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Forgot to talk about his Constellations! His C1 and C2 both offer a massive damage increase similar to his weapon. Because Chev is on this banner, I'd recommend Cons>Weapon for now, and in the future it's up to you, both are great (especially with new fate point system).
Have you take into account that in burning teams, with the right animation cancels, it is possible to reliably get 5 cannon shot, thus improving his DPS a lot ? The cancels avaliable to my knowledge are : 1) When you just fired a canon ball, use Ultimate : during this time burning stacks will triger and once out of burst a new canon ball is already ready. 2) Cancel shooting animation, by holding E for a short amount of time instead of tapping it, the shooting animation is canceled, by donig it 4 times, you can get the 5th cannon shoot. 3) Cancel the animation of Kinich ending his loop shoot. Basically, when he is gaining stacks at some point, when the bar is almost filled up, stoping doing loopshoots will enable skipping the animation of kinich ending loopshots. Canceling this is also enough to guaranty the 5th cannon shot.
Lynette's burst pyro infused is very nice. Taunts enemys (even larger bosses), her A4 buffs attack%, refreshes pyro application and cand use deepwood! Can be a good replacement for xiangling
exact same thing, I just wanted chevvy for my arleccino and ended up getting raiden dehya and 2 kinichs before i finally got c6. Words could not describe how bad that felt until I played with him in the open field, instantly one of my fav characters to play as lol
He's just as fun to explore as he is to combat since his gameplay is practically a mini-game where you have to maximize his point generation while avoiding enemy attacks.
12:33 Minor error here, C6 Thoma does not buff Kinich's normal attack damage (unless you're doing normals outside his E-state). His normals inside his E-state are considered Elemental skill damage (similar to how raiden's normals in her burst-state are all considered burst damage) additional nerdy information: 18:16 You couldn't get burgeon's in xingqiu+xiangling or yelan+xiangling cause you're applying too much pyro. When an enemy is burning, and when you apply hydro, you're consuming the pyro-aura first hence you can't react with the underlying dendro-aura to create bloom seeds. That's why you actually want slower pyro application e.g. thoma or dehya, this way you will not apply pyro as much. This is actually why burgeon is less popular than hyperbloom, it's much harder to create blooms cause of how the elemental-auras interact. BUT another way to counteract the pyro-aura is actually using other elements. Theory crafters actually have a name for this e.g. Curry: where you use electro to consume the pyro-aura hence creating more blooms (sample: thoma, fischl, nahida, xingqiu); oven: where you use cryo to consume the pyro aura also making you create more blooms (sample: thoma, kaeya, nahida, xingqiu)
Awww, so C6 Thoma doesn't actually buff him?:( this makes me so sad. Can you suggest an alternative character? My team was Kinich, Emilie, Thoma, and Benny. (I don't have Furina Incase u'll suggest her)
@@yukiakabane8381 There's actually not a lot of other alternative off-field pyro right now, that's why you see a lot of CC's saying "he has a lot of future potential". It's also why Thoma is actually still "decent" for kinich, since the other alternatives are just Xiangling and Dehya, both also don't buff kinich with their base kit. - The most important thing to keep in mind though is to make sure thoma or xiangling or dehya is holding the 4pc deepwood (while kinich and emilie are using their signature sets), 4pc deepwood set is more important *in this case* than the actual off-field pyro teammate
Hey can anyone tell me if I can use kinich Bennet xiangling dehya(deepwood) I don't have Emilie.. and I didn't see anyone using this team comp.. what's the problem in this
Hey can anyone tell me if I can use kinich Bennet xiangling dehya(deepwood) I don't have Emilie.. and I didn't see anyone using this team comp.. what's the problem in this
I think you are wrong about the blindspot zone, it gives points for charging the canon shoot rather than extending the skill duration! Other than that ty for the video!
I’m so happy I got him. My only regret was skipping Emily for burning boost but I got very lucky with the natlan artifacts farming, so I can’t complain.
I pulled him, and have absolutely no regrets, just his kit being this fun is so refreshing.. I have Neuv, Arle, etc, that does way more damage, but they’re so bland to play
@@SSABIRR-69 I mean, he does have the best exploration ability so far for natlan, maybe mavuika will have a better one because shes the archon but rn his is the best
Fighting Kinich in Natlan sometimes is a PAIN when a fight is happening near these ari exploration things. He reacts on them with his grappling hook instead of attacking enemy...
i think we're gearing up for mavuika being a xiangling replacement w another type of strong buffing (ala bennett/attack, nahida/EM, furina/DMG%) and my theory/guess is she'll give an increase to the whole team crit DMG. a character that gives more significant buffs to crit DMG doesn't exist yet (to my memory), we have a few sources of crit rate buffing in kits via hu tao and rosaria (albeit fairly minor overall), a few cons, and now two artifact sets that give insane bumps to crit rate. i think mavuika will fall in line with the last 3 archons and make character building easier to balance, without making team building more constraining.
@@Cp-10 my point/idea was more so that it'd be a static buff for the whole team at c0, and without specific conditions or restrictions. Sara crit dmg buff is specific for electro chars
Great Kinich guide! I’d also like to mention that 4pc Golden troupe is also very viable on him even if he can’t fully maximize the entire 4 piece. The raw skill damage increase is very good. Thanks for the great video Jello. Love your content a lot
Thank you for the guide!! I was super pleasantly surprised at how well the first team plays. I thought Bennett-Xiangling would be the pick yet again, but Deepwood Dehya actually feels fantastic as the primary pyro applicator. I'm glad I can finally put her to good use! Until Mavuika comes out, at least :')
While Bennet was really good, I found that he still gave me the results I needed without him, and not worrying about circle impact was nice. I liked Kinich/Furina/Thoma/Baizu. I tried Xinqiu but he applies hydro too quickly, which while that's good for blooms to help Thoma's damage, it also gets in the way of the Burning in between Thoma's Burgeons, so my Nightsoul gauge gain took a hit. Having Baizu gave Dendro resonance for more EM for Thoma, healing for Furina, additional Dendro application, and he was my deepwood holder. I ran that comp because I don't have Emilie. I suspect a Kinich/Emilie/Mavuika (on cinder city artifact set) + 1 would go ignorant.
As someone who also doesn’t own Emilie, that team you described is my favorite team I’ve tried with Kinich too. Not sure if your Baizhu is using Thrilling Tales or not but I definitely recommend it for sure!
