Great review, the comparison part is really helpful, lots of details that you hard to find out on Elo, especially enjoy the comparison vs ZA13C and OP1WE. Got my X2H mini on the first day, really like it, used Orochi V2 before.
i’m not sure if i like the new coating. When hands are dry it’s awesome but once my hands start to sweat it feels gluey? I think i’ll get used to it but compared to razors coating it feels locked in but not odd when hands start to sweat.
I don't know what to buy x2 mini or x2h mini. I've been using g305 and got bored of it, never really liked its shape. Last week I tried my friends mouse Hyperx pulsefire haste, and I liked it so much, the shape. And when I searched on web their wireless version, I found out that there not that good, from technical point. And now I am choosing between x2 mini and x2h mini.
@oscargr5 hi, I got the x2h mini and the pulsefire haste, and both are fine. I like them both. X2h mini is small, and good for claw grip, pulsefire haste is a little bit bigger, but its very comfortable too, atleast for me. It comes down to what shape you prefer.
@@batonhleba3549 thanks for replying, I have small hands and kinda like the shape of the g305, would you recommend me the x2h mini? Are they similar in size?
@oscargr5 everyone has their own preferences. I might like that mouse, but you don't, you know. If you have an opportunity, you should try the shape first, then buy. But I would suggest you that mouse, It's great. For me it's the best shape for now. Its not that similar with g305, its a little bit smaller and has a hump in the back.
This X2H mini looks somewhat similar (but larger) to the M42 with the higher back shell, with an even more pronounced hump. Weirdly, even as a claw grip user, It felt like this hump had too much presence in my palm with the M42, and I preferred playing with the lower back, which makes the mouse nearly identical to the Viper Mini.
I bought a Medium, and im having a love hate thing with it. I still love my Bruce Lee Medium, but it needs a hump. I thought that the X2H will fix it, but it was not what I was expecting. I guess I want the hump somewhere more in the middle and the side rear of the X2H to be a little less aggressive. Even though the X2H is 5g lighter than the Bruce Lee M, it feels like its a 70g mouse
Hey Mr. Aim, great review as always... Quick question. I'm maining a XM2we, but my pink feels a little sore after only a couple of hours of gaming, I believe it's because the XM2we feels more of a wider mouse... Do you think the X2H size medium can help me with that? I've been trying different mice for the last 3 months, like DAv3(too big), Fantech Aria(didn't work for my claw grip, too short), Sora4k(too narrow), Atlantis Mini(missing a more pronounce rear hump)... I'm always coming back to the XM2we, even with the pain... Any recommendation? Thanks for your work, it's great!
The amount of specific input and production quality you provide to your reviews is invaluable. Really awesome and underrated videos. Happy to sub. Great content, amigo. 👍
hey just wondering, is the X2H mini have somewhat similar shape with cooler master mm712? or both are different? loving my mm712 now because of its shape and planning to upgrade to X2H mini if the shape almost similar :)
Do you still prefer the mm712 over both of these? I feel like what would make or break this mouse for a person is if they curl their pinky back into the rear hump sides or not, as opposed to keeping it next to their ring finger.
@@seekr99 I think the mm712 would enable more freedom on where you place your pinky(curled or not), but the x2h mini would guide your fingers towards the center more(closer to ring finger). Keep in mind I don't own the x2h mini so this is just what I would imagine + heard from other people. I could be wrong, might differ a lot depending on finger length and grip.
How would you compare the MM710/712 shape to the mini? It looks very similar on eloshapes, but was wondering about subtleties that elo can’t convey. Cheers, super well-made video as always :D
I have the MM712 and Lamzu atlantis mini. Both excellent mice. But Lamzu mini is higher quality and better mouse skates as well. + The grip tape that it comes with and weight is bonkers.
I bought the size 1 of this mouse, but its unusable for fingertip. Can also confirm your post travel concerns, I had the same. Therefore it wasn't for me and I returned it. Now playing on a HSK pro instead hopefully forever.
The X2H mini is perfect, for me. My copy doesn't seem to have the same mushy feeling buttons or anything like that. It's the ultimate "locked-in" aggressive claw mouse where you don't move your fingertips much. Definitely not for everyone, but an excellent shape for someone like me. I got it instead of the Lamzu Atlantis Mini 4k.
good decision. the lamzu is a great mouse. But the slope on the side is just a tad to agressive. Not much of a problem after a Month of use but I can´t use anything else or It feels weird again.
