HandleGod Brice Speaking in relative terms. We’re comparing the best Olympians, and not just NBA players. Prime Melo was a good, but not GREAT 3 point shooter, like Mullin, Redd, Bird, etc
So Kobe said his squad would beat the Dream Team. A reporter told this to Larry Bird and asked what he though. Larry response “it’s possible , we are a lot older and haven’t played in a while”
The amount of defensive liabilities on the dream team makes me think they would get destroyed. Let’s face it evolution is undeniable. The redeem team would destroy them
@@javigar133 yes the spain team was really good, but comparing them to the dream team they would be like the worst team in the wnba while drem team be like the best team in nba
@@midorimashintaro2613 I mean sure they’d make 3’s but where’s the fun in that? The league before was far more entertaining when everyone wasn’t shooting 3’s, I still enjoy watching curry play, but that was cuz he was specifically a shooter, and now everyone be shooting 3’s which just makes the league more boring now
Michael Jordan said it best when Kobe and LeBron said that the 2012 team will beat the 1992 team: Remember now, they learned from us. We didn't learn from them.
Careful kobe might not talk to one for a couple weeks and then drop 81 honestly I think Bron would make the difference magic is great but not Bron great
Scottie Pippen would be starting and guarding Lebron, not Bird. but lets not poo poo 1992 Larry Bird, he still could put the hurt on when needed, and avg over 20 ppg that year
@@LeviDavidSchaffer not quite. he retired about 10 days after they won the gold medal. so he played the 1992 season in the NBA, then played for the dream team that summer. then retired from the NBA after the gold metal game
That's what I was going to say Scottie would guard LeBron and smother him to death and then I'd switch up with putting Karl Malone on him at certain times. The matchup to see would of course always be Michael vs Kobe
He needed to explain to younger viewers why Larry Legend wouldn't just torch their entire team. If Larry and Magic were also in their prime, they are just the better versions of the redeem team.
I would have Stockton, Jordan, pippen, Malone and Robinson as starters for the dream team. All 5 in their prime and with Jordan and pippen as bulls teammates and Stockton and Malone as jazz teammates 2 of the greatest duos of all time. Stockton pretty much would feed the ball to Jordan and Malone 2 of the greatest scorers and well talking about defense that’s five of the greatest defensive players you’ll see with Robinson blocking balls and 3 of the all time steal leaders with Mj and Stockton and pippen and Malone as 2 great lockdown defense. I got this starting line up in a sweep. Their is no way they are loosing a game agains the redeem team.
Great analysis, I too believe the 92 Dream Team would win in 6 games. The bigs on the DT would be too much to handle. Now if both teams were in their prime, I’d say DT in 5. Prime Larry would be a game changer.
I don’t care about their prime, it’s 4 regardless. Pippen is absolutely shutting down young Lebron. Magic is not letting CP do anything. MJ and Kobe would go hard. Robinson vs Howard? The whole time, no one’s stopping Barkley. When Stock and Malone comes in, it’s a wrap, game over. The problem is each player is a copy of a better more experienced player. You got lil MJ, Lil Stockton, You got Baby James and Pippen ain’t having that. Who is out shooting Bird? Dwight is truly going to get bodied by Robinson, Malone, and Ewing is going to intimidate all except Kobe. Carmelo is my guy, but Pippen ain’t having that either. Did I mention Magic yet? What are we doing? The IQ test reveals the Redeem team getting blown out because they were dominate physically which meant exhaustion. The DT was so effortless, they passed the ball like everyone wanted to get the most assists and watch the other show out. RT would have jumped higher moved faster, but not faster than the ball movement of Bird, Magic, Stock, MJ. Baby Shaq could jump out the gym, but he wasn’t going to keep out jumping Robinson and Ewing. And again, who was going to stop the round mound? He was 6’7 to be generous and no one on his own team could slow him down. Not Ewing, Robinson, Malone, maybe Pippen his teammate. As soon as Kobe or Lebron come off their man, their whole team gets abused like prostitutes. Howard will easily find himself banging and trying to front too many bigs in that, he will be out of position all game. If you watched, you saw a bunch of old men barely breathing hard and the RT tired sweaty and aggressive. The father and and son bull analogy comes to mind. Son speaks-“Dad, let run down their and catch a cow to fuck!” Dad replies- “ son let’s walk down and fuck them all.” Save your energy and don’t scare them, they’ll bend over instead of running away. LoL. I kinda switched the words a bit
The dream team would win fairly easily imo. If for no other reason than the big guys. Everything else is matched up pretty evenly but once you get to the PFs and Cs these teams aren't even in the same world.
Barkley had more points and shot well from 3 I remember trying to watch every game but it was hard to watch them for some reason back then I cant remember why but anyway Barkley played great but I wouldnt say outplayed Jordan. Jordan was doing alot more of the little things like Jordan always did. Barkley did well scoring and rebounding. I'm not taking away from Barkley I'm just helping those who didn't get to see know a little better what happened. I'm sure theres games on youtube tho if we search.
@@mcmorelane3818 youre not seriously picking them to win against Stockton and Malone combo with Ewing at center AND Bird and Drexler rounding out the five.
I don't think the redeem team is a better roster but I think a team today with Curry, Harden, Lebron, Durant and Davis. With Lillard, Klay, Kawhi, Tatum, George, Paul and Zion off the bench would be more interesting. Realized that there's like no even respectable American centers today to have in this conversation so this team would have to be running and shooting alot of 3s. A group of Americans will never be as good as the Dream though, maybe if able to add guys internatiomal players like Giannis, Jokic, Doncic, Embiid and Gobert would make it alot more interesting.
@Jesus Saldana They have true centers waiting in the paint though physical skilled and athletic bigs tougher than prime Dwight Howard that gave LB problems
Berkley an Malone would knock the hell out of LeBron an he don't have the heart to take a beating night after night so he would be not driven the ball down the lane he be more of out side player only 2 players would be serious threat would be Bryant an Wade night in an night our
Everyone goes on about the redeem team. But doesn't anyone remember the 96 Dream Team? That consisted of half of the 92 Dream Team, plus the current all star players at the time. They were pretty badass! I would pick the 96 Dream Team over the Redeem Team.
What made the Dream team work was their ability to play together. All other dream teams were personalities and not team work. The 1992 Dream team will always be the best there ever was
Consider: Malone, Barkley, Robinson and Ewing had NO equals on the redeem team - they would feast and the game plan could easily be changed for them to feast. They would feast offensively and defensively - they were tougher. Barkley feasted during the Olympics. Defensively, Stockton, Pipen and Jordan would feast and channel them right into Robinson and Ewing who were great shot-blockers - Robinson being one of the best ever. Malone was more muscular and physical than ANY on the redeem team. He was a beast. The drawback for the Dream Team was really Bird being injured and Magic coming back from retirement. Otherwise it wouldn't be much of a competition because Bird was a bad, bad man and incredible team leader and so was Magic! The Redeem Team would have to resort to long distance shooting with a hand in their faces over great defenders.
Theyd destrrrroy. None of the redeemers are used to taking their vaunted 3 pointers while being pressured by the defence. Poor lambs wouldnt know what hit em
I don’t get how you would contradict yourself with saying Bird was one of the top 3 players on the Dream Team but would be a handicap for them. As it was, he wasn’t heavily played, Pippen would be the player to gauge against. And the redeem team had Jason Kidd, he’s taken more teams to the finals than Chris and Deron combined. They had to call him back after the U.S. lost without him in later years. Magic and Stockton would still handle him, but he’s ahead of the others.
Yup Kidd and Barkley should have been talked about a lot more for their respective teams. I remember quite a few dream team games where I thought Barkley was the best player on the floor.
You’d also have to give the 92’ team the physical trainers and supplements of 2008. This adds life and years to the aging Dream Team players. - Imagine Bird and Magic with today’s rehab PT.
Why do people obsessed with the past always give the old players the current player's abilities, nutrition and so on but never give the new players the old school mentality when they try to compare the eras? These players are better, not necessarily greater but they are far more skilled, much faster and far more athletic. I love the Dream team but they're too slow and unathletic to keep up with the redeem team
@@BooHefner - Wait…who’s “obsessed” with anything. - I’m a firefighter and I understand how much the supplements and modern training equipment in every fire station affects the fitness of todays workforce. It’s just easier to stay in shape longer today than it was 40 years ago.
Definitely a sweep with huge margins. How can someone bet on the redeem team if they had hard time with Spain????????? Comon, it doesnt take a high school grad to understand that. Not unless you have a logic like those with a flat earther
@@drow27 international basketball has developed since 1992. There are a lot of talents outside the US. I still believe the dream team would win just coz they have Jordan.
I would love to see the match up of MJ vs Kobe and Pippen vs Lebron, but the slaughter of Barkley on Bosh/Boozer would be all that would be talked about
@Greg A no defensive player can completely shut down a great like LeBron. That's why, even when Kawhi won Finals MVP, LeBron still scored 28 ppg (though the defense was ofc more effective than that stay shows). Scottie would give him trouble but I wouldn't doubt LeBron's genius and talent to figure something out since he's much more than a scorer. Imagine LeBron playmaking to Kobe and Durant, and the lobs to Howard.
Best players on the Dream Team were: Jordan, Pippen and Barkley. Also the Dream Team played man-to-man more and pressure defense this is something that the Redeem team isn't as used to. Also Karl Malone is the second or third hardest worker in NBA that I have ever witnessed.
Donnie Pate You’re a horrible person I don’t care if you don’t think Kobe was a good basketball player but he’s a human being, what you are saying is disrespectful to his memory.The man died with his daughter that day, think about what you say.
I remember those olympic games, I was a teenager. I clearly remember there was a US player who was sweeping the game and leading the US team in many aspects. I didn't know anything about this player because most of us in Spain only knew Magic, Bird, Jordan, Ewing... That player was Charles Barkley.
I mean the redeem team had a lot of young talent with less experience. Kobe and Jordan were the same age (29) on their respective teams, so it would be cool to see that matchup if nothing else
The more and more 90s basketball i watch, the more i realized how underrated some of these players were, particularly Stockton! Although his career was shorter than most, it was a powerhouse.