I own Emilie and I liked the Furina, Baizhu n Burgeon Thoma the most tbh. I prefer Emilie with Mualani to keep the Burning, so I can use both for Abyss. Plus my Furina is c2. It was weird he didn’t mention this team as it is one of his better imo
I use this team too. Single target damage is reduced but I'm satisfied with better AOE performance. Funny that no cc tested this team but I saw many people talking about in reddit
The team just heavily falls off as soon as you have a somewhat not horrible build on him, the better his damage is the better Bennett becomes and not using him is just shooting yourself in the foot unnecessarily, circle impact is a cheap excuse to not use him
Here's some other suggested teammates- Yaoyao: 15% dendro dmg bonus wtih C1, Tenacity's 20% atk, extra 32% atk with sumeru craftable moonpiercer at R5. Lynette: Deepwood holder, 16% atk as passive, taunting for grouping, swirling pyro, applying pyro with vivid shots, weapons like freedom sworn to provide more atk. Dehya: Deepwood support, IR, pyro application, support with weapons like Makhaira, WGS (super situational), Sac GS as C2 substitute, etc.
I ran abyss with Kinich Thoma Dehya Venti and it worked really well! Easy 36 star, was hyped for the character and was really glad to see that he's still exceptionally strong even without any of the annoying pyro 4 stars like Xiangling or Bennett😀
This might be a meme, but Mualani with Scrolls Set and TTDS is kinda funny, because then you get the lower cooldown on the Nightsoul Burst which means more damage, and you get full buffs for Hydro, Dendro, and Pyro from scrolls. And she doesn’t apply much hydro outside of the small rotation and TTDS HP% secondary stat is not wasted on Mualani
I think everyone in natlan has great potential to become support, cause of the new set, especially the hydro and pyro character as they can buff all elements except anemo, cause only anemo can buff anemo.
i still think the wolf's gravestone is better than the craftable one because it's really easy to proc its passive and the ENTIRE TEAM gets the ATK buff..
@@justawalter9752 when my C0R1 Kinich can hit well over 250K per cannon shot without Bennett, it’s hardly shooting myself in the foot. Also maybe I want to play Bennett on other teams. I’ve got other attack scaling DPS that need him much more
@@LumpySpaceNinja Yeah not using him because he’s not available is completely reasonable. I just have a problem with using circle impact as an excuse to forgo his attack buff. From a logical standpoint Bennett provides 1200 ATK+20% Noblesse, Baizhu frontloads a bit of damage bonus from Furina and gives 48% Atk from TTDS, as you can see this is quite the huge difference and circle impact simply isn’t an issue that justifies it. Not saying you can’t clear with it, but it’s just a damage downgrade which is why Jello and any other credible CC clarifies in their videos that if Bennett is available you should use him and some damage per screenshot you got with that team doesn’t really change that
I really really enjoy playing the Kinich-Nahida-Xingqiu-Thoma burgeon team. It finally gave me motivation to build Thoma, which I was eager to do for a long time, but kept on postponing it. He's still not fully built (needs better artifacts, as always), but he's good enough for now and the team performs really well and Kinich is really fun to play. I also like to play him in the overworld and he's now my go-to character in my exploration team (I love his mobility mechanic, even outside Natlan). As embarrassing as it may sound... I didn't think to replace Xingqiu with Furina. Even though I have her, I still haven't really gotten used to playing her and use her pretty much only in Neuvi hypercarry team.
Oh seperate comment from my original but I find it funny at the end that you said Arlecchino and Kinich both fight for Bennet when I don't use him with either of them lol I do Arlecchino Overload with Chevreuse and then I do Burgeon Burning with Thoma on Kinich and no Bennet lol
I didn't expect to have so much fun with this guy. He's a just a bit janky in tight places. Surprisingly, I even got to bring him in abyss 12 already, even with 3 bad artifacts. The modern design is still a bit off for me seeing it in GI's world, but it's still super fun.
Raiden was my priority got her and didnt lose my 50/50 and got Kinich! Super stoked to build them both! He is really fun to play and as a lover of Naruto the japanese VAs are a bonus xD
now imagine Mualani with xilonen, possibly mavuika, and the buff mualani get in 5.1 that she will be more comfy (5.1v4 Problem Fixes • Added: Immune to fall DMG during certain surfing animations. • Shark Bite fix: Will no longer lose track of the target under certain circumstances • Shark Bite fix: Will turn to face the target before the bite, so she (hopefully) won't move in a wrong direction.)
my current team with him is Dehya, Emilie, Kinich, Baizhu. Dehya using deepwood, Emilie using 2pc 2pc atk% and golden troupe, Kinich using 2pc 2pc atk% (no good arifacts for the new set yet), and Baizhu using 2pc hp% and 2pc Healing bonus.
To me it makes sense that mauvika would buff kinich a bit more than she buffs mualani because xilonen will probably be insane for mualani but because she’s geo she won’t work that well with kinich, so kinich gets pyro applier + attack buffer, and mualani get’s pyro applier + damage buffer, which kinda evens it out a bit. Also if mauvika increased hp or dmg she could potentially buff neuvilette and I don’t think Genshin wants to buff him much so if she only does attack buff + pyro application she doesn’t work with neuvilette at all and he doesn’t get buffed by her. Also if mauvika does buff damage she’s competing with furina and I don’t think Genshin will make two archons do the exact same thing.
Yep from my playing: It's Xiangling with Mualani And Bennette with Kinich And I been using Emilie for both of them. She makes those teams even better, but I know not many people pulled for her.
There's also the case of losing 50-50, worse when they are f2p, and can't get Emilie in within 30 pulls. Hope that Mavuika will be 5 star XL or Benny and another chr as the other. Personally, I'll choose Xilo instead.
