It's amazing that all those fighters and spectators are all dead yet we can enjoy watching them, even though at the time we weren't even born yet, our parents weren't even born yet
this is great stuff. I love the old footage. I've researched old photos and drawings; and read lots of different accounts of these fights, but its nice to see some film
Jack Johnson fighting 45 rounds if necessary. God damn blood sport back then. Cracked ribs, broken jaw, dozen teeth knocked out, smdh. That shytt was gruesome.
Tommy Burns is severely underrated, 13 title defenses with a wicked right hand and good boxing skills all while being only 5'7 168lbs. He also did what none had done before and gave a black contender a chance to win the crown. Even though Jack Johnson outweighed him by almost forty pounds, he lasted an impressive 14 rounds against an all-time great champion.
Tommy Burns was short in height, light in weight, but he had the heart of a lion. Tommy fought and beat some good fighters in his career.There is a couple of Tommy Burn fight videos available on RUclips. Tommy also opened the door for black fighters in getting a title shot from the reigning Champion. Prior to Tommy's reign as the Champ, there were four previous heavyweight champions that refused to defend their title against some great black fighters. John L. Sullivan, Jim Corbett, Robertfitzsimmons, and Jim Jeffries drew the so-called "color line" and refused to defend their title against worthy black fighters, and there was some good ones that never got a shot. Tommy took much criticism for doing what was right, accepting a challenge from a black fighter, that being Jack Johnson.
This film is the one directing credit for the late great Harry Chapin (1942-81) better known as a songwriter and singer. Not bad for his first go-round!
At 32:08 - 32 to 32:30 to 32:50 to 33:29 to 34:26...Johnson's style 1. measure the distance of arm length to shoulder to jaw to weigh the difference. 2. to use his body to weigh down his opponent. 3. to use his body to toss the opponent around. 4. (a) to use the "weigh down & toss" to launch the right. (b) the left is used for the measure.. left-to-right (c) for the "right & shoulder" supported by the "waist & ribs" give "measure & strength" for the knock out! That's Style,
Great Job ibhof 2, I love it.I forgot about a lot of the early history,and this was a refreshingly good trip down memory lane.Thanks! Oh I have to say,those short shorts are more like a G string.ha ha
Tyson, I'd love to hear your opinion on Bob Fitzsimmons as a fighting man, boxing's first 3 weight world champion although he never weighed much above 12st 7lbs, he was also keen on Cornish wrestling although I'm not too sure how much of it he did, he also had a lion as a pet 100 years before anyone else thought of it, there are pictures of him walking it around on a leash, he must have been one hell of a man in his day, hard times make hard men and I've often wondered if he was the hardest of them all to hold the heavyweight championship and also now into the realms of fantasy - if a guy with that inbuilt hardiness of his times had today's training methods and techniques available to him what would be the end product ? Formidable for sure, even at 12st 7 lbs !, best regards to yourself and your dad , I still have the photo taken of us at your Bolton gym as my Facebook profile pic, loved that day, your dad and me were rabbiting away for a good 2 hours about boxing history !
I wonder if Sonny Liston looked up to Jack Johnson as a fighter, Liston didn't talk much, but I bet he did. I suppose they both had their struggles with racism, and gaining the recognition they deserved. Either way, they were both incredible fighters in their time. RIP to both, I hope they can both look down and see how much they mean to boxing fans today.
I think white fight fans liked Liston more than black fight fans. Black America viewed him as a thug and bad representation of the black community. Had one helluva tough sad life
In the days before meaningful weight classes. Good grief Johnson was basically twice as big as so many of his opponents... yea, they can't hit you if they can't even reach you. His movement reminds of Anderson Silva... if Silva was fighting men 50 pounds lighter.
Jack Johnson was by far the champion of this era. Jack was the first true undisputed champion and he used to play around with everyone. No one was even close too competing with him
1138thz Your the fucking idiot, he was a champion plain and simple its not his fault there was nobody at his level at the time. For this era yeah he was the best I didn't say of all time stupid. Plus when he finally lost to Jess he was 37 years old scheduled to fight 45 rounds and went 26. Could you do that? Again for this ERA yeah he was the best. He was quick, strong, and had great defense. You'd have to be in idiot or racist to think he wasn't the best in that ERA.
