SCARY 400+ HP V TWINS CALL OUT Suzukis in Red Hot Pro Stock Motorcycle Rivalry!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- A NHRA Pro Stock Motorcycle takes center stage as v twins, S&S Gen 1 and 2, powered drag bikes take on a handful of fast Suzuki Pro Stock Bikes at South Georgia Motorsports Park. We even see a new record as Matt Smith takes his V-twin to a new Pro Stock Motorcycle speed record of 201 mph! The rules vary greatly between these two distinct makes, as the V twins are allowed 160 c.i., about 2600 c.c.s and the Suzukis are limited to about 1800 c.c.s. The Suzukis rev to about 13,000 RPMs, while the Buells rev to about 10,000 RPMs. In this video we will see Matt Smith, Angie Smith, “Flyin” Ryan Oehler, David Barron, Steve Johnson, Joey Gladstone and others mix it up! Enjoy!
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The NHRA has completely destroyed the Pro Stock Bike class. Gone are the little guy racers, gone are the little guy engine shops, gone are the Suzuki’s and the Kawasaki’s. Harley & VHR has run of the rule book making it impossible for anything other than a Harley to be competitive . 2600cc’s what a joke! Here is the end result. It needs to be resurrected at the grass roots level. Renew the Suzuki-Kawasaki rivalry. Get the remaining tracks to have a street bike race series . Keep the bureaucracy out.
So you basically have to give the vtwinn an extra cc bump and weigh down the 4 cylinder bike to make it a fair race? What ever happened to run what you brung?
Yes, but the sanctioning body strives to make a salable product, not to be a testimonial to the most powerful engine configuration.
Old F1 Bike regs allowed four-stroke engines to run higher displacement than two strokes, F1 allowed V-10’s to run against V-8’s as they transitioned to V-8 only, BUT the V-10 was required to fit an inlet restrictor, and CART allowed 2-valve pushrod engines a displacement advantage over 4-valve OHC engines.
Nothing new.
The NHRA engine formula seems to work fairly well, given the performance parity.
From a spectator standpoint, ProScooter is a very entertaining class...
This is the case with any series. Don't make this an NHRA only problem.
@@johncarl5505 well it is a problem when you put a cap of 500 CI in prostock for every manufacturer and give harley a 58 cubic inch advantage in prostock motorcycle........ your theory is right out the window. it's more like we want harley to win no matter what.......
@robert fisher Ever heard of "balance of performance", it exists in almost every racing series. So you are in the minority who think it's bad. F1 is one of the few motorsports where the cars aren't equal. Go watch F1, if you're one of those "run what you brung" folks and you will quickly see why NASCAR moved to spec cars.
@@johncarl5505 sure, but where is that in regular prostock? please explain that. seems as long as GM and harley are leading it's fine. just like back in the glidden days.....
proprietary v twins call out 45 year old suzuki cased motors....
Here comes the excuses! 👏
Exactly! A stock cased motor vs total custom race motor
I see you're new to motor racing.
I can’t wait to see what V&H’s new 4-valve race engine brings to the line.
quit talking about v twins if displacement and weight where equal the 4 cylinder would kill them. PERIOD everyone referring to the v twins as a Harley. the only harley part is a decal
Exactly. They are billet pieces of racing v twin. Nothing harley about them. The inlines are literally based on 70's Suzuki technology
There is nothing from the Suzuki's that's original either. And they rev much higher thats the reason for difference. If they were same displacement it wouldn't even be close.
Engines with less cylinders are always given a displacement or turbo advantage. This has been the case with any motorsport. It's a Harley because of the design. Following your logic, those aren't Suzukis either.
@@kevinm3702 The V twins are based on 1950s Harley engines. Pushrod 45 degree V twin.
@@johncarl5505 true to a point but i have built 325hp suzukis with stock cases and a welded stock crank. you could never do that with ANY harley part
Angie's "I'm good" was said with love ya can tell
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@@cycledrag Suzuki all day Suzuki all night and i have two hds lol
As usual, V-twin engines get a HUUUUUUUUGGGE displacement break. What a bunch of buffalo chips.
