I can report that the TEAMGROUP MP44Q 1TB SLC Cache Gen 4x4 M.2 works on the nvme base. I also got it installed with the full install of the GeeekPi ICE Tower Plus cooler...just had to order some longer M2.5 screws. I also switched out their standoffs with ones that were about 1-2mm shorter for a better connection to the components on the board...works great!
Dang, I just built my Pi5 tower system yesterday. And now I see there is a even bigger cooler for a resonable price 👀 I was planning to slap a Noctua NF-A4x10 5vPWM on my ice tower xD
@@Slifer.GameDev I think recycling a used SFF PC from "your favourite auction site" that is cheaper, more powerful, more portable and keeps an old computer out of landfill is way "cooler" than just buying a now overpriced Pi and copying what's in videos on YT - not that I personally need to appear outwardly "cool" to others with the computers I use because I don't go on Reddit with all the poseurs anyway. From my perspective, if you have to buy PCs with glass sides just to pay good money to stick LEDs inside them just to brag to your mates on social media, you probably need some self-assertion therapy. And a big cooling fan that makes a small and portable computer into one that is a lot bigger and less portable just because the gamer community is obsessed with numbers and constantly plays "Computer Top Trumps" with itself ("highest FPS", "most Ryzen cores", "highest CPU clock frequency", etc. etc.) seems a bit pointless to be honest - particularly when it raises the price of the cheapest Pi 5 "trying to be a desktop replacement" well over £100 when it's possible to by two (cased with fans) SFF PCs with Core i5 or i7 CPUs and at least 4GB RAM for the same money.
Currently I have a noisy $9 usb fan and the active cooler keeping my pi5 around 39C idling overclocked at 2800 . Prior with just the ACooler it idled at 50C no overclocking, which was too hot for my liking. I like this larger ice tower, so I’m giving it a try. I can use the usb fan elsewhere I’m only out the $5 for the active cooler. Thank you
An interesting video thanks, but I think it's a shame you didn't test with the hardware provided. It's less useful for people like me who don't have a previous ice tower with the shorter stand offs.
So what you are saying is that before he makes his next video, he has to come to you first to check that he only uses the components in his video that you currently possess? All I can say is that it's a shame that for many commenters on YT, the amount of self awareness they possess seems inversely proportional to how self-entitled they appear.
@@TomMannCenturia You're welcome to react as you please without any requirement to inform me of that reaction - but I still think your comment was extremely self-entitled in its nuance and someone with more self awareness would have perhaps read it a few more times before posting it to see that for themselves. As someone happy to describe himself as a "boomer" with a long career in IT and computing, it never ceases to amaze me how so many of you in the younger generations lack the attention spans or critical thinking skills to "have a go yourself" while reading a few books or web pages as guides, as opposed to simply following step-by-step videos that completely leave you angry and confused because it doesn't show exactly what you need it to - despite Lee here working bloody hard to make his content and you showing zero gratitude as well. "It's less useful for people like me" - yes, they're called "lazy". My point is made, you run along now, discussion closed.
@@terrydaktyllus1320as a reviewer, he SHOULD initially test with only what is provided in the buy. Then, he can start “modifying”, to se if it can be improved.
Lee thanks for the new product review which looks like it should work well in hotter climates such as my home of Tucson, Arizona! 52 PI should re-name their company to: 52 Pick-Up after the 1st card game that I learned to play…😢…😂! Have a great day!
This cooler seems bad. Pad is isolating compared to copper/alu so direct contact is essential. If they would have made the cooler 90degree for passive cooling with larger spacing this thing would be good enough without the fan. You can get similar type coolers for m.2 from Ali for dirt cheap now and just mod them on the Pi. They even sell copper stacks in different thicknesses so you can use those as a spacer from the chip up above the gpio pins and the ports. And they you can put whatever cooler you want on top.
Gonna have to get one and try to find a pi that clocks higher to test it. My only working pi 5 with an overclock only goes to 3GHZ. Also, I’ve found that running an ai gets it much hotter than most of the other things I use my pi for.