And thus, ebonics was born. Where future intercity youths and suburban white kids that admire them would emulate his grammar with the precision of a surgeon. 🍷😏
@33:40 in the video, the narrator takes license, and, fudged the facts of Ketchel;s death. Police records indicate that Ketchel was shot and then pistol whipped by a man and woman in a botched robbery. Ketchel was first shot, then struck with the pistol. Attempts were made to get Ketchel to a hospital, but, Ketchel died. The man received 25 years for murder and the woman received a reduced sentence for robbery. Ketchel was quite a boxer, and, popular in his home state of MI.
I was lucky enough to have met Jack Dempsey in his restaurant on Broadway. Even at his age he was very welcoming and kind to people. I want summer Ali when he was in training in Houston to fight Jimmy ellis. He was shockingly open two people and let me have breakfast with him. For all of his wildness, in a one-to-one person to person basis, he was as sweet and playful has any kid could possibly imagine. Bless their souls.
I would agree, his rapid footwork, defensive head body movements, and knowing the physics behind weight transfer in his punches mark him as the beginning of a new era in the boxing world. Check out his boxing book!
Yeah jack dempsey can fight in any era of boxing. Legendary boxer. U can see the difference between his style of boxing compare to the others in this video
@@delanoarts3703 the first encyclopedias I read looking for information on fighters, Gene Tunney was mentioned along with Dempsey , it also mentioned John L Sullivan.
One other thing, I have a higher opinion of Tommy Burns after seeing more of him. I've only seen his loss to Jack Johnson. He was just too small for Jack. He was a hell of a fighter though. He defended the title around the world. Some say he was avoiding Jack. If he was I understand.
@Washington Is Next! I don't even know what the fuck Tumblr is lol. Yes it does take away from their greatness because they didn't fight the blacks. Sorry but you're the butthurt one.
@@stpbasss3773 Johnson didn't fight any black challangers after winning the title, he outright drew the color line. If Burns is so bad for making Johnson wait, what would that make Johnson?
@@freezinboxing Clay was knocked on his arse by a Sir 'enry left hook with two seconds left, the bell rung and Ali got up and walked to his corner, it was obvious Clay was still dazed he attempted to get up off his stool and that's when Dundee knew Clay was in lala land Dundee and his cornermen used some smelling sauce to revive Clay, Dundee and the cornermen squeezed themselves close together so the cameramen couldn't see what they were doing as smelling sauce was banned in Britian and Dundee ripped a small tare in Clay's glove to buy a few more seconds before the bell rung to start the next round in which Clay fully recuperated ended the fight the next round by hitting Cooper with stinging ripping punches that severely cut Cooper's eye ending the fight, Cooper's eye was cut really bad, the announcer said it was the worst cut eye he'd seen. After Clay went on to beat Liston for the title Cooper gained a rematch with the Champion Clay/Ali and suffered the same fate, a severely bad cut to the eye. Google up Clay v Cooper, good fight early in Clay's career.
An interview with Jeff Willard in, I think 1967 Sports Illustrated, had Willard claim Dempsy had plaster in his gloves. Willard reported that to that day 50 years after the fight that he still had small bone fragments floating above his right temple. I tend to believe Willard...broken jaw, ribs etc., and he still came out for 3 rounds.
Willard was lying- Dempsey was called as an extremely hard puncher by everyone! Look what Mike tyson accomplished by basically stealing/using Dempsey's whole fighting style- he used real physics and science to be able to punch ridiculously hard by getting every pound into every punch, via gravity and leverage and stuff. Check out his book on boxing, "championship fighting" is what it's called I believe.
@@aggremo I think that you have slipped into error. There was no advantage for Willard to lie 40 years after the fact. Willard grew up in a period of time when manhood had implicit trappings. Lying was the domain of women and swine.
@@thomasrhodes5013 There's no evidence for that claim..... Not only that, but the footage of the fight shows Dempsey's hands being wrapped and gloved in the ring, in full view of Willard and his team. Even the same Boxing Illustrated did a test in 1967 to see if it would even work, and as it turned out, using such a technique would make the user cut and break fingers and possibly his hand after only a few punches. Willard also never had broken ribs or teeth etc. Interviews of Willard after the fight only mention brusing and cuts, and interviews a week afterward mention those injuries had mostly healed. The whole broken ribs, half dozen teeth knocked out etc legend was brought on my newspapers to create hype. In summary, the plaster myth has been disproven for many years,
47:56 *Stuntin Police* Jack Johnson is lookin stuuooupid clean in the all white suit with hat and shoes to match. That's too gangster for 1915, I can't allow it.
