Very true, but at the same time having TIE's and their pilots do the pre-flight checks is a very real situation as you do the same in real life. If Andor can keep doing this, it will expand the lore for as long as Filoni's pet characters remain off this show.
I'm so thankful that real Star Wars fans are writing this show. I'm not saying Filoni isn't a real Star Wars Fan, but he's a fan of only his Star Wars. I don't blame him; he's done real good, in his time, but Filoni Star Wars is something different; at times respectful, but different.
a6m zero fragile because japan lack of technology nothing they can do about it . TIE fighter is very different : the empire have all avaiable tech and money to make good armored , good firepower , long range starfighter but they choice not to
@@tranbachuyen6655 The analog is the war in the pacific.. The US armored up all of their fighters during the war because we valued protecting the pilots.. The Japanese valued their pilots too, but their thought process, armor only protects you if you are being shot at. If we are more maneuverable, we aren't being fired on. And for a lot of the early war, that was the case. All of the 'starfighters' in this universe are essentially just wwII fighters. Because from an artistic standpoint, it looks cool.
This is the difference between Andor and Filoni The time travel put Star Wars into a fantasy mode Andor, brings Star Wars to the daily life feeling That's why I love Andor more Even "Bee" is one of the first droids (if I'm not wrong) that is getting charged and gets worried about it
In the clone wars it is shown how the battle droids run out of energy and are worried about that there is no place to charge their batteries nearby. But I think Andor is indeed the first show where we actually see a droid being charged.
@@maunz5791 Seems like Bee is a really old droid who's not had replacement parts in a while. He's like an old mobile phone that just bleeds battery power whenever you use it.
This scene reminded me of the scene in Mandalorian S01E04 where we got to experience the AT-ST in a much more terrifying form than we were used in the OT.
This was one of the first things that made me think that Andor was going to be a different SW experience. I loved the TIE fighters when SW first came out in '77--I was an 11 yr old comic book/Star Trek fan. So to hear them on those Dolby stereo theater speakers at the Loews on 86th street in NYC was phenomenal (I think their first seen flying towards the DS1--a transition to Leia in her cell). After the decades of seeing them blasted to bits or crashing into ship sides or asteroids I no longer saw them as cool or threatening...until Andor. That scene you showed--I was watching intensely, home audio system turned on. Then when that beautiful bitch disappeared behind the cliff and reemerged that scream/groal made me jump! My first words after that was niccceeee.
Tie fighters all carry what is possibly the deadliest weapon of all, a radio. While they themselves may not be that terrifying, it’s only a phone call away to bring in something that is.
@@GenerationTechShorts He probably didn't even SEE the folks on the ground. He's sat in the cockpit, helmet off, blaring Iron Maiden riff-o-rama/guitar solos, thinking to himself "let's see how hard I can push this sum'bitch in-atmosphere. Ooh, lookit that, I kicked up a rooster tail! Badass!"
Hopefully, now that Stormtroopers have made a big appearance in Andor's Season 1 finale, Tony Gilroy will apply the same effect to them as he did to the TIEs and make them scary again. Too much of Dave Filoni's work has practically castrated the image of the Stormtrooper among the fandom, and they need to be made scary again, like they were in the first SW movie. Also, TIE Fighters aren't so harmless in dogfights, Alan. There's this game called Rogue Leader, the second game in the Rogue Squadron series. The stats for each fighter in that series, from firepower to shields and speed, are based on SW lore. It is the most lore-accurate SW flight sim. X-Wings are very balanced, A-Wings are faster than most ships, B-Wings have a lot of firepower, Y-Wings move as slow as molasses, and TIE Fighters die like flies when shot. And I was still able to kill whole squads of rebel starfighters in the bonus Imperial missions using a TIE Fighter, either by boxing them in and letting turbolasers kill them, or tailgating them and blowing them to bits myself. And having played as the rebels in that game myself, if a TIE gets in your back, you're in big trouble, and you need to shake off that bogey before he smokes you.
It goes to show that there are plenty of unique stories to tell in the Star Wars universe that dont require fan service. No offence to Filoni but Ashoka or the Mando do not have to be in everything.
