This is a new thread, wasn't sure how to start one. After Djokovic's technical, tactical and physical destruction of Carlos Alcaraz (No #1?) in the French Open semi's even if he didn't win the final against Casper Rudd, his performance further separates him from Roger and Rafa. Granted the Fed had match points against Novak in the Wimbledon final and he was 39 and Djokovic 34 I believe. But come on Carlos was 16 years younger and the No #1 player!
It's not exactly one of the most impressive stats of Djokovic's career, but it fortifies his status as the goat. There are way more impressive records that only Novak has which Fed and Nadal can't even dream of. Like 4 majors won in a row (2015-2016), every masters won, etc. I think personally the most underrated achievement of Djokovic is the fact that he won more matches against Nadal on clay than any other player in tennis history. And the fact that he beat him on his backyard RG clay more than any other player (twice: 2015 and 2021). 2015 Rafa wasn't exactly at his very best but Novak's win against 2021 Rafa is probably the toughest win anyone ever had to achieve in tennis history.
Also the fact that Djoko won 7 Wimbledon titles (1 shy of Federer's 8) and defeated Fed in 3 Wimbledon finals (again, on Federer's backyard Wimbledon lawn) is also crazy. If Djoko wins the wimbledon this year (8th, tying Federer's), he might as well just overtake Federer in grass court masterpiece as well.
The fact that Novak won’t bend over the coercive vaccine rule knowing he would miss many slams and titles speaks volume about his character. That is more GOAT stuff than the other tww combined.
Ironically that's what makes him NOT GOAT. He's amazing at tennis, but a complete Moron at Science. You Maga crowd are too easy to reward stupidity with blind loyalty and Devotion. And you continued to be triggered knowing Nole will never be as loved as Fedal.
Fed fan here - I acknowledge and agree Novak is the GOAT. The fact he achieved all these records while being shut out of many Slams and ATP tournaments due to the draconian covid vaccine rules is even more impressive. I admire Novak for standing up to the tyrants who forced the fake vaccines (yes because they lied about it preventing infection and little adverse side effects - it’s documented and undisputed).
Djokovic is the most popular tennis player in the world by far because he is the most popular in China and India..that's half the planet.. but the west act like only they exist..
I used to find myself using the same excuses for Federer, but from all your videos I can see Djokovic was always the greatest, Thank You Goatkovic for opening my eyes.
@@thesoccergodyes man absolutely for me personally the top 3 greatest players in the history of tennis will always be 1 Federer 2 Sampras 3 Pancho Gonzales Unprecedented of what happens after. You forgot that Federer was also leading 5-1 against Djokovic in aus open 2020 before running out of injury. Federer, Sampras and Pancho Gonzales three of the best players world has ever seen. Few would deny that I am sure.
@@thesoccergod This is an interesting way to think about it, but tennis (and any sport) is about winning more than anything else, and in order to be the best player you need to win the most title
Corona and politics prevented Djokovic from being the undisputed GOAT. If corona and politics had not happened, Djokovic would now have 25 GS, 40+ masters, 450+ weeks, 8 seasons in first place. But even despite all those injustices, Djokovic is again better than Federera and Nadal in all statistics. Djokovic is without a doubt the absolute god of tennis
Djokovic is obviously the GOAT now but he is not better than Federer and Nadal in ALL statistics. For example to name a few, consecutive weeks at number 1, number of French Open / US Open titles, Olympic Games medals, overall career titles, number of grand slam titles defended etc. and there are others. Djokovic would probably have 25 GS if not for Corona (Wimbledon and Australian Open which he missed out). However the impact of Corona meant Djokovic was able to hold onto number 1 ranking without having to defend points for the full ATP calendar year as some tournaments were not held. On the flip side he missed out on more career titles and the possibility of winning grand slam tournaments. However Djokovic playing reduced schedule meant he was able to look after his body and reduce wear and tear as well as injuries from grinding tournaments month in month out, which will ultimately prolong his career.
@nightowlDC Wrong the rankings were frozen so he didn't get any extra weeks as number 1. Also Djokovic has always been able to keep healthy even with a loaded schedule. Because of Covid he couldn't get more slams and masters which inturn would have given him even more point to increase his gap to the others. Keep in mind that from 2020 until like last year Djokovic was dominating everybody. He was in much better position to win slams and masters than he is now with Alcaraz around and not playing as good as he was 3 years ago. Also he missed alot of tournaments that he would've otherwise have used to prepare for slams, breaking his rhythm and worsening his level of play in general.
@@risottonero4501 don't fool yourself. That's the myth billion dollar companies like Pfizer and Moderna are selling, do you know the marker value of Moderna after and before covid, it grew exponentially from 6 billion dollar compnay to 900 Billion dollars. My uncle got jabbed thrice and have developed cardiovascular issues, his doctor has restricted him from running and heavy work. My grandma who recovered without no vaccines is doing just fine.
The two greatest sportsmen in their sport at the moment are both Serbian. It’s recognised all over the world but the west won’t accept it. By the way they are Novak Djokovic and Nikola Jokić. Proof is in the numbers and jealousy is a curse.
@@TheKingOfAmalek I have watched all his games in the last 3 years what are you talking about. His defence has improved but you are influenced by ESPN and Perkins and all the haters. By the way I’m from Australia and the only reason I watch the nba is because of JOKIC
@@TheKingOfAmalek Lol, his defense is decent, not elite but not bad either. He makes regular steals and blocks. But in any case his offensive insane abilities and the ability to improve his teammates make up for defense easily. He's doing things we never saw, setting new records and that's a fact.
Bruh Im a huge football fan too and Messi and Ali were the greatest athletes for me. But what Djo is continuing to achieve continually especially since hitting 30. No other football player can match including Messi or CR7.@@thomaswahrheitssucher4396
Dude I aint alone in this. It is pretty much a recurring theme of discussion among Djok fans and others as well. I understand it is kinda hard to debate on but Djok certainly deserves to be in the convo. @@guy.h421
@mortis08324Novak is as great as Messi or Ronaldo. Tennis is a much more physically and technically demanding sport compared to soccor and to be the GOAT in that means you are one of the greatest athletes ever in history.
Novak doesn't have more fans than Roger and Nadal because he is Serbian, a non NATO country or part of the Western alliance. Therefore he doesn't have much media support, where media is controlled by the Western bloc. And also the Western media always hone in on his on-court antics like arguing with the umpires, having tantrums and standing for his right not to accept the experimental vaccines. And at the same time, the Western media lavishly sings praises of Nadal and Roger.
@@nt9854 ex-GOAT 😉 who lost all 3 Wimbledon Finals vs. the real GOAT who has negative H2H vs the real GOAT lacks 3 Grand Slams lacks 10 Masters 1000 titles lacks 80 weeks at no.1 etc etc etc 😎 23>>>22>>>20 🤫🤫🤫 RIP GOAT DEBATE! Novak RULES. 🙂 cope
@@Tennis_Expert federer fans are just like roger federer right now... still struggling to cope in everything that transpired in the last few years ( Djokovic being the undisputed greatest tennis player of all time)
Best ever, going strong, and not stopping anytime soon. Congratulations Novak for a historical 23rd Grand Slam Win at Roland Garros. Best of luck for the rest of the season.
Without doubt Novak's the greatest player to ever set foot on a tennis court. Let's be honest, even Federer and Nadal know it, though they'd be loathe to ever admit it.
@MKA Your point about the " beauty of the game" and everything and anything but the accomplishments ( titles) is somewhat lame now , afterwards Roger appeared on the Wimbledon court in the glamour green jacket to receive his 2009 Wimbledon trophy, ( GS #15 ) to surpass Sampras who retired with 14 GS.Back then, everybody was talking about Roger being the GOAT ( which he legitimately was at that point), and his fans thought ( and many others) that would remain the case forever. Nobody gave Djokovic any credit for his early GS wins vs.Federer and Nadal, because they were well established. Of course, nobody saw it coming in 2007, when Djokovic had 0 GS,and Federer 12, or in 2010 when Djokovic had 1 ,and Federer SIXTEEN (16) GS titles ( +15), that Djokovic would catch, and then surpass Roger.Roger is very talented, and his game cannot be fully explained, unless you also have the talent to send the ball where you want at will, while Novak' s philosophy and approach to the game can be explained and taught.
