Why the US doesn’t have universal child care (anymore)
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2022
- Other rich countries have family policies the US doesn’t.
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Every other high-income country in the world has a paid maternity leave policy. Most have a paternity leave policy, too. And usually some form of universal or subsidized child care for all families. The United States has… none of these policies.
It did have federally-funded child care once. And Congress even passed a universal child care policy in the 70s. But today, the US is stuck on a policy path of welfare and tax credits. So… why hasn’t the US been able to establish these common family policies?
The Promise of Preschool is a great dive into the history of child care policy in the US if you want to read more: oxford.universitypressscholar...
And Anna Danziger Halperin’s research on the US and UK policies is fascinating: academiccommons.columbia.edu/...
The OECD has put together profiles on almost every rich country and their child policies, look up yours: www.oecd.org/education/school...
And UNICEF put together a great report on where rich countries stand with child care policies. The US is number 40 - out of 41.) gdc.unicef.org/resource/where...
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You could make a permanent series based on US 'why doesn't have'
Well atleast they have 'freedom' /s
@@DyslexicMitochondria so do most other first world countries, it’s not really special anymore
And the reason usually involves the words “because politics”
Seriously, they need to do this
@@DyslexicMitochondria /srs
I always find it very odd that we have such a strong pro-life “all life is precious, abortion is murder” societal faction that also thinks universal childcare is a giant leap toward communism.
Yes, it's so strange that such "pro-life" lobbyists consistently deems those same babies to be essentially welfare queens upon birth, undeserving of taxpayer support.
2 completely different things! 1 - The person CHOOSE to get pregnant // 2 - Taxpayers cannot CHOOSE to pay universal childcare (that would be the equivalent of having someone pay for YOUR choices).
I believe poor people deserve free assistance with childcare. Parents get to work and contribute back in to the system. Abortion is murder and poor families deserve help
It's not pro-life. Just pro-birth.
@@titus_philemon Then the men need to be charged. How much per month should they be held responsible? Can we actually lock up the men who don't support their children? Can we rat them out to neighbors and get $10k? Once we hold our men as responsible as women, we can talk. You all get away with literal murder.
Shock of shocks that Phyllis Schlafly had something to do with this... she was just the worst
And don’t forget the wicked witch of the UK
@@flamingpi2245 Of course... but Thatcher was an elected official. Schlafly tried to become one, thankfully falling short in her efforts.
@@flamingpi2245 What do you mean? She spearheaded universal child care. They even meantion it in the video: 6:27
@@8is no they didn’t. She left in 1990 before the universal child care.
@@subotaiKhan It didn't pass, but Thatcher was for it.
I mean even if you take a conservative stance, children shouldn't be responsible for being poor.
No but they should be a burden/consequence to their parents (their opinion - not mine). I find it ironic the conservatives prioritize family centered ideals but then refuse to increase wages to allow such things as stay at home parents. There's a lot of incentive to not have children in the US. It's becoming just another luxury item.
The right loves the fetus, but hates the child, and the mom, and the middle class.
@Mekehl Meritocracy is one of the things tearing this country apart. What you're implying is exactly the thing that hurts children and feeds the cycle of poverty. Please consider the consequences of your beliefs. Good people are born to awful circumstances everyday and that attitude is what ruins their lives.
@Mekehl so only people with money should have kids?
@@clueless_cutie "Meritocracy is one of the things tearing this country apart."
Americans are hilarious.😂
Really surprised that it is decades ago when paternity leave was established in Japan.
Though, few father take it.
Yeah, paid leave and days off is also taken less on Japan so I heard due to their work culture socially stigmatizing people to not take them.
Could be related to the idea that at employers that have unlimited vacation days, people are less likely to actually take time off. Human nature is so interesting when it comes to this sorta thing.
@Zaydan Naufal Plaza Accords don't have much to do with it. Japan slowdown is mostly due to the end of the technology catchup with the west, active pop decline, and many sectors of the economy being subpar in productivity (despite the work culture the dozen giants that became worldwide companies). Sans monetary reevaluation, China is heading in the exact same direction for that matter.
What's sad is we will be having this conversation 20 years from now. It will never be implemented federally, just like healthcare or education. OMG, I can't even imagine tuition costs 20 years from now! 😳
If colleges are even still around by then, maybe the millenials in charge will stop abusing federally subsidized student loans as a racket
People can just use private daycares, and get jobs to pay for them
@@danielsokolov4821 oh wow. Geniuse! What's next, people want air? And it cost 100K each time to breath. They should just work and pay for it.
What I'm saying is. People wouldn't mind paying for it if the cost wasn't inflated. Also the caretakers are underpaid, understaffed and unsupervised.
Weird how all of that didn't happen when it was universally available
@@danielsokolov4821 "Just don't be poor" is an argument that continues to perplex me in how removed from reality it is.
@@supergamergrill7734 I agree that we should privatize air. With climate change, and China outcompeting the West, were gonna need something to hold over the heads of the developing world.
I also wouldn't mind if the government taxed me for child care, as long as the Government fully got rid of it's other welfare programs to pay for it.
Why is any of this surprising? In America, selfishness and greed are virtues, while kindness equals weakness.
Why does everything have to do with America ? Why does negative thigs have to be reflected in America there are other countries right I just seem not too understand why Internet refects every worst things on America? Why does the internet hate America like Justin Bieber in early 2010s and twilight?