Why not heating up both CPU and GPU at the same time? Extreme test at the same time: stress-ng -c 0 // stresses a CPU + glmark2 -b terrain --run-forever // stresses a GPU Running both together at the same time should heat both CPU and GPU to the max. This would show a maximum temperature after about 6-7 minutes i guess, in case of WITH FAN. Or somewhat longer WITHOUT FAN, maybe 10-15 minutes. Such extreme test is the best if run for about 10-15 minutes, to check if certain OC is actually stable 😉 Also is interesting to check in such scenario how watts usage changes from the wall, when overvolting/overclocking 😊 Problem of fanless solutions is that heat goes down way slower, than with fan... so for that having a near silent fan is always recommended. Bigger fan is better i guess, because IF it is of lower RPM, lower decibels - lower noice level
Hi, I just got a pi 5 8gb, I'm just wondering which powered usb hub you are using please as there are good and bad one's and I didnt see a link on your list of amazon links so, wondering where you got yours please if its not from amazon?
It’s an orico hub doesn’t seem to be listed anymore This is the same range amzn.to/3VCI5mg Here is the actual one www.orico.cc/us/product/detail/7908.html
Strange design by 52Pi... That part above the CPU should be lowered like the part where it makes contact with the power chip, to properly cool the RAM and RP1 chips with the provided thermal pads (or they should include some thicker pads). I really like 52Pi products but this looks unfinished.
If you would not overclock them so much the large cooling would not be needed. So making the small single boards so much larger... Does not overclocking shorten the life of tht board? No matter, you replace them so quickly. Can we afford to replace them so often???
This is my core point that I keep making now. Originally a Pi was a small portable computer you could stick in your pocket and carry it down to your electronics workbench to do some circuitry work and a bit of programming - or put it in front of a schoolkid for them to learn a bit of programming. When it cost £35 to do that, it wasn't much of an issue if you blew it up. The cheapest Pi 5 now is £80 and you still need to add cooling, a PSU and a case on top of that - which is going to take you to £100 or so. I can pick up a used SFF PC with a 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 and 4 or 8GB RAM in a cooled case for around £30 now. Plus it will have more CPU power than a Pi, albeit you can't put that Windows 11 rubbish on it, but that's no loss to anyone. Why would you buy a Pi 5 (that is trying to now be a desktop replacement) that is more expensive than a used but better desktop machine? The Pi (and SBCs in general) have completely lost direction, except for the "Zero" format boards that are still around £20 and fine for putting in your pocket or doing electronics work with them - or giving them to a kid.
@@terrydaktyllus1320RPiLocator show the cheapest RPi5 @ $60US for the 4GB It also show the RPi4 1GB @ $35US. BTW, the Raspberry Pi debut price was $35. RPi1 256MB. Tuesday, June 04, 2024
@@ernestgalvan9037 So what? I can still get a used SFF PC with case and cooling easily for the equivalent of $60. The original Raspberry Pi here in the UK was £35. Don't try to be clever, you just look more stupid.
@@ernestgalvan9037"Overclocking ‘shortens the life’? Don’t overclock yours. Simple. RPi5 8GB ‘too expensive’? Buy a RPi4 1GB. Simple." What point have you actually answered there? You simply admitted that he's probably right and you've given some alternative solutions... but when I gave alternative solutions to using a Pi 5, you criticised them. Explain how that works.
This is all good stuff and thank you for taking the time to review it - but there was me buying my first Raspberry Pi back in 2011 thinking "Oooh! What a great little portable computer that I can stick in my pocket and bring out as necessary" - and now everyone is sticking on gigantic coolers or PCI-E GPUs onto their Pi's to make the portability factor a thing of the past. Like I keep saying, the whole SBC "fashion" has lost direction now - cheap £35 boards to stick on an electronics workbench or give to a kid to learn programming was great back then, but no longer, unless you stick with the "Zero" format boards which are still around £20 and very portable - but most people don't want those because they constantly want "more power" because, in their minds, SBCs have to become desktop replacements that are ultimately more expensive than used SFF desktops on our favourite auction site.