I hated when he brought back Ashoka Being killed by Vader would have been beautiful and of course yet terrible Would have add more development as a villain to Vader But the way he "saved" her.... I'm sorry but was just silly Time travel always ruin franchises, it makes the events and efforts meaningless Of course unless the movie is about that as Back to the Future, but not for Star Wars
@@mewtwo.150 Gotta agree with that. It would have been a poignant end to her story. Sadly this is a classic case of the creator getting too invested in one particular character, to the detriment of the overall story.
It really highlights how vulnerable and underequipped the rebels are. TIE fighters can be dealt with if you have turbolaser batteries or an X-wing of your own... but what if you don't? Even the Storm Troopers are presented as a worrying upgrade to regular imperial army or security forces, which already outgun the rebels.
That's very similar to what I thought when watching the Book of Boba Fett, and the Mandalorian. Simple droids and AT-STs seem much more terrifying than they appear in e.g. the Clone Wars. We've seen entire armies of them razed to the ground in less time than it takes the mandalorian to defeat a single one. I think this really highlights the difference between "military grade" technology and "civilian grade".
Non pressurized means the big delicate ball of a tie fighter doesn't have pressure differentials to deal with on its structure. Since the fighters are not designed as transit vessels, you basically only need to be suited up for your short single mission sortie. You aren't transiting in hyperspace. Take off every unit of scrap to make it cheap, very fast, and suited for its narrow range.
Heh, those tie fighter racks range back to at least force unleashed 1, where you see them in the first mission there. The new battlefront 2 is certainly not the first time it's been a thing.
The scream was 'borrowed' from Stuka diver-bombers that had sirens mounted in their landing-gear. At speeds above 150 MPH or so, the "Jericho Trombones" would be powered by passing air and make a deafening noise. Civilians would stand and stare, soldiers would run/hide or shoot. It was supposed to give the Stuka pilots a way to tell military targets from 'just folks'. In practice, they strafed and bombed everyone. Pilots were not immune from the noise! Many would disable the siren, to save their hearing. Lucas wrote nothing new in his Epic Tale; his genius was in using things people already knew.
"Andor has done an excellent job at taking our existing notion of pretty standard things in Star Wars lore and flipping it over by giving us a different perspective" Can't wait to see Darth Vader visit a preschool...
Indeed! Too often, people dismiss elements of the universe as fan service. It would be weird _not_ to have TIE fighters and stormtroopers in the story; those are tools of the government there. Milk is blue in that world. If a grown man with mommy issues eats kids cereal for dinner, it will have blue milk!
I think it’s because they feel like real military craft rather than flying glass balls that are destroyed in droves. Imagine an F-35 flying over a group of terrorists in Afghanistan. That’s basically what happens in Andor. The shriek is actually loud, and I swear they edited the noise because it sounds even more like nails on a blackboard now
TIE Fighters are terrifying to ground units, because not only can their lasers fry infantry, but they're pretty damn good at taking out tanks and armored turret emplacements that would usually be a nightmare for ground units to fight. Say a force of Astra Militarum from the Imperium of Man rolled up with tanks to go up against what they assume to be local Imperial Army troopers, which would usually be easy pickings. Then a couple of TIE Fighters show up and blow up their tanks with a volley of laserfire, easily disposing of armored tanks that are usually terrors in ground combat, before they start strafing the guardsmen. Those TIEs just turned an advancing division of guardsmen and tanks into a broken gaggle of scared rats and scrap metal, weak enough that even the measly Imperial Army troopers can take them out.
