.
You're very welcome.
Yoooo my man! Thank you so much! I was about to give up and take the fuckin thing back, i checked RUclips one more time and caught your video. Changed the blue and green wires to the G and Y spots and boom.
Hi Zach, I am glad my video helped you. Thanks for watching!
I just followed the lead on this & so far things are workin gr8..... 🙏🏾 Appreciate the guidance
Thank you so much for sharing this video. Halfway through, seeing the g-c wire thing, l know you saved my day.
Thanks a lot. I got the same old thermostat. And it's good to see that you got it to work.
Wow! This worked for me too. Thanks so much.
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching.
mannnn this was very helpful. if it wasn't for this video i would of took this back to the store
This video saved me from losing my mind. Thank you sir.
No problem, Kevin! I am glad my video helped you as it did others. Thanks for watching!
Great video man I just bought this thermostat to replace the old one. hopefully it'll hook up quick and easy after watching this helpful video.
Good day. Read on if you have three wire thermostat bundling. In my case multizone hotwater heating with 8 zone valves, 3 transformers and a propane boiler (and 5 pumps).
This applies to those moving from a two wire honeywell thermostat (which covers the older mercury tube type, OR the LCD display type that needed batteries to display and programme).
All my wiring bundles included a third wire folded back, which we will use for the Common Wire discussed. (no fan, no cooling, no heat pump, just heat)
A. The steps are as follows.
a. identify which wire is going to the load side of the transformer in the boiler room (should be the wire currently hooked into your R connector). Confirm proper wiring.
b. identify which wire is going to the associated zone valve for that zone (should be the wire currently hooked into your W connector). Confirm proper wiring
c. Work backwards from the zone valve motor to find the single (usually yellow wire) that is connected to a single wire coming in from thermostat wire bundles.
(the other yellow motor wire is connected to the non load side of a transformer and in my case is maretted with a bunch of yellow zone valve wires and one other wire going to the non-load side of one of my three transformers)
d. The single yellow wire connected to another single wire is how you find the W wire from the applicable thermostat and now you have located the correct thermostat wire bundle in the boiler room.
e. trace the R wire from this bundle to the associated transformer as this is were the common wire needs to be attached.
f. attach the common wire end in the boiler room, typically with a marette to a new piece of wire which is then attached to the SAME TRANSFORMER as the R wire BUT to the opposite side(screw).
Synopsis A: With a multi-transformer scenario, I found the easiest thing to do was find the yellow wires (coming from my honeywell zone valves and attached to the motor) and found which one was connected to the W wire from the wire bundle - this was a one to one connection. (The other yellow wire was joined with other zone valve yellow wires and was connected to a wire going to one of my transformers on the opposite side to the load side on that transformer and thus not helpful.). Finding the W wire allowed me to trace back to the 3 wire bundle from that thermostat coming into a common wiring box. Now I could locate the Common wire and importantly the R wire. I had to know which transformer the R wire went to, in order to ensure the common wire went to the opposite side of the same transformer.
B. AT thermostat the following step applied.
(a) Ensure the R and RC switch is down, in the 2 slot position (both holes exposed)
(b) Connect the C wire to the C post/slot
(c) Connect the R wire to the R post/slot
(d) Connect the W wire to the W post/slot
(e) create a little jumper wire (u shaped with exposed copper at the ends) and CONNECT R to Rc
Explanation: The R and W wires form a 24 volt circuit WHEN the thermostat calls for heat, (the thermostat joins the R and W wires creating a circuit for juice to flow).
The jumper between R and Rc creates and additional circuit between Rc and C WHICH HONEYWELL OMITS in all their literature. Tech support kept telling me I needed four wires, R,W,C and Rc and that I needed to create a similar circuit to RW, using C and Rc. Well by using the jumper I effectively used the Juice on the R side sharing it with Rc. Since the honeywell internally connects Rc and C, the needed circuit is established from the get go and the thermostat powers up. When the thermostat calls for heat, the R and W are connected and the zone valve motor turns on and operns the valve (tested and works).