@@GustavoMsTrashCan I think it lost its niche after the Pi 3, to be honest. When the Pi 3 came out, it was still being offered as a £35 computer with the Pi Zero still being around £5. It was the Pi 4 that brought in multiple memory configuration options and that's when the price increases started to come. I know the pandemic hit soon after which resulted in higher chip prices (that should have reverted to near normal by now anyway, were it not for greedy corporations) but that's when prices got "silly" - and the Pi priced itself out of what it was originally designed to be (a cheap computer for programming, Linux learning, IoT and electronics interfacing) at a time when lots of people were dumping old PCs onto auction sites because of the rush to upgrade to Windows 11.
I can report that the TEAMGROUP MP44Q 1TB SLC Cache Gen 4x4 M.2 works on the nvme base. I also got it installed with the full install of the GeeekPi ICE Tower Plus cooler...just had to order some longer M2.5 screws. I also switched out their standoffs with ones that were about 1-2mm shorter for a better connection to the components on the board...works great!
Dang, I just built my Pi5 tower system yesterday. And now I see there is a even bigger cooler for a resonable price 👀
I was planning to slap a Noctua NF-A4x10 5vPWM on my ice tower xD
Would be nice to have a video showing what cases will work with that cooler.
None that I have at this time
You could just stick in a bucket with a handle and maintain your "portability" that way.
Lol idk why but i love it even if its unnecesary
Same here. It just looks really cool!
it's a men toy so ... but seriously it's should be small and portable, this cooler make it's so much bigger than it's should be.
@@hiepbenh88 its just looks good its cool to see this even if its not great for a portable device anf rpi 5 isnt only a portable device
@@Slifer.GameDev I think recycling a used SFF PC from "your favourite auction site" that is cheaper, more powerful, more portable and keeps an old computer out of landfill is way "cooler" than just buying a now overpriced Pi and copying what's in videos on YT - not that I personally need to appear outwardly "cool" to others with the computers I use because I don't go on Reddit with all the poseurs anyway.
From my perspective, if you have to buy PCs with glass sides just to pay good money to stick LEDs inside them just to brag to your mates on social media, you probably need some self-assertion therapy.
And a big cooling fan that makes a small and portable computer into one that is a lot bigger and less portable just because the gamer community is obsessed with numbers and constantly plays "Computer Top Trumps" with itself ("highest FPS", "most Ryzen cores", "highest CPU clock frequency", etc. etc.) seems a bit pointless to be honest - particularly when it raises the price of the cheapest Pi 5 "trying to be a desktop replacement" well over £100 when it's possible to by two (cased with fans) SFF PCs with Core i5 or i7 CPUs and at least 4GB RAM for the same money.
@@hiepbenh88 Bigger is better. Isn't that what they always say? Go big or go home. Right? haha
Currently I have a noisy $9 usb fan and the active cooler keeping my pi5 around 39C idling overclocked at 2800 . Prior with just the ACooler it idled at 50C no overclocking, which was too hot for my liking. I like this larger ice tower, so I’m giving it a try. I can use the usb fan elsewhere I’m only out the $5 for the active cooler. Thank you
An interesting video thanks, but I think it's a shame you didn't test with the hardware provided. It's less useful for people like me who don't have a previous ice tower with the shorter stand offs.
So what you are saying is that before he makes his next video, he has to come to you first to check that he only uses the components in his video that you currently possess? All I can say is that it's a shame that for many commenters on YT, the amount of self awareness they possess seems inversely proportional to how self-entitled they appear.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I'll take some time to reflect on your very important intervention. Thanks for making RUclips comments a better place.
@@TomMannCenturia You're welcome to react as you please without any requirement to inform me of that reaction - but I still think your comment was extremely self-entitled in its nuance and someone with more self awareness would have perhaps read it a few more times before posting it to see that for themselves.
