YES!!!!!!!! This is the way!!! This is the return of the art of audio engineering, in my opinion. Having complete control is control freak-ery, not audio engineering. The art in audio engineering is riding the bucking bronco of a live performance, not playing with the lego of pro-tools. It’s not about (mostly) the technology of the past that makes classics classic, it’s the approach. Yeah NIN, sure. But things like that are the exception to the rule. He accomplished that with a fairly unhealthy lifestyle. It’s a lot easier to be a happy, healthy person that doesn’t shy away from the reality of a live band’s imperfection. If you are worried about AI… This is how AI won’t wreck real musicians. It’s the path out of the uncanny valley we’re all in.
Kevin has mixed and mastered all of our music , really talented guy and knows what he’s doing when working with music tuned way low . Cheers Baritone Cult ⭕️
Live, in the room is 100% of what I’m into. No click, plenty of mic bleed….real musicians making music together. What you lose in separation or in the perception of the “perfect” take is exponentially surpassed by a well rehearsed band playing together and feeding off each other. It absolutely translates in energy and vibe plus it makes it easier to mix as well. You just have to take your time setting mic up and organizing where people will be and where things will be pointed.
That's why I'm listening to powerviolence/grind/hardcore with the raw sound and sloppy performing 🤘 I cannot stand that modern fake metal where they record each bar separately, quantise, autotune and so on.
A great video that needs to be seen by many more upcoming engineers and producers. Commitment is amazing and makes the process so much more fun and inspiring. HOWEVER, a big key here is that if you want to go that route, you also have to consider the skills of the artists/band. If the band can't play their songs live or can't utilize their instruments properly, nothing good will come out in the end. I've had a couple of bands at the studio that started of by going "We want to play live and sound raw" but it turned out they couldn't perform their songs good enough to do that. So we had to resort back to going the overdub route, going part by part and so on...I couldn't really use my outboard because it would not help on a bad performance. Anyways, lovely video, as always on your channel! Love this approach!
That's right. If the band sucks it's not gonna work! I gotta say that lately all bands over here which went into that direction really had rehearsed their shit! In that case, it's fun!
Those bands just shouldn’t be in the studio till they’re ready to pull it off. Reamping, sample replaced drums won’t really fix it either…it’ll sound flat and lifeless.
What’s really surprising to me is that as an aspiring but non-recording musician, I always assumed this was the rule rather than the exception. Cool to see this kind of recording in action!
Oh no! The standard way of making metal records these days has nothing to do with what you have seen here 😇. That's why it is ironically so refreshing.
Can you make a video testing Celestion BN12-300S speakers as used in guitar cabs, for metal guitar tones? Not bass, guitar. And how does it compare to likes of Celestion Redback, Celestion Cream backs, Eminence EM12, Eminence Swamp Thang, and so on? And I guess the V30 as well for the sake of it being the standard that I'm not really interested to but I guess it has to be there for the video to be useful for a broader audience... I think it would be an interesting video. Or if you can think of any other bass speakers that are known to be good for guitar as well besides BN12-300S, that topic is really interesting IMO.
Hi Kohle, awesome video, i love dirty stuff. I just wanted to ask, why you don't need a noise gate in the studio? Cause there will be a lot of noise, right?
If I play a 3rd interval and it doesn't sound like mud it is too clean. Octave, 5ths, and 4ths only haha. Totally not because I can only play powerchords either
When the hell is kevin gonna upload to his channel again? I saw his face in the video and was like oh yeah! That fuckin guy! He hasnt posted in forever.
Hannnggg on haaannng onnn. It's not that it has to sound messy and dirty. I prefer very well produced and super clean sounding, it is just that noone is chasing a band's uniqueness anymore. We don't buy a record to hear how a band sounds live. We buy a record to hear a band's best performances and the best production the band is aiming to achieve at a point in time.
*no one Also, don't speak for people who aren't you. A lot of my favourite albums from big bands are live albums because you hear what they were *actually* capable of performing in one go.
@@Arkansya by 'clean' here I don't mean standardised or sterile. I mean the best and most unadulterated version of a performance, the best possible representation of the song a band is trying to get down.