@ MKA For you, Federer will always remain the greatest, and that' s fine, but so could not but notice the obvious shift in values, and adjustment in attitudes over the years, the good old double standards, If you know what I mean.The GOAT designation was not invented ( nor intended) for Novak, but, first it was all about the GS, and GS only, when YOU- KNOW- WHO was above everybody else head - and - shoulders , but when Djokovic tied Fed and Rafa with 20 each, then, somehow, zGS titles were NOT the most important thing.The funniest thing is, Rafa never had more GS titles than Roger until he tied him @ 20 GS each, and then Rafa goes right after the match in front of the press and says : " Now, I am one of the two strongest of all time" Why Nadal fans started calling Rafa the GOAT after 2010 , although Nadal had ( then) 7 GS titles less than Roger is still hardware to understand. Look, it does not matter what you or I think ,write or say, in 30-40 yrs. people who are not born here will look at the numbers, without bias born out of emotions, and they will know show the best players was.It does not bother me at all when you, and FEDAL fans like you try to imply that Federer was an artist, the Swiss Maestro, the this, the that, and Djokovic is a robot, a tool, a hack, a poor peasants from a poor country who does not belong not at the same table with the other two, not in the same room, but not even in the halway.Djokovic accomplished more than what I, his parents, him, or anybody else expected. The best part is, Novak is not done yet.
@@djordjelezajic8435 Bravo. Well said. Famous hypocrisy of westerners. The moment rules and numbers do not work in their favor they change rules and narrative- what matters and what not...
-> Grand Slams - Most Grand Slams (22) - Non-Calendar Year GS (4 Consecutive GS) -> ATP Finals - Most ATP Finals (6) - 4 consecutive ATP Finals -> Masters - Most Masters (38) - 2 Career Golden Masters - Most Masters in a season (6) -> Big Titles - Most Big Titles (66) - 2 Big Titles Sweep - Held 4 GS + ATP Finals simultaneously - Most Big Titles in a season (10) -> Ranking - Most Year-end #1 (7) - Most Weeks #1 (387) - Highest ATP points ever accumulated (16,950) -> Wins - Highest career win percentage - 80%+ win percentage on each surface (hard, clay, grass) - Most wins against top 5 - Most wins against top 10 - 80+ wins at each GS (Federer: RG (73 wins) - Nadal: AO (77 wins), USO (67 wins), Wimbledon (58 wins)) - Positive H2H against the Big3 - Most wins against the Big3 at their favorite GS (Djokovic has beaten Nadal 2 times at RG. Nadal has never beaten Djokovic at AO; Djokovic has beaten Federer 3 times at Wimbledon. Federer has beaten Djokovic at AO once)
Most hard court majors 13 to fed 11 Grass court majors 7 to 8 1 more Wimby and he is the best hard court and grass court player ever. Owns tiebreaker vs Fed. (3-0 in Wimby finals and 3-1 overall vs Fed at Wimby)
Nadal was the guy that made me a men's tennis fan. He's my favorite player of all time. But yeh I agree, Djokovic is the best player I've ever watched play the game.
Even Federer is better than Nadal. The only reason Nadal leads Federer head to head is because of all their matches on clay, so it distorts the h2h in Nadal's favour, whereas Federer actually leads Nadal h2h on hard and grass. And Nadal hasn't even beaten Djokovic on a hard court in TEN years! 1.Djokovic 2.Federer 3.Nadal
You don't understand 😂people argue that Federer is the greatest of all time, this is not between Nadal and Djokovic. And btw... Sorry, both Djokovic and Nadal are better than Federer.
Nah. With more matches on hard or grass the H2H would have been more tie, but with Nadal still ahead. In fact, the young Rafa was already able to beat peak Roger on hard courts. When Nadal lost his ability to defend the imposible and Roger change the racket the situation got better for Federer, but there were just the last years of their rivalry.
Novak is definitely the GREATEST OF ALL TIME ....let's hope Novak wins few more slams and slap the people who won't accept the reality that Novak is GREATEST OF ALL TIME
I would say the "number of people who like them" argument is on Novak's side too, it's just that we live in a Western-centric world so you would think that everyone likes Roger or Rafa, but I think in the other three quarters of the world population, Novak has a big advantage.
He won't be loved and adored like the 2 queers I.e. Rafa and federer because the news hates djokovic for some reason. Probably because djokovic isn't a sellout who only cares about money and pushing the mainstream agenda.
You deserve a like just for this caption at 2:18. Not only was Djokovic denied the opportunity to defend his 2022 AO championship, but Nadal swooped in like a hyena to take advantage of the situation ….all the while kicking sand in Novak’s face while he was down. Good job. Nadal showed the world how great he was by successfully avoiding Novak on hard court again.
Nadal was able to participate, Djoko wasn´t, simple as that. There is no logic reason to blame Nadal about his participation, or the covid decision (btw I´m on Djoko´s side) which is the organization´s fault. Your point can be compared with all those competitions where Nadal was injured and Djoko took advantage of that situation.
@@sergiocastrillo6577 Nonsense. First of all, to be the champion, you must beat the champion. And the 2021 AO champion was healthy and ready to go. The only thing that prevented Novak from playing the 2022 AO were politicians from Australia who enacted discriminatory policies. Politics that Nadal fully supports, by the way. So when you say that you side with Novak Djokovic, but then turn around and complain when I give Nadal an asterisks, that tells me your support is worthless. Injuries don’t discriminate, politicians do.
No-vax is not only the greatest tennis player of all time he's simply the greatest sportsman of all time. He is an ambassador for freedom standing up to tyranny without wavering while the rest cowered like cowards. In this world it's not people but individuals that count. Even if you are in a minority of one. The truth is still the truth. Mahatma Gandhi.
@@sergiocastrillo6577 Mate Nadal hasn't beaten Novak away from clay since 2013, on a hard court he hasn't even won 1 set since 2013, he still hasn't completed all the masters titles while Novak has almost won them all 3 times, to say nothing of never winning the Tour Finals, he got to the Tour Final just twice and was beaten by Fed and Novak.
There is also h2h specific argument for Nadal vs. both, since he leads by grand slam victories against both and leads both, but considering that Nadal's entire CV is clay skewed, given how dominant he was on the surface it shouldn't be huge revelation! Lol He played Novak 10 freaking times on the courts, which he dominated since 2005 and lost only four times ever since, that is parisian red clay off course, the Roland Garros, which he has won 14 times throughout that stretch from 2005 till 2024, meaning 14 titles out of 19 (one of them being when he was forced to withdraw in 2016 due to back problems...), so 4 real losses in 19 editions, in 10 of which he played Novak on the way! And bull fans have actually the nerve to throw slam specific arguments into Nolefam faces! Imagine the audacity! Ef there is even tiny chance their h2h were more evenly spread accross more different slams instead of them meeting so damn many times at RG alone does anyone really think here Nadal would still be ahead in h2h?! Really?!…
Okay let's even take the US Open (Bull fans 2nd favorite argument after flexing with that 11-7 advantage lol), okay so Nadal leads on USO hard marginally 2-1 (all in finals btw!), the last victory over Novak came in 2013 and they haven't played or met there ever since, does anyone here really believe that if they played at least couple more times Novak wouldn't have beat him in both of those occasions, considering Nadal wasn't abke to even take set off Djokovic on hard courts ever since then?! No my dear bull fans, if that were to somehow happen their h2h at the USO by now would be - 3-2 in favour of Djokovic and the whole "but the USO..." argument would immediately fold like a card house! Lmao But because Nadal was running scared from Djokovic on both hard and grass courts (with the exception of 2018 semis at the Wimbledon and AO final in 2019) he managed to preserve his h2h advantage at slams by only focusing on meeting him at RG tournament! All things considered if i were you i wouldn't dare bringing those arguments up!…
Of course, Nole is the greatest without a doubt. The only people that don't accept this real facts are the Rogers and Nadal fans, but at this time who cares what they say. Numbers and statistics speak for themselves.
Couldn't agree more. I remember becoming a big fan of Djokovic when he first came on the scene, and it's so obvious that people who want to argue that either Federer or Nadal deserve the greatest acclaim in the sport, at this point, are doing so for reasons that have nothing to do with Tennis. The "debate" is nothing but a popularity contest, and one coloured by Western political anti-Eastern European/Slavic/Russian/Serbian sentiments and prejudices in Western sports media and Western media in general. I remember how Djokovic was always treated at the US Open, basically like a villain by the crowd a lot of the time, again, for reasons having zero to do with the sport itself, or with his actual conduct and behavior, which has always been excellent. Contrast that with Serena Williams, who has been an openly awful person on-court tons of times, but always is treated like a perfect goddess by the American media and fans. Federer and Nadal are of course also truly great players, true legends, but their fans are delusional to think that "popularity" should have anything to do with the conversation about who the GOAT truly is. And anyone who is a pure fan of the sport itself ought to be a big fan of Djokovic, because unlike Federer or Nadal, he has no weaknesses, no bad surface, no side that is worse than the other... he is the true complete best player of all time, and that ought to be obvious to anyone who loves the sport itself, and doesn't merely happen to like Federer or Nadal for "fandom" type reasons... which let's be honest, a lot of those numbers of their fans are.
