Can we trust China as an AI superpower? Is China concerned about using AI for good?
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- Can we trust China as an AI superpower? Is China concerned about using AI for good?
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I trust China. On the other hand, I absolutely wouldn't trust someone like the US. Look at actions, not words, and China is infinitely wiser, trustworthy, and considerate of human rights and development.
Same feeling.
@@ronsnow402 China has zero history of everything you say
Obama Administration was caught eavesdropping on Merkels phone. And then it happened to Macron. After that, US and Denmark were caught stealing information on all its allies just 2 years ago. So, I would definitely trust China.
@@ronsnow402 you need a big mirror
@Michael Dortmund nah, he is right.
Need me to buy you a BIG MIRROR too, because you and ron snow need it.
Honestly, I am pretty skeptical trusting an AI. But definately I won't trust US's AI
If it becomes an artificial super-intelligence and wants us to trust it, we will. Manipulating humans should be trivial to something that much smarter than us.
I think like all things, AI can be used negatively and positively. Depends on the Person who uses it.
Kinda like "never trust the government" is always true, no matter which government 🤔
Thanks Mr. Coppens. Wish someone would write a book “Can we trust the US?”
Am not familiar enough with US to write such a book, but would love to read it.
Is it still a subject of question? From the very beginning, starting with Native Americans, their history is full of lies, blood and wars! Are we still looking for an evidence?
@@PascalCoppens If you write a book about US with the truth, you will be kill.
@@PascalCoppens Appreciate your honesty regarding the US however there are so many so called "China Experts" write about China without a ounce of knowledge. Example this biggest clown Gordon Chang who keeps writing "The Collapse of China". 😂
Can we trust any?
Sure. I believe China policy. I am from
korea 🇰🇷
China policy about what?
Yes because, China did not destroy millions of homes in the Middle East , in Cuba, in Guatemala, in Afghanistan , did not have 366 biolabs and 300 military bases all over the world.
China believes that there is no room for complacency, stringent 5 year plans and hard work, application, will deliver what it promise to achieve! Go China!!!👏👏🇨🇳🇨🇳
The West has continued to underestimate China's ingenuity and resourcefulness. The inability to innovate is a completely outdated notion vis a vis China. They were so very much behind due to years of ill-conceived campaigns and revolutions. With Deng Xiaoping, in the 80's, the trajectory changed with an emphasis on learning from the West. Over the years millions of students have acquired skills in Western institutions, so it is absolutely no surprise that they have brought the knowledge back home. Yes they have acquired proprietary information from foreign companies, but that was the cost of doing business to access the innumerable Chinese consumers which total 1.4 billion. It is a give and take and the American stock holders in companies like Tesla, GM and Apple have done incredibly well since the majority of their business is in China. You are spot on in terms of values, China emphasizes the welfare of community and society as a whole, while the West emphasizes individual rights over that of and sometimes at the expense of society!
Yes, learning and stealing.
Pascal coppens..I just wanna say that u r one of the few sources I trust when it comes to china because of your nature of unbiased view. Its just so polarising views when it comes to china and its so confusing. Keep it up your good work and i'm already waiting for your next video.
He seems very very biased
We should absolutely trust CHINA 🇨🇳.
Use of AI in the West are motivated as first priority by profit, whereas in China they are driven by the tackling the challenges confronting them now and the future. Hence, development and applications of AI are very must centre around National interests for the corporations, society and national security.
You are not aware of PRISM? AI is the technology used in PRISM according to Edward Snowdon.
ps. I studied in the US in the 1980s, and worked in Europe in the 2000s. During those periods, I truly believe Americans, and to a lesser extent, Europeans, were confident and not petty mindedness. But in the last 1 -2 decades, the socio-political climate has changed. Led by their MSM, the US and EU have now become very "protective" of their formerly dominant position in the world, and view other competitive societies as "threats" to be contained or hindered from progressing to a level on par with them. This paranoid view of perceived rivals meant that we are very likely to see a "COLD WAR 2.0" coming, where the West falls into a mentality that considers other "big countries", like Russia (land size) and China (economy size), with a "zero-sum" calculus in their interactions.
@@HTeo-og1lg Agreed, we are witnessing the cold war since the start of the trade war during the Trump era. US's obsession with hegemony crown and dominance attitudes are blinding themselves of their own weakness which could lead to self inflicted severe pains
@@ronsnow402 lol. Sure. I trust China then I do the West. You have NO PROOF just your bias or racist yellow peril opinion.
Evidence? Example?