@Carpe Diem why only Americans it exists in Europeans countries too and just so you know Frnech Germans they also have high rude people approaching to the tourists why don’t the internet bash them and ironically Americans are more welcoming than them lol
If people were paid accordingly to a single income earner for a home than a spouse wouldn't need to pay someone else's parent to raise their child. Children should be raised at home by their own parent.
@@Jkp1321 Thats a great way for them to learn to socialise
@@Zoykzmc parents can do that on their own with their children. That's the point of having some sort of community like a church
Many don't realize that many of the policies that stick around were not supposed to
There's nothing more permanent than temporary government programs.
Like tax increases.
@@zaknelthepony7124 Like taxes*
Listen, to make things simple, every time we have to ask "Why The US did this or that" the answer is because the whole country is a business, thats why, and in a business you do everything for money, while in other countries some things are done because they make sense
...or they're good for the society
America is an Empire every empire is disastrous and controversial and surrounded by greed to keep The Empire Still strong and that’s the reason why Every Empire falls
Actually, an universal child care system is good for the economy. A study have shown that the universal childcare system helped in 2008 (so 10 years after its implementation) 70,000 mothers to return on the job market which means an increase of 1,78% in employment and 5.1 billion dollars in GDP. For each dollar invested by the government in its program, they have a return of $1.20 in taxes.
Oh! and a quality childcare system also increase the high school graduation which leads to a decrease in poverty, unemployment, violence. All things that generate benefits for the society and the economy.
@@anne12876 I once read this, but I cannot find it anymore, how could I google it, or do you have the source?
@@oscaralejandrotorresaguila5886 This data comes from studies from Pierre Fortin, Professor in Economy on the childcare system in Quebec, Canada which started in 1997.
If you google "Pierre Fortin CPE" or "Pierre Fortin child care", you'll find his studies.
“We live in the greatest country on earth” except we don’t have access to even the most basic of universal safety nets when everyone else in our peer countries do 🙃
I wonder if that is part of the problem. If you've been taught from a very young age that you live in the greatest country on earth, and saying otherwise is utterly unacceptable in society, how does that not raise extra hurdles on the path to actually becoming that great country? That's without even talking about the multitudes of extra hurdles that go up if a policy or law can be traced back to the founding of the US, no matter how flawed that policy or law may be.
@@rjfaber1991 it totally is - with that kind of messaging from birth, you basically grow up in a sea of cognitive dissonance. It's tough to question stuff that is so normal, so many never do, and nothing changes.
If people were paid accordingly to a single income earner for a home than a spouse wouldn't need to pay someone else's parent to raise their child. Children should be raised at home by their own parent.
@@rjfaber1991 agreed
@@Jkp1321 just one parent? In my country kids have two parents and they are raised by both.
It is gameover when the rich don't want it... they have the money to prevent it from ever happening
Do America is problematic country lol
The rich just move to Monaco or other tax free environments, so they can use the money they've earned to take care of their kids instead of being duped into giving their money to a government that won't.
what the heck?
wouldn't the rich want it because it means that instead of staying home with a baby, the woman works for them instead and makes them more money?
“We’ll I hear it gets kinda hot around the kitchen stove” is iconic
Even universal PAID family leave is “controversial” politically in this country… and that’s just not right.
If people were paid accordingly to a single income earner for a home than a spouse wouldn't need to pay someone else's parent to raise their child. Children should be raised at home by their own parent.
@@Jkp1321 I don't understand what's so hard about this, this is how we survived for centuries
@@DrewryENT muh equality
@@DrewryENT Except we are not in the antebellum era, the Middle Ages,the Dark Ages or even the Imperial Age. We are in the modern era. If nations like Ghana, India, Kenya and Egypt can afford paid family leave, so can the United States.
We believe in INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM in this country and do not like imposing things on private citizens no matter 'the greater good.'
that $8/day is approx $250/month, which is STILL insanely low compared to childcare today, even here in Canada.
my mom was born in 1965, I was born in 1994. I'm the same age my mom was when she had me.
my mother was paying roughly $200/month in the late 90s for daycare for me ($250 in 1995 is worth $461.20 today). Average daycares in 2019 in Toronto, where i grew up, is $1440/month. What tf happened between the 90s and today for this massive jump in the same timeframe (28 years)?
Trying to find daycare at $500/month is impossible, unless you look at unregulated home daycares.
people wonder why my generation isn't having kids. why would we?
Where I work charges that a week
There're plans right now for Canada to have an universal childcare system at 10$/day or less throughout the country (Ontario is the only juridiction that hasn't signed yet a deal with Ottawa). Let's see where it goes and how it will end up. Maybe there'll be daycare at 200$/month but probably not enough for the demand.
$1440 per month is a bargain, daycares in Sydney charge $100-$140 per day
I think it's more an Ontario problem not having subsidized daycare. Here in QC like 75% of daycare capacity is a way or another subsidized to the 8.50$/day. But we have the problem of insufficient capacity and staff shortage for the moment.
It costs around 330€/month in Oslo Norway because there is price control. I think it should be free.
Why is the US compared with wealthy nations? Based on these videos, it seems like a poor country to me.
It mismanages its wealth.