Same here! The optical switches will never feel as crispy as regular ones but they have a nice feel and the shape is amazing. Especially coming from an mm712
how long is your hand and width in CM? I have 18cmx9.5cm, should I go for x2h or the mini? Also the white version gets yellow or dirty fast with sweaty hands?
i like the feeling of a agressive and locked in hump like xm2we but idk this looks a bit too much.. i'm gonna go for the normal v2 and i hope it will fit my relaxed claw grip
Feel sad that the Burst Pro shape is not even brought in for discussion and comparison anymore after Roccat completely butchered it with the worse wireless implementation ever. Wonder how these would compare to the BP shape...
@@ToastyTMThat statement is as far from the truth as it can get. Firstly, opticals are not made for actuation speed, they're made for the different method that prevents double clicking and increases the longevity of the switch. Secondly, having tried these switches firsthand, they are disgustingly bad on every copy I've used, being mushy and hard to press in at the same time - honestly a feat in itself. On the other hand you have the Lamzu Thorn, which feels absolutely fantastic, and you have the GPX 2, which also feels great, although a little stiff.
@@iitsMikeB I’m just saying what other RUclipsrs say bruh. I have a viper v2 pro. I absolutely fucking hate it because of the clicks. I was gonna get a gpro x 2 till I heard it has optical switches so I’m just gonna get a lamzu v2 4k because I’ve heard people say a lot of good things about them. I’m not getting a mouse with optical switches ever again till companies figure out a way to make them feel at least decent.
I removed the supergrip squares where the click paddles hook in at the front and replaced them with my own foam dampeners, as well as swapping the Raeshit switches out for some Razers I had laying around. Best decision ever and the clicks feel incredible now on my X2H mini.
@@inspire1ove Sure, but I don’t care enough about the other downsides and don’t mind tweaking things to my preferences. It’s a shame because besides Pulsar’s laziness in using supergrip scraps as click dampeners, the mouse is basically perfect
I love the look of this mouse, but as a relaxed finger-tipper, it's not made for me. Great video, love the comparisons and detailed info as always! Lamzu finally responded about the issues I'm having with my Mini 4k. We've gone back and forth half a dozen times, just getting through all their troubleshooting steps. Hoping they can just ship me a replacement.
Just the video I was looking for! The close shape comparison is super helpful
Notifications are the best. Can’t wait to watch this video!
Great review, the comparison part is really helpful, lots of details that you hard to find out on Elo, especially enjoy the comparison vs ZA13C and OP1WE. Got my X2H mini on the first day, really like it, used Orochi V2 before.
insane review, super in depth, love the comparisons!
X2H medium with super grips is where its at.
Great review and comparison! 👍It's a very niche shape. I only test the medium, need to try the mini now 😊
i’m not sure if i like the new coating. When hands are dry it’s awesome but once my hands start to sweat it feels gluey? I think i’ll get used to it but compared to razors coating it feels locked in but not odd when hands start to sweat.
Do the Superglide Version 2 Glass Skates for the original X2 fit onto the X2H ?
Yes.
I don't know what to buy x2 mini or x2h mini. I've been using g305 and got bored of it, never really liked its shape. Last week I tried my friends mouse Hyperx pulsefire haste, and I liked it so much, the shape. And when I searched on web their wireless version, I found out that there not that good, from technical point. And now I am choosing between x2 mini and x2h mini.
Hey, I also wanna switch from a g305, did you get the pulsar? Which version did you end up getting? Is it good?
@oscargr5 hi, I got the x2h mini and the pulsefire haste, and both are fine. I like them both. X2h mini is small, and good for claw grip, pulsefire haste is a little bit bigger, but its very comfortable too, atleast for me. It comes down to what shape you prefer.
@@batonhleba3549 thanks for replying, I have small hands and kinda like the shape of the g305, would you recommend me the x2h mini? Are they similar in size?
@oscargr5 everyone has their own preferences. I might like that mouse, but you don't, you know. If you have an opportunity, you should try the shape first, then buy. But I would suggest you that mouse, It's great. For me it's the best shape for now. Its not that similar with g305, its a little bit smaller and has a hump in the back.
Never a best review dude im shoked. The best part is the comparison !
Just got my x2h and x2h mini. I don't have any issues with weight balance. Mine are perfectly balanced.
