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Professor Moore, I thought I knew how bad the situation was with regard to self-ID. I barely knew the half of it! Thanks for your clarity and bravery in defence of children and vulnerable teenagers.
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Thank you Professor Moore, you are a brave and admirable woman, and I hope you are not silenced. Please know that there are many people out here who are also very worried, not only about the issue, but also about the attempt to quash debate. I hope your employers are big enough to recognise this is an important discussion to have and support you all the way.
Michelle, I had the pleasure of being taught by you around 1997 at Sheffield Hallam Uni on a Psychology degree. I found this video while looking you up after you introduced me to the concept of disability often existing outside of the individual, outwith a 'disabling society', and that provisions and design would make the disability less visible, even non-existent. I'm so grateful for this and I'm writing a course for people to understand autism. I just wanted to add my support here. You want a discussion. That's what research and society does. We explore all options, including people with opposing views. There are no no-go areas especially when the stakes are high. Whether people agree or disagree, the silencing treatment has been foul and based on crude dichotomies of 'Are you With us/Against us'. I know your ethics, values, and spirit. :)
Thank you Professor Moore. You’re talk is so correct. My daughter suddenly came out as trans and thanks to trans activists they were able to give her a step by step guide almost of how to act and what to say to be able to become an “informed minor” and get social security payments and state housing to move out and continue her change to a “male” without hinderance from us. I’ve met other parents in my position and they’ve had similar stories. They worry about teens becoming suicidal but what about the wreckage they leave behind? The leave so many broken people in the wake of their coming out. Please continue to speak out. We desperately need more like you!
Oh my God! I'm just catching onto this but I'm so sorry to hear this. Astonishing this could have happened and is still happening... and getting worse! We must stop this movement. I'd like to recommend last night's Newsnight if you haven't watched it already
Thank you! Fortunately the parents who are affected by this are starting to be heard. Look up Our Duty, Transgender Trend, Parents of ROGD if you want to hear more.
Your bravery, clarity and compassion for children is inspirational Professor Moore. Thank you for speaking out for our children in defiance of the personal cost to yourself.
I was an out and out tomboy. I hated my female body. I wouldn't wear tights or skirts. I was like this in he 70's. Today I might well have transitioned. I'm now 30+years married to a lovely guy who likes my strength and isn't in the least bit bothered I hate dresses and skirts and have 2 grown up kids. I still don't feel girly in the least but I would hate to be in a quasi male body. Or some half way house, male on top and female down below.
fudgefase the modern definition of “girly”, doesn’t sit well with more girls than we know. I too am like that but I had the luck to grow with readings/culture that admired warrior females (as opposed to weak girly). The style we prefer does not cancel us being women. 💪💃
I absolutely agree with everything you say. As well as being misogynistic this movement is deeply regressive, if you like cars you're a boy if you like dolls you're a girl, how outdated is that?
Bless your heart for your courage and willingness to fight for the true rights of young people--no matter what it costs you personally. You are a warrior!
Well done Michele. My one regret about retiring from teaching is that I have no platform or influence in schools anymore. Keep banging the drum! Facts will prevail in the end.
Lyn Smith Very happy to have come across this very much needed probe into the murky depths of state ownership of our children, state over-ruling parental legal guardianship, and other unsavoury aspects of our increasingly nutty society.
Heartfelt thank you, from a Mum who knows the shocking damage Camhs/the Tavistock cause with their reckless affirmation only approach to a vulnerable acutely mentally unwell adolescent on the autistic spectrum, other comorbid debilitating mental health issues were ignored but the gender issue was 100% embraced, and celebrated from the outset. I’d heard less hard sell from double glazing salespeople than I heard at appt#1 with a Tavistock Clinic Consultant psychologist. I asked the nhs for a more balanced view, I became the enemy.
Excellent speech. Such bravery standing up against the bullying of Transactivists & their allies. It highlights the cowardice of our politicians & organisations who claim to ‘protect’ children.
I applaud you for bringing attention to this issue. I can't imagine the backlash you are receiving. I thought it was bad in Canada but at least the schools don't transition kids without their parents'consent...yet
JK Rowling's tweet helped me open my eyes to what is going on. The recent Tavistock centre investigation has confirmed a lot of what is being said here. I feel quite worried about what is going on.
Excellent. First class. Clear, concise and with passion. Now, hold 'yer hat on here.... I write as a man. Not a single foray into the feminist discourse. No word about the patriarchy. Misogyny never mentioned. And because of this, unlikely to put the backs up of ordinary off-the-shelf bog standard men. Like me. So this is a very useful campaigning resource. Also M Moore say, sometimes "If I'm right". That little bit of possible doubt is stronger than 100% certainty. . Theo Hopkins
Thank you so much for doing this. You are very brave. The GRA consultation form hardly mentions the effect of the changes on children - it seems to focus just on the effects on adult trans people, so your perspective is really important.
Such a well articulate speaker, thank you so much for all your efforts and hard work I stand with you in the deeply concerning situation that young girls are faced with today, especially on the social contagion of online rhetoric and bullying regarding who and what girls are if they refuse to be apart of the 'trans' agenda. Young girls are ostracized and made scapegoats if they believe that nobody is born in the wrong body and that clearly they see another young girl in front of them and not a boy, that they are being gaslighted , shunned and abused because they refuse to go along with the lies. This is the other side of those also being caught up with trying to be "cool" and "special" crowd that happens in early teenage years because they are after attention and power and leverage over a perceived weaker girl, because she will not be bullied , they will be targeted , by gangs of bullies , and this is what happens on line especially when they have the "trans train" hurtling at them and threatening them .
Thank you for your bravery and commitment to the truth. It sounds as though the official position on dealing with such children contradicts several areas of Safeguarding and Child Protection, such as emotional and sexual abuse and online grooming (which it ignores). It is emphasised in Safeguarding Training that you listen to the child and don't lead them on. The situation is terrible
Note to all. In the UK, we have to preserve freedom of speech. We have to preserve the responsibility authority of parents - if school makes a decision on a child's gender without any reference to their parents, then that is a terrifying repeat of 1930s Central Europe fascism. We have to keep the state out of our personal lives, because it has no idea. In the end, the issue is bigger than transgender - it's about the nature of our entire society and who is dictating to us what it is.
Powerful, thank you for your bravery! So happy to see cause we know the backlash will...! Also happy to see the comment section is there to be used no matter what side specific people may be on, refreshing considering the BBC and co just turn it off to avoid displaying real peoples responses soon as a subject is "sensitive" and understanding full well what the majority will feel about it, heck even bots cannot and comment cheating can fix that storm.
