We all know cops using radar are not visually estimating speeds before using the gun. Ive seen cops hidden around corners and it would be virtually impossible for them to visually estimate the car’s speed. And unless theirs camera’s on in the cab doppler is always turned off.
@@1DRIPSTER They all testify that they "estimated" the speed of X vehicle, BUT 1. Are they able to accurately do that, particularly if there's NO reference to use like a post or fence to gauge speed and 2. At night, its near impossible to estimate speed at any range.
Thanks for the video I didn't even know they could track 2 vehicles at a time. I will definitely slow down when my R7 goes off when I'm behind 1 vehicle!! Thanks again
Great video, however, I suspect the MPH Ranger EZ does not modulate its RF output to establish target range information as suggested. The RANGER EZ Traffic Radar likely uses a type of Multiple Frequency Transmitting Radar System (MFTRS). In this particular case, I suspect, it involves the use of two continuous wave signals, frequency locked a few hundred kHz apart from each other. To establish the range of a target, the Ranger EZ probably relies on the phase difference of the two distinct Doppler reflections produced by the MFTRS transmitter, whereas, the further the target, the greater the phase difference between the two reflections. For further information, you might wish to review US Patent 6,798,374 from September 28, 2004.
I saw this as a bullet point on MPH's web page for this system. Have you looked into using this feature? "Integrated video interface for MPH and most competitors in-car video systems"
You sure it’s not the Bee III? Those are a similar model without ranging info that are actively used by the WSP. I’ll be doing a video on that one soon too.
9C1 is the man!!! All around nice guy and very knowledgeable too!! Fortunately, Most departments who had them run C/O K Band because they're using the range finder and if you're running a good RD, you can pick it up. They run it C/O to use the ATI function ( Advanced Target Identification) and the Safety Zone Function while stopped . Does his unit have the Safety Zone on it??? Biggest problem with K band is many drivers now ignore it because of falsing.
Deeper question on frequency. Would my R3 see two K band sources per antenna or one K band source per antenna? If two, would it be constantly be switching between stronger and weaker signal, or would it stick with one, kind of like a BSM?
What would happen if you had past a LEO who is running radar at you and your running that Ranger unit, would either of you get a reading? Would both guns be 'confused" and fail to show a speed?
You lucky DOG!! (even if only 'testing' with it) Always wanted one - a nice step above the MPH BEE III. Take care hope the family and you are doing well. Spin (Fan noise - reason most LEO's mount their horn up top of the window. Seems to help with fan noise / interference)
Ah yeah, it's so cool to finally get to use. I've been running the Bee III since and obviously it lacks the distance info, but the more compact size and better acquisition at a distance are a nice change. The fan noise thing for whatever reason I wasn't able to fully eliminate. I tried different mounting locations and heights with no luck unfortunately, hence the need to fall back to running without my fan on, lol. Family-wise, we're doing great here! Luna's been teething some more this weekend, but otherwise everything's great here! I hope you and your family are doing awesome as well. :)
@@VortexRadar Fan noise - yes I understand the pain of trying to 'remove' it. Reason some places only use outside horns mounts (along with possible radiation exposure problems) Thank you for the video - take care you 'lucky dog'. lol
Do you have a site for general best settings after the 1.35 update on the R7,I had my new R7 set to your settings you had listed on your site,but now that I have updated to 1.35 software,I was wondering what would be the best settings on a general setting
Escort usually has the most up to date info about that on their RL360c page. bit.ly/EscortRedline360c For example right now it says end of March sometime.
Great information Vortex however I wonder how accurate this radar gun is on the highway with three lanes or more. I got a ticket before from a stationary Trooper with many cars on the highway
That’s where front and rear car cams come in handy. If you can show other cars speeding faster around you then argue in court the officer picked the wrong vehicle. But make sure you’re disable showing your speed on the camera.
I live in a small town and these cops started to turn off there radars and now my detector doesn't go off as much so they must be using pop? Can you show how pop works and can they still save my speed for a ticket or anything? And can you start showing the weak zone of the radar so I can know what to do to try stay out of tickets.
It's generally just your normal instant on radar. Not POP. This video explains more: ruclips.net/video/Siv--_3eTxs/видео.html This video goes into way more detail about POP vs IO and more: ruclips.net/video/WLOTCJUJoIk/видео.html
Every speed you're getting could be incorrect. You never performed a tuning fork test which is used to calibrate the radar. A correct tuning fork test will tell you if the radar is displaying the correct speed. A radar in proper calibration will be + or - 1 mph when the fork test is performed.