Bruhh i have emilie with her signature weapon and chose dehya from the free selector...and i have benny(obviously)... NOW I JUST NEED KINICH BUT HE'S NOT COMING
Grabbed him the minute his banner dropped. Already have his skill crowned and working on the other two talents (I have like no mora). But his gameplay is SOSO fun I love it
Some things you missed I think! I wanted to see how mualani ttds scroll works with kinich because I feel team damage would be similar to using Bennett, because she also buffs Emilie, while getting rid of the circle altogether. Another thing i wanted to mention is the surprising amount of skill expression kinich actually has. If you've noticed you can hold aim e to shoot and its faster than pressing it if you do it quick (kind of like neuvillette charge attack cancel). Another thing is that if the enemy is burning, you can actually n1 and wait a little to get the cannon, it's actually faster than doing n2 e, increasing chances of getting the 5th! Last one is the one people know the most I think, burst extension, helps with gaining more points especially when enemy is burning because it'll give a ton more (around 14/20 for a cannon during burst animation). All this to say you really really want burning, I feel like burgeon is a ton less consistent. I'd generally say, if you utilize these techs, you'd get 5 cannons very very consistently in pure burning teams, which is why I prefer Emilie over Furina. Emilie helps with kinich er reqs, and also helps keep burning up. I feel they are around the same level assuming 4 hits and no tech. Saw some vids utilizing these tech with Emilie pure burn and 6 cannon shots per E is possible! You have to be really good at the techs, and maybe a little rng on the blindspots as well, but I'd like to mention these because I've seen almost no one talking about it.
Kinich seems fun but I don't have or want Emilie or Furina which I've seen as a key pieces in a lot of his teams. Going to wait to see where his teams shake out before making a decision.
I'm waiting for his rerun, because I really really want Raiden. But I'd be satisfied with C0 Raiden for off-field/support, and the 4 starts in this banner are really worth it, so I might still pull for Kinich if I get an easy Raiden (I'm at 68 pity)
Ended up with a team of Kinich, Zhongli, Dehya and Baizhu. Using a combination of the buffs of Serpent Spine with the team's Tenacity of Millelith, Noblesse Oblige and Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers (on Baizhu) and the shred of Zhongli's shield and the Deepwood Memories has made his damage so stupid high it's a blast (buh dum tsh) to play him. Probably sounds like a goofy team, but the rotation is stupid simple and the survivability is super comfy. Cleared full star cleared Spiral Abyss just fine too. 🙂👍
@@Chaoskiller2794 Bro this team has overkill on defensive units and if you’ve listened to anyone with some form of credibility then you’d know that circle impact is not an excuse to not use Bennett. Just look at the damn video
I run him with Nobless Bennett, Tenacity Dehya and Deepwood Thoma. Infinite buffs and protection. Eagerly waiting for Pyro archon and if she's a Pyro support running the Cinder City set, change Thoma with her and use Deepwood Dehya. Kinich already does huge damage I can't even imagine how good he will be after the release of Archon.
I know it's a bit off meta, but I've been having fun with Kinich, Kazuha, Bennet, and Emilie/Dehya. It's probably one of the few times you could get away with something as goofy as deepwood Kazuha if not using it on Dehya.
I really hope mauvika is a mix of bennent and xanglimg bc i love arlecchino and i found kinich to be one of the most fun units to play so o want both to have a good team but both really want bennent
OK now that I've watched the video, yes I do have thoughts. I pulled C1R1 and am considering trying for C2 (if I lose I will save for Mavuika) 1. Super thankful his playable doesn't make me motion sick like I feared. 2. Love that he's not tied to Nahida so I can run traditional dendro on one side and him on the other. 3. I cannot escape BennyXl and now idk what to do for my Navia team. Overall, I love him. Super fun and it's so satisfying to see 400k+ from a dendro dps. Also, I did it! I got C6 Chev! I don't have Raiden so idk what I'll use her for but I got her! Lol.
@th0r0shvener52 she was one I just wasn't sure about so decided to wait for rerun. Esp because I don't have Zhongli and at the time the only hydro I had was Xq (I have Yelan now). So my team options for her were pretty limited
He aint made for spread in first place so ,and he aint burst based so even raiden wouldnt help at all , later on with maybe iansan electro he might be good on spread with iansan on natlan support set who knows
I don’t think Mavuika is going to be a Xiangling Bennet Combo anymore either. Now I’m thinking that she will power creep one, while Pyro Traveler power creeps the other. I could see them making Pyro Traveler on the level of Harmony MC from Star Rail after how well received that was.
Got lucky with an early pull around wish 30-31 after losing 50-50 both banners last round (Kazuha who I still didn't have to Mona, Mualani to Tighnari so now I have to wait for her rerun) so this finally gives me a reason to actually invest in Xianliang. Sucks that we have yet another character desperate for Bennett, as he already had a place on my Arlecchino/Chevy overload team, but it's strong enough without him that it won't hurt too much, and I can throw a shielder Thoma in there in his place for a little more peace of mind with Arlec's allergy to living. Plus I was getting more than a little bored of Raiden/Nahida hyperbloom and what little I've playtested so far, this dude is just fun. And I'm casting my vote for Ajaw to replace Paimon as the mascot.
Burgeons is not easy to get because of the Burning aura being 2U Pyro and has nothing to do with Kinich’s application. You need 2 hydro apps to get 1 dendro core if there’s nothing reducing the Burning aura like crystalize, overload etc…
I'm playing him a lot with, zhongli (with deepeood), Bennett and xianling. 36 star in the abyss without the last ascenssion, lvl 6 skill talent and using my fichl golden troupe set. Ultra comfy and strong enough. Kirara works pretty well in the place of zhongli for this team too.
my overworld team is now kinich chiori kazuha and pyro flex because that way i go as chiori use her skill to switch into kazuha which uses his skill mid air and then swap to kinich mid air and use his spiderman powers to get height
My guess so far is that Mauvika will be either a Xiangling or Dehya upgrade, and Pyro MC will be a Bennett replacement/alternative. Even for an Archon combining Bennett and Xiangling into one character is just *too* powerful, it's like merging Godzilla and Mothra, the resulting abomination would be WAY too powerful, especially if you throw constellations into the mix and remove Xiangling/Bennett's drawbacks.
Man, Mona holding the TTDs (48% Atk which crazy with Kinich weapon), holding the Deepwood, also instant 60 Dmg Bonus, also I have C1R1 so, the first Kinich hit is oneshoting the shit out of this Abyss 💀
unpopular opionion, I want Mavuika to be a DPS like raiden. even if she is not a meta dps or maybe just as half as good from furina support, I still want her to be a dps focused character
12:57 nahida’s burst increases all characters attack though if there is a pyro character on the team and that buff is increased if there’s a second pyro which there most likely will be, although em is useless the bonus atk from the burst is good so it isn’t worthless Edit: mb it only buffs nahida's skill dmg thx for correcting me
I got c2 chasing Chevvy cons. My only modern scaled dps at c2 (also have raiden c2) making him the best dps on my account. 200 - 300k cannon shots consistently on a Wolf's gravestone. My fav team is Bennet, Xianglin, Bhaizhu and Kinnich. Havent tried the Deya variants she's not built.