V-twin engines sound like a Briggs and Stratton engine on crack, and do nothing for me as far as aesthetics and the boring exhaust note.
Briggs and Stratton! Love it! haha
I was thinking the same thing, how does an open pipe race engine sound so average!
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@@cycledrag Suzuki 4 cylinder bikes are best. Not a big H-D or v-twin fan to begin with here.
Great upclose look at the prostock bikes. The vtwins have come so far.
What's up Underdahl? Nelson from Forest Lake! Good job 👍😎
V twin for the win !
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So the V twins got 800cc more and what? less weight to, that's not right! that is the only way these so call Harleys can win, that is why I do not watch pro stocks bikes, not fair!
Its all a bit wrong isn't it. I totally agree with you.
you are both wrong
www.nhra.com/news/2019/inside-pro-stock-motorcycle-engine
john the National Hot Rod Association has this thing called rules whereas both types of engines have to have the same performance no one is allowed to have a more powerful motorcycle then the class in allows that's so it is fair you are the one who is totally unfair because you have cheated yourself from ever finding out what is really going on until you grow up and learn what drag racing is all about you will have to remain dumb
www.nhra.com/news/2019/inside-pro-stock-motorcycle-engine
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@@cycledrag I am a Suzuki guy until I die!
Thanks so much for all your work posting these videos, it really lifts me out of the gloom, the commentary is so positive and the bikes and riders superb. Thanks.
Stay out of the gloom my brother! You are always welcome here. It's a tough time of year. What do you like better, the v-twins or the Suzukis? Thanks a lot for watching, please get a friend to subscribe as well.
@@cycledrag I love both, don’t see many v twins in the UK, they are so quick! Something different to the 4 ‘s. I love the detail you give about the classes, the engine sizes allowed, the sort of horsepower they are putting out. Yes I tell my friends to watch as it’s fantastic footage. Thanks so much.
the look on those kid's faces at 6:03 is hilarious, too damn cute.... having fun at the track with their dad and grandpa in the middle of a betting frenzy arguing about whether or not a red light makes it a real race or not lol... SGMP reminds me of the down track stands at E-town back in the day.
WE LOVE ALL BIKES!!!
Except that the Harleys haven’t one Harley part in them.
The only harley thing about them is the motor design and even then, it’s been altered. I think the cylinders get offset like 30 degrees from factory or something wild like that. Still badass though 😂
The Suzukis don't have Suzuki parts too.
Really digging your coverage of the Drag Bikes in America thanks friend 👍😎🇦🇺🦘🏁💀F.T.W.
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Well it's hard they all good only thing I'm not keen on is the betting at the track otherwise i can't get enough i hope some day in future you can get down under to see our thunder 👍😎🦘🇦🇺🏁💀F.T.W.
Thank you for all you do @cycledrag! Love the videoes.
DAMN SHE IS FAST !!!
I like the ones that don't need an 800cc advantage...
I like the ones that don't need a 2 cylinder advantage...
WOW AMAZING FANTASTIC SUZUKIS SUPERB I LOVE IT MAGIC ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
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RIP AHDRA Chuck Foreman 🇺🇸❤️
I love anything with wheels and lots of horsepower 😃👍🏻
2600 cc vs 1800 cc. Oh thats fair?? Who' s writing the rules? Suzuki still rules !!
Böla lite ....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So have to limit the cc size of the Japanese bikes just to make it fair for the Hardly go Davidson
Lol
Sounds about right
THANK YOU FOR COMMENTING NO SUCH THING AS PRO STOCK BIKE LETS MAKE THE ENGINE SIZE EQUAL AND WE'LL SEE DAMMIT.
HARDLEY- RIDEABLE HARDLEY DANGEROUS
I see you're new to motor racing.
Nice stickers. Well done!
Love those scale motorcycles behind you 👍
There should be NO betting at the starting line or near it.
I totally agree ..seemed like getto chaos very disappointing to see that type of back ally mentality....take that shit someplace else.
If you wanna be pro ...ACT LIKE A PRO !
@@megadave9941 Remember the Moore incident. Main reason why I don't even watch grudge racing.