Besides the unreachable 23 world titles, Novak has the complete 'package'. He stood firm while tolerating scorn, derision and abuse,concerning PERSONAL health decisions.His patriotic, Christian and family values are the TRUE embodiment of actual European ideals, not the preudo-values espoused by the captured and corrupt European leaders. A REAL LEADER from a country that has also been abused by the West.From Greece with love.
Nadal fans will talk about Roland Garos and Olimpic medal, Rogers will talk about most tournaments.. (250 points.. whatever) And Novak is simply from Serbia! If he was under UK or USA flag.. he would be the greatest of all time *without* *any* *question* *AND* *WIHT* *ALL* *PRIVILEGES* But Novak is from Serbia. World will understand Serbia and Searbian people (maybe) someday..They are simply so sinful and so unaware of what they are doing. People do not deal with real life values and this world and this world is slowly but surely moving towards certain paths of destruction. Let's enjoy all the magic of Novak Djokovic, while the magic still lasts... And lets pray that the world has more people PS *human* *people* ,and then sportsmen like Novak. Thank you for the video Sir As always precise🤝🏼🎯
There are actually 3 more important things other than the ones you mentioned: winning all 14 Big titles, number of real career Grand Slams and if exists, the Grand Slam, whether a Calendar Grand Slam or Non-Calendar Grand Slam. Of course, these are only in additional to the 5 records you mentioned.
Its 24 Slams now, more Weeks #1 and soon to be 8 Year-End #1 and counting for Djokovic. Don't forget, he's the only player to win each Grand Slam 3 times.
Thanks for compiling the numbers. I always liked Djokovic and saw him as the underdog earlier in his career, but the numbers don't lie and I'm glad he got the respect and the wins he deserved! Amazing player
People dont want a serbian man to be the greatest player of all time and thats why they are saying Nadal and Federer are greater players than Novak. But as you said, all the numbers are with Novak and we should consider the fact that he has positive h2h again both Nadal and Federer. Therefore Djokovic is the GOAT!
Novak is also the only one who's been denied participation in both Australian Open and US Open, thus favouring his opponent(s). No question he is the GOAT. Also, those who say he's not so popular than the other two refer mainly to America and arguably Western Europe. The other 7 billion earthlings are very much happy with the best player of all times coming from a small country and being an authentic human being, not compliant with the controlling impositions of today's powers.
Nah djokovic is à drama queen and he loves playing that victim rôle and his fans love picturing him as the one who get fought by the world and the world is against him and bla bla bla same as ronaldo while the only truth is messi and Nadal are the goats
Honestly, this was not that surprising. Djokovic was always the most talented of the three. Once he got his mental game to where it needed to be, it was inevitable that he would become better than the other two. It was just how much of a mark would he make historically, was the question mark. But basically, it was just if all three were to reach their full potential, Djokovic would come out on top. And that's all that happened. This should not be a surprise to anyone.
I think the easiest way to describe why Djokovic is the GOAT ( without analyzing and comparing each title vs.the competitors) is to mention that Djokovic had more success than Federer and Nadal on 2/3 surfaces ( ND won more GS titles than RN on HC+GRASS ,and more GS titles than RF on HC+CLAY).Then, the second argument in Novak' s favor is the fact that he accomplished more than 50% of what FEDAL accomplished together when you compare GS+WTF+ATP1000+WEEKS@#1+H2H+TOP10WINS+YE#1+PRIZE$.Then, you compare each one to the other and look at what they did not do ( accomplish).Rafa never won WTF,Miami, Paris,Shanghai , never defended a grass title, never beat Novak in 5 main tournaments ( AO+MIA+CIN+PAR+CHINA OPEN).Federer never won MC/Rome, never beat Nadal in USO/RG.
You are right numbers don't lie. To be goat Goatovic has H2H against Fedal. He got the holy grail of grand slams. And the golden master twice. It means he is a complete player on all surface. Forget all the x and the o. He is the emperor of tennis.❤💯👍👽
@@arncj18 I know he is injured. He was 6th when ATP took 10,000 points away from him. He will be back or retire and he stands alone at 428 weeks as # 1 . Goatovic is unrivaled And unmatched at 24 slams. 🎾🏆👽
The opinion of a few Federer and Nadal fans is not the same as the opinion of unbiased tennis fans (the opinions that matter). According to unbiased tennis fans, Novak is the GOAT (and btw I'm saying this as a Fed fan).
@@thomaswahrheitssucher4396 so you looked it up 😁 . I'm not obliged to answer your question, but what I meant with "way beyond" is his actions besides the tennis court, his fight for human rights, freedom and bodily integrity, his stance on the whole covid and vaccine scam. That's where I started to appreciate him a lot because what he did, what he stood for required a firm, well grown backbone and very big balls.
Novak has had to achieve his record by playing against both Federer and Nadal at their peak and he has consistently beat them both throughout his career, he has won on all surfaces, and if it wasn't for the Covid mandates he could well have more slams to his name. He is indeed the G.O.A.T.
@@richardplantan4375 I think Nadal's winning percentage is around 80% so if someone is beating him over 50% of the time he plays him I would say that is pretty good.
@@richardplantan4375 when you realize half of those contests came on clay it makes sense, but to beat nadal on his favorite surface the same amount of times he has beaten you on your favorite (nadal has one less on hardcourts hence the lead) speaks volumes, as nobody is even close to beating nadal 8 times on clay 2 of them being in roland garros where the man lost 3 times since 2005. The stats absolutely lie in their h2h since novak hasnt lost even once to nadal outside clay since 2013 US open final while all of his clay wins came after 2013. What it means is when both were at their prime not only was novak more dominant on any other surface but clay, he also was the only person in existence that could beat nadal on clay (albeit rarely)
FOR THE MAIN TOPIC: The answer why the GOAT race is so confusing is 1:08. People misunderstood this as a POPULARITY contest. They are living indenial in the pathetic '3 goats' debate. FOR THE MUSIC: Glad you bring back Patrick Patrikios' tracks. Hope for more video to come, Goatkovic! IDEMO!
I enjoyed watching all three players, each for different reasons. There is no denying that these are the three best tennis players ever. No doubt Djokovic is the GOAT.
Great video once again. Looking forward to the next one about GS/Masters titles argument. Also it would be great if you to expand on the point you made in your previous video on why you have RF as your no.2 in GOAT race and RN as no.3... Cheers!
Former Nadal supporter. Novak convert from January 2020. He’s sacrificed titles and slams while close to his best form, been booted from the U.S. and Australia, and still holds the record. The courts are slower and suit baseliners of today. I truly pray they quicken the courts to rattle the game. There’s nothing quite like watching matches at the highest level in 2023.
@Goatkovic can you make an additional video in this series about who is the 2nd greatest and why? I know your view and agree, but I would like to hear your professional explanation.
If u add in the match fixing in favour of Nadal and Federer over Djokovic and Murray it is another shamefull thing to add. Djokovic always playing at worst times in the hottest periods of the day, has the crowd against him, the media narratives, x3 x4 times more doping tests compared to the other 2. Nadal and Federer are baked by everyone, the crowd, the media, the tournament organizers, you can even argue the referees. They are children of the system and the system has their back and that is clear for they defended that same system in detriment to the players while Djokovic is doing the opposite and is on the side of the players despite most of them not being vocal and helping him during Australian covid scandal. Better personality and better human overall are also qualities that are considered in goat debates.
Couple of points: 1. The gap between Novak and the other two is going to grow in most categories. Certainly in the majors won (Novak should hit 25) and weeks at #1 (Novak is already at 388 and should each 400+ shortly). If Novak wins Wimbledon, Novak will likely also finished the year at #1 for the 8th time. 2. Novak has a winning record against Roger (27-23) and Rafa (30-29), as well as more wins vs top 10 players (245) than Roger (223) or Rafa (188), and a better winning record against top 10 players (69%) than Roger and Rafa (both of which have a 65% record).
all the numbers ar allready there, all over the world, region by region, country by country. Death and long covid rate per age cohort and vaccination coverage rate. Of course everybody is allowed to believe in conspiracy theories, ignoring official statistics.