Really emphasises how the massive role of anti aircraft guns irl hasn't necessarily filtered through to a lot of sci-fi (especially 40k, where the play space is generally relatively 2.5D and battles revolve around ground forces - plus an AA gun isn't necessarily an interesting model). Even today's anti aircraft would rip a tie fighter to shreds. Not enough armor, shields, altitude or speed to avoid a ton of high velocity shrapnel
@@tompugh5227 TIE Fighters are made of titanium steel alloy with quadranium steel wings. Still, a strong enough laser cannon can turn it into shreds. I remember tooling around in an AT-ST in one of the Rebel Strike missions, and I was still able to shoot down TIE fighters with it. Still, a TIE Fighter can put up one hell of a fight against ground forces. I remember the mission in Rogue Leader where you have to carjack a shuttle; I stole a TIE fighter and used it to decimate the ground turrets guarding the shuttle, before stealing the shuttle myself and flipping the Imps the bird. Then, when playing as the Empire in Battlefront I, I decimated Rebel tanks on the ground with a TIE fighter, and we won the battle by virtue of having more armored vehicles than the rebels, due to me always gunning down their tanks with the TIE. Then I played the Imperial version of the Death Star Attack in Rogue Leader, and shooting down rebel starfighters was surprisingly fun while in a TIE. Just don't let them tailgun you, and always tailgun them instead.
@@HolyknightVader999 It can hit and kill thunderhawks which have as much armour as a Land Raider Tank and a max in atmo speed of 2000 kph. So yes a Fragile Tie fighter is no challenge. A thunderhawk has about 65mm of : "An adamantium inner hull is layered on top by titanium rolled plates, followed by a thermoplas fibre mesh, and then two layers of ceramite, the second of which is ablative"
Very much like Reaper drones in afganstan... Yes they are not A-10s or F-22s but they'll see you alot easier then you'll see them and if they need to use their hellfires on you they can and your RPG/Ak-74 will miss.
The idea that the TIE Fighter is exceptionally squishy compared to all other starfighters is laughable if one has actually paid attention to battles in Star Wars. ALL STARFIGHTERS GET 1-SHOTTED. Even the X-Wing. The only time it's different is if that fighter is flown by a Plot Armor Character.
Jet fighters use special suits, high altitude bombers, make the pilots use special suits So you have a tie fighter pilot, that can go into high altitudes at any moment, I think is fair to use it all the time you fly one Exactly as how it happened during the eye, they would have reached the space of weren't destroyed If they didn't use the spacesuits, they wouldn't have been able to follow them
@@mewtwo.150 The point is that the TIE pilots _must_ wear them to be in space. The rebels just hopped into a ship and took off, no pressure suits or helmets required.
@@kdub3890 Yes, because the X Rebels ships are built different They have life support systems And the tie fighters don't This has been known since the old trilogy era though
Only problem with a TIE in atmosphere is also the things have 0 aerodynamics, they fly on repulsor and engine power completely, and heavy wind can actually negatively impact a TIEs ability to fly because those big dumb square wings catch the wind like kites. But to people on the ground, without any kind of AA or heavy ordinance, yeah, they are basically giant flying tanks vs small arms.
Wait is it true that TIEs are not pressurized/just open to the vacuum of space? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen in some Star Wars media people flying tie fighters without a helmet/suit with full life support
Sometimes mistakes happen. Sometimes people who make these movies and shows just don't care, and let others try to patch over it with retcons. You can tell the difference by the frequency of these mistakes.
no i doubt the ties are open to the vacuum of space, there is probably some air inside the cockpit its just that breathable air requires a constant life support system which ties dont have
The fact that it has a hyperdrive, it can land normally/no racks, there are no suits seen and they don't die once they're in space means that it works very differently
Obviously Leia's Mary Poppins alter ego saved them from the vacuum of space with magic, as an off screen force projection across the galaxy. We've seen her open a door directly into space without exposing the people inside to the vacuum of space, and clearly she wouldn't die from force projection like weaker force user, such as Luke. /s
@@pg9193 the lore reason is that the first order variant of the tie fighter is actually good. they did not have the limitless manpower the empire did, so they went all out on making the fighter strong. shields, hyperdrive, life support, even featuring a rotating turret and missile systems, all while still having the ludicrous speed and maneuverability of the base model.
