cheating in WT is bottom of the barrel, imagine broadcasting how bad you are that you cant even handle a mid ahh tank game. These are the kind of people who cheated in minecraft battle royale
@@Hieltiik buddy ive played this game for 10 years and I dont cheat. People who cheat are new players who suck ass and wont bother learning in the first place. WT isnt even a hard game
TBH, the folding of the Asian servers into the current ones was a major contributing factor. Even if it’s only a few servers, it would be enough to keep the majority of cheating/bot accounts contained. Is it painful for the legit players? Sadly, yes, but the only other option is for Gaijin to go to IP or kernal level measures.
SA server is a ghost server since the beginning, Chinese cheaters drove normal players out, then cheaters "chase" to European, Russian and American servers to skip waiting time.
Oh man, just hearing the name battle eye makes me slightly mad. i have some terrible memories from my rainbow six seige days and the abundance of hackers plaguing it
As someone who used to be in the CS:GO cheating community the only thing that the BattleEye will change is the price tag on those already available cheats - trust me as long as there is demand there will be people making cheats. Not even mentioning the fact that making cheats for a free game is easier than a paid one.
I don’t disagree but theoretically if it becomes harder to use cheats in general I’m hoping the demand will go down. But I don’t doubt some cheaters will always find a way but at least it will be easier for game mods to ban them quicker.
Been playing this since the very beginning. Cheating has never been worse, and is completely ruining the game sometimes. Maybe 2-3 times a week i just quit bc of too many cheaters
Yeahhhhhh, no. Lol If you want to go that route, you have to determine exactly what is considered software that can be used for cheating and then whether or not it was actually used for cheating. Outright banning cheating software is infringing on the rights of individuals to do what they please on their own personal systems. Then there's actually taking the time to take cheaters to court and prove beyond reasonable doubt that they were cheating. I think we have bigger fish to fry buddy.
@@johngaynor4363 Huh in China cheating in foreign games is promoted, one way to hinder others' gaming industry, and collect extra money from dealers. China is in deep shithole right now, cheating related to RMT is getting worse.
you see, the way anti-cheats work, or rather the way cheats work, makes it so that the anti-cheat developers will always be a step behind the cheat developers both cheat and anti-cheat programs are ultimately run on the client (the player's computer), it's a battle to see which program will execute first and attempt to bypass/neutralize the other the earlier the anti-cheat boots up, the more effective; valorant's anti-cheat is praised as one of the most effective because it has kernel access, meaning unlimited access to essentially everything on your computer so it can read every program you're running (and hence detect cheats). this has the obvious drawback of being a huge invasion of privacy. but even then it's not impossible to bypass: run your cheat program before your operating system boots (it's not easy, you have to understand your computer's architecture very well) it's still just a race to see whose program runs first, which the cheater can always win if they try hard enough, because its ultimately their computer, not the game developer's
I had last night in ground RB someone a level 100 but with barely any tanks used managed to snap onto me through smoke not ess which the moment I mentioned in chat someone said to stop complaining but then 4 others agreed with me that war thunder has become tiring with constant cheaters in nearly every match. The game is being ruined by cheaters who want to feel special playing top tier. I also saw a video by Europeancanadian talk about someone who used cheats and managed to get 50k kills using them.
The only Anti cheat working in WT is the sheer dedication of WT players reporting and reviewing replays. Adding Battle eye will not change cheating issue. Perhaps giving rewards to these "Dedicated" players fighting Gaming Chair enthusiasts to help boost Cheating reviewing and entice other ppl to fight cheating problem . :)
I don't think its going to solve anything. EAC is arguably harder to crack apparently, but the migration will mean that they may have to rework how their cheat bypasses anti-cheat.
battle eye feels unreliable and tbh I distrust most anticheats... I rather agree to selfmade own anticheat, but the issue of the snail is they gotta keep popping those updates, that's wherethe resources go. Best they can do rn is try not to be lazy and try to be more active regarding the reports ┐(´ー｀)┌ what can one do tho....