Well said. I am a post operative Trans Identified Male - and not only have I been through the entire system, but I have met a large number of those who are politically motivated Transgender advocates and either work for/with such organisations as Gendered Intelligence and Stonewall. I can confirm that these people have absolutely no interest in the well-being of those that are either medically diagnosed as Transsexual (like myself), nor those that self identify and fail to conform to the postmodern Neomarxist dogma that now appears to be the primary motivator in pushing this noxious ideology into the mainstream and having it enshrined as a fresh new anti-science pseudo-religion - one that is backed up by the medical fraternity, educationalists, the police, judiciary and government itself. I am sure that everyone here is familiar with the grossly offensive - and sometimes actually violent way that 'Trans Activists' behave not only online but in real life too - I myself had Human faeces stuffed through my letterbox for failure to conform to Dogma; I am a Heretic. In speaking out against Self ID, I have been banned from Twitter twice, had multiple 30 day sanctions on Facebook for so-called 'hate speech', and have generally had my life made a misery by these people... it is they that have made me deeply regret my decision - and having stopped taking the hormones about 20 months ago as a personal social experiment, I am not sure if I was in the right state of mind to even MAKE such a life altering decision after 7 years of 8mg of Oestrogen a day. Since ceasing this 'treatment', I have pretty much returned to 'normal', though - of course, my body is now mutilated and I can barely stand to look at myself in great detail - one might, I suppose, describe it as a form of PTSD. I have had precious little help from the NHS, who - I feel , have simply put my to the bottom of the pile as some kind of failed experiment. I want to applaud all those involved with A Woman's Place UK for standing up for rationality, Enlightenment Values and Objective Reality - believe me when I say that the people driving this ideology are downright nefarious characters and transgenderism is merely the poison on the postmodernist arrow being shot into the body politic by Hard Left Globalist Elites with the express intention of undermining the values of Western Society. Please don't think me a raving conspiracy theorist here - everyone that might read this KNOWS that billions are being spent and millions are being made - one look at the likes of Paris Lees and Munroe Bergdorf should be proof positive of that. I urge you all to keep going - whilst this is too far gone to be nipped in the bud - the branch is infected and needs to be removed, lest the entire tree die. The fall out from this in years to come has an enormity all it's own - not only in the mutilated bodies, broken lives and destroyed families - but on a societal level itself. To swear into Law - the statute books and into the very fabric of government itself, a rejection of Objective Reality in favour of subjective feelings, (feelings that can be manipulated so easily - especially amongst the young), is not only wrong at the fundamental level, but tantamount to lunacy. Finally, on a personal note - I would love to speak to someone, anyone - about my experiences... I know I am in need of psychological help and plagued with suicidal ideation - but have no one to fill that role. I no longer trust Doctors - and seeing the odious Dr. Adrian Harrop's online antics - trust them even less now. If anyone out there IS interested in talking to me about what happened - I would be sincerely grateful for the intervention.
Wow I am so sorry you have been going through This! I wish I knew someone who could help. I do know psychologists - would you be happy to discuss over the internet as I'm assuming that you do not live in New Zealand, which is where I am from?
infamousT infamousT Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope you have been able to find some assistance and someone to talk to. I’m not an expert in the area of gender dysphoria but would be happy to talk. I wanted to private message you but am not sure how to do that? Any ideas how?
3099 girls (aged between 10 to 16) were referred to the Tavistock's GIDS (Gender Identity Development Services)clinic between January 2017 and December 2018. 979 boys (in the same age group) were referred in the same two year period. in 2006 only 49 youngsters were referred to the GIDS clinic in that year.
Society is confusing children and I can’t imagine how difficut it must be to be a child in the UK right now......This no doubt contributes to the rise in child mental health right now. Those stupid adverts by celebreties to ‘speak with your children’ was not helpful since the other adults in schools speaking with them are excluding parents from the discussion and ignoring any views which are shared......
This is probably the best primer for people who do not understand the controversy about gender identity ideology. You know the ones - the ‘just be kind’ crew.
I wonder about the next 20 years when kids who have transitioned on a teenage whim realize what has been allowed to be done to them. These activists are scary people.
@@fudgefase done to them? People transition by their own choice. No child is in transition. Hoemones are restricted til 16. Surgery til 18. Freedom of expression of children is all that is happening.
fudgefase Many women are in that very situation & are being attacked for speaking out about their experience..it’s known as detransition. A lot of vitriol from trans activists using the media to discredit them. situation it’s odd & sinister actually
This woman is brilliant. Is she on Twitter? You can hear the emotion in her voice. I wish I was clever enough to help. I'm trying but think I mess it up more than help. X
Trans activists, who don't necessarily represent actual transsexuals, and the activists are being funded largely by Big pharma. Follow the money! And they don't care about our kids!
here in new zealand, during covid, without any public consultation, advertisement or debate, the law was changed allowing people to alter their gender on passports, birth certificates at will. this just happened. and there is zero interest and zero discussion by press etc. despite the ramifications being... unknowable... enormous. it's horrifying.
It's worth wondering why, if all this is clearly contrary to the opinions of the majority, these policies and practices have so quickly and so completely been taken up by administration in schools, universities, and workplaces. It is because school boards, university departments, and politicians have abrogated responsibility for decisions, and have delegated decision-making to activists and special interest groups. Instead of shaping policy with the benefits of all in mind, policy is determined on the basis of what is best for the special interest group. So we end up with policies that are not in the interests of the common good.
"or heaven forbid change their minds. As 80% of them do." I wasn't aware of that particular statistic, and immediately thought bullsh*t but i verified it. 10 studies, the most recent done in 2013, have concluded that 80 out of 100 trans identifying trans children accept their biological gender when reaching adulthood. That is not the discourse that is being had, and speaks to the volatility of young developing minds, as well as the lack of care for being well informed discussion about these topics. I am flabbergasted.
How much does the trans ideology have to do with post-modern views on science and knowledge? So much of what I read has this transhumanism or posthumanism perspective. I just wonder how this became so mainstream?
I have for a LONG time suspected that some of the current boom in numbers identifying as Trans is essential due to a new Subcolture trend, like with Goths, Emos, Hippies, Mods n Rockers etc. It has ALL of the characteristics!
I'm a CIS male and I'm genuinely just interested in this "counter argument" to trans rights. Firstly, Moore starts by saying she's done great research and wrote a book on this topic, then later cites such reliable sources as, "a friend at a school nearby" .. .I'm sorry, but if you've wrote a book and have reliable evidence to back up your claims: USE IT!! Cite it! Impress us with your facts and figures. So then she claims: 80% of transgender people "Change their mind"? Again... Evidence of this? ... "People on Tumblr tell children they must move ahead with their gender identity or they'll face feelings of suicide.... Young people don't have a choice once they self-identify. Surgery scars can become infected...." In her story about the parents whose child was moved to foster care: Is the point here, not that the parents wouldn't accept their child's identity and thus the child could not live safely in that home? If parents don't want to accept a child's gender identity, that's one thing but in order to keep your child, surely you have to try and work through that, using acceptance and love. Or maybe they just didn't love their child enough? Many gay people have experienced rejection by their families from their homes, it's not a new story. Who's to blame in those situations? The gay people? YEP... Moore is scaremongering. She's a person who distrusts trans people. I was willing to consider the idea that children self-identify as another gender, because of social influence and that if we take this away then there would be no trans children, but we don't live in a hypothetical vacuum, we live in a world where trans people exist. A world where trans hate exists too. What is better for children? To feel hated and excluded, or accepted and loved? Moore says that children aren't given time to work through and consider their gender identity, and are coerced into taking medication. She's trying to paint trans people as enemies of children and dangerous to children, ultimately, but she lacks any real argument outside of being reactionary and playing on people's fears, there's no substance to her argument: Who are these scary people coercing children into taking medicine and going for surgery? Can anyone point me towards a video (or two) where someone makes an actual FACT based argument against trans rights, rather than this nonsense?