It has the highest gdp of any nation
because it is one of the wealthiest nations? lol
It's absolutely hilarious how ppl think Americans are actually "Poor", their poorness is nothing compared to real life poverty across other nations. It's just financial mismanagements
The country is wealthy. Its people are mostly not, relatively speaking.
"Factory work is usually no more difficult than housework"
In the days before automated appliances, yep.
Arguably factory work was easier because you knew what you had to do every day and could do it the same way for 40 years. House work on the other hand, juggling the emotions of unique children, dealing with catty neighbors and feeding the family all require critical thinking skills in a way that an entry level job on an assembly line does not.
@@ConnerOfRS At least that sounds like a more interesting life than monotonous day-to-day labor for 40 years.
Well hasn’t factory work also become very automated so its like evened out
@@ConnerOfRS That was sarcasm, right?
@@Lepidopterous. i mean id rather not do much and get paid than constantly take care of anklebiters and burning food… but i like being bored more so than stressed! Even if it means the day feels longer i suppose!
This country could afford a huge military budget, but couldn't afford a child care for their citizens
America’s priority is oppression overseas don’ cha know
Why does the US need such a relatively large military budget compared to its military? ...Because it's money laundering for the wealthy.
@@JD-qq8fz Most of that military budget pays for engineers and scientists. Plus we are the world police, we would all be speaking Chinese right now if it weren't for the US
@@Chris-rg6nm lol I hope you were being sarcastic when you said we are the world police because otherwise that would just be adorable
@@Chris-rg6nm us talking chinese is highly unlikely even if the US didn’t exist
Even in Mexico we have paid maternity leave and free childcare up to age 4
Have you read a book called the defecit myth?
If you look at the map of maternity leave in Google image, every country on earth at least has 4 week of maternity leave, except 6 countries, which includes US (the other 5 includes Micronesia and Papua New Guinea)
@@Williammm67 in PNG maternity leave would probably increase witch killings haha
It is not free. It is paid with your tax dollars.
The lack of universal childcare needs to be put in context - the U.S. has no mandated paid leave for *anything*. No paid vacation, no paid holidays, no paid sick days. There is also no universal elder care, and getting affordable health insurance outside of being employed is practically impossible.
So the fact that there's no mandated paid parental leave or universal childcare is not an anomaly. It's part of a broader policy pattern in the U.S.
Those things are not "rights", as much as the left may want them to be.
You're literally just making an accurate observation without providing an argument as to why that is good or bad.
FreedomToons has made a great video explaining this
I was hoping to find the obligatory, "I'm a brilliant intellectual" in the comments, but did not. But I'm glad there are viewers that still make it known what brought them to these videos.
@@db9944 Hello, my fellow brilliant intellectuals.
came here right after the video to find other brilliant intellectuals!
I'm also a brilliant intellectual
I am a troglodyte
He was worried if would lead to "communal raising of children?" But that's how it's done. The whole it takes a village thing. Yeah, my parents raised me but our neighbors were part of it too. They would talk with may parents about what my sister and I did. And they had no problem chewing us out when we needed it. And my parents returned the favor with the neighbors' kids. That's how community works.
then why do we need the government to do it if it's a community thing?
@@DrewryENT Not every family has that community. Basically it comes down to how much you value children in our society. The rationale is that children and families are a net positive to society, therefore they should have support even when they lack opportunity or a built in support structure.
@@hurricaneofcats But how do you encourage families and in-wedlock children without also generating single mothers and out-of-wedlock children?
@@marlonmoncrieffe0728 I'm not sure I follow what you are trying to ask. Are you assuming that universal childcare would create more single parents? There is demand for affordable childcare among both double and single parent families for a lot of reasons. Imo childcare policies should be available for the benefit of all children, regardless of their parenting situation.
@@hurricaneofcats Not so much create as so much as make women have even less regard for having kids in wedlock.
I've always felt like the US is a country that's just stuck in the past. Around the end of WW2, they were probably on par/ahead of most other countries with a lot of their policies. But since 1945 i don't think allot of progress has really been made, while most other countries are and have been changing rapidly. (Probably due to the age-old socialism vs capitalism mindset I bet)
To really start progressing again I think American citizens need to realize that to be "great again" is not to go back to the way it was, but to be implementing new ground-breaking policies again.
Excellent insight!
@@mrbyzantine0528 1945 was around the time filibusters became more popular
That is because while Europe was rebuilding after WW2 and striving to meet the future goals later outlined in the declaration of human rights; the US was experiencing a boom from being the only surviving economy and felt no need to change before moving rightwards due to the red scare and civic backlash. This was an era of transition that eventually lead to a backlash under Nixon and Reagan that created the economically regressive government we have today.
WW2 was a major turning point in the US since the south had in large part kept slavery intact under the peonage system from the civil war until then; the federal government required more fodder for the war effort and finally enforced anti peonage laws to get them. At the end of the war those trained black veterans returned to the US and started agitating for equal rights, what's more they had friends in those they had served with both at home and abroad.
The civil rights act was passed but resulted in a conservative backlash on all fronts with many previous supporters of economic progressive policies switching to economic conservative or regressive policies to keep from helping or even hurt blacks. On the social front this came to a head with the war on drugs directly targeting blacks and anti war protestors and has lead to a renewal of the convict leasing system in house under the for profit prison systems.
