When Disney (shouldn't have) Dropped A Billion Dollar Franchise

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Disney's Narnia fulfilled many fan's expectations and earned well over 1.5 billion dollars. So what happened? And should Disney do something about it?
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  • @NerdoftheRings
    @NerdoftheRings 6 месяцев назад +17

    It’s still wild to me how what should have been a reliable, solid franchise got undermined (summer release for PC) and tossed aside by Disney. It’s a book series with so much potential, but seems undervalued at every turn. They haven’t even released the films on 4k and the EE of LWW is only on DVD! 🤦‍♂️
    Great video, btw! 😁 Apologies for the rant. 😂

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  6 месяцев назад

      Whoa it’s Nerd of the Rings! Hey no need to apologize haha, I think you summed it up perfectly: “Undervalued at every turn”
      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

    • @wyattcole5452
      @wyattcole5452 6 месяцев назад

      @@mythwest 1:45 is that the best example of the music bc that’s pretty generic

  • @makingthestorybetter
    @makingthestorybetter 7 месяцев назад +1117

    I trust Netflix and modern Disney to handle Narnia with the same amount of trust I have for the government to not tax me.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +73

      Understandable haha

    • @Luka1180
      @Luka1180 7 месяцев назад +12

      I agree. Tax is theft. Unless you're rich.

    • @danielramsey6141
      @danielramsey6141 7 месяцев назад +3

      We’re not talking about now. We’re talking about how They should’ve kept it going.

    • @uzumaki5277
      @uzumaki5277 7 месяцев назад

      @@danielramsey6141I haven’t seen Narnia in forever but I do recall the movies being certified BANGERS

    • @NCC1371
      @NCC1371 7 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@Luka1180 theft is theft regardless of wealth.

  • @Brizwho
    @Brizwho 7 месяцев назад +473

    I couldn't have written a better love letter to these movies. I grew up with both the books and movies, and it's always made me sad that we never got to see more of the story on screen. It was a core part of my imagination as a kid, and I love revisiting it as an adult. Adam's vision of Narnia was so tangible and draws you in with each rewatch. Hearing that Netflix and Greta were working on something new with Narnia made me...nervous. I'm right there with you wishing Disney would take the rights back.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +47

      It’s just so poetic that Disney picked a director literally named “Adam’s-son” (Adamson) aka “Son of Adam”.
      I’m so glad to see ppl 20 yrs later now regarding it as another comfort watch like Lotr, it’s so deserved

    • @ohifonlyx33
      @ohifonlyx33 7 месяцев назад +28

      You actually WANT... Of all studios... you want DISNEY in the year of 2024... to take on Christian Children's Author C.S. Lewis's works? I'm a LOTR fan, and I know the apprehension of bad spin-offs and awkward prequels all too well. But Disney is among the worst when it comes to making bland, mediocre, and occasionally downright offensive content in the name of a certain brand of liberalism that I think would clash awfully with Lewis's themes.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +31

      I feel your caution. Disney is quite different than the Disney that adapted it in 2005, and I fear they might not let a passionate fan like Adamson do it Justice again without meddling with the project. But if they give a great director free reign and their leadership was committed to a great adaptation first, I’d be hopeful. Maybe a little wishful of me but at least it has happened in the mid 2000’s, even if the company is different

    • @heitorpedrodegodoi5646
      @heitorpedrodegodoi5646 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@ohifonlyx33 Well they already toned down some Lewis ideias in the Santa scene, theres some things in Lewis writtings that may not age well in the current era.

    • @chrisdorris5496
      @chrisdorris5496 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@ohifonlyx33 It could be a return to form for Disney. Something does need to change because the recent financial failures aren’t sustainable for more than a few years. If they could win back family-oriented viewers, they might survive.

  • @effys7810
    @effys7810 7 месяцев назад +283

    its so good to hear people appreciate the phenomenal soundtrack that harry gregson williams wrote, "for narnia and for aslan" with that music in the background changed my dna for real

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +25

      “Changed my DNA” is my new favorite expression haha

  • @marymellas5548
    @marymellas5548 7 месяцев назад +144

    Recently rewatched The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe and I couldn't believe how good Aslan still looks. They got just the right amount of realistic features while still allowing him to have very natural-looking and emotive facial expressions. Still don't understand why they didn't use him as a model when making the newer Lion King.

    • @SIMON_SAYS_SO
      @SIMON_SAYS_SO 7 месяцев назад

      The Lion King ($1,663,075,401) made more than double what The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe ($745,013,115) made. Both movies were good but Aslan was a lion that could talk as were all the creatures in Narnia. Simba and the animals talking was just the audience understanding what animal talk was and not them actually talking so they made the animals in Lion King have expressions primal animals have instead of what sentient animals have. We should appreciate both for what they are and how they are different rather than them being the same. I do wish the Narnia stories had more viewers but not as many people are as familiar with the source material.

    • @Jedimack7
      @Jedimack7 7 месяцев назад +12

      @@SIMON_SAYS_SO nah that live action money grab was a worse rendition of the movie it was based on, they effectively took things out of the animated movie.

    • @Wriath9
      @Wriath9 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@SIMON_SAYS_SOlion king live action made more but not double if you adjust for inflation. But box office doesn't matter about reusing a cgi model or method if it still looks great.

    • @jonp8three
      @jonp8three 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Wriath9The Lion King has in recent years been a multi billion franchise, including the Broadway show which has been staged in many parts of the world. So it's no surprise that the 'not live action but look how great our cgi is, it looks like live action' adaptation was successful. I guess we many fans wanted more HEART in it and facial expressions would've helped. It's kind of like if Hollywood remade a really successful movie like Avatar - people would go see it to see what it was like (of course they're not going to remake Avatar now since they're still doing sequels, but it's an example).

