Nice to see you guys here on YT! I definitely agree that with any tool what matters most is how you use it, and lots of that depends on your personality. I resonate with Angus view on logbooks. I don't really react negatively to non-sends, unless I make mistakes, in which case any negative emotion serves me as extra motivation to remember important detail and improve. I also really appreciate looking back, remembering special days and experiences. My main climbing partner, however, is very competitive, gets performance anxiety and reacts very negatively to failure. From a performance standpoint it works until it doesn't and has huge consequences on his overall experience climbing, especially on a trip. For him, an onsight can be very important, with big consequences depending on the outcome, and in that sense, having a logbook can seem quite detrimental, from my perspective, as it puts pressure on every climb. On the other hand, he has a tick list to complete as many easy climbs as possible, which seems quite rewarding for him, without much "risk". I think we have to assess the risks and rewards on a personal basis, and part of that is learning from each other, and maybe asking our close friends and partners about what they see in us that we might not see ourselves :) Happy climbing everyone!
It's great that you're reflecting on all this and talking about it - that's the main thing. And then if either of you would like to learn more about how mindset can affect performance (maybe especially your partner) I highly reccomend our webinar 😊 go.strongmindclimbing.com/webinar
For me a log book is a great way to see if I allow myself to go out of my comfort zone. If I see that over the curse of time I don't try harder or different styles then Im in the zone. By having logged all my past trips I can better prepare and set new goals for the future ones
I keep a small logbook in an Excel sheet, mostly for alpine climbs. I do not see much of a point logging every single sport route, although that could be easily done. The big advantage of having this as an Excel sheet over an online version is that any online service might just shut down at some point in the future. How do you get your data out of it? Probably only by spending an evening retyping everything in another logbook with an uncertain future.
I used to get really worked up about logging my climbs on UKC. I went through a several year period of really struggling mentally with climbing and am only just coming out of it now after a year and half of focusing on mind set and headspace. When I was struggling I'd worry that I'd have to log things as "did not finish" again and I felt ashamed. I stopped logging climbs for several years. I now have a much better relationship with climbing, have my log book set to private and don't log whether I fell, or dogged or flashed the route etc as it's a record of my journey rather than my "achievements"
Thanks for sharing this. Shame is a negative emotion that comes up frequently with things like log books and becomes a toxic motivator. It's great you noticed this and made changes
Great video, thank you for sharing your knowledge guys! I am curious as you are top level climbers, how often would you do practice falls? Every session or only occasionally?
We fall most sessions but these falls are 'natural falls', if for some reason we're not falling much, we'll do an intentional practice. Since fear of falling doesn't limit us much, we don't find we need structured fall practice - but this is what we'd advise if fear of falling limited your climbing 😊
Your videos remind me of the format of some of The School of Life videos by uk philosopher alain de botton. some charming humor, personality, and low-fi not over-produced storytelling and video essays essentially
What about a written, more private of the privatest logbook ever? Just a notebook that only I can read, might that help reducing the anxiety a logbook can add? Thanks for the video!
Yes I think this is helpful, especially if you include more than just what you did but also add in how you felt, maybe your performance state and also what you learnt. I thnk of this as more of a journal 😊
We might do something on this but the reality is that there is a lot more to learn about fall practice which is why we have a whole online course on it. If you're not already sign up to our newsletter where you can hear more about what we do but mainly you'll receive interesting emails called our 'thought of the week' 😊 courses.strongmindclimbing.com/newsletter
Just finished watching the Nat Geo Arctic expedition, you are a bad ass, finishing that climb with Alex was so impressive. How bummed was Mikey that he didn't finish the climb? lol
Thanks! It was a great experience. I don't think he was bummed, he knew what he was doing when he made the decision and that was the best decision for him 😊
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Really enjoyed the video - and the funny little moments were a hoot (the look Hazel gave Angus when he said ‘try get your body closer to the wall’ 😂)
Nice to see you guys here on YT! I definitely agree that with any tool what matters most is how you use it, and lots of that depends on your personality. I resonate with Angus view on logbooks. I don't really react negatively to non-sends, unless I make mistakes, in which case any negative emotion serves me as extra motivation to remember important detail and improve. I also really appreciate looking back, remembering special days and experiences. My main climbing partner, however, is very competitive, gets performance anxiety and reacts very negatively to failure. From a performance standpoint it works until it doesn't and has huge consequences on his overall experience climbing, especially on a trip. For him, an onsight can be very important, with big consequences depending on the outcome, and in that sense, having a logbook can seem quite detrimental, from my perspective, as it puts pressure on every climb. On the other hand, he has a tick list to complete as many easy climbs as possible, which seems quite rewarding for him, without much "risk". I think we have to assess the risks and rewards on a personal basis, and part of that is learning from each other, and maybe asking our close friends and partners about what they see in us that we might not see ourselves :)
Happy climbing everyone!
