I am so glad Smitty's foot has swung back around & is facing the correct way. Hopefully it will continue to heal & in time stabilize itself so at least it's not getting caught on things & constantly being re-injured.
I so spitting mad right now! Our gang got hit too hard this season. They should never sterilize them before they have a birthing season. That’s too young and feels so unethical to me. Who knows how many Bo’s they’ve created. So angry!
They won’t be hormonally driven, at least. All we can do is watch and wait. It’ll be interesting to see what they do with the Car Park troop. They’re on the edge of Golden Hill.
It's so sad. I understand whst they are truing to do, but couldn't the authorities work with Mr. A.M, JW, & Monkeys inc to figure out a better, more compassionate way to administer these sterilizations?
I was just thinking that they should find out from AM, Monkey's Inc., JW (I think it's JW anyway), which ones are exceptional mothers and ahould not be messed with
If you’ve seen the vids of the monkies running wild in the streets of Thailand you’ll find your answer. The Thai authorities have also tried the same policy that China is trying, but it hasn’t been successful. At least the monkies on Golden Hill are somewhat contained. That may make the difference.
It's too bad all the troops don't have a Gyspy. At least she gives other females a chance to raise babies otherwise that would never get to. Gyspy is the lowest ranking member and all her babies are very loving to each other. If any of her offspring are in trouble, she leaps from the shadows and defends them. She may not be an ideal mother, but she is a blessing in disguise. I will defend her always.
@@pitbull1026I take your point. Other than the plucking, she’s not an abusive mother, and you’re right- there are plenty of aunties happy to step in for her. 👍🏻
@@mofolk8896 Thank you for understanding my point. I appreciate that. I've seen Haggy plucking her infants too. Makes you wonder how that got started. Haggy also sticks out her tongue like Gyspy, they could very well be related somehow.
@@mommieminnesota3108Agree! It’s not rocket science…common sense and a fairly true north moral compass. Ya know, be human…the more intelligent species 🙄
I was wondering the same thing? I wondered if that's when the babysitters really stepped in for Emily. As if it's not cruel enough taking Moms with babies. I am sorry Mr. A.M. this must be so heartbreaking in person, no matter how many times you must witness this, it can't get sny easier.😢
It's beyond sad that they do this without even trying to pick and choose in the truth which one they have to do this to they just do it randomly it just shows how stupid these people really are
Have you ever known a government, ever, from any country on Earth, in all of history, that chose to do things intelligently rather than efficiently? How much money would they have to invest to keep track of them, even?
@@Goldnfoxx Government efficiency in the United States: Federal level: Non-existent. State & Municipal level: Nearly extinct in Blue; Red fares better but on endangered list;
@@dawn_on1447 Oh, i didn't say governments were good at it, or that it isn't doublespeak. "Efficency" is ultimately a meaningless excuse. I'm only saying that bureaucracy always resuts in doing things in the least-intelligent way imaginable, and that the excuse is usally to try not to waste money (even though little gets done over long periods of time and always winds up costing far more than initially predicted). In the US, the excuse will always be it's an easier burden on taxpayers (which invariably winds up costing taxpayers more). I don't know the mechanics of how that works in China, but in this specific case, asking any government to actually take the time to get the know a huge set of monkeys well enough to know who the best candidates are for this sort of procedure, is laughable. It's not even feasible in reality, and at the end of the day, they'll just tell you that indiscriminately catching, sterilizing, and releasing monnkeys from the wild is the most efficient method of getting the job done without costing someone a fortune.
May be it will make their life easy, pregnancy & breast feeding is not an easy job in ever shrinking wilds. They have no say in if and when they want to have baby
Actually they do, if the female doesn't see someone she wants to mate with she can refuse, it's a matriarchal society and what the females choose to do is what happens, as long as they are ranked high enough.
I am so heart broken. I can't imagine how you are feeing. These sterilizations are barbaric Eugenics..How can one not love these beautiful family oriented creatures, who are so much like us.
I feel that if the authority can spend so much effort on sterilizing even females who have not come of age, as well as non-mothers, can't they give Smitty some attention and do something about his foot?