I know this was made before the recent French Open finals win, which of course only deepens the argument. Now, with Novak being the only person to win all 4 grand slams 3 times, it's not even a debate anymore. I say this as a huge Nadal fan. I am actually most of all, a tennis fan. So all three of them are/were legends of the sport who pushed each other to insane heights. I got to meet Djokovic at Indian Wells about 7 years ago and he was super friendly and accommodated my telling him a joke by laughing when my delivery was terrible. This was back when the Djoker was courting folks to tell him jokes.
Despite the thorough and solid argumentation, there will always be a certain amount of people that will persist to live in their own bubble and reality( denial?deficiencies?emotional thinking?).. Goatkovic thanks for yor contribution to supporting the truth!
Hey, just came here after this year's RG final, cant wait to hear what you have to say in new video. No other way asking you except drop a comment hope you can see it!!
Firstly I'm a Federer fan. The media have always it seems to promote Fedal as the best and Novak not so. Add into this Novak recent stance on the events of 2020 the media are even less likely to fully endorse Novak as the GOAT. I've followed tennis since the 1975 Wimbledon final where my all time favourite Jimmy Connors was beaten by Arthur Ashe. With the arrival of the Fed he for me became the GOAT. But even as a Fed fan Novak is the GOAT and not just for his on court achievements. Great presentations which the MSM would hate to see.
Another goat argument was he broke all these titles playing against the second and 3rd best tennis players ever, even if someone breaks some records of his in the future no one will have the competition Novak had over his career, truly separated himself as the goat by a mile
I think that you forgot one stat. Nole and Nadal played 59 times. Nole leads 30/29. As for Roger, nole leads 27-23. Also, Nadal has negative stats with Davydenko... Finally, Nole has the best stats 83.44%, 1059 won 210 lost!!! No doubt for me...
Even with sampras it wasn't that simple. Sampras' failure to win the french open raised serious questions about his goat status as even federer when his chance came took RG as did Novak. Agassi's four slams on four surfaces (+4 more) +olympic gold +year end tournament+#1 puts him ahead of sampras. Novak is now almost certainly the greatest ever
Nole is clearly the best ever , a complete athlete and consistency over time which will be hard to beat in the future but why has Nadal got 21 slams? It’s 22
Why? Most probably because Novak was unfairly and disgracefully deported from Australia two years ago, thus allowing Nadal to take full advantage of the situation to win a Grand Slam at Melbourne Park. It's almost impossible for any intelligent and fair-minded tennis fan to genuinely believe that Nadal would have won that title had Novak not been denied the right to play, and that's why Nadal will always carry an asterisk next to his name. Just as bad, Nadal had absolutely nothing positive, supportive or encouraging to say about his rival, despite it being a time of great personal crisis in Novak's life. On the contrary, Nadal appeared quite unsympathetic, if not cold and distant, and that's something that he should feel forever embarrassed about. Had the situation been reversed, I've no doubt that Novak would have spoken out in support of Nadal, but that's because they're very different human beings, let alone tennis players.
@@Turrican60 I know all that he still has 22 slams tho and he’s still second best ! Nole would probably have several more due to a cancelled wimbledon , an unfair disqualification at us open and deported from Australia but Nadal still has 22 👍
How is he consistent when he only won 1 slam in 2012, 2013, 2014 then disappearing in 2017. 2019's only wimbledon win was debatable too. His slam wins are all scattered around besides AO. The statistics are too general to justify. Can he beat Roger's streak 2004 - 2007 or Rafa insane clay wins? He's not the GOAT bro. In my view, Novak only played well in 2011.
@@Turrican60 Your argument is so one-sided. Nadal and Roger: best friends, able to help each other's foundation. Novak made a statement saying that Rival cant be close friends. Who isnt positive now? Im sorry, he deserved that deport and default in US open.
@@earl8295 probably not the opinion shared by the majority and the facts don’t lie however much you convince yourself otherwise because you don’t like the player .
You forgot one number : Djokovic leads in his H2H against the other two !
Great point!
This is a new thread, wasn't sure how to start one. After Djokovic's technical, tactical and physical destruction of Carlos Alcaraz (No #1?) in the French Open semi's even if he didn't win the final against Casper Rudd, his performance further separates him from Roger and Rafa. Granted the Fed had match points against Novak in the Wimbledon final and he was 39 and Djokovic 34 I believe. But come on Carlos was 16 years younger and the No #1 player!
It's not exactly one of the most impressive stats of Djokovic's career, but it fortifies his status as the goat. There are way more impressive records that only Novak has which Fed and Nadal can't even dream of. Like 4 majors won in a row (2015-2016), every masters won, etc.
I think personally the most underrated achievement of Djokovic is the fact that he won more matches against Nadal on clay than any other player in tennis history. And the fact that he beat him on his backyard RG clay more than any other player (twice: 2015 and 2021). 2015 Rafa wasn't exactly at his very best but Novak's win against 2021 Rafa is probably the toughest win anyone ever had to achieve in tennis history.
Also the fact that Djoko won 7 Wimbledon titles (1 shy of Federer's 8) and defeated Fed in 3 Wimbledon finals (again, on Federer's backyard Wimbledon lawn) is also crazy. If Djoko wins the wimbledon this year (8th, tying Federer's), he might as well just overtake Federer in grass court masterpiece as well.
Also most wins vs top 5 and top 10 players
Now Olympics gold medal
The fact that Novak won’t bend over the coercive vaccine rule knowing he would miss many slams and titles speaks volume about his character. That is more GOAT stuff than the other tww combined.
Ironically that's what makes him NOT GOAT. He's amazing at tennis, but a complete Moron at Science. You Maga crowd are too easy to reward stupidity with blind loyalty and Devotion. And you continued to be triggered knowing Nole will never be as loved as Fedal.
Fed fan here - I acknowledge and agree Novak is the GOAT. The fact he achieved all these records while being shut out of many Slams and ATP tournaments due to the draconian covid vaccine rules is even more impressive. I admire Novak for standing up to the tyrants who forced the fake vaccines (yes because they lied about it preventing infection and little adverse side effects - it’s documented and undisputed).
Yep he should put it as a crown.. he is realy true king.. someone who care for people, not rule
@@drkvenger lol maga sheep
@@terrymunoztrujillo483 🤡
Djokovic is the most popular tennis player in the world by far because he is the most popular in China and India..that's half the planet.. but the west act like only they exist..
Nole is most popular in entire Non-Western World.
I used to find myself using the same excuses for Federer, but from all your videos I can see Djokovic was always the greatest, Thank You Goatkovic for opening my eyes.
@@thesoccergod nobody reading that shit bro make it short
So easily Gullible and convinced, make up your own mind, not what propaganda wants u to think
@@thesoccergodyes man absolutely for me personally the top 3 greatest players in the history of tennis will always be
1 Federer
2 Sampras
3 Pancho Gonzales
Unprecedented of what happens after. You forgot that Federer was also leading 5-1 against Djokovic in aus open 2020 before running out of injury. Federer, Sampras and Pancho Gonzales three of the best players world has ever seen. Few would deny that I am sure.
@@thesoccergod This is an interesting way to think about it, but tennis (and any sport) is about winning more than anything else, and in order to be the best player you need to win the most title
@@manbat4327 Everyone's goal is winning (that's the goal of any sport), so therefore the greatest winner is also the greatest player
Corona and politics prevented Djokovic from being the undisputed GOAT. If corona and politics had not happened, Djokovic would now have 25 GS, 40+ masters, 450+ weeks, 8 seasons in first place. But even despite all those injustices, Djokovic is again better than Federera and Nadal in all statistics. Djokovic is without a doubt the absolute god of tennis
After slamming down Carlos today, the dispute has to be over for good.
He is the undisputed GOAT, anyone not thinking that is a delusional fam
Djokovic is obviously the GOAT now but he is not better than Federer and Nadal in ALL statistics. For example to name a few, consecutive weeks at number 1, number of French Open / US Open titles, Olympic Games medals, overall career titles, number of grand slam titles defended etc. and there are others.
Djokovic would probably have 25 GS if not for Corona (Wimbledon and Australian Open which he missed out). However the impact of Corona meant Djokovic was able to hold onto number 1 ranking without having to defend points for the full ATP calendar year as some tournaments were not held. On the flip side he missed out on more career titles and the possibility of winning grand slam tournaments. However Djokovic playing reduced schedule meant he was able to look after his body and reduce wear and tear as well as injuries from grinding tournaments month in month out, which will ultimately prolong his career.
@nightowlDC Wrong the rankings were frozen so he didn't get any extra weeks as number 1. Also Djokovic has always been able to keep healthy even with a loaded schedule. Because of Covid he couldn't get more slams and masters which inturn would have given him even more point to increase his gap to the others. Keep in mind that from 2020 until like last year Djokovic was dominating everybody. He was in much better position to win slams and masters than he is now with Alcaraz around and not playing as good as he was 3 years ago. Also he missed alot of tournaments that he would've otherwise have used to prepare for slams, breaking his rhythm and worsening his level of play in general.
