VALAVERSE GETTING WORSE!?!? Action Force Series 4 Review Actual!!
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2024
- If you’re looking for a TRUE and GENUINE Un-Biased, NON-SHILL Review for ALL things Valaverse:Action Force, then congratulations time to celebrate you’ve finally come home and made it to the right place!!!!
The Excitement for Series 4 was at an all time high!!! Until actually receiving, playing, and posing with them did that excitement turn to confusion and disappointment.
The Overall QUALITY of Valaverse has significantly taken a nosedive and hopefully that changes quickly! It would be an absolute shame to have to stop collecting this very much needed line.
URGE and IMPLORE YOU to WATCH this VIDEO in its ENTIRETY, BEFORE COMMENTING!!!
-Otherwise it will be obvious…Looking forward to hearing the community’s thoughts on Current Valaverse Quality.
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For me the main pull of the wave was the gas mask pack as well as accessories. The urban commando surprisingly had no issues you listed. As well as the tracer. But I have no arctic so I have no clue. I wish the hands were gummy so that popping in and out is easier but overall I've had a fine time with it. Valid review. Just sucks that the comment section is full of people who either hate or love vala. I love valas stuff but if someone is having a bad time with it. It should be seen so the line improves further.
This guy gets it!! ^^ Thank you for the great and well written comment. That is EXACTLY the point of this video, nothing more.
-Didn’t count the tracer cause he’s made of a different plastic, but will take your word on the urban trooper which is good to hear. Agree with you on the hands point. They definitely need a to use a different durometer level or plastic altogether. Hope they do…
Great base body that just keeps going. But I buy mostly weapons packs and main characters now.
the brown ring on Desert Condor is a the effect of a certain youtuber's constant brown nosing of another youtuber. no names mentioned
I recommend silocone shock oil for the joints. It make the articulation smooth and keeps the joints from locking up even when the figure cools down. That way you avoid having to keep reheating unless you are swapping heads or hands.
Sounds like a great tip but does it make the figure oily afterwards?
@shadowtoysphotography No, it only takes a very small amount. Try it on a knee joint, then work the articulation. Afterwards wipe off the excess, and you're good to go.
Somebody posted a while back to use hand cream. It worked like a charm. No longer need to heat them up. Just rub it all over the joints, move them around, and wipe off the excess.
These are great tips but with all these creams and oils needed to move them around are we playing with figures or playing masseuses?
@shadowtoysphotography We shouldn't have to, but it is what it is. The shock oil is used for RC cars. It's good for motorized parts.
The first wave was really stiff for sure. I had to soak it in hot water, and it's still not as flexible as the newish ones I bought later, which are nice wo hot water. Did it anyways and It's pretty good.
The weapons should fit better now the stocks were kinda big so I will see when I get mine
Great video man!! I made a 1/12th scale, full ghillie suit a while back. Pants, jacket and hat. All hand sewn. I used distressed yarn in earth colors for the camo jute.
Awesome and thank you!!
Nice dioramas on your page.
@@Getbaddudes thank you!!!
Omfg that desert rat headsculpt is pure nightmare fuel. Reminds me of the Come To Daddy music video.
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I like everything about AF figures, except the traps. They are ugly and stick up to much on the edges. They really look weird on Covert Ops Condor with the short accessory on top.
Ugly as they are they do allow them to properly hold a weapon and have them look through the sight, which you can’t do with a GI Joe.
Have to agree with him about stiff joints, i have a duster and a roullout figures. as someone whos been collecting just NECA figures for couple of years it's perfectly normal to use hairdryer to heat up your figures before moving and posing the. The first time i didn't heat up my Duster figure his nec peg broke and it's because there isn't enough space between the head and the neck peg. I don't say just because one breakage this toys are crap, but hard plastic pegs and no room for joints to move it's not a QC issues, it jus a issues that they have to fix. If they changed plastic for the joints this toy line would be great, but until then its just mediocre. Don't get guys who are all into any toyline and they will defend it no matter what.
Oh man you are going to get some hell from a few toxic vala shills. 😂
I am going to get Condor.
had to cancel a few preorders because of the stiffness of the lower parts on a lot of those figures, can't boil them every time you want to move them...upper part is fun to move though...the line is still young though
😂😂😂😂 The legs are made of adamantium. Wolverine legs mixed with Charleston Chew ankles.😂😂😂😂.
Seriously why!! 😭
Iceberg. The Joe was iceberg.
The big one is scar H that fires 7.62 while the small one is the scar L that fires 5.56
SCAR 17 is the 7.62 NATO. The one chambered in 5.56 NATO is the SCAR 16,
Do you plan on getting the extreme Toys Arkham Knight Batman?
No but did just po the Nightmare deathstroke.