@@Chuck999Norris Against the true era of big men, an era Dwight never played in? Dwight would be a 4 in the 90s. Robinson and Ewing would eat him alive. They were much larger men and just as strong and their athleticism was nothing to be sniffed at and their skill was elite level and they both could shoot and hit free-throws.
@@raurman4946 You're funny. Many skinny guys dominated the 90s like Penny Hardaway. These eras are fast, LeBron will bulldoze them like a runaway train
First, we will never know. Second the game has evolved players have evolved. U rarely fucking see 6'8 6'9 players move as fast and jump as high as players now. Oh what about the physicality? If that redeem team will face the dream team on rules they are accustomed to of course they have the advantage.
125-100, Dream Team over Redeem Team, on average. The bench players would dominate and be the main cause for the large differential. Plus....Jordan in his prime? He would want to embarrass his opponents. The spread would likely be -12 in favor of the Dream Team, but I honestly believe they cover that most nights. Dream Team in 5!
No way the Dream team is allowing 100 points. The defensive players, controlling the boards, the 2 best tempo controlling PG's. They don't give up a hundred.
Yes! People are forgetting how DOMINANT Charles was in 1992. Forget that Bird was a shell of himself; he didn't have to be great with Charles dominating scoring and rebounding.
Scalping Forever I would take Barkley Over any nowadays player in a fraction of a hearbeat. Also I would take him Over any redeem players (sorry Kobe, much respect for you and your legacy). Barkley nowadays would dominate with his speed, skill, strength and b-ball wisdom. 3point were a last resort back then, players were capable of shooting, but the coach will bench them is they abuse that play. Barkley could shoot, pass and defend very well no doubt. today he would be in GOAT talks. But he was playing in an era were they had strong and skill players and they played rough, no like ballerina
Giorgio 510 I would agree, but you do also have to realize, statistics, and computer simulated matchups wouldn’t account for 1 thing. That thing being WILLPOWER. It would be very close between the two teams to determine which is better since willpower has historically made trash players like Jeremy Lin turn into freak athletes.
@@501jaylee so what does statistics and computer generated matchups have to do with anything??? What's the reason for bringing any of that up? All that shit seems pretty fucking stupid to me for you to bring any of it up. The original dream team were made of not only stars, but stars with very high IQs that KNOWS how to play team ball with each other without any coaching. They're all dominant players that are more rugged except for Kobe bcuz he played in part of that era. But that WILLPOWER you're speaking of ain't gonna help cuz the original dream team plays with a chip on their shoulders that may also be recognized as WILLPOWER
They didn't exactly play inspired ball in the Olympics, but they're the most underrated team in USA basketball history. This was still the era of big men, and that team had Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley, and Karl Malone.
'92 Dream Team is the greatest basketball team of ALL Time and no one would ever stand a chance. Too much talent too much chemistry too much intensity.
I think you *can* do it primarily because the ‘92 team only had 11/12 HOF players so *if* you took the top 12 NBA players right now or in the early 2000s you can make a very solid case, but the chemistry HAS to be there
I am the biggest Bird fan you'll ever talk to and I will ALWAYS say that 1984-86 Bird was the best player I've ever seen; but to say he was a top 3 player in 1992 is not true... Bird did not even make an all-NBA team in 92 and didn't play in the all-star game due to injury. Malone, Robinson, Barkley, Ewing, Drexler, Pippen, Mullin, and Stockton were all more productive in 1992. I'd take the massive front court advantage of the Dream team as they could still match-up with redeem on the wings.
Exactly he wouldn’t be in the convo or playing because he was sidelined due to back injuries. Isiah Thomas should have been in there instead of Larry but politics kept him out.
- The video creator said Bird was coming off the bench for his Dream Team. (Bird was a TOP 3 in the 80s but for This fictional matchup, he is coming off the bench).
Dream Team in a sweep. MJ and Pippen would never come off the floor. You have to remember that the only reason the bench players saw as many minutes as they did in the Olympics was due to the lopsided scores. Michael Jordan would take this matchup more personally than any Finals series. That spells doom for everyone else.
@Macus Alexander Liew This is one of the most delusional statements I've ever heard, about any subject. Today's players lack the skill 90's players had due to the soft rules. Simply put, it is much easier to shoot and get to the basket in today's game. the Dream Team was better skilled, had more top 10 players, and played more physically. It's a good thing this match never happened or Lebron's GOAT ambitions, though still not possible, would have been laid to rest.
You forgot one key thing, the top 3 for the Dream Team wouldn’t be Magic Larry and Mike. Like you said, they weren’t in their prime. They would be Barkley, Jordan, Pippen.
Benjamin Kelly yea he lost credibility off the claim lol I couldn’t watch any more In my mind “did this guy just say magic and birds dominated the 90s?” lmao they were done by 92
@Antonio Jackson Yup. And Patrick also let's you setup a half court game and get the other bigs in foul trouble with his slow developing fade away, and he usually got it to fall and then made the free throw.
Kobe at this point in his career was probably either as good as Jordan or as close as anyone will ever get. They would cancel each other out. I think the Bulls players wouldn´t be the deciding factors, but the DT´s depth would.
@@datmadapuka441 kawhi leonard is basically the same level defender as pippen and lebron dropped 28 ppg on him in the finals. scottie wouldnt limit shit AND people seem to forget scottie only averaged like 15 ppg for his career. lebron would shut his ass down completely pretty much making him a 1 dimensional player at best
@@samuelperezgarcia how you gonna say Kobe was better when he only won his 4th championship 5 years after the last? Jordan was always the best player in the league once he reached his prime. From 91 to 98 he was scoring champion, mvp and a lot of other awards. Kobe was great but stop exagerating.
Just saw this today. I agree and think your analysis is spot on. However I’d like to add this. Can you imagine Kobe vs mj prime to prime? Kobe and mj both would elevate to superhuman levels to one up each other and I would love to see that. Kobe and his 81 point game, 62 points in 3 quarters, 9 straight 40 plus point games against mj’s flu game, 60 plus against the Celtics in the playoffs, 30ppg career average, 50% plus fg. Man that would be insane
Barkley, Stockton, Jordan, Pippen, Malone, Ewing and Robinson all in their primes. DT2 had to make every shot because they won't be getting many rebounds 😂
@@somerandomguy3037 I'm not saying Pippen would stop him. But he would impact his numbers, definitely. My point was that Pippen is the better man for the job, compared to Bird.
The Redeem Team’s X-factor is Kobe. Because Wade, Lebron, Dwight and Melo were all part of that team that lost to Greece in the 2006 Fiba World Championships Semi Finals. That being said, Dream Team all the way.
if i hear you right , the two greatest two way players in the history of the N B A , the two greatest power forwards in N B A history , two hall of fame centers , the two greatest point guards in N B A history , and of course the big one , the most competitive player in the history of sports , sorry my friend , NOT EVEN CLOSE !
@@davidsmith-by5nv hi david , my analysis was based primarily on the position each player played , and from various lists and opinion compiled by notable nba experts , players , coaches , sports journalist etc. if as a point guard you are at the top of the nba's all time list of both assists and steals , i.e. stockton , it's hard to argue against you , isiah was a much better all round player but that team was already loaded with legendary all round players .
1 of the most competitives in history :) he may be better player (well he IS but not by much), but i think Lary and Russell where as competitive as Jordan (cant say more couse there are all at the MAX there)
Larry Bird would be coming off the bench and playing very limited minutes in this hypothetical match up. Pippen was the starting small forward if I remember correctly. A '92 Bird was not a top 3 player on the Dream team squad. Good stuff but your match ups have to be fair in this analysis.
he said that in the end of the video. you probably comment this when the video is still going on. He said pippen will be the starting sf while bird will be in the bench although bird is likely will be switching with chris mullin.
What was the point of putting Bird in the "three primary players" analysis? Bird clearly was way past his physical best, though he could still shoot, pass and rebound when his back let him get onto the floor. Magic was still terrific though (looked like a million bucks in the 92 all star game) and I don't think he got enough credit in this video. The only player on the Redeem Team that could guard him is LeBron and that would really throw off their rotation. If you're being fair, the three best players on the Dream Team are probably Jordan, Barkley, and Pippen (Robinson would also be in the running). Barkley was absolutely unstoppable in the international game. He shot 70% from the field and 80% from three point range in the Olympics which are cartoon numbers. Pippen was at the height of his powers in 1992 and doesn't get near the credit he deserves for how awesome a two way force he was. He would give LeBron fits and could also cover Kobe on switches. Kobe Bryant in 2008 was at the peak of his game and would give Michael a very hard time. Anybody who thinks peak Kobe wasn't one of the greatest in basketball history is just blinded by either love for Jordan or hate for Bryant. Yes, I believe peak Jordan is slightly better, but only slightly. I view the matchup of Jordan and Drexler versus Wade and Kobe as the most intriguing and believe it to be the most even. Four of the top five two guards in the history of the game, all in their primes. Slight edge to the Dream Team here. Center is Dream Team all the way. Although Dwight was playing very well at that stage of his career, he was the best of a weak era of centers and really is undersized for a classic center. He relied mainly on his athleticism and defensive timing. But he's not a better athlete than either of the players he'd be facing and is giving away size as well. He had a tough time guarding Shaq when O'Neal was at the end of his career and a shadow of his former self. He never could carry a team offensively. David Robinson and Ewing were both in their primes and the combination of the two of them would be too much for Dwight, who would probably end up in foul trouble. The advantage clearly goes to Dream Team. Point guard goes to Dream Team also in my opinion. Jason Kidd was 35 years old at the time and Magic was a better player at that point in his career despite missing the 92 season. Magic as mentioned above would be a matchup nightmare. Stockton, though, is possibly the best point in history not named Magic or Oscar. He's better than Paul by a solid margin. He's also considerably better than Deron Williams. Power forward is all Dream Team. Barkley and Malone are hands down better than anybody the Redeemers have. Small forward is the only area where the Redeem Team has a case, but Mullin and Pippen for me give you nearly as much as Carmelo and LeBron. Pippen would hound James all over the court and Mullin would feast on Anthony's lackluster defense. I still think the advantage slightly goes to the Redeem team because James would be a force and Anthony would still get buckets, but that's the only roster spot where they're arguably better. Dream Team could lose a single game, but in a best of seven probably wins 4-1 or 4-2.