  • @Pocketkid2
    @Pocketkid2 7 месяцев назад +218

    The first two Narnia movies are a big part of my childhood, very nostalgic, and Prince Caspian was the first movie I can remember watching in theaters

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +9

      Same, first movie was my first movie in theaters

    • @TheBc99
      @TheBc99 7 месяцев назад +3

      Oh no I'm old

    • @wyattcole5452
      @wyattcole5452 7 месяцев назад

      Never got into them, same with the books

    • @ethankoetsier
      @ethankoetsier 7 месяцев назад

      @@wyattcole5452 You should certainly try the books again. I loved reading them as a kid and loved listening to the audiobooks while commuting as an adult. They are really written for all ages which is fantastic. That's unlike some other books like Percy Jackson that were great as a kid, but that i can no longer read as an adult because of how simplistic the language is.

    • @wyattcole5452
      @wyattcole5452 7 месяцев назад

      @@ethankoetsier even when I was 10 Percy Jackson was too cheesy for me in its simplistic language, I was the kinda kid that read Great Illustrated Classics and older stuff that was dumbed-down for kids more, so technically my first chapter book was Moby Dick 😂

  • @rachellelamberti6082
    @rachellelamberti6082 7 месяцев назад +176

    I still can’t believe that we could have gotten an atrocious 90s version of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe 😆

    • @LadyDecember
      @LadyDecember 7 месяцев назад +8

      My morbid curiosity is getting the better of me and I _almost_ want to visit the alternate universe where this movie got made, just to experience such a spectacular insult to both literary adaptation and cinema...

    • @MrPGC137
      @MrPGC137 7 месяцев назад +6

      However atrocious the 90s version might've been, it couldn't possibly have been any worse than the absolutely *ghastly* animated version from 1979. With a combination of bad drawing, cheesy, low-budget animation & voice-acting that was either wooden or so over-the-top it would've been considered overkill for Saturday Morning cartoons, the result was virtually unwatchable. Worst of all, it jammed the story into an hour & a half viewing-time. Dreadful!

    • @tnvol2011
      @tnvol2011 7 месяцев назад +6

      The 80’s/90’s versions are a whole lot better. No CGI ☺️☺️

    • @grinningtiki220
      @grinningtiki220 7 месяцев назад +7

      A radical Lion on a skateboard would have been super rad dude

    • @NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan
      @NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan 7 месяцев назад

      @@tnvol2011 No one asked.

  • @georgemedina7209
    @georgemedina7209 7 месяцев назад +120

    Stepping into Narnia for the first time in2005 was almost like stepping into Hogarts in 2001.

  • @robertbarga3694
    @robertbarga3694 7 месяцев назад +37

    I always thought it was an absolute crime not to have continued this series. The first Narnia Film was one of the most surprising movie experience I've ever had and went so much harder than I ever expected.

    • @SithEmperorDarthSyniclus
      @SithEmperorDarthSyniclus 7 месяцев назад

      The rest of the novels are shit.

    • @JZStudiosonline
      @JZStudiosonline 7 месяцев назад +1

      I read all the books and aside from the 3 they adapted, though the Dawn Treader was adapted poorly, they're very hard to follow

  • @thomasgries704
    @thomasgries704 7 месяцев назад +31

    I’m so glad to see Narnia had such an impact on so many people! It was the first series I fell in love with. So much so that as a kid, I felt “homesick” for a place that didn’t exist. The score, the story, the characters, the production design: all of it combined into something truly magical that touched me to my core. Just hearing that music again gave me chills. Thanks for giving this often overlooked masterpiece the coverage it deserves!

  • @Mindstormer
    @Mindstormer 7 месяцев назад +111

    Yeah I love rewatching these, but every time it leaves a pit in my stomach to know it never got to see it being finished. This is one series I really want to see complete. But unfortunately I don’t think we will. I still love the first movie to the bottom of my heart. It one of my most favorite movies to date and its kinda just been great growing up with it.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +7

      I feel you man. I doubt we’ll get to ever see them finished out, and it’ll hurt to see Netflix paint right over them with their new movies. But I guess I’m glad we at least got to experience the magic of the first ones. Still does hurt tho haha

    • @sethjones5250
      @sethjones5250 7 месяцев назад +3

      They should start with the magicians nephew

    • @andrewgilbertson5672
      @andrewgilbertson5672 7 месяцев назад

      They had a serialized adaptation of TLWWW in black and white British television in the 60s (mostly lost today). An animated TLWWW in the last 70s. The BBC Wonderworks adaptations of the first four (which are the closer adaptations in my book, but who can't match the Disney series production values or, as mention, magnificent film score). And then Disney's two with Fox's third follow-up.
      I don't trust Netflix with this series. AT ALL.
      But it would be nice to at least see the curse broken and all seven books adapted, for once. :-)
      For for that matter, I'd even take someone figuring out how to adapt Prince Caspian the right way. I don't think anyone's really got that one right yet. It is a challenging book.

  • @kathleent4291
    @kathleent4291 7 месяцев назад +97

    “Just a little creativity” is asking too much of Disney these days

    • @matthiasneidenberger9471
      @matthiasneidenberger9471 7 месяцев назад +9

      Creativity? Why don’t you just give a vampire a plate of garlic bread with some holy water to wash it down?