Building on this along with the red scare Reagan built the economically regressive trickle down government we have today that has been slowly working to undo the gains from the labor movement and return us to the gilded age; when people were but cheap fungible cogs in the capitalists machine to be replaced and thrown out if damaged ('Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.' I'm running low on whole worker cogs).
a lot of it has to do with de-segregation.
@e93 In crime, in teenage pregnancy, in unvaccinated deaths, in racism, in deaths under in the influence...so yeah, they are ahead all right.
“It’ll blow a hole in the budget!”
- conservatives
BUT WE MUST HAVE A TRILLION DOLLAR DEFENSE BUDGET!!
Stop it, you cant be everywhere
that's why the US is so eager for Ukraine-Russia war to happen
Pure capitalism is a different experience for people with different wealth. It helps rich stay rich and limits poor by keeping them poor. The golden way is to live in capitalistic democracy with implementatary socialism. Do you ever wonder why no one is arguing for firefighters to be privatized? It's a well paid public service. So why health care can't be the same? College?
Self interest. Same reason why COVID shots are free but insulin shots aren't. Anyone could randomly catch COVID. You can't randomly "catch" diabetes. Anyone's house could catch fire and it could spread far and wide and fairly quickly just by a change in wind direction. Therefore it must be dealt with quickly there. Childcare is viewed as a personal issue not a social need.
Selfishness wins! Typical conservative view. Until I need it or understand the potential impact on me, I DON'T CARE!
I agree with healthcare and I think prisons should also be run by the government and not privatized. I don’t think college should be. College was never meant for everyone and it will make 4 year degrees even more irrelevant then they already are.
Capitalism in general is the problem
@@winning246 why education isn't meant for every body? How about a paid subscription for human rights, like an insurance? Just imagine the opening of two free high education establishments in US where you pay only for a paper work of admission. Purely merit based acceptance. How big the impact will be? Try to think how motivated people would be to get in there and the result of that competition. It'll be another Yale and another one more.
@@winning246 just have both
maybe they should do a study on how lack of child care or working mothers led to the high crimes waves of the 90's. Those children with no direction found themselves involved in criminal activities which then increased our prisons which then increased the wealth of certain individuals who profited off their privatized prison systems. See there's always a reason.
Didnt crime start to fall in the mid-90s? And no one is 100 percent sure why?
Mixture of abortion being legal and less lead in the environment is the best hypothesis.
Pretty sure the fatherless rates of the 60s-80s and general social degeneration led to that, not working mothers mate
Yes, but also "high crimes" were often just petty crimes. I recommend watching the 13th Amendment on Netflix to learn more
If people were paid accordingly to a single income earner for a home than a spouse wouldn't need to pay someone else's parent to raise their child. Children should be raised at home by their own parent.
I’m sure none of this would of happened if the radical groups heavily promoted feminism saying they can and should work the same jobs as guys because “being home is bad and makes you weak” when they can actually be at the comfort of their home taking care of their children. Thank radicalism along with people with terrible financial decisions
And this country also doesn’t have a uniformed parental leave with huge differences between states
I'd like to add upon this that this path was taken not just by RICH countries, but by many others as well. Socialism isn't communism. Care isn't a misuse of your taxes.
Those countries are capitalist, universal child care and healthcare and stuff like that are not socialist policies
"If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together." We are social and communal beings; that's how we survived all these years. We should remind ourselves that from time to time.
@@idontmakecontent4870 Government-provided services are socialist services, and there is nothing wrong with that. Social Security is a socialist policy (one without which I would be dead.) Capitalism and socialist policies are not mutually exclusive. As the upward poster said: "Socialism isn't communism."
@@AaronLitz Did I say there was anything wrong with that, kiddo? No. The facts are that they're not socialist policies when capitalist countries frequently practice them and have for decades
@@idontmakecontent4870 is not called Capitalistic Security for a reason.
Why do people compare third world countries like the USA to first world countries like Canada, Japan, Sweden, South africa, etc
USA is third world really wow I’m shooked
By definition the us is a first world country
USA markets itself as a first world nation but it is the least developed, developed nation of all.
I didn't even know we had this policy at one time in our history, no wonder people are scared to teach history in the USA.
@@JohnM-sw4sc why are you guys so obsessed with the nuclear family?
@@JohnM-sw4sc so I take it you did not know about this policy either, thank you for admitting it. I never asked if it was a war time policy, I just stated I did not know about this, and apparently you did not know about it either. On the nuclear family aspect, no Its the idealized version of Western European family structure. Good bye
If they did the people will demand it
@@JohnM-sw4sc by stealing resources from everywhere else
USA:
If it's not for profit, it's not worth it.
Taking the child out of the home to be raised by a government entity while both parents work is extremely profitable to the US.
governments profit greatly by taking women out of cultural work in the home and get them into monetizable work. I'm more interested in raising children, no GDP.
For families it certainly can be game over. I had to resign my job of the past 7 years this week because I don’t have reliable/affordable childcare. Like with most programs my family needs, we make too much to qualify for help, but not enough to afford it on our own.
Thats your problem for not planning to have children and saving money for it. We don't have to pay for you poor financial skills.
@@guilhermepicolloduarte8110 I want to see this same energy once the birth rate drops to below replacement and you’re suddenly shocked why many immigrants are coming to the US to make up for the labour shortage caused by people not wanting to have babies. Do you even know how much having a baby costs in healthcare costs, or the cost of childcare today? I would rethink your bold statement and its implications
@@PeppaPigTTR None of that will affect me since i have my money.