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Djokovic will always be a hero to the rest of the world who were against the forced vaccines. He has given us all a voice.
novak's the goat but i'm sorry the vaccines managed to saved many many lives
@@risottonero4501 lol.
in which universe?
@@DeBeschte covid miraculously got cured and people stopped dying after the vaccines were made
I wonder why
@@risottonero4501 but how many lives did it take and how many poor folk are now dealing with the adverse effects ??!!
@@risottonero4501 don't fool yourself. That's the myth billion dollar companies like Pfizer and Moderna are selling, do you know the marker value of Moderna after and before covid, it grew exponentially from 6 billion dollar compnay to 900 Billion dollars. My uncle got jabbed thrice and have developed cardiovascular issues, his doctor has restricted him from running and heavy work. My grandma who recovered without no vaccines is doing just fine.
The two greatest sportsmen in their sport at the moment are both Serbian. It’s recognised all over the world but the west won’t accept it. By the way they are Novak Djokovic and Nikola Jokić. Proof is in the numbers and jealousy is a curse.
Djokovic yes, Jokic no. If you actually watch his game, you will realise just how terrible he truly is on defence.
@@TheKingOfAmalek
I have watched all his games in the last 3 years what are you talking about. His defence has improved but you are influenced by ESPN and Perkins and all the haters. By the way I’m from Australia and the only reason I watch the nba is because of JOKIC
@@TheKingOfAmalek Lol, his defense is decent, not elite but not bad either. He makes regular steals and blocks. But in any case his offensive insane abilities and the ability to improve his teammates make up for defense easily. He's doing things we never saw, setting new records and that's a fact.
@@GatsuKS and Embid is better 😂😂😂
@@jugoslavnamljidjiu9021 Yes, in getting free throws from the referees, I'll give him that.
Now that he's got 24 titles, the haters HAVE to admit the djoker is the undisputed goat. Possibly the greatest ever athlete in any sport.
In any sports? Get real. Soccer beats it by far. Just compare how many have ever played each sport.
Bruh Im a huge football fan too and Messi and Ali were the greatest athletes for me. But what Djo is continuing to achieve continually especially since hitting 30. No other football player can match including Messi or CR7.@@thomaswahrheitssucher4396
Slow down mate. In tennis no question, but in any sports? You crossed the line
Dude I aint alone in this. It is pretty much a recurring theme of discussion among Djok fans and others as well. I understand it is kinda hard to debate on but Djok certainly deserves to be in the convo. @@guy.h421
@mortis08324Novak is as great as Messi or Ronaldo. Tennis is a much more physically and technically demanding sport compared to soccor and to be the GOAT in that means you are one of the greatest athletes ever in history.
Djokovic has now won the Olympic Gold. There, it's over finally 😂🎉
also have to update the number of masters, weeks at #1, & slams - Any "debate" is done, buried in concrete, and sealed over! LOL
#24 in the bag. Debate is definitely over now and forever.
Novak doesn't have more fans than Roger and Nadal because he is Serbian, a non NATO country or part of the Western alliance. Therefore he doesn't have much media support, where media is controlled by the Western bloc. And also the Western media always hone in on his on-court antics like arguing with the umpires, having tantrums and standing for his right not to accept the experimental vaccines. And at the same time, the Western media lavishly sings praises of Nadal and Roger.
Congratulations to The GOAT for Major #23 triple career Srand Slam and return to #1 in ATP rankings.
🎉🎉🎉
@@nt9854 ex-GOAT 😉
who lost all 3 Wimbledon Finals vs. the real GOAT
who has negative H2H vs the real GOAT
lacks 3 Grand Slams
lacks 10 Masters 1000 titles
lacks 80 weeks at no.1
etc etc etc 😎
23>>>22>>>20 🤫🤫🤫
RIP GOAT DEBATE! Novak RULES. 🙂
cope
@@nt9854 2001-2007 weak-era doesn’t count 🤣 Toil harder 🤡
23>20 🤫🤫🤫
@@nt9854 😢😂😂😂😂😂
@@Tennis_Expert federer fans are just like roger federer right now... still struggling to cope in everything that transpired in the last few years ( Djokovic being the undisputed greatest tennis player of all time)
Best ever, going strong, and not stopping anytime soon. Congratulations Novak for a historical 23rd Grand Slam Win at Roland Garros. Best of luck for the rest of the season.
#24 and counting...
Without doubt Novak's the greatest player to ever set foot on a tennis court. Let's be honest, even Federer and Nadal know it, though they'd be loathe to ever admit it.
You mean their fans would hate to admit it; the big 3 all have respect for each other
@MKA Your point about the " beauty of the game" and everything and anything but the accomplishments ( titles) is somewhat lame now , afterwards Roger appeared on the Wimbledon court in the glamour green jacket to receive his 2009 Wimbledon trophy, ( GS #15 ) to surpass Sampras who retired with 14 GS.Back then, everybody was talking about Roger being the GOAT ( which he legitimately was at that point), and his fans thought ( and many others) that would remain the case forever. Nobody gave Djokovic any credit for his early GS wins vs.Federer and Nadal, because they were well established. Of course, nobody saw it coming in 2007, when Djokovic had 0 GS,and Federer 12, or in 2010 when Djokovic had 1 ,and Federer SIXTEEN (16) GS titles ( +15), that Djokovic would catch, and then surpass Roger.Roger is very talented, and his game cannot be fully explained, unless you also have the talent to send the ball where you want at will, while Novak' s philosophy and approach to the game can be explained and taught.
@ MKA For you, Federer will always remain the greatest, and that' s fine, but so could not but notice the obvious shift in values, and adjustment in attitudes over the years, the good old double standards, If you know what I mean.The GOAT designation was not invented ( nor intended) for Novak, but, first it was all about the GS, and GS only, when YOU- KNOW- WHO was above everybody else head - and - shoulders , but when Djokovic tied Fed and Rafa with 20 each, then, somehow, zGS titles were NOT the most important thing.The funniest thing is, Rafa never had more GS titles than Roger until he tied him @ 20 GS each, and then Rafa goes right after the match in front of the press and says : " Now, I am one of the two strongest of all time" Why Nadal fans started calling Rafa the GOAT after 2010 , although Nadal had ( then) 7 GS titles less than Roger is still hardware to understand. Look, it does not matter what you or I think ,write or say, in 30-40 yrs. people who are not born here will look at the numbers, without bias born out of emotions, and they will know show the best players was.It does not bother me at all when you, and FEDAL fans like you try to imply that Federer was an artist, the Swiss Maestro, the this, the that, and Djokovic is a robot, a tool, a hack, a poor peasants from a poor country who does not belong not at the same table with the other two, not in the same room, but not even in the halway.Djokovic accomplished more than what I, his parents, him, or anybody else expected. The best part is, Novak is not done yet.
This man is the Goat of Sport, not just tennis.. He exceeds every other athlete in our time.!!!!
The great underdog to start with becomes immortal
@@djordjelezajic8435 Bravo. Well said. Famous hypocrisy of westerners.
The moment rules and numbers do not work in their favor they change rules and narrative- what matters and what not...
Novak is the best ever
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-> Grand Slams
- Most Grand Slams (22)
- Non-Calendar Year GS (4 Consecutive GS)
-> ATP Finals
- Most ATP Finals (6)
- 4 consecutive ATP Finals
-> Masters
- Most Masters (38)
- 2 Career Golden Masters
- Most Masters in a season (6)
-> Big Titles
- Most Big Titles (66)
- 2 Big Titles Sweep
- Held 4 GS + ATP Finals simultaneously
- Most Big Titles in a season (10)
-> Ranking
- Most Year-end #1 (7)
- Most Weeks #1 (387)
- Highest ATP points ever accumulated (16,950)
-> Wins
- Highest career win percentage
- 80%+ win percentage on each surface (hard, clay, grass)
- Most wins against top 5
- Most wins against top 10
- 80+ wins at each GS (Federer: RG (73 wins) - Nadal: AO (77 wins), USO (67 wins), Wimbledon (58 wins))
- Positive H2H against the Big3
- Most wins against the Big3 at their favorite GS (Djokovic has beaten Nadal 2 times at RG. Nadal has never beaten Djokovic at AO; Djokovic has beaten Federer 3 times at Wimbledon. Federer has beaten Djokovic at AO once)
YES. YES. YES.