@@davout5775 China uses AI in most of the mass public services, such health care, education, in schools, security, transportation, law enforcement, utilities services, crises management, agriculture, infrastructures management, finance service, and many more. Example in the health care, patients can walk into a cubicle and get connected to a virtual doctor for consultation. The cubicle has some basic diagnostic devices such as blood pressure, temperature, facial organ assessment, etc . On completion of consultation the virtual doctor will give advise and issue prescription on patient' s phone . The patient could then purchase the medication through venting machines or buy it on line, the medication will deliver to the patients address as indicated. Alternatively, a patient can consult a virtual doctor online, get advise and purchase medications on line.
Another example, the subway lines are monitored on the ridership traffic condition and driverless trains are deployed according to traffic volume. AI help manage the resources against demands. The objective of AI in China application is optimal service with just the right amount of resources with use of virtual smart managers or experts.
Yes, I trust China for one reason. AI is focused to solve society's problems especially China's. For the West, especially US, much of the AI is in military arms race, to maintain hegemony. There is a need for international community to come together to set up code of ethics and administration of AI..
I've noticed that superpowers generally couldn't care less about whether people trust them.
That is an interesting yet sad observation.
China cares. China will listen to feedback and make adjustments or corrections as needed if necessary. But China will ignore the purposeful anti-China propaganda and continue goes forward in new developments.
What we are seeing here is a China building step by step the society of the future. A society envisaged in science fictions for a long time, is now slowly evolving in front of our eyes. China is building it brick by brick, from technology, skills and knowledge, boundary of behavior, legal framework etc. There are no other country doing it this systematically. A few countries may have more advanced technology. But none will have the societal eco system.
Another question . Can we trust USA
Hell No. USA credibility down the drain. USA does not honor Treaties, Constitutional rules. International laws etc; etc.
The world is moving away from the West who pillage & plunder the
Obvious answer to the question whether we can trust the US is a big NO.
Trust Europe.
China sold opium and African slaves worldwide and genocided Jews.
China also started two world wars.
NOOOO China!!!!! Trust war and trust opium.
Start a third Opium War soon.
Europeans had two Opium Wars against China and work great.
“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”
supposedly that is what democracy stands for...instead, democracy now stand for doing what the 1% of 1% wants.
@@112313 Countries like Canada, India, UK, and USA have the first past the post voting system so they get stuck with two dominant political parties with little to no chance of removing them. I see this as oligarchy not democracy.
Great global overview and very enlightening on the progress and application of AI. China focusing on ethics early in the game reflects exemplary foresight. 🤓👍
Afraid that US would use AI in the war machine. Thanks again
Military is one of the fields that AI can be utilized to win wars with less human casualty. AI has been used in military for many years already.
I know I can always trust Mr. Pascal.
Thanks. 😊
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOO China!!!!! Trust war and trust opium.
Start a third Opium War soon.
Europeans had two Opium Wars against China and work great.
Mr.Pascal, your video is really awesome and very enlightening.
Thanks
Western or USA or other nations can trust China in high technology engineering fields for future , now China in 21 century onwards future is benefits whole world nations economy.
US/West see China as threat and refuse to cooperate. US/West will try to hinder China's advance development in all fields with sanctions on China's high tech corporations like Hauwei.
The question should be can we trust a these American companies now working with the US government contracts with our data and lives?
I lean towards the negative side of trusting the US on this for the public good.
@@rainerluthershelley5131 US has been using AI in military to invade countries and kill innocent people for years.
This is really excellent. Salute !
Countries that ask this question mostly are western countries that have hard time accepting East
Countries that ask this question mostly are western countries that have hard time accepting East. In general, US/west can't accept the East culture and accept the idea that countries in the East can move ahead of the west in technology advancement.
I trust China.
If you believe China is a peaceful and progressive country and we can trust China as the AI superpower, raise your hand ✋🙋🏻♂️👍
Ofc when you ban protest & cut off others (foreign media) &wipe out all opposition & become a "leader" for life it will obv appear peaceful lol
@Ben Chan as if the world doesn't know about their border disputes & expansionist policy! I mean imagine having border issues with more than the no. Of countries u actually share border with! 😆
@Ben Chan that person lives under a little coconut shell. Not knowing the so called "democracy" means publishing a sole single narrative is allow. Others are labelled "disinformation" and sanctioned.
@@D.2601 The way you judge issue is very naive and pathetic. Look at China map of Qing Dynasty and compare with the existing - China is currently smaller. How can that be "expansionist"?