So the two keys are (1) knowing that honeywell uses the Rc slot and C slot for power to the unit and (2) the C wire has to be on the same transformer but opposite side in the boiler room
If you have the different standard square sized honeywell thermostat or find the video on you tube for WIFI honeywell, you will see that they have the jumper already in place!!!
Good luck with your own situation. :-)
Thanks, Alex Raiche-Marsden for spreading the knowledge!
Thank you thank you thank you!! I could not figure out what I was doing wrong but I followed your video and bam! Power on!
Bro. All the thanks! Newer furnace than yours it seems, but your line of thought saved me. Thanks
I'll have to figure out how to turn this up some other way. I can't hear anything you're saying and I want to listen because you're getting so many compliments on your video.
Hi Robert, I apologize for the audio of this video. I will do much better in future videos. Thanks for watching!
saved me a lot of trouble man! I was about to go return this damn thing. you the best
Thank you for your video, I've been installed and it wouldn't kick on until you recommended G has to go to C, Thank you!!
All I can say is THANK YOU !!!!!
You're very welcome, Jose.
Do you have an idea why my ac wont kick on? And when we go to wifi set up the screen would turn off and start over. Any advice
Hi Nat, I am not sure why the AC won't turn on. If I were there to see it I could probably pin point the problem. As far as the device power cycling when trying to set up the wifi is weird. I never seen that issue. Is the device new? Sorry I could not be more informative.
I have a Problem, So our technician already got us set up with the T5 Lyric MONTHS AGO BRAND NEW, I stumbled upon this video cause for some reason the past 3 days.. the thermostat would SHUT OFF and then have that SAME pulsating light as you can see here 6:15 . Then I would leave it alone and observe (while timing the "loop") it would pulsate for a good 10mins, then it would turn on again and start the furnace-AC unit to its last setting ( i left it on cool since the house was kinda getting warm) then it would just run NORMALLY for a good 15-20mins till it will POWER DOWN AGAIN... pulsate for 10mins and so on with the "LOOP"
I have tried Factory resetting the T5 Thermostat unit but nothing has changed.... same LOOP.
Can anyone share some help here? i did'nt touch the configuration of the wires and i plan to go to home depot to buy a NEW unit, same product (if they still sell this in 2022) and then see if it works incase its not the current thermostats units fault.
WOULD APPRECIATE ANYONE who can help. I just find it strange cause all these months its been working sweet...
If I were you, I would replace it to see if the problem persist. Here are a couple of links to ones that are fairly cheap (below).
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I tried this too, this would not work and only powered the fan and heat. I connected the Common C wire appropriately and now the AC, Heat and fan all work perfectly!
Thank you for this video, I had the same problem as you. I wouldn’t have figured out the wiring myself
But thank you for the video if you didn't post it I wouldn't even have a video to get me started. Thanks again
Thank you! That solved the problem!
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
if you have a 4 wire setup and need this yes you can put the green fan wire on c/common and go to the air handler and just put a jumper wire between g and y1 if its a heatpump problem if you have a gas furnace you better hope you have a heat seq for the fan.
Great video... I spent 40 minutes being on hold waiting for Honeywell Tech support while I found your video. It worked!! Does anyone know if the AC will still work doing this? Its winter here and my AC units are covered with plastic covers so I can't check at this time.
Thanks for the troubleshooting help. It save me time and money and criticism from the wife.
Thank you so much. I was just doing it alone. Not knowing anything about cables.
You are the best. Thank you.
Hey man. Just want to start off by saying thanks for making this video!!!! Just bought this today thinking I’m doing my family a service by being more efficient and smart about heating/cooling.
Here’s the thing. I don’t wanna use the “Y” in “C” as I have AC and lately we NEED it here.
I traced back my wiring and found two bundles. One going to AC and one to thermostat. The one going to thermostat does not have the “C”. The bundle going from furnace to AC unit has the “C” wire. Could I just fish a wire from thermostat and connect to the same “C” location on the furnace circuit board ?
I would simply buy a length of wire, tie it to the bundle that comes out at thermostat and pull towards furnace. Install my C wire on panel and fish it back up through the walls and back to thermostat.