If you look at 16:18, you'll see that the antenna they tested with was centered at 24.1276 GHz. According the manual, it's designed to transmit at 24.125 GHz +/- 50 MHz.
Friend, I've beem watching your videos for a long time I even bought a uniden r7 . Could you help me please 🙏 with more info for the autovision bee 3 radar , I am trying to demostrate that it has harmonics and could have been influenced by the car static and harmonics as well as if there is a car traveling by target vehicle. Please help me , thank you. And if I can buy this type of radar.
you are going to lose this case. the radar is just a confirmation to the officers visual estimation. so if the judge asks if the officer thinks your car was going the speed he saw on the radar gun and he says "yes" that is it . the judge won't even want to hear your case. they will trust the officer's visual estimation
No - with a rear 'horn' it will detect vehicles coming toward you or away from you.. Same for the front.. coming toward you etc. Fastest mode / stationary / same lane / directional (only vehicles coming toward your or away that ignores targets going the opposite way) Some models have all this and more but depends on models. (aka costs go up also and your local / state laws on radar.)
Simple answer is no. With that said, the Stalker DSR2X can track 4 cars at the same time. Front and rear, and front/rear opposite. Some radar guns are not able to, or not allowed to (example is PA).
and honestly most cops like laser guns for stationary speed checks. it is easy to point and shoot. hard to detect and it can tell which car is speeding . radars are good for low traffic or moving mode. A bit confusing hoenstly I have a MPH python 2 and some times is hard to tell which car is speeding in packs unless the car is really blazing through traffic. So radar for low traffic, cops will continue to use laser for dense traffic .
@@VortexRadar Same principles, different casings and shapes. Guns are pointed at targets like a handgun, but the modules are flat box modules and they sit on your dashboard or wherever you want to put them. A gun has a trigger where is the modules carry a remote be a wireless or wired. If you’re not sure, you can call MPH and ask them. I worked in the business for many, many years. Have a wonderful day friend. Thank you for what you do!
@@alexnutcasio936 Alex you can take what I said or you can ask a police officer. It’s not splitting hairs to be accurate. There is also 34.7 which is stalker Radar and various other ones too. Decatur makes them also. They’re either guns or their modules. I can ask my 13-year-old son to bring me one of my Radar units and he gets a big puzzled look In his eyes. He’s thinking which one? Do I get the module, or do I get the gun? Do you see what I’m saying now? Have a wonderful evening and just know that I appreciate vortex very much and all that he does. Nothing but respect.
@@Rainlover1984 in the enforcement business, we all know what is a module and a gun, but in general use, they're all guns. The module just happens to require an antenna whereas a gun has it built in. Ultimately, they all do the same thing, use microwaves to determine speed. Fortunately, they dont have modules for police lidar, or we'd be calling those lidar guns too.
You make some of the best, most informative, and detailed videos on RUclips. Your professionalism is always impressive, keep up the great work.
This guy probably knows more about the Ranger than most cops.
We all know cops using radar are not visually estimating speeds before using the gun. Ive seen cops hidden around corners and it would be virtually impossible for them to visually estimate the car’s speed. And unless theirs camera’s on in the cab doppler is always turned off.
@@1DRIPSTER They all testify that they "estimated" the speed of X vehicle, BUT 1. Are they able to accurately do that, particularly if there's NO reference to use like a post or fence to gauge speed and 2. At night, its near impossible to estimate speed at any range.
@1Dripster Then you see they said they did on the affidavit #perjury
This is all relatively basic information about how the Ranger functions... cops definitively know how it works lol.
Dalton Smith they do? One hour class and certification. Sure they do.
This is a bad ass unit
Thanks for the video I didn't even know they could track 2 vehicles at a time. I will definitely slow down when my R7 goes off when I'm behind 1 vehicle!! Thanks again
Great video, however, I suspect the MPH Ranger EZ does not modulate its RF output to establish target range information as suggested.
The RANGER EZ Traffic Radar likely uses a type of Multiple Frequency Transmitting Radar System (MFTRS). In this particular case, I suspect, it involves the use of two continuous wave signals, frequency locked a few hundred kHz apart from each other.
To establish the range of a target, the Ranger EZ probably relies on the phase difference of the two distinct Doppler reflections produced by the MFTRS transmitter, whereas, the further the target, the greater the phase difference between the two reflections.
For further information, you might wish to review US Patent 6,798,374 from September 28, 2004.
Awesome video
I've only seen 1 of those in SC. Surprised they are not more common because its a pretty impressive device...Great job..
I saw this as a bullet point on MPH's web page for this system. Have you looked into using this feature?
"Integrated video interface for MPH and most competitors in-car video systems"
Ah cool. I haven’t messed with that.
