For Carwyn to go in and coach Wales under his terms would have shaken the WRU committee and the selectors to their core. Unlike today where the coach picks his squad, then it simply would not be allowed. A man ahead of his time indeed.
It's unbelievable how overlooked he was. He basically did the double over the mighty ABs in 1971-72, home and away, with the Lions and Llanelli. How he didn't become Wales coach God only knows. These days international sides would've been falling over themselves to appoint him as coach. His life is like a Greek tragedy in a way.
Two sorry three amazing Welsh No 10s interviewed here. BJ, CM, and CJ. What an amazing man and a similar tale to Alan Turing another intelligent gentle creative man way ahead of his time. I hope that those WRU committee men have bowed their heads in shame ever since.
It's unbelievable how overlooked he was. He basically did the double over the mighty ABs in 1971-72, home and away, with the Lions and Llanelli. How he didn't become Wales coach God only knows. These days international sides would've been falling over themselves to appoint him as coach. His life is like a Greek tragedy in a way.
A quiet thoughtful sophisticated man. A scholar. He related to the game and to his players. Imagine this opening to JPRs original autobiography. He was like Pwell Prince of Dyfed. Riding magnificent and magistic in the mists of the mabinogi.
He was a refined sophistocated man, he exuded culture and intelligence. He spoke beautifully with a superb command of language. He recall how the English actor Robert Hardy described Richard Burton's family as having great style and nobility not the nobility of ermine but something much more visceral. Carwen was cut from the same cloth. He struggled with his homosexuality and this he never really came to terms with.
If Carwyn James had been appointed Wales Coach, they would not only have won 5 Grand Slams in a row but also would have beaten New Zealand for the first time since 1951.
I think a lot of the members of the WRU were jealous of his success and proposals - he was ahead of his time; he knew every aspect of the game and the players'' strengths and weaknesses at Llanelli and Lions ! He was a rare gift for that sport !
From a Scotsman, yes. You are so right, that’s where Carwyn James would have taken the Welsh Rugby team: their talent and his brilliance. Respect 🏴
From a Scotsman, yes. You are so right, that’s where Carwyn James would have taken the Welsh Rugby team: their talent and his brilliance. Respect 🏴
I feel that Carwyn's terms had arisen from his feeling of being disrespected and yet still wanted the honour of being Wales coach but could only do so in sharing the disrespect in return. In any case a great loss in Carwyn's not being appointed.
Coached the Lions, Llanelli and Barbarians to beat the All Blacks..no coach has got anywhere near...a champion of welsh literature and politics, fluent Russian speaker, coaching approach too radical for WRU...likely he was gay lonely and depressed..oh Wales what have you done....?
He was a very very special, brilliant man.
There's been nobody remotely like him since.
(And his sister was such a beautiful person wasn't she.)
The Hammer of the ABs! His ending was so sad and lonely for such a brilliant man. RIP Carwyn
For Carwyn to go in and coach Wales under his terms would have shaken the WRU committee and the selectors to their core. Unlike today where the coach picks his squad, then it simply would not be allowed. A man ahead of his time indeed.
An interesting and brilliant man. This was a great series.
A very great Welshman ..strangely unrecognised and years a head of his time ..
It's unbelievable how overlooked he was. He basically did the double over the mighty ABs in 1971-72, home and away, with the Lions and Llanelli. How he didn't become Wales coach God only knows. These days international sides would've been falling over themselves to appoint him as coach. His life is like a Greek tragedy in a way.
@@thadtuiol1717 Its..all so very strange ..one of the great Welshmen of the 20th century . I would love to have met Him ..God Bless
At the start of my Rugby life Carwyn James was my hero and what a fantastic man, Sir, R.I.P.
Two sorry three amazing Welsh No 10s interviewed here. BJ, CM, and CJ. What an amazing man and a similar tale to Alan Turing another intelligent gentle creative man way ahead of his time. I hope that those WRU committee men have bowed their heads in shame ever since.
It's unbelievable how overlooked he was. He basically did the double over the mighty ABs in 1971-72, home and away, with the Lions and Llanelli. How he didn't become Wales coach God only knows. These days international sides would've been falling over themselves to appoint him as coach. His life is like a Greek tragedy in a way.
Did you see that program about Turin?
I swear to heaven above. You see me around a Rugby bach.. A genius should and will be recognised. OK?
A wonderful documentary about an enigmatic and multi-talented man.
Such a sad ending to an extraordinary life.
A quiet thoughtful sophisticated man. A scholar. He related to the game and to his players. Imagine this opening to JPRs original autobiography. He was like Pwell Prince of Dyfed. Riding magnificent and magistic in the mists of the mabinogi.
A unique approach to rugby, he had the right ingredients to create interest no matter who it is !
A true gentleman.
He was a refined sophistocated man, he exuded culture and intelligence. He spoke beautifully with a superb command of language. He recall how the English actor Robert Hardy described Richard Burton's family as having great style and nobility not the nobility of ermine but something much more visceral. Carwen was cut from the same cloth. He struggled with his homosexuality and this he never really came to terms with.
Welland and james simply heaven
Yep. 👍🙂
a great great man
If Carwyn James had been appointed Wales Coach, they would not only have won 5 Grand Slams in a row but also would have beaten New Zealand for the first time since 1951.
and possibly a world cup
I think a lot of the members of the WRU were jealous of his success and proposals - he was ahead of his time; he knew every aspect of the game and the players'' strengths and weaknesses at Llanelli and Lions ! He was a rare gift for that sport !
My dad was born 3 years before him. And still my dad had total respect for him. Hence. I know. Loads more than you. JFox. Referee
From a Scotsman, yes. You are so right, that’s where Carwyn James would have taken the Welsh Rugby team: their talent and his brilliance. Respect 🏴
From a Scotsman, yes. You are so right, that’s where Carwyn James would have taken the Welsh Rugby team: their talent and his brilliance. Respect 🏴
Carywn, brilliant, true legend, rugby genius, gentleman. True son of Wales 🏴 R.I.P
This is a fine Obituary.
Hence my affection for the term, 'The WISE Islands': Wales, Ireland, Scotland and England.
He's very much in coaching is similar to Brian clough
Never forgotten. Xxxxxxxx
I feel that Carwyn's terms had arisen from his feeling of being disrespected and yet still wanted the honour of being Wales coach but could only do so in sharing the disrespect in return. In any case a great loss in Carwyn's not being appointed.
Was he ever considered coach for the Lions tour of South Africa, 1974? With his amazing prior successes, he'd have been a shoo-in.
very special... very special...indeed
Of course i know him. A sister always stays. Ill bet he went to see how everyone did. Xxxxx
James and clough identical twins
I preferred Revie, the Don. 👍🙂
Think
about
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There's got to be more Welsh coaches like Carwyn, I'm a kiwi,get rid of kiwi coaches.
Sweetheart. You cannot say sod all until you get picked for the front row or winger.... Xxxxx J Xxxxxxxx
Sweetheart. You cannot shout your gob off until you have played against the Welsh... Xxxxx JFox. Xxxxxxxx
Wych,Newydd weld cynhyrchiad Carwyn I’r theatr…ar being
Coached the Lions, Llanelli and Barbarians to beat the All Blacks..no coach has got anywhere near...a champion of welsh literature and politics, fluent Russian speaker, coaching approach too radical for WRU...likely he was gay lonely and depressed..oh Wales what have you done....?
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