@@PeppaPigTTR Its not my problem and if you want to have kids you should make money first and stop blaming society and forcing people to pay for your bad decisions.
@@guilhermepicolloduarte8110 I am grateful I do not have to pay for your grammatical mistakes. I am curious what mistakes you’re assuming I made? I have a feeling you’re making a great number of assumptions about my life to make you feel better about yourself.
Because the government shouldn't have any say as to how I raise my children. I don't want any of their money.
This
Exactly. If someone wants to drop their kid off at daycare and give their life to some soulless corporation they absolutely have every right to but they have no right to force anyone else into that lifestyle.
Bruh it's universal childcare not mandatory childcare 💀
@@malariagamingIf you are willing to let your kids be raised by complete strangers instead of yourself then you are the kind of person who shouldn’t be having kids.
@@thelastminuteman7513 I think a parent does not have the right to throw their child's life away, but rather a responsibility to raise and care for them
A small group of Americans have convinced another group of Americans to vote and act against their own interests for decades.
Political party’s were a mistake. Yet again political parties also helped end slavery so who knows.
By Americans we all me Jews right?
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 I dont think that Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram, The Koch brothers, The Mercers, The Coors, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Phylis Schafly to just name a few are Jewish.
what we should be doing instead is reversing back to the time when a family only needed one breadwinner so the other could be free to raise the children and tend to the home
That'll only happen when certain people stop treating homes as economic assets. OH! And kick out all the illegal immigrants... by any means.
What about single-parent households?
For my work, I came from overseas and I discovered America is a third world country in many aspects. Some South Americans country are socially more advanced than US. Is shocking see how Americans don't get it
Trust me, most Americans are disgusted at these policies and want them to change. It’s just a loud vocal minority who is against paid leave, universal healthcare, etc. but they are extremely out of touch from reality and tend to be selfish and opinionated people who do not understand how the real world has changed and how it works today
I live in america and it feels like a tragedy sometimes.
@@PeppaPigTTR has nothing to do with that, has to do with power. poor have no power, we lack strong labor unions.
Childcare should ideally come from the home. Instead of advocating for both parents to work, we should advocate for families to only need one bread winner.
This
@@MamaMOB not all parents are good man
Exactly! Based.
Used to be that one person could earn enough to provide for a family. Now with fiat currency, inflation has eroded the purchasing power to the point that it takes two to earn a living. And sometimes that is not even enough.
@@Travinobabino ain't just that. Wages don't keep up cause we don't have unions. That way of life came from an organized labor movement, it had to be fought for. Maybe someday we have that again
I'll take " ghost of the red scare " for $500
Huh. I feel like this is one of the only times I can't just shake my fist and shout "Reagaaaaaan!"
Man I love every problem in the us revolves about race.
Race, power, and control were foundational to the creation of the US
About the study of racial impact on systems (CRT)...
@@zinaj9437 "crt" isnt actually a thing actually tought in schools. It's an optional post graduate program in a handful of universities. Unfortunately consirvatives are using it as an excuse to ban the teaching of any history that paints the US in a negative light. Stuff like slavery or jim crow
@@grimaffiliations3671 it should be banned nevertheless
@@miliba Why should offering a different point of view be banned? It seems really weird to be so attached to such an insignificant issue.
I'm from the UK and it's cool to understand the impact of calling early childcare "pre-school". Never noticed it before! (also Maggie Thatch was horrendous for womens rights lol)
I find UK politics to be equally as interesting as American ones. Is it corrcet to say Tony Blair reversed many of Maggie's neoliberal policies?
@@blisteringnash4965 Not really, in fact he leaned into most of them
@@blisteringnash4965
Since when Thatcher was asked what she considered her greatest achievement, she replied; 'Tony Blair and New Labour', it's obvious he can't have changed too much. He did let councils have more money - towns stopped looking so shabby, and he put a lot into our health service.
But he introduced tuition fees for universities, and outsourced hospital and school building. New schools and hospitals could have been built by the state at a fraction of the cost, and now we have them going to the brink of bankruptcy because of the way the privatised system was set up.
FreedomToons has debunked this video.
I'm a brilliant intellectual!
@@pieynot9084 As am I apparently.
Yay capitalism! It is well overdue that Americans understand that socialism does not equal communism.
We know and we don't want socialism either
@@zombiewarking well rich people don't... majority that understand what they are missing do want socialism
@@zombiewarking Ofcourse, you don't belong to the vulnerable people. No wonder you have so much poverty,gang violence and neglected neighbourhoods.
They don't know what communism is either. But yeah socialism is based.
And everyone should understand that a "social market economy", which progressive western countries have, has also nothing to do with "socialism". Greetings from central europe.
Hey Vox. Wonder if you read this. But I like the video game style you did in this video. Good job. Looking forward to see more though :D
What's so interesting to an outsider is not that the US doesn't have universal childcare, it's that so many Americans think that's normal or don't seem to care. You can of course say the same for extortionate health care costs, high poverty rates, high obesity rates , lack of gun control , deaths by assault, incarceration rate ........
Well, see, the thing is...... millions of poor conservatives vote against their own best interests because of fear of if the liberal party gets control then they will let people of color and the LGBTQ community actually be treated like humans and that terrifies the hateful conservatives.