That is weird.
I got the very first batch. Perhaps they fixed it :)
@@AimAdapt That’s what I thought. Glad they fixed it. Just an awesome mouse.
you could not have the keenness to notice
x2h is super back heavy, feels as heavy as gpx 1 in regular use
best mouse reviews ever seen on YT really healpfull, tnx
Great video! Very thorough
The software doesn’t pick up the mouse when I’m on wireless but do when wired so is that a normal thing that I didn’t know about?
is x2v2 mini better?
This X2H mini looks somewhat similar (but larger) to the M42 with the higher back shell, with an even more pronounced hump. Weirdly, even as a claw grip user, It felt like this hump had too much presence in my palm with the M42, and I preferred playing with the lower back, which makes the mouse nearly identical to the Viper Mini.
I bought a Medium, and im having a love hate thing with it. I still love my Bruce Lee Medium, but it needs a hump. I thought that the X2H will fix it, but it was not what I was expecting. I guess I want the hump somewhere more in the middle and the side rear of the X2H to be a little less aggressive. Even though the X2H is 5g lighter than the Bruce Lee M, it feels like its a 70g mouse
I agree and feel the same way. The weight issue is being caused by the balance. I also struggle with the side rear profile.
does the normal v2 not have the feeling of a hump?
if i compare it on eloshape it's almost the same as xm2we humpwise
feels as heavy if not heavier than the GPX
The mini is phenomenal even for large hands!
Hey Mr. Aim, great review as always... Quick question. I'm maining a XM2we, but my pink feels a little sore after only a couple of hours of gaming, I believe it's because the XM2we feels more of a wider mouse... Do you think the X2H size medium can help me with that? I've been trying different mice for the last 3 months, like DAv3(too big), Fantech Aria(didn't work for my claw grip, too short), Sora4k(too narrow), Atlantis Mini(missing a more pronounce rear hump)... I'm always coming back to the XM2we, even with the pain... Any recommendation? Thanks for your work, it's great!
Which do you think is better for claw/relaxed claw, atlantis mini or x2h?
Do we have any information about the SE Version?
I am really tempted to buy the X2H medium size :D
Nice comparison video! Big love from Japan
The amount of specific input and production quality you provide to your reviews is invaluable. Really awesome and underrated videos. Happy to sub. Great content, amigo. 👍
would you recommend x2h mini or lamzu atlantis mini for agressive claw? (i like micro adjusting with finger when i pull down spray)
hey just wondering, is the X2H mini have somewhat similar shape with cooler master mm712? or both are different?
loving my mm712 now because of its shape and planning to upgrade to X2H mini if the shape almost similar :)
Is it capable of 4k? Cause most mice nowadays like the Lamzu, Ninjutso, etc. all are capable of 4k.
Do you still prefer the mm712 over both of these? I feel like what would make or break this mouse for a person is if they curl their pinky back into the rear hump sides or not, as opposed to keeping it next to their ring finger.
Hi, would you think curled pinky fits mm712 better and x2h/mini for next to ring finger? Or the other way around?
@@seekr99 I think the mm712 would enable more freedom on where you place your pinky(curled or not), but the x2h mini would guide your fingers towards the center more(closer to ring finger). Keep in mind I don't own the x2h mini so this is just what I would imagine + heard from other people. I could be wrong, might differ a lot depending on finger length and grip.
I'm deciding between Lamzu Atlantis mini pro and Lamzu Thorn, comparing usability. Long-term comfort and hand health Which one should I choose?
They are both great. Tough decision
Vaxee NP01S also
Regards
I agree with 8020 NP01s shape would be a great middle ground. Feels amazing in hand
thx for again great review i wanne try it wen 4k dongel comes out hopefully soon
I've been searching for a ZA12 clone since forever cuz it was perfect for my hand. I just can't seem to get a mouse with the same feel...
Do you have the X2H? I have the ZA13-C and was thinking of buying this X2H. I have the Lamzu Atlantis mini, but it doesnt feel the same
unfortunately don't have stock here yet and I'm on the Lamzu Atlantis as well. it's just too wide for my hand @@razir923
How would you compare the MM710/712 shape to the mini? It looks very similar on eloshapes, but was wondering about subtleties that elo can’t convey. Cheers, super well-made video as always :D
I have the MM712 and Lamzu atlantis mini. Both excellent mice. But Lamzu mini is higher quality and better mouse skates as well. + The grip tape that it comes with and weight is bonkers.