It wasn't that Bird didn't need to play minutes, it's that he couldn't at that point. His back was killing him and he was basically finished as a player. He wasn't the guy in the history video anymore. He couldn't move out there. He retired after the Olympics because he knew he couldn't do it anymore. Go back and watch some games from the 91-92 Celtics season. When he could even play (only 45 games that year), Bird had trouble guarding even mid-tier NBA talent, let alone LeBron and Carmelo of the Redeem Team. He could still shoot and get rebounds, but on the other end he was a complete liability. It's too bad, because Bird at his peak was a terrific defender. His body just broke down.
I honestly am biased. I love the dream team. They are the originals. The team work and the goals seemed so much brighter than the redeem team. Statistically it would be close I'm sure, but in my heart and I believe in most fans hearts it's not even close the dream team takes it
Dream team would surely win this matchup but you just cant say it would not be close, redeem team would probably lack of muscle on the court, when it comes to talent both are the same, The 2012 Olympic team has the better chance in beating the dream tho
The Dream & Redeem team have nothing on "The Regime team" Starting 5= Luke Walton, Lavar Ball, Kwame Brown, Jeremy Linn, and Denzel Washington because he beat Ray Allen in the movie "He Got Game"
Sir Osis true but you would think that if you wanted to represent the US you can if your good enough. You know who they also could’ve added is Shaq, yes he was young at the time but still dominant on the Magic
Top 10 Sports I see your point. Hakeem was my favorite center when I was growing up and some say he was closer to 6’ 10 than 7’ so that makes him even more impressive but I do understand the Olympic committees decision to want people to be an actual citizen of the country they represent. Laettner got on only because he was NCAA player of the year. My friends and I were all bummed that it wasn’t Shaq but I think the thought process was that the 12th man (the one college add on) wouldn’t get much playing time anyway so it really didn’t matter who they added.
Stopped watching when you doubled down on putting Bird in the best three on the Dream Team. Coach Daly himself said Barkley (you know the NBA MVP that season) was the best player on that team other than Jordan. Also, any comparison giving the ‘08 team a chance is ignoring the Jordan factor. To start, Jordan’s college Olympic team wiped the NBA all-stars in ‘84. Jordan also never lost a finals series, and was a worthy final’s MVP 6 times. If you think prime Jordan, together with his partner Pippen, backed up by prime Barkley, and a rotation through that Dream bench is letting ANY team beat them, you’re crazy.
Thank you! Well put. I got mad respect for the players on that '08 team, especially Kobe and D-Wade, but I doubt that they would be able to cope with the defensive intensity of the Dream Team. And where would their scoring opportunities come from? That '08 would get blown into another dimension on the boards! I watched every game of that tournament in '92 (along with the PanAm tournament in Portland) and have to agree with you about Charles... he was a force of nature that year and should have been mentioned when discussing the top players. Funny you should mention coach Daly, he didn't have to do too much after he got the '92 team playing as a cohesive unit, but this is the guy that came up with nightmare scenarios for Jordan and the bulls in the late '80s. Pretty sure he would also be pivotal in creating a hellish experience for the '08 team when rotating players and dealing with matchups.
Believe it or not Barkley was not in his prime in 1992. He says in many interviews he was a better player in Philadelphia. He was MVP for the Suns, but he was much more of a force with the Sixers.
You didn't consider the biggest factor. That insane competitive nature of MJ. He would want to crush any comparisons between himself and Kobe or Lebron, like he did with Drexler. I'll call it a gentleman's sweep for the Dream Team. Barkley was also in his prime and would have been unstoppable in the post and on the glass.
While Jordan's better than Kobe there's not a huge gap between the two if they're both in their primes. Jordan would definitely have to bring his A+ game to expose his slight advantage over Kobe in his prime. No one's dominating either of these great players in their primes.
@@greatray6262 It wasn't considered to be much of a gap at all between Jordan & Drexler either, until people started making the comparison and then MJ had the opportunity to show a difference on the court heads up. I believe MJ would do likewise if matched up with Kobe in his prime. Even as an old man on the Wizards Mike competed hard with prime Kobe. I believe the gap is bigger than you put on. And would be made apparent to the world if MJ felt his legacy was in question.
@@lainiwakura4678 I don't care if its MJ or anybody else... it's certain people in the game that you just can't stop... and LeBron and Kobe would terrorize the dream team. Carmelo Anthony was a savage then to... idc who you are... You not stopping that.
@@debo10100 There were plenty of great players in the 90's, and when pushed MJ rose to the occasion over all of them. Maybe you weren't alive to experience it first hand. Those of us who were have no reason to expect otherwise. The one advantage the Redeem Team would have would be negated by the short 3 pt. line in international play. At that range MJ, Drexler, and even Barkley would become viable threats. Let alone Bird, Mullin, and Stockton. I just don't see a scenario with the Redeem Team winning that doesn't include MJ & Barkley on the bench for long periods.
@@debo10100 I will give you that Melo was very well suited to international play. He would be a handful. Also consider though that if he goes off Pippen makes it a point to step to him. He loved those challenges.
This no contest!!🤣🤣Mj,,Barkley,, magic,, pippen,,Malone,, Patrick,,drexler,Robinson,,,,bird,, Stockton,,Mullins,,they would destroy them,,, seriously 😒,,,
Imagine if they would’ve chosen Shaq over Laettner. Remember that was the summer going into Shaq’s rookie year and in that year he avg’d 23pts 14reb and 3.5blks. And he would’ve been the last guy on the bench right after Bird with his bad back. They would’ve undoubtedly been the best sports team in history FOR ALL TIME without anyone even thinking of questioning if they even had the slightest of chances against them. Crazy.
@@andrewortiz6430 Dream Team had at least 3 guys as strong as Lebron if not stronger...and they'd be waiting for him in the paint if Lebron ever got by Pippen. Kobe was great but he never belonged in any comparison to MJ. KD is great but would have misery playing DT in mileau where physicality was allowed. Etc. I'd pay a lot of money for a time machine that could match these teams up.
@@Jzarecta lol, take a look at the 1990 All-Star game.Look at BOTH teams (specially East line-up).Man, I would pay to see that. (and nothing would make me bet my money in the redem team). ruclips.net/video/3qGk40wrjbE/видео.html
One thing you didn't quite touch on is teamwork - The Dream Team had Jordan/Pippen as well as Stockton/Malone. Two of the most storied pairs in NBA history. Stockton and Malone had been playing together for 8 years at that point, while Jordan and Pippen had been together for 5. Compare that to the Redeem Team, who only had Williams and Boozer from the same team, and they had only played together for 2 years. There's a level of trust and knowledge that comes from time together, especially at that level.
u mean Bird , Bird , Birs , Bird .............. Bird --> jordan , Magic will mentalkly destroy the redeam team with Trash Talk , with all due respect, and THERE IS much respect , when it come to trash talk larry Legend RULED !!!! (there a reason he considared the BEST trash talker in BB history :) )
I think in a single game the Dream Team wins by 20+. I say this due to them all being more used to the physicality compared to the Redeem Team players, plus their ability to play together as a team. In a 7 game series, I believe the Dream Team beats the Redeem Team in 5. I think the Redeem Team steals one game based on their mentioned perimeter shooting, but as you stated, the Dream Team had some of if not the best perimeter defenders of all-time, so the Redeem Team isn't going to get away with that for long.
there are no match up here: dream team has two best players in every posistion, from pg to centers, ang 1 is the goat, 10 first ballot hall of famer, the team itself is inducted to hall of fame...
Jonny Arnett, great video work, decent analysis, and the music wasn't overpowering. Although we agree the 1992 team would defeat the 2008 squad, there are a few minor points of discord I would like to share. Of course your quote of the Dream Team's smallest win margin of 32 versus Croatia in the gold medal matchup was accurate, but their average was significantly higher at 43. Not only did the Redeem Team have a much smaller points gap (27), but in the gold medal contest, Spain made them work for three and one half quarters and lost by only 11. Conversely, the 92 team had no such contests en route to gold. The top three comparison at first glance may appear to favor the 08 team, but closer examination would show a clearer picture. MJ was of course MJ, and while Magic and Bird are clearly past their physical peaks, Johnson is still the masterful playmaker and Larry Legend would still light them up from outside in limited minutes obviously. The glaring mismatch referenced between Bird and James would be minimal if the coach allowed it to occur at all. Pippen would shut young James down or leave the task to Malone or Barkley. D. Wade, James and Kobe (a Jordan analog) were still at their peak, but in terms of overall team defense, the 1992 team had an answer for each of them (e.g. Ewing, Robinson, and MJ). Three point efficiency with the shorter FIBA line would favor both teams equally, with no distinct advantage to either group. In a manner of speaking, you alluded to as much when you briefly mentioned Jordan as a viable three point contributor (remember what he did to Portland in the 1992 NBA Finals). Coach Chuck Daly was a master at managing talent, player's egos and devising strategy, and keep in mind that although Coach Mike Krzyzewski was skilled in coaching the international game, keep in mind he was on Daly's 1992 staff. Lastly, let's discuss intangibles. No player on the 2008 team is reputed to possess the indomitable will to win to the degree of Jordan, Bird or Magic. Admittedly, Bryant comes close, and Bird or Magic are physically not up to sustaining serious on court battles, but if you're looking for someone to take a shot in the last few seconds to win, no player did it better than the 1992 team's "Big Three". Mullen, Stockton, Barkley or Pippen wouldn't be bad options in that situation either.
Good points, although I would assert that the level of international competition was lower in '92, and there was also a mental advantage since that was the first time NBA players were in the Olympics.
Dream Team would beat the Redeem Team. Pippen would guard Bron, not Larry. Dwight would have his hands full with Robinson and Ewing and would get outplayed. When Dwight came off of the floor Robinson and Ewing would feast on the less physical Bosh. Speaking of feasting, Mailman and Chuck would feast on Bosh/Boozer too. The Dream Team has better PG's. The Dream Team is far better suited for physical play. Dream Team W for sure, main deciding factor- rebounds, points in the paint. Mailman/Chuck/Admiral/Ewing would be too much. Edit: In a 7 game series I got the Dream Team in 5 or 6
Lebron has always had trouble finishing at the rim when you have true bigs in the paint. Imagine him trying to take it to the basket with Robinson, Ewing.