    • @User2024.0ap
      @User2024.0ap 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@matthiasneidenberger9471 Lol😂

    • @Rikrik1138
      @Rikrik1138 7 месяцев назад

      Then Disney adds a bunch of politically correct crap, raping the story.

  • @Nargon46
    @Nargon46 7 месяцев назад +44

    They need to make Horse and His Boy pronto! It would literally be so easy of an adaptation because it's very cinematic in its own right

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +6

      Right???

    • @chantrystarr4345
      @chantrystarr4345 7 месяцев назад +4

      It really was the best book…

    • @lukeporras1288
      @lukeporras1288 7 месяцев назад +3

      It’s the best book, but also widely considered the most offensive lol. In our modern age, I don’t think we’ll ever get a true adaptation free of serious tampering.

    • @danielstreeter6738
      @danielstreeter6738 7 месяцев назад +7

      ​​@@lukeporras1288Not to mention that any studio executive that had even heard of it would probably dismiss it as a pointless side story since its stakes and main characters are so self-contained. But yeah, I feel like the quality of the characterization and storytelling of it are underrated. It definitely earns its place in the series.

    • @josephivenegas
      @josephivenegas 7 месяцев назад

      All adaptation is translation. Things are lost, things are found.
      If they nail the breathtaking desert vistas, fantastic new characters, and, of course, ASLAN... what's a few tweaked elements here and there, for modern sensibilities?
      It's still going to be a fantasy caricature of the Middle East, but maybe just... remove the bit where their evil priests worship an evil soul-eating shadow demon? I mean I guess that's the same demon that eats the Antichrist's monkey in the final book, but even so is it really so bad to remove it here? Just seems a little... aggressive.
      Like yeah this country doesn't really know or like Narnians and by proxy Aslan... but devil-worshippers? Really?
      Where do they even get the idea from? I don't think the White Witch ever got this far south. Unless she did and the weather was just, way nicer back then? I guess??? Might be nice to expand on that. To some degree, hopefully. Assuming we'll have the time.
      Maybe it all leads back to the Silver Chair...
      But it's not like Calormen is **supposed** to be some exotic place full of adventures. It's supposed to be a sucky dry dead place! With slaves! And NO talking animals. We aren't even focusing too much time in this country proper anyway! Our heroes are trying to get out, and the only way out is by desert!
      That said, I wouldn't be against them adding the more "Egyptian"-flavored fantasy creatures into some of the wider, wilder desert scenes, like a lone sphinx hissing at a five-headed cobra, maybe some black griffins circling overhead like vultures, ghostly jackals and chimera, laughing among the tombs, only to vanish at first sight of man... And desert spirits, like the dryads and naiads of the verdant North, but made of windblown sand instead.
      You know, for the *atmosphere.*
      Just because we aren't in Narnia Proper, doesn't mean we aren't still in ****NARNIA****.
      Of course these creatures should NEVER talk, especially not with any of our main characters, at least not directly, since that would break a MASSIVE core element of the book, which is the delight of discovering **Oh wow this horse is SPECIAL because he's a NARNIAN horse which means he can TALK!!!**

  • @Pantheragem
    @Pantheragem 7 месяцев назад +21

    Say what one will about "Voyage of the Dawn Treader", but the depature of Reepicheep is cinematic excellence.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +3

      I have to agree, that whole sequence was perfect

  • @krislyons2793
    @krislyons2793 7 месяцев назад +21

    This video really reminded me how well-crafted those first two movies are. Like genuinely, you could make an argument that they're some of the best book-to-movie adaptations, with many of the scenes being even better than the source material. Andrew Adamson really doesn't get enough credit.

  • @annawenrich
    @annawenrich 7 месяцев назад +50

    Laughed so hard on the Centaur/Yeah Buddy bits!!! And the IMAX sound effects for the summer 2008 box office bit! I love Narnia both the books and the films and would LOVE to see the 2005 cast return for any adaptation, whether Netflix or otherwise.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed!! Had so much fun putting those montages together haha

  • @Hwilki
    @Hwilki 7 месяцев назад +32

    Oh how I have longed for Disney to resume their Narnia series!!! I kept hoping from 2012-2018 that The Silver Chair would come to fruition… but we all know how that went. Rather than start a new series, I would love to see the original actors, Weta, and everyone else involved with the first three films come back and be able to finish what they so beautifully started.

  • @jameswilson3370
    @jameswilson3370 7 месяцев назад +57

    “Cosmic epicness of the Last Battle” well said, my friend. Well said.
    Never even realized that about all the actors being the right age for the other movie adaptations. 😮
    Would love for Disney to pick Narnia back up.
    To be fair, Narnia is definitely the OG multiverse. In theory, it sounds like a great idea to expand on this. But like you said, it’s just going to be milked as a cash cow instead of enhancing the franchise.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +9

      Agreed. Like there’s so much potential with Lewis’s Wood Between The Worlds to jump into all sorts of worlds, but then Lewis has such a distinctive excellent style, it’s just impossible to reproduce.
      Kinda wish magicians nephew could’ve been adapted earlier since the multiverse thing is becoming so common but Lewis did it so long ago before it was popular

    • @jameswilson3370
      @jameswilson3370 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@mythwest I kinda feel like Netflix is going to start with The Magicians Nephew just to be distinct from Disney. It’ll be interesting to see how it all pans out, especially with Greta Gerwig directing it.
      You’re totally right though - the books are so distinctive and it’s hard to have faith that someone will maintain that style. I’m afraid any new adaptarions might be sort of saturated with political correctness and “modern” ideas.