It doesn't matter how shitty an aircraft is in air to air combat when it's about attacking infantry units without anti air Equipment And even with anti air Equipment a tie fighter in this terrain with it's speed and impressive maneuverability is almost impossible to get a lock on and shoot down before he gets the shot on you
The Empire in Andor has been presented as somewhat competent so far. However, I'm a little "scared", should I say, when the inevitable stormtroopers vs Ferrix civilians with guns and at least one grenade (or IED), as per the trailer, begins. The Army Troopers were on a decent level, exactly what I imagined them to be. Not incompetent, not too competent. Managed to inflict reasonable damage in closely even odds (1 corporal, 3 troopers + a few more unarmed troopers that later picked up weapons vs all armed 5 guerillas, 1 ex-stormtrooper, 1 traitor officer). The prison guards, however, were treated like typical Star Wars Rebels enemies. More of them were killed than they managed to kill in gunfights (I'm not counting the charging unarmed men). First the show set the bar for imperial troops high (not really, because realistically this is what one would expect from a soldier, but in Star Wars terms it is high compared to other material about imperial troops). Then they forget about the "bar" and revert to incompetent imperials. If the revert trend stays in the final episodes and Stormtroopers turn out to be less competent than Army Troopers, this would be one of the biggest let downs in this show. Especially if they do the Death Troopers dirty like they did in The Mandalorian (literally special forces breach and clear a room, establish fire superiority with the target's location known and yet the target somehow was able to show up behind the corner, that was already targeted and shot at, and managed to fire long enough with her machine gun to wipe all 3 of the operators in the room).
Cause they’re probably gonna mow down all th escaping prisoners towards the end of the season except for Andor and his buddy cause Kino will come in and save him with a stolen tie fighter
Tie Fighters flying through the atmosphere with absolutely no aerodynamic surfaces defies the laws of physics - and anything that can defy the laws of physics would be terrifying.
Well, in fact everything with enough velocity can fly in atmosphere, like missiles. Tie a rocketbooster (and maybe some manuevering thrusters) to a cow and it will fly, aerodynamic or not. Now just imagine having some super advanced ion hairdryers with no moving parts instead of rocket thrusters and it isn't that implausible at all.
If that's supposed to be a critique on Andor's writing.. the show just might not be for you, man. It's a slow burn for sure and I understand how that might not be a preference for some, but it's far from lazy. This show is _meticulously_ written in plot and dialogue, imo
Very true, but at the same time having TIE's and their pilots do the pre-flight checks is a very real situation as you do the same in real life. If Andor can keep doing this, it will expand the lore for as long as Filoni's pet characters remain off this show.
I'm so thankful that real Star Wars fans are writing this show. I'm not saying Filoni isn't a real Star Wars Fan, but he's a fan of only his Star Wars. I don't blame him; he's done real good, in his time, but Filoni Star Wars is something different; at times respectful, but different.
@@ricktheexplorer The Filoniverse might as well be its own thing.
@@ricktheexplorer oh wow well said, didn’t see it from that POV👏🏻
Completely agree
It's the equivalent of WW2 Zero fighters: fast and deadly, yet fragile
With the sounds of a Stuka.
It really shows why air support was effective during WW2 despite them not causing much damage to ground troops. The psychological impact was huge.
a6m zero fragile because japan lack of technology nothing they can do about it . TIE fighter is very different : the empire have all avaiable tech and money to make good armored , good firepower , long range starfighter but they choice not to
I think Lucas and co. based the TIE on the Zero, in fact.
@@tranbachuyen6655 The analog is the war in the pacific.. The US armored up all of their fighters during the war because we valued protecting the pilots.. The Japanese valued their pilots too, but their thought process, armor only protects you if you are being shot at. If we are more maneuverable, we aren't being fired on. And for a lot of the early war, that was the case.
All of the 'starfighters' in this universe are essentially just wwII fighters. Because from an artistic standpoint, it looks cool.
This is the difference between Andor and Filoni
The time travel put Star Wars into a fantasy mode
Andor, brings Star Wars to the daily life feeling
That's why I love Andor more
Even "Bee" is one of the first droids (if I'm not wrong) that is getting charged and gets worried about it
In the clone wars it is shown how the battle droids run out of energy and are worried about that there is no place to charge their batteries nearby. But I think Andor is indeed the first show where we actually see a droid being charged.
@@maunz5791 We see 3PO and R2D2 charging in the Clone Wars too I'm pretty sure
That's fine, I loved Andor but I personally prefer the fantasy side of Star Wars. Not like they can't co-exist though.