It's hilarious that Kohle keeps having bass players who play with their fingers but keeps saying that all bass players should use a pick in other videos lmfao 🤣
It's funny that this actually mathcore; nowadays people call anything that has some tapping in it "mathcore" 🤮. They seem to miss the whole point that it was called "Mathcore" because it had time signature changes and odd groupings.
the phase thing about electronic and air is not accurate. there is delay in electronics everytime you have a filter and there is stages that flip phase too. even if it is full electronic you should check the phase.
It’s right that you should check the polarity. But any delays in those circuits (unless digital) will be negligible compared to the delay of sound traveling through the air
God yes. I'm sick to death of what I've heard another youtuber call "metal style beats" as the state of modern "metal". It's bland, it's overdone, it's fake, and it sucks.
Sounds pretty refreshing! 🍋Don't you think?
Let me know your opinion!
Like what?
YES!!!!!!!! This is the way!!!
This is the return of the art of audio engineering, in my opinion. Having complete control is control freak-ery, not audio engineering.
The art in audio engineering is riding the bucking bronco of a live performance, not playing with the lego of pro-tools.
It’s not about (mostly) the technology of the past that makes classics classic, it’s the approach.
Yeah NIN, sure. But things like that are the exception to the rule. He accomplished that with a fairly unhealthy lifestyle.
It’s a lot easier to be a happy, healthy person that doesn’t shy away from the reality of a live band’s imperfection.
If you are worried about AI…
This is how AI won’t wreck real musicians. It’s the path out of the uncanny valley we’re all in.
Who doesn't LOVE some old fashioned MATH CORE!!!!
Haha!
Don’t say you don’t love his approach of recording live?
I love it!@@KohleAudioKult plus I love the track!! Great band
I thought so 💖
produce-like-a-mathcore !!! : P
😂
PREACH 🤘I swear, this is why we are all obsessed about the 60s and 90s eras🍻 beauty is in imperfection🤘
Great video.
13:59 Great advice about committing when tracking.
Kevin has mixed and mastered all of our music , really talented guy and knows what he’s doing when working with music tuned way low . Cheers Baritone Cult ⭕️
Live, in the room is 100% of what I’m into. No click, plenty of mic bleed….real musicians making music together. What you lose in separation or in the perception of the “perfect” take is exponentially surpassed by a well rehearsed band playing together and feeding off each other. It absolutely translates in energy and vibe plus it makes it easier to mix as well. You just have to take your time setting mic up and organizing where people will be and where things will be pointed.
That's why I'm listening to powerviolence/grind/hardcore with the raw sound and sloppy performing 🤘
I cannot stand that modern fake metal where they record each bar separately, quantise, autotune and so on.
A great video that needs to be seen by many more upcoming engineers and producers.
Commitment is amazing and makes the process so much more fun and inspiring.
HOWEVER, a big key here is that if you want to go that route, you also have to consider the skills of the artists/band.
If the band can't play their songs live or can't utilize their instruments properly, nothing good will come out in the end.
I've had a couple of bands at the studio that started of by going "We want to play live and sound raw" but it turned out they couldn't perform their songs good enough to do that.
So we had to resort back to going the overdub route, going part by part and so on...I couldn't really use my outboard because it would not help on a bad performance.
Anyways, lovely video, as always on your channel! Love this approach!
That's right. If the band sucks it's not gonna work!
I gotta say that lately all bands over here which went into that direction really had rehearsed their shit! In that case, it's fun!
Those bands just shouldn’t be in the studio till they’re ready to pull it off. Reamping, sample replaced drums won’t really fix it either…it’ll sound flat and lifeless.
What’s really surprising to me is that as an aspiring but non-recording musician, I always assumed this was the rule rather than the exception. Cool to see this kind of recording in action!
Oh no! The standard way of making metal records these days has nothing to do with what you have seen here 😇. That's why it is ironically so refreshing.
Their sound reminds me of VoiVod. A mix of punk/thrash/industrial.
Really enjoyable and accessible video. Some great guidelines to get going.
Love your T shirt, man!!!! Cheers and beers!!!
St. Pauli love! 🥰
some very useful little tips in there
thanks guyz
Kev’s the man!
This channel is killing it lately
Is there a click track at all?
Of course not!
Can you make a video testing Celestion BN12-300S speakers as used in guitar cabs, for metal guitar tones? Not bass, guitar. And how does it compare to likes of Celestion Redback, Celestion Cream backs, Eminence EM12, Eminence Swamp Thang, and so on? And I guess the V30 as well for the sake of it being the standard that I'm not really interested to but I guess it has to be there for the video to be useful for a broader audience... I think it would be an interesting video. Or if you can think of any other bass speakers that are known to be good for guitar as well besides BN12-300S, that topic is really interesting IMO.