@@427Musclecar yea unfortunately i do ..sad an could have been avoided ..
Like I mentioned let's conduct ourselves as professionals there's consequences and repercussions for all of our actions
I agree...
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I love cycle drag
What race is this? Who's the sanctioning body? Is it and annual event I love it! Don't know how I missed it!!
Great video, love Prostock motorcycle
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@@cycledrag Suzuki’s all the way, love those high rpm sounds ....the V twins reminds me of some of those Alcohol dragsters that are fast as hell but sound slow because of the low rpm’s.
4 cylinder all the way. If a 4 wasn't better they wouldn't be handicapped as far as max cc vs the twin.
the 4 cylinder engines are not handicapped at all ...here is the facts as cycle drags dont know nothing about them . Anybody had any brains at all he can find out all he needs to know in about 2 minutes by Googling it but he likes to shoot his mouth off about shit he don't have a clue that start nothing but fights and arguments. Open this web address and you'll see the pictures of both Motors the v twins and the inline fours and all their specifications more than he has brains enough to even know what it means
www.nhra.com/news/2019/inside-pro-stock-motorcycle-engine
@@donniebaker5984 first thing I see when I check that link is V-Twin 160 Cubic Inch Displacement ... Inline 4 113 Cubic Inch Displacement.
No matter how you try to slice it 47 less Cubic Inched for the inline 4 still looks like a handicap to me.
If both motors are limited to 160 Cubic inches, ... or both 113 that would kind of even things up.
Now I'm no rocket scientist I'll admit but there can be a lot of hp to be had in 47 Cubic Inches.
Thanks for watching.
As Donnie said, there are valid and proven reasons as to why there is the displacement disparity
@@taylorgtrotter well I suppose. Maybe you're only allowed a certain amount of hp in that class.
IN 1977,we were at beeline dragway in arizona,we turned 174-5 every time,WITH A 77 cubic inch sportster on fuel..THEN the fateful day came,KOWIE showed up,factory bike,touring the race tracks,showing off,first run,he spun out a 205 first try,I looked at Rodger,I told him,we can't beat these guys,they have too much money,I quit racing that day,we did go to bonniville,set THREE LAND SPEED RECORDS,then went home,that was it for us..just memorys now..and these boys can't pass 205,whats their problem.???
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You are one hell of a comentator! Keep up the great videos.
Let me know what part of that 2600 cc engine is Harley jus asking..
It's all stock from my understanding.
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Nothing!
Who said it was a Harley?
Its a v-twin ,S&S bottom with some buell parts
Thanks for another great video amigo 😎
maybe the rules favor v twins a little too much
I was the 1000 like.. was 999 likes and I hit the button to make it 1,000 👍likes.. hell yea
Dude these are so awesome to watch
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@@cycledrag Those Suzukis are nuts!!!!!!! already have!
Matt Smith 😎🔥🔥🔥😎
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Suzuki....Always loved Steve Johnson 😎
1975 Kawasaki Z1 900 since High School(1980)!
Stolen and partial stripped 10 years ago😡😡😡 Has all the part to put back together when I’m on vacation for the entire month of April(2021)
Always great videos!
everybody wants to sit there and make a bed and talk about how much money they're putting down on the rider but as soon as they lose then all of a sudden there's a problem there's an issue and that goes for both sides with black guys
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ITS NOT A REMATCH! lmaaaooo good intro
I've always wondered why drag racers don't wear GP suits, aren't they supposed to be the most advanced and the toughest? Keep up the cool content
weight probably
Weight and when you come off on a drag strip because it’s sticky you don’t slide you roll, so catching knee sliders and other things isn’t the best
@@alexm668 Makes sense but in my mind you want that airbag tech and the spinal support that they have. They also have the hump which im sure helps with aero once you're tucked in.
It’s true it would be safe, but drag racers don’t crash very often, so they don’t see the need. MotoGP guys might crash every weekend. Drag racers could go a decade or more without a mishap
@@alexm668 Fair enough, circuit riders do go down waaay more often.
I had a street bike many years ago. It was fast for its time - 125mph in 1/4 mile.