Most hard court majors 13 to fed 11
Grass court majors 7 to 8
1 more Wimby and he is the best hard court and grass court player ever. Owns tiebreaker vs Fed. (3-0 in Wimby finals and 3-1 overall vs Fed at Wimby)
Hes now 79.9 on clay
@@vincenzofranchelli2201 he was 80%
@@skuzmanovic3227 ik. Might be again soon
Nadal fan right here, but I also like Djokovic, and I think it's undeniable that he's the greatest tennis player ever.
Easy when you aren't poisoned by big pharma
Nadal was the guy that made me a men's tennis fan. He's my favorite player of all time. But yeh I agree, Djokovic is the best player I've ever watched play the game.
@@izzydadopest true , ima nadal fan , i like his style of playing but at the end of the day , djokovic is better
Even Federer is better than Nadal. The only reason Nadal leads Federer head to head is because of all their matches on clay, so it distorts the h2h in Nadal's favour, whereas Federer actually leads Nadal h2h on hard and grass. And Nadal hasn't even beaten Djokovic on a hard court in TEN years!
1.Djokovic
2.Federer
3.Nadal
So clay doesn’t count Djokovic can be the goat but nadal is atleast second
You don't understand 😂people argue that Federer is the greatest of all time, this is not between Nadal and Djokovic. And btw... Sorry, both Djokovic and Nadal are better than Federer.
Nadal is still better than Federer.
Nah. With more matches on hard or grass the H2H would have been more tie, but with Nadal still ahead. In fact, the young Rafa was already able to beat peak Roger on hard courts. When Nadal lost his ability to defend the imposible and Roger change the racket the situation got better for Federer, but there were just the last years of their rivalry.
@@RainMan_YT Imagine if your mother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle.
Novak is definitely the GREATEST OF ALL TIME ....let's hope Novak wins few more slams and slap the people who won't accept the reality that Novak is GREATEST OF ALL TIME
They started a menthal gymnastic with best player vs best winner... crazy
now he has 23 slams🐐
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@@nosequeponergaming24
Now it's 24
I would say the "number of people who like them" argument is on Novak's side too, it's just that we live in a Western-centric world so you would think that everyone likes Roger or Rafa, but I think in the other three quarters of the world population, Novak has a big advantage.
He won't be loved and adored like the 2 queers I.e. Rafa and federer because the news hates djokovic for some reason. Probably because djokovic isn't a sellout who only cares about money and pushing the mainstream agenda.
It's definitely because Novak is independent and does not push the mainstream agenda. That is why the bought and paid for news people hate Djokovic.
Maybe just maybe he’s not a good person and a cheater. A constant cheater and a very controversial player
@@merpetihommohite nadal you're on about?
Djokovic is the clear goat nasal and federer love coc up there arse
You deserve a like just for this caption at 2:18. Not only was Djokovic denied the opportunity to defend his 2022 AO championship, but Nadal swooped in like a hyena to take advantage of the situation ….all the while kicking sand in Novak’s face while he was down. Good job. Nadal showed the world how great he was by successfully avoiding Novak on hard court again.
Nadal was able to participate, Djoko wasn´t, simple as that. There is no logic reason to blame Nadal about his participation, or the covid decision (btw I´m on Djoko´s side) which is the organization´s fault. Your point can be compared with all those competitions where Nadal was injured and Djoko took advantage of that situation.
@@sergiocastrillo6577 Nonsense. First of all, to be the champion, you must beat the champion. And the 2021 AO champion was healthy and ready to go. The only thing that prevented Novak from playing the 2022 AO were politicians from Australia who enacted discriminatory policies. Politics that Nadal fully supports, by the way. So when you say that you side with Novak Djokovic, but then turn around and complain when I give Nadal an asterisks, that tells me your support is worthless. Injuries don’t discriminate, politicians do.
No-vax is not only the greatest tennis player of all time he's simply the greatest sportsman of all time. He is an ambassador for freedom standing up to tyranny without wavering while the rest cowered like cowards. In this world it's not people but individuals that count.
Even if you are in a minority of one. The truth is still the truth.
Mahatma Gandhi.
@@sergiocastrillo6577 Mate Nadal hasn't beaten Novak away from clay since 2013, on a hard court he hasn't even won 1 set since 2013, he still hasn't completed all the masters titles while Novak has almost won them all 3 times, to say nothing of never winning the Tour Finals, he got to the Tour Final just twice and was beaten by Fed and Novak.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this
i missed you brother :D The Goat is back!!!!
Man, it took him forever to release one.
I know that there are tons of interesting analysis can be done and I'm excited to see him release those.
Најјаче име брате! 😂
@@borisstankovic2830 Tako je brate! :D
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@@letrantrung1Why is Nadal 21* grand slams ?
Guess the olympic argument falls in water now
There is also h2h specific argument for Nadal vs. both, since he leads by grand slam victories against both and leads both, but considering that Nadal's entire CV is clay skewed, given how dominant he was on the surface it shouldn't be huge revelation! Lol He played Novak 10 freaking times on the courts, which he dominated since 2005 and lost only four times ever since, that is parisian red clay off course, the Roland Garros, which he has won 14 times throughout that stretch from 2005 till 2024, meaning 14 titles out of 19 (one of them being when he was forced to withdraw in 2016 due to back problems...), so 4 real losses in 19 editions, in 10 of which he played Novak on the way! And bull fans have actually the nerve to throw slam specific arguments into Nolefam faces! Imagine the audacity! Ef there is even tiny chance their h2h were more evenly spread accross more different slams instead of them meeting so damn many times at RG alone does anyone really think here Nadal would still be ahead in h2h?! Really?!…
Okay let's even take the US Open (Bull fans 2nd favorite argument after flexing with that 11-7 advantage lol), okay so Nadal leads on USO hard marginally 2-1 (all in finals btw!), the last victory over Novak came in 2013 and they haven't played or met there ever since, does anyone here really believe that if they played at least couple more times Novak wouldn't have beat him in both of those occasions, considering Nadal wasn't abke to even take set off Djokovic on hard courts ever since then?! No my dear bull fans, if that were to somehow happen their h2h at the USO by now would be - 3-2 in favour of Djokovic and the whole "but the USO..." argument would immediately fold like a card house! Lmao But because Nadal was running scared from Djokovic on both hard and grass courts (with the exception of 2018 semis at the Wimbledon and AO final in 2019) he managed to preserve his h2h advantage at slams by only focusing on meeting him at RG tournament! All things considered if i were you i wouldn't dare bringing those arguments up!…
Of course, Nole is the greatest without a doubt. The only people that don't accept this real facts are the Rogers and Nadal fans, but at this time who cares what they say. Numbers and statistics speak for themselves.
How come a 3 set olympic match can be greater than a 5 set Grand Slams?
@@gautaml6891how many victories on clay? And how many before 2011?
@@gautaml6891 yea, that matters aloooooot. Nadal doesnt come close to Novak on grass or Hard courts.
Your reasoning is hilarious and completely on point! Nole is the GOAT, I've never questioned it!
Nadal hasn't beaten Novak in 10 years on any surface only occasionally on clay!!!!!!!! Novak is way ahead in all categories.
Couldn't agree more. I remember becoming a big fan of Djokovic when he first came on the scene, and it's so obvious that people who want to argue that either Federer or Nadal deserve the greatest acclaim in the sport, at this point, are doing so for reasons that have nothing to do with Tennis. The "debate" is nothing but a popularity contest, and one coloured by Western political anti-Eastern European/Slavic/Russian/Serbian sentiments and prejudices in Western sports media and Western media in general. I remember how Djokovic was always treated at the US Open, basically like a villain by the crowd a lot of the time, again, for reasons having zero to do with the sport itself, or with his actual conduct and behavior, which has always been excellent. Contrast that with Serena Williams, who has been an openly awful person on-court tons of times, but always is treated like a perfect goddess by the American media and fans. Federer and Nadal are of course also truly great players, true legends, but their fans are delusional to think that "popularity" should have anything to do with the conversation about who the GOAT truly is. And anyone who is a pure fan of the sport itself ought to be a big fan of Djokovic, because unlike Federer or Nadal, he has no weaknesses, no bad surface, no side that is worse than the other... he is the true complete best player of all time, and that ought to be obvious to anyone who loves the sport itself, and doesn't merely happen to like Federer or Nadal for "fandom" type reasons... which let's be honest, a lot of those numbers of their fans are.
Why is Nadal 21* grand slams ?
Besides the unreachable 23 world titles, Novak has the complete 'package'. He stood firm while tolerating scorn, derision and abuse,concerning PERSONAL health decisions.His patriotic, Christian and family values are the TRUE embodiment of actual European ideals, not the preudo-values espoused by the captured and corrupt European leaders. A REAL LEADER from a country that has also been abused by the West.From Greece with love.