The team I use is one I didn't see you try or list in the video but I highly recommend as it's an alternative to Bennet. The team is kinich xiangling kazuha and Emilie or Thoma would be better but I don't have either so I use my Barbara cause she's pretty good at my current level healing wise and has saved my ass lmao but the rotation is xiangling throwing down guoba and using burst if possible then kazuhas e skill and burst cause my kazuha is set up to have his burst every rotation so it makes a big AOE pyro application so you then switch to kinich and it wipes through everything I've come across
Imma share a really fun Kinich team im using right now. Go Kinich, Kachina, Deepwood Venti, and Bennet. Use Fav weapon on Kachina and Venti, adjust ER where needed. Try it out 😊 imma be honest i just wanna use venti lol
@@cleod7439 Is it correctly rated if it wasn't rated at all? Jokes aside I do expect it to be good in the future once we get better characters for it. Cryo doesn't consume enough Pyro to remove Burning, so theoretically you won't even need an off-field Pyro.
I love using random characters so I use Mika for atk speed buff. I'm not sure if that works but i notice i get 1 extra cannon shot when i used Mika. He also helps with heal from the burn and low hp since kinich could spin too close sometimes.
Here's hoping Mauvika/Pyro Traveler will be Bennett replacements, personally I'm hoping for a dmg% buff over an atk% one, so I can use him with my main DPS Yelan lol Edit: or to make her unique and universal, should could defense shred the enemy to replace Xiangling and Bennett at the same time
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Forgot to talk about his Constellations! His C1 and C2 both offer a massive damage increase similar to his weapon. Because Chev is on this banner, I'd recommend Cons>Weapon for now, and in the future it's up to you, both are great (especially with new fate point system).
Have you take into account that in burning teams, with the right animation cancels, it is possible to reliably get 5 cannon shot, thus improving his DPS a lot ?
The cancels avaliable to my knowledge are :
1) When you just fired a canon ball, use Ultimate : during this time burning stacks will triger and once out of burst a new canon ball is already ready.
2) Cancel shooting animation, by holding E for a short amount of time instead of tapping it, the shooting animation is canceled, by donig it 4 times, you can get the 5th cannon shoot.
3) Cancel the animation of Kinich ending his loop shoot. Basically, when he is gaining stacks at some point, when the bar is almost filled up, stoping doing loopshoots will enable skipping the animation of kinich ending loopshots. Canceling this is also enough to guaranty the 5th cannon shot.
@@JelloImpact I got more Keqings from this banner than Chevreuses 😭
@@JelloImpact C2 Raiden vs C0 Kinich.... Who wins?
@@yannischupin7787 good tech nice info
Spinach is so fun. I hope Natlan keep up the fun Natlan playstyles.
Spinach 😂😂
Kinich, Spinach.. hmm... 🤔 I see what you did there 😆
I don't think spinach is that fun, though it's pretty good on a pizza comp.
Spinach on Bennett's circle for the pizza. Emilie applies toppings.
Oh i get it spinach cuz he spins 😂
Lynette's burst pyro infused is very nice. Taunts enemys (even larger bosses), her A4 buffs attack%, refreshes pyro application and cand use deepwood! Can be a good replacement for xiangling
oooh I'm upset i missed this! great idea!
Wait I love what you’re cooking!! Any way to give her a spotlight bc she’s one of my favorites 🩵
@@JelloImpact credit to Omega XII's channel who posted a vid on it earlier today.
yeah I thought he was going to use her because of the title. I don't have her built and was hoping he would have tested her
@@Tristslayercame here from their channel. Sad it wasn’t included but glad jello realized Lynette’s a decent unit to use for Kinish
Accidently pulled him going for Chevreuse.
I now own Alhaitham for quick bloom.
Tighnari for quicken/spread.
Now Knich for burning lol
@@raptorking3678 same here except I pulled him on purpose lol
Ooh nice~.
I'm hoping to get Alhaitham next rerun.
Been trying to get him for awhile.
😙🤙
exact same thing, I just wanted chevvy for my arleccino and ended up getting raiden dehya and 2 kinichs before i finally got c6. Words could not describe how bad that felt until I played with him in the open field, instantly one of my fav characters to play as lol
same for me
he came in 15 pity
but still no chevreuse
i pray for your dendro dmg goblets
He's just as fun to explore as he is to combat since his gameplay is practically a mini-game where you have to maximize his point generation while avoiding enemy attacks.
run me over truck-kun pls
Personally idc about how fast a character can clear, rather how flexible they are if say something goes wrong with your pattern
12:33 Minor error here, C6 Thoma does not buff Kinich's normal attack damage (unless you're doing normals outside his E-state). His normals inside his E-state are considered Elemental skill damage (similar to how raiden's normals in her burst-state are all considered burst damage)
additional nerdy information:
18:16 You couldn't get burgeon's in xingqiu+xiangling or yelan+xiangling cause you're applying too much pyro. When an enemy is burning, and when you apply hydro, you're consuming the pyro-aura first hence you can't react with the underlying dendro-aura to create bloom seeds. That's why you actually want slower pyro application e.g. thoma or dehya, this way you will not apply pyro as much. This is actually why burgeon is less popular than hyperbloom, it's much harder to create blooms cause of how the elemental-auras interact.
BUT another way to counteract the pyro-aura is actually using other elements. Theory crafters actually have a name for this e.g. Curry: where you use electro to consume the pyro-aura hence creating more blooms (sample: thoma, fischl, nahida, xingqiu); oven: where you use cryo to consume the pyro aura also making you create more blooms (sample: thoma, kaeya, nahida, xingqiu)
Awww, so C6 Thoma doesn't actually buff him?:( this makes me so sad. Can you suggest an alternative character? My team was Kinich, Emilie, Thoma, and Benny. (I don't have Furina Incase u'll suggest her)
@@yukiakabane8381 There's actually not a lot of other alternative off-field pyro right now, that's why you see a lot of CC's saying "he has a lot of future potential". It's also why Thoma is actually still "decent" for kinich, since the other alternatives are just Xiangling and Dehya, both also don't buff kinich with their base kit.