Here you go. Tavistock data has it at 90% desistance for children who don't go on puberty blockers, but other studies have it as not quite that high which is probably why Dr. Moore says 80%: wpath2016.conferencespot.org/62620-wpathv2-1.3138789/t001-1.3140111/f009a-1.3140266/0706-000523-1.3140268
And the appendix in James Cantor's article here lists all peer-reviewed research as of 2018 on desistance with its outcomes. His data does not include Tavistock's because while that was presented at WPATH 2016, it had not been published. Hope this helps you: www.jamescantor.org/uploads/6/2/9/3/62939641/cantor_fact-check_of_aap.pdf
Research is discussed in many of the interviews in this series, but also many first-hand accounts from desisters and therapists on the subject: m.ruclips.net/p/PLRdayXEOwuMH3f0pmZqVQUU62rgJIzvt9
@@lizs6425 Have you actually understood what is being said in these links that you have provided? They don't answer all the questions being made by the original poster. 1) The sample size is small at 44 children. 2) 'approximately 2% to 27% of younger children with Gender Dysphoria were likely to persist with their cross-gender identification following puberty' - I thought this was a study, there shouldn't be such a wide variable between 2% to 27%. A proper study would be able to tell you exactly how many of the 44 children in the sample size persisted after puberty. This devalues everything that follows in the study. 3) What variables have been considered as to why a child with gender dysphoria would decide not to follow through after reaching the age of 18? Have they been pressured by parents? Have they been bullied at school? Has any qualitative study been performed to find out why these children decided not to pursue transition? Has any longevity study been conducted to see if these children decided to transition later in life or if they had any gender identity problems later in life? What are the attempted suicide statistics of these children? As someone who has suffered gender dysphoria all my life, and as someone who has spoken to over 400 people with gender dysphoria, some who have transition, some who have not. I can tell you that dysphoria does not go away. There are medical studies with sample sizes in the hundreds covering almost 1,000 people in 4 different countries and 5 different studies demonstrating that true gender dysphoria does not go away. It is hardwired into us. Think of it like the sea, it is always there lapping at the shore and now and again the tide comes in and the dysphoria worsens, and then the tide goes out and the dysphoria falls into the background until the next tide but it is ALWAYS there in the background. Eventually you get hit by a tsunami. 4) '50% of the cases were persisting in their wish to live in their non-assigned gender post-pubertally (at age 16) and were actively expressing the wish to progress with physical treatments.' OK so now we have a real figure based on the sample size. 50% is a lot less than the 80% quoted or the higher figure that you are suggesting. Again, no follow up study as to why those who chose not to progress dropped out of the program. 5) 'no patient within the sample desisted after having started on the hypothalamic blocker. 90.3% of young people who did not commence the blocker desisted.' - All this demonstrates is that all those who were confident enough in their identity to take blockers progressed and only 10% of those who were not confident to start blockers continued with the program. Again no follow up study on those who desisted. It doesn't really prove anything. Certainly not what you think it says.
@@lizs6425 'The only specific claim was that studies (whether early or late) had limited follow-up periods' - That is literally the only thing you can conclude from that paper. Again, is there any follow up of people in their 40s, in their 50s, even in their 60s. What other variables have been considered? Have they looked at the age of these studies and the social context in which they occur? I spent all my life hiding that I had gender dysphoria, I spent all my life trying to be manly, and I vigorously defended my secret against any suggestion that I might be a 'sissy' (my father's term). I defended my secret against prying consultants, doctors, family, friends, strangers... I would've fought someone before revealing my secret. So how accurate can these studies truly be? They need a lot more work and the social context in which they occur is vital. I would've got a beating if I had told a doctor as a child that I was a girl. My father would've punched the hell out of me afterwards. You think I would've told the doctor the truth about how I felt? No chance.
Here is a simple question... at what age did you know if you were a girl or a boy? Did you have to wait until you were 18 before knowing? The simple truth is that almost all children know if they are a boy or girl before they start school. Just like most transchildren know that there is something wrong with their identity before they start school. I knew there was something wrong when I was 2 years old in playgroup. The fact that you don't suffer from gender dysphoria means you have absolutely no idea what it feels like. Let me fill you in a bit because this video is spouting rubbish and how Michelle Moore can be considered a professor of Inclusive Education and Disability Studies is beyond me. 1) no children under the age of 18 are prescribed hormones other than blockers. Some might seek them on the black market but nobody is given them before the age of 18. They are given puberty blockers that merely delays puberty until the age of 18 when they can then make a decision. At any time while taking the blockers, they can change their mind and come off them, thus going through puberty as normal. To say that they are prescribed gender changing hormones is a lie. 2) I have no idea if I told my parents that I was a girl when I was 2 years old or not. What I do know is that I was repeatedly told that I was a boy and not a sissy. That only sissies read fiction books, that only sissies play with dolls, that only sissies play dress up or wear make up. I was encouraged to get into fights to 'toughen me up'. My father used to instigate fights with my friends and push me into them. I was told that only sissies cry. I was told by my grandmother than she only loves boys and hates girls (much to the upset of my sister). When a babysitter played dress up with me, she was never hired again and my father went nuts about it. If I did anything feminine I got my backside tanned. I was made to go hunting with my father (my sister was never allowed to come), I was made to help with the killing of the animals on the farm (my sister was never allowed to come), I was encouraged to do masculine things. At no point in my childhood was I nurtured to be transgender. 3) because of my upbringing I tried my best to suppress it. I tried my best to be masculine. Later in life I took up weightlifting, martial arts, grew a beard... I did everything that I could to be a man and it made me more and more and more depressed. I never once stopped wishing to be female. 4) I tried to cut off my genitals several times between the ages of 13 and 17 but could never force myself to do it. I would stand for hours with my genitals on the chopping board with a large knife trying to force the knife down but each time the first nick in the skin stopped me. I tried to take my own life when I was 18 years old because I could not make the dysphoria stop. I hoped that I would be reborn female... either in reincarnation or in heaven. I looked for answers in religion. I prayed every evening before bed, every morning and every spare moment of the day to wake up with the correct body. And when that didn't work, I sought to make a pact with the devil for the same. When that didn't work, I looked at other religions. I went through them all before concluding that it was just a bunch of fairytales. 5) I would do anything to make my dysphoria go away. I did not choose to be transgender, I was born this way. Nobody chooses to be transgender. Just look at the lack of acceptance in the comments. Just look at the exclusionary and dismissive speech you have posted in this video. We are second class citizens hated by society because of videos like this one. 6) I knew I wasn't supposed to be a boy from a very early age and my childhood was pure hell because of it. I was constantly bullied at school not only by the children but by the teachers too. I spent the bulk of my childhood isolated. I had friends now and again but the bullies would target them for being my friend and those friendships rarely stayed for long. Some people tried to be my friend in secret outside of school but at school the same 'friends' joined my tormentors. This was all while trying to hide my true self, trying my best to be one of the boys. If I came out as transgender then I would've been crucified. There was a transwoman in my village who was called names, had stones thrown at her, had her windows smashed all by the children at my school. I was attacked because I refused to join in. My life was miserable. When I became older and left school, I found myself drinking heavily and doing dangerous things because I just wanted to die. Since then, I've found a group that has helped me, I am finally starting to come out and be myself because of the peer support. Without it I would continue to hide and suffer. I have also found that there are members of the group who went to the same school as me at the same time as me. This idea that it is peer pressure to come out as trans is nonsense. The reason they tend to come out in clusters is because it takes a lot of courage to come out at all because of all the hate and misinformation spread about us (like this video). Coming out on your own in such a hostile environment is near on impossible for most adults let alone children. 