Would this work ? lol
Hi Mario Patrick, I have been out of town for the last month. I wasn't able to check my messages until today. I do apologize for the delayed response. Did you ever get the thermostat up and going?
Mario, you just described the ideal 5 wire setup :-)
So what is going to happen to the y 🤔
Outstanding!
Thank you and thank you SO much for watching.
Worked like a charm man, thanks!!
What if you only have 2 wires running to your old thermostat? And what to install one of this lyric t5?
Thank you. Your video fixed my issue
You're very welcome, Christina Terry. All I want to do is help if I can.
man you saved me a huge headache. Thanks!
Thanks a lot it worked just like you said if you see this follow what he is showing you he knows what he is doing
For whatever reason this didn't work for my 4 wire configuration. Although it did get the thermostat to power on (it previously wasn't) The AC Compressor would not come on after. It would only blow regular air and I didn't even test heat.
Turns out I actually have four more wires available for use if I need them so I will try use one of the extra wires to hook this thing up, but I'm not sure its going to work. As I already tried tying in one of the extra wires to the "Y" at the control board level and then using the thermostat end of new wire for the "Common" that also got me power, but still the same issue with no compressor kicking in.
I will ask an HVAC Contact about it unless you have any ideas. I live in a condominium building. I believe I have what is known as a "package" whereabouts furnace/condensor/blower are all in one inside the condo. However far as I can tell it wires up just like your standard forced air or condenser unit. There was a jumper on my old thermostat as well. But you know Lyric says you don't need them so...
Thanks man, very helpful. I had the same wiring issue. You saved me bro!!
I installed the T5 last night. Everything was smooth sailing, install, wifi lync, mobile app until I turned it to cool mode. So it was blowing hot air set at cool mode. I have a 7 wire setup with a single mode heat pump. I have a R, Y, G, C, O/B, W2, and E wire.
Hi,
I am not sure why you were getting hot air while the thermostat was set at cool mode. These T5 are tricky devices. It could be something in the settings because you have a 7 wire setup.
vista7 Honeywell thermostats use a fail safe system to avoid damaging the compressor of your ac unit. when installed, It will run your furnace in hot for about 10 min. then it will go back to ac.
Yah, I finally got it working. That must have been what the problem was. It works great now.
Provably have the O/B wire wrong
Thanks a lot! There’s nothing on the internet on this!
Your video was most helpful, thank you.
You're very welcome, Teresa.
why the y to the c??
Because that house current setup did not have a C-wire.
Hello, when I looked in my setup on the system, my y and c are hooked to the same. I put my G back in the G slot. Used a little white cable that came with the thermostat and put it in the C slot
Thermostat powered on and I was able to set it up but I noticed my air conditioner won't power on. Please help
great video man thanks for all the tips made putting mine in a lot easier.
The homekit barcode is needed to connect to HomeKit. If you don't want HomeKit don't worry about it.
Hey bud thanks so much for the video!!!!! You just saved me hours of aggravation. Your the man!!!!! Lmao
thank you for your vid! it save my day. i had the same issue with the green wire🤗🤗🤗
Thanks for your video. It helped me power up my Thermostat. Any idea why it won't cool down to 74? It is stuck at 83 and running.
Nelson Chukwuelue same
I don't even have a common wire on my set up all I have is central heat and the only wires out of my wall is red and white I just had a nest thermostat recently but I returned it because it was not working right where I don't have a common wire my furnace would click click click and run randomly continuously often on so unfortunately I had to go back to my old traditional digital thermostat to takes to Double-A batteries but since watched your video it looks like this may not work for me either since I don't have that common wire at all
Hi jeremy32100, you can upgrade to a newer thermostat. Since you don't have a C-Wire, below is a link to an alternative. This is what most people are switching to because it offers a power source for WiFi thermostats, doorbells, etc... It's an easy install. Well, I hope this helped. www.ebay.com/itm/C-Wire-Power-Adapter-Transformer-Ecobee-Nest-WiFi-Thermostat-Ring-Doorbell-24V/264130091450?epid=3012018759&hash=item3d7f6159ba:g:pJsAAOSwIIFbOI50:rk:1:pf:0
Thank you so much! This fixed my issue.