The one with the mask reminds me of Beach Head or a snowy version of Snake Eyes.
Definitely his snowy snake eyes. Blowback is his beachhead. Check out the vala comparison video where I point out which ones are his joe counterparts.
So you think this series was scale to centimeters instead of inches?
Kind of but more seems like centimeters of plastic were stealthily taken out from these figures and accessories overall. It’s just a hunch but something feels…less. Like overall scale and mass.
I have a few of the snow troopers not a single issue with them. Right now they are sizing up with my snow serpent squad led by Snow job. A few Steel Brigade snow troopers for back up. Personally I think I’ve used less heat on any of wave 4. Still need a little heat on head swaps and some handle
I just got the Desert Condor & the Pandora re-release, and i think youre exaggerating. Condor is a little stiff but nothing crazy. My experience is, regardless of brand, the ones that are "smooth" out of the box end up loose. To be fair, there's always variations in mass produced products. Maybe you're just unlucky lol
Just because you had a good experience doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem. Not to mention you said you just got them. These are first releases so maybe they course corrected for the other batches made afterwards.
Well the line is strictly a military action figure line. You can only change it up so many times. You basically have to offer new weapons and uniforms.
Agreed but it’s more of a sci-fi military line so there’s room for more new stuff.
@@shadowtoysphotography Ummm Legend Of The White Dragon?
What about it?
@@shadowtoysphotographyit’s a brand new line from them.
@@shadowtoysphotography and it’s not military themed
The figures I have a fine - a couple from each series, and yes some of them DO have such rigid joints that they are a pain to articulate - but Bobby cannot do decent portraits. Whoever is ok-ing those shouting/screaming faces needs to go find something else to do because they are comically bad.
Same and agreed on the shouting faces point. They’re missing a furrowed brow. Otherwise they look like they’re just at the dentist like that new 100th figure unmasked portrait from them.
The line started out awesome. It's run out of steam. It's the same figure over and over in different colors now. How is a line that's only 3 years old already have 3 versions of the same character and this many repaints?
That’s the same as saying how is it that we got 7 different versions of Snake eyes in the span of 3 years which reuses body molds from previous figures as time goes on? Not to mention the mass amounts of repaints released by Hasbro all end up at Ollie’s or Ross by the end of the year.
@@rokkieteller5421repaints in classified account for maybe 20% of the line. While repaints in valaverse account for 80% of the line. Its because booby hasn't found any new ideas online to copy and claim as orginal...
@@rokkieteller5421 i collect both lines and action force has 2, or 3 body types for the entire line. Talking about repaints hehehe
@@maddrop and we’re getting 6 new body molds coming in the next wave which is a lot more effort than what Hasbro will put out in a single year for Gi joe. Also good to see you here boy, I see you got more growing up to do.
@@rokkieteller5421 i will repeat "2 body molds for the entire line" and your answer is "they are going to do new molds" and "i need growing up more"?! With your age and your response makes me think you are beyond repair.
Get well soon, if you can.
…this is hilarious, I was taking you seriously until you started pulling and bending the boot on the republic guard. Look at your fingernails turn white from the pressure. Mine seem fine, a little stiff to turn, but way better than the gummy figures hasbro has been delivering. I got a couple coming from bbts, I’ll see how they are. I started at wave 3, so I can’t compare to prior, only vs joes.
I agree with you on all the toy lines pretty much nowadays,but try the glow fig on this line,he is smooth as anything I ever felt.but mythical legion you have to hit with a blow dryer sometimes,.but it's like they are all going cheap cheap cheaper
Valaworse?... Addendum: Bobby Vala never did SCAR 17s. Only SCAR 16s... There is also a compact SCAR16S (compact), but it seems Bobby Vala first took the SCAR17 model, but gave it magazines for 5.56mm.
And the suppressors are actually a good thing. Most operatives use them. a) it reduces the noise for the shooter. Especially with 7.62mm NATO, that bang is loud. And usually you don't wear earmuffs in combat. b) They are very effective flash hiders (so don't display suppressed guns with muzzle flashes), and c) newer suppressors reduce the amount of powder residue the shooter might inhale (OH&S). You can not "silence" supersonic ammunition, so the idea that these are for covert ops is false.
Don’t mind silencers on weapons just as long as they are removable. The difference between real life scars, as you mentioned, are barrel and ammo sizes, NOT the actual entire total mass size of the gun itself which was the point. His first released scar was too big and this new one is too small. We need one that’s juuuust righttt.
@@shadowtoysphotography Suppressors, not silencers. They might reduce the noise of the initial bang by 30db. Further, you can not silence, what goes super sonic. You’d have to use sub-sonic ammo, but that goes with a big loss in range, penetration power, etc. Making them removable on the toys might cause problems with breaking bits/barrels, bents, because it would all be even more spindly than it is now. Or the barrels might end up being too big.