7) Anti-racism 'ideology', Christianity 'ideology', British values 'ideology'... have all had more access to British schools than transgender awareness teaching. 8) Nobody thinks that a girl who likes to play football is transgender. Nobody forces a child to identify as transgender. That is false argument that cannot be supported with facts. 'I think...' without supported evidence is nothing more than opinion. You complain about teachers pushing children to identify as transgender while claiming that they are taking away the choice of self-identification, but isn't this entire speech about denying transgender people the right to self-identify? Isn't it you who are trying to take away that freedom? Can you provide any real evidence of teachers forcing children to be transgender? Or are you just going to cling to the excuses made by parents who refuse to accept their child is transgender? Trying to beat the trans out of a child doesn't work... I and many people I know can vouch for that. 9) There is a LOT of evidence demonstrating that transgender people who suffer from gender dysphoria and undergo surgery are happier after the surgery. The number of cases where this is not true are minimal in comparison and usually because there was another underlying cause for that person's decision, complications in the surgery, and/or social abuse and lack of acceptance by wider society (particularly dating). See: Ainsworth and Speigel (2010), Bailey, Ellis & McNeil (2014), Bouman et al (2016), Boza and Nicholson (2014), Heylens et al. (2014).... and on and on. 10) Not all transgender people suffer from gender dysphoria but for those that do, it is very much a biological physical cause that has now been proven with a sample size of about 1,000 transgender people both male and female, in 4 different countries and 5 different medical labs, demonstrating that dysphoria is caused by small differences in the brain that more closely mirror the gender that a person identifies with. This is now scientifically proven until someone can produce a study of similar sample size and confirmed in multiple medical labs that disproves it. This isn't opinion anymore. People with dysphoria are born transgender. It isn't a choice, it is physical differences in their brain. SO their exclusion because they have been born differently is similar to people who are born with more visible disabilities. The fact that they want to undergo surgery to make them feel better about themselves is no different either. If you have a surgical cure that can help someone who was born incapable of walking, walk then I bet they would want the surgery. If you could make a blind child see again through surgery, then they will want the surgery. It is absolutely nonsense to suggest otherwise. 11) AGAIN... nobody is giving children hormones. There are no 'girls' taking puberty blockers who have full masculine beards. Finally, as for being silenced... There are people talking out against trans people all the time in the press... this video isn't exactly being silenced is it? A person with similar beliefs to the speaker was recently invited to a debate at the Scottish Parliament, there was NO trans representative to provide a counter argument to what was being said. At this talk in the video were there any transgender speakers to dispute what Moore was saying? So who is it that is being silenced here? It is certainly not Moore, she has a book published and she is giving a talk in Newcastle tonight. Nobody is silencing her... but there are no transgender representatives providing a counter argument... this is a 'debate' of one because ultimately what is being 'debated' here is the refusal to acknowledge that transgender children exist. There is no debate because you deny our existence. It is transgender people who are being silenced. We are being told that our opinion does not count because we are delusional. You refuse to believe that we suffer from gender dysphoria. Despite the overwhelming scientific evidence, you refuse to believe that this is anything other than choice. You think that transmen are merely delusional butch lesbians... and you call that inclusive?
You were emotionally abused by your father to not be the boy you actually were. You were fed gender stereotyping rhetoric and made to believe you were wrong. This is abuse and changes the way you feel about yourself. It's no surprise that being treated this way has compounded your confusion.
I'm very sorry to see how you were treated, abused by your father. This is a very common factor in the childhood stories of transwomen. Gender was used as a tool to abuse you and make you feel there was something wrong with you. Parts of you were not accepted or even allowed & you were made to feel they were only permissible in women. Gender is a harmful concept, it harmed your father & he used it to harm you in turn.
Gender is not assigned. Sex is a biological reality (facts) determined by the body parts you possess. Gender is a social construct based on stereotypes that limit the ability of people to express themselves in a binary way. Transgenderism reinforces these stereotypes.
Authentic Gay Blog No one can change sex, but we can have a world in which they can have whatever personality and lifestyle they want. The TRA agenda requires that a boy who likes pink or dolls be pushed into drugs and surgery and a girl who likes climbing trees be given a binder. Why not let the the children do ALL those things. Why must they choose?
@@LisaMichele People who are transgender are much more open to non-binary people, many identify as non-binary. After my suicide attempt I learned to create a non-binary world and I refused to see gender, only people. I survived like that for over 20 years and the biggest challenge to my bubble was feminism. It is your agenda that is reinforcing gender and gender stereotypes by insisting on a gender binary that cannot be challenged. My non-binary world was shattered when I was forced to be a gender that I did not identify with... and that is exactly what you are doing.
@@-Shadesofmeaning Nobody is doing that. You are just scaremongering. By reinforcing the gender binary it is you that are reinforcing gender stereotypes.
Well done Michele. My one regret about retiring from teaching is that I have no platform or influence in schools anymore. Keep banging the drum! Facts will prevail in the end.
here in new zealand, during covid, without any public consultation, advertisement or debate, the law was changed allowing people to alter their gender on passports, birth certificates at will. this just happened. and there is zero interest and zero discussion by press etc. despite the ramifications being... unknowable... enormous. it's horrifying.
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Professor Moore, I thought I knew how bad the situation was with regard to self-ID. I barely knew the half of it! Thanks for your clarity and bravery in defence of children and vulnerable teenagers.
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Thank you Professor Moore, you are a brave and admirable woman, and I hope you are not silenced. Please know that there are many
people out here who are also very worried, not only about the issue, but also about the attempt to quash debate. I hope your employers
are big enough to recognise this is an important discussion to have and support you all the way.
Michelle, I had the pleasure of being taught by you around 1997 at Sheffield Hallam Uni on a Psychology degree. I found this video while looking you up after you introduced me to the concept of disability often existing outside of the individual, outwith a 'disabling society', and that provisions and design would make the disability less visible, even non-existent. I'm so grateful for this and I'm writing a course for people to understand autism. I just wanted to add my support here. You want a discussion. That's what research and society does. We explore all options, including people with opposing views. There are no no-go areas especially when the stakes are high. Whether people agree or disagree, the silencing treatment has been foul and based on crude dichotomies of 'Are you With us/Against us'. I know your ethics, values, and spirit. :)
Thank you Professor Moore. You’re talk is so correct. My daughter suddenly came out as trans and thanks to trans activists they were able to give her a step by step guide almost of how to act and what to say to be able to become an “informed minor” and get social security payments and state housing to move out and continue her change to a “male” without hinderance from us. I’ve met other parents in my position and they’ve had similar stories. They worry about teens becoming suicidal but what about the wreckage they leave behind? The leave so many broken people in the wake of their coming out. Please continue to speak out. We desperately need more like you!
Oh my God! I'm just catching onto this but I'm so sorry to hear this. Astonishing this could have happened and is still happening... and getting worse! We must stop this movement. I'd like to recommend last night's Newsnight if you haven't watched it already
Thank you! Fortunately the parents who are affected by this are starting to be heard. Look up Our Duty, Transgender Trend, Parents of ROGD if you want to hear more.
Your bravery, clarity and compassion for children is inspirational Professor Moore. Thank you for speaking out for our children in defiance of the personal cost to yourself.