lmfao battleye is NOT the answer, do you guys remember the apex legends ALGS hack? the same guy who did that found an exploit in battleye that allowed him to ban anyone he wanted. not to mention the other games who use it which are plagued with cheaters like crazy
4:11 I know exactly who your talking about I've seen that dudes live he takes full ammo expecting to do something but ends up turning into a bomb😂 I don't blame him for cheating if he's that bad
people have bypassed battleye no problem, it's just a matter of time. Granted you have two methods you have to bypass, but still. Battlefield 3/4/2042 all have hackers out the ass depending on the time you play
Nah, I call bs. Gaijin says there's no cheating. Blah thousand hour players tell me there's no cheating. There's no cheating obviously, no matter how obvious there is a massive amount of cheating in the game.
Yall I think Im cooked, im afraid they will think Im cheating and ban my account even tho Im not (this week Ive been hitting crazy shots, some of them oneshots, through the smoke, but the ones that arent completely out of intuition aided by luck is bcs the enemies are a complete bafoon that drops the smoke and stays in the same place)
No, its not. Coming from R6S where ranked is infested with cheaters and casual is close behind, BattlEye is dogshit. Absolutely worthless, dare I say less than worthless.
It seems that you do not know why cheaters are in games usually, if a cheat is made for esp and gets detected and the account is instantly banned then the cheat makers have an easier way to know what they have to patch in their cheat and how to make the cheat more undetectable, same thing goes with if you have cheats and can't even enter the game because you use them means that again the cheat makers have an even easier time to understand what the issue is and make the cheats better. The reason many people are being banned at one point are because of banwaves, which are used in lots and lots of online games like for example Fortnite and GTA V Online because this makes it so that when the cheaters use their cheats and the cheat software makers test them they wouldn't immideatly know what the issue was or narrow down the issues faster, banwaves make it much harder and slower for cheat makers to update their cheat software. Hope you see this and have a great day.
Bullshit nearly everyone in late game uses cheats I have games where somone with 2 kills comming in with nukes matches lasting less than 3 minutes people with a wr of 90+ level 100 with nothing on their account and a 1 day play time level 2 with achievements of 8k+ kills people shooting through hills and buildings and I don’t mean the destructible ones I mean whole map it’s so fucking bad they are going through a class 3 lawsuit cause of how many people getting there accounts hacked into from cheaters as well
I agree I have been playing a long time but I think The cheating is more tanks. And I heard props. But I don't think I have ever seen cheats at top tier in AB RB or GRB
It is not easy to spot them just from the kill cam, you would have to go to replay and watch that one player. Most cheaters can use wallhacks or aimbots, but it doesnt make much difference if that one players isnt camping in godknows where. If it is CC you can hear them and with stereo audio & good enought headphones you can exactly pinpoint their location. Yes this isnt easy to learn, but with time comes skill. With aimbots it is a bit different, it gives them the few second/milisecond edge on shooting. For example, if you see each other from further away, the cheater will probably shoot first, however you will shoot miliseconds after him and from that distance you would(if aimed correctly) kill each other. Basicaly warthunder is different from other games, in other games if a cheater is good at hiding their cheats will probably win against most players; If he is obvious about it he will probably get banned; In wt there isnt any obvious cheat you can spot in game as you play, and most cheaters will hide the fact that they are cheating, but these cheats only enable them to match skilled players who know the mechanics, they cannot surpass them. Ive personaly played against one cheater i knew of and it was in CB. The cheat he was using made him aim dirrectly at the cannon barrel. I had no problem dealing with him.
haven't seen this much bullshit in a very long time. eac was introduced because gaijin banned a user who was using ultra low quality settings which didnt render part of a hill. because the moderator who watched his replay didnt use exactly the same graphics settings it looked like he was wallhacking. he was only unbanned because it went viral on reddit. additionally, eac is only being used as a supporting tool. for the love of god, please don't spread lies and make yourself comfortable with the lore before working on a video, and dont even bother about asking war thunder influencers for help. majority of them are the square through circle meme in terms of mechanics and other stuff about the game.