    • @reviewers183
      @reviewers183 7 месяцев назад +1

      You do not want Disney touching marina again trust me

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 7 месяцев назад +35

    I hadn't read the books yet when Disney's "Prince Caspian" was released and even *I* was confused by the romance between Caspian and Susan. "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" was a weaker film but at least they hinted at Caspian's feelings for Ramandu's Daughter, his only canonical love interest.

    • @Telmarine55
      @Telmarine55 7 месяцев назад +5

      VDT is visually the most beautiful of the Narnia films. I would have made a different VDT film, but I can still appreciate it for what it is. They should’ve embellished the Caspian-Lilliandil romance instead of the Susan romance.

  • @qmyers367
    @qmyers367 7 месяцев назад +24

    The wit and editing of this video is insane. The interesting perspectives in these video essays this channel posts are original thought. Not regurgitated ideas and thoughts others have worn out. What a banger video.

  • @MBJ829
    @MBJ829 7 месяцев назад +18

    I loved watching the narnia movies growing up. The first narnia is my favorite because of a scene where Tilda Swinton’s character slapped one of the main characters😆😭.

  • @iquest9701
    @iquest9701 7 месяцев назад +32

    Very good video! I haven't seen a lot of video essays about Narnia in a positive perspective.
    But I'm glad to see more people showing there love for this franchise.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +6

      Thanks! Yeah many ppl seem to take the “it was doomed to fail” angle which I think is a bit on the pessimistic side. Glad you enjoyed the video!

    • @iquest9701
      @iquest9701 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@mythwest I also found your video incredibly funny! I laughed out loud during the fake Narnia spin-off titles.

  • @TannerCharlesYT
    @TannerCharlesYT 7 месяцев назад +5

    The humor you put in this video is so good - please don’t stop 😂

  • @benjamingentile1660
    @benjamingentile1660 7 месяцев назад +67

    My favorite part of Greta Gerwig being attached to “direct” is that she is a writer/director-everything she’s directed and some of what she’s acted in, she’s written. So why is she only attached as a director and not a writer/director? Well… it’s probably because she made this deal in the middle of the writers’ strike so the announcement that she’s going to be writing them too will come later… which was (probably) always the plan and something discussed in the middle of the strike but never put down on paper.

    • @smoli
      @smoli 7 месяцев назад +13

      I can't wait for Aslan to preach at me about whatever Gerwig wants to preach about this time!!!

    • @bruno78392
      @bruno78392 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@smolithey hired a radical feminist to direct one of the most openly christian childrens story... what could go wrong???

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 7 месяцев назад +23

    I like your idea of Disney picking up where they left off with the old cast. However, if that doesn't work out, I would love to see the books adapted into an animated tv or film series.

  • @Poppleworks
    @Poppleworks 7 месяцев назад +15

    Yeah actually any and all Narnia films can still work if Disney went back to it. The Pevinsies are *never* children ever again in the franchise- only their monarch forms from the end of Wardrobe and their real-life adult selves. The other two are Silver Chair and Magician’s Nephew, not featuring them.
    The only logistical issue is Eustace needing to appear as a kid again, and Will Poulter being a rather distinct actor. But if they can find a worthy successor, there you go.

  • @ethanbibile
    @ethanbibile 7 месяцев назад +19

    For as much as I love fantasy, Narnia as a franchise really just passed me by. All the little details you highlighted though really make me want to go and watch the films that do exist

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +6

      Imo it’s well worth it. It’s not quite the darker more intense fantasy flavor of Lotr but it’s got its own magic and is still mostly visually stunning, even after 18 yrs. At the very least worth it for the battle scene at the end which objectively ranks up there in the top cinema fantasy battles

    • @breabrit3248
      @breabrit3248 7 месяцев назад +4

      If you're a fantasy lover then you should definitely watch at least the first two. As he said they really do rank high in fantasy battles.

  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast 7 месяцев назад +5

    I've never been a big book reader BUT The Lion, The Witch and The Waredrobe was a book I read over and over as a kid. I had EVERYTHING in the book in my mind. Some how, some way, the movie looked, sounded and felt exactly like I imagined it as a kid. I had such high hopes for the series and then......well you video covers the rest.

  • @Alastherra
    @Alastherra 7 месяцев назад +7

    You're not lying about the soundtrack. To this day I remember how I ran from school to catch the first movie on screen, and it being so early in the afternoon I ended up being alone in the cinema. And walking away from it humming the Battle theme. Made me cry last year when I heard it performed live by our movie orchestra - funnily enough in the same building that played the entrance to the London underground at the beginning of Prince Caspian, which I watched being filmed at said location on my way home from school. Good times 😊💙

  • @volbound1700
    @volbound1700 7 месяцев назад +22

    It was actually a shock (even back in the day) that Disney even took on Narnia. It is no secret that CS Lewis was a Christian and Narnia is steep in Christian Lore including Aslan being a representation of Christ in the original one. The Disney Narnias didn't even skate around it, it is there from the Professor talking to the Pevansie children to Aslan's death. This made the movie work. It was true to the actual vision and content of CS Lewis. Disney is far too political today to ever do a film with meaning like that. Heck, they seemed even too political back then.

  • @danielblom391
    @danielblom391 7 месяцев назад +12

    A good adaptation of the Silver Chair or even The Last Battle would be very cool though. The stories are so weird and dark, and given the already darker tones of Prince Caspian and Dawn Treader it could be something to see.
    And of course so we can see a Last Battle that has more armored centaurs and minotaurs and fauns and all the trees and river spirits and the stars falling from the skies to join a massive brawl to end the world

  • @user-yz6rw3si3e
    @user-yz6rw3si3e 7 месяцев назад +5

    Oddly the thing I remember the most about the first Narnia movie which I watched in a Hall was the toward the beginning, when the children had boarded the train and once it had started moving, the background music had a woman singing something like "....wannnn yaaaaaa...." and then there were tinkles of notes of some sort of stringed instrument that sounded like a santoor/dulcimer/harp before the string section swelled.