Fitz and Corbett looked kinda goofy but you gotta respect Bob Fitzsimmons punching power. A righty MW knocked out the HW (ok, cruiserweight) champ of the world with a straight left to the body. That's insane.
Look at the difference between Johnson at the time he fought Jeffries and when he fought Willard. Also look how huge Willard was. He was a big 240 and a big 6'6" !
Got laid out quick by Dempsey a couple years later though. Jeffries was a shell when he fought Johnson, had to lose over 100 pounds before the match. Prime Jonson vs Jeffries would be interesting, though i still think Johnson had the edge due to his defense
Andrew Gardener foolish, are you serious? Just because he was on the wrong side of the racist Mann Act and that too on trumped up charges. Can you imagine the courage it took to get in the ring when majority want to see you lose or worse. He was a champion in every sense of the word!
Why was Gene Tunney not mentioned here, in my opinion he was the best champion from 1882-1929, he was years ahead of his time. He fought 20 rounds against Dempsey and won 19 round of them and also beat Greb multiple times aswell as being one of the only champions to retire on top as a champion.
I urge anyone who hasn't already seen it to watch the Jack Johnson documentary "unforgivable blackness" because there's a lot of history been conveniently skipped over and/or re-written in this.. such as the claim that Jefferies retired in 1905 with "no one left to fight". When in fact,, Johnson had been challenging him since 1903.
Johnson chased them chappies all over the world. That's for sure. Knocking their arses out. That fight where he was blocking the sun out of his eyes that he decided to dive. Wasn't nothing to prove.
@@aarondigby5054 There remains no evidence to support the dive accusation. His hands literally drop after three seconds when he passes out on the ground during the count. Have you not watched the fight?
At 34:00..the fight between Ketchel and Johnson was supposed to be light sparring. (They both agreed)..but when Ketchel went off script and tried knocking Johnson out, Johnson got up and just leveled him...lol. Edit: you can also see Johnson try to dislodge 2 of Ketchels teeth that got stuck in his glove.
Under his ruleset perhaps, but if he fought against modern fighters, with modern rules he would be obliterated. This is due to his style, which chiefly focused on three areas, clinching, catching, and patience. Under modern rules clinching is basically prohibited past a second or two, so Johnson wouldn't be able to wear down his opponents in his favorite way. His style of catching his opponents punches with his glove and countering while effective in his time where punches were seldom thrown more than two at a time, would also do poorly in the modern era, where quick combinations exceeding 7 or more blows are commonplace, and are often much less telegraphed than in Johnsons day. Johnson was of course known for his stamina and patience, where he could sometimes wait a large number of rounds, for his opponent to wear down, the perfect moment to land the final knockout punch. The workrate of boxers has gone up significantly since the days of 35-70 rounds, and in a standard 12 round fight Johnson would be overwhelmed, boxing was more often fought like a game of chess in Johnsons era.
This film was made by singer-songwriter Harry Chapin (Cats in the cradle) for Bill Cayton back in 1968. Clayton’s next film was an awesome one: Jack Johnson’ 1970, music by Miles Davis
7:32 is the wrong Marquis of Queensbury. You want his dad: John Sholto Douglas, 9th Marquess of Queensberry (20 July 1844 - 31 January 1900). He was a brute and looked it. Fabulous video btw, bravo!
He was Irish , but did his best to all but hide that fact for the rest of his life . First to go was his Irish accent . He was very much the " English " gentleman in all but place of birth .
The most modern fighter in the video Jack Dempsey was the superior fighter out of all of them! Tunney was a master boxer and I truly believe he would be competive at light heavyweight even now. Ali and Tyson have agreed with my statement. Tunney was 50-60 yrs ahead of his time!
Before bareknuckle there was spiked knuckles. Boxers wore spiked straps around their fists. There used to be such fights in Stillwater, Minnesota back in the day. Long before film was commonplace. ..
@@rebelliousredneckvlogs probably another Paul Bunyan tall tale, I've never heard that before but I can't totally debunk it as fiction. People love bloodsport.
Wilde was indeed Irish but he hated people knowing he was. He soon lost his his Irish accent when he came to England and saw himself as very much the English upper class dandy.