Bobby Vala released much worse things than that. The Swarm Troopers come with a Kriss Vector Carbine. Those are meant for the civilian market. Meaning a) semi-auto only, the long barrel is to prevent concealed carrying, and they have Glock mags inserted (17/19 rounds with 9mm, 13 with .45 ACP). He can get away with that, because most customers have no idea.
Silencers/suppressors, clips/mags, for example is splitting terminology hairs. I see what you’re saying and not only agree but admire your passion for military accuracy but you’re comparing real world to action figures. You’re talking about Bobby didn’t add the right magazines to his flying sci-fi bug men. Again I agree and will be more mindful when using some certain terminology going forward, however you have to leave some room for occasional inaccuracies. Going back to my original point about the scar I’m simply saying it is out of scale for 1/12, closer to 5 inch, that’s all.
@@shadowtoysphotography nah, a clip is usually what you used with bolt-action rifles. That metal strip, where the cartridges are attached to, and then you put it onto the rifle‘s breech, and slide down the bullets into the internal magazine. People sometimes call box magazines clips, but that‘s a fallacy, not hairsplitting.
Regarding the Vector CRB, it‘s way more than just the wrong mag. Those guns are entirely useless for warfare.
Ah you’re the guy who’s holding Bobby accountable for him saying that he wanted to keep his line grounded. Love your videos btw! Really good stuff! Again, I’m willing to let some inaccuracies fly just as long as it makes sense and is functional, however agree that the long barrel vectors and maxim-9s can go away forever.
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Bro it’s been 2+ years and they still can’t give me a figure with drop-down hips that work. I have to crack open the pelvis, sand down the discs, and then they’ll work. And yet everyone glazes this brand, why?
Never been a fan of the drop downs so whether they work or not makes no difference to me just as long as the leg can still articulate. When they do make figures well this line can be really fun to collect. Don’t understand why ppl get so bent over whenever there’s an issue or problem either tho.
Have you ever owned any DC Icons with drop down hips? They’re pure breakage nightmare fuel.
"Subtracted centimeters"? You mean millimeters? 1 centimeter would be highly obvious in a figure of this scale.
Maybe you just misspoke in your rush to badmouth and exaggerate everything about these figures.
Didn’t misspeak but it’s a fair argument to say they took away both in certain places. Sorry that these facts bother you.
@@shadowtoysphotography Your opinions don't bother me. I posted just to let others know. (Those who know units of distance.)
You didn’t get the initial point that was made and yet you’re going to correct people for it? Ok…
My problem is its been 4 years and he keeps selling us the same buck. He has to change it soon. I have 8 figures and feel like I have all of them.
He is changing it. There are new bodies next series. He has to get a few waves out of them before making new ones. It's only been 3 years, what do you expect? Hasbro was reusing their bodies for 12 years or so.
you don't want it to be a bashing video? Not like the valaverse fanatics don't do bashing videos, NOOOOOOOO!!!!
Lol!!
Just add a tiny bit of WD40 and everything’s fine
That’s a good tip to fix the stiffness but doesn’t help the plastic quality unfortunately.
End of the day, the Joe brand almost across the board has better head sculpts than Valaverse. Some exceptions, but I mean...Sarge the perfect 1:1 example. Also, let's be honest -- Classified is pulling from like 20+ base bodies at this point. Valaverse has like 4. It is purely a line of repaints at this stage. Now, I love the articulation scheme for VV, but sculpt and variety are issues. And frankly, at this point, so is value. $55 for Blowback? What are we doing?
Think the GI Joe character you were talking about is Iceberg.
He said it came with a canoe I remember stalker coming with a kayak that was white and his accessories were artic, just wondering could it be him.
LMAO @ the Valaverse fanboys angry in the comments. I collect both Valaverse and Classified Series, but both have their problems. I don't know why people get butt hurt because someone has criticism of a toyline.
People say Hasbro is bad for reuse but Action Force is the same three bodies repainted for YEARS now.
You’re really going to compare a small indie toy company to Hasbro?!?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I bet you cannot wait to buy 6,000 more Bucky cap repaints!!
It’s cool if you do and I understand but trying to paint Valaverse with hasbro’s insane repaint usage is hilarious and tone deaf. But hey you do you.
Surprised to find a video criticizing Valaverse. Just doesn't happen in my wanderings.
I like the Valaverse builders and I like supporting new and niche lines. I've given Valaverse a few hundred bucks across a few dozen figures.
I had three Eclipses. All broke in the hips. Moved her head to the female steel brigade and I find those bodies are better. Has to be something with that plastic.