@@wendypollock8168 or maybe its because Democrats destroy the economy as has been seen with all the socialist policies during COVID.
Has the right wing ever done anything good for non-rich people, seriously?
I guess for future rich people like business owners they help sometimes... sometimes
Nixon was instrumental in setting up and protecting National Parks. Of course, since the 70s the US political spectrum has swung so far to the right that the GOP has fallen off the spectrum entirely
No!
I wonder how democrats solving problems in California portland etc lol
That would be a no. Never intentionally. If they accidentally do, they modify it fairly quickly.
"how did the US end here?" the same way it always does, capitalism baby!
No.. "Jews"
Um... I don't think you know how capitalism works.
I was just looking at daycare and the average was $1300 a month. It's wild
Dang same as rent might as well have a child live there
USA: Goes on a different path.
The world: WTH America?!
USA: I can do whatever I want because I am a superpower.
"Should the government..."
No.
They can't even run a courier service. NOTHING the government does goes well.
We need to go back to big government the government can do things better than Private industry can on a few topics child and healthcare most prominently
It wouldn’t be ran by the government. They would subsidize private businesses to provide care - just like they do with farmers who provide food.
And meanwhile the one percent continues to get free stuff. The corrupt people in our government are the reason our government doesn't work. Maybe they were put into place to make sure the government doesn't work the way it's supposed to.
And the problem with phrasing child care as education is it stigmatizes educators and lessens the weight on the education part and increases the weight on the childcare part. A balance can be made people just have to be willing to listen and see it.
A concept that should exist and implemented in the country that pretends to be the greatest in the world blocked because of the right-right Cold War mentality among other reasons.
Do a video about Working class women in the USSR . That will be a great topic.
It would be depressing
Even developing countries like India, Bangladesh is doing good in this regard. 26 week maternity leave in India and Ayushmann bharat are steps towards UHC. But obviously they are underfunded with lots of leakage and inefficiency and normally doesn't apply on informal sectors at ground level.
Canada has huge wait-lists that are 50k kids long. Works real well doesn't it?
What? I live in Canada, daycare costs like 120 a day here
The video said that some provinces have a program, while I only know of one, Quebec. Paid for by transfer payments.
The top comments were exactly how I thought I'd be.
Just because other 1st world nations have the same policy and the US doesn't, that doesn't mean the US should adopt it as well. That's called the ad populum fallacy.
Exactly. Plus if all these folks wat America to be "just like _____ country" then they can move to ______ country. Let the US be the US.
@@jaydenchannakYes. 💩🕳️
Lack of child care is really pressing on a lot of immigrant families. Parents are not only less likely to be able to afford child care but also have fewer close friends/relatives they can trust to watch over their kids as a favor. I knew quite a few classmates who had one parent leave work, either completely or for 5+ years, and after seeing the costs involved I can see why they might.
@@guilhermepicolloduarte8110 and people like you shouldn’t be allowed internet access yet here we are🤷🏽♂️
Yeah this is pretty true my parents don’t trust anybody, so my mom is a stay at home parent. This doesn’t help our finances especially considering my dad is getting older.
Leave.
Even if we did do it, it should only be for citizens
o ya, let immigrants immigrate to a rich 1st world country and then get them to pay for their kids
United States: Why don't we have universal child care?
Western Europa: Because you live in a developing country
US is like Colombia...but with more guns.
LOL L O L
Nixon and Thatcher why is it always you?
So you guys did that whole out-of-the-blue video game graphics shift just to set up for the final line of the piece...?
It’s wild that the only time people care about kids is when it’s in the moms womb. Other than that, they could care less about paid leave, nutrition, care or schooling.
By "people" I assume you mean "conservatives", who barely qualify as people.
That’s not even kind of correct but I’m wondering more why you’re okay with fetal murder.
@@charleshetrick3152 Keep in mind most people don't understand how social programs are funded, nor how they work. Not to mention the unintended consequences of such policies. "A government powerful enough to give you anything you want can take away everything you have."
@@Sapanator I’m always amazed how relevant the book Starship Troopers is. Written in ‘59 it actually addresses the flawed idea that people can just vote for what they want without any thought given to where the resources for what they want come from.
@@charleshetrick3152
“Not even kind of correct.”
No, actually, Housewarmin was spot on. You seem to be drunk on Malthusian meritocracy, where the poor are poor because of their own doing and deserve to starve because they’re “leeches” on the “real economy” of job creators and entrepreneurs. Yet the creation of new life must be protected in order to serve the machine.
Truth is, society is more than a collection of individuals. If, like me, you perceived the structures and superstructures that dictate the class disparities of society, you’d know that “personal responsibility” is just wishful thinking.
INDIA have government funded child care centers from late 90s
I Still remember my mom leaving me in a child care center when I was a kid in order to work in our rice farm with my dad
What. I don't have any idea about "government funded" child care centers though lol
@Dhruva Punde Have you heard of Anganwadi system. It started way back in 1970s .You must be living under a rock or something.
In south india we had
My family wasn't that rich to send me to a private one
@@manishreddy4897 their is no Government childcare center in India lier
I wonder why Germany is not on the list of best child care
I'm interested to know how the UK's educational universal childcare compares to Title 1 and head start programs in the USA. The brief description sounded similar except without the income requirements for parents.