    • @HLOFloZ
      @HLOFloZ 7 месяцев назад +2

      Yes! And the big tuba was blasting off at measure 17! 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🤪💨💨💨💨💨💨⭐️

  • @ShesquatchPiney
    @ShesquatchPiney 7 месяцев назад +3

    This is why centaurs and minotaurs are the greatest most underused creatures in fantasy. Practical effects for the win INDEED.

  • @Levicandoit
    @Levicandoit 7 месяцев назад +4

    *Those battle scenes still rip hard af. My big ass family did our part to keep Narnia going. We watched it 3 times in the theaters.*

  • @robinhoodieradio3394
    @robinhoodieradio3394 7 месяцев назад +11

    If Netflix keeps their hands off Gerwig and let's her make the films/series/whatever her way, then I think there is a chance we'll having something real good. I doubt that the original cast will make a comeback, at least in a way that ties to the Disney version. Agree it would be super cool though and could work out well.

    • @Melanie-jy2nw
      @Melanie-jy2nw 7 месяцев назад

      I’m interested in what Gerwig would do with Susan’s character. Especially with her tragic fate in the final books being seen as a product of misogyny. With her past movies, I can see her making commentary on that.

    • @volbound1700
      @volbound1700 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Melanie-jy2nw I think CS Lewis' fate of Susan is actually misunderstand. There was a discussion outside the book series were he indicated that Susan may have been a representation of himself throughout the series.

    • @silent_bag2350
      @silent_bag2350 7 месяцев назад

      @@Melanie-jy2nw wasn't Susan meant to be him tho

  • @aliciasorenson3807
    @aliciasorenson3807 7 месяцев назад +8

    As an adult, Prince Caspian was my fav movie out of all those you listed, saw it twice in theaters, it's too bad they pushed it to the summer! And i agree the 3rd is not as good as the first 2, but my kids LOVE it. They love and watch all 3 all the time!

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield 7 месяцев назад +8

    Very interesting speculations on the future of Narnia - as you say in the vid, we can only hope that it ends up in the hands of a film maker who actually loves the material!

  • @PikeTheFalcon
    @PikeTheFalcon 7 месяцев назад +5

    I really like the calm voice inter spliced with metal music as the war centaurs are going ham. I can tell you put a lot of love into this.

    • @qmyers367
      @qmyers367 7 месяцев назад

      I noticed that too 😂

  • @betterlatethannever4529
    @betterlatethannever4529 7 месяцев назад +3

    The irony is that they sold the film rights to Fox, then bought Fox

  • @Level_Eleven
    @Level_Eleven 7 месяцев назад +1

    *“There used to be a little pool. When you looked down into it you could see all the trees growing upside-down in the water, all green and below them, deep, very deep, the blue sky.”*
    The Silver Chair is so good

  • @dylanwong6065
    @dylanwong6065 7 месяцев назад +3

    I was in high school when the first two Chronicles of Narnia films came out while the third Chronicles of Narnia film came out when I was in Pasadena City College. I love The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe. It had a wonderful story, great characters, awesome villains, beautiful scenery, brilliant special effects, outstanding makeups, amazing battle scenes, and the music is so epic and intense. It became a huge success during the holiday season while it was competing with two other holiday fantasy blockbuster films like Harry Potter and The Goblet of Fire and Peter Jackson’s King Kong. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian in my opinion is a fantastic fantasy adventure film even though not as good as the first Narnia film. Although Prince Caspian did not grossed as much money as The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe, it still made a profit and became the 10th highest grossing film of 2008 after The Dark Knight, Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Kung Fu Panda, Hancock, Mamma Mia, Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa, Quantum of Solace, Iron Man, and Wall-E. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of The Dawn Treader was great but my least favorite of the Narnia trilogy. While Voyage of the Dawn Treader has grossed $415 million worldwide and became the 13th highest grossing film of 2010, it didn’t make as much as the two predecessors and became the lowest grossing Narnia film in the trilogy. It’s a darn shame that 4 other Narnia books was never adapted into a movie. I wish Disney would have still keep the rights for Narnia since Disney has been very rocky for the past three years. Disney should have focus more on Narnia instead of most of pointless live action remakes.

  • @Snoopydoop
    @Snoopydoop 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! It's very refreshing to see people with a finger on the pulse, since book to movie adaptations of all sorts are being discussed everywhere

  • @christophervanasse9911
    @christophervanasse9911 7 месяцев назад +13

    Honestly I say let it rest. I don’t need to see another beloved franchise ruined by current toxic ideologies that have infected the entertainment industries. They literally can’t help themselves now.