- The most important thing to keep in mind though is to make sure thoma or xiangling or dehya is holding the 4pc deepwood (while kinich and emilie are using their signature sets), 4pc deepwood set is more important *in this case* than the actual off-field pyro teammate
@@alfredxsiv okayyy, ig I won't have to make any changes in my team for now. Thanks!
Hey can anyone tell me if I can use kinich Bennet xiangling dehya(deepwood) I don't have Emilie.. and I didn't see anyone using this team comp.. what's the problem in this
Hey can anyone tell me if I can use kinich Bennet xiangling dehya(deepwood) I don't have Emilie.. and I didn't see anyone using this team comp.. what's the problem in this
I think you are wrong about the blindspot zone, it gives points for charging the canon shoot rather than extending the skill duration! Other than that ty for the video!
Kinich is the first catalyst character that wields a claymore.
and a bow too
a grappling hook too
Everywhere I go, I can't escape circle impact
This... I hope I can escape the circle meta this Region
With the leaks of Xbalanque, possibly it will, especially when Xbal can buff team-wide.
The editing got an pretty big boost in quality, this rate you can get 100k by the end of the year for suree, keep up the good work!
I’m so happy I got him. My only regret was skipping Emily for burning boost but I got very lucky with the natlan artifacts farming, so I can’t complain.
I feel lucky, I accidentally pulled emelie when she came out, not I sctually pulled for kinich
I pulled him, and have absolutely no regrets, just his kit being this fun is so refreshing.. I have Neuv, Arle, etc, that does way more damage, but they’re so bland to play
Thanks for confirming the dps part. Easy skip for me
@@yolopistolo194 I mean he does really great, but I’m not really able to tell if he’s better or not, I pretty much one tap everything with him
I find Kinich to be the kind of DPS to get boring real quick
@@SSABIRR-69 I mean, he does have the best exploration ability so far for natlan, maybe mavuika will have a better one because shes the archon but rn his is the best
Jello said 'his kit revolves around you revolving around your enemies' with a straight face, unbothered, and he continued. 👺👺👺
my first ever c6 5-star and i dont regret it one bit
ive been playing kinich(c6), dehya(c1), baizhu(c2) and lynette. i like using her burst's taunt so the canonshot has fine AOE and bounces well
@@heavenlyfebruaryok
Fighting Kinich in Natlan sometimes is a PAIN when a fight is happening near these ari exploration things. He reacts on them with his grappling hook instead of attacking enemy...
oh gosh yesssss. they should turn those things off while fighting
I usually aim the grappling hook up and it works in a way
i think we're gearing up for mavuika being a xiangling replacement w another type of strong buffing (ala bennett/attack, nahida/EM, furina/DMG%) and my theory/guess is she'll give an increase to the whole team crit DMG. a character that gives more significant buffs to crit DMG doesn't exist yet (to my memory), we have a few sources of crit rate buffing in kits via hu tao and rosaria (albeit fairly minor overall), a few cons, and now two artifact sets that give insane bumps to crit rate. i think mavuika will fall in line with the last 3 archons and make character building easier to balance, without making team building more constraining.
Sara c6 buffs crit dmg
@@Cp-10 my point/idea was more so that it'd be a static buff for the whole team at c0, and without specific conditions or restrictions. Sara crit dmg buff is specific for electro chars
Crit dmg for Xinyan yes please
They can make mavuika buff uniquely strong by making her increase base atk, hp and def ^^
C2 Xilonen does it for cryo@@SweetWilliams13
Literally was just looking 30 min ago to see if this was up yet and then got the notification from discord.
Lynette + Deepwood = Kinich Meta
Fr she is broken to kinich
What about kazuha
Great thanks Jello. I’ve got Kinich and seen all the other builds on RUclips but have just been waiting for your guide before I do anything lol
Great Kinich guide! I’d also like to mention that 4pc Golden troupe is also very viable on him even if he can’t fully maximize the entire 4 piece. The raw skill damage increase is very good.
Thanks for the great video Jello. Love your content a lot
Thank you for the guide!! I was super pleasantly surprised at how well the first team plays. I thought Bennett-Xiangling would be the pick yet again, but Deepwood Dehya actually feels fantastic as the primary pyro applicator. I'm glad I can finally put her to good use! Until Mavuika comes out, at least :')
I live in Brazil and I love your videos. They help me study English.
While Bennet was really good, I found that he still gave me the results I needed without him, and not worrying about circle impact was nice. I liked Kinich/Furina/Thoma/Baizu. I tried Xinqiu but he applies hydro too quickly, which while that's good for blooms to help Thoma's damage, it also gets in the way of the Burning in between Thoma's Burgeons, so my Nightsoul gauge gain took a hit. Having Baizu gave Dendro resonance for more EM for Thoma, healing for Furina, additional Dendro application, and he was my deepwood holder.
I ran that comp because I don't have Emilie. I suspect a Kinich/Emilie/Mavuika (on cinder city artifact set) + 1 would go ignorant.
As someone who also doesn’t own Emilie, that team you described is my favorite team I’ve tried with Kinich too. Not sure if your Baizhu is using Thrilling Tales or not but I definitely recommend it for sure!
I own Emilie and I liked the Furina, Baizhu n Burgeon Thoma the most tbh. I prefer Emilie with Mualani to keep the Burning, so I can use both for Abyss. Plus my Furina is c2. It was weird he didn’t mention this team as it is one of his better imo
I use this team too. Single target damage is reduced but I'm satisfied with better AOE performance. Funny that no cc tested this team but I saw many people talking about in reddit
The team just heavily falls off as soon as you have a somewhat not horrible build on him, the better his damage is the better Bennett becomes and not using him is just shooting yourself in the foot unnecessarily, circle impact is a cheap excuse to not use him
Here's some other suggested teammates-
Yaoyao: 15% dendro dmg bonus wtih C1, Tenacity's 20% atk, extra 32% atk with sumeru craftable moonpiercer at R5.
Lynette: Deepwood holder, 16% atk as passive, taunting for grouping, swirling pyro, applying pyro with vivid shots, weapons like freedom sworn to provide more atk.
Dehya: Deepwood support, IR, pyro application, support with weapons like Makhaira, WGS (super situational), Sac GS as C2 substitute, etc.