That bike was scary fast to me. But to go 200mph on a bike in 1/4 mile - no way I would get on one ! (and they are slow compared to top fuel bikes!)
Them V Twins are the real deal..
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Damn these bike can accelerate
The concessions they had to give to make Harleys competitive in this class are a little ridiculous...
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I definitely prefer the Suzuki’s, I think they play into the spirit of racing better and are superior from a power delivery stand point. I feel like the direction the class is/was going, favoring the Harley’s, is akin to that of the late 60s Mopar aero-cars in NASCAR.
@@mike3684 Check WSBK from the early days to now. Ducati achieved most of its wins because it was allowed a cc advantage due to it being a v twin. Yet no one bashes them, in fact people praise them.
@@johncarl5505 you’re 100% correct, and as an AHRMA next Gen. Superbike racer/fan, I’m (unfortunately) fully aware of how a 1991 gsxr 750 making 115-ish crank HP gets thoroughly out classes by a Ducati 888… (1000cc). I only brought up Harley bc they happen to be the subject of this class…
@@mike3684 Hard to balance different types of engines without enforcing BOP.
Love it!
You are so great, i like your video. Fantastic job
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@@cycledrag the suzuki,but the pro -bikes are realy incredibel.
V twins will surprise.
Man, Harley has really stepped the game up in the "fast and quick" department. No longer underdogs..they are top dogs
How involved is factory-Harley with the engineering, development, and production of the Pro Stock bike engines?
@@sking2173 None. Just like most of the manufacturers. But it is a vtwin.
I was referring to "street bikes "
having a 58 cubic inch advantage sounds really fair doesn't it?
I know you're not referring to the EBR as a goddamn Harley. Because it ain't a pos Harley. They missed that boat.
These are a handicap match buell will never beat Suzuki straight up not a chance in hell
Hello when I was a kid in jr high school my dad got me a new suzukis 90 I road it to school and back when I got grown I moved out and some one stole it I wish today I had it.were you buy the shirts from?
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i had no idea that ebr had an aftermarket. did the aftermarket ever fix the part throttle fueling of these bikes?
Never heard of that name called throttle feeling as a problem but the ebr's are even up with a Ducati on a road course exactly the same price to the penny exactly the same horsepower and there's like a militia I guess you'd call him or more like vigilantes letter hired assailants to destroy the Harley-Davidson motor County Waste they have this year it's it's over don't have to worry about Harley's anymore cuz they won't be making him after this year and I did the same thing to Eric deal every time he's bringing out a new bike well he's still producing for his friends and Close Associates Erik Buell racing and it doesn't have a Harley-Davidson motor in it instead it has a airplane engine in it Primrose tax double overhead cam 9 degree V-Twin what's 180 miles per hour top speed it'll cruise down the Interstate 160 what's not being said here when you set one up for National Hot Rod Association Pro Stock racing you have to use the engine that the National Hot Rod Association Pro Stock racing rules tells you to use or you do not get to race your bike and relax the last 20 years Vance & Hines and their Associates was Association have been keeping both playing fields of the V-Twin stand in line scores he perform within a tenth of a second and a couple of miles per hour either way the closest Moe's Eagle racing there's been in 20 years well this is Nikki people said well is it fair for Harley-Davidson to have a bigger engine than the Suzuki yes it is fair because this is Vicky has twice as many valve twice as many kisses twice-baked powerstrokes and turn 5000 RPMs faster and weighs 40 lb lighter but not anymore as today Vance & Hines and in Tracy NHRA got tired of hearing the crybaby and just this past week they launched a 1850 cc four cylinder 16 valve monster that post over 400 horsepower to the rear tire so there's not going to be any more equal parody in Pro Stock motorcycles anymore it's going to be this new Billet Suzuki special purpose built engine that I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't turn low five or high five as it's all Billet Fancy Nails engine cases jug cylinder head all the way to build is built for one purpose and this goes faster than he has ever gone before this naturally-aspirated and I've been trying to find anything for the last two days on the latest from the V-Twin died of Vance Hines they're not in talking about I don't think we're in going to run one anymore I got to leave that up to the privateers and fend for themselves places I'll never beat that Suzuki the best nice just built and they built it all themselves in house right down the street here for me a 50 minute drive to their shop and Brownsburg Indiana as I just live 15 minutes west of there 00 cycle drag dude sounds meet you at the bait as he believes his information is correct about Harley biker belt has it been raining in Myrtle Park campground well he's right 20 years ago that the reals change every year sometimes twice a year until I bet him $1,000 and he's going to put me on camera and we're going to have our load debate but I'm not going to tell him anything but true stories as right now I'm going to call my buddy Eddie Trawick hereditary Wiki explain to mr. Cycle drag what's real and what's not as I'm going to challenge him to meet me over here advance in Hines World Headquarters and Brownsburg Indiana and we're going to have our little chat like being in a thousand bucks he's wrong and I'm right so this you going pretty good on RUclips I think Zephyr cycledrag Justin still in his view of what happened 20 years ago thinking that's what they're still doing today in the real world Dunn County right now bye bye
Why is a v twin chassis twice the price of a Suzuki chassis?
