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Haha, the codex thing reminds me of being in the Warhammer store once:
"Oh can I look at the codex?"
"Sure"
"ah this one has the plastic on it"
"yes."
"ok....."
Dude! You can't call out one guy for shortening mathematics to just math singular (not the correct, maths plural) then go on YOURSELF to refer to the plural of codex as 'codexes' not the CORRECT codices!
yeah, part of the reason why i unsubscribed from north was that he’s definitely a bit full of double standards. love the guy and still pop back in occasionally but i don’t feel comfortable giving him the full support of a subscription at the moment.
There was this one manager we all loved, he had this method that worked like 90% - 95% of the time. He would put the item he was talking about in your hand and it would trick your brain to buy it! Something about it being in your hand, psychology blah blah. He was cool one of the best he was lenient on rules to a degree i.e. store copies of codeices to look at among other things (he let me use some store paints to help me paint my first model)
The store was always packed even on weekdays especially after school and his numbers were always something to be praised
After he was let go for reasons I won't go into they put a temp manager that was awful, she was never interested in the hobby, was either using her phone or on the PC (granted the PC was likely to do work but I digress) and would often bring her kid who at the time was like 4.
The kid was annoying, either crying the entire time or he'd shuffle product making it difficult to find anything.
But the absolute worst thing this kid would do is go to tables that players left to grab a bite and take their models and play with them on a center display table.
Luckily no one straight up yelled at the kid but we all would regularly complain to the mother who would just tell him to stop and that's it.
The store recovered a bit when the new permanent manager took over and I wad cool with him but he rubbed me the wrong way when I he told me "if warhammer is too expensive then you need a new hobby" I told him why that's just wrong thinking, left and never came back.
I've been there maybe twice in 5 years new manager but the store is almost always empty now.
“But I also know people in those sectors who are…quite nefarious in their sector” you can watch literal hours of content on RUclips about drama involving furries who turned out to be absolutely reprehensible. The majority of these are individuals that not even _the furries themselves_ want to deal with.
Here's how that prison ship segment would have gone at my table:
Russ: "nyeh-heh, I seal Mike in the corridor and blast him into space by opening the air lock!"
Me as the GM: "No you don't."
I had a simular experience. I used to play in the Tottenham Court Road store back in 7th edition.
Massive community, vet night ect.
I went up there last month and no games are played. I asked if they knew where games are played locally and none working there knew.
Games workshop is not the same anymore
True - this store should be a flag ship. Instead it is a dead space run by a git.
Ah, Tottenham Court Road... I was on vacation in London back in '05 (I think) and decided to pop in and get a box of Temple Guards for my friend's Lizardmen army as a souvenir. The clerk or whomever was at the till didn't want to sell them to me and tried to convince me to swap to playing Eldar in 40k instead. Insert me, a socially awkward 15 year old, trying to explain to him in my third language that no one I know plays 40k and that they are a gift to a friend and getting bullied by an employee for playing the wrong game and the wrong army. Avoided that store like the plague on my subsequent visits to London. Even to this day.
I'm an elder player and as a fantasy player I was elves and skaven but who thinks lizardmen are a "wrong" choice. They're awesome models even if you're only painting them.
@@incredibleflameboy I am personally of the mind that there is no such thing as a "wrong" choice. Especially when you are just playing garagehammer for fun with your friends.
@@Svana931 exactly. The game is supposed to be fun and we all play what we think is cool regardless of what other people think of it. I'm a big MtG player and I'm never playing the meta because I find the meta boring, I like thematic decks that express me as a person. Ok I might lose often but people are always commenting on how interesting my decks are because they do things people haven't seen before. In this case "you be you" is really important and no one will ever convince me otherwise.
@@incredibleflameboy I just find min-maxing boring as well. Usually. Sometimes it can be fun to see just how far you can push things, but I just grow bored with it real fast. I would rather just have fun or try new things. Even if I lose most of the time.
Doing thematic setups can be great fun. Hence why I love making terrain with my friends that suits the armies we are playing. Are the tables fair or balanced? Usually not. But are they fun to play? Oh absolutely! I just love running my Krieg forces through no man's land towards enemy trenches and watch them get mowed down and giggle while I keep on rolling 1's on everything.
@@Svana931 exactly as a kriegsman should be.
When I heard you talk about bad gw managers I had to feel something, I'm more than happy to hand off info but long and short of it, just pre COVID one of the local GW to me had a manager that lost a sale of a codex due to trying hell or high water to push me to pick up models first as he thought I was a beginner (I am not)
13:10 you still got that salesman’s drive north ;)
I was just going to say that! I'd but some models off him after that sales patter :D
10:20 More cheer in a graveyard - I love it ! ! !