That is the reason why they hate Novak so much, he has BALLS and STANDARDS and REFUSING to BOW DOWN!
Still, 23 is a number and is objective. That he is a man of principles is a subjective assessment that many people don't share, me included.
Novak won 24th Grand Slam US Open 10th September 2023.
Please update with slam #23 as soon as possible!! :)
Nadal fans will talk about Roland Garos and Olimpic medal, Rogers will talk about most tournaments.. (250 points.. whatever)
And Novak is simply from Serbia!
If he was under UK or USA flag.. he would be the greatest of all time *without* *any* *question* *AND* *WIHT* *ALL* *PRIVILEGES*
But Novak is from Serbia. World will understand Serbia and Searbian people (maybe) someday..They are simply so sinful and so unaware of what they are doing.
People do not deal with real life values and this world
and this world is slowly but surely moving towards certain paths of destruction.
Let's enjoy all the magic of Novak Djokovic, while the magic still lasts... And lets pray that the world has more people PS *human* *people* ,and then sportsmen like Novak.
Thank you for the video Sir
As always precise🤝🏼🎯
If Novak is from Serbia, he cannot be considered as GOAT - said idiots :)
So true
@@philipnguyen3107 What?
The Media consistently attacks Slavic people, which the Serbians are a member. Thanks to comment boards they will have a harder time in the future.
Unbelievably true Serbs are always thorns in peoples eyes unfortunately, they been demonizing us for a long time enough is enough.....
There are actually 3 more important things other than the ones you mentioned: winning all 14 Big titles, number of real career Grand Slams and if exists, the Grand Slam, whether a Calendar Grand Slam or Non-Calendar Grand Slam. Of course, these are only in additional to the 5 records you mentioned.
Its 24 Slams now, more Weeks #1 and soon to be 8 Year-End #1 and counting for Djokovic. Don't forget, he's the only player to win each Grand Slam 3 times.
Thanks for compiling the numbers. I always liked Djokovic and saw him as the underdog earlier in his career, but the numbers don't lie and I'm glad he got the respect and the wins he deserved! Amazing player
People dont want a serbian man to be the greatest player of all time and thats why they are saying Nadal and Federer are greater players than Novak. But as you said, all the numbers are with Novak and we should consider the fact that he has positive h2h again both Nadal and Federer. Therefore Djokovic is the GOAT!
23 Grand Slam. And the debate is now officially over
#23 Novak Djokovic - All Time Greatest & GOAT, no more arguments, no more disputes. King of Kings.
Nadal>>>>
@@walidamriou2555you have the video, you have all the facts🤦♂️I can't believe you are still picking Nadal over Djokovic
Novak is also the only one who's been denied participation in both Australian Open and US Open, thus favouring his opponent(s). No question he is the GOAT. Also, those who say he's not so popular than the other two refer mainly to America and arguably Western Europe. The other 7 billion earthlings are very much happy with the best player of all times coming from a small country and being an authentic human being, not compliant with the controlling impositions of today's powers.
Nah djokovic is à drama queen and he loves playing that victim rôle and his fans love picturing him as the one who get fought by the world and the world is against him and bla bla bla same as ronaldo while the only truth is messi and Nadal are the goats
hope you make a new video this days
Djoko stands up and speaks up of his values and characters. What a man!!!
@@nt9854 Numbers are universal, they speak by themselves. That simple!
@@nt9854wym? He genuinely stands behind his beliefs and sacrifices for them. Bet you don't ;p
@@majormind1584people are sheep in a flock.That’s why they hate the strong one
Great video. Now is even better with 23 Grand Slams and counting
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Congrats to Novak Djokovic for winning US Open 2023 and his 24 GS title. Only the sky is the limit now 👏👏
Why is Nadal 21* grand slams ?
End of november 2023
Đoković holds record for every category you listed and still going
A fucking alien, out of this world, the GOAT
Last line is knock out punch...
Honestly, this was not that surprising. Djokovic was always the most talented of the three. Once he got his mental game to where it needed to be, it was inevitable that he would become better than the other two. It was just how much of a mark would he make historically, was the question mark.
But basically, it was just if all three were to reach their full potential, Djokovic would come out on top. And that's all that happened. This should not be a surprise to anyone.
Novak would be sitting on 25-27 slams without COVID. That’s the scary part
Novak won the French open last Sunday. I asked a nAdal fan friend of mine -who is the best?
- nadal forever.
People are blind….
Two guys who yesterday's win has to be killing inside: the choker Federer and Nadal's bitch uncle Toni. I love it and it makes #23 even sweeter.
I think the easiest way to describe why Djokovic is the GOAT ( without analyzing and comparing each title vs.the competitors) is to mention that Djokovic had more success than Federer and Nadal on 2/3 surfaces ( ND won more GS titles than RN on HC+GRASS ,and more GS titles than RF on HC+CLAY).Then, the second argument in Novak' s favor is the fact that he accomplished more than 50% of what FEDAL accomplished together when you compare GS+WTF+ATP1000+WEEKS@#1+H2H+TOP10WINS+YE#1+PRIZE$.Then, you compare each one to the other and look at what they did not do ( accomplish).Rafa never won WTF,Miami, Paris,Shanghai , never defended a grass title, never beat Novak in 5 main tournaments ( AO+MIA+CIN+PAR+CHINA OPEN).Federer never won MC/Rome, never beat Nadal in USO/RG.
You are right numbers don't lie. To be goat Goatovic has H2H against Fedal. He got the holy grail of grand slams. And the golden master twice. It means he is a complete player on all surface. Forget all the x and the o. He is the emperor of tennis.❤💯👍👽
One more Monte Carlo and that's 3 times. 😊
and next week he won't even be 2nd in rankings, just 3rd. Federer your king!
@@arncj18 Federer Is forever 310 weeks as # 1 and Goatovic is 428 weeks as #1 and counting.......🎾🏆💯👍🙏💔
@@philipnguyen3107 next week he is 3rd
@@arncj18 I know he is injured. He was 6th when ATP took 10,000 points away from him. He will be back or retire and he stands alone at 428 weeks as # 1 . Goatovic is unrivaled
And unmatched at 24 slams. 🎾🏆👽
👍 BRILLIANTLY EXPRESSED. THANK YOU! 🙏
Novak is underated while the other two are overrated. I don't trust the sport anymore.
The opinion of a few Federer and Nadal fans is not the same as the opinion of unbiased tennis fans (the opinions that matter). According to unbiased tennis fans, Novak is the GOAT (and btw I'm saying this as a Fed fan).
I always argue when Fedal fans said "Djokovic isn't love like Federer and Nadal": Please, this is tennis, not a Miss Congeniality Contest.
I will never forget the courage Djokovic showed during the COVID "pandemic". He is the GOAT far beyond Tennis.
How far beyond Tennis?
@@thomaswahrheitssucher4396 a question only a Gummihals can ask.
@@danield.7359 That doesn't answer my question.
By the way, you are mistaken: I don't live in Switzerland, never have und never will.
@@thomaswahrheitssucher4396 so you looked it up 😁 . I'm not obliged to answer your question, but what I meant with "way beyond" is his actions besides the tennis court, his fight for human rights, freedom and bodily integrity, his stance on the whole covid and vaccine scam. That's where I started to appreciate him a lot because what he did, what he stood for required a firm, well grown backbone and very big balls.
Novak has had to achieve his record by playing against both Federer and Nadal at their peak and he has consistently beat them both throughout his career, he has won on all surfaces, and if it wasn't for the Covid mandates he could well have more slams to his name. He is indeed the G.O.A.T.
Novak has a 30 to 29 record against Nadal. I wouldn't call that consistent.
@@richardplantan4375 I think Nadal's winning percentage is around 80% so if someone is beating him over 50% of the time he plays him I would say that is pretty good.
@@richardplantan4375 when you realize half of those contests came on clay it makes sense, but to beat nadal on his favorite surface the same amount of times he has beaten you on your favorite (nadal has one less on hardcourts hence the lead) speaks volumes, as nobody is even close to beating nadal 8 times on clay 2 of them being in roland garros where the man lost 3 times since 2005. The stats absolutely lie in their h2h since novak hasnt lost even once to nadal outside clay since 2013 US open final while all of his clay wins came after 2013. What it means is when both were at their prime not only was novak more dominant on any other surface but clay, he also was the only person in existence that could beat nadal on clay (albeit rarely)
Novak is the Mohammed Ali of tennis.
Totally agree with your facts, we just need to inform the crooked media.