How did he win with a redlight?
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~IT'S NOT A REEEMAAATCH!
The Harleys have rules that are much more suitably favorable for the Harleys to beat the Kawys. The Kawys are beasts. Without restrictions straight up the Kaws would eat them
Up. The race guys know it and that’s why they make the rules the way they are.
I see you're new to motor racing.
The only thing Harley Davidson about those "bikes" is the decal.
No shit
Who said it was a Harley? Learn to read
GO ANGIE!!!!!
Angie Thiccc
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Suzuki for sure!! I had a couple myself. Much respect for the Harleys but I feel the NHRA created and bent some rules for the twins. That said I love all drag racing but nice to see Suzuki win.
AWESOME
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Are those v twins from Star racing?
Get another camera for the big end... The show otherwise is stellar.
FIRST OF ALL,THE "HARLEY" PRO STOCKERS ARE NOY HARLEYS. THEY ARE BILLET V&H. THEY ARE ALSO TWICE THE SIZE OF THE SUZUKI'S. PRO STOCK
Actually the purple bike is not V&H,, It’s a EBR,, Eric Buell Racing. The guy who had the Buell rice rocket style bikes with the Harley engines in them in the 80s. Harley bought out Buell and then closed down that program unfortunately. So this is Mr Eric’s new adventure in life. And the twins are 2600cc. The 4s are 1800cc mostly billet engines also
Meanwhile, Chris Moore did a 1/4 mile on a GSX-R1000 at 234mph without a wheelie bar, and I think it's street legal...
AND??? Should i applause??.
@@bobvido9875 Yeah. World record for the fastest GSX-R1000 without a wheelie bar. It's a pretty cool accomplishment for a bike you can ride on the street, to be beating these one off pro drag bikes...
no bars and no slicks is why you can not race pro street under NHRA sanction because no bars and no slicks is very unsafe ..street tires after a burn out are unpredictable and with no bars can slip then hook going 20 feet in the air pitching the rider off with bike landing inches away from the rider .thats why jack always says no bars and street tires , he likes to see them crash and gets more views $$$
I was there these bikes were hauling >
Great video dude good ole grudge and pro stock bikes trying to change the records lol 👍🏻😂
Stock? Come on. Only the air in the tires is stock
Harley running twice the motor!! Give some edge, but not that much!!
Steve Johnson king of the hobby racer's est 1987
Where’s the 400mph bike
Angie wouldn’t be intimidating in the bedroom at all….
American 🇺🇸 flags on Japanese Suzuki bikes?🙄🤦🏻
There's nothing like drag racing instead of the oval track . "There making a LEFT TURN " !!!!!!!!! Around and around and around !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Around and around and around @@%%$:$^$:
Why do the harley's sound like weed whackers?
Because there is nothing about the engine that's made by Harley-Davidson nothing at all it's a 60-degree V-Twin that's turning over 10,000 RPM making 400 horsepower with a five and a quarter inch bore and a 3 and 7/8 in stroke if you want all the specs of the only two engines allowed by nhra rules here is everything sbout them www.nhra.com/news/2019/inside-pro-stock-motorcycle-engine
Because their not Singer sewing machines. Like your Hokayasu sewing machine!