They should considering what there work is doing to each troop and each family within the troops, they know to not sterilize the Alpha female in each troop, so they surly have some knowledge about the troops
Do they have a mobile unit they take the females to? It must be very upsetting to a troupe when all these females are taken and returned with an ugly tattoo and no idea what it means--although I suspect these smart monkeys do understand. Couldn't then give Smitty a shot of antibiotics to help his foot heal?
This should have been reported as soon as these videographers saw this injury. There is no need for animals to suffer. I sent an email with screenshots on 12/02 asking the AFCD to intervene. They replied they will look into this. Whether the will or not, I don’t know.
He's a wild monkey, so they won't interfere. Besides, there are no vets for them, so nature will just take its course. Sterilizations can be performed by techs who are trained to do that specific procedure.
A.M. you actually don’t need the full frontal view, their lower sides of the abdomen seems to be shaved, I could tell right away that Fify was fine & poor Natalie wasn’t 😒, furthermore I don’t believe they care about the fact they could be making a future Bo i believe it was the reason she kept accidentally killing babies, she wanted to be a mom, but wasn’t able to have her own 😢
Really sad to see Nataly got it, she’s a great mom. We’ve seen with Stella a d some of the males that the sterilizations don’t always take, so we can hope that nature finds a way.
I would not have thought so because Males don't really limit the birthrate, unless the females were not to mate with many partners at all (which might be the case). That said, I saw Lowry was tattooed, so what would be the point of tattooing him otherwise?
What a heavy heart you must have today. I imagine even your feet felt like you were wearing lead boots back down that hill. It takes the spring right out of your step to see all these sterilizations days after the fact. They each lost something so vital and how sad some will never know the fulfillment of their purpose. 3 years old seems far too young. This was a rather sharp cull this year. I can’t recall that so many were caught the last time they came around. I guess our only consolation today is that perhaps next year the culling won’t run so deep. Take an extra moment for yourself to grieve the future implications you experienced. It must take the wind right out of your sails to see it up close.
I’m pretty much done shopping, decorating is done, we usually do a big batch of puppy chow snacks instead of baking, wrapping is about all that is left. This is when I really miss our daughter, we were quite a paper & ribbon duo. Are you a cookie baker?
@ yes I always bake cookies and give some as gifts. Our son can’t get away for Christmas so we are having a friends Christmas here. I usually just send gift certificates to relatives up north so shopping isn’t really an issue. I am all decorated though so that’s something.
I feel the same way they shouldn't fix them till there first child this is a terrible thing why can't they just leave them alone nature takes care of them it should not be man that makes the decision for God's creatures they belong to him he is the judge !
Why do they go after the young ones who haven't even had a baby?!?! That's their LIFE!!!! 😢😢😭 You'd think they'd ask the opinion of our videographers!!! Give the a chance to have a girl and give them 1 chance at least to reproduce their offspring!!!! 😡🤬😡🤬😡
The aim is to reduce or stabilize the population. If every female reproduced, the babies would need to be sterilized. This way, it prevents doing double the work because the females that were bred would have to be done. I don’t think the monkeys know they have been sterilized.
Please leave God's creation alone. You are messing with nature. Keep human interaction away. Please leave nature alone. God is watching you. Very sad. We need to learn to live side by side in nature with All God's Beautiful Creatures.
I thought Reddy was the queen n her troop ??? if no is Bossy n the same troop ? If so I didn't even realize that 1. But I will never get my questions answered so. Kimtigger143(Rosser)!!!
Hello! Reddy has mid-level social standing. Bossy is the leader of their troop. Since they haven’t had a good male leader since Grandee, this troop has been floundering & Bossy seems less energetic to be the legendary fierce leader. The male leaders have limited reign as the females kick them out as needed. The females decide which males stay, get kicked out, or kept in mid-level roles, leaders, etc.
I am so glad Smitty's foot has swung back around & is facing the correct way. Hopefully it will continue to heal & in time stabilize itself so at least it's not getting caught on things & constantly being re-injured.