When did I say anything about why it was added? All I said was it was added 5 years ago lmao. Yes it’s being used as a “supporting tool” yet doesn’t actually accomplish anything. It should be catching most cheaters off the bat but it doesn’t seem to do that at all. If you want to point out specific “lies” go ahead lol, there aren’t any.
Don't bother, every game has least 2 rage hackers, 99% are chinese rmt cheaters, 1% it's russian, and many more cheaters pretend legit. Half of the active players are cheaters or bots. Looks like they got endless supplies of 10.0+ premium. And gaijin loves those cheaters, they spent real money.
cheating in WT is bottom of the barrel, imagine broadcasting how bad you are that you cant even handle a mid ahh tank game. These are the kind of people who cheated in minecraft battle royale
Nah, They were cheating in Minecraft peaceful mode because it was too difficult
more like they are tired of the grind, which I can only respect.. The current stage of the game is either quit or cheat
@@Hieltiik buddy ive played this game for 10 years and I dont cheat. People who cheat are new players who suck ass and wont bother learning in the first place. WT isnt even a hard game
wait you weren't cheating in minecraft battle royale? I remember in 2012 x-ray was the bare minimum needed to win
@@HieltiikI don't know about ground but air is so much more easy to grind than the community says.
TBH, the folding of the Asian servers into the current ones was a major contributing factor. Even if it’s only a few servers, it would be enough to keep the majority of cheating/bot accounts contained.
Is it painful for the legit players? Sadly, yes, but the only other option is for Gaijin to go to IP or kernal level measures.
imgine if they used some of the land they bought up near all our navel bases.
SA server is a ghost server since the beginning, Chinese cheaters drove normal players out, then cheaters "chase" to European, Russian and American servers to skip waiting time.
Oh man, just hearing the name battle eye makes me slightly mad. i have some terrible memories from my rainbow six seige days and the abundance of hackers plaguing it
The G91 AA NORD cheater will always be my favourite
That has to be the funniest thing I’ve seen even still, that video was hilarious
Which video was it?
@@rrrriajiii Gaijin pulled them off YT before it could spread, you can probably find an archive for it
It will never be solved, most likely Gajin themselves supplying the hacks as a sidebusiness
As someone who used to be in the CS:GO cheating community the only thing that the BattleEye will change is the price tag on those already available cheats - trust me as long as there is demand there will be people making cheats. Not even mentioning the fact that making cheats for a free game is easier than a paid one.
I don’t disagree but theoretically if it becomes harder to use cheats in general I’m hoping the demand will go down. But I don’t doubt some cheaters will always find a way but at least it will be easier for game mods to ban them quicker.
But CS2 is a competitive shooter and one of the most played game on pc. Warthunder doesn't have nearly that amount of demand for cheats.
Battleye will do absolutely nothing siege is unplayable tarkov is unplayable and there’s a million cheaters on dayz to online gaming is simply cooked
Been playing this since the very beginning. Cheating has never been worse, and is completely ruining the game sometimes. Maybe 2-3 times a week i just quit bc of too many cheaters
Battle eye is what they use for Escape from Tarkov…cheating isn’t going anywhere for online multiplayer.
No to sum up an answer quickly. No it’s not solved or almost solved.
Might be a hot take, but cheating in games and distributing cheats should be a federal crime 🤷🏻♂️
Honestly a great idea
Yes!
Activision already sued the hell out of one cheat maker and won, other publishers should follow suit.
Yeahhhhhh, no. Lol
If you want to go that route, you have to determine exactly what is considered software that can be used for cheating and then whether or not it was actually used for cheating. Outright banning cheating software is infringing on the rights of individuals to do what they please on their own personal systems. Then there's actually taking the time to take cheaters to court and prove beyond reasonable doubt that they were cheating.
I think we have bigger fish to fry buddy.