It's amazing that all those fighters and spectators are all dead yet we can enjoy watching them, even though at the time we weren't even born yet, our parents weren't even born yet
Multiverse they must exist still somewhere
Oldest people alive right now were born around 1906 so some very old people alive now were wondering about as kids when jack johnson fought Willard
this is great stuff. I love the old footage. I've researched old photos and drawings; and read lots of different accounts of these fights, but its nice to see some film
What incredible footage. Thanks for uploading
We can debate and dissect all the great fighters but at the end of the day you couldnt pay me enoigh to get in the ring with them. Mad respect.
Jack Johnson fighting 45 rounds if necessary. God damn blood sport back then. Cracked ribs, broken jaw, dozen teeth knocked out, smdh. That shytt was gruesome.
Tommy Burns is severely underrated, 13 title defenses with a wicked right hand and good boxing skills all while being only 5'7 168lbs. He also did what none had done before and gave a black contender a chance to win the crown. Even though Jack Johnson outweighed him by almost forty pounds, he lasted an impressive 14 rounds against an all-time great champion.
Tommy Burns was short in height, light in weight, but he had the heart of a lion. Tommy fought and beat some good fighters in his career.There is a couple of Tommy Burn fight videos available on RUclips. Tommy also opened the door for black fighters in getting a title shot from the reigning Champion. Prior to Tommy's reign as the Champ, there were four previous heavyweight champions that refused to defend their title against some great black fighters. John L. Sullivan, Jim Corbett, Robertfitzsimmons, and Jim Jeffries drew the so-called "color line" and refused to defend their title against worthy black fighters, and there was some good ones that never got a shot. Tommy took much criticism for doing what was right, accepting a challenge from a black fighter, that being Jack Johnson.
Thanks for upload. Brilliant!
Corbett shorts had me stitches.Gentleman Jim distracted many me think lol, great footage in this doc thnx for the upload.
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Kirk Douglas????
If you're referencing Spartacus that was Woody Strode
Jim Corbett's thong though.....
So basically Boxing started out as MMA
Amazing how things come full circle.
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He said circle, jerk!
It also does not even mention the trouble Johnson had to cross the color line. The whole thing glosses over the overt racism of the time.
MMA is nothing new at all. What do you Pankration was?!
MMA without the kicking.
This was a lot of fun, thank you very much!
fantastic documentary. thanks for uploading!
Lots of great fighters on here. Legends.
This film is the one directing credit for the late great Harry Chapin (1942-81) better known as a songwriter and singer. Not bad for his first go-round!
Erik Thomas Thanks for mentioning that. :)
Yes thanks
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What an awesome film! Thanks for posting. Love to see body blows causing knockouts.
Great video, covers it all. I've learned a ton about how society was back then too. Thank you
Jack Johnson punished all of them. Greatest fighter of the era
Yes, but considerably short and sweet. What, 10 years?
Both Sullivan and Fitz would have rocked Johnson
No doubt
If someone can put the full 77 minute uncut version of this excellent documentary on RUclips we boxing history fans would be very happy 😃
Oscar Wilde was Irish
ruclips.net/video/iRliuRaDkvk/видео.html It's actually 99.5 minutes.
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At 32:08 - 32 to 32:30 to 32:50 to 33:29 to 34:26...Johnson's style
1. measure the distance of arm length to shoulder to jaw to weigh the difference.
2. to use his body to weigh down his opponent.
3. to use his body to toss the opponent around.
4. (a) to use the "weigh down & toss" to launch the right.
(b) the left is used for the measure.. left-to-right
(c) for the "right & shoulder" supported by the "waist & ribs"
give "measure & strength" for the knock out!
That's Style,
Rest in Peace Sir 'Enry.
Sir again thank you sooo much i knew many thing from this video i bow down and salute you.
Thanks for posting this
Thanks for posting. It is a treasure of films crammed into one documentary.
Great Job ibhof 2, I love it.I forgot about a lot of the early history,and this was a refreshingly good trip down memory lane.Thanks! Oh I have to say,those short shorts are more like a G string.ha ha
Man these early bouts where ruthless! 45 three minute rounds!