23 since last Sunday.
Very nice video, nice point, nice music, well said at the end 😅...well done.
What is the last song name?
Thanks. Song names are in the description.
Come on Novak!! 🏆🥇🎾💪💪💪🎉🎉🎉🎉 !!
GS 23 completed for Tennis #Goat #DjokerNole.
FOR THE MAIN TOPIC:
The answer why the GOAT race is so confusing is 1:08.
People misunderstood this as a POPULARITY contest.
They are living indenial in the pathetic '3 goats' debate.
FOR THE MUSIC:
Glad you bring back Patrick Patrikios' tracks.
Hope for more video to come, Goatkovic! IDEMO!
they did not misunderstand anything. they are trying to shift the goal posts now that Federer does not have most majors and week at #1s.
🏆 *UNVACCINATED & UNDEFEATED NovaXX* 🏆 There will be NO VAXXED🔴💉💉🔴 WEAK HEART left to OPPOSE NovaXX ❎❎❎
I enjoyed watching all three players, each for different reasons. There is no denying that these are the three best tennis players ever. No doubt Djokovic is the GOAT.
Time for update
If it wasn't before today, it certainly is now.
Great video once again. Looking forward to the next one about GS/Masters titles argument.
Also it would be great if you to expand on the point you made in your previous video on why you have RF as your no.2 in GOAT race and RN as no.3...
Cheers!
Only thing left to get is an 8th Wimbledon title to erase all of Federer's tennis accomplishments.
Based and grand slam tennis isn't a popularity contest pilled.
Keyed
Djoker has the edge on both the other guys in head 2 head too
the debate is over for now!
We are looking forward to your next video. I hope you enjoyed the latest victory against Carlito!!. Idemo NOLE!!
The GOAT race was over long ago ! There hasn’t really been one in the slightest since January.
Former Nadal supporter. Novak convert from January 2020. He’s sacrificed titles and slams while close to his best form, been booted from the U.S. and Australia, and still holds the record. The courts are slower and suit baseliners of today. I truly pray they quicken the courts to rattle the game. There’s nothing quite like watching matches at the highest level in 2023.
@Goatkovic can you make an additional video in this series about who is the 2nd greatest and why? I know your view and agree, but I would like to hear your professional explanation.
If u add in the match fixing in favour of Nadal and Federer over Djokovic and Murray it is another shamefull thing to add. Djokovic always playing at worst times in the hottest periods of the day, has the crowd against him, the media narratives, x3 x4 times more doping tests compared to the other 2. Nadal and Federer are baked by everyone, the crowd, the media, the tournament organizers, you can even argue the referees. They are children of the system and the system has their back and that is clear for they defended that same system in detriment to the players while Djokovic is doing the opposite and is on the side of the players despite most of them not being vocal and helping him during Australian covid scandal. Better personality and better human overall are also qualities that are considered in goat debates.
If Wimbledon points were awarded novak would would have more weeks at no 1, excluding all other stuff that happened during that time period.
8 year end number one, oldest year end number 1 and like 100+ consecutive weeks in his late 30s.
Can you make a video of who is better between Nadal and Federer?
He’s been the best since he dominated in 2011.
Nadal Fan Here But As A Tennis Fan I Accept All The True Facts In This Video Content.Well Done GOATKOVIC.
Couple of points:
1. The gap between Novak and the other two is going to grow in most categories. Certainly in the majors won (Novak should hit 25) and weeks at #1 (Novak is already at 388 and should each 400+ shortly). If Novak wins Wimbledon, Novak will likely also finished the year at #1 for the 8th time.
2. Novak has a winning record against Roger (27-23) and Rafa (30-29), as well as more wins vs top 10 players (245) than Roger (223) or Rafa (188), and a better winning record against top 10 players (69%) than Roger and Rafa (both of which have a 65% record).
And now he has 24 and counting. He will have at least 30 by the time he hangs it up.
Super excited for your video on why grand slams is not the only thing that matter. As always, great video. 😁
Tennis #Goat #DjokerNole is huge popular and have massive fan base in Non-Western world. The Universe isn’t about only Western world.
In just a few years time Novak's attitude against the vaccines will gain even more appreciation. He is the best on and off the court.
all the numbers ar allready there, all over the world, region by region, country by country. Death and long covid rate per age cohort and vaccination coverage rate. Of course everybody is allowed to believe in conspiracy theories, ignoring official statistics.
Not only did he compete with peak Nadal, but he also continues to surpass him, showcasing the sheer greatness of the GOAT Novak Djokovic.
I know this was made before the recent French Open finals win, which of course only deepens the argument. Now, with Novak being the only person to win all 4 grand slams 3 times, it's not even a debate anymore. I say this as a huge Nadal fan. I am actually most of all, a tennis fan. So all three of them are/were legends of the sport who pushed each other to insane heights.
I got to meet Djokovic at Indian Wells about 7 years ago and he was super friendly and accommodated my telling him a joke by laughing when my delivery was terrible. This was back when the Djoker was courting folks to tell him jokes.
Hej Brother.. were waiting on your take :)
Novak has now, 23 Grand Slams!!!
Despite the thorough and solid argumentation, there will always be a certain amount of people that will persist to live in their own bubble and reality( denial?deficiencies?emotional thinking?)..
Goatkovic thanks for yor contribution to supporting the truth!
Hey, just came here after this year's RG final, cant wait to hear what you have to say in new video.
No other way asking you except drop a comment hope you can see it!!
I love and adore Djokovic because he's hot (period)🙈
All the more with all of his records being the goat. Love your channel! Haha
Novak now has 23 grandslams ;)
Firstly I'm a Federer fan. The media have always it seems to promote Fedal as the best and Novak not so. Add into this Novak recent stance on the events of 2020 the media are even less likely to fully endorse Novak as the GOAT. I've followed tennis since the 1975 Wimbledon final where my all time favourite Jimmy Connors was beaten by Arthur Ashe. With the arrival of the Fed he for me became the GOAT. But even as a Fed fan Novak is the GOAT and not just for his on court achievements. Great presentations which the MSM would hate to see.
Another goat argument was he broke all these titles playing against the second and 3rd best tennis players ever, even if someone breaks some records of his in the future no one will have the competition Novak had over his career, truly separated himself as the goat by a mile
I think that you forgot one stat. Nole and Nadal played 59 times. Nole leads 30/29. As for Roger, nole leads 27-23. Also, Nadal has negative stats with Davydenko... Finally, Nole has the best stats 83.44%, 1059 won 210 lost!!! No doubt for me...
This aged well
Even with sampras it wasn't that simple. Sampras' failure to win the french open raised serious questions about his goat status as even federer when his chance came took RG as did Novak. Agassi's four slams on four surfaces (+4 more) +olympic gold +year end tournament+#1 puts him ahead of sampras. Novak is now almost certainly the greatest ever
Nole is clearly the best ever , a complete athlete and consistency over time which will be hard to beat in the future but why has Nadal got 21 slams? It’s 22
Why? Most probably because Novak was unfairly and disgracefully deported from Australia two years ago, thus allowing Nadal to take full advantage of the situation to win a Grand Slam at Melbourne Park. It's almost impossible for any intelligent and fair-minded tennis fan to genuinely believe that Nadal would have won that title had Novak not been denied the right to play, and that's why Nadal will always carry an asterisk next to his name. Just as bad, Nadal had absolutely nothing positive, supportive or encouraging to say about his rival, despite it being a time of great personal crisis in Novak's life. On the contrary, Nadal appeared quite unsympathetic, if not cold and distant, and that's something that he should feel forever embarrassed about. Had the situation been reversed, I've no doubt that Novak would have spoken out in support of Nadal, but that's because they're very different human beings, let alone tennis players.
@@Turrican60 I know all that he still has 22 slams tho and he’s still second best ! Nole would probably have several more due to a cancelled wimbledon , an unfair disqualification at us open and deported from Australia but Nadal still has 22 👍
How is he consistent when he only won 1 slam in 2012, 2013, 2014 then disappearing in 2017. 2019's only wimbledon win was debatable too. His slam wins are all scattered around besides AO. The statistics are too general to justify. Can he beat Roger's streak 2004 - 2007 or Rafa insane clay wins? He's not the GOAT bro. In my view, Novak only played well in 2011.
@@Turrican60 Your argument is so one-sided. Nadal and Roger: best friends, able to help each other's foundation. Novak made a statement saying that Rival cant be close friends. Who isnt positive now? Im sorry, he deserved that deport and default in US open.
@@earl8295 probably not the opinion shared by the majority and the facts don’t lie however much you convince yourself otherwise because you don’t like the player .