I so spitting mad right now! Our gang got hit too hard this season. They should never sterilize them before they have a birthing season. That’s too young and feels so unethical to me. Who knows how many Bo’s they’ve created. So angry!
I get why they have to do it but it's still sad. Their entire existence revolves around having babies and being mothers.
They can atleast let them have one.
i cant stand it when they go and do this to a whole troupe like that. Emily she is such a great mom and so chill and kind. so sad.
I see fear of humans in the behavior of the ones that have been sterilized. I’m guessing everyone looks like one at this point.
Will these sterilizations, especially the ones that have never had an offspring, cause more cases of kidnappings?
I was just thinking the same thing
Me also 😢
They won’t be hormonally driven, at least. All we can do is watch and wait. It’ll be interesting to see what they do with the Car Park troop. They’re on the edge of Golden Hill.
I think it is sinful that they take away a young female that hasn't had the joy of motherhood!
It's so sad. I understand whst they are truing to do, but couldn't the authorities work with Mr. A.M, JW, & Monkeys inc to figure out a better, more compassionate way to administer these sterilizations?
I was just thinking that they should find out from AM, Monkey's Inc., JW (I think it's JW anyway), which ones are exceptional mothers and ahould not be messed with
If you’ve seen the vids of the monkies running wild in the streets of Thailand you’ll find your answer. The Thai authorities have also tried the same policy that China is trying, but it hasn’t been successful. At least the monkies on Golden Hill are somewhat contained. That may make the difference.
Eu só queria que fosse um sonho ruim. A minha predileta Emily ótima mãe, ótima educadora. Estou abalada. Quanto tempo para acontecer de novo?
Desiree is your little buddy isn’t she? She’s so cute!
0:30 Neil's been eating to many herbs lol looks like me on Friday night minus the ice cream
I do not understand why they dont go after jubilees and skull heads troups, and leave the small ones alone! That makes no sense what so ever.
Why not fix just the bigger groups and let the little groups grow. Hopefully Tina is fixed.
Exactly stop random and start precise choosing.
Pepper's next one should be named Popper. As in halopeno popper.
I’m so glad Reddy and Dolly didn’t get caught. With any luck Gypsy was. Hailey was so sassy, eyebrowing and posturing 🤣🤣🤣
And I’m glad they didn’t get Fify!
It's too bad all the troops don't have a Gyspy. At least she gives other females a chance to raise babies otherwise that would never get to. Gyspy is the lowest ranking member and all her babies are very loving to each other. If any of her offspring are in trouble, she leaps from the shadows and defends them. She may not be an ideal mother, but she is a blessing in disguise. I will defend her always.
@@mofolk8896 and Tina
@@pitbull1026I take your point. Other than the plucking, she’s not an abusive mother, and you’re right- there are plenty of aunties happy to step in for her. 👍🏻
@@mofolk8896 Thank you for understanding my point. I appreciate that. I've seen Haggy plucking her infants too. Makes you wonder how that got started. Haggy also sticks out her tongue like Gyspy, they could very well be related somehow.
Man I broke my ankle 4 weeks ago I know how he feels
@@kayburgess8536 heel soon.
Yay, Dolly is spared. She is my fav.
Not Daphny😢 the struggle to keep her alive because her gran kept kidnapping her.
Im wondering if many of the disappeared are a result of the anesthesia and not waking up
They shouldn't have fixed the young ones until they have their first baby that's sad
Nor give anesthesia to nursing moms
I said the same thing.what gives them the right to do it period.
@@mommieminnesota3108Agree! It’s not rocket science…common sense and a fairly true north moral compass. Ya know, be human…the more intelligent species 🙄
Why, what is the difference? Stopping over population is the primary reason.
How long are they away from the troop for the sterilization process? Or is it done right there?
What happens to the babies when the mother is caught for sterilization?
I was wondering the same thing? I wondered if that's when the babysitters really stepped in for Emily. As if it's not cruel enough taking Moms with babies.