  • @DafyddBrooks
    @DafyddBrooks 7 месяцев назад +12

    Thanks very much for doing this.
    I don't get why Disney would change their release date for the second movie as Water Horse is no where near the popularity of what Harry Potter is.
    The second book was always going to be challenging any way as its a very different story to the first book, so making a big movie in continuation from their previous one was always going to be challenging.
    Imagine if they had continued the series then they easily could have their own attraction at Disney land to rival the Harry Potter attraction at Universal studios .
    Ah well, lets be glad and enjoy what we have at least :) thanks again

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +5

      You’re welcome! Yeah not sure why they felt Water Horse would be a big contender, certainly wouldn’t have been much in comparison to the rest of 2008’s lineup

    • @DafyddBrooks
      @DafyddBrooks 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@mythwest cheers. Of course when one says Disney, they mean the people or person in charge and what's interesting is that this was possibley Bob Igers decision to make. Which is strange because this is when he was just starting up and doing great things.
      I guess you could say Narnia was one of Michael Eisner's last decisions to make as CEO of the company so i guess there was at least some good he did in his final days you could say

  • @sleepinggorilla
    @sleepinggorilla 7 месяцев назад +3

    I forgot how cool that Minotaur was! It has been a long time since I have seen these movies, I never did see Voyage of the Dawn Treader.
    It is not really a Saga, in that there is no over arching story that continues from one movie to the next. The one constant is Aslan. I agree that they could change the order of the books to help with continuity.

  • @Nova_the_starcatcher
    @Nova_the_starcatcher 7 месяцев назад +5

    dude Netflix did a fantastic job at adapting the series of unfortunate events tho

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +3

      That gives me hope should Netflix move forward. Also the Avatar show looks like it might deliver so that’s some hope

    • @Nova_the_starcatcher
      @Nova_the_starcatcher 7 месяцев назад +1

      Ya I have my fingers crossed for Avatar too, unsure how thats going to turn out! Like you said netflix has definitely had their misses, so hopefully this another hidden gem​@mythwest

    • @Telmarine55
      @Telmarine55 7 месяцев назад +1

      Netflix also did an excellent job with its fantasy series “Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance”. That series gives me hope that they can do Narnia justice.

  • @illinoismotionpicturestudi5065
    @illinoismotionpicturestudi5065 7 месяцев назад +2

    3:58-4:14
    Made my week. I didn't know I needed to see that, but I'm so glad I did

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 7 месяцев назад +4

    Say what you want about Narnia 2005 but i still think a lot of the effects looked great and hold up well

  • @michaelobrien6843
    @michaelobrien6843 7 месяцев назад +1

    I knew from the beginning Disney was the wrong studio for Narnia...and Disney itself has since proven me right.

  • @Luka1180
    @Luka1180 7 месяцев назад +3

    Prince Caspian is not the next book in the series. That is The Horse and His Boy. At least chronologically. It's also been the third book in the series since they started ordering it chronologically officially. and selling them as such.

  • @tiggerjoy7899
    @tiggerjoy7899 7 месяцев назад +6

    After Greta's Little women i would be so happy to see her direct it

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +2

      Her faithfulness to that story gives me hope Should the Netflix continue

  • @sigma5088
    @sigma5088 7 месяцев назад

    I needed this reminder that I wasn't the only one that genuinely gave a damn about the Chronicles of Narnia's series. Thanks man

  • @Bwkjam
    @Bwkjam 7 месяцев назад +2

    I love how one of C.S. Lewis most used qualifiers is “friend of JRR Tolkien”. Like he’s not as good, but dude rubbed shoulders with the GOAT of fantasy.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +4

      In fact he encouraged Tolkien and helped him so much with his drafts of Lotr that Tolkien said he would never have finished Lotr with Lewis’s unflagging friendship.
      But Tolkien’s shadow is so huge it tends to swallow his contemporaries

  • @TwinRiver100
    @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад +8

    Also if this doesn't work out, at least we'll still have the Focus on the Family Radio Dramas as far as great adaptations.
    That is, if you can find them. They might just be available in CD form only. I'm not sure ive seen them on any online platform. I did see a few people upload cut up parts on youtube about 4 or 5 years ago, but got taken out due to copyright violation and all that.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +2

      Yesssss those are so goated, I grew up listening to them and they were much of my first exposure to Narnia

    • @TwinRiver100
      @TwinRiver100 7 месяцев назад +1

      yes, they are pretty awesome

  • @caleb.a.robinson
    @caleb.a.robinson 7 месяцев назад +5

    Best video yet! Interestingly, I've been working on an essay of the same topic!

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! And I just checked out your channel and dang man you’ve got some great stuff, keep up the good work and I’ll be waiting for your Narnia essay!

  • @Batinthebelfry7
    @Batinthebelfry7 7 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent video! I agree one million percent with everything you said, except for giving Disney the rights back. Disney hasn't really been interested in making faithful adaptions of anything for a while now. Unfortunately the same is true with Netflix. I'm honestly hoping Narnia is just left alone and Netflix ends up dropping out.
    I had never heard the 90s cheeseburger Narnia treatment until now. What a disaster that would have been, LOL.

  • @andrewgilbertson5672
    @andrewgilbertson5672 7 месяцев назад +1

    Okay, the use of the Cars clip around the 8-minute mark made me guffaw out loud. Subscribing.

  • @TheManyVoicesVA
    @TheManyVoicesVA 7 месяцев назад +1

    Disney has been BOMBING with their big Blockbusters. I doubt they would buy back the rights to invest hundreds of millions into a Narnia continuation.

  • @scrambled5948
    @scrambled5948 7 месяцев назад +7

    I genuinely don’t believe that that 90’s version was real

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад

      IK it’s hard to believe a studio could get it so wrong😂

  • @camwedel
    @camwedel 7 месяцев назад +2

    FANTASTIC video! You played perfectly to Nostalgia and painted the ideal picture of what could be. Aslan willing.

  • @LeFlurLeflaEshkoshka
    @LeFlurLeflaEshkoshka 7 месяцев назад +2

    Ronnie Coleman goes perfectly with that battle 😂

  • @tanji998
    @tanji998 7 месяцев назад +4

    What an amazing video analysis.
    Loved every single second of it.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed!