@@abstractdaddy1384 It's a mixture. Yeah a good big back court that can hang in the middle out muscles Lebron and almost any finisher. That doesn't mean they shut Lebron down it just means he has more trouble. Lebron has gotten to take advantage of much more open lanes during the bulk of his career so he doesn't have to deal it as much anymore. I do remember how he used to struggle muscling through Dwight when Howard was in his pre-back injury phase.
@@jamiekelley4076 Well Howard at his peak was one of the greatest rim protectors ever, so I'll give James a pass on that one. Regardless, I rewatched Thinking Basketball's greatest peaks series and it was stated in the LeBron James episode that he was the greatest finisher ever. That's proof enough for me. (If you haven't seen that series I highly recommend it).
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Who's winning this matchup in a 7 game series??
Jonny Arnett -NBA RUclipsr Redeem in 7
Dream team in 6. They averaged 40 point lead in all games against all teams. Please.
How is prime melo not a good 3pt shooter
HandleGod Brice Speaking in relative terms. We’re comparing the best Olympians, and not just NBA players. Prime Melo was a good, but not GREAT 3 point shooter, like Mullin, Redd, Bird, etc
@@jonnyarnett Tru Tru
So Kobe said his squad would beat the Dream Team. A reporter told this to Larry Bird and asked what he though. Larry response “it’s possible , we are a lot older and haven’t played in a while”
Hahaha good one :) I got the joke
The amount of defensive liabilities on the dream team makes me think they would get destroyed. Let’s face it evolution is undeniable. The redeem team would destroy them
Oh I get it Larry lmao
True
@@Robertedwinhouse38 are you on drugs? Did you watch the video comparison? The Dream Team Bench could beat the Redeem team starters!
lol Imagine having Stockton to Malone as your backup line.
Its oveeeeer!
@@carlragas6992 Let's go hooome.
Stockton is a system player
Crackhead so is Tom Brady
da ra yes he is
The redeem team had trouble with Marc and Pau Gasol. With that being said Ewing, Barkley, and Robinson would had had a field day in the paint.
With the loose international officiating, Barkeley might commit manslaughter.
And they had Karl too.
That Spain team was really good, but so was Croatis in 1992 (Petrovic, duh...) and the Dream team destroyed them.
@@javigar133 yes the spain team was really good, but comparing them to the dream team they would be like the worst team in the wnba while drem team be like the best team in nba
Lol
Jordan, Bird, Magic, Barkley, Ewing, Malone and Robinson on one team is insane
INSANE (upper case) is a better word.
@@naturalblockade3412 FUCKING INSANE (with the curse) is a better word.
And Pippen, Stockton, Drexler
Mullin was a gamer
At their peaks would have been unstoppable. As they were in the dream team, it might have been a lot closer.
This is like The Dream Team Vs In Their Dreams Team.
Oh shut up haha redeem team will kill their ass with 3s
@@midorimashintaro2613 take your meds snowflake gen z 🤣
@@midorimashintaro2613 I mean sure they’d make 3’s but where’s the fun in that? The league before was far more entertaining when everyone wasn’t shooting 3’s, I still enjoy watching curry play, but that was cuz he was specifically a shooter, and now everyone be shooting 3’s which just makes the league more boring now
@@midorimashintaro2613 nah dream team will shut them down they will physicality they be so tired where they cant shoot threes anymore
@@cammac66 haha gen z sensitive snowflake haha fuck your feelings i am so very cool and such an alpha male
Michael Jordan saw this video, as a result it became personal and he dropped 80 on the redeem team.
😂
Exactly
Michael Jordan said it best when Kobe and LeBron said that the 2012 team will beat the 1992 team: Remember now, they learned from us. We didn't learn from them.
Kobe dropped 81😈
Careful kobe might not talk to one for a couple weeks and then drop 81 honestly I think Bron would make the difference magic is great but not Bron great
Scottie Pippen would be starting and guarding Lebron, not Bird. but lets not poo poo 1992 Larry Bird, he still could put the hurt on when needed, and avg over 20 ppg that year
he was retired
@@LeviDavidSchaffer not quite. he retired about 10 days after they won the gold medal. so he played the 1992 season in the NBA, then played for the dream team that summer. then retired from the NBA after the gold metal game
Larry injured would still give nightmares to lebron
bird would be the shooter
That's what I was going to say Scottie would guard LeBron and smother him to death and then I'd switch up with putting Karl Malone on him at certain times. The matchup to see would of course always be Michael vs Kobe
Hmm I feel like you focussed more on Larry, rather than someone like Barkley who was in his prime and clearly one of the better players on the team
Not just that, Sir Charles was the highest scorer on the DT.
Exactly!
Barkley had the best not one of, the best performance in the dream team, Magic and Jordan both agreed to it
Yup barkley won mvp of the tournament
He needed to explain to younger viewers why Larry Legend wouldn't just torch their entire team. If Larry and Magic were also in their prime, they are just the better versions of the redeem team.
I don't know anything about the Redeem Team, but the Redeem Team is in trouble.
Lol. Dream Team about to get the Angola treatment
big8dog88 you killed this comment bruh 😂😂
Sir Charles...
Barkley
😂😂
I would have Stockton, Jordan, pippen, Malone and Robinson as starters for the dream team. All 5 in their prime and with Jordan and pippen as bulls teammates and Stockton and Malone as jazz teammates 2 of the greatest duos of all time. Stockton pretty much would feed the ball to Jordan and Malone 2 of the greatest scorers and well talking about defense that’s five of the greatest defensive players you’ll see with Robinson blocking balls and 3 of the all time steal leaders with Mj and Stockton and pippen and Malone as 2 great lockdown defense. I got this starting line up in a sweep. Their is no way they are loosing a game agains the redeem team.
I cosign this. Unstoppable. 💯
You got that not right, but super right.
ngl this is the best comment so far lol
#PREACH
I think the redeemers would steal one game after the Dream Team relaxed a little realizing that they were gonna' take the series. Dream Team in 5.
Great analysis, I too believe the 92 Dream Team would win in 6 games. The bigs on the DT would be too much to handle. Now if both teams were in their prime, I’d say DT in 5. Prime Larry would be a game changer.
4 games, not 6
Yep the Dream Team wins in their prime in 4! At their age I think it’s would be 4-1!
Prime larry legend would be a menace on the court
I don’t care about their prime, it’s 4 regardless. Pippen is absolutely shutting down young Lebron. Magic is not letting CP do anything. MJ and Kobe would go hard. Robinson vs Howard? The whole time, no one’s stopping Barkley. When Stock and Malone comes in, it’s a wrap, game over. The problem is each player is a copy of a better more experienced player. You got lil MJ, Lil Stockton, You got Baby James and Pippen ain’t having that. Who is out shooting Bird? Dwight is truly going to get bodied by Robinson, Malone, and Ewing is going to intimidate all except Kobe. Carmelo is my guy, but Pippen ain’t having that either. Did I mention Magic yet? What are we doing? The IQ test reveals the Redeem team getting blown out because they were dominate physically which meant exhaustion. The DT was so effortless, they passed the ball like everyone wanted to get the most assists and watch the other show out. RT would have jumped higher moved faster, but not faster than the ball movement of Bird, Magic, Stock, MJ. Baby Shaq could jump out the gym, but he wasn’t going to keep out jumping Robinson and Ewing. And again, who was going to stop the round mound? He was 6’7 to be generous and no one on his own team could slow him down. Not Ewing, Robinson, Malone, maybe Pippen his teammate. As soon as Kobe or Lebron come off their man, their whole team gets abused like prostitutes. Howard will easily find himself banging and trying to front too many bigs in that, he will be out of position all game. If you watched, you saw a bunch of old men barely breathing hard and the RT tired sweaty and aggressive. The father and and son bull analogy comes to mind. Son speaks-“Dad, let run down their and catch a cow to fuck!” Dad replies- “ son let’s walk down and fuck them all.” Save your energy and don’t scare them, they’ll bend over instead of running away. LoL. I kinda switched the words a bit
The dream team would win fairly easily imo. If for no other reason than the big guys. Everything else is matched up pretty evenly but once you get to the PFs and Cs these teams aren't even in the same world.
Charles barkley out played em all ive watched the games and charles was a monster !!
@Mikeman Jordan He did in the 92 Olympics. Jordan didn't dominate like he did in the NBA. Barkley was the MVP.
@Mikeman Jordan But he did outplay him during the tournament.
Barkley had more points and shot well from 3 I remember trying to watch every game but it was hard to watch them for some reason back then I cant remember why but anyway Barkley played great but I wouldnt say outplayed Jordan. Jordan was doing alot more of the little things like Jordan always did. Barkley did well scoring and rebounding. I'm not taking away from Barkley I'm just helping those who didn't get to see know a little better what happened. I'm sure theres games on youtube tho if we search.
@Mikeman Jordan Maybe so but Barkley was the best player in the tournament.
Jordan would start the game do his thing, then sit on the bench and tell Barkley to feast big fella and Barkley filled his belly🤣
Who in their right mind would bet against a prime Jordan lol...
Nobody, but Kobe would give him a tough time.
At the end of the day the Dream Team bigs would be too much.
Me if prime LeBron or KD is on my team
Justice League you are gonna lose then
Mike seeing a prime Kobe would be like seeing himself..with better handles and three point shooting..scary
A6 Life if only Kobe had Jordan’s big ass hands
"...Boozer, Howard, Prince, Redd, Bosh..."
LOLOL!!!
Prime Howard and Prince were elite defenders and Michael Redd was always an All Star he just didnt have the fame because he played in a small market
@@mcmorelane3818 youre not seriously picking them to win against Stockton and Malone combo with Ewing at center AND Bird and Drexler rounding out the five.
@@gordox no not at all
IT'S GOING TO BOIL DOWN TO A FULL SQUAD OF 13 vs A STRONG SQUAD OF 13 FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. I THINK THE 13 MAN SQUAD WOULD WIN ,
I don't think the redeem team is a better roster but I think a team today with Curry, Harden, Lebron, Durant and Davis. With Lillard, Klay, Kawhi, Tatum, George, Paul and Zion off the bench would be more interesting.
Realized that there's like no even respectable American centers today to have in this conversation so this team would have to be running and shooting alot of 3s.