I ran abyss with Kinich Thoma Dehya Venti and it worked really well! Easy 36 star, was hyped for the character and was really glad to see that he's still exceptionally strong even without any of the annoying pyro 4 stars like Xiangling or Bennett😀
This might be a meme, but Mualani with Scrolls Set and TTDS is kinda funny, because then you get the lower cooldown on the Nightsoul Burst which means more damage, and you get full buffs for Hydro, Dendro, and Pyro from scrolls. And she doesn’t apply much hydro outside of the small rotation and TTDS HP% secondary stat is not wasted on Mualani
I think everyone in natlan has great potential to become support, cause of the new set, especially the hydro and pyro character as they can buff all elements except anemo, cause only anemo can buff anemo.
I am trying so hard to save for Xilonen, but I might be giving in to the urge to pull for Kinich. He just looks like sm fun
I like Kinich but I like Xilonen more … I also don’t have Nahida yet so I’m basically going for both half’s of 5.1…so I definitely need to wait
@@Tyler-ko8dp I pulled for Kinich, I got Tighnari instead
So I might end up getting Xilonen anyways. Not too upset about it though, Xilonen slays
@@sterliingsilver9592 agreed, she's going to be insane, her auto attacks are awesome as well
i still think the wolf's gravestone is better than the craftable one because it's really easy to proc its passive and the ENTIRE TEAM gets the ATK buff..
This is impressive levels of testing !
Love it !
I’ve been using him with Furina, Thoma EM build and Baizhu on Deepwood and Thrilling Tales to great effect. No circle impact feels great
Circle impact is a cheap excuse to not use Bennett, damage wise it’s just shooting yourself in the foot like Jello made clear in the video
@@justawalter9752 when my C0R1 Kinich can hit well over 250K per cannon shot without Bennett, it’s hardly shooting myself in the foot. Also maybe I want to play Bennett on other teams. I’ve got other attack scaling DPS that need him much more
@@LumpySpaceNinja Yeah not using him because he’s not available is completely reasonable. I just have a problem with using circle impact as an excuse to forgo his attack buff. From a logical standpoint Bennett provides 1200 ATK+20% Noblesse, Baizhu frontloads a bit of damage bonus from Furina and gives 48% Atk from TTDS, as you can see this is quite the huge difference and circle impact simply isn’t an issue that justifies it. Not saying you can’t clear with it, but it’s just a damage downgrade which is why Jello and any other credible CC clarifies in their videos that if Bennett is available you should use him and some damage per screenshot you got with that team doesn’t really change that
@@justawalter9752the world is full of unlucky smiley boy haters
something i learn from 2 last major update, get the archon first, and get the other on their rerun
I really really enjoy playing the Kinich-Nahida-Xingqiu-Thoma burgeon team. It finally gave me motivation to build Thoma, which I was eager to do for a long time, but kept on postponing it. He's still not fully built (needs better artifacts, as always), but he's good enough for now and the team performs really well and Kinich is really fun to play. I also like to play him in the overworld and he's now my go-to character in my exploration team (I love his mobility mechanic, even outside Natlan).
As embarrassing as it may sound... I didn't think to replace Xingqiu with Furina. Even though I have her, I still haven't really gotten used to playing her and use her pretty much only in Neuvi hypercarry team.
Oh seperate comment from my original but I find it funny at the end that you said Arlecchino and Kinich both fight for Bennet when I don't use him with either of them lol
I do Arlecchino Overload with Chevreuse and then I do Burgeon Burning with Thoma on Kinich and no Bennet lol
Your Arle overload team is Arle/Chevy/Fischl/Thoma?
@@th0r0shvener52 Nah I use Arle/Yae/Fishl/Chev
@@Raykushi beidou>yae for that team
@@beidoubagel but yae is cooler
I tried Kinich (I have Beacon), TOTM Dehya, Noblesse Bennett and Deepwood Lynette and it helped in abyss!
Love ur vids appreciate all the time you put in makes my life easier
There is someone play him with lynnette since she distract enemies, grouping big enemies. Also, he put the deep wood set on her.
I didn't expect to have so much fun with this guy. He's a just a bit janky in tight places. Surprisingly, I even got to bring him in abyss 12 already, even with 3 bad artifacts. The modern design is still a bit off for me seeing it in GI's world, but it's still super fun.
Raiden was my priority got her and didnt lose my 50/50 and got Kinich! Super stoked to build them both! He is really fun to play and as a lover of Naruto the japanese VAs are a bonus xD
now imagine Mualani with xilonen, possibly mavuika, and the buff mualani get in 5.1 that she will be more comfy (5.1v4 Problem Fixes
• Added: Immune to fall DMG during certain surfing animations.
• Shark Bite fix: Will no longer lose track of the target under certain circumstances
• Shark Bite fix: Will turn to face the target before the bite, so she (hopefully) won't move in a wrong direction.)
would love love love an updated mona guide since I feel like she’s been getting better with newer characters!
my current team with him is Dehya, Emilie, Kinich, Baizhu. Dehya using deepwood, Emilie using 2pc 2pc atk% and golden troupe, Kinich using 2pc 2pc atk% (no good arifacts for the new set yet), and Baizhu using 2pc hp% and 2pc Healing bonus.
When you said it was a tie for 2 I knew arlecchino would be one and happy Mualani is the other bc those vapes are crazy imo love her
I hope the pyro traveler will be great for kinich burning/burgeon team.
To me it makes sense that mauvika would buff kinich a bit more than she buffs mualani because xilonen will probably be insane for mualani but because she’s geo she won’t work that well with kinich, so kinich gets pyro applier + attack buffer, and mualani get’s pyro applier + damage buffer, which kinda evens it out a bit. Also if mauvika increased hp or dmg she could potentially buff neuvilette and I don’t think Genshin wants to buff him much so if she only does attack buff + pyro application she doesn’t work with neuvilette at all and he doesn’t get buffed by her. Also if mauvika does buff damage she’s competing with furina and I don’t think Genshin will make two archons do the exact same thing.
i think mavuika gonna buff reaction, like the c1 of mona
I appreciate your videos Mr jello
Yep from my playing:
It's Xiangling with Mualani
And Bennette with Kinich
And I been using Emilie for both of them. She makes those teams even better, but I know not many people pulled for her.