I may be the best today but without these great Boxing🥊 heavyweight champions i would not be here today
Wood have love to see you and jim Jeffries
Tyson, I'd love to hear your opinion on Bob Fitzsimmons as a fighting man, boxing's first 3 weight world champion although he never weighed much above 12st 7lbs, he was also keen on Cornish wrestling although I'm not too sure how much of it he did, he also had a lion as a pet 100 years before anyone else thought of it, there are pictures of him walking it around on a leash, he must have been one hell of a man in his day, hard times make hard men and I've often wondered if he was the hardest of them all to hold the heavyweight championship and also now into the realms of fantasy - if a guy with that inbuilt hardiness of his times had today's training methods and techniques available to him what would be the end product ? Formidable for sure, even at 12st 7 lbs !, best regards to yourself and your dad , I still have the photo taken of us at your Bolton gym as my Facebook profile pic, loved that day, your dad and me were rabbiting away for a good 2 hours about boxing history !
Is this the real Tyson fury lol
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Hello ,Has the film showcasing The Great Jack Johnson been loaded & is available ? If Not ,where would one find that ?
I got draw into to this one. Thank you for that experience!
I wonder if Sonny Liston looked up to Jack Johnson as a fighter, Liston didn't talk much, but I bet he did.
I suppose they both had their struggles with racism, and gaining the recognition they deserved. Either way, they were both incredible fighters in their time. RIP to both, I hope they can both look down and see how much they mean to boxing fans today.
I think white fight fans liked Liston more than black fight fans. Black America viewed him as a thug and bad representation of the black community. Had one helluva tough sad life
In the days before meaningful weight classes. Good grief Johnson was basically twice as big as so many of his opponents... yea, they can't hit you if they can't even reach you. His movement reminds of Anderson Silva... if Silva was fighting men 50 pounds lighter.
Great documentary salute and love
Great video. So complete and entertaining.
As a sport historian, this was invaluable...
Jim Corbett's thong though.....
What an awesome video!
Jack Johnson was by far the champion of this era. Jack was the first true undisputed champion and he used to play around with everyone. No one was even close too competing with him
100% agreed, Matthew.
1138thz
Your the fucking idiot, he was a champion plain and simple its not his fault there was nobody at his level at the time. For this era yeah he was the best I didn't say of all time stupid. Plus when he finally lost to Jess he was 37 years old scheduled to fight 45 rounds and went 26. Could you do that? Again for this ERA yeah he was the best. He was quick, strong, and had great defense. You'd have to be in idiot or racist to think he wasn't the best in that ERA.
wrong jackass Jack Dempsey owned all fighters
bulshit
Matthew Buffetkiller
'bulshit'? Did you mean bullshit? once again it is apparent that you need to get some treatment for your syphilis corroded brain.
For what it's worth, I gotta go with Jack Johnson.... Would have loved to have seen dempsey versus marciano because styles make fights.
Fitz was a beast
Fitz a beast But that beast got knocked out by Jeffries twice.
I’m sorry I can’t stop laughing- the ref was referring in the third row
Jack Johnson was a badass! He didn’t give a f*ck.
True
WHO cares????
@@mr.blackhawk142 you replied so clearly you do...
@@mr.blackhawk142 WHO are you????
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Truly
I am surprised that Jem Mace rarely gets a mention in these very good documentarys.
Was gonna say
@@Danmasonnnn fights were gruesome, 45 rounds if necessary, no standing eight count, just beat the crap out of a sob, smdh.
People were so free of shame back them. Life seemed fun.
"Iz you havin fun mista Tommy?" The original gangsta.
He carried burns for ages prolonging his beating
And thus, ebonics was born. Where future intercity youths and suburban white kids that admire them would emulate his grammar with the precision of a surgeon. 🍷😏
@@tobysharpe1041 Nope, he didn't have what it took to take him out earlier.
@33:40 in the video, the narrator takes license, and, fudged the facts of Ketchel;s death. Police records indicate that Ketchel was shot and then pistol whipped by a man and woman in a botched robbery. Ketchel was first shot, then struck with the pistol. Attempts were made to get Ketchel to a hospital, but, Ketchel died. The man received 25 years for murder and the woman received a reduced sentence for robbery. Ketchel was quite a boxer, and, popular in his home state of MI.
You are legendary as well, Sir Henry Cooper, R.I.P.
you know things are about to get real when the ref has to remove his tuxedo jacket :(
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I was lucky enough to have met Jack Dempsey in his restaurant on Broadway. Even at his age he was very welcoming and kind to people. I want summer Ali when he was in training in Houston to fight Jimmy ellis. He was shockingly open two people and let me have breakfast with him. For all of his wildness, in a one-to-one person to person basis, he was as sweet and playful has any kid could possibly imagine. Bless their souls.
wau..... very thank you for this boxing history
jack dempsey was the first modern boxer! look his style!