I was an out and out tomboy. I hated my female body. I wouldn't wear tights or skirts. I was like this in he 70's. Today I might well have transitioned. I'm now 30+years married to a lovely guy who likes my strength and isn't in the least bit bothered I hate dresses and skirts and have 2 grown up kids. I still don't feel girly in the least but I would hate to be in a quasi male body. Or some half way house, male on top and female down below.
I am exactly the same as you.
Bring back TOMBOYS!!!!!!!
@@hdthornton9321 It is a bullshit word, though. Girls are never any kind of boy, no matter what their preferences are.
fudgefase the modern definition of “girly”, doesn’t sit well with more girls than we know. I too am like that but I had the luck to grow with readings/culture that admired warrior females (as opposed to weak girly).
The style we prefer does not cancel us being women. 💪💃
I absolutely agree with everything you say. As well as being misogynistic this movement is deeply regressive, if you like cars you're a boy if you like dolls you're a girl, how outdated is that?
Wonder speech Professor Moore! THANK YOU for having nerves of steel!
Muttmere
you’re sick transphobic! You’re American! Why’d you watch British RUclips????
The world needs more courageous women like you. Than you for your work.
Bless your heart for your courage and willingness to fight for the true rights of young people--no matter what it costs you personally. You are a warrior!
I agree with Professor Michele Moore 100%
Thank you for standing up and trying to protect vulnerable children. You are an amazing and indefatigable woman and I applaud you x
Thank you so much for this Professor Moore and A Woman's Place UK. Absolutely terrify what's happening. This no-platforming must stop!
Thank you for this articulate and well-researched speech, Professor Moore.
Well done Michele. My one regret about retiring from teaching is that I have no platform or influence in schools anymore. Keep banging the drum! Facts will prevail in the end.
Lyn Smith
Very happy to have come across this very much needed probe into the murky depths of state ownership of our children, state over-ruling parental legal guardianship, and other unsavoury aspects of our increasingly nutty society.
Heartfelt thank you, from a Mum who knows the shocking damage Camhs/the Tavistock cause with their reckless affirmation only approach to a vulnerable acutely mentally unwell adolescent on the autistic spectrum, other comorbid debilitating mental health issues were ignored but the gender issue was 100% embraced, and celebrated from the outset. I’d heard less hard sell from double glazing salespeople than I heard at appt#1 with a Tavistock Clinic Consultant psychologist. I asked the nhs for a more balanced view, I became the enemy.
Excellent speech. Such bravery standing up against the bullying of Transactivists & their allies. It highlights the cowardice of our politicians & organisations who claim to ‘protect’ children.
When I picked my little grand daughter 8 up from school I asked her how her day was . She replied "Nanny I can be a boy if I want" !!!! this is crazy
I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing this. Thank you thank you THANK YOU!
TY so much for what you do. You've got lots of support, even from other countries!
I applaud you for bringing attention to this issue. I can't imagine the backlash you are receiving. I thought it was bad in Canada but at least the schools don't transition kids without their parents'consent...yet
This is fantastic, what a great speaker.
You're amazing! Thank you so much for speaking up!
Lola Salem
Fuck you! You’re TERF transphobic
@@skylone4949 shh were alone in this echo chamber
Well worth the listen, so thank you. This talk describes only too well the tragic path taken by a friend's daughter who is on the autistic spectrum.
JK Rowling's tweet helped me open my eyes to what is going on. The recent Tavistock centre investigation has confirmed a lot of what is being said here. I feel quite worried about what is going on.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Well said, Professor Moore. More power to your elbow.
Excellent. First class. Clear, concise and with passion.
Now, hold 'yer hat on here....
I write as a man.
Not a single foray into the feminist discourse. No word about the patriarchy. Misogyny never mentioned. And because of this, unlikely to put the backs up of ordinary off-the-shelf bog standard men. Like me.
So this is a very useful campaigning resource.
Also M Moore say, sometimes "If I'm right". That little bit of possible doubt is stronger than 100% certainty.
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Theo Hopkins
Amazing. Thank you for having the nerves of Steel and standing up to lobbyist bullies who have threatened you!. Brilliant speech.
Thank you so much for doing this. You are very brave. The GRA consultation form hardly mentions the effect of the changes on children - it seems to focus just on the effects on adult trans people, so your perspective is really important.
Such a well articulate speaker, thank you so much for all your efforts and hard work I stand with you in the deeply concerning situation that young girls are faced with today, especially on the social contagion of online rhetoric and bullying regarding who and what girls are if they refuse to be apart of the 'trans' agenda.
Young girls are ostracized and made scapegoats if they believe that nobody is born in the wrong body and that clearly they see another young girl in front of them and not a boy, that they are being gaslighted , shunned and abused because they refuse to go along with the lies.
This is the other side of those also being caught up with trying to be "cool" and "special" crowd that happens in early teenage years because they are after attention and power and leverage over a perceived weaker girl, because she will not be bullied , they will be targeted , by gangs of bullies , and this is what happens on line especially when they have the "trans train" hurtling at them and threatening them .
This is terrifying, every day it seems to get more sinister. Professor Moore thank you for this information and your bravery
Damn well said, all of that. Couldnt' agree more with every single word.
Wow. I thought it was bad from the beginning and then it just got progressively worse and worse. Keep up the good work Professor Moore.
Thank you for having the balls to speak out, joking aside, it takes huge courage in the current climate.
Stay strong professor. Thank you for fighting.
Thank you for your bravery and commitment to the truth. It sounds as though the official position on dealing with such children contradicts several areas of Safeguarding and Child Protection, such as emotional and sexual abuse and online grooming (which it ignores). It is emphasised in Safeguarding Training that you listen to the child and don't lead them on. The situation is terrible
Note to all. In the UK, we have to preserve freedom of speech. We have to preserve the responsibility authority of parents - if school makes a decision on a child's gender without any reference to their parents, then that is a terrifying repeat of 1930s Central Europe fascism. We have to keep the state out of our personal lives, because it has no idea. In the end, the issue is bigger than transgender - it's about the nature of our entire society and who is dictating to us what it is.
Barry Strudwick, well said 👏
Your work is so important. We support you here in Brasil.
Thank you Ms. Moore, I have sent a letter defending you.
Powerful, thank you for your bravery!
So happy to see cause we know the backlash will...! Also happy to see the comment section is there to be used no matter what side specific people may be on, refreshing considering the BBC and co just turn it off to avoid displaying real peoples responses soon as a subject is "sensitive" and understanding full well what the majority will feel about it, heck even bots cannot and comment cheating can fix that storm.
Well said. I am a post operative Trans Identified Male - and not only have I been through the entire system, but I have met a large number of those who are politically motivated Transgender advocates and either work for/with such organisations as Gendered Intelligence and Stonewall. I can confirm that these people have absolutely no interest in the well-being of those that are either medically diagnosed as Transsexual (like myself), nor those that self identify and fail to conform to the postmodern Neomarxist dogma that now appears to be the primary motivator in pushing this noxious ideology into the mainstream and having it enshrined as a fresh new anti-science pseudo-religion - one that is backed up by the medical fraternity, educationalists, the police, judiciary and government itself.
I am sure that everyone here is familiar with the grossly offensive - and sometimes actually violent way that 'Trans Activists' behave not only online but in real life too - I myself had Human faeces stuffed through my letterbox for failure to conform to Dogma; I am a Heretic.