I've seen these in WSP cars and some other cars in Washington.
You sure it’s not the Bee III? Those are a similar model without ranging info that are actively used by the WSP. I’ll be doing a video on that one soon too.
I'll have to take a look again. LT's will sometimes try out new units. Olympia, Yakima and Spokane usually try stuff out.
Mr vortex is on top of everything
Love the video!
Watched and liked. Very cool, thanks Vortex!
Just curious, is it legal for a regular citizen to use speed measuring devices, like laser and radar guns?
As long as you don't try to pull someone over or impersonarte law enformcent in any other manner there is no problem.
9C1 is the man!!! All around nice guy and very knowledgeable too!! Fortunately, Most departments who had them run C/O K Band because they're using the range finder and if you're running a good RD, you can pick it up. They run it C/O to use the ATI function ( Advanced Target Identification) and the Safety Zone Function while stopped . Does his unit have the Safety Zone on it??? Biggest problem with K band is many drivers now ignore it because of falsing.
Safety Zone is at 9:30 ;)
Great info and very interesting, thanks!
Deeper question on frequency. Would my R3 see two K band sources per antenna or one K band source per antenna? If two, would it be constantly be switching between stronger and weaker signal, or would it stick with one, kind of like a BSM?
I tested a bunch of detectors and they all alert as just one signal, just like a BSM like you said. :)
@@VortexRadarInteresting. Thanks for the response. I know you’re quite busy.
@@VortexRadar Same question about the R7? I'm guessing since the R3 and R7 are very similar, R7 also only sees 1 threat?
Every detector including the R7 showed one signal
Great review and very informative.
Great review!
A radar gun is a radio wave transmitter. Are any FCC licenses required to own or operate one?
This is a Part 15 unit so no special licenses needed.
According to Tamil, its a Radar Module......
What would happen if you had past a LEO who is running radar at you and your running that Ranger unit, would either of you get a reading? Would both guns be 'confused" and fail to show a speed?
Both would work normally
You lucky DOG!! (even if only 'testing' with it) Always wanted one - a nice step above the MPH BEE III. Take care hope the family and you are doing well. Spin (Fan noise - reason most LEO's mount their horn up top of the window. Seems to help with fan noise / interference)
Ah yeah, it's so cool to finally get to use. I've been running the Bee III since and obviously it lacks the distance info, but the more compact size and better acquisition at a distance are a nice change. The fan noise thing for whatever reason I wasn't able to fully eliminate. I tried different mounting locations and heights with no luck unfortunately, hence the need to fall back to running without my fan on, lol. Family-wise, we're doing great here! Luna's been teething some more this weekend, but otherwise everything's great here! I hope you and your family are doing awesome as well. :)
@@VortexRadar Fan noise - yes I understand the pain of trying to 'remove' it. Reason some places only use outside horns mounts (along with possible radiation exposure problems) Thank you for the video - take care you 'lucky dog'. lol
Great job about that
That is a cool radar gun. What bands? Are they still in use today?
I can't imagine any LEO listening to those tones. I nearly got a headache after 30 seconds, haha
Legally, some states require that you NOT disengage or turn off the Doppler. In fact, FL requires it stay on all the time.
Yep... heh
@@VortexRadar No wonder they're always so angry when they pull me over. :p
Do you have a site for general best settings after the 1.35 update on the R7,I had my new R7 set to your settings you had listed on your site,but now that I have updated to 1.35 software,I was wondering what would be the best settings on a general setting
You bet! www.vortexradar.com/2019/04/how-to-set-up-configure-uniden-r7-radar-detector/
Get those guys at Rodenso whatever they need !!! Question, is the ranger hard to detect or just run of the mill gun?
K band is typically easy peasey............IO in the right hands can be deadly though in any frequency.
Anyone know what percentage of speeding tickets in Northern California are given with radar vs laser?
Any one know how long the back order wait time is for the Redline 360c?
Escort usually has the most up to date info about that on their RL360c page. bit.ly/EscortRedline360c For example right now it says end of March sometime.
@@VortexRadar Sweet, thanks. Are they usually accurate?
Great information Vortex however I wonder how accurate this radar gun is on the highway with three lanes or more. I got a ticket before from a stationary Trooper with many cars on the highway
That’s where front and rear car cams come in handy. If you can show other cars speeding faster around you then argue in court the officer picked the wrong vehicle. But make sure you’re disable showing your speed on the camera.
@@A-Z-nu2co Thanks for the information
When is thiea coming out? Thats the question.
Great video on a somewhat obscure unit. Do your top RDs (R7/R360c/G2) detect this gun at 24.127GHz?