Mike Tysons favorite.
Agreed. He was the beginning of the next generation of boxing.
I would agree, his rapid footwork, defensive head body movements, and knowing the physics behind weight transfer in his punches mark him as the beginning of a new era in the boxing world. Check out his boxing book!
Yeah jack dempsey can fight in any era of boxing.
Legendary boxer.
U can see the difference between his style of boxing compare to the others in this video
The singer Harry Chapin directed this Doc.
Thanks. That was cool.
20 rd fights that's insane lol major props
Some over 45-70
"is you havin fun mr.tommy" LOL
That's more or less what Willard said to Johnson later on.
gentleman jim corbett fought a "61" round draw :) unbelievable right...
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Hugged each other and threw 5 punches a round
This Is Incomplete There Is no Dempsey-Firpo And Gene Tunney Was Left Out Completely
i also have the vhs copy you would think that it could have been copied from the vhs copy because corbett- fitzimmons fight was even older
It's in another documentary mate
Dempsey was to great to be shared with other boxers to talk about him would be only about him
@@delanoarts3703 the first encyclopedias I read looking for information on fighters, Gene Tunney was mentioned along with Dempsey , it also mentioned John L Sullivan.
One other thing, I have a higher opinion of Tommy Burns after seeing more of him. I've only seen his loss to Jack Johnson. He was just too small for Jack. He was a hell of a fighter though. He defended the title around the world. Some say he was avoiding Jack. If he was I understand.
There's a whole documentary on Johnson and yes burns was a pussy and ran for years. He was a racist piece of human garbage.
@Washington Is Next! I don't even know what the fuck Tumblr is lol. Yes it does take away from their greatness because they didn't fight the blacks. Sorry but you're the butthurt one.
@@stpbasss3773 You sound mighty anti-white, and if you're white, you sound like you'd rather be something else.
@@stpbasss3773 BS !
@@stpbasss3773 Johnson didn't fight any black challangers after winning the title, he outright drew the color line. If Burns is so bad for making Johnson wait, what would that make Johnson?
Great film alot I did not know before..I enjoyed it very much..thanks for uploading!!!
RIP Sir Henry Cooper.
If Dundee hadn't cheated, he'd have kayoed Clay in their first fight.
@@freezinboxing Clay was knocked on his arse by a Sir 'enry left hook with two seconds left, the bell rung and Ali got up and walked to his corner, it was obvious Clay was still dazed he attempted to get up off his stool and that's when Dundee knew Clay was in lala land Dundee and his cornermen used some smelling sauce to revive Clay, Dundee and the cornermen squeezed themselves close together so the cameramen couldn't see what they were doing as smelling sauce was banned in Britian and Dundee ripped a small tare in Clay's glove to buy a few more seconds before the bell rung to start the next round in which Clay fully recuperated ended the fight the next round by hitting Cooper with stinging ripping punches that severely cut Cooper's eye ending the fight, Cooper's eye was cut really bad, the announcer said it was the worst cut eye he'd seen. After Clay went on to beat Liston for the title Cooper gained a rematch with the Champion Clay/Ali and suffered the same fate, a severely bad cut to the eye. Google up Clay v Cooper, good fight early in Clay's career.
Two things. Jack Johnson was a baller, and Jack Dempsey was on another level.
An interview with Jeff Willard in, I think 1967 Sports Illustrated, had Willard claim Dempsy had plaster in his gloves. Willard reported that to that day 50 years after the fight that he still had small bone fragments floating above his right temple. I tend to believe Willard...broken jaw, ribs etc., and he still came out for 3 rounds.
Willard was lying- Dempsey was called as an extremely hard puncher by everyone! Look what Mike tyson accomplished by basically stealing/using Dempsey's whole fighting style- he used real physics and science to be able to punch ridiculously hard by getting every pound into every punch, via gravity and leverage and stuff. Check out his book on boxing, "championship fighting" is what it's called I believe.
@@aggremo I think that you have slipped into error. There was no advantage for Willard to lie 40 years after the fact. Willard grew up in a period of time when manhood had implicit trappings. Lying was the domain of women and swine.