As someone happy to describe himself as a "boomer" with a long career in IT and computing, it never ceases to amaze me how so many of you in the younger generations lack the attention spans or critical thinking skills to "have a go yourself" while reading a few books or web pages as guides, as opposed to simply following step-by-step videos that completely leave you angry and confused because it doesn't show exactly what you need it to - despite Lee here working bloody hard to make his content and you showing zero gratitude as well.
"It's less useful for people like me" - yes, they're called "lazy".
My point is made, you run along now, discussion closed.
@@terrydaktyllus1320as a reviewer, he SHOULD initially test with only what is provided in the buy.
Then, he can start “modifying”, to se if it can be improved.
@@ernestgalvan9037 Don't be so self-entitled. It's his channel. He can make what videos he wants to. Grow up.
Lee thanks for the new product review which looks like it should work well in hotter climates such as my home of Tucson, Arizona!
52 PI should re-name their company to: 52 Pick-Up after the 1st card game that I learned to play…😢…😂!
Have a great day!
This cooler seems bad. Pad is isolating compared to copper/alu so direct contact is essential. If they would have made the cooler 90degree for passive cooling with larger spacing this thing would be good enough without the fan. You can get similar type coolers for m.2 from Ali for dirt cheap now and just mod them on the Pi. They even sell copper stacks in different thicknesses so you can use those as a spacer from the chip up above the gpio pins and the ports. And they you can put whatever cooler you want on top.
Gonna have to get one and try to find a pi that clocks higher to test it. My only working pi 5 with an overclock only goes to 3GHZ. Also, I’ve found that running an ai gets it much hotter than most of the other things I use my pi for.
Why not heating up both CPU and GPU at the same time? Extreme test at the same time:
stress-ng -c 0 // stresses a CPU
+
glmark2 -b terrain --run-forever // stresses a GPU
Running both together at the same time should heat both CPU and GPU to the max. This would show a maximum temperature after about 6-7 minutes i guess, in case of WITH FAN. Or somewhat longer WITHOUT FAN, maybe 10-15 minutes.
Such extreme test is the best if run for about 10-15 minutes, to check if certain OC is actually stable 😉
Also is interesting to check in such scenario how watts usage changes from the wall, when overvolting/overclocking 😊
Problem of fanless solutions is that heat goes down way slower, than with fan... so for that having a near silent fan is always recommended. Bigger fan is better i guess, because IF it is of lower RPM, lower decibels - lower noice level
Absolute newbie here i would love to see how to install the psensor app
@@dancalhoun7011 sudo apt install psensor
Have you seen the Argon R60 cooler?
I have an old freezer, I could make a cooler for Pi.
Will 52pi make a BIG tower case soon ?
@@AbeStephan I hope so
@@leepspvideo wonder if Etsy's Esoteric Avenue guy has a 3D print case ? He made the 3D bottom print for your pi 400
What’s up with the blue heat-sinks on the bottom , with the rubber feet attached
I showed it at the start of this video, just to give the name some space
ruclips.net/video/RvcwV3YlNPI/видео.htmlsi=WGewjjTPWY_n9fbz
Hi, I just got a pi 5 8gb, I'm just wondering which powered usb hub you are using please as there are good and bad one's and I didnt see a link on your list of amazon links so, wondering where you got yours please if its not from amazon?
It’s an orico hub doesn’t seem to be listed anymore
This is the same range
amzn.to/3VCI5mg
Here is the actual one
www.orico.cc/us/product/detail/7908.html
Do you have a link to the larger ICE Tower Cooler? I checked all of them (USA site) and none are for it.
amzn.to/4bBzUfn
Thanks,@@leepspvideo. Does the large fan fit into that nice case? It seems like there's room when the smaller Ice Cooler is mounted.
@@donpeer4477 it’s about 2mm too tall
Strange design by 52Pi... That part above the CPU should be lowered like the part where it makes contact with the power chip, to properly cool the RAM and RP1 chips with the provided thermal pads (or they should include some thicker pads). I really like 52Pi products but this looks unfinished.