In speaking out against Self ID, I have been banned from Twitter twice, had multiple 30 day sanctions on Facebook for so-called 'hate speech', and have generally had my life made a misery by these people... it is they that have made me deeply regret my decision - and having stopped taking the hormones about 20 months ago as a personal social experiment, I am not sure if I was in the right state of mind to even MAKE such a life altering decision after 7 years of 8mg of Oestrogen a day. Since ceasing this 'treatment', I have pretty much returned to 'normal', though - of course, my body is now mutilated and I can barely stand to look at myself in great detail - one might, I suppose, describe it as a form of PTSD.
I have had precious little help from the NHS, who - I feel , have simply put my to the bottom of the pile as some kind of failed experiment.
I want to applaud all those involved with A Woman's Place UK for standing up for rationality, Enlightenment Values and Objective Reality - believe me when I say that the people driving this ideology are downright nefarious characters and transgenderism is merely the poison on the postmodernist arrow being shot into the body politic by Hard Left Globalist Elites with the express intention of undermining the values of Western Society. Please don't think me a raving conspiracy theorist here - everyone that might read this KNOWS that billions are being spent and millions are being made - one look at the likes of Paris Lees and Munroe Bergdorf should be proof positive of that.
I urge you all to keep going - whilst this is too far gone to be nipped in the bud - the branch is infected and needs to be removed, lest the entire tree die.
The fall out from this in years to come has an enormity all it's own - not only in the mutilated bodies, broken lives and destroyed families - but on a societal level itself.
To swear into Law - the statute books and into the very fabric of government itself, a rejection of Objective Reality in favour of subjective feelings, (feelings that can be manipulated so easily - especially amongst the young), is not only wrong at the fundamental level, but tantamount to lunacy.
Finally, on a personal note - I would love to speak to someone, anyone - about my experiences... I know I am in need of psychological help and plagued with suicidal ideation - but have no one to fill that role. I no longer trust Doctors - and seeing the odious Dr. Adrian Harrop's online antics - trust them even less now.
If anyone out there IS interested in talking to me about what happened - I would be sincerely grateful for the intervention.
Culture Guard and Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson have been gathering testimonies as they battle the government in BC and Canada.
Wow I am so sorry you have been going through This! I wish I knew someone who could help. I do know psychologists - would you be happy to discuss over the internet as I'm assuming that you do not live in New Zealand, which is where I am from?
infamousT www.Havening.Org Counselors whose guidance is based in neuro-science. Perhaps they can help you find peace
@@BushaBandulu thank you.
infamousT
infamousT Thank you for sharing your experience. I hope you have been able to find some assistance and someone to talk to. I’m not an expert in the area of gender dysphoria but would be happy to talk. I wanted to private message you but am not sure how to do that? Any ideas how?
A woman on the right side of history.
3099 girls (aged between 10 to 16) were referred to the Tavistock's GIDS (Gender Identity Development Services)clinic between January 2017 and December 2018. 979 boys (in the same age group) were referred in the same two year period. in 2006 only 49 youngsters were referred to the GIDS clinic in that year.
Well done! Keep up your great work and dialogue.😊
I'm so glad that you're standing up against this issue !! Thank you for being the voice of reason. x
Great♥️ this is necessary
Society is confusing children and I can’t imagine how difficut it must be to be a child in the UK right now......This no doubt contributes to the rise in child mental health right now. Those stupid adverts by celebreties to ‘speak with your children’ was not helpful since the other adults in schools speaking with them are excluding parents from the discussion and ignoring any views which are shared......
Outstanding!
Bravo Professor Moore!
Thank you!
This is probably the best primer for people who do not understand the controversy about gender identity ideology. You know the ones - the ‘just be kind’ crew.
Great speech. Thanks.
Great moral courage! Thank you!
If Michele Moore is correct I am seriously scared for many, many children.
I wonder about the next 20 years when kids who have transitioned on a teenage whim realize what has been allowed to be done to them. These activists are scary people.
@@fudgefase done to them?
People transition by their own choice.
No child is in transition.
Hoemones are restricted til 16.
Surgery til 18.
Freedom of expression of children is all that is happening.
fudgefase
Many women are in that very situation & are being attacked for speaking out about their experience..it’s known as detransition. A lot of vitriol from trans activists using the media to discredit them. situation it’s odd & sinister actually
@@SnuggLeona Many get on puberty blockers as early as 11 and hormones as early as 12.
@@naryainc Blockers, yes. hormones at 12? no.
This woman is brilliant. Is she on Twitter?
You can hear the emotion in her voice.
I wish I was clever enough to help. I'm trying but think I mess it up more than help. X
Yes she's on Twitter @michelemooreEd she's under attack right now. See also co-editor of forthcoming book @H Brunskell Evans
So...who exactly is behind this self-identification of gender for children initiative?
Interesting question. Someone somewhere is getting something out of this.
Pharmaceutical companies, new stream of income for lifetime hormone blockers
Trans activists, who don't necessarily represent actual transsexuals, and the activists are being funded largely by Big pharma. Follow the money! And they don't care about our kids!
www.cmrlink.org/issues/full/whats-behind-the-transgender-movement-and-where-is-it-going
Great question, and the nonsense, tinfoil hat answers here are telling.
here in new zealand, during covid, without any public consultation, advertisement or debate, the law was changed allowing people to alter their gender on passports, birth certificates at will. this just happened. and there is zero interest and zero discussion by press etc. despite the ramifications being... unknowable... enormous. it's horrifying.
It's worth wondering why, if all this is clearly contrary to the opinions of the majority, these policies and practices have so quickly and so completely been taken up by administration in schools, universities, and workplaces. It is because school boards, university departments, and politicians have abrogated responsibility for decisions, and have delegated decision-making to activists and special interest groups. Instead of shaping policy with the benefits of all in mind, policy is determined on the basis of what is best for the special interest group. So we end up with policies that are not in the interests of the common good.
Thankyou!
Bravo! Clara y valiente!
"or heaven forbid change their minds. As 80% of them do."
I wasn't aware of that particular statistic, and immediately thought bullsh*t but i verified it.
10 studies, the most recent done in 2013, have concluded that 80 out of 100 trans identifying trans children accept their biological gender when reaching adulthood. That is not the discourse that is being had, and speaks to the volatility of young developing minds, as well as the lack of care for being well informed discussion about these topics. I am flabbergasted.
I'm as lib and inclusive as the next person, but if even half of this stuff is true, that's bananas.
100% agree
Fantastic woman.
How much does the trans ideology have to do with post-modern views on science and knowledge? So much of what I read has this transhumanism or posthumanism perspective. I just wonder how this became so mainstream?
Brilliant
Excellent video
I would like to see a reference list for this discussion
4,560 views in 4 days.
follow the money
This is what happens when parents hand over the responsibility of child rearing to the government.
They haven't "handed it over". It's been taken from them.
I have for a LONG time suspected that some of the current boom in numbers identifying as Trans is essential due to a new Subcolture trend, like with Goths, Emos, Hippies, Mods n Rockers etc. It has ALL of the characteristics!
What's with the talking over? This is really hard to understand.
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It sounds like you are making big jumps.
How many trans adults and children have you consulted?
