Do Ninjutsu dojos do any sparring?
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This is why Jigoro Kano is a genius. He weeded out all the deadly stuffs that you cannot practice in live sparring to make it safer, allow the students to spent more time out of their comfort zone and use the techniques properly under stress. Hence the reason why his students mopped the floor with every single students from other jujutsu koryu schools in competition.
It's not like the deadly stuffs is wrong but it should be taught when you're already understand what to do under pressure, and have a strong foundation
That's not true, he had a high level student of aikijujutsu being the face of judo. Its well documented. Also judo lost many times to yoshin jujutsu and a few others. My point is judo is bad ass but not the end all. .
One more thing. I agree with learning the deadly stuff later on. Its the reason why aikido was originally taught to high level black belt and above.
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If ko ryu jujutsu did not do their own randori, how was it possibly effective on the battlefield. Is it same to presume that ninpo is just as effective as say judo if you just add randori and sparing or is waza good enough?
We spar in every class, and have done so for 25 years. Keiko no ho, and randori is a priority for proper keiko in kobudo. Thank you for this message.
Totally with you! And it’s just straight up fun.
We spar full contact for 30mins at the end of every class; our students love it and we practice safely and respectfully.
I totally agree, it’s super beneficial for their development, resistance training will show you whether you truely know a technique or not as variables while fighting need to be learned to manage.
Great lesson !!!!!🎉🎉
I totally agree with your point.
For me, dojos that teach "self-defense" without sparing or pressure testing should be avoided. There is absolutely no point in building (fake) confidense in one's skills and techniques, that never had been put to test. Dojo's that tell their students they are ready to defend themselfs put their students into real danger and should be pronounced guilty of bodily injury if their students get hurt for real.
If dojos study for the art only, it's something different. They don't claim to be self defense. Hopefully they tell that to their students to keep in mind.
Because all martial arts look fancy and flashy if the opponent only attacks once ... they just don't do that in real life.
So what you're saying Bujinkan should be avoided? Lol
Sparring is the only way you’re gonna know if what you have learned actually works.
Great video and message. The world is demanding more and more that martial arts training tests out assumptions rather than just taking the word of a teacher. Thank you for sharing!
I used to love sparring when I was Training Vale Tudo,but it can get out of hand FAST so it's important both Trainees are sticking to any rules etc
Cool video asking the students what they learned from the sparring session
Great video! This is taking concepts and principles into moving pressure. Loved the response of the students and the teachers gyrations and instructions.
Kudos!
I think randori, although In the begining it may seem stagnant and choppy as you progress it should actually take the form of sparring to "pressure test" techniques.
Without sparring you're just dancing. Practicing the art for the sake of the art is fine, but if you're going to call yourself a martial artist then you should be a competent, real world fighter.
I started Karate at 10 and fought competition from a very young age. I grew up in a rough estate so knowing how to defend yourself was essential. I went on from there into tradtional Chinese arts Wing Chun and then Lau Gar Chuan, both instructors encouraged sparring, but it wasn't until I moved into full rules Muay Thai that I really became a fighter. Fighting full contact, full rules Muay Thai will teach you a lot about yourself. As I got older and retired from fighting, I moved across to Krav Maga. With a good instructor, Krav is the closest you'll get to prepare yourself for a realistic, potential life and death scenario. So much time is wasted on nonsense, unrealistic scenarios in traditional arts that have ZERO application unless you can fight and are not afraid of violence and getting hit. This is the reality. There were so many flowery practitioners that I trained with in the trad arts, who had beautiful, flowing forms and techniques, but were timid flinchers who were terrified of sparring. As I said, dancers, not martial artists. Aggression and extreme violence are a part of this, there's no way around that fact. You can philosophise about it all day, but you have to be realistic too. Nobody in a dark alley will ever stand there with a slow motion punch held in front of you. 😂
Really nice approach! Good feedback for students as well.
What a great video. Thank you so much for your teaching. I also agree, come in from a karate background that sparring should be essential. God bless and keep up the good work
Very impressed with your pedagogical approach to sparring. 👍👍
Really good video and amazing message. This inspired me and reinvigorated myself. Thank you. PS you have a beautiful dojo OSS
Pressure testing.