It's great that you're reflecting on all this and talking about it - that's the main thing. And then if either of you would like to learn more about how mindset can affect performance (maybe especially your partner) I highly reccomend our webinar 😊 go.strongmindclimbing.com/webinar
For me a log book is a great way to see if I allow myself to go out of my comfort zone. If I see that over the curse of time I don't try harder or different styles then Im in the zone. By having logged all my past trips I can better prepare and set new goals for the future ones
I keep a small logbook in an Excel sheet, mostly for alpine climbs. I do not see much of a point logging every single sport route, although that could be easily done. The big advantage of having this as an Excel sheet over an online version is that any online service might just shut down at some point in the future. How do you get your data out of it? Probably only by spending an evening retyping everything in another logbook with an uncertain future.
I used to get really worked up about logging my climbs on UKC. I went through a several year period of really struggling mentally with climbing and am only just coming out of it now after a year and half of focusing on mind set and headspace. When I was struggling I'd worry that I'd have to log things as "did not finish" again and I felt ashamed. I stopped logging climbs for several years. I now have a much better relationship with climbing, have my log book set to private and don't log whether I fell, or dogged or flashed the route etc as it's a record of my journey rather than my "achievements"
Thanks for sharing this. Shame is a negative emotion that comes up frequently with things like log books and becomes a toxic motivator. It's great you noticed this and made changes
Thank you so much for making this channel, it is really helpful!!
Where I live, logbooks are a great way of sharing information about when climbs are in condition (e.g. dry).
yes this is really handy
Great video, thank you for sharing your knowledge guys! I am curious as you are top level climbers, how often would you do practice falls? Every session or only occasionally?
We fall most sessions but these falls are 'natural falls', if for some reason we're not falling much, we'll do an intentional practice. Since fear of falling doesn't limit us much, we don't find we need structured fall practice - but this is what we'd advise if fear of falling limited your climbing 😊
Your videos remind me of the format of some of The School of Life videos by uk philosopher alain de botton. some charming humor, personality, and low-fi not over-produced storytelling and video essays essentially
I'll take that as a compliment - thanks!
What about a written, more private of the privatest logbook ever? Just a notebook that only I can read, might that help reducing the anxiety a logbook can add? Thanks for the video!
Yes I think this is helpful, especially if you include more than just what you did but also add in how you felt, maybe your performance state and also what you learnt. I thnk of this as more of a journal 😊
Fall practice on trad has been super valuable for me, could you please make a video on how to do so safely.
We might do something on this but the reality is that there is a lot more to learn about fall practice which is why we have a whole online course on it. If you're not already sign up to our newsletter where you can hear more about what we do but mainly you'll receive interesting emails called our 'thought of the week' 😊 courses.strongmindclimbing.com/newsletter
Such a cracking team and love seeing you pregnant Hammy !
ha! thanks Tim - bit of a change isn't it!
Just finished watching the Nat Geo Arctic expedition, you are a bad ass, finishing that climb with Alex was so impressive. How bummed was Mikey that he didn't finish the climb? lol
Thanks! It was a great experience. I don't think he was bummed, he knew what he was doing when he made the decision and that was the best decision for him 😊
Hello, I know you made your RUclips video thumbnails from Fiverr, but if you don't do SEO your video won't do well, I have seen your video. Your content is very good. But as it is not SEO friendly, you are not getting targeted views, so subscriptions are not increasing. Seen some more issues
with your channel recharge. Your videos are not seo, the title, and description are not channel-related seo and your channel is not promoted due to lack of proper seo your videos are not appearing in search results, professional SEO is expected to give good results, and you will benefit. I am waiting for your response.