What about the engine cost and whole bike cost of a all Hayabusa and zx14?
A pro street bike is about $75k, just the long block is probably $15k
@@alexm668 i mean in prostock trim to run prostock.
Oh sorry, I don’t believe you can run a busa or zx14 style engine in the NHRA it has to be GS based.
@@alexm668 here are the specs of the only two engines allowed
www.nhra.com/news/2019/inside-pro-stock-motorcycle-engine
And they are both built by Vance & Hines at their world headquarters in Brownsburg Indiana neither does S&S or Suzuki have anything to do with it
donnie baker yeah GS engine 👍 they are going to the 4 valve engine this year, which is almost a busa motor and the will be able to run busa bodywork actually
🇳🇿👍Orsome 👌🇺🇸
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Where are the prostock Hayabusas and xz14s?
There are only two custom made engines for nhra pro stock motorcycle not made by any manufacture do this means in nhra there are no production motorcycles allowed period ..
here is the rules
www.nhra.com/news/2019/inside-pro-stock-motorcycle-engine
It would be nice. It's time. They need to re write the rules for that to happen. Heck take off the wheelie bars while you are it.
I just figured it out. The Hayabusas and zx14s are too fast for prostock and they won't let them run.
That's pretty good for a boy your age a very good observation same reason they don't run funny cars and rail Dragsters against Pro Stock cars either cuz double a fuel dragsters and funny cars run over 300 in the quarter there too fast for the class. National Hot Rod Association has rules and regulations that must be met so it's not a free-for-all like you're used to seeing. This class in Pro Stock motorcycles was started by Terry Vance and Matt Hines in 1983 as closely as can be built do the same as Pro Stock cars all naturally aspirated running on exactly the same gasoline from the same pump
by the way a Hayabusa advertise quarter mile times is 9.7 seconds in a quarter mile that makes them too slow to run Pro Stock as these guys are running 3 seconds quicker than a Hayabusa and 60 miles an hour faster than a Hayabusa in a quarter mile
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@@cycledrag motorcycles that have the greatest chance to win ,cuz second place is only the first loser. and so far I haven't found a updated rule change for V-Twin says they're still under the rules set in 2019 as Vance Hine engines are the only ones that are allowed on the track in nhra pro stock v-twin FXDRS Milwaukee eight that angelle sampey Vance & Hines new drag race team member won the us nationals and the 2020 nhra world championship pro stock and ebr pro stock and this year vance&hines will win the National Hot Rod Association Pro Stock Motorcycle drag bike world's Championship this year with a four cylinder configuration that's all liquid Cooled dual overhead cam all Billet aluminum twin swirl combustion chamber four valves per cylinder with no shim buckets on the valve spring trainers but instead have automatic hydraulic adjusted rockers to open and close the valves similar to the first GSX 1100 that were air-cooled as if New Suzuki Pro Stock engine is built under the new rules for 2021 over 1800 CC turning over 13000 RPM with a one-piece steel crankshaft with plain bearing Mains and plain bearing rods and will make 400 horsepower at the rear tire so Harley's will not ever have a chance to Harley-Davidson pulled out of drag racing dirt track racing and 2015 was there last year in road racing they are not sponsoring anybody no contingencies broke their 20-year long contract partnership Vance & Hines and fired the American flat track team not even dealer support no more Screaming Eagles no more performance parts nothing this year they offer three motorcycles and they're all baggers no new models but they're still teasing us with the Pan-American dirt Glide that's completely ugly in a fugly way like in 1957 Sears and Roebuck riding lawn mower they've been bragging about the last five years are coming out at all they will continue running the Livewire as one of those stock OutRunner Tesla in a quarter mile but that will be short-lived as 5 years ago the Skunk Works of Honda called Mugen have an electric bike that is twice as fast accelerating twice as fast on top end and will go twice as far on a charge at top speed and I predict it will be half the cost to Byron as a library something about a Honda that not too many people know that Honda certified technicians like myself who is trained under the instruction of Pop Yoshimura the