  • @NCC1371
    @NCC1371 7 месяцев назад +3

    Saw all those movies back in the day. Prince Caspian wasnt even on my radar. Continued to watch TLTWW regularly. Baught Prince caspian on dvd near the end of high school and enjoyed it greatly. Marketing for Dawn Treader was ass. I only knew it was a thing because of those "get outside and play" PSAs. Saw Dawn Treader did care as much for it but still didn't understand why it wasn't good enough for the next movie to be made.

  • @vonsowards1297
    @vonsowards1297 7 месяцев назад +8

    When it comes to expanding the story beyond what Lewis wrote, I mostly agree with you, but I wouldn’t wholly be against original story AS LONG AS they writing 100% in the mindset of being faithful to Lewis’s themes and core beliefs. They can’t make spin off story that has no Christian message behind it or worse has a “modern audiences” take on things.

  • @uncladoutlaw4438
    @uncladoutlaw4438 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love stumbling across a lovable RUclipsr with a good sense of humor! Great vid mate!

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson1588 7 месяцев назад

    Your care and appreciation for the source material and adaptations really come through in this video!

  • @PFlegendary7
    @PFlegendary7 7 месяцев назад +1

    THANK YOU! I agree with using the og actors for the other books. They're at the perfect age to reprise their roles! I also consider it a great idea to make The Magician's Nephew as a series, so they could give a detailed version on how Narnia was created instead of rushing it in one film.

  • @Rainbowxpride89
    @Rainbowxpride89 7 месяцев назад +1

    Will Poulter's performance was iconic.

  • @tedkincaid372
    @tedkincaid372 7 месяцев назад +1

    Liam Neeson playing Aslan also made it amazing. So they would need to get someone just as good.

  • @meatloph
    @meatloph 7 месяцев назад +1

    The only studio I could imagine having enough respect for the original work, would be Angel Studios. Anybody else simply won’t have the reference for the inferred concepts, and what Lewis was actually trying to achieve

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад

      Angel would get people passionate about the project but nowhere near the funds or talent needed. The highest their audience can fund is maybe $30 Million

  • @tedsowards
    @tedsowards 7 месяцев назад +8

    They should re-film the ending scenes now that the kids are the right age and release it in cinemas.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +1

      That would be kinda cool ngl, at the very least as a fun bonus feature

  • @EverythingInTheFrame
    @EverythingInTheFrame 7 месяцев назад +2

    Would’ve been cool if they adapted the horse and his boy with the original cast

  • @aisarete
    @aisarete 7 месяцев назад +1

    I've been imagining what I'd want to see - I think your timeline is absolutely perfect. I dearly hope they do something like this

  • @DrFranklynAnderson
    @DrFranklynAnderson 7 месяцев назад +3

    If I remember right, Walden Media actually produced the films with Disney simply distributing the first two, much like they originally did with Pixar. Though to be honest, at this point I’d trust an AI trained on the books and the first three to make the remaining films more than anyone in Hollywood.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hmm ok gotcha, I know that Walden has pivoted to lower budget lower risk projects at this point so unfortunately don’t think they’d be interested

  • @trzascan
    @trzascan 7 месяцев назад +18

    I have a decent amount of trust in Greta, after little women I think she could perfectly capture the sibling dynamic.

    • @Laura.K.
      @Laura.K. 7 месяцев назад +3

      With feminist nonsense? No way.

    • @enkryptron
      @enkryptron 7 месяцев назад +5

      Narnia is at its core a Christian story; I don't think that resonates well with Greta 'woke' sensibilities.

    • @Telmarine55
      @Telmarine55 7 месяцев назад +2

      Just becaus Greta is a progressive doesn’t mean she can’t write a good adaptation. She is a fan of the books. A good writer can make that distinction. I’m sure she will.

    • @CloneCaptainRex7567
      @CloneCaptainRex7567 7 месяцев назад

      @@enkryptron Christianity and ''wokeness'' arent mutually exclusive, if you think that you dont understand what Jesus embodies and its fucking sad, bro

    • @enkryptron
      @enkryptron 7 месяцев назад

      And you do? Mr. Rando of the internet with a potty mouth. Jesus wouldn't approve. @@CloneCaptainRex7567

  • @EpicTastyPapple
    @EpicTastyPapple 7 месяцев назад +3

    That film score defined my homework sessions all through out my life

  • @danofsteel9092
    @danofsteel9092 7 месяцев назад +4

    Narnia is something else. I really hope the new Netflix movies do the series justice.

  • @TheShowmanMovies
    @TheShowmanMovies 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wow really surprised to see the number of viewers after watching this, so well edited. Excellent job. Algorithm just needs to lock in on you!

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much! Fingers crossed on the algorithm, but at least comments like yours help the algo find this so thanks for that as well!

  • @Tweed_Tone
    @Tweed_Tone 7 месяцев назад +4

    Amazing video, I never read the books or dived deep into what happens next in the story. I still wondered where the “next” Narnia film was since I knew there were still more story with the books and all.