There's also the case of losing 50-50, worse when they are f2p, and can't get Emilie in within 30 pulls. Hope that Mavuika will be 5 star XL or Benny and another chr as the other. Personally, I'll choose Xilo instead.
Bruhh i have emilie with her signature weapon and chose dehya from the free selector...and i have benny(obviously)...
NOW I JUST NEED KINICH BUT HE'S NOT COMING
the offical literally showed use to us Kinich with Emilie, Thoma and Bennett in their Miscellany
Grabbed him the minute his banner dropped. Already have his skill crowned and working on the other two talents (I have like no mora). But his gameplay is SOSO fun I love it
19:22 This works out since Xilonen buffs Mualani but not Kinich, so then Mavuika can work with both, but then give Kinich a bit more of a buff, yeah?
mavuika and emilie work so well for kinich!
@@RiH0720 I'm so excited! Mavuika daren plz come homeeee
Some things you missed I think! I wanted to see how mualani ttds scroll works with kinich because I feel team damage would be similar to using Bennett, because she also buffs Emilie, while getting rid of the circle altogether.
Another thing i wanted to mention is the surprising amount of skill expression kinich actually has. If you've noticed you can hold aim e to shoot and its faster than pressing it if you do it quick (kind of like neuvillette charge attack cancel). Another thing is that if the enemy is burning, you can actually n1 and wait a little to get the cannon, it's actually faster than doing n2 e, increasing chances of getting the 5th! Last one is the one people know the most I think, burst extension, helps with gaining more points especially when enemy is burning because it'll give a ton more (around 14/20 for a cannon during burst animation).
All this to say you really really want burning, I feel like burgeon is a ton less consistent. I'd generally say, if you utilize these techs, you'd get 5 cannons very very consistently in pure burning teams, which is why I prefer Emilie over Furina. Emilie helps with kinich er reqs, and also helps keep burning up. I feel they are around the same level assuming 4 hits and no tech. Saw some vids utilizing these tech with Emilie pure burn and 6 cannon shots per E is possible! You have to be really good at the techs, and maybe a little rng on the blindspots as well, but I'd like to mention these because I've seen almost no one talking about it.
Love the graphs love the puns
The fun part will be when mauvika is a main dps stronger than arlechino and requires bennet furina and emilie as their best team
Kinich seems fun but I don't have or want Emilie or Furina which I've seen as a key pieces in a lot of his teams. Going to wait to see where his teams shake out before making a decision.
I'm waiting for his rerun, because I really really want Raiden. But I'd be satisfied with C0 Raiden for off-field/support, and the 4 starts in this banner are really worth it, so I might still pull for Kinich if I get an easy Raiden (I'm at 68 pity)
Ended up with a team of Kinich, Zhongli, Dehya and Baizhu. Using a combination of the buffs of Serpent Spine with the team's Tenacity of Millelith, Noblesse Oblige and Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers (on Baizhu) and the shred of Zhongli's shield and the Deepwood Memories has made his damage so stupid high it's a blast (buh dum tsh) to play him. Probably sounds like a goofy team, but the rotation is stupid simple and the survivability is super comfy. Cleared full star cleared Spiral Abyss just fine too. 🙂👍
Why wouldn’t you just use Bennett though?
@@justawalter9752 circle impact
@@justawalter9752I could, but this setup is good enough and a lot more fun to play so 🤪
@@Chaoskiller2794 Bro this team has overkill on defensive units and if you’ve listened to anyone with some form of credibility then you’d know that circle impact is not an excuse to not use Bennett. Just look at the damn video
I run him with Nobless Bennett, Tenacity Dehya and Deepwood Thoma. Infinite buffs and protection. Eagerly waiting for Pyro archon and if she's a Pyro support running the Cinder City set, change Thoma with her and use Deepwood Dehya. Kinich already does huge damage I can't even imagine how good he will be after the release of Archon.
I have had such abysmal luck with Obsidian artifacts it's like I don't even have Kinich yet.
I'm on 72 pity and will have him soon! Can't wait ❤
You could test using the PMA underground in sumeru. I always test my characters there and have a craftable waypoint there too
I know it's a bit off meta, but I've been having fun with Kinich, Kazuha, Bennet, and Emilie/Dehya. It's probably one of the few times you could get away with something as goofy as deepwood Kazuha if not using it on Dehya.
Even Xinyan works with him, natlan dps making a lot of characters viables and i'm loving it.
I really hope mauvika is a mix of bennent and xanglimg bc i love arlecchino and i found kinich to be one of the most fun units to play so o want both to have a good team but both really want bennent
OK now that I've watched the video, yes I do have thoughts.
I pulled C1R1 and am considering trying for C2 (if I lose I will save for Mavuika)
1. Super thankful his playable doesn't make me motion sick like I feared.
2. Love that he's not tied to Nahida so I can run traditional dendro on one side and him on the other.
3. I cannot escape BennyXl and now idk what to do for my Navia team.
Overall, I love him. Super fun and it's so satisfying to see 400k+ from a dendro dps.
Also, I did it! I got C6 Chev! I don't have Raiden so idk what I'll use her for but I got her! Lol.
you can use her with Fischl and Arlecchino. Arle performs better with Fischl than with Raiden for her overload team.
@@th0r0shvener52 I also do not have Arle lol
@@Chaos.Kraken damn, next time she rolls around I highly recommend her, best pyro DPS and probably best DPS currently.
@th0r0shvener52 she was one I just wasn't sure about so decided to wait for rerun. Esp because I don't have Zhongli and at the time the only hydro I had was Xq (I have Yelan now). So my team options for her were pretty limited
12:40 All of his dmg is skill dmg and wont be increased by NA dmg buffs. Thus he also does not trigger bediou since he doesn't do that kind of dmg.
He aint made for spread in first place so ,and he aint burst based so even raiden wouldnt help at all , later on with maybe iansan electro he might be good on spread with iansan on natlan support set who knows
wrong the loop shots are na dmg the cannon is skill dmg
@@TybossMaster its all skill dmg, but it is considered an animation
I actually found Chiori to be a fine Emilie replacement. It's less damage sure, but still some comfy off-field damage
Emilie isn't just a good subDPS, she is a Battery for Kinich.