@@thomasrhodes5013 There's no evidence for that claim..... Not only that, but the footage of the fight shows Dempsey's hands being wrapped and gloved in the ring, in full view of Willard and his team. Even the same Boxing Illustrated did a test in 1967 to see if it would even work, and as it turned out, using such a technique would make the user cut and break fingers and possibly his hand after only a few punches. Willard also never had broken ribs or teeth etc. Interviews of Willard after the fight only mention brusing and cuts, and interviews a week afterward mention those injuries had mostly healed. The whole broken ribs, half dozen teeth knocked out etc legend was brought on my newspapers to create hype. In summary, the plaster myth has been disproven for many years,
@@keeganbluegrass citations please
Jack Johnson needs a movie.
There is a GREAT documentary on him.
47:56 *Stuntin Police* Jack Johnson is lookin stuuooupid clean in the all white suit with hat and shoes to match. That's too gangster for 1915, I can't allow it.
its hard to imagine.
Fitz and Corbett looked kinda goofy but you gotta respect Bob Fitzsimmons punching power. A righty MW knocked out the HW (ok, cruiserweight) champ of the world with a straight left to the body. That's insane.
Ling Bon Where does the section on Bob Fitzsimmons start? I can't find it.
George Havenhand near the beginning. Right after the section about jls
+Ling Bon did you like the shorts of Corbett?
tonir
+balkoth03 jim corbett was the first boxer skill who invented foot work and the left jab.
It’s crazy how long ago this was in 2100 they will see today’s fighters d same way
Dempsey had cement in those fists...literally! Ha!
Thanks
Fantastic vid
"What you got Tommy?!"
"What you got, Jackie", said Jess.
Look at the difference between Johnson at the time he fought Jeffries and when he fought Willard. Also look how huge Willard was. He was a big 240 and a big 6'6" !
Got laid out quick by Dempsey a couple years later though. Jeffries was a shell when he fought Johnson, had to lose over 100 pounds before the match. Prime Jonson vs Jeffries would be interesting, though i still think Johnson had the edge due to his defense
Too much bacon and egg. Over the years it piles up in your arteries.
I feel like those dudes in the furst ever filmed fight I could take. See the way those guys wound up and boxed just wild as hell😂
Nice video i have seen many times
Notice the intro skips Jack Johnson yet shows him several times, i can't imagine the shit he went through in his career
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He was fearless and a bit foolish .
@@georgeelmerdenbrough6906 👴🏿🚬👵🏿🚬 U STUPID
Andrew Gardener foolish, are you serious? Just because he was on the wrong side of the racist Mann Act and that too on trumped up charges. Can you imagine the courage it took to get in the ring when majority want to see you lose or worse. He was a champion in every sense of the word!
Mohammad Qasmi I agree, he was the only black man I the stadium’s kicking ass and trash talking to boot
Why was Gene Tunney not mentioned here, in my opinion he was the best champion from 1882-1929, he was years ahead of his time. He fought 20 rounds against Dempsey and won 19 round of them and also beat Greb multiple times aswell as being one of the only champions to retire on top as a champion.
Because. That's why.
Jack Johnson's story is a sad one.
As an Irish man, Oscar Wilde being called English pisses me right off 😂 he’s irish, born in Ireland and he died in France!!! Ugh 🇮🇪🇮🇪
I urge anyone who hasn't already seen it to watch the Jack Johnson documentary "unforgivable blackness" because there's a lot of history been conveniently skipped over and/or re-written in this.. such as the claim that Jefferies retired in 1905 with "no one left to fight". When in fact,, Johnson had been challenging him since 1903.
A very informative and powerful documentary. For “ sho “
Wow to see the first fight ever filmed! To amazing 😲
Indeed I Saw unforgivable blackness, very VERY GOOD DOCUMENTARY.
Johnson chased them chappies all over the world. That's for sure. Knocking their arses out. That fight where he was blocking the sun out of his eyes that he decided to dive. Wasn't nothing to prove.
@@aarondigby5054 There remains no evidence to support the dive accusation. His hands literally drop after three seconds when he passes out on the ground during the count. Have you not watched the fight?
Great to see you again Henry! Did you ever get to keep the razor that Angelo Dundee used to cut Cassius Clay's glove?
At 34:00..the fight between Ketchel and Johnson was supposed to be light sparring. (They both agreed)..but when Ketchel went off script and tried knocking Johnson out, Johnson got up and just leveled him...lol.
Edit: you can also see Johnson try to dislodge 2 of Ketchels teeth that got stuck in his glove.
Ive heard this before, not sure if its verified... Do you have any idea?