You're, very welcome.
Thank you! This was very helpful.
You're very welcome, Jeffrey. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for this video!!! It really helped!!
You're very welcome, Tayler Douglas! Thanks for watching!
Dang, I wanted this to work so badly. I thought it was working but I don't think it was pushing out cool air. When I left my house, the temperature was 83 degrees but when I came back 30 minutes later, it was 86. I still appreciate you taking the time to make this video though.
Question...Replacing the G wire for the C wire, when turning the heat on, does the fan come on as well or does it only come on when u turn the AC on?
Sorry for the late response, the fan should come on shortly after the burners turn on.
I just had this installed in March, how do I turn the Heater off? It’s summer now and I don’t see a off button? I turned it down to 60 so it’s not kicking on the heat, but I would like to completely turn it off, Thanks
Hi Sassy, I sold the house this unit was installed in however, if I can remember, I believe you tap on the "heat on" up top and turn it off or press the "mode" button and it should give you an option to turn it off. It's a very simple method. I am sorry that I cannot provide accurate details. Let me know if one or the other works. Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much! You really saved us!
Hi Jeannie, you're very welcome. I am glad my video helped. Thanks for watching!
Great job. Thanks for your video.
You're very welcome, Monte Olsen. Thanks for watching!
So what’s that other cable with a small box that’s comes with the thermostat...I saw someone connect it to the furnace..why is that ?
Hi, I am not sure because this was a while ago however, I believe it was for a newer furnace and mines was from the 90's so I didn't need it. I could be wrong. I clearly remembered that I could not use it though. I apologize for not stating that information at the time of this install. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing! Using the Y to C wire worked for my heat, have to wait to try A/C.
Couldn't you just jump Y to C though? Wouldn't that work?
Hi Marc, It may have worked if I jumped the two. However, this way worked fine. If I could go back and redo this video, I would have added a C-Wire power source adapter. They cost around $20 and is a GREAT power solution. The unit is still wired this way and works flawlessly. Thanks for watching. Happy New Years!
@@TerenceDIY thx... I tested my AC and it didn't work of course, so thought I would try the G wire in C, and put Y back and everything works. I should have just tried that first, just figured it wouldn't work since the manual mentioned doing rewiring on the furnace. I lucked out. Thx for sharing the video.
My Lyric Thermostat came with a white jumper wire about two inches long. Did yours not?Not sure if I should jump from the Y to the c or not? The tech support guy told me to run a new wire from the furnace the thermostat.
Hi, mines did NOT come with a jumper wire. Maybe they decided to add one since they realized the huge issue with installation. I wouldn't run a new wire to the furnace. If you choose not to install it the way that I did, you can purchase a power source. Here is the link. www.ebay.com/itm/24-Volt-C-Wire-Power-Adapter-Transformer-Wifi-Smart-Thermostats-and-Doorbells/263741136964?epid=3012018759&hash=item3d68326044:g:A~8AAOSwXahbamzS:rk:1:pf:0
So what does the original Y wire actually do and and is there any functionality that is missing because we don't use that wire?
Thanks for the video I had the same issue!
What would you do if there are only two wires on the original (old) thermostat you're trying to replace with the T5?
Sorry for the late response. You will need a power adapter to power up the T5. Here is a link to one....
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Thank you so much for this video!!
hey I have a question ? im a loss prevention officer for a department store that sells these I have been finding lots of stashed t-stats that are all ripped open but everything is always there may I ask what is those number codes on the front of the t -stat when u installed it what is that code for and does that code activate anything or something ? I believe there getting the codes off them for some reason
Thank you so much! Saved my purchase
Awesome install thank you.
Thanks, Gina.
@@TerenceDIY your welcome you saved me.
Thank you SO much! You rock.
You're very welcome, Michael Digh. I am glad my video helped. Thanks for watching!
can u wire that thermidtat to a 2 wire boiler system(r and w) I have a boiler with an aquastat and I have 2 hineywell zone.valves for controlling 2 zones. I ran 3'wires but dont know where my c wire ties.Into the boiler