I am sorry Mr. A.M. this must be so heartbreaking in person, no matter how many times you must witness this, it can't get sny easier.😢
It's beyond sad that they do this without even trying to pick and choose in the truth which one they have to do this to they just do it randomly it just shows how stupid these people really are
Have you ever known a government, ever, from any country on Earth, in all of history, that chose to do things intelligently rather than efficiently? How much money would they have to invest to keep track of them, even?
@@Goldnfoxx Government efficiency in the United States: Federal level: Non-existent. State & Municipal level: Nearly extinct in Blue; Red fares better but on endangered list;
@@dawn_on1447 Oh, i didn't say governments were good at it, or that it isn't doublespeak. "Efficency" is ultimately a meaningless excuse. I'm only saying that bureaucracy always resuts in doing things in the least-intelligent way imaginable, and that the excuse is usally to try not to waste money (even though little gets done over long periods of time and always winds up costing far more than initially predicted). In the US, the excuse will always be it's an easier burden on taxpayers (which invariably winds up costing taxpayers more).
I don't know the mechanics of how that works in China, but in this specific case, asking any government to actually take the time to get the know a huge set of monkeys well enough to know who the best candidates are for this sort of procedure, is laughable. It's not even feasible in reality, and at the end of the day, they'll just tell you that indiscriminately catching, sterilizing, and releasing monnkeys from the wild is the most efficient method of getting the job done without costing someone a fortune.
May be it will make their life easy, pregnancy & breast feeding is not an easy job in ever shrinking wilds. They have no say in if and when they want to have baby
Actually they do, if the female doesn't see someone she wants to mate with she can refuse, it's a matriarchal society and what the females choose to do is what happens, as long as they are ranked high enough.
I am so heart broken. I can't imagine how you are feeing. These sterilizations are barbaric Eugenics..How can one not love these beautiful family oriented creatures, who are so much like us.
I feel that if the authority can spend so much effort on sterilizing even females who have not come of age, as well as non-mothers, can't they give Smitty some attention and do something about his foot?
Smiths left leg is significantly smaller now 😢
Happy Friday MH Friends! ❤
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@ You too, Pam! I’m so excited ‘cause my sister and her family from Wisconsin are arriving next week to spend Christmas with us here on the Cape!
@@capecodandbeyond I am so happy for you. That will be wonderful.
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Do the authorities keep track of troop births?
I don’t believe so.
@@debvit2353I thought maybe they did since he mentioned the scarcity of fertile females in Nora’s troop.
They must not. Surely they wouldn't knowingly wipe out a family line.
They should considering what there work is doing to each troop and each family within the troops, they know to not sterilize the Alpha female in each troop, so they surly have some knowledge about the troops
@@tngrandma242 I don't think they care, it's all about keeping the numbers down. So sad.
Do they have a mobile unit they take the females to? It must be very upsetting to a troupe when all these females are taken and returned with an ugly tattoo and no idea what it means--although I suspect these smart monkeys do understand. Couldn't then give Smitty a shot of antibiotics to help his foot heal?
13:42 Can you not report Smitty's foot to get him some help? Before it takes his life with a septic infection.
This should have been reported as soon as these videographers saw this injury. There is no need for animals to suffer. I sent an email with screenshots on 12/02 asking the AFCD to intervene. They replied they will look into this. Whether the will or not, I don’t know.
He's a wild monkey, so they won't interfere. Besides, there are no vets for them, so nature will just take its course. Sterilizations can be performed by techs who are trained to do that specific procedure.
Hi friends.
Hiya Pam!
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Hey sweetie. Hope all is well.
Why will Matty get to
Nurse beyond the 8 months. The moms don’t know they are fixed
When mums skip a year, they can continue nurse the last baby as long as they want. We know Milly was sterilized, she isn’t skippy voluntarily.
How long after mating season will we know who conceived?
Once the baby bump starts showing.
May is start of baby season.
A.M. you actually don’t need the full frontal view, their lower sides of the abdomen seems to be shaved, I could tell right away that Fify was fine & poor Natalie wasn’t 😒, furthermore I don’t believe they care about the fact they could be making a future Bo i believe it was the reason she kept accidentally killing babies, she wanted to be a mom, but wasn’t able to have her own 😢
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Really sad to see Nataly got it, she’s a great mom. We’ve seen with Stella a d some of the males that the sterilizations don’t always take, so we can hope that nature finds a way.