The old Plaza store on Oxford Street was great (Top floor days in the late 80s), never the same when it moved to Tottenham Court Road.
12:31 GW and the lost art of SALES ! ! !
I would love to see JP in theaters again. The effects still hold up and it is just an S tier movie.
16:04 And GW manages to survive as long as they have ! ! !
I went to my local games work every Friday arvo for a while.
Playing 40k every Friday night against random people.
It was great.
I remember forgetting my codex once or twice. Store manager would just give me the store copy to use.
Saw Jurassic Park and Hook in the cinema the first time round. Sooooooooooooo good
Vampire the masquerade is a great game done right. But it does bring in some pretty seriously deviant "characters"
As a stoyteller, that is something i will not allow in my games with no exceptions. Boundries and veils are stated before each game and are strictly followed, and i have no qualms about kicking people to the curb if they act up.
Its within the storyteller / DMs purview to control events like this and to stop them from occuring so everyone can have a safe gaming environment and enjoy a good story. I havent quite finished the story yet but i hope that the storyteller had put his foot down eventually.
Fully agree on the Tottenham Court Road GW (or WARHAMMER) as it is now called.
I pop in remorselessly for model of the month and have bought like 3 pots of paint in total. I remember telling him that I wasn’t a fan of Primaris and where I think GW writing had gone wrong; but I am very smiley person it’s hard to be pissy with me, I think 😂😅
Dark Sphere and Magic Mad House for the win.
I think I come to the conclusion at the end that it was NOT TCR :) As the managers are different and also I did a boo boo and named a store...which I never want to do. Regardless - it wasn't TCR.
@@northernexile yeah I wrote it before the video was done.
I’ve been in the Tottenham Court Road ws for years and I’ve seen the same Spanish guy who is a nice guy and always recognises me even though I pop just to see the new models
Alfabusa got me interested in world of darkness so I’ve been thinking about trying vampire the masquerade lol
Did anyone else get an edvert the moment the 3 seconds of silence kick in ?!
5:00 Living the dream . 😀
I have an email to sent you about my experiences working at GW in the 90s, how can I find your email address? I'm not on discord... thanks 😅
It's in the description of the video
21:05 A clear difference between corperate drone and a business proprietor ! ! !
Your 3 seconds of silence.. caused an ad 😂
30 Years ? ! ? ! ? Christ ! ! !
always wanted to know what game is playing in the background? im still new to 40k and wanted to browse some of the video games when im not learning the table top game
The table top story. As a mildly seasoned GM, I would have booted this guy after talking to him once or twice. Especially if the rest of the group started getting uneasy. This is exactly the reason why I hold a small “post game council” just to make sure everything is fine. Good on the DM here for trying to rectify the situation. But if he did anything like that. I’m not sure how I would handle it in the moment
nothing is scarier than north saying, "i know who you are"
I didn't get bronys but then I had children who watched the show and I was like "damn this isn't half bad".
Now they don't get to see my kids anymore 😂
8:39 Simple, bring back Old World .
“They will find a way” corperate finds a way.
I worked at a university bookshop for a few years, and the idea that you arent allowed to look through a book before buying it is totally bewildering to me. If i knew they wouldnt really need the book butjust a few pages i even advisedthem to go to the library and copy them, thats totally within copyright. sounds stupid? Guess where these guys bought their books from for the rest of their student years
These thumbnails are 🔥🔥🔥
If I'm considering putting together a new army, and wondering what core units I should buy to fill things out, and you don't let me look at a Codex to figure out what suits my playstyle? See if I even actually like the faction at all? Yeah, fuck you, I'm buying somewhere else.
Is that a modified version of Dev's (ShortFatOtaku) avatar in the thumbnail?
Im going to have to dust a channel insult off the shelf for that manager.... What a spurgey bastard!
That's some solid GM:ing in such a situation.
Long live VDR 1,2, 3 and Plays as rules, and white dwarf plans and upgrades / conversions, lol.
24:51 I have seen big and tall dressed well and did well.
6:32 Lay low. 😃
17:26 Rules are made to be BROKEN ! ! !
Traveller RPG rocks 🎉
Whats the game being played in the background?
i think its chaos gate daemonhunters
You can choose to not judge people for playing AoS, i can. We'll see how well it does with TOW finally out
I was about to do the "le not all furries are the same" bit because well, im clearly a furry who likes to think im pretty normal heh but right when I went to type it out you mentioned being lonely as one of the "broken" aspects of us and I immediately said out loud "FUCK, thats me" lol
Man, these stories are great. Have a sub and a like.
what about us who make things or scratch build because not a lot of money or just want to mix it up and have different stuff on the table. we have lost a lot of players and hobbiest due to GW snobbs. they wont let scratch builders even play in some spots. i been playing since 1990 here in the states. its sad to see the art for and imagination lost in some cases. lot of nightmares in this sunject here in the US.