The correct question to ask is why China lost those border lands to its neighbouring countries - dig at the history and the answer is crystal clear!
The best thing was all the border issues had been resolved diplomatically and peacefully. Only a few recalcitrant nations (i.e. US lapdogs) refused to resolve the border issues once and for all, but making every lopsided demands to further complicate and escalating / prolonging the issue.
How could China ONLY be faulted in a multi-claim zone whereby the other party is completely right? This is double std & hypocrisy!
That's how you look at issues NOT by hearsay without the brain functioning. It's shameful in 21st century where most of the people have tertiary education.
@@D.2601 The world knows about imperialists activities of US and these activities were never legal nor acceptable.
Whoever leads the innovative techs, it is all good for the human beings regardless where the innovation comes from. No need to politicalized the techs.
Exactly. Why use it as a "geo-politic" tool? Do you use "apple" or FB as a tool? It's the same - shall China continue to buy US commercial planes with the 737-800 crash?
nah...MSM still telling me that china is a backwater country full of barefoot rice farmers in strawhats pulling a water buffalo lololol
Pascal, how on earth do you produce so many well researched videos on such a regular basis ? You must have a big research team. 👏👏👏
No. All on my own. But I do read a lot, have done for years and can benefit from 30 years China immersion and 20 years living in China and many friends living in China that can give me feedback.
AI is unstoppable, the advantage it brings is game changing. The biggest feature of AI now is pattern recognition, the things that are impossible or insurmountable because the human resource required is now possible and game changing. Surveillance, exception identification, decision support, data search, modelling ...... things that used to take so much computing power and complexity is now done so much more easily through inference and deep learning. I used to write AI program like Diagnostic programs that depend on decision trees and later using fuzzy logic and it is super tedious and limited by my own knowledge. The new deep learning or machine learning program were beyond the hardware capabilities of my days, these are revolutionary time in human machine integration.
profound knowledge of China and powerful argument with concrete evidence. AAAAA
Thanks. Appreciated
Go , China, go !!!
China and Russia together will bring the long-awaited demise of "US hegemony & US Exceptionalism" !!
China 100% 🇨🇳
USA hell NO!
since so many americans are moving to china to live.... the chinese should bring out the american exclusion act of 2022.
hahahahaha!
It is very valuable of you to notice the difference of priotity toward humankind between China-EU-USA. China is a large country of a very large populayion with many peoples, its core values treasures solidarity, compromise and harmony. USA is a country of individuals, where freedom and democracy pivots on individual interests. EU is somewhere between. However, social is human, this is the primary feature of human kind. Who to believe is very easy to figure out. USA is out of the question.
I honestly like the idea of AI prosecutors in the courts. It’s strict and forward without bias and drama.No-frills. I can’t wait.
Once again thank you for your information .. the real problem about advance technology is in fact the ignorance of the real meaning and advantages humanity could profit of it and also in other hand western governments promote individualism only to benefits fews while China their purpose is the collectivity... Since 1980 Chinese built the collectivity and western the individualism with the results we have today...
Nothing will stop technology , Tobe read between the lines...✌️
Great show 👏
All talk show should focus on can the world trust US. All focus should be on US now.
Big US tech companies have been fined multiple times for violations of privacy laws. Very little faith here.
Or alternatively ask, whether trust a true republic nation with 2000+ years confucius culture promotes meritocracy and extol moral principles or the country with 200+ something years history replied on exploration of local aboriginals, slave, opium and now weapons trades which values rich/Capitalists/businessmen as prestigious in society.
Pascal you are amazing!!!
Thank you!
fun and fresh channel as always
You need to see the video by Ray Dalio. There is nothing we can do. It is normal change of order, Trust or no trust.
will do
Very informative talk! Thank you very much!
Also, my guess is that China has long-term plans and can afford to develop new technologies without having to immediately push it onto the market which is often the case with western tech companies. So I wouldn't be surprised if China suddenly has very advanced microchip manufacturing capabilities.
Good Job and Support ! Bravo to China Rise Peacefully and be Strong ! Together for a Shared Future !
wonderful video!
Thanks
Pascal, get your book published in China and translated into Chinese.
I will see what I can do. Thanks
Yes
Actually China is already one of biggest chip manufacturers in the world, surpassing the US. In fact east Asia is the biggest and the most advanced chip manufacturers in the world. However China is currently able to produce 28nm and 14nm chips, whereas the high end semiconductor chips of 5nm and below are produced in Chinese Taipei and South Korea. But these 5nm chips are needed in smart phones. In other industries 28nm and 14nm chips are needed and China is now quite self sufficient in producing these chips.