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I've been missing alot , 😢. Hello friends ❤
Glad you’re here.
How awful, Nataly and the younger ones are sterilized! 😢😢😢
Do the males get sterilized also? So sad.
I would not have thought so because Males don't really limit the birthrate, unless the females were not to mate with many partners at all (which might be the case).
That said, I saw Lowry was tattooed, so what would be the point of tattooing him otherwise?
This backward camera focus shows Rowena’s left hand swollen.
It’s too bad they do it for the babies early age
Shame on them
What a heavy heart you must have today. I imagine even your feet felt like you were wearing lead boots back down that hill. It takes the spring right out of your step to see all these sterilizations days after the fact. They each lost something so vital and how sad some will never know the fulfillment of their purpose. 3 years old seems far too young. This was a rather sharp cull this year. I can’t recall that so many were caught the last time they came around. I guess our only consolation today is that perhaps next year the culling won’t run so deep. Take an extra moment for yourself to grieve the future implications you experienced. It must take the wind right out of your sails to see it up close.
THIS IS HORRIBLE AND SHAMEFUL OF THEM TO DO THIS TO THEM. 😢😢😢
Emily: I am thinking she is favoring Bambi. If so, to what extent? Poor Breeze has been pushed out.
@AM IS THERE A PETITION WE CAN SIGN TO GET THIS TO STOP.THESE PPL DONTVREALIZE THE IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT THEY ATE DOING.
This is China. A petition means nothing except a volunteered list of people the state can now monitor for anti-gov’t behaviour.
After seeing Bennys shaved abdomen, I’m more convinced they got Spocky too. This sucks.
It's really a terrible when them do this.
NGL. not a Breeze fan...
@@prpr44 ?? Because he’s spoiled or something else?
Why would do that to younger one that horrible.
Is that really a big old ugly tattoo or like a permanent marker?
Tattoo
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Hi Deb. Hope the holiday season is going well for you.
@@PamPreston78Oh Pam! As usual, I’m very behind. I’ve really got to start on my baking! How about you?
I’m pretty much done shopping, decorating is done, we usually do a big batch of puppy chow snacks instead of baking, wrapping is about all that is left. This is when I really miss our daughter, we were quite a paper & ribbon duo. Are you a cookie baker?
@ yes I always bake cookies and give some as gifts. Our son can’t get away for Christmas so we are having a friends Christmas here. I usually just send gift certificates to relatives up north so shopping isn’t really an issue. I am all decorated though so that’s something.
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I feel the same way they shouldn't fix them till there first child this is a terrible thing why can't they just leave them alone nature takes care of them it should not be man that makes the decision for God's creatures they belong to him he is the judge !
That would be the coolest thing ever in the world if Pip has GIGANTISM and grows to become the largest monkey ever!
Why do they go after the young ones who haven't even had a baby?!?! That's their LIFE!!!! 😢😢😭
You'd think they'd ask the opinion of our videographers!!! Give the a chance to have a girl and give them 1 chance at least to reproduce their offspring!!!! 😡🤬😡🤬😡
The aim is to reduce or stabilize the population. If every female reproduced, the babies would need to be sterilized. This way, it prevents doing double the work because the females that were bred would have to be done.
I don’t think the monkeys know they have been sterilized.
Please leave God's creation alone. You are messing with nature. Keep human interaction away. Please leave nature alone. God is watching you. Very sad. We need to learn to live side by side in nature with All God's Beautiful Creatures.
I thought Reddy was the queen n her troop ??? if no is Bossy n the same troop ? If so I didn't even realize that 1. But I will never get my questions answered so. Kimtigger143(Rosser)!!!
Hello! Reddy has mid-level social standing. Bossy is the leader of their troop. Since they haven’t had a good male leader since Grandee, this troop has been floundering & Bossy seems less energetic to be the legendary fierce leader. The male leaders have limited reign as the females kick them out as needed. The females decide which males stay, get kicked out, or kept in mid-level roles, leaders, etc.