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If you would not overclock them so much the large cooling would not be needed. So making the small single boards so much larger...
Does not overclocking shorten the life of tht board? No matter, you replace them so quickly. Can we afford to replace them so often???
This is my core point that I keep making now.
Originally a Pi was a small portable computer you could stick in your pocket and carry it down to your electronics workbench to do some circuitry work and a bit of programming - or put it in front of a schoolkid for them to learn a bit of programming. When it cost £35 to do that, it wasn't much of an issue if you blew it up.
The cheapest Pi 5 now is £80 and you still need to add cooling, a PSU and a case on top of that - which is going to take you to £100 or so. I can pick up a used SFF PC with a 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 and 4 or 8GB RAM in a cooled case for around £30 now. Plus it will have more CPU power than a Pi, albeit you can't put that Windows 11 rubbish on it, but that's no loss to anyone.
Why would you buy a Pi 5 (that is trying to now be a desktop replacement) that is more expensive than a used but better desktop machine? The Pi (and SBCs in general) have completely lost direction, except for the "Zero" format boards that are still around £20 and fine for putting in your pocket or doing electronics work with them - or giving them to a kid.
@@terrydaktyllus1320RPiLocator show the cheapest RPi5 @ $60US for the 4GB
It also show the RPi4 1GB @ $35US.
BTW, the Raspberry Pi debut price was $35. RPi1 256MB.
Tuesday, June 04, 2024
Overclocking ‘shortens the life’?
Don’t overclock yours. Simple.
RPi5 8GB ‘too expensive’?
Buy a RPi4 1GB. Simple.
@@ernestgalvan9037 So what? I can still get a used SFF PC with case and cooling easily for the equivalent of $60.
The original Raspberry Pi here in the UK was £35. Don't try to be clever, you just look more stupid.
@@ernestgalvan9037"Overclocking ‘shortens the life’?
Don’t overclock yours. Simple.
RPi5 8GB ‘too expensive’?
Buy a RPi4 1GB. Simple."
What point have you actually answered there?
You simply admitted that he's probably right and you've given some alternative solutions... but when I gave alternative solutions to using a Pi 5, you criticised them.
Explain how that works.
This is all good stuff and thank you for taking the time to review it - but there was me buying my first Raspberry Pi back in 2011 thinking "Oooh! What a great little portable computer that I can stick in my pocket and bring out as necessary" - and now everyone is sticking on gigantic coolers or PCI-E GPUs onto their Pi's to make the portability factor a thing of the past.
Like I keep saying, the whole SBC "fashion" has lost direction now - cheap £35 boards to stick on an electronics workbench or give to a kid to learn programming was great back then, but no longer, unless you stick with the "Zero" format boards which are still around £20 and very portable - but most people don't want those because they constantly want "more power" because, in their minds, SBCs have to become desktop replacements that are ultimately more expensive than used SFF desktops on our favourite auction site.
Indeed. Anything after the rpi 4 has lost its "niche" in favor of more power.
@@GustavoMsTrashCan I think it lost its niche after the Pi 3, to be honest.
When the Pi 3 came out, it was still being offered as a £35 computer with the Pi Zero still being around £5.
It was the Pi 4 that brought in multiple memory configuration options and that's when the price increases started to come. I know the pandemic hit soon after which resulted in higher chip prices (that should have reverted to near normal by now anyway, were it not for greedy corporations) but that's when prices got "silly" - and the Pi priced itself out of what it was originally designed to be (a cheap computer for programming, Linux learning, IoT and electronics interfacing) at a time when lots of people were dumping old PCs onto auction sites because of the rush to upgrade to Windows 11.
@@terrydaktyllus1320well, again…
RPiLocator show RPi4 1GB @ $35US.
RPi5 8GB ‘too expensive’?
Buy a RPi4 1GB
Tuesday, June 04, 2024