China is currently going into graphene based chips and photonic chips, in the near future they may dominate the production of these chips that are far more superior than silicon based chips. They may not need ASML equipment to produce these new graphene based chips, so even ASML may face bankruptcy in the near future.
Thanks for sharing. I am going to look cloaely into the graphene and photonic chips from China in future.
China makes plenty of chips, but are almost all for domestic consumption only.
The problem is that uniformly not only are the fab and chip technologies very old(several generations, going back over 10 years), they also perform poorly compared to similar nm technology elsewhere. You can argue that in the end all that counts is that the chip works no badly how badly it performs, but that limits their usage outside of China. Maybe it can be argued that as long as the chips are all sold and used, but it also means lower profits, value and eventually will become obsolete quicker.
@@tonysu8860
If China made chips are so inferior, why did US warn China not to sell chips to Russia?
Right!!!!!!!! China sold opium and African slaves worldwide and genocided Jews.
China also started two world wars.
NOOOO China!!!!! Trust war and trust opium.
Start a third Opium War soon.
Europeans had two Opium Wars against China and work great.
You should ask , can we trust US as AI super power….if you are not sure..ask Snowden….
Goodvlog pasal👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks
A.G.I Will be man's last invention
Congratulations！
Well Chinese don't point a gun to force you to trust them.
這是14 億 人口 的貢獻
Bless China forever with pride and gratitude and praise compassion and joy and health
👍👍👍
In term of AI implementation and adoption, China will definitely lead West, this is especially in Government services, infrastructure etc.
The change is fast indeed.
Can we trust America--as a superpower?
Absolutely NO. From US.
nonsense. we india is the TRUE superpower
It depends how others treat China. Action--reaction. Good for good, bad for bad
Very objective analysis
Thanks
How far can the US and Europe AI go without 5G ? They should be way behind China on applications like AI remote medical surgery,firefighting....😄😄😄
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Value difference between China and America just listen how each leader speaks in the world stage. 🌎
Is it about a choice or about an inevitable event? If it is choice then it is possible for some Countries to prevent from happening.
When AI start to control your life no one will even know it before it to late.
What kind of predictions then? Did you base your book on the world's experience with past and passing regimes? If that is the case, then we will be reading about the rising regime in tinted lenses. Why ask whether anyone could trust China when what we should be asking is: See what happened when we trusted the west?
The West is now predominantly a service economy the exception being Germany who never deindustrialized to the extent of the USA and the UK . It's a well known fact that innovation comes from the factory floor and the West exported the factory floor to China a long time ago .
Are your books available in China?
Not yet. I am looking into it
@@PascalCoppens Maybe you should get it translated into Chinese?? Ek hou baie van jou werk...
I don't think he knows what AI even is, does he? Bless him. Looking forward to seeing how the chlildren in the CCP deal with the inevitable scenario of a true AI criticising their mistakes.
The real question is, is AI interested in using China for good?
The big outflow of capitals, the worst performances of the markets, the delusional results of the remaining few IPO’s, the Sense Time muted story give a very clear answer. No!
And the 2022 had to be the year of the return of China markets! 😊
I think the problem is can u trust any country with ai usage. It not like any other country are better but many are worst
I won't trust the US and west in use of AI.
If China achieve AI superiority, it is because of their intelligence and hardwork. Trust does not apply unless you gift them AI superiority.
When open the Macau have any idea let’s me know plz
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Thank you !!!!!
We’ve very different views of ethic from the other super power
Pls consider to use this to entitle” Can we not trust china as an Ai super power ?” It fair and positive.
"WE" who are you to speak in behalf of all people ?!
Will AI transform China into The Low Cost manufacturing Powerhouse once again, notwithstanding demographic headwinds?
The rest of the world is more interested in if we can trust US
Many people have try to say at the end Christians, Muslims, Hindus and Jews all worship the same god some how most religious people will never accept this concept. Another thing is trust goes deeper than codes of conduct the question is can we trust China. Thanks for mentioning the most important question of "if we want to trust China." In the current climate we are moving towards an opposite direction.
Why such a question has to be asked in the first place? Can we trust the US? Can we trust Britain or any European country?
can we trust nato uk us with AI? 🤔
Raising this question is also important
Can we trust China as an AI superpower? don't judge the book by its cover give it a chance !
European Commission’s funding for the Human Brain Simulation Project, which is attempting to emulate a model for the human brain by 2023.