@@maunz5791 Seems like Bee is a really old droid who's not had replacement parts in a while. He's like an old mobile phone that just bleeds battery power whenever you use it.
Both of those things can coexist. It makrs the fantasy stuff even more powerful to me. It reminds me of a Song of Ice and Fire.
This scene reminded me of the scene in Mandalorian S01E04 where we got to experience the AT-ST in a much more terrifying form than we were used in the OT.
I loved the At-St battle and in Ep 6 it was so easy to destroy.
I hope they include them in Andor season 2
@@panzernerd8486 even the line from a fan "I hope they include" will pretty much tell you that they won't, and that's a good thing.
This was one of the first things that made me think that Andor was going to be a different SW experience. I loved the TIE fighters when SW first came out in '77--I was an 11 yr old comic book/Star Trek fan. So to hear them on those Dolby stereo theater speakers at the Loews on 86th street in NYC was phenomenal (I think their first seen flying towards the DS1--a transition to Leia in her cell). After the decades of seeing them blasted to bits or crashing into ship sides or asteroids I no longer saw them as cool or threatening...until Andor. That scene you showed--I was watching intensely, home audio system turned on. Then when that beautiful bitch disappeared behind the cliff and reemerged that scream/groal made me jump! My first words after that was niccceeee.
Tie fighters all carry what is possibly the deadliest weapon of all, a radio. While they themselves may not be that terrifying, it’s only a phone call away to bring in something that is.
Can you imagine the size of the grin on the TIE pilot's face, though?
He's laughing his ass off.
Hehe yeah big shit eating grin
@@GenerationTechShorts He probably didn't even SEE the folks on the ground. He's sat in the cockpit, helmet off, blaring Iron Maiden riff-o-rama/guitar solos, thinking to himself "let's see how hard I can push this sum'bitch in-atmosphere. Ooh, lookit that, I kicked up a rooster tail! Badass!"
mistakes were made and we had to take down our last episode fry everyone who saw it
please dont fry me
I saw it. And I'm telling the world. I won't cower and everyone will know about the oppressor's flaws!
"One Way Out!"
@@dmathiass On Program!!
i am still alive. you cant fry me i am a sith. i can fry you however. lets all let the hate flow through us
Hopefully, now that Stormtroopers have made a big appearance in Andor's Season 1 finale, Tony Gilroy will apply the same effect to them as he did to the TIEs and make them scary again. Too much of Dave Filoni's work has practically castrated the image of the Stormtrooper among the fandom, and they need to be made scary again, like they were in the first SW movie.
Also, TIE Fighters aren't so harmless in dogfights, Alan. There's this game called Rogue Leader, the second game in the Rogue Squadron series. The stats for each fighter in that series, from firepower to shields and speed, are based on SW lore. It is the most lore-accurate SW flight sim. X-Wings are very balanced, A-Wings are faster than most ships, B-Wings have a lot of firepower, Y-Wings move as slow as molasses, and TIE Fighters die like flies when shot. And I was still able to kill whole squads of rebel starfighters in the bonus Imperial missions using a TIE Fighter, either by boxing them in and letting turbolasers kill them, or tailgating them and blowing them to bits myself. And having played as the rebels in that game myself, if a TIE gets in your back, you're in big trouble, and you need to shake off that bogey before he smokes you.
It goes to show that there are plenty of unique stories to tell in the Star Wars universe that dont require fan service. No offence to Filoni but Ashoka or the Mando do not have to be in everything.
I hated when he brought back Ashoka
Being killed by Vader would have been beautiful and of course yet terrible
Would have add more development as a villain to Vader
But the way he "saved" her.... I'm sorry but was just silly
Time travel always ruin franchises, it makes the events and efforts meaningless
Of course unless the movie is about that as Back to the Future, but not for Star Wars
@@mewtwo.150 Gotta agree with that. It would have been a poignant end to her story. Sadly this is a classic case of the creator getting too invested in one particular character, to the detriment of the overall story.
Andor is such a great show!
It really highlights how vulnerable and underequipped the rebels are. TIE fighters can be dealt with if you have turbolaser batteries or an X-wing of your own... but what if you don't?