A group of Americans will never be as good as the Dream though, maybe if able to add guys internatiomal players like Giannis, Jokic, Doncic, Embiid and Gobert would make it alot more interesting.
The Redeem Team was in a life and death struggle with the Gasol brothers . Dream Team for the massive win 😊
dream team have weaker competition
@@ChonkyBoi_yt Gasol brothers were better competition? LOL 😂😆
I couldnt watch after peeking at comments. Are we to pretend Jordan would lose in any game of importance?
@@ChonkyBoi_ytno nothing dumbazzz
@@Nicknod16 Jordan lost games in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round of the playoffs before. What point are you trying to make ?
Dream Team actually made Basketball compete with Soccer in Worldwide ratings.
Ummm if these two teams played it would be Scottie Pippen guarding Lebron.
And then locked up by Pippen lmao
He was older then but he made Magic work in 91 Finals LB would have to work harder and would adjust like Magic did
@Jesus Saldana They have true centers waiting in the paint though physical skilled and athletic bigs tougher than prime Dwight Howard that gave LB problems
@Jesus Saldana Bruh Magic was 31 in 91 since he was a 20 year old Finals MVP in 80
@Jesus Saldana That is a joke right both are taller and Ewing is the one who taught Dwight how to play D remember
Barkley and pippen would give the 08 team the blues
Berkley an Malone would knock the hell out of LeBron an he don't have the heart to take a beating night after night so he would be not driven the ball down the lane he be more of out side player only 2 players would be serious threat would be Bryant an Wade night in an night our
Dream Team would absolutely dominate in a series...
Barkley and Malone were beasts,,
Everyone goes on about the redeem team. But doesn't anyone remember the 96 Dream Team? That consisted of half of the 92 Dream Team, plus the current all star players at the time. They were pretty badass! I would pick the 96 Dream Team over the Redeem Team.
I was just thinking that. They added Shaq (Prime Shaq at that) and Penny.
The 96 team didn't have Jordan.
@@mitchtherevolutiontrue, but Shaq and Penny was a pretty good trade off
I watched the 96 team in ATL, ridiculous and they were at home, it was just different. 92 team was old, even with prime MJ.
When it goes down to the wire I don't bet against Michael Jordan in his prime
Kobe clutch jean is just as deadly
NEVER, EVER!!!
@@DeshaunJames No, he's not.
Kobe is my all time fav, but the dream team would wipe their asses with the redeem team
There's no other team that can surpass the Dream Team.
There will never be.
‘96 team with Shaq, Hakeem, and David Robinson is probably more solid top to bottom
It is the redeem team
The 1996 team was better!
Redeem team is way better
The ceo of evolution says this comment is cap 🧢
What made the Dream team work was their ability to play together. All other dream teams were personalities and not team work. The 1992 Dream team will always be the best there ever was
THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!
That's why IT had to be left off. Cant risk ruining the perfect chemistry.
exactly. they knew how to play team ball!
@@barrymccociner4105 it's a shame though. IT or Dominique Wilkins should have been on that team instead of Laetnerr.
Amen.
SCOTTIE PIPPEN on LeBron !
You have to know that 92 dream team played like a real team but not a all star team .
All of them played extremely well even when they are off ball.
Consider: Malone, Barkley, Robinson and Ewing had NO equals on the redeem team - they would feast and the game plan could easily be changed for them to feast. They would feast offensively and defensively - they were tougher. Barkley feasted during the Olympics. Defensively, Stockton, Pipen and Jordan would feast and channel them right into Robinson and Ewing who were great shot-blockers - Robinson being one of the best ever. Malone was more muscular and physical than ANY on the redeem team. He was a beast. The drawback for the Dream Team was really Bird being injured and Magic coming back from retirement. Otherwise it wouldn't be much of a competition because Bird was a bad, bad man and incredible team leader and so was Magic! The Redeem Team would have to resort to long distance shooting with a hand in their faces over great defenders.
If Magic and Bird were at their primes, yea. It's completely over.
But would they feast tho?
That's what I really want to know.
Theyd destrrrroy.
None of the redeemers are used to taking their vaunted 3 pointers while being pressured by the defence. Poor lambs wouldnt know what hit em
If Bird and Magic was in thir prime it be would not be a debate. But i believe 2012 team is better than 2008 us team.
@bojo perez lejames without kobe bronze
I don’t get how you would contradict yourself with saying Bird was one of the top 3 players on the Dream Team but would be a handicap for them. As it was, he wasn’t heavily played, Pippen would be the player to gauge against. And the redeem team had Jason Kidd, he’s taken more teams to the finals than Chris and Deron combined. They had to call him back after the U.S. lost without him in later years. Magic and Stockton would still handle him, but he’s ahead of the others.
I think folks like to think of both team's guys being in their prime in this fantasy.
You're right!
Yup Kidd and Barkley should have been talked about a lot more for their respective teams. I remember quite a few dream team games where I thought Barkley was the best player on the floor.
Its simple:
The team with Jordan will win
oh man, perfect answer ... lol
Well a team would win if the had Larry magic or Jordan on it
@@Sirarchibald227 Dream Team had all 3.
LOL true
Kobe Lebron and KD killing them folks
The Dream Team wins every time. It's not even close.
you crazy it would be close
The dream team was also more used to physical contact due to there era
Most of them played 2003 and early physical wont matter
@@torymason4651 redeem team played actual comp lmao
You should watch 2008 Olympics finals, most physical game in Olympics basketball history
@@beanteam2217 not really, if you call Ricky Rubio comp you got it bud😂
@@Gerberslay Spain had actual nba players Lmao. Who tf did the dream team play?
You’d also have to give the 92’ team the physical trainers and supplements of 2008. This adds life and years to the aging Dream Team players. - Imagine Bird and Magic with today’s rehab PT.
But the game still evolves regardless of doctors
Supplements, I think you mean PEDs
Why do people obsessed with the past always give the old players the current player's abilities, nutrition and so on but never give the new players the old school mentality when they try to compare the eras? These players are better, not necessarily greater but they are far more skilled, much faster and far more athletic. I love the Dream team but they're too slow and unathletic to keep up with the redeem team
@@BooHefner - Wait…who’s “obsessed” with anything. - I’m a firefighter and I understand how much the supplements and modern training equipment in every fire station affects the fitness of todays workforce. It’s just easier to stay in shape longer today than it was 40 years ago.
Make the old guys play all the aau games the new guys did
Dream team in a sweep
I think it would be 6 or 7 game’s
Definitely not a sweep
definitely a sweep
Definitely a sweep with huge margins.
How can someone bet on the redeem team if they had hard time with Spain?????????
Comon, it doesnt take a high school grad to understand that. Not unless you have a logic like those with a flat earther
@@drow27 international basketball has developed since 1992. There are a lot of talents outside the US. I still believe the dream team would win just coz they have Jordan.
I would love to see the match up of MJ vs Kobe and Pippen vs Lebron, but the slaughter of Barkley on Bosh/Boozer would be all that would be talked about
don't forget what Karl Malone and John Stockton would do to the reserves lmao. There might be a lawsuit at the end of it all.
@Greg A it would be interesting to see what LeBron could do against such a defensive force
@Greg A no defensive player can completely shut down a great like LeBron. That's why, even when Kawhi won Finals MVP, LeBron still scored 28 ppg (though the defense was ofc more effective than that stay shows). Scottie would give him trouble but I wouldn't doubt LeBron's genius and talent to figure something out since he's much more than a scorer. Imagine LeBron playmaking to Kobe and Durant, and the lobs to Howard.
LMAO exactly, Charles wud crush those guys into retirement
@Greg A fo sho
thare iz no comparison, the "92" Dream Team was the greatest sport team on Earth 2 ever assembled, kase closed.
Tama ka jan..team mj tau😂
I don’t know man the Russian hockey team from the 80s. Beat the NHL All-Star team and a couple NHL teams more than once.
Dean Bryant that coach was crazy
they are like the avengers 92 dream team
Hahahah case close
Best players on the Dream Team were: Jordan, Pippen and Barkley. Also the Dream Team played man-to-man more and pressure defense this is something that the Redeem team isn't as used to. Also Karl Malone is the second or third hardest worker in NBA that I have ever witnessed.
Agree with Jordan and Barkley, but Pippen wasn't that good of an offensive player. I'd put Drexler, Malone, Robinson or even Stockton ahead of him.
facts: Redeem Team needed Kobe to win the Gold 🏅
In the last minutes btw...
R.I.P Kobe...
That's why they're called redeem team
Donnie Pate You’re a horrible person I don’t care if you don’t think Kobe was a good basketball player but he’s a human being, what you are saying is disrespectful to his memory.The man died with his daughter that day, think about what you say.
Kailo_110 I’m talking about the mans game
I remember those olympic games, I was a teenager. I clearly remember there was a US player who was sweeping the game and leading the US team in many aspects. I didn't know anything about this player because most of us in Spain only knew Magic, Bird, Jordan, Ewing... That player was Charles Barkley.
Redeem team is not even the second best Usa team
The second best Usa team was 1996 team
Yes!
Well said. Cant argue with that
I mean the redeem team had a lot of young talent with less experience. Kobe and Jordan were the same age (29) on their respective teams, so it would be cool to see that matchup if nothing else
Even the 96 team would stomp the 08 team
@@jasonmatthis4831 the 94 team would beat them aswell
The more and more 90s basketball i watch, the more i realized how underrated some of these players were, particularly Stockton! Although his career was shorter than most, it was a powerhouse.
isnt stockton play for like 19 years in the nba. i am not gonna say that its shorter than most.
Stockton played forever. And he rarely missed a game. That's one of the reasons he was so good.
Chris Weber said he knocked Stockton down as hard as he could. He just got up like nothing happened and said good play. Weber was just flabbergasted.
How the hell did you go almost the whole video and not mention Barkley as if he was a nonfactor. Are you serious? Just stop it.
Christopher Payne right. The top scorer for the squad.
Ohh.... and the most popular at the time.
Right? Barkley was a top 5 if not 3 player at this point in the NBA and the best player on this squad
Shit he left out jason kidd from the redeem team second unit by picking dwill over him lol
That's the scariest and deepest part of the DT. Barkley (as great as he was) being an afterthought
Which team has Jordan??? That's the one I am taken
how tf do u not know
@@chr1s_1 he knows he's just saying it rhetorically
Richard Kiereama ohhhhh
@@chr1s_1 chill.lol
@@chr1s_1 r/wooooosh
The big man that the 92 team had would kill the 08 big man
Facts
Don't underestimate prime Dwight.