Hi Kohle, awesome video, i love dirty stuff. I just wanted to ask, why you don't need a noise gate in the studio? Cause there will be a lot of noise, right?
Because they’re not next to screaming guitar cabs I assume
Tyranny from above by Ceremony is the sound we like.
Nice shirt! Have onde too. Greatings from Portugal
Thanks! I also have a Super Bock shirt (from filming an upcoming course in Porto) by the way! 🍻
I like the idea of this "live performance" approach, but wonder if it only works with 2 guitarists (to get width in the mix)? 🤔
the traditional way is to track live and add additional tracks After, playing on thé first recording
If I play a 3rd interval and it doesn't sound like mud it is too clean. Octave, 5ths, and 4ths only haha. Totally not because I can only play powerchords either
Haha! Much love for that approach 🤘
Get rid of the clicks, pads, intense editing.
Play in the room together.
When the hell is kevin gonna upload to his channel again? I saw his face in the video and was like oh yeah! That fuckin guy! He hasnt posted in forever.
Maybe it weird but I'd like to hear this with a vintage Laney Supergroup or Klipp.
Hannnggg on haaannng onnn. It's not that it has to sound messy and dirty. I prefer very well produced and super clean sounding, it is just that noone is chasing a band's uniqueness anymore. We don't buy a record to hear how a band sounds live. We buy a record to hear a band's best performances and the best production the band is aiming to achieve at a point in time.
I understand But it’s all a matter of taste and perspective.
Someone just commented: „I love the beauty of imperfection“.
best doesnt always mean clean
*no one
Also, don't speak for people who aren't you. A lot of my favourite albums from big bands are live albums because you hear what they were *actually* capable of performing in one go.
@@KohleAudioKult yup cool I agree, personal preference for sure
@@Arkansya by 'clean' here I don't mean standardised or sterile. I mean the best and most unadulterated version of a performance, the best possible representation of the song a band is trying to get down.
Wir waschen uns nie...SANKT PAULI!!
Being in tune isn't imperative! Triggering every djent metalcore nerd with that.
I hope he adds some bass to the bass.
It's hilarious that Kohle keeps having bass players who play with their fingers but keeps saying that all bass players should use a pick in other videos lmfao 🤣
I would like to add that if music is supposed to be fun it is WAY more fun to record like that. More gas pedal and less steering wheel !
That's a lovely description!
St Pauli T-Shirt! Respect!
Much St. Pauli love here! 🤘❤️
Devo was right.
Devolution is happening.
The snake bites it's tail.
🤔🤔😃What happened to Keven's beard?
What do you mean?
Kreat! 👍🏻🔥🤘🏻
DJ!
It's funny that this actually mathcore; nowadays people call anything that has some tapping in it "mathcore" 🤮. They seem to miss the whole point that it was called "Mathcore" because it had time signature changes and odd groupings.
Yep, Mathcore it is. They do have a nice combination of chaos and prog in a way.
This is a legitimate complaint to have about a lot of mathcore bands and you chose fucking sawtooth grin to bitch about lmao
and raw sound. the french math scene kept it more on the dillinger side, and not "emo with tapping", chek it out
If you want raw use little money a 2 channel input for two mics and hit record. I don't get spending a ton of cash to make RAW MUSIC?
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the phase thing about electronic and air is not accurate. there is delay in electronics everytime you have a filter and there is stages that flip phase too. even if it is full electronic you should check the phase.
It’s right that you should check the polarity.
But any delays in those circuits (unless digital) will be negligible compared to the delay of sound traveling through the air
These guys never heard of Dunch from Skagway Alaska. They have that good dirty sound.
1 + 1 = 2
you fuckin got itt !!! : )
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God yes. I'm sick to death of what I've heard another youtuber call "metal style beats" as the state of modern "metal".
It's bland, it's overdone, it's fake, and it sucks.
prod isn't the problem, bands are. Too many well produced clones.
Modern tech makes many musicians lazy!
@@KohleAudioKult they're gonna be replaced with AIs soon enough and I really see nothing wrong with that!
Every released recording should have a live performance at it’s base. EV. ERY.
If there is a recording maxim hill that I will die on, it’s that.
Can't fix a boring band.