I've had Dehya as the holder of the Deepwood set since Emilie 😂
Very nice visuals this time around
I don’t think Mavuika is going to be a Xiangling Bennet Combo anymore either. Now I’m thinking that she will power creep one, while Pyro Traveler power creeps the other. I could see them making Pyro Traveler on the level of Harmony MC from Star Rail after how well received that was.
My copium is that Mavuika, Xbalanque will be the Xiangling-Benny duo of Natlan and I have high hopes for Pyro Traveler's kit since they delayed it
Got lucky with an early pull around wish 30-31 after losing 50-50 both banners last round (Kazuha who I still didn't have to Mona, Mualani to Tighnari so now I have to wait for her rerun) so this finally gives me a reason to actually invest in Xianliang. Sucks that we have yet another character desperate for Bennett, as he already had a place on my Arlecchino/Chevy overload team, but it's strong enough without him that it won't hurt too much, and I can throw a shielder Thoma in there in his place for a little more peace of mind with Arlec's allergy to living. Plus I was getting more than a little bored of Raiden/Nahida hyperbloom and what little I've playtested so far, this dude is just fun.
And I'm casting my vote for Ajaw to replace Paimon as the mascot.
Was waiting on this video
Burgeons is not easy to get because of the Burning aura being 2U Pyro and has nothing to do with Kinich’s application. You need 2 hydro apps to get 1 dendro core if there’s nothing reducing the Burning aura like crystalize, overload etc…
I'm playing him a lot with, zhongli (with deepeood), Bennett and xianling. 36 star in the abyss without the last ascenssion, lvl 6 skill talent and using my fichl golden troupe set. Ultra comfy and strong enough.
Kirara works pretty well in the place of zhongli for this team too.
Kinich, Emelie, Bennett, KLEE for the WIN
Character so good they make Dehya viable
my overworld team is now kinich chiori kazuha and pyro flex because that way i go as chiori use her skill to switch into kazuha which uses his skill mid air and then swap to kinich mid air and use his spiderman powers to get height
My guess so far is that Mauvika will be either a Xiangling or Dehya upgrade, and Pyro MC will be a Bennett replacement/alternative.
Even for an Archon combining Bennett and Xiangling into one character is just *too* powerful, it's like merging Godzilla and Mothra, the resulting abomination would be WAY too powerful, especially if you throw constellations into the mix and remove Xiangling/Bennett's drawbacks.
I'm saving for the hypothetical earth support from Natlan that can buff and heal.
Man, Mona holding the TTDs (48% Atk which crazy with Kinich weapon), holding the Deepwood, also instant 60 Dmg Bonus, also I have C1R1 so, the first Kinich hit is oneshoting the shit out of this Abyss 💀
unpopular opionion, I want Mavuika to be a DPS like raiden. even if she is not a meta dps or maybe just as half as good from furina support, I still want her to be a dps focused character
Jello is so focused on abyss that he forget we can also compare chrs based on world bosses without worrying about abyss buffs 😅😅
No one has Emily zzz THEATRE consideration for non meta teams is now interesting! Glad you included Xinyan she is a comfy option.
dang.. I've watched so many videos about him and still not sure whether to pull for him X.X
All the new natlan characters are fun to play. Fingers crossed chaska is also fun because I'm skipping kinich to save for her and Xilonen.
12:57 nahida’s burst increases all characters attack though if there is a pyro character on the team and that buff is increased if there’s a second pyro which there most likely will be, although em is useless the bonus atk from the burst is good so it isn’t worthless
Edit: mb it only buffs nahida's skill dmg thx for correcting me
Sadly she only increases her mark damage. :(
Her ult only buff her skill dmg not for her team(except the EM buff for the active character)
His burst only buff her own dmg and skill interactions depending on the other teammates elements. The only buff she can give is EM
Subscribed the minute i saw So Wrong, Its Right at the back 😍
You know that character is screwed when they say he's fun to play
I got c2 chasing Chevvy cons. My only modern scaled dps at c2 (also have raiden c2) making him the best dps on my account. 200 - 300k cannon shots consistently on a Wolf's gravestone. My fav team is Bennet, Xianglin, Bhaizhu and Kinnich. Havent tried the Deya variants she's not built.
I'm prefarming for Xinolen 😭😭 this banner is very tempting
Good luck, stay strong
The team I use is one I didn't see you try or list in the video but I highly recommend as it's an alternative to Bennet. The team is kinich xiangling kazuha and Emilie or Thoma would be better but I don't have either so I use my Barbara cause she's pretty good at my current level healing wise and has saved my ass lmao but the rotation is xiangling throwing down guoba and using burst if possible then kazuhas e skill and burst cause my kazuha is set up to have his burst every rotation so it makes a big AOE pyro application so you then switch to kinich and it wipes through everything I've come across
Im guessing Mavuika is gonna be a Dehya that will be a damage support rather than defensive support
Imma share a really fun Kinich team im using right now. Go Kinich, Kachina, Deepwood Venti, and Bennet.
Use Fav weapon on Kachina and Venti, adjust ER where needed. Try it out 😊 imma be honest i just wanna use venti lol
Alot if people well skip and wait for his rerun
observing how the meta well sift
Reverse Melt is underrated
Fr, rosaria is the best slot and can also buff his crit hate
Reverse melt? The team where the best off field dps is rosaria?
Nah, reverse melt is off meta, is correctly rated
@@cleod7439 Is it correctly rated if it wasn't rated at all?
Jokes aside I do expect it to be good in the future once we get better characters for it. Cryo doesn't consume enough Pyro to remove Burning, so theoretically you won't even need an off-field Pyro.
I think yelans ramping dmg bonus is a bit underrated for kinich
Bro , kinich has somehow become my top damaged dealer , even more than arlechino cuz she doesn't like to crit...
I love using random characters so I use Mika for atk speed buff. I'm not sure if that works but i notice i get 1 extra cannon shot when i used Mika. He also helps with heal from the burn and low hp since kinich could spin too close sometimes.
At least he has viable team options unlike when I used day 1 cyno.
Here's hoping Mauvika/Pyro Traveler will be Bennett replacements, personally I'm hoping for a dmg% buff over an atk% one, so I can use him with my main DPS Yelan lol
Edit: or to make her unique and universal, should could defense shred the enemy to replace Xiangling and Bennett at the same time
I am using Kinich/Furina/Thoma/Yaoyao and it is working nicely!
Thank you for torturing yourself for us again Jello ❤️