@@Chuck999Norris David Robinson would kill him
@@Chuck999Norris Against the true era of big men, an era Dwight never played in? Dwight would be a 4 in the 90s. Robinson and Ewing would eat him alive. They were much larger men and just as strong and their athleticism was nothing to be sniffed at and their skill was elite level and they both could shoot and hit free-throws.
@@raurman4946 You're funny. Many skinny guys dominated the 90s like Penny Hardaway. These eras are fast, LeBron will bulldoze them like a runaway train
You should take into account the synergy/chemistry. The dream team has advantage in this criteria as well.
Dream team would destroy them even without MJ. Every player in DT is a legend by himself.
That's stupid really you think Kobe and Lebron would fall to that squad without MJ how deluded
@@andrewortiz6430 Easily!! Kobe and Lebron fell to the 08 Celtics!! That's not a delusion, that's what happened in real life LMFAOO
@@777YOUniverse guy were talking about Olympic teams what in the hell are you talking about
First, we will never know. Second the game has evolved players have evolved. U rarely fucking see 6'8 6'9 players move as fast and jump as high as players now. Oh what about the physicality? If that redeem team will face the dream team on rules they are accustomed to of course they have the advantage.
@@777YOUniverse they weren't playing together vs the Celtics dumbass
125-100, Dream Team over Redeem Team, on average. The bench players would dominate and be the main cause for the large differential. Plus....Jordan in his prime? He would want to embarrass his opponents. The spread would likely be -12 in favor of the Dream Team, but I honestly believe they cover that most nights. Dream Team in 5!
No way the Dream team is allowing 100 points. The defensive players, controlling the boards, the 2 best tempo controlling PG's. They don't give up a hundred.
@@ABrown-hs7fy sorry he didnt put jason kidd . Lock down defender
Stop it!
Dream Team by 17!
Barkley MVP
Absolutely
You forgot the last, 2 zeroes.
Yes! People are forgetting how DOMINANT Charles was in 1992. Forget that Bird was a shell of himself; he didn't have to be great with Charles dominating scoring and rebounding.
Ok boomer
Scalping Forever I would take Barkley Over any nowadays player in a fraction of a hearbeat. Also I would take him Over any redeem players (sorry Kobe, much respect for you and your legacy). Barkley nowadays would dominate with his speed, skill, strength and b-ball wisdom. 3point were a last resort back then, players were capable of shooting, but the coach will bench them is they abuse that play. Barkley could shoot, pass and defend very well no doubt. today he would be in GOAT talks. But he was playing in an era were they had strong and skill players and they played rough, no like ballerina
I have only 2 WORDS for this hypothetical matchup - ABSOLUTE MURDER!, this Redeem team stands no chance to the Big boy era!
Ain't no comparison.. the original dream team would smash the redemption team easily.. easy money
Giorgio 510 I would agree, but you do also have to realize, statistics, and computer simulated matchups wouldn’t account for 1 thing.
That thing being WILLPOWER.
It would be very close between the two teams to determine which is better since willpower has historically made trash players like Jeremy Lin turn into freak athletes.
@@501jaylee so what does statistics and computer generated matchups have to do with anything??? What's the reason for bringing any of that up? All that shit seems pretty fucking stupid to me for you to bring any of it up. The original dream team were made of not only stars, but stars with very high IQs that KNOWS how to play team ball with each other without any coaching. They're all dominant players that are more rugged except for Kobe bcuz he played in part of that era. But that WILLPOWER you're speaking of ain't gonna help cuz the original dream team plays with a chip on their shoulders that may also be recognized as WILLPOWER
Giorgio 510 never
Yeah I'm betting heavy dream. EASY money is right.
100% agreed! The 90’s NBA Leage overall was better and much more physical as well
The 96 team would kill the 08 team
96???
@@jediknight5179 Penny grant hill Scottie pippen Shaq the dream Barkley Malone who on the 08 team is stopping them
Lol!! Too true
Christopher Harris Reggie Miller and Gary Payton also.
They didn't exactly play inspired ball in the Olympics, but they're the most underrated team in USA basketball history.
This was still the era of big men, and that team had Shaq, Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley, and Karl Malone.
I agree! The depth of the Dream team sets it apart.
'92 Dream Team is the greatest basketball team of ALL Time and no one would ever stand a chance. Too much talent too much chemistry too much intensity.
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I think you *can* do it primarily because the ‘92 team only had 11/12 HOF players so *if* you took the top 12 NBA players right now or in the early 2000s you can make a very solid case, but the chemistry HAS to be there
I am the biggest Bird fan you'll ever talk to and I will ALWAYS say that 1984-86 Bird was the best player I've ever seen; but to say he was a top 3 player in 1992 is not true... Bird did not even make an all-NBA team in 92 and didn't play in the all-star game due to injury.
Malone, Robinson, Barkley, Ewing, Drexler, Pippen, Mullin, and Stockton were all more productive in 1992.
I'd take the massive front court advantage of the Dream team as they could still match-up with redeem on the wings.
Do you have any Bird games on DVD?
Exactly he wouldn’t be in the convo or playing because he was sidelined due to back injuries. Isiah Thomas should have been in there instead of Larry but politics kept him out.
Stockton and MJ don’t also impress you on the wings? Lol. The comparison is a joke.
- The video creator said Bird was coming off the bench for his Dream Team. (Bird was a TOP 3 in the 80s but for This fictional matchup, he is coming off the bench).
Dream Team in a sweep. MJ and Pippen would never come off the floor. You have to remember that the only reason the bench players saw as many minutes as they did in the Olympics was due to the lopsided scores. Michael Jordan would take this matchup more personally than any Finals series. That spells doom for everyone else.
John Caparulo 💯% agreed
While I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, It's not unreasonable to think the Dream team would win at least 1 game.
Exactly! Don't forget, Jordan as a 50yr old executive was still schooling NBA guys in practices
@John Caparulo you're not wrong.
@Macus Alexander Liew This is one of the most delusional statements I've ever heard, about any subject. Today's players lack the skill 90's players had due to the soft rules. Simply put, it is much easier to shoot and get to the basket in today's game. the Dream Team was better skilled, had more top 10 players, and played more physically. It's a good thing this match never happened or Lebron's GOAT ambitions, though still not possible, would have been laid to rest.
You forgot one key thing, the top 3 for the Dream Team wouldn’t be Magic Larry and Mike. Like you said, they weren’t in their prime. They would be Barkley, Jordan, Pippen.
Top 2 are def barkley and mj. Id put malone in the 3 spot tho. Cant go wrong with pippen though.
Benjamin Kelly yea he lost credibility off the claim lol I couldn’t watch any more
In my mind “did this guy just say magic and birds dominated the 90s?” lmao they were done by 92
@Antonio Jackson Yup. And Patrick also let's you setup a half court game and get the other bigs in foul trouble with his slow developing fade away, and he usually got it to fall and then made the free throw.
Y’all do realize that Barkley led the team in points right ? Lol that was his finals year right after that
Hoop Highlights you do realize he the nba mvp on 93 right so it wasn’t his final year lol
If you were to create a single team roster out of combining both teams, ten of them would come from the Dream Team.
John Stockton is also an effective 3-Point shooter when he needs to be.
very good point
That's what I said too
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Jiiiooohn Sstockton!! Sends the Utah Jazz, in the NBA Finals!!!
you forget he was playing with a broken leg
Good point of the difference in age and health at the top of the roster. I think a lot of fans forget that piece
Come on Pippen and Michael would have drastically limited James Lebron and Kobe. There is no comparison the Dream team is by far a better team.
Kobe at this point in his career was probably either as good as Jordan or as close as anyone will ever get. They would cancel each other out. I think the Bulls players wouldn´t be the deciding factors, but the DT´s depth would.
@@samuelperezgarcia and Scottie was in his prime as well. He'd limit James enough. It would come down to the big men. DT would destroy Howard and bosh
Yes and ask they're canceling each other out so to speak Wade would come in and drop 30 Off the Bench
@@datmadapuka441 kawhi leonard is basically the same level defender as pippen and lebron dropped 28 ppg on him in the finals. scottie wouldnt limit shit AND people seem to forget scottie only averaged like 15 ppg for his career. lebron would shut his ass down completely pretty much making him a 1 dimensional player at best
@@samuelperezgarcia how you gonna say Kobe was better when he only won his 4th championship 5 years after the last? Jordan was always the best player in the league once he reached his prime. From 91 to 98 he was scoring champion, mvp and a lot of other awards. Kobe was great but stop exagerating.
Just saw this today. I agree and think your analysis is spot on. However I’d like to add this. Can you imagine Kobe vs mj prime to prime? Kobe and mj both would elevate to superhuman levels to one up each other and I would love to see that. Kobe and his 81 point game, 62 points in 3 quarters, 9 straight 40 plus point games against mj’s flu game, 60 plus against the Celtics in the playoffs, 30ppg career average, 50% plus fg. Man that would be insane
Dream team in 5! Due to jet lag, ladies and autographs. Let's move on.
Stockton would thrive with four hall of famers to pass to and a high school three point line. The second team would score on almost every possession.
Dream Team allll the wayyy in 5!!! Now imagine if Bird & Magic were in their PRIMES(healthy) that would be an easy sweep lol!!!
Replace 2005 LeBron with 2013 LeBron and 2008 Kobe for 2003 Kobe it would be close
@@TheFlash-je3bl In my opinion it still would not be close
@@TheFlash-je3bl prime bird and magic is much more dangerous
I absolutely agree the 92 dream team in 5 no doubt about it. Maybe even a sweep
Magic was only one year removed from being second in the MVP award.
While MJ, Magic and Bird were the biggest names - Barkley was undoubtedly one of the top two players on the 92 team.
Barkley, Stockton, Jordan, Pippen, Malone, Ewing and Robinson all in their primes. DT2 had to make every shot because they won't be getting many rebounds 😂
"Who will win? a) MJ, or b)..."
"A".
...oh, and: how on earth do you think Bird will defend James, when there is a Pippen? 😆
Or Barkley.