Even the Storm Troopers are presented as a worrying upgrade to regular imperial army or security forces, which already outgun the rebels.
I really like the way the tie fighter makes the same noise flying through a highland valley as it does in the vacuum of space.
The way the tie fighters hang from racks make them look like bats
Whenever Tie Fighter fly around, they ask their enemies how is their health plan.
Apparently it was great.
The clarity of this post is not great.
Alucard?
That's very similar to what I thought when watching the Book of Boba Fett, and the Mandalorian. Simple droids and AT-STs seem much more terrifying than they appear in e.g. the Clone Wars. We've seen entire armies of them razed to the ground in less time than it takes the mandalorian to defeat a single one. I think this really highlights the difference between "military grade" technology and "civilian grade".
Non pressurized means the big delicate ball of a tie fighter doesn't have pressure differentials to deal with on its structure. Since the fighters are not designed as transit vessels, you basically only need to be suited up for your short single mission sortie. You aren't transiting in hyperspace. Take off every unit of scrap to make it cheap, very fast, and suited for its narrow range.
The TIE fighter reminds me of the Stuka dive bomber. Effective at scaring the be-jezus out of the enemy, until they have effective countermeasures.
Heh, those tie fighter racks range back to at least force unleashed 1, where you see them in the first mission there. The new battlefront 2 is certainly not the first time it's been a thing.
The scream was 'borrowed' from Stuka diver-bombers that had sirens mounted in their landing-gear.
At speeds above 150 MPH or so, the "Jericho Trombones" would be powered by passing air and make a deafening noise.
Civilians would stand and stare, soldiers would run/hide or shoot.
It was supposed to give the Stuka pilots a way to tell military targets from 'just folks'.
In practice, they strafed and bombed everyone.
Pilots were not immune from the noise! Many would disable the siren, to save their hearing.
Lucas wrote nothing new in his Epic Tale; his genius was in using things people already knew.
"Andor has done an excellent job at taking our existing notion of pretty standard things in Star Wars lore and flipping it over by giving us a different perspective"
Can't wait to see Darth Vader visit a preschool...
We've already seen him do that, it was near the end of revenge of the sith
@@getdragonfruit5252 In Ep IV we see him partake in Take Your Daughter To Work Day.
Ngl I'm up for an average Coruscant teenager school life show...
@@diinouhothead9362 In anime style?
@@MrNeuweltII lol, would be nice
TIE Maulers are light anti-infantry tanks used in Empire at War.
Would be nice to see them in another game or in live action.
1:35 Fanservice ain't always a bad thing.
Too many fan service is a bad thing.
Indeed! Too often, people dismiss elements of the universe as fan service. It would be weird _not_ to have TIE fighters and stormtroopers in the story; those are tools of the government there.
Milk is blue in that world. If a grown man with mommy issues eats kids cereal for dinner, it will have blue milk!
it is if the fans are morons, which Mandalorian fans _definitely_ are
I think it’s because they feel like real military craft rather than flying glass balls that are destroyed in droves. Imagine an F-35 flying over a group of terrorists in Afghanistan. That’s basically what happens in Andor. The shriek is actually loud, and I swear they edited the noise because it sounds even more like nails on a blackboard now
TIE Fighters are terrifying to ground units, because not only can their lasers fry infantry, but they're pretty damn good at taking out tanks and armored turret emplacements that would usually be a nightmare for ground units to fight. Say a force of Astra Militarum from the Imperium of Man rolled up with tanks to go up against what they assume to be local Imperial Army troopers, which would usually be easy pickings. Then a couple of TIE Fighters show up and blow up their tanks with a volley of laserfire, easily disposing of armored tanks that are usually terrors in ground combat, before they start strafing the guardsmen. Those TIEs just turned an advancing division of guardsmen and tanks into a broken gaggle of scared rats and scrap metal, weak enough that even the measly Imperial Army troopers can take them out.