Since the 60-70s the US became number 1 in single parent households at now 23% and women in the home went from 60% to now 14%
On top of this you need two incomes to cover basics and the number of births is sharply declining
you need two incomes if you want fancy stuff. raise children, be frugal, you don't need to incomes.
Imagine not having universal healthcare
Laughs in born in elsewhere that is not the US 😂
even if it is not free, they can at least make it cheaper
Me, who lives in Bangladesh......
2:57
I am going to screenshot this and send it to every boomer who asks me why we are not having kids.
Can we please put a moratorium on the Boomer-baiting? I'm late-Gen X and even I find it tedious and annoying.
The US birth rate is the highest in the first world. Many European countries have good maternity leave and welfare, but they have lower birth rate.
*Everyone talks about child care policy*
Indonesians: Wait, is that a thing?
Then it's time for a change
“With policy, it’s never really game over.” I guess, but it sounds like an incredibly frustrating and disappointing game to play where you can’t really do much to control the outcome.
This is probably what that single mother who got arrested recently for leaving her children at home needed (The one whose eldest teen daughter was left to look after the younger siblings but one still ended up walking outside for 15 minutes). It may not have been the best solution but might’ve provided her another option.
Exactly. It could have been a great option for her and it would be for so many parents. We have carceral systems rather than compassionate systems in the US (especially if you’re not white) which is so counterproductive to any kind of progress. Which unfortunately is by design.
Why is everything in the united states broken and our govt refuses to do anything about it?
Both Political Parties are owned by Corporations, they dont care what Voter think or hope for.
Because voters keep reelecting the representatives that broke it?
Capitalism in short words
@@elconejitopandrosito4971 Which European country is socialist. I know you'll keep me waiting. And by the way part of the problem is the mismanagement of government funds. The US spends more on social welfare programs as a percentage of GDP than the Netherlands, South Korea and Canada and yet cant seem to have universal child care. Maybe hold the government more accountable to how they spend our tax dollars instead of letting voters give more money in taxes to a government that is so inefficient.
@@DjWellDressedMan This right here. Politics is simply theater to distract you from the fact that all the wealthy are on the same side. They have hijacked the process so that laws apply differently to them. Storytime 'rivals' like Pepsi and Coke want you to choose between the two as if no other beverage exists. Break the cycle, vote with bullets and molotovs instead of the useless tickets handed to you by the very people who don't care what you mark down on them every year anyway
US govt: "Sorry folks, if you want the nice things that virtually all of you support and we definitely already have the resources for, we'll have to BE AT WAR. That's how our economy works now. Or at least me and my friends in the 'defense' sector decided anyway. Ka-CHING!"
Conservative: “Vote for us and we’ll get be it to you”
Democrats: “No vote for us and we’ll give it to you”
Don’t you love it when your politicians give you an ultimatum?
It's like they don't realise we can be an even bigger capitalist country if they provided these services
They are incredibly short-sighted people, with all of their attention focused on the shortest-term gain. Capitalism and benevolence don't have to be mutually exclusive; benevolence creates goodwill and better work in the long term. It's just that these people are extremely selfish and myopic.
I used to laugh at the running joke about americans not having healthcare but then my mind clued in our friends a step over the line literally having to pay for having a baby.... on top of all the other expenses related to having a newborn...
Why should I pay for someone who lives 1000s of miles away, that I’ve never met nor will ever meet to have a kid that’s not mine?
@@rickyl7231 omfg are you DEFENDING the american health care system??? Buddy this conversation immediately has hit a brick wall.
@@shinnith He isn’t defending the system, he is asking a question. Why should he pay for other people’s medical bill is what he is asking? Don’t shoot the observer, I want no part of this.
@@Flexinciple dont worry I wont, dear observer. You bring a good point and I feel you but the question clearly comes with other implications than just asking for a simple answer- as its attached to a comment about feeling bad that the American medical system doesn't work the same way other "first world" countries do. Maybe the original commenter will realize when we put portions of our taxes away for the ability to "pay for someone to have a kid miles away" that in turn, when we have our own children, we will benefit from the same services.
"...Americans not having Healthcare..."
Huh? So, because the government doesn't provide something "free" (aka stealing more of our money to pay for it), then that means that it doesn't exist in the country?
Amazing display of stupidity.
Basically be sneaky with how u give benefits to people so that they don't even realise its welfare
In my country Lithuania we offer parents up to 144 weeks or 3y of parental/family leave, which starts before mother giving birth. Parents get child money, they get all sorts of other benefits like additional time off from work on top a already minimum 4 weeks vacation + 16 national holidays. Kindergartens, Preschools all free, also we have law that mandates for kids to receive healthy nutritious food in kindergartens, preschools and schools. Everyone receive Universal Healthcare here and kids up to 18 and sometimes up to 23 receive free dental care and in general dental care is cheap and top quality here. University is free for everyone, you can join Medical School without any problems.
Pretty much the same in Latvia
Whenever Vox made a video that spoke about social welfare in the US, trust some of the comments here to be golden.
Golden, as in, “Look at this person, how selfish and factually incorrect they are.”
For the equivalent of $8/day. Bust out my calculator. We’re paying $70/day for my 4 year old’s preschool. It’s gotten prohibitively more expensive to care for children as the country has become more diverse. It’s an extra tax on the working class
?? You pay for preschool???