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I would have loved to train here. I did To-shin-do (offshoot of bujinkan) for 2 years and at the end finally after asking for sparring and my senses promising it we had 2 sessions at the end of the year. However, only 3ish people apart from me turned up the first time, then 2 the second time. We had helmets, shinguards, mouth guard, and Muay Thai gloves and I watched one of the green belt black stripe sparring for the first time, (I was doing Rhee (similar to ITF) Taekwondo at the time with no protective equipment and before that for around 5,6 years so I was alright with sparring), he didn’t do well at all like I was hoping because I respected him as I was a red black belt and sparred his opponent previously. I loved doing weapons and most of the kata but in the end I switched to Muay Thai and Judo for a while due to my sensei promising things but not delivering. Eg, sparring, sword sparring, archery, bo shurikan, naginata, and nagamaki classes from time to time. I was planning to come back after I trained in Muay Thai for a while but I was hit with a $100 leaving fee which sucked even after I gave a gift of alcohol as thanks for training me. Maybe one day if I find a bujinkan dojo that spars I’ll join it.
At Akban ninjutsu they do radori after training.
I agree timing distance and conditioning all can be gained through sparring.
Great video
I train/teach kyokushin karate and sparring is very important part of training. Especially going to tournaments, and other dojos. It all gives experience you cant get if you dont do it. Not to mention you will learn what it feels like to be hit and what you can and cannot handle.
I agree 100%, we do the same. Checkout AKBAN in Israel. Based on ninjutsu but we also practice boxing, BJJ, Judo and kickboxing so that we are all well rounded fighters and can handle ourselves under pressure and surprise and yes to deal with pain and getting hurt sometimes. Learning martial arts with no randori or sparring is all theory with no practicality.
Yes. Yossi is doing it right!
That guy is great 🎉🎉🎉I follow him he brings a modern flair too the ancient art
Randori is very important. We started to spar, ofc who wants in our class, and during randori i see and improve some of weaknesses i find. Some of them are beginner mistakes i make after years of training of Aikido and ninjutsu. Ofc most important thing is to make it safe and don't push over the limit and keep it as you agreed with you opponent how to spar. Every randori can be made and agreed before start what you are going to do. Is it going to be all out combat or you agree for light spar and try to i olement techniques that you have done in that class before sparring. And ofc it makes you more used tonget hit and leep going. My weakness for example is fight on the ground. And i force myself to go to ground whenever is possible and improve myself that way. Sometimes even happens that some bigger people in our class is afraid to get into clinch with me, i am 1.75m tall and maybe 65kg, because they are not that good in clinch even when bigger than me. And i have problem with smaller opponent when we go to ground and i lose almost every time. That is why we started sparring in our classes. And some of people just don't wanna do it because they don't want to get hurt. Luckily our shihan and shidoshis have aproved and like to watch us doing randori and would stand next to us to break us apart if we start swinging aimlessly to prevent us watering ninjutsu and prevent injuries. Or stand and watch what we do and when we are done tell us what we did wrong and whatnwe could have done in some situation. I am black belt too and every time we do randori infind something i need to improve even after 16+ years in multiple martial arts. That is why randori is important.
Ps. one more important thing is to sparr with bigger and stronger opponents. In real fights there aren't categories. I like to spar with few much taller and heavier guys in oru class. Some of them work in security, some big guys worked as bouncers at clubs and have real life experience that they share with us. That's what friends are and why you shpuld spar with them. Everyone has some differente experience and aproach to different situations.
I am also teaching Bujinkan and come to the same thinking and start to do sparring some years ago. I think today that it is trully necessary, even for koryu. We need to experiement what is the feeling of full speed combat. it is completly different form the mats trainning.
Well said
I'm with you,🏴👍
that's great that you do sparring. This actually looks like boxing or MMA however. Does that mean you teach wrist locks during class or you teach materials related to the sparring (since there is hardly any wristlocking going on here )?
Yes. There are over 200 hundred techniques that we cover in classes 5 days a week. Those will never be recorded for the public.
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I use sparring in my ninjutsu school since level 1
So ninjutsu sparing, and that is.. Shinobi no jutsu hide and seek? Pin the explosive torch on the castle. 20 questions of the dead spy? Fastest Marishiten chant?
Another good idea:
And this is from being in a boxing gym.
Tuck that chin and develop head movement/footwork or you'll get that chin popped🤣
Do you spar with bokens or kendo sticks for kenjitsu?
A lot of times this does not work well it turns into a game every you do not respect their attack enough
@@oshiro1970 yup. Unless you use proper protection equipments to go all out without hurting your partner, sword sparring ended up deformed into a tagging paddy cake game
isn’t this ninjutsu and i was thinking the same i wanna get my girlfriend into this cause i take sanda kickboxing classes and it would be great if she knew how to defend herself with weapons and unarmed
The truth is you can´t real saparr ninjutsu...in my bujinkan dojo we use to do some sprarring, but was almost karate and judo techenics. But is fun.
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HUMONGOUS rule books. its definitely not "everybody has a plan to get punched in the nose."