I'm a CIS male and I'm genuinely just interested in this "counter argument" to trans rights. Firstly, Moore starts by saying she's done great research and wrote a book on this topic, then later cites such reliable sources as, "a friend at a school nearby" .. .I'm sorry, but if you've wrote a book and have reliable evidence to back up your claims: USE IT!! Cite it! Impress us with your facts and figures. So then she claims: 80% of transgender people "Change their mind"? Again... Evidence of this? ... "People on Tumblr tell children they must move ahead with their gender identity or they'll face feelings of suicide.... Young people don't have a choice once they self-identify. Surgery scars can become infected...." In her story about the parents whose child was moved to foster care: Is the point here, not that the parents wouldn't accept their child's identity and thus the child could not live safely in that home? If parents don't want to accept a child's gender identity, that's one thing but in order to keep your child, surely you have to try and work through that, using acceptance and love. Or maybe they just didn't love their child enough? Many gay people have experienced rejection by their families from their homes, it's not a new story. Who's to blame in those situations? The gay people? YEP... Moore is scaremongering. She's a person who distrusts trans people. I was willing to consider the idea that children self-identify as another gender, because of social influence and that if we take this away then there would be no trans children, but we don't live in a hypothetical vacuum, we live in a world where trans people exist. A world where trans hate exists too. What is better for children? To feel hated and excluded, or accepted and loved? Moore says that children aren't given time to work through and consider their gender identity, and are coerced into taking medication. She's trying to paint trans people as enemies of children and dangerous to children, ultimately, but she lacks any real argument outside of being reactionary and playing on people's fears, there's no substance to her argument: Who are these scary people coercing children into taking medicine and going for surgery? Can anyone point me towards a video (or two) where someone makes an actual FACT based argument against trans rights, rather than this nonsense?
Here you go. Tavistock data has it at 90% desistance for children who don't go on puberty blockers, but other studies have it as not quite that high which is probably why Dr. Moore says 80%: wpath2016.conferencespot.org/62620-wpathv2-1.3138789/t001-1.3140111/f009a-1.3140266/0706-000523-1.3140268
And the appendix in James Cantor's article here lists all peer-reviewed research as of 2018 on desistance with its outcomes. His data does not include Tavistock's because while that was presented at WPATH 2016, it had not been published. Hope this helps you: www.jamescantor.org/uploads/6/2/9/3/62939641/cantor_fact-check_of_aap.pdf
Research is discussed in many of the interviews in this series, but also many first-hand accounts from desisters and therapists on the subject: m.ruclips.net/p/PLRdayXEOwuMH3f0pmZqVQUU62rgJIzvt9
@@lizs6425 Have you actually understood what is being said in these links that you have provided? They don't answer all the questions being made by the original poster.
1) The sample size is small at 44 children.
2) 'approximately 2% to 27% of younger children with Gender Dysphoria were likely to persist with their cross-gender identification following puberty' - I thought this was a study, there shouldn't be such a wide variable between 2% to 27%. A proper study would be able to tell you exactly how many of the 44 children in the sample size persisted after puberty. This devalues everything that follows in the study.
3) What variables have been considered as to why a child with gender dysphoria would decide not to follow through after reaching the age of 18? Have they been pressured by parents? Have they been bullied at school? Has any qualitative study been performed to find out why these children decided not to pursue transition? Has any longevity study been conducted to see if these children decided to transition later in life or if they had any gender identity problems later in life? What are the attempted suicide statistics of these children? As someone who has suffered gender dysphoria all my life, and as someone who has spoken to over 400 people with gender dysphoria, some who have transition, some who have not. I can tell you that dysphoria does not go away. There are medical studies with sample sizes in the hundreds covering almost 1,000 people in 4 different countries and 5 different studies demonstrating that true gender dysphoria does not go away. It is hardwired into us. Think of it like the sea, it is always there lapping at the shore and now and again the tide comes in and the dysphoria worsens, and then the tide goes out and the dysphoria falls into the background until the next tide but it is ALWAYS there in the background. Eventually you get hit by a tsunami.
4) '50% of the cases were persisting in their wish to live in their non-assigned gender post-pubertally (at age 16) and were actively expressing the wish to progress with physical treatments.' OK so now we have a real figure based on the sample size. 50% is a lot less than the 80% quoted or the higher figure that you are suggesting. Again, no follow up study as to why those who chose not to progress dropped out of the program.
5) 'no patient within the sample desisted after having started on the hypothalamic blocker. 90.3% of young people who did not commence the blocker desisted.' - All this demonstrates is that all those who were confident enough in their identity to take blockers progressed and only 10% of those who were not confident to start blockers continued with the program. Again no follow up study on those who desisted. It doesn't really prove anything. Certainly not what you think it says.
@@lizs6425 'The only specific claim was that studies (whether early or late) had limited follow-up periods' - That is literally the only thing you can conclude from that paper. Again, is there any follow up of people in their 40s, in their 50s, even in their 60s. What other variables have been considered? Have they looked at the age of these studies and the social context in which they occur? I spent all my life hiding that I had gender dysphoria, I spent all my life trying to be manly, and I vigorously defended my secret against any suggestion that I might be a 'sissy' (my father's term). I defended my secret against prying consultants, doctors, family, friends, strangers... I would've fought someone before revealing my secret. So how accurate can these studies truly be? They need a lot more work and the social context in which they occur is vital. I would've got a beating if I had told a doctor as a child that I was a girl. My father would've punched the hell out of me afterwards. You think I would've told the doctor the truth about how I felt? No chance.
Here is a simple question... at what age did you know if you were a girl or a boy? Did you have to wait until you were 18 before knowing?
The simple truth is that almost all children know if they are a boy or girl before they start school. Just like most transchildren know that there is something wrong with their identity before they start school. I knew there was something wrong when I was 2 years old in playgroup.
The fact that you don't suffer from gender dysphoria means you have absolutely no idea what it feels like.
Let me fill you in a bit because this video is spouting rubbish and how Michelle Moore can be considered a professor of Inclusive Education and Disability Studies is beyond me.
1) no children under the age of 18 are prescribed hormones other than blockers. Some might seek them on the black market but nobody is given them before the age of 18. They are given puberty blockers that merely delays puberty until the age of 18 when they can then make a decision. At any time while taking the blockers, they can change their mind and come off them, thus going through puberty as normal. To say that they are prescribed gender changing hormones is a lie.
2) I have no idea if I told my parents that I was a girl when I was 2 years old or not. What I do know is that I was repeatedly told that I was a boy and not a sissy. That only sissies read fiction books, that only sissies play with dolls, that only sissies play dress up or wear make up. I was encouraged to get into fights to 'toughen me up'. My father used to instigate fights with my friends and push me into them. I was told that only sissies cry. I was told by my grandmother than she only loves boys and hates girls (much to the upset of my sister). When a babysitter played dress up with me, she was never hired again and my father went nuts about it. If I did anything feminine I got my backside tanned. I was made to go hunting with my father (my sister was never allowed to come), I was made to help with the killing of the animals on the farm (my sister was never allowed to come), I was encouraged to do masculine things. At no point in my childhood was I nurtured to be transgender.
3) because of my upbringing I tried my best to suppress it. I tried my best to be masculine. Later in life I took up weightlifting, martial arts, grew a beard... I did everything that I could to be a man and it made me more and more and more depressed. I never once stopped wishing to be female.