Hope... you will review soon "Attack Shark X3"
I have it. should be this upcoming week :)
I bought the size 1 of this mouse, but its unusable for fingertip. Can also confirm your post travel concerns, I had the same.
Therefore it wasn't for me and I returned it. Now playing on a HSK pro instead hopefully forever.
I agree the shape isn't for my hybrid fingertip/ relaxed claw grip
X2v2 review plssssss
The X2H mini is perfect, for me. My copy doesn't seem to have the same mushy feeling buttons or anything like that.
It's the ultimate "locked-in" aggressive claw mouse where you don't move your fingertips much. Definitely not for everyone, but an excellent shape for someone like me. I got it instead of the Lamzu Atlantis Mini 4k.
good decision. the lamzu is a great mouse. But the slope on the side is just a tad to agressive. Not much of a problem after a Month of use but I can´t use anything else or It feels weird again.
Same here! The optical switches will never feel as crispy as regular ones but they have a nice feel and the shape is amazing. Especially coming from an mm712
how long is your hand and width in CM? I have 18cmx9.5cm, should I go for x2h or the mini? Also the white version gets yellow or dirty fast with sweaty hands?
@@FLawLesSTaStE My hands are 19x10 and I would 100% say go for the mini.
I don't have the white one, so can't say.
10:22 yes would have love that more
Goated vid!
i like the feeling of a agressive and locked in hump like xm2we but idk this looks a bit too much..
i'm gonna go for the normal v2 and i hope it will fit my relaxed claw grip
its def a bit too much. feels too bulbous for me and i went back to htx
Feel sad that the Burst Pro shape is not even brought in for discussion and comparison anymore after Roccat completely butchered it with the worse wireless implementation ever. Wonder how these would compare to the BP shape...
Come on, glorious, just give us a "Glorious Model Z" already.
Those clicks... EEEEEEEEEEEEW!
Do you like it or not?
@@juanaditya7293 No, they're terrible.
I mean they’re optical switches. They’ll all feel bad for the cost of actuation speed even tho you’ll never notice a difference.
@@ToastyTMThat statement is as far from the truth as it can get. Firstly, opticals are not made for actuation speed, they're made for the different method that prevents double clicking and increases the longevity of the switch. Secondly, having tried these switches firsthand, they are disgustingly bad on every copy I've used, being mushy and hard to press in at the same time - honestly a feat in itself. On the other hand you have the Lamzu Thorn, which feels absolutely fantastic, and you have the GPX 2, which also feels great, although a little stiff.
@@iitsMikeB I’m just saying what other RUclipsrs say bruh. I have a viper v2 pro. I absolutely fucking hate it because of the clicks. I was gonna get a gpro x 2 till I heard it has optical switches so I’m just gonna get a lamzu v2 4k because I’ve heard people say a lot of good things about them. I’m not getting a mouse with optical switches ever again till companies figure out a way to make them feel at least decent.
clicks are heavy, and mushy. weight balance is really off. this is a no-go
Indeed. This turned into a cash grab - stop gap before they release v3
I removed the supergrip squares where the click paddles hook in at the front and replaced them with my own foam dampeners, as well as swapping the Raeshit switches out for some Razers I had laying around. Best decision ever and the clicks feel incredible now on my X2H mini.
@@VCM5 when a mouse needs to be taken apart for custom modding and the use of a different switches to feel good, it aint a good product
@@inspire1ove Sure, but I don’t care enough about the other downsides and don’t mind tweaking things to my preferences. It’s a shame because besides Pulsar’s laziness in using supergrip scraps as click dampeners, the mouse is basically perfect
@@VCM5 far from
I love the look of this mouse, but as a relaxed finger-tipper, it's not made for me. Great video, love the comparisons and detailed info as always!
Lamzu finally responded about the issues I'm having with my Mini 4k. We've gone back and forth half a dozen times, just getting through all their troubleshooting steps. Hoping they can just ship me a replacement.
Good to know and I agree with you :)
love u
You need to light yourself alittle brighter ❤
Ever since I mained/modded cm 710’s I’ve been waiting for this shape 🤯🥹🤗
Do you have the x2h and the cm710?
@@nero1873 I do I have a few mm 710’s! And my x2h arrived on Monday 🥰