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 Yeah, in the US, only families below the poverty line can have the cost of tuition covered by the government.
Just a suggestion: Maybe include non "first-world" countries every once in a while...? (Mexico, the BRICS, etc...)
China and India don't have anything free.. Russia has it.. Brazil has.. South Africa I'm not sure
That reply @ 0:21 is pure gold
Thank yall for this🙏🏿
Would have liked to see a breakdown of pros and cons
Well, there wouldn't be much of a premise left to defend if they did.
Check out freedom toons
lol that's the problem with the video.
Nixen is praised among so many even democrats but he was a terrible president who was super pro corporation and low accountability for the powerful and media and is single handedly responsible for so many of the problems we face to this day. Not to forget his wars on the poor and minorities and the things he was caught saying about them.
I have literally never heard a single person praise Nixon. Do you have a source for this claim?
@@mastone3609 Republicans do it all the time and conservatives dems do as well
@@DPowered2 so you've reassert the same thing, you've just expanded your assertion.
@@mastone3609 Its a lot of stuff to sort through but i can try to give you clear and direct concepts to look into. Republicans during nixons time were firmly for harsher treatments of the poor and minorities. Nixon in his own recorded statements along with his advisor said the main reason they created the war on drugs was to go after hippi and black communities which republicans were in favor of not to mention not having child care which they thought would help minorities and immigrants too much. But one of the many things he did that was popular was lower accountability for media and for business and other core policies that made it easier for business to be corrupt. So what does that have to do with republicans and some dems praising nixon? Well they still protect his polices and attack any chances to social programs and benefits as well as the war on drugs. They think it saves money and is tough on crime which punishes everyone financially and punishes minorities specifically. Nixon opened the flood gates to allow members of congress to openly receive bribes and weakened the penalties for being caught in corruption to which they favor. I can't find specific praises of Nixon on youtube but anecdotally i know McConnell and Sarah and Gaetz as well as Shepiro approve of his ideology
@@DPowered2 I'm not going to continue to comment. You're still just asserting things. You can say you know something all you want, that doesn't at all validate your claims.
I was genuinely surprised by "(anymore)" part
Whoever did the graphics deserves a raise.
What does the US government actually do for it’s citizens?
maybe leave them alone and let them lives their lives?
Why not include germany? One of the biggest criticism of good health care is: "Oh it's only possible in these small countries, because there you could manage it better". So it would have been intelligent to include more large industrial countries.
Japan is included, and they have a higher population than Germany, and France isn't far behind Germany either. So while I too, being German, would have liked to see Germany on the list, it's not really necessary for the reason you stated.
@@pixelmaster98 that makes alot of sense
Japan is not exactly a small country, given that they are well over 100 million
Oh yeah, the old universal "but the USA is big!" excuse.
Japans population peaked in 2017 with a total of 128M ppl. To this day they continue to lose ppl, 5 years later they lost 2M ppl, by 2030 they’ll be down to 116M and 2050 they’ll see only 99M ppl. It’s a sad story of its aging population. Geographically it’s indeed a huge country however less than 30% of the country is actually suitable for human life
There’s a great book called freedom from the market by Mike konczal that talks about this.
Before I watch the video, I'll answer the question with my opinion.
Because rich people Don't want their kids to mix in with the working class kids.
I speak as a father.
Wow
You have a point. Once they reach a level, they don't want to share anymore. Typical socialite culture.
europe do be laughing though
You do realize people still pay taxes for it right?
Most of these arguments are invalid today, its hard enough for married couples to afford it. And they'll say they don't work hard enough
1) No free child care leads to declining birth rates.
2) Declining birth rates lead to increase in immigration.
3) Increase in immigration leads to racial tensions fueled by domestic extremist groups.
4) Racial tensions lead to Donald Trump.
5) Donald Trump causes decline in immigration.
6) Decline in immigration leads to demographic collapse.
7) Demographic collapse leads to the adoption of free universal child care.
COULDN'T IT BE LESS COMPLICATED?
I think another reason that the US also never jumped on the paid childcare bandwagon (and this is really just my opinion) is because it had a combination of high immigration + high birth rates from lower income groups that the population still grew even without these subsidies. It's only recently in the past decade that declining birth rates across all groups have many people stop and realize "hey, maybe we should have a universal child care system in the US too because people aren't having as many/any kids anymore"
That explains why Mexico also suffers the same problem with their universal child care system
Usa is the country which best represent the morphy law: "if something can go wrong it will!"
We need to get these old politicians out of office soon and get new fresh faces
New politicians does not equal to experienced ones who are wise.
And we wonder why the birth rate is declining
Really it just boils down to the fact that people don't want to pay for the childcare of others.
Nursery school in the UK is only for a morning OR an afternoon each school day. Good luck trying to find a job for those few short hours, especially when you have to factor in any travelling time. Of course, come school holiday time, you have no free childcare at all. Tax credits used to pay roughly 70% of private nursery charges, idk if that applies any more.
I’d rather be dead broke than put my kid in childcare
Its sad.. Im do door 2 door solar sales for a living in Southern California and I can't tell you how many people I've come across that are over 65 but need to keep working because they wouldn't be able to pay for Healthcare and property taxes if they retired.
Thats why i dont ever plan on retiring.
Actually, fifty cents a day is about $21 today if you adjust using a wage index rather than CPI, which is more realistic.