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks so much! I’d highly recommend a read of the books, you won’t regret it. Though it’s branded as “children’s fantasy” the author personally thought that any children’s literature that only appealed to children was bad literature, and it shows since they’re so enjoyable for any age

    • @RamonInNZ
      @RamonInNZ 7 месяцев назад +1

      Read the books..... read the booooooks!!!! 🙂

  • @AzraelThanatos
    @AzraelThanatos 7 месяцев назад +1

    You missed the issue with Dawn Treader of Disney sabotaging it with the rights there to create a mess.
    Dawn Treader is also the one story that pretty much would require a lot of changes no matter what they did if they were going for a movie, mainly because it's very much an episodic setup with the islands and to have a movie, you need a more focused story (but it would make a great series or miniseries).
    Also, the 90's did have a Narnia adaptation, the BBC did up through the Silver Chair and those were rather good

  • @godsoloved24
    @godsoloved24 7 месяцев назад +2

    Just waiting for them to "reimagine it for modern audiences" and then watching the franchise burn to the ground.

  • @dylanchristensen7716
    @dylanchristensen7716 7 месяцев назад

    Tbh I totally remember the first Narnia film. My 6 year old brain was so fascinated by the first film with the approachable fantasy-filmed setting. I hate to say this, but when I saw Prince Caspian I had no clue what was going on lol

  • @RabidNemo
    @RabidNemo 6 месяцев назад +1

    I will say I gave the voyage of the Dawn treader quite a bit of leeway because it was one of my favorite books out of the series

  • @PbG-uz1gx
    @PbG-uz1gx 7 месяцев назад +3

    Im still bummed that we have yet to get The Silver Chair. Easily my favorite Narnia book

    • @mythwest
      @mythwest  7 месяцев назад +1

      Douglas Gresham said that the early scripts for it were some of the best of any Narnia movie yet, but after a shakeup in studio leadership they tried to change it to an awful agenda driven movie, so it may be for the best that it didn’t move forward
      Still bummed tho

    • @NSMITH8516
      @NSMITH8516 7 месяцев назад

      actually we techniqually do have the silver chair in the 80s bbc adapted a mini series of 4 of the Narnia books. LWW PC VD and the silver chair. while most of this mini series suck the silver chair is actually quite good if you can push past the weaker special effects you can watch it here if you want ruclips.net/video/qaw3S-wqLY0/видео.html

  • @mistymarshall5438
    @mistymarshall5438 7 месяцев назад

    "It's like trying to replace Brendan Frasier in "The Mummy".
    Boris Karloff: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @zalabit927
    @zalabit927 7 месяцев назад +1

    Lmao i loved the 2008 box office part💀
    5:25

  • @Telmarine55
    @Telmarine55 7 месяцев назад +1

    The only thing I hate about Disney taking back its series is that there is a huge chance that they would recast Eustace. I hate recasting of actors in a role. Outside of that, it’s certainly possible.
    I would even be ok with Will Poulter still being cast as Eustace but made to look younger.

  • @tomasarni2163
    @tomasarni2163 7 месяцев назад +2

    Prince Caspian was an incredible movie.

  • @KatalovesLinkinPark
    @KatalovesLinkinPark 7 месяцев назад +1

    How I wish the original cast would come back.
    Back when the first Narnia Movie came out, William Moseley and Anna Popplewell were my first actor crushes.
    Also all you mentioned. First movie was absolutlely perfect.

  • @emmamorris6947
    @emmamorris6947 7 месяцев назад

    The most fundamental thing they got wrong right at the start, was to portray Edmund as being put upon by his brother, thus already forming a rift before meeting Jadis. In the book, it is quite clear all siblings were equal together and that it was a choice Edmund made for himself, not a preset inclination to do so with a previous history with his siblings. This completely altars the nuances and meaning CS Lewis was going for.

  • @aNeighbour
    @aNeighbour 6 месяцев назад +1

    I will never forgive Disney for failing to complete my childhood series....

  • @firenze6478
    @firenze6478 7 месяцев назад +4

    I mean Narnia is heavily Christian inspired and Disney is well….
    The opposite. 👿

  • @MrCamel2humps
    @MrCamel2humps 7 месяцев назад +1

    The Ronnie Coleman screams kills me 😂😭🤣

  • @johnmichinock752
    @johnmichinock752 7 месяцев назад +2

    Something a Narnia adaptation can NEVER leave out is the obvious Christian themes & imagery. The books are an allegory, and are the core to the series. If you remove that, you might as well not adapt it.

  • @KraigFang
    @KraigFang 7 месяцев назад +1

    Growing up I loved the books, way way before the Hollywood movies. I’m talking when the BBC tried making a few of them and the graphics were hilarious. But the books…. Ahhh I loved them 😂

  • @Jokl92
    @Jokl92 7 месяцев назад +3

    I would love to see the silver chair. One of my favourite books! LEt's hope for some good stuff!

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 7 месяцев назад +2

    8:03 that weak "yay" killed me

    • @Telmarine55
      @Telmarine55 7 месяцев назад

      It’s great when someone is funny when they kind of not trying to be. I laughed too.

    • @qmyers367
      @qmyers367 7 месяцев назад

      I feel like that response could be used for a lot of sequels and remakes Disney does..lol

  • @Prodigious1One
    @Prodigious1One 7 месяцев назад

    LOL, I like your addition of music to the battle scenes!

  • @americanbard1721
    @americanbard1721 7 месяцев назад +8

    Your videos are always good, but this takes the cake. You only added a little bit of sarcasm, but it went a long way. I think you could use slightly more sarcasm, but not too much. The humor, combined with the good premise makes for a great video.

    • @PacdemonStudios1
      @PacdemonStudios1 7 месяцев назад +1

      Never watched a video and thought "yeah I'd love it if this person was less genuine while explaining this"

  • @timnordin6230
    @timnordin6230 7 месяцев назад +1

    It's the transcendent elements that give the series staying power. I agree with many of the other posts, these are elements Disney is certain to fumble, if not destroy.