Really emphasises how the massive role of anti aircraft guns irl hasn't necessarily filtered through to a lot of sci-fi (especially 40k, where the play space is generally relatively 2.5D and battles revolve around ground forces - plus an AA gun isn't necessarily an interesting model). Even today's anti aircraft would rip a tie fighter to shreds. Not enough armor, shields, altitude or speed to avoid a ton of high velocity shrapnel
@@tompugh5227 TIE Fighters are made of titanium steel alloy with quadranium steel wings. Still, a strong enough laser cannon can turn it into shreds. I remember tooling around in an AT-ST in one of the Rebel Strike missions, and I was still able to shoot down TIE fighters with it. Still, a TIE Fighter can put up one hell of a fight against ground forces. I remember the mission in Rogue Leader where you have to carjack a shuttle; I stole a TIE fighter and used it to decimate the ground turrets guarding the shuttle, before stealing the shuttle myself and flipping the Imps the bird.
Then, when playing as the Empire in Battlefront I, I decimated Rebel tanks on the ground with a TIE fighter, and we won the battle by virtue of having more armored vehicles than the rebels, due to me always gunning down their tanks with the TIE. Then I played the Imperial version of the Death Star Attack in Rogue Leader, and shooting down rebel starfighters was surprisingly fun while in a TIE. Just don't let them tailgun you, and always tailgun them instead.
*Laughs in Hydra Flak battery*
@@crplsteve Can it punch through titanium steel alloy? Can it hit something going so fast?
@@HolyknightVader999 It can hit and kill thunderhawks which have as much armour as a Land Raider Tank and a max in atmo speed of 2000 kph. So yes a Fragile Tie fighter is no challenge. A thunderhawk has about 65mm of : "An adamantium inner hull is layered on top by titanium rolled plates, followed by a thermoplas fibre mesh, and then two layers of ceramite, the second of which is ablative"
The tie fighter is actually a really good ship..
Very much like Reaper drones in afganstan... Yes they are not A-10s or F-22s but they'll see you alot easier then you'll see them and if they need to use their hellfires on you they can and your RPG/Ak-74 will miss.
The idea that the TIE Fighter is exceptionally squishy compared to all other starfighters is laughable if one has actually paid attention to battles in Star Wars. ALL STARFIGHTERS GET 1-SHOTTED. Even the X-Wing. The only time it's different is if that fighter is flown by a Plot Armor Character.
Heck, wed all be scared pantsless if we were chased with so much as a bi plane in a cornfield
Imagine thinking it's a bad thing that spaceship pilots are wearing space suits.
Jet fighters use special suits, high altitude bombers, make the pilots use special suits
So you have a tie fighter pilot, that can go into high altitudes at any moment, I think is fair to use it all the time you fly one
Exactly as how it happened during the eye, they would have reached the space of weren't destroyed
If they didn't use the spacesuits, they wouldn't have been able to follow them
@@mewtwo.150 The point is that the TIE pilots _must_ wear them to be in space. The rebels just hopped into a ship and took off, no pressure suits or helmets required.
@@kdub3890 Yes, because the X Rebels ships are built different
They have life support systems
And the tie fighters don't
This has been known since the old trilogy era though
@@kdub3890 Imagine not worrying about a crack in the windshield.
Only problem with a TIE in atmosphere is also the things have 0 aerodynamics, they fly on repulsor and engine power completely, and heavy wind can actually negatively impact a TIEs ability to fly because those big dumb square wings catch the wind like kites. But to people on the ground, without any kind of AA or heavy ordinance, yeah, they are basically giant flying tanks vs small arms.
Wait is it true that TIEs are not pressurized/just open to the vacuum of space? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen in some Star Wars media people flying tie fighters without a helmet/suit with full life support
Sometimes mistakes happen. Sometimes people who make these movies and shows just don't care, and let others try to patch over it with retcons. You can tell the difference by the frequency of these mistakes.
no i doubt the ties are open to the vacuum of space, there is probably some air inside the cockpit its just that breathable air requires a constant life support system which ties dont have
They don't have their own recyclers but most are pressurized.
If the hull isn't pressurized then how did Finn and Poe survive their escape in New Hope Awakens?
despite their appearance, the TIEs of the first order were all canonically more advanced designs
Not hard to figure out dude, it's obviously been upgraded.