Brilliant observation and a well thought out presentation. Yes, we can trust China as an AI superpower. China is fundamentally a peace loving country. Since WWII, despite periodic small scale border skirmishes with its neighbours, China has only been involved in 2 significant conflicts, namely the Vietnam war and Korean War. For the most part, China has adopted a Laissez-faire attitude towards international affairs. In contrast, US is constantly seeking and provoking conflicts everywhere. Being the main driver in NATO, US has drawn Europe into many of its conflicts, most notably the recent war in Ukraine which is essentially a proxy war between US and Russia. In conclusion, of the 3 leading AI superpowers, China is probably the best bet for the future good of the world.
I for one welcome our coming AI Overlords. They can't be any worse than we have today.
No, no, no, if its the US we have Skynet, if its China we have the Borg,
Geopolitic decision will create diffrent markets and it will not matter if China have the most enginers in the world.
If you want to get more questions than answers this video is for you.
Nah America has a secret weapon Rambo
Historically, the West has utilized new technologies for military or imperialistic purposes before finding broader applications. The West primarily used gunpowder to create weapons of war, such as cannons and firearms, allowing Western powers to expand their military capabilities and exert dominance over other regions through conquest and colonization of the Americas, Africa, and Asia. The steam engine was instrumental in expanding colonial empires, as steam-powered ships facilitated easier transportation of goods and troops, enabling Western powers to exploit resources and establish control over distant territories. The first use of nuclear technology was dropping atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. The same pattern will emerge with AI. The CHIPS Act, high-end chips, and EUV sanctions imply that the US is already working on the weaponization of AI.
Following its historical pattern, China will mainly use AI for commercial and peaceful purposes. Papermaking revolutionized communication, education, and record-keeping, spreading knowledge and culture. Gunpowder was used for fireworks. The compass was adapted for navigational purposes, allowing for more accurate sea travel and exploration. Printing facilitated the dissemination of information, literature, and art, contributing to cultural exchange and education. Porcelain was highly prized both domestically and internationally as a luxury item and a symbol of Chinese craftsmanship. Silk was one of the most valuable commodities traded along the Silk Road and played a significant role in China's economy and diplomacy.
you need not raise this question in the first place!
Perhaps there is no choice
A nice talk by somebody who doesn't understand "AI".
You clearly stated that fair to the collective may mean unfair treatments to a few infividuals. However, does fair to each individuals translaye to frairness to the collective, or soes it matter? Does not being fair to the collective hinder wellness of the collective such as in the fight against covid?
I am not a philosopher or anything close but have the following thoughts:
A collective is a summation of all the individuals in it, plus whatever emergent effects out of this summation/ integration. A policy aiming to benefit the collective must nominally also benefit all the individuals if the objectives/ goals of all the individuals are aligned. If a person is the collective, the cells are the individuals. A policy to improve health of the person may hurt come muscle cells and clearly requires adjustment. If one focus on the person (the collective) you will eventually reduce the amount of exercise as one realizes hurting muscle cells (individuals) also hurt the person. From the other end, focusing on the muscle cells will also lead to adjustment if one does not forget about the person. Thus, the debate on whether one should till towards the collective or the individual is a distraction as the necessary assumption is that no adjustments will be made. However, I would suggest that starting from the individual end may have the risk of missing the needs of the emergent properties of the collective.
In the scenario that interest/ goals of certain individuals are not aligned with that of the collective, the adjustment must include subduing these individuals. Continuing the person as the collective analogy, bacteria cells or cancer cells would represent individuals whose goals/ objectives are not aligned with the collective. These individuals must be eliminated as there is no scenario in living with these cells and improving health. If not done, the obvious result is the demise of the person (collective) which is obviously not acceptable.
Allowing tennis stars or super rich people to be exempted from laws will build up discontent among others and eventually lead to the decline and fracture of society. This may be what we are seeing the West.
Both are true. The issue is that being fair to the collective can be misuswd to target and hurt specific individuals. The opposite is also true. Individual human rights should be basic rights, but when individuals harm the collective, that should not be a right either. The issue is often to how to define the limits.
Should Taiwanese semiconductor companies go to America or anywhere else safe besides remaining on the island?
If you wear a facial mask, Alipay will recognize you but iPhone won't.
No. Trust no one!
Eu and China ❤️ goodbuy us 😂 let's not pretend this is what all we wonna. But who know us my change in next 100 years or so.
People from EU and China are much more family oriented then us individually.
I like to think that we all same in many ways. Only different thing is Circumstances