@@rebelliousredneckvlogs about the teeth?..No, I've just heard it mentioned on many documentaries about this fight.
It's Johnson who went off script first, knocking down Ketchel in the second round and then a second time before finally Stanley floored Jack Johnson.
Very cool.
Great doc👍
Today's boxers boxing 75 rounds bare-knuckle I wonder how many of them could hang in there
great
Tommy Burns was Canadian by the way.
Correct
Yessir 👍
My dad was from Canada
Love this vedio..
I think Jack Johnson Better Than a lot of Fighters today and he fought in 1910 12
Why? Because other people say that?
@@HumphreyPennyworth Whats your problem?Every mention of Johnson and you show your ignorance
Under his ruleset perhaps, but if he fought against modern fighters, with modern rules he would be obliterated. This is due to his style, which chiefly focused on three areas, clinching, catching, and patience. Under modern rules clinching is basically prohibited past a second or two, so Johnson wouldn't be able to wear down his opponents in his favorite way. His style of catching his opponents punches with his glove and countering while effective in his time where punches were seldom thrown more than two at a time, would also do poorly in the modern era, where quick combinations exceeding 7 or more blows are commonplace, and are often much less telegraphed than in Johnsons day. Johnson was of course known for his stamina and patience, where he could sometimes wait a large number of rounds, for his opponent to wear down, the perfect moment to land the final knockout punch. The workrate of boxers has gone up significantly since the days of 35-70 rounds, and in a standard 12 round fight Johnson would be overwhelmed, boxing was more often fought like a game of chess in Johnsons era.
pancho villa ....wanted to promote the fight...
This great movie has been severely edited-someone please put the uncut version on you tube please!!!
This film was made by singer-songwriter Harry Chapin (Cats in the cradle) for Bill Cayton back in 1968. Clayton’s next film was an awesome one: Jack Johnson’ 1970, music by Miles Davis
Robert Boyle. I disagree. Johnson lost those fights in exile and didn't train. In his prime, he was dominant. One of the best ever
+ronjeremy65 The greatest in my opinion.
@@cflo1386 Why?
WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated.
Legendary champions please
7:32 is the wrong Marquis of Queensbury. You want his dad: John Sholto Douglas, 9th Marquess of Queensberry (20 July 1844 - 31 January 1900). He was a brute and looked it.
Fabulous video btw, bravo!
Oscar Wilde was IRISH, not English...
He was Irish , but did his best to all but hide that fact for the rest of his life . First to go was his Irish accent . He was very much the " English " gentleman in all but place of birth .
@DOE John
I heard he was a pansy.
Should call him your great great aunt.
The most modern fighter in the video Jack Dempsey was the superior fighter out of all of them! Tunney was a master boxer and I truly believe he would be competive at light heavyweight even now. Ali and Tyson have agreed with my statement. Tunney was 50-60 yrs ahead of his time!
Born in Mississippi and never knew about Sullivan fighting here
Is there another vid with the next decade or two?
wish there was lol.
this documentary was written & directed by a very young Harry Chapin.
Before bareknuckle there was spiked knuckles. Boxers wore spiked straps around their fists. There used to be such fights in Stillwater, Minnesota back in the day. Long before film was commonplace.
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Jesus christ I cant even imagine
@@rebelliousredneckvlogs probably another Paul Bunyan tall tale, I've never heard that before but I can't totally debunk it as fiction. People love bloodsport.
Ketchel must be one hell of a puncher. Knocked down a heavyweight for a 9 count with one punch.
e1ghtys1x one of the biggest punchers ever at 160.
He was an awesome banger, but he lacked other skills. He won his fights on his power. He was a mean and nasty fighter.
@@HumphreyPennyworth Somewhat quick on his feet too.
"Famous english writer.. Oscar Wilde.." tsk tsk... !! :)
👴🏿🚬WEAR KIRK DOUGLAS AT?💋
@@billybarty2948 Are you the real Billy Barty? It must have been your Father that we watched in movies & on tv.
He was actually Irish, and it's 'English', not english.
they can keep him. was a clown
Wilde was indeed Irish but he hated people knowing he was. He soon lost his his Irish accent when he came to England and saw himself as very much the English upper class dandy.
Gene Wilder?
Those Corbett trunks riding just a tad high...
Anyone know the song name when this video first starts?
The one that looked of crookery was the the 1919 bout