Pippen is a beast but come on it is Lebron James he is to strong, explosive and skilled to be guarded by him and this is without mentioning his IQ
@@somerandomguy3037 I'm not saying Pippen would stop him. But he would impact his numbers, definitely.
My point was that Pippen is the better man for the job, compared to Bird.
@@somerandomguy3037 LeBron is lockdown by pippen hesitates to penetrate as Robinson is the security guard
The Redeem Team’s X-factor is Kobe. Because Wade, Lebron, Dwight and Melo were all part of that team that lost to Greece in the 2006 Fiba World Championships Semi Finals.
That being said, Dream Team all the way.
The Redeem team had two years to mold together as an Olympic team, are you giving the Dream Team that opportunity?
In this powder puff environment. C'mon one elbow from Barkley some of them would be crying.
That's it, Charles be all like "in the Olympics we can play more physical?" Then laughs hysterically
Another from Malone someone needs to call 911.
@@frankfeng2701 Yeah, anyone remember when Isiah Thomas got knocked out by Malone? 😂😂😂
Lebron is the size of Karl Malone and has the athleticism of Clyde Drexler He is not getting ruffed you by Larry Bird and Mullin or Magic
@@coop9778 Oh yes he is. Totally different era. Isiah Thomas would of knocked LeBron out.
MJ said “Kobe’s dream team comment is not one of his smart answers. Remember who learned from who.”
I agree with you, Dream Team in 6. Good breakdown.
if i hear you right , the two greatest two way players in the history of the N B A , the two greatest power forwards in N B A history , two hall of fame centers , the two greatest point guards in N B A history , and of course the big one , the most competitive player in the history of sports , sorry my friend , NOT EVEN CLOSE !
Isaiah Thomas was a better point guard but what's not allowed on the team because him and Jordan didn't get along
Thats opinion.. So lets just say arguablely the 2 best point guards of all time. Isaiah being the 3rd thats arguablely 2nd best point guard.
@@davidsmith-by5nv hi david , my analysis was based primarily on the position each player played , and from various lists and opinion compiled by notable nba experts , players , coaches , sports journalist etc. if as a point guard you are at the top of the nba's all time list of both assists and steals , i.e. stockton , it's hard to argue against you , isiah was a much better all round player but that team was already loaded with legendary all round players .
@@marcustharonjim814 I thought it was about him calling Magic gay because he thought only gay men got AIDS/HIV.
1 of the most competitives in history :)
he may be better player (well he IS but not by much), but i think Lary and Russell where as competitive as Jordan (cant say more couse there are all at the MAX there)
Larry Bird would be coming off the bench and playing very limited minutes in this hypothetical match up. Pippen was the starting small forward if I remember correctly. A '92 Bird was not a top 3 player on the Dream team squad. Good stuff but your match ups have to be fair in this analysis.
he said that in the end of the video. you probably comment this when the video is still going on. He said pippen will be the starting sf while bird will be in the bench although bird is likely will be switching with chris mullin.
What was the point of putting Bird in the "three primary players" analysis? Bird clearly was way past his physical best, though he could still shoot, pass and rebound when his back let him get onto the floor. Magic was still terrific though (looked like a million bucks in the 92 all star game) and I don't think he got enough credit in this video. The only player on the Redeem Team that could guard him is LeBron and that would really throw off their rotation.
If you're being fair, the three best players on the Dream Team are probably Jordan, Barkley, and Pippen (Robinson would also be in the running). Barkley was absolutely unstoppable in the international game. He shot 70% from the field and 80% from three point range in the Olympics which are cartoon numbers. Pippen was at the height of his powers in 1992 and doesn't get near the credit he deserves for how awesome a two way force he was. He would give LeBron fits and could also cover Kobe on switches.
Kobe Bryant in 2008 was at the peak of his game and would give Michael a very hard time. Anybody who thinks peak Kobe wasn't one of the greatest in basketball history is just blinded by either love for Jordan or hate for Bryant. Yes, I believe peak Jordan is slightly better, but only slightly. I view the matchup of Jordan and Drexler versus Wade and Kobe as the most intriguing and believe it to be the most even. Four of the top five two guards in the history of the game, all in their primes. Slight edge to the Dream Team here.
Center is Dream Team all the way. Although Dwight was playing very well at that stage of his career, he was the best of a weak era of centers and really is undersized for a classic center. He relied mainly on his athleticism and defensive timing. But he's not a better athlete than either of the players he'd be facing and is giving away size as well. He had a tough time guarding Shaq when O'Neal was at the end of his career and a shadow of his former self. He never could carry a team offensively. David Robinson and Ewing were both in their primes and the combination of the two of them would be too much for Dwight, who would probably end up in foul trouble. The advantage clearly goes to Dream Team.
Point guard goes to Dream Team also in my opinion. Jason Kidd was 35 years old at the time and Magic was a better player at that point in his career despite missing the 92 season. Magic as mentioned above would be a matchup nightmare. Stockton, though, is possibly the best point in history not named Magic or Oscar. He's better than Paul by a solid margin. He's also considerably better than Deron Williams.
Power forward is all Dream Team. Barkley and Malone are hands down better than anybody the Redeemers have.
Small forward is the only area where the Redeem Team has a case, but Mullin and Pippen for me give you nearly as much as Carmelo and LeBron. Pippen would hound James all over the court and Mullin would feast on Anthony's lackluster defense. I still think the advantage slightly goes to the Redeem team because James would be a force and Anthony would still get buckets, but that's the only roster spot where they're arguably better.
Dream Team could lose a single game, but in a best of seven probably wins 4-1 or 4-2.
King Dino Dragonite why would he bury a main point at the end?
Larry Bird don't need play a lot min. If he play 10 to 20 min he still beat you because go back look his history video
It wasn't that Bird didn't need to play minutes, it's that he couldn't at that point. His back was killing him and he was basically finished as a player. He wasn't the guy in the history video anymore. He couldn't move out there. He retired after the Olympics because he knew he couldn't do it anymore.
Go back and watch some games from the 91-92 Celtics season. When he could even play (only 45 games that year), Bird had trouble guarding even mid-tier NBA talent, let alone LeBron and Carmelo of the Redeem Team. He could still shoot and get rebounds, but on the other end he was a complete liability. It's too bad, because Bird at his peak was a terrific defender. His body just broke down.
just imagine if you could fix Larry's back for the game...
Just imagine if you could put 2012 lebron and 2006 kobe there
Gg
@@jaobille79 still wouldn't fly
He'd be 90% from 3
@@jaobille79 they’re STILL LOSING.
I honestly am biased. I love the dream team. They are the originals. The team work and the goals seemed so much brighter than the redeem team. Statistically it would be close I'm sure, but in my heart and I believe in most fans hearts it's not even close the dream team takes it
Heart, defense and the Jordan factor. Do you honestly think it would even be close?
The Godfather Nobody does.
-- Kobe may be called Black Mamba, but Jordan is BLACK JESUS.
LOL, there is no Jordan factor here. Kobe would've outshoot Jordan to prove a point.
Dream team would surely win this matchup but you just cant say it would not be close, redeem team would probably lack of muscle on the court, when it comes to talent both are the same, The 2012 Olympic team has the better chance in beating the dream tho
@@amjan Kobrick ? ?
Best analysis between this matchup. Keep it up man!
The Dream & Redeem team have nothing on "The Regime team" Starting 5= Luke Walton, Lavar Ball, Kwame Brown, Jeremy Linn, and Denzel Washington because he beat Ray Allen in the movie "He Got Game"
Wtf 😂
He got game... rotfl
Denzel actually lost that game at the end brah, Jesus just committed to that school out of the love for his father.
@@SteveFromLongIsland first words came to mind
Barkley and Malone being PF's can take all of the Redeem's big man, how much more w/true big's in Patrick and David
I always wondered why Hakeem never joined the Dream Team
Top 10 Sports He wasn’t a US citizen at the time.
Sir Osis true but you would think that if you wanted to represent the US you can if your good enough. You know who they also could’ve added is Shaq, yes he was young at the time but still dominant on the Magic
Top 10 Sports I see your point. Hakeem was my favorite center when I was growing up and some say he was closer to 6’ 10 than 7’ so that makes him even more impressive but I do understand the Olympic committees decision to want people to be an actual citizen of the country they represent. Laettner got on only because he was NCAA player of the year. My friends and I were all bummed that it wasn’t Shaq but I think the thought process was that the 12th man (the one college add on) wouldn’t get much playing time anyway so it really didn’t matter who they added.
@@picafavo3466 Easy, Hakeem didn't become an American citizen until 1993.
The way you summed this up was perfect in my eyes. You nailed it bro ^ ^
Stopped watching when you doubled down on putting Bird in the best three on the Dream Team.
Coach Daly himself said Barkley (you know the NBA MVP that season) was the best player on that team other than Jordan.
Also, any comparison giving the ‘08 team a chance is ignoring the Jordan factor. To start, Jordan’s college Olympic team wiped the NBA all-stars in ‘84. Jordan also never lost a finals series, and was a worthy final’s MVP 6 times.
If you think prime Jordan, together with his partner Pippen, backed up by prime Barkley, and a rotation through that Dream bench is letting ANY team beat them, you’re crazy.
Thank you! Well put. I got mad respect for the players on that '08 team, especially Kobe and D-Wade, but I doubt that they would be able to cope with the defensive intensity of the Dream Team. And where would their scoring opportunities come from? That '08 would get blown into another dimension on the boards! I watched every game of that tournament in '92 (along with the PanAm tournament in Portland) and have to agree with you about Charles... he was a force of nature that year and should have been mentioned when discussing the top players. Funny you should mention coach Daly, he didn't have to do too much after he got the '92 team playing as a cohesive unit, but this is the guy that came up with nightmare scenarios for Jordan and the bulls in the late '80s. Pretty sure he would also be pivotal in creating a hellish experience for the '08 team when rotating players and dealing with matchups.
Exactly, and none of this is shade on Lebron and Kobe. The Dream Team is just as the name suggests.
Believe it or not Barkley was not in his prime in 1992. He says in many interviews he was a better player in Philadelphia. He was MVP for the Suns, but he was much more of a force with the Sixers.
LOL, Webber's college team destroyed Jordan's Dream Team!!