I live in a small town and these cops started to turn off there radars and now my detector doesn't go off as much so they must be using pop? Can you show how pop works and can they still save my speed for a ticket or anything? And can you start showing the weak zone of the radar so I can know what to do to try stay out of tickets.
It's generally just your normal instant on radar. Not POP. This video explains more: ruclips.net/video/Siv--_3eTxs/видео.html
This video goes into way more detail about POP vs IO and more: ruclips.net/video/WLOTCJUJoIk/видео.html
Every speed you're getting could be incorrect. You never performed a tuning fork test which is used to calibrate the radar. A correct tuning fork test will tell you if the radar is displaying the correct speed. A radar in proper calibration will be + or - 1 mph when the fork test is performed.
7:26 Mom must not have been the fastest or strongest signal. I'm guessing 2 MPH.
People with radar detectors, "where the hell is the cop" !
Watching this video tell me a lot of people have been written tickets, and were innocent. Essentially on busy multilane interstates.
I imagine many cops make mistakes and give tickets to the cars or drivers they dislike the most.
What frequency would this be on a radar detector?
This is a K band gun
What k band ghz does it run at?
If you look at 16:18, you'll see that the antenna they tested with was centered at 24.1276 GHz. According the manual, it's designed to transmit at 24.125 GHz +/- 50 MHz.
Ok good to know
Is it as fast a Falcon?
Friend, I've beem watching your videos for a long time I even bought a uniden r7 . Could you help me please 🙏 with more info for the autovision bee 3 radar , I am trying to demostrate that it has harmonics and could have been influenced by the car static and harmonics as well as if there is a car traveling by target vehicle. Please help me , thank you. And if I can buy this type of radar.
you are going to lose this case. the radar is just a confirmation to the officers visual estimation. so if the judge asks if the officer thinks your car was going the speed he saw on the radar gun and he says "yes" that is it . the judge won't even want to hear your case. they will trust the officer's visual estimation
Do all radar guns only work in one direction only when in moving mode?
No - with a rear 'horn' it will detect vehicles coming toward you or away from you.. Same for the front.. coming toward you etc. Fastest mode / stationary / same lane / directional (only vehicles coming toward your or away that ignores targets going the opposite way) Some models have all this and more but depends on models. (aka costs go up also and your local / state laws on radar.)
Simple answer is no. With that said, the Stalker DSR2X can track 4 cars at the same time. Front and rear, and front/rear opposite. Some radar guns are not able to, or not allowed to (example is PA).
I bet cops like that unit which will keep them using radar over laser, and I like that.
not if you have jammers lol
and honestly most cops like laser guns for stationary speed checks. it is easy to point and shoot. hard to detect and it can tell which car is speeding . radars are good for low traffic or moving mode. A bit confusing hoenstly I have a MPH python 2 and some times is hard to tell which car is speeding in packs unless the car is really blazing through traffic.
So radar for low traffic, cops will continue to use laser for dense traffic .
@9:37 Customer or victim? XD
Well, I have definitely learned something interesting about police radar system today. Thanks ! :D
Welcome to the Dark Side.
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It is a radar module. Not a gun. Just thought I would correct the record. LOL.
Which part? The whole thing I refer to as a radar gun, but sure it uses a radar module that's powered by a gunn diode.
Splittin Hairs there mate. We know what it is and what it does. Yes, you can also run it on 33.8 or 24.150 depending on antenna.
@@VortexRadar Same principles, different casings and shapes. Guns are pointed at targets like a handgun, but the modules are flat box modules and they sit on your dashboard or wherever you want to put them. A gun has a trigger where is the modules carry a remote be a wireless or wired. If you’re not sure, you can call MPH and ask them. I worked in the business for many, many years. Have a wonderful day friend. Thank you for what you do!
@@alexnutcasio936 Alex you can take what I said or you can ask a police officer. It’s not splitting hairs to be accurate. There is also 34.7 which is stalker Radar and various other ones too. Decatur makes them also. They’re either guns or their modules. I can ask my 13-year-old son to bring me one of my Radar units and he gets a big puzzled look In his eyes. He’s thinking which one? Do I get the module, or do I get the gun? Do you see what I’m saying now? Have a wonderful evening and just know that I appreciate vortex very much and all that he does. Nothing but respect.
@@Rainlover1984 in the enforcement business, we all know what is a module and a gun, but in general use, they're all guns. The module just happens to require an antenna whereas a gun has it built in. Ultimately, they all do the same thing, use microwaves to determine speed. Fortunately, they dont have modules for police lidar, or we'd be calling those lidar guns too.