4) I tried to cut off my genitals several times between the ages of 13 and 17 but could never force myself to do it. I would stand for hours with my genitals on the chopping board with a large knife trying to force the knife down but each time the first nick in the skin stopped me. I tried to take my own life when I was 18 years old because I could not make the dysphoria stop. I hoped that I would be reborn female... either in reincarnation or in heaven. I looked for answers in religion. I prayed every evening before bed, every morning and every spare moment of the day to wake up with the correct body. And when that didn't work, I sought to make a pact with the devil for the same. When that didn't work, I looked at other religions. I went through them all before concluding that it was just a bunch of fairytales.
5) I would do anything to make my dysphoria go away. I did not choose to be transgender, I was born this way. Nobody chooses to be transgender. Just look at the lack of acceptance in the comments. Just look at the exclusionary and dismissive speech you have posted in this video. We are second class citizens hated by society because of videos like this one.
6) I knew I wasn't supposed to be a boy from a very early age and my childhood was pure hell because of it. I was constantly bullied at school not only by the children but by the teachers too. I spent the bulk of my childhood isolated. I had friends now and again but the bullies would target them for being my friend and those friendships rarely stayed for long. Some people tried to be my friend in secret outside of school but at school the same 'friends' joined my tormentors. This was all while trying to hide my true self, trying my best to be one of the boys. If I came out as transgender then I would've been crucified. There was a transwoman in my village who was called names, had stones thrown at her, had her windows smashed all by the children at my school. I was attacked because I refused to join in. My life was miserable. When I became older and left school, I found myself drinking heavily and doing dangerous things because I just wanted to die. Since then, I've found a group that has helped me, I am finally starting to come out and be myself because of the peer support. Without it I would continue to hide and suffer. I have also found that there are members of the group who went to the same school as me at the same time as me. This idea that it is peer pressure to come out as trans is nonsense. The reason they tend to come out in clusters is because it takes a lot of courage to come out at all because of all the hate and misinformation spread about us (like this video). Coming out on your own in such a hostile environment is near on impossible for most adults let alone children.
7) Anti-racism 'ideology', Christianity 'ideology', British values 'ideology'... have all had more access to British schools than transgender awareness teaching.
8) Nobody thinks that a girl who likes to play football is transgender. Nobody forces a child to identify as transgender. That is false argument that cannot be supported with facts. 'I think...' without supported evidence is nothing more than opinion. You complain about teachers pushing children to identify as transgender while claiming that they are taking away the choice of self-identification, but isn't this entire speech about denying transgender people the right to self-identify? Isn't it you who are trying to take away that freedom? Can you provide any real evidence of teachers forcing children to be transgender? Or are you just going to cling to the excuses made by parents who refuse to accept their child is transgender? Trying to beat the trans out of a child doesn't work... I and many people I know can vouch for that.
9) There is a LOT of evidence demonstrating that transgender people who suffer from gender dysphoria and undergo surgery are happier after the surgery. The number of cases where this is not true are minimal in comparison and usually because there was another underlying cause for that person's decision, complications in the surgery, and/or social abuse and lack of acceptance by wider society (particularly dating). See: Ainsworth and Speigel (2010), Bailey, Ellis & McNeil (2014), Bouman et al (2016), Boza and Nicholson (2014), Heylens et al. (2014).... and on and on.
10) Not all transgender people suffer from gender dysphoria but for those that do, it is very much a biological physical cause that has now been proven with a sample size of about 1,000 transgender people both male and female, in 4 different countries and 5 different medical labs, demonstrating that dysphoria is caused by small differences in the brain that more closely mirror the gender that a person identifies with. This is now scientifically proven until someone can produce a study of similar sample size and confirmed in multiple medical labs that disproves it. This isn't opinion anymore. People with dysphoria are born transgender. It isn't a choice, it is physical differences in their brain. SO their exclusion because they have been born differently is similar to people who are born with more visible disabilities. The fact that they want to undergo surgery to make them feel better about themselves is no different either. If you have a surgical cure that can help someone who was born incapable of walking, walk then I bet they would want the surgery. If you could make a blind child see again through surgery, then they will want the surgery. It is absolutely nonsense to suggest otherwise.
11) AGAIN... nobody is giving children hormones. There are no 'girls' taking puberty blockers who have full masculine beards.
Finally, as for being silenced... There are people talking out against trans people all the time in the press... this video isn't exactly being silenced is it? A person with similar beliefs to the speaker was recently invited to a debate at the Scottish Parliament, there was NO trans representative to provide a counter argument to what was being said. At this talk in the video were there any transgender speakers to dispute what Moore was saying? So who is it that is being silenced here? It is certainly not Moore, she has a book published and she is giving a talk in Newcastle tonight. Nobody is silencing her... but there are no transgender representatives providing a counter argument... this is a 'debate' of one because ultimately what is being 'debated' here is the refusal to acknowledge that transgender children exist. There is no debate because you deny our existence. It is transgender people who are being silenced. We are being told that our opinion does not count because we are delusional. You refuse to believe that we suffer from gender dysphoria. Despite the overwhelming scientific evidence, you refuse to believe that this is anything other than choice. You think that transmen are merely delusional butch lesbians... and you call that inclusive?
You were emotionally abused by your father to not be the boy you actually were. You were fed gender stereotyping rhetoric and made to believe you were wrong. This is abuse and changes the way you feel about yourself. It's no surprise that being treated this way has compounded your confusion.
I'm very sorry to see how you were treated, abused by your father. This is a very common factor in the childhood stories of transwomen. Gender was used as a tool to abuse you and make you feel there was something wrong with you. Parts of you were not accepted or even allowed & you were made to feel they were only permissible in women. Gender is a harmful concept, it harmed your father & he used it to harm you in turn.
So trans young people should be forced to live in the gender they were assigned at birth!
Gender is not assigned. Sex is a biological reality (facts) determined by the body parts you possess. Gender is a social construct based on stereotypes that limit the ability of people to express themselves in a binary way. Transgenderism reinforces these stereotypes.
Authentic Gay Blog No one can change sex, but we can have a world in which they can have whatever personality and lifestyle they want. The TRA agenda requires that a boy who likes pink or dolls be pushed into drugs and surgery and a girl who likes climbing trees be given a binder.
Why not let the the children do ALL those things. Why must they choose?
@@LisaMichele People who are transgender are much more open to non-binary people, many identify as non-binary. After my suicide attempt I learned to create a non-binary world and I refused to see gender, only people. I survived like that for over 20 years and the biggest challenge to my bubble was feminism. It is your agenda that is reinforcing gender and gender stereotypes by insisting on a gender binary that cannot be challenged. My non-binary world was shattered when I was forced to be a gender that I did not identify with... and that is exactly what you are doing.
@@-Shadesofmeaning Nobody is doing that. You are just scaremongering. By reinforcing the gender binary it is you that are reinforcing gender stereotypes.
@@Alice-rm7my not even remotely
This is disrespectful, insensitive, and ignorant.
Well done Michele. My one regret about retiring from teaching is that I have no platform or influence in schools anymore. Keep banging the drum! Facts will prevail in the end.
here in new zealand, during covid, without any public consultation, advertisement or debate, the law was changed allowing people to alter their gender on passports, birth certificates at will. this just happened. and there is zero interest and zero discussion by press etc. despite the ramifications being... unknowable... enormous. it's horrifying.