@@johngaynor4363 Huh in China cheating in foreign games is promoted, one way to hinder others' gaming industry, and collect extra money from dealers. China is in deep shithole right now, cheating related to RMT is getting worse.
they used to have an in house anti cheat but stoped devlopping it as they remplaced it by easyanticheat
you see, the way anti-cheats work, or rather the way cheats work, makes it so that the anti-cheat developers will always be a step behind the cheat developers
both cheat and anti-cheat programs are ultimately run on the client (the player's computer), it's a battle to see which program will execute first and attempt to bypass/neutralize the other
the earlier the anti-cheat boots up, the more effective; valorant's anti-cheat is praised as one of the most effective because it has kernel access, meaning unlimited access to essentially everything on your computer so it can read every program you're running (and hence detect cheats). this has the obvious drawback of being a huge invasion of privacy. but even then it's not impossible to bypass: run your cheat program before your operating system boots (it's not easy, you have to understand your computer's architecture very well)
it's still just a race to see whose program runs first, which the cheater can always win if they try hard enough, because its ultimately their computer, not the game developer's
I had last night in ground RB someone a level 100 but with barely any tanks used managed to snap onto me through smoke not ess which the moment I mentioned in chat someone said to stop complaining but then 4 others agreed with me that war thunder has become tiring with constant cheaters in nearly every match. The game is being ruined by cheaters who want to feel special playing top tier. I also saw a video by Europeancanadian talk about someone who used cheats and managed to get 50k kills using them.
The only Anti cheat working in WT is the sheer dedication of WT players reporting and reviewing replays. Adding Battle eye will not change cheating issue. Perhaps giving rewards to these "Dedicated" players fighting Gaming Chair enthusiasts to help boost Cheating reviewing and entice other ppl to fight cheating problem . :)
i have more info about this, cheat devs are not afraid of battleeye its quite the opposite most of them think its worth than eac so gl with tht
I don't think its going to solve anything. EAC is arguably harder to crack apparently, but the migration will mean that they may have to rework how their cheat bypasses anti-cheat.
90% linux support disappears
battle eye feels unreliable and tbh I distrust most anticheats... I rather agree to selfmade own anticheat, but the issue of the snail is they gotta keep popping those updates, that's wherethe resources go. Best they can do rn is try not to be lazy and try to be more active regarding the reports ┐(´ー｀)┌ what can one do tho....
lmfao battleye is NOT the answer, do you guys remember the apex legends ALGS hack? the same guy who did that found an exploit in battleye that allowed him to ban anyone he wanted. not to mention the other games who use it which are plagued with cheaters like crazy
Battleeye wont save this game
4:11 I know exactly who your talking about I've seen that dudes live he takes full ammo expecting to do something but ends up turning into a bomb😂 I don't blame him for cheating if he's that bad
Battleye will be defeated in less than a week in WT(prob day one). It doesn't work in any other game its in for any meaningful period of time.
Will be see less cheating from now on i guess
people have bypassed battleye no problem, it's just a matter of time. Granted you have two methods you have to bypass, but still. Battlefield 3/4/2042 all have hackers out the ass depending on the time you play
@@mischievous7129 clearly you did not see the joke, but also for the point on BE just look at R6S
Nah, I call bs.
Gaijin says there's no cheating.
Blah thousand hour players tell me there's no cheating.
There's no cheating obviously, no matter how obvious there is a massive amount of cheating in the game.
Please don’t add battle eye
Yall I think Im cooked, im afraid they will think Im cheating and ban my account even tho Im not (this week Ive been hitting crazy shots, some of them oneshots, through the smoke, but the ones that arent completely out of intuition aided by luck is bcs the enemies are a complete bafoon that drops the smoke and stays in the same place)
War thunder has a huge problem .
War Thunder the employees are the one who make the cheats....
It's a joke the company that's aIt's a Fix the problem
BE sucks too. Look how Tarkov is doing right now...
No, its not. Coming from R6S where ranked is infested with cheaters and casual is close behind, BattlEye is dogshit. Absolutely worthless, dare I say less than worthless.