world's greatest tuner there ever was bar none and Honda does not have to make a profit on any motorcycle they have ever sold since 1959 since that time there has been several models that Honda sold retail for less money than ithen the cost they had in it and they'll do it again and they'll make Harley-Davidson look at silly again and the people who pay $30,000 for one when they get have my Honda twice as fast for half the money and I'll go twice as far as charge will pretty much put Harley-Davidson out of business forever but that's what everybody wants and I really don't give a shit cuz my next Harley-Davidson I'm going to hand build it myself from the ground up like they should have been a single cam gear driven Evo unit construction with the 5-speed transmission bolted to the engine like the last 2017 dyna s made will a 4 and 1/4 inch bore and a three and a half inch stroke was connecting rods about an inch longer than stock intestines that are extremely high pressure extruded diecast that do not expand at all can be fitted as close to the thousandths of an inch clearance between the piston in the center off as Honda in their cars back in I was six out of your eyes found it this type of piston has 4% less coefficients of friction don't have a board like a 572 Chevy and a stroke of an LS Corvette engine now we need is one of those f i Tech plug-and-play stand-alone fuel injectors throttle body MSD ignition box with Nitrous Express dry NOS..with the bore and stroke will be just over 100÷ cubic inches of displacement what's the entire engine dynamically balanced a Precision balance Company of Indianapolis oh yeah and by the way Harley does have a pretty good little trick up your sleeve this year as they finally Tech weather Bonneville Salt Flats record holders the Jim's 131 engine and put it in one of those Softail power Cruisers and it's making 121 horsepower and 135 foot pounds of torque at the rear tire stock right out of the crate no mods at all so it should run like my 2017 117 in Dyna s that made the same horsepower with a stage 4 Kit and I opted out for the off-road racing heads 2 years ago with fresh tts tune at the all out dyno drags 9.6 in a quarter mile at 123 miles per hour against the Hayabusa that turned 9.7 at 130 miles per hour then the conversation sprocket popped off center message to primary chain turn the clutch basket in the gravel Twisted the crankshaft and totaled it as we had the heaviest Duty Screamin Eagle clutch ever made and it's not have to Strong Enough that I'm sure they fixed it right now or maybe not that's the only answer for a big twin clutch is from Baker clutches and Transmissions as his King Kong clutch as he calls it is the same clutch packs with 20 plates out of a Cadillac STS 650 horse supercharged
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What do you like better, the v-twins or the Suzukis? Thanks a lot for watching, please get a friend to subscribe as well.
I have a Suzuki V-twin! My favorites.
Why the difference in displacement and weight, when they are the same. Then come back
Cut off the extra 2 cylinders of the Suzuki while you're at it.
@@johncarl5505 do they get the larger displacement and weight brake?
@@brianpreston8483 Sure, make sure to switch to pushrods as well. Convert the remaining inline twin into a 45 v twin too for maximum equality.
@@johncarl5505 that's like saying that Harley should do an inline 4 with over head cams to compete
@@brianpreston8483 If you want it that way, sure. You want them to be equal right?
Are u gonna do anymore videos on super cross? Seems u get to the news the quickest
Thanks Conway! I would like to for sure. The pandemic has made it difficult to cover anything lately. Where do you live and what do you ride? Do you enjoy watching these drag bikes as well?
@@cycledrag I got a 2021 ktm 450sxf factory edition and 2014 ktm 250xcw Ifrom the east coast
@@cycledrag yea bro I like watching any kind of motorcycle videos my passion is just for dirt bikes but any bike is awesome in it’s own way
coment no one
Say what?
Fly down the track at 200mph......afraid of a common cold virus. Yup.
Crazy that a v twin can hang with a jap bike. It’s surprising that the v twin dosent sound more badass. I’d think with that much power it would sound insane
I love cycle drag
What do you like better, the v-twins or the Suzukis? Thanks a lot for watching, please get a friend to subscribe as well.
FIRST OF ALL,THE "HARLEY" PRO STOCKERS ARE NOY HARLEYS. THEY ARE BILLET V&H. THEY ARE ALSO TWICE THE SIZE OF THE SUZUKI'S. PRO STOCK
Thought they were EBRs.