The fact that it has a hyperdrive, it can land normally/no racks, there are no suits seen and they don't die once they're in space means that it works very differently
Obviously Leia's Mary Poppins alter ego saved them from the vacuum of space with magic, as an off screen force projection across the galaxy. We've seen her open a door directly into space without exposing the people inside to the vacuum of space, and clearly she wouldn't die from force projection like weaker force user, such as Luke.
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I always like when the empire is shown how terrifying they truly are from a normal persons view who has with zero plot armor or fancy skills
i came to fear tie fighters in battlefront 2015 when i had to fight one with a regular blaster
If T.I.E’s aren’t pressurized, then how does the Phoenix crew fly them in Rebels without dying??
Plot
how did Finn and Poe pilot them in that one movie? i forget what it's called, but it probably won't matter in a few years.
@@pg9193 the lore reason is that the first order variant of the tie fighter is actually good. they did not have the limitless manpower the empire did, so they went all out on making the fighter strong. shields, hyperdrive, life support, even featuring a rotating turret and missile systems, all while still having the ludicrous speed and maneuverability of the base model.
uh air support is terrifying for anyone who doesnt have air support
Ya know,,, with the shape of the thing, i wouldnt expect it could make a wake over water. Seems the air behind it would swirl within its own path.
Yeah, them typewriters sure are deadly! lol
0:36 Stormtroopers being chewtoys as usual.
I like Thai fighters because they are from Thailand
Good point
It doesn't matter how shitty an aircraft is in air to air combat when it's about attacking infantry units without anti air Equipment
And even with anti air Equipment a tie fighter in this terrain with it's speed and impressive maneuverability is almost impossible to get a lock on and shoot down before he gets the shot on you
andor just turned into scottish ppl with kalashnikovs boo
The Empire in Andor has been presented as somewhat competent so far. However, I'm a little "scared", should I say, when the inevitable stormtroopers vs Ferrix civilians with guns and at least one grenade (or IED), as per the trailer, begins. The Army Troopers were on a decent level, exactly what I imagined them to be. Not incompetent, not too competent. Managed to inflict reasonable damage in closely even odds (1 corporal, 3 troopers + a few more unarmed troopers that later picked up weapons vs all armed 5 guerillas, 1 ex-stormtrooper, 1 traitor officer). The prison guards, however, were treated like typical Star Wars Rebels enemies. More of them were killed than they managed to kill in gunfights (I'm not counting the charging unarmed men).
First the show set the bar for imperial troops high (not really, because realistically this is what one would expect from a soldier, but in Star Wars terms it is high compared to other material about imperial troops). Then they forget about the "bar" and revert to incompetent imperials. If the revert trend stays in the final episodes and Stormtroopers turn out to be less competent than Army Troopers, this would be one of the biggest let downs in this show. Especially if they do the Death Troopers dirty like they did in The Mandalorian (literally special forces breach and clear a room, establish fire superiority with the target's location known and yet the target somehow was able to show up behind the corner, that was already targeted and shot at, and managed to fire long enough with her machine gun to wipe all 3 of the operators in the room).
yes
Like a modded out civic, completely useless but sound loud.
Cause they’re probably gonna mow down all th escaping prisoners towards the end of the season except for Andor and his buddy cause Kino will come in and save him with a stolen tie fighter
Tie Fighters flying through the atmosphere with absolutely no aerodynamic surfaces defies the laws of physics - and anything that can defy the laws of physics would be terrifying.
Like seeing UFOs
That's what make them so terrifying and beautiful
Well, in fact everything with enough velocity can fly in atmosphere, like missiles. Tie a rocketbooster (and maybe some manuevering thrusters) to a cow and it will fly, aerodynamic or not.
Now just imagine having some super advanced ion hairdryers with no moving parts instead of rocket thrusters and it isn't that implausible at all.
What's a 'Tie' Fighter? I mean, I've heard of a 'TIE' Fighter before....
Because the sound of Tie Fighter wakes you up when you fall asleep from the lazy and boring storytelling and dialogues.
If that's supposed to be a critique on Andor's writing.. the show just might not be for you, man. It's a slow burn for sure and I understand how that might not be a preference for some, but it's far from lazy. This show is _meticulously_ written in plot and dialogue, imo