Officially subscribed 💣💣💣
I could sell you loads of stuff, but it's more important to me to make you feel uncomfortable and unwanted. That's my idea of what a store manager does, and Games Workshop loves how low much this mentality helps keep operating costs down. No plastic for you, I'm the games Nazi. 😂
6:50 😂😂😂 that dude has an irony deficiency. Jesus dude...self awareness is important.
Either most DMs are such pushovers if these types of stories are taken at face value…
Nothing against you but these stories where it’s one person saying another person was that guy, always have matching themes every single time. They are like creepy pastas. It’s always a person who is outwardly degenerate, doesnt wear deodorant, is a furry, claims they’re an incel, rapey stalker vibes etc.
and while I definitely know for a fact these people exist, there’s far more stories than seems plausible. It’s damaging to any game that these stories are over saturated and exaggerating. Seriously according to these stories everyone will encounter a “that guy” and they are just allowed to do these egregious social taboos and bad behavior, yet time and time again these stories they just let this behavior go til a screaming match months down the road? Bullshit, I guarantee you half these stories or more are somebody just giving their side of things and it’s likely them and the person in the story were problems for the group cuz it makes more sense that a DM wouldn’t want to kick two people, but the fact all these stories are somehow one person is a problem and is allowed to play and stay with the group until something extreme happens. It always comes off as unbelievable to me. I’m a DM for D&D and I’ve never dealt with someone half this bad, and if you act any way like that and make no changes within a game session you’re out of my game. Therefore these stories are unbelievable to me, and if true the DM is to blame for not removing the problem and allowing them to ruin the game. Worst of all This is damaging to potential new players who will be inclined to avoid the community because these countless negative, sorry to sound so disregarding, but fan fiction.
*waits for 3rd Legion / Fulgrim content*
GW need to really stop being so precious over the codex. Free rules resources exist all over the internet and on apps. If you want to read the store copy of the codex why not honestly
Love content
Ooh, careful... If you've not watched Hook since you were young, I'd recommend sticking to your fond memories and avoiding it! I watched it recently, about 25+ years after last seeing it and it was fucking wank.
I was thinking similar thoughts, lol.
It's a terrible film. What were they thinking making it 100% studio-bound? Honestly the only saving grace is the soundtrack, which is brilliant.
@@vorebiz was it really? Tbh the sets etc weren't bad, it's just a bad film imo. Could just be cos it's really dated now!
Nice listens I'm support 9/10 takes you have. I do thi know you will figure out how to pick you rants better.
It's Math* test in the most important country in the world. But yeah correct him again ;D
Engagement
When it comes to 'furries', i think it's just a case of horses for courses (sorry- i couldn't resist making that pun)
Hold on there, let's not forget to include the anime people as well. They might on first glance not be as overtly depraved as the other two groups but quite similar to left wing extremists, they are by far the most dangerous of the bunch because their antics have become more socially accepted during the last couple decades.
Making an off handed reference to your favorite waifu smut at my table will always mean the first strike, if you show any further signs of deviancy you'll be kicked from the group, no further questions. Keep the trash out.
For the Algorithm!
the furries at the store I go to,tend to stink really really bad. x,.,x
*Math. It’s singular.
Just like how y’all say bayamoth (behemoth)
Lefttenant (Lieutenant)
Potato you pronounce right, but then say tomotto (tomato)
Don’t correct people on their English, it was y’all who changed your pronunciations and accents after losing the Revolution.
I’m picking on you by the way.
A real reddit moment.
@@IronCrownFromtheNorth consume dental hygiene products at a slightly higher rate than third world countries too.
Mathematics is not singular, its plural.
Mathematic is a word, but not in that context
You're the ones who changed the pronunciation after you seceded from the kingdom because certain words couldn't roll off your tongue due to your accents
@@theophrastusbombastus1359 no actually the British common folk adopted the dialect of the snobby royalty after the revolution to differentiate themselves from the people that embarrassed them on the world stage. “Maths” is not a word. Nice try though.
It's 'math'.
You don't say 'histories' or 'readings' class.
Same concept
Look up kero the wolf and his gang if you want to know how awful furries are.
MATH no s.
Reminded: Math** tests saved you from Germany. 😉
The red army storming through Eastern Europe did that
In the States its Math.
Its math not maths, we dont say histories to refer to history class.
You lot call it 'mathematic'?
8:47 dude. People play a game because they like the game. How should they react when some feckless Jabroni changes everything about it?
"No man is free who is not master of himself." -Epictetus. (keep up the good work.)