@@amjan you dont know the whole story
No matter what team you have, and who your opponents are, there is one guy you DON'T want to see on the other team - MJ
You didn't consider the biggest factor. That insane competitive nature of MJ. He would want to crush any comparisons between himself and Kobe or Lebron, like he did with Drexler. I'll call it a gentleman's sweep for the Dream Team.
Barkley was also in his prime and would have been unstoppable in the post and on the glass.
While Jordan's better than Kobe there's not a huge gap between the two if they're both in their primes. Jordan would definitely have to bring his A+ game to expose his slight advantage over Kobe in his prime. No one's dominating either of these great players in their primes.
@@greatray6262 It wasn't considered to be much of a gap at all between Jordan & Drexler either, until people started making the comparison and then MJ had the opportunity to show a difference on the court heads up.
I believe MJ would do likewise if matched up with Kobe in his prime. Even as an old man on the Wizards Mike competed hard with prime Kobe. I believe the gap is bigger than you put on. And would be made apparent to the world if MJ felt his legacy was in question.
@@lainiwakura4678 I don't care if its MJ or anybody else... it's certain people in the game that you just can't stop... and LeBron and Kobe would terrorize the dream team. Carmelo Anthony was a savage then to... idc who you are... You not stopping that.
@@debo10100 There were plenty of great players in the 90's, and when pushed MJ rose to the occasion over all of them. Maybe you weren't alive to experience it first hand. Those of us who were have no reason to expect otherwise.
The one advantage the Redeem Team would have would be negated by the short 3 pt. line in international play. At that range MJ, Drexler, and even Barkley would become viable threats. Let alone Bird, Mullin, and Stockton.
I just don't see a scenario with the Redeem Team winning that doesn't include MJ & Barkley on the bench for long periods.
@@debo10100 I will give you that Melo was very well suited to international play. He would be a handful. Also consider though that if he goes off Pippen makes it a point to step to him. He loved those challenges.
This no contest!!🤣🤣Mj,,Barkley,, magic,, pippen,,Malone,, Patrick,,drexler,Robinson,,,,bird,, Stockton,,Mullins,,they would destroy them,,, seriously 😒,,,
I agree 👍✌️
I wouldn't go as far as destroy. They would be close competitive games man. C'mon destroy??
Lmao u can leave Mullins out of it.
Isaiah should've been in that line up.
Ok boomer
I think the dreqm team will branded as bullies. Modern basketball is for sissies! 😂
Barkley got called a bully when he elbowed an opponent in the '92 Olympics.
Yes, you got that right! Especially with the snowflakes today.
Modern basketball is about skill, not toughness.
yep
amjan like ice dancing?
Imagine if they would’ve chosen Shaq over Laettner. Remember that was the summer going into Shaq’s rookie year and in that year he avg’d 23pts 14reb and 3.5blks. And he would’ve been the last guy on the bench right after Bird with his bad back. They would’ve undoubtedly been the best sports team in history FOR ALL TIME without anyone even thinking of questioning if they even had the slightest of chances against them. Crazy.
Another great video. All valid points. The remix is great, but nothing beats the original.
I don’t think anyone from the redeem team would have done a good job guarding Magic. His style was unparalleled
Jason kidd would, dude is goat lvl pg defender
@@Liam-ex4mfmagic is 6'9" lol how is kidd gonna guard him?😂
Can you imagine?!? What a fun series that would be to watch!!
The Dream Team in 5
4!
4 because 2005 LeBron will get locked up by Pippen
In four. I dont think Kobe would have held prime MJ. Especially a prime MJ with that many options. Dream team simply had too many weapons.
Yeah because basically the Redeem team is a downgrade of the Dream Team. For example, Kobe is like a generic Jordan.
That is my pick as well.
There’s no comparison at all. The Dream Team wins hands down.
That is not a hands down win
@@andrewortiz6430 Oh but it is. ESPECIALLY if international ball allows for more physicality.
@@leojanuszewski1019 but it isn't that's the fact
@@andrewortiz6430 Dream Team had at least 3 guys as strong as Lebron if not stronger...and they'd be waiting for him in the paint if Lebron ever got by Pippen. Kobe was great but he never belonged in any comparison to MJ. KD is great but would have misery playing DT in mileau where physicality was allowed. Etc. I'd pay a lot of money for a time machine that could match these teams up.
@@leojanuszewski1019 none of what you said is factual is it a possibility yes is it a possibility the other team wins yes
I don't think the Redeem Team can beat the Dream Team's front court.
I don't think the redeem team could beat dream team 2
@Jamal Vines pause, ok let's not get too carried away
@@Jzarecta lol, take a look at the 1990 All-Star game.Look at BOTH teams (specially East line-up).Man, I would pay to see that. (and nothing would make me bet my money in the redem team).
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The warriors won 3cchips out of 5 being undersized or playing Small ball
One thing you didn't quite touch on is teamwork - The Dream Team had Jordan/Pippen as well as Stockton/Malone. Two of the most storied pairs in NBA history. Stockton and Malone had been playing together for 8 years at that point, while Jordan and Pippen had been together for 5. Compare that to the Redeem Team, who only had Williams and Boozer from the same team, and they had only played together for 2 years. There's a level of trust and knowledge that comes from time together, especially at that level.
92 all day
There's another part of the game you did not mention : trashtalk ^^ Jordan, Bird, Magic would mentally destroy th redeem team...
Trash talking Kobe would not end well ask Jordan about it 😂
u mean Bird , Bird , Birs , Bird .............. Bird --> jordan , Magic will mentalkly destroy the redeam team with Trash Talk , with all due respect, and THERE IS much respect , when it come to trash talk larry Legend RULED !!!! (there a reason he considared the BEST trash talker in BB history :) )
@@jonathancoronado6043 Yup 55 on a 40yr old MJ, what a beast of a performance eh
This...💯💯🤣🤣
Alvin Joe The redeem team SUXXED they would have know chance even little girls know this
It's rather simple, actually, Jordan doesn't lose a 7-game series with everything on the line.
I think in a single game the Dream Team wins by 20+. I say this due to them all being more used to the physicality compared to the Redeem Team players, plus their ability to play together as a team. In a 7 game series, I believe the Dream Team beats the Redeem Team in 5. I think the Redeem Team steals one game based on their mentioned perimeter shooting, but as you stated, the Dream Team had some of if not the best perimeter defenders of all-time, so the Redeem Team isn't going to get away with that for long.
there are no match up here:
dream team has two best players in every posistion, from pg to centers, ang 1 is the goat, 10 first ballot hall of famer, the team itself is inducted to hall of fame...
Jonny Arnett, great video work, decent analysis, and the music wasn't overpowering. Although we agree the 1992 team would defeat the 2008 squad, there are a few minor points of discord I would like to share. Of course your quote of the Dream Team's smallest win margin of 32 versus Croatia in the gold medal matchup was accurate, but their average was significantly higher at 43. Not only did the Redeem Team have a much smaller points gap (27), but in the gold medal contest, Spain made them work for three and one half quarters and lost by only 11. Conversely, the 92 team had no such contests en route to gold. The top three comparison at first glance may appear to favor the 08 team, but closer examination would show a clearer picture. MJ was of course MJ, and while Magic and Bird are clearly past their physical peaks, Johnson is still the masterful playmaker and Larry Legend would still light them up from outside in limited minutes obviously. The glaring mismatch referenced between Bird and James would be minimal if the coach allowed it to occur at all. Pippen would shut young James down or leave the task to Malone or Barkley. D. Wade, James and Kobe (a Jordan analog) were still at their peak, but in terms of overall team defense, the 1992 team had an answer for each of them (e.g. Ewing, Robinson, and MJ). Three point efficiency with the shorter FIBA line would favor both teams equally, with no distinct advantage to either group. In a manner of speaking, you alluded to as much when you briefly mentioned Jordan as a viable three point contributor (remember what he did to Portland in the 1992 NBA Finals). Coach Chuck Daly was a master at managing talent, player's egos and devising strategy, and keep in mind that although Coach Mike Krzyzewski was skilled in coaching the international game, keep in mind he was on Daly's 1992 staff. Lastly, let's discuss intangibles. No player on the 2008 team is reputed to possess the indomitable will to win to the degree of Jordan, Bird or Magic. Admittedly, Bryant comes close, and Bird or Magic are physically not up to sustaining serious on court battles, but if you're looking for someone to take a shot in the last few seconds to win, no player did it better than the 1992 team's "Big Three". Mullen, Stockton, Barkley or Pippen wouldn't be bad options in that situation either.
Good points, although I would assert that the level of international competition was lower in '92, and there was also a mental advantage since that was the first time NBA players were in the Olympics.
Dream Team would beat the Redeem Team. Pippen would guard Bron, not Larry. Dwight would have his hands full with Robinson and Ewing and would get outplayed. When Dwight came off of the floor Robinson and Ewing would feast on the less physical Bosh. Speaking of feasting, Mailman and Chuck would feast on Bosh/Boozer too. The Dream Team has better PG's. The Dream Team is far better suited for physical play. Dream Team W for sure, main deciding factor- rebounds, points in the paint. Mailman/Chuck/Admiral/Ewing would be too much.
Edit: In a 7 game series I got the Dream Team in 5 or 6
Lebron has always had trouble finishing at the rim when you have true bigs in the paint. Imagine him trying to take it to the basket with Robinson, Ewing.
Is that true? LeBron is arguably the greatest finisher of all time.
@@abstractdaddy1384 not when there are bigs in the paint like that
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I could be wrong, but I don't think that's true.
@@abstractdaddy1384 It's a mixture. Yeah a good big back court that can hang in the middle out muscles Lebron and almost any finisher. That doesn't mean they shut Lebron down it just means he has more trouble. Lebron has gotten to take advantage of much more open lanes during the bulk of his career so he doesn't have to deal it as much anymore.
I do remember how he used to struggle muscling through Dwight when Howard was in his pre-back injury phase.
@@jamiekelley4076
Well Howard at his peak was one of the greatest rim protectors ever, so I'll give James a pass on that one.
Regardless, I rewatched Thinking Basketball's greatest peaks series and it was stated in the LeBron James episode that he was the greatest finisher ever. That's proof enough for me. (If you haven't seen that series I highly recommend it).