I read between the lines that Ukraine and many citizens around the world would have loved to have seen NATO forego accession rules for Ukraine and immediately make them NATO members from today. That would suddenly pit NATO against Russia and Putin's reaction would not be a sane reaction. NATO is still not prepared yet for a full-scale WW3 in terms of weapons, ammunition, manpower or logistics. I see the method to their decisions in that NATO needs to help Ukraine win and to force Russia to capitulate, whilst buying time to build NATO to the point of being able to wage a full-scale war with Russia or even China.
You are out of your mind. The intention is to stop Russia progress of decimating nations under their oligarchic rule and autocracy. No one wants to start a skirmish with Russia but we can't let Russia have Ukraine. Those are the terms.
Agree with your first points, but the last thing NATO wants is a full scale war against Russia. As for China nobody in their right mind is going to launch a full-scale war against China.
Full scale war with Russia has been possible for years, not sure what buildup your talking about. Why would NATO openly fight Russia when they can accomplish their goals without doing so? Why would NATO engage in a war and allow China the opportunity to attack Taiwan? NATO does not add members to weaken themselves. Ukraine is welcome to join post war.
what you say is half true, the wrong part is.. NATO dont want to cause a WW3 and to ground zero Russia as much as have casualties all over the world... Russia wouldnt even last one week without a massive use of nuclear weapons.
Why won't Stoltenberg answer the question on what the conditions are? I imagine the war ending and democratisation of the country being two, but why is he so hesitant to outline those conditions?
If I were Putin, I would see the writing on the wall. I would feel deflated and begin to think about how to get out of this mess: the whole world posed against me.
Let's be blunt, NATO wont commit to a time frame for Ukraine to join because if Russian forces don't leave Ukraine, then NATO will either have to break its promise or fight Russian forces directly. No doubt this made some in NATO nervous.
Surely NATO can afford to place 4 available microphones in four corners of the room so one guy doesn't have to squeeze through the chairs to get to the intended speaker.
We all understand that Ukraine needs military, financial, practical and hands-on help in every problem war causes and I'm sure Nato will provide that, just like te EU will speed up their proces of accession. The shortest 'timeframe' towards Nato was met by Finland, within 14 months. Nato won't permit that Russia prolongs the war in order to hinder its accession. That has been taken into consideration, as is a possible change in government in the USA
Mention of Asia and of Europe joining on the international stage is very nice. The world is coming together and this agreement makes exceptional promises for peace. ❤
Jens Stoltenberg is a fine politician and a skillful diplomat.
all the best
God bless Jens Stoltenberg. What a tough job and how he carries it with grace. Also God bless Ukraine.
Welcome Finland 🇫🇮 🇺🇸. Strong alliance in Nato.🌏
Awesome news 👍. Great to hear deeper cooperation between Ukraine & NATO 🇸🇰 🇪🇺 ❤ 🇺🇦.
Congrats vladi, you got what you wanted👍🇳🇴🙏🇺🇦😊
sweden, finland, military alliance with ukraine lol vlads crying
The world iis happy!!! What a lovely day
I read between the lines that Ukraine and many citizens around the world would have loved to have seen NATO forego accession rules for Ukraine and immediately make them NATO members from today. That would suddenly pit NATO against Russia and Putin's reaction would not be a sane reaction. NATO is still not prepared yet for a full-scale WW3 in terms of weapons, ammunition, manpower or logistics. I see the method to their decisions in that NATO needs to help Ukraine win and to force Russia to capitulate, whilst buying time to build NATO to the point of being able to wage a full-scale war with Russia or even China.
You are out of your mind. The intention is to stop Russia progress of decimating nations under their oligarchic rule and autocracy. No one wants to start a skirmish with Russia but we can't let Russia have Ukraine. Those are the terms.
Agree with your first points, but the last thing NATO wants is a full scale war against Russia. As for China nobody in their right mind is going to launch a full-scale war against China.
Full scale war with Russia has been possible for years, not sure what buildup your talking about. Why would NATO openly fight Russia when they can accomplish their goals without doing so? Why would NATO engage in a war and allow China the opportunity to attack Taiwan? NATO does not add members to weaken themselves. Ukraine is welcome to join post war.
what you say is half true, the wrong part is.. NATO dont want to cause a WW3 and to ground zero Russia as much as have casualties all over the world... Russia wouldnt even last one week without a massive use of nuclear weapons.
Who wants full scale war?
Why won't Stoltenberg answer the question on what the conditions are?
I imagine the war ending and democratisation of the country being two, but why is he so hesitant to outline those conditions?
If I were Putin, I would see the writing on the wall. I would feel deflated and begin to think about how to get out of this mess: the whole world posed against me.
Grant Ukraine the status of an associate member of NATO and issue an ultimatum to Muscovy to get out of this country. Tomorrow.
Congratulations 🎉to Finland ❤
Let's be blunt, NATO wont commit to a time frame for Ukraine to join because if Russian forces don't leave Ukraine, then NATO will either have to break its promise or fight Russian forces directly. No doubt this made some in NATO nervous.
Surely NATO can afford to place 4 available microphones in four corners of the room so one guy doesn't have to squeeze through the chairs to get to the intended speaker.
What is best for Russia I may ask? Join NATO and let peace spread accross the world!!
Me gusta mucho🎉
Good man to have at the helm of NATO at this point in history and it is a very difficult chapter. Go Ukraine!
NATO should help close the Ukrainian skies to help safe lives from the reckless airstrike from the Russian aggressors. UKRAINIAN lives matter
We all understand that Ukraine needs military, financial, practical and hands-on help in every problem war causes and I'm sure Nato will provide that, just like te EU will speed up their proces of accession. The shortest 'timeframe' towards Nato was met by Finland, within 14 months. Nato won't permit that Russia prolongs the war in order to hinder its accession. That has been taken into consideration, as is a possible change in government in the USA
When did Georgia enter Nato
Come on Georgia
this decision for Ukraine to join NATO should be decided fast,because Russia is determined to destroy Ukraine at all cost
Mention of Asia and of Europe joining on the international stage is very nice. The world is coming together and this agreement makes exceptional promises for peace. ❤