It seems that you do not know why cheaters are in games usually, if a cheat is made for esp and gets detected and the account is instantly banned then the cheat makers have an easier way to know what they have to patch in their cheat and how to make the cheat more undetectable, same thing goes with if you have cheats and can't even enter the game because you use them means that again the cheat makers have an even easier time to understand what the issue is and make the cheats better.
The reason many people are being banned at one point are because of banwaves, which are used in lots and lots of online games like for example Fortnite and GTA V Online because this makes it so that when the cheaters use their cheats and the cheat software makers test them they wouldn't immideatly know what the issue was or narrow down the issues faster, banwaves make it much harder and slower for cheat makers to update their cheat software.
Hope you see this and have a great day.
i just got banned for my name and it was i like clash of clans and yett tthey cant ban cheaters
They can ban you for having femboy in your username.
Bullshit nearly everyone in late game uses cheats I have games where somone with 2 kills comming in with nukes matches lasting less than 3 minutes people with a wr of 90+ level 100 with nothing on their account and a 1 day play time level 2 with achievements of 8k+ kills people shooting through hills and buildings and I don’t mean the destructible ones I mean whole map it’s so fucking bad they are going through a class 3 lawsuit cause of how many people getting there accounts hacked into from cheaters as well
imma be honest, in 2k hours in this game i dont think I've ever encountered a cheater. And I hope I will not with battleye
I agree I have been playing a long time but I think The cheating is more tanks. And I heard props. But I don't think I have ever seen cheats at top tier in AB RB or GRB
no, Battleye is awful
im gonna be totally honest, in my 1300 hours of war thunder i have NEVER met a cheater
It is not easy to spot them just from the kill cam, you would have to go to replay and watch that one player. Most cheaters can use wallhacks or aimbots, but it doesnt make much difference if that one players isnt camping in godknows where. If it is CC you can hear them and with stereo audio & good enought headphones you can exactly pinpoint their location. Yes this isnt easy to learn, but with time comes skill. With aimbots it is a bit different, it gives them the few second/milisecond edge on shooting. For example, if you see each other from further away, the cheater will probably shoot first, however you will shoot miliseconds after him and from that distance you would(if aimed correctly) kill each other. Basicaly warthunder is different from other games, in other games if a cheater is good at hiding their cheats will probably win against most players; If he is obvious about it he will probably get banned; In wt there isnt any obvious cheat you can spot in game as you play, and most cheaters will hide the fact that they are cheating, but these cheats only enable them to match skilled players who know the mechanics, they cannot surpass them. Ive personaly played against one cheater i knew of and it was in CB. The cheat he was using made him aim dirrectly at the cannon barrel. I had no problem dealing with him.
i promise that you have lol
Well if you see a Chinese username it’s a botter or cheater
Don’t use cheats, but here’s a list of cheats and how much they cost
SMH
haven't seen this much bullshit in a very long time.
eac was introduced because gaijin banned a user who was using ultra low quality settings which didnt render part of a hill. because the moderator who watched his replay didnt use exactly the same graphics settings it looked like he was wallhacking. he was only unbanned because it went viral on reddit.
additionally, eac is only being used as a supporting tool.
for the love of god, please don't spread lies and make yourself comfortable with the lore before working on a video, and dont even bother about asking war thunder influencers for help. majority of them are the square through circle meme in terms of mechanics and other stuff about the game.
When did I say anything about why it was added? All I said was it was added 5 years ago lmao. Yes it’s being used as a “supporting tool” yet doesn’t actually accomplish anything. It should be catching most cheaters off the bat but it doesn’t seem to do that at all. If you want to point out specific “lies” go ahead lol, there aren’t any.
Don't bother, every game has least 2 rage hackers, 99% are chinese rmt cheaters, 1% it's russian, and many more cheaters pretend legit. Half of the active players are cheaters or bots. Looks like they got endless supplies of 10.0+ premium. And gaijin loves those cheaters, they spent real money.
That cheater just try to get attention and sell more hax, and you are helping him. Got paid from him too?
I literally shit talked them the entire video what are you talking about lmfao. Did you not hear me say various times I don’t like cheaters?