Pandora is the figure that felt the most quality and still does.
All my other male builders are super stiff and feel fragile to the touch. Again, it's mostly the legs and hips, even with heating.
I'm no stranger to heating as an avid Four Horsemen line collector, but the Valaverse figures don't come out like a one and done maintenance.
Your last paragraph hit the nail on the head. Shouldn’t have to heat up our figures but if we do they better move like a dream afterwards otherwise that’s a big problem.
Say what you will about the price, but I think Grid Iron made a better Ghilie Suit. It's got problems and could be done better, but the Action Force Ghilie Suit is bad.
I had terrible luck with the gridiron one as the threads came off way to much and it’s not fun to pose with. Gives the figure a huge hunchback with it on.
I find the plastic quality to be way better then hasbro and to compare it to Japanese toy companies that can cost 1to 1/2 to double the cost of a action force hardly seems fair.
As to the scar weapon sizes. There are 2 versions of the scar the heavy and the light. Perhaps that's wat valaverse is going for there. But he also chged the designer he uses for his accessories so that might account for the size differences. A lot of the weapons that used to feel too big have been slightly scaled down in the new series. If that's the case so what? Hes improving his line. You cant say the same for hasbro and that gummy crap Ive been getting this past year. Also Ive purchased little armory line. The weapons are too small. Japan goes for a true 1/12 scale in their stuff. The US goes 6" which in fact is slightly bigger then 1/12 scale. Why I don't know but that is the case.
As to the winter figure. I love them. I wanted and posed them in the snow under a pine tree and they look fantastic. My only grip is that the all white back pack is a little bland. I fixed that with a black wash.
Lastly you are right about the buck. They are a small company so their production costs are much higher from china then hasbro's is. So when valaverse wants to repaint and ruse as much as they can I'm fine with it. But it is time for something new or a whole new series of accessories to frshen things up. Like medic and heavy weapons load outs.
But lets also be fair Hasbro reuses old bucks allot more then most people think. Far too many female classified figs have scarlets shity one elbow joint arms and then theres shitty shin guard boots that come on far too many male figs in the classified line. Also don't get me started on the number of snake eyes and batts repaints we've gotten. 😂😂
In future lines Id like to see a more stocky and maybe a little more busty female fig and the male line could use a bugger male and thinner male buck. As to their durability Ive only worried about that when putting other lines heads on valverses figs. Ive never broken anything when taking on and off valaverse parts. and I can hardly hold valverse responsible for hasbro parts not fitting properly on valverse parts. I can hold Hasbro responsible for how often theve changed the ball joints for heads or the inconsistency of their hands. And don't get me started on how variable the bloody foot peg holes can vary on classified toys never mind their 6 inch line. take for instance the snow shows on snow job and the snow serpent. Other the color they look EXACTLY the same. I cant swap the shoes between the different figures. The pegs on the snow shoes ARE NOT THE SAME SIZE!😂😂😂😂😂😂
To be fair you can buy a Japanese import toy at a target or Walmart for $35 which is around the same as a vala, hasbro, or neca fig. And let’s be honest, technically they’re ALL imports. Not a one of them is made here. Also, Idk why everyone is comparing vala to hasbro when the point of this video was comparing vala to past valas. Only brought out 2 joes to demonstrate plastic quality, that’s it. Company sizes, budgets, past releases from other companies are completely irrelevant to the point of this video folks.
Wow this is basically a hit piece on Action Force figures, trying to get his durometer and other trade info so hasbro can improve their gummy figures. What do you get some extra free Helix figures for your trouble😂 ? I have had my $5 Ollie's Dusty snd Zarana lose their arms pretty often at the mid bicep bend. I have bought both lines since the end of 2022 and I haven't broke a valaverse figure but I have gotten joes with stress marks on the hips and had to heat and use silicone oil on my joes pretty often because I like and take care of my figures regardless of the maker. I also heat my Mcfarlane figs if they feel tight to loosen them. If you have Asian market figures with their delicate joints and don't work them they will break. If you were trying to be fair you'd dig out the joes and show their issues. You just call valaverse garbage repeatedly with your mincy tone and are obviously a hit piece tool. Btw you heat the figures and work the joints to unstick any paint on the joints and smooth the new joint friction, they won't bind back up then when they cool. I've never heard of you before and you coming out of nowhere with this and the durometer questions is laughable. I'm nobody and don't give a shit about your opinion but you should be intellectually honest at least. 😂😂
For someone who doesn’t give a shit you sure did write a mighty lengthy opinion about it. If hasbro wants to know his duro then they can just ask their manufacturing manager. Both companies use the same crappy factory. Sorry if these facts bother you.
I had several Valaverse figures and had to heat them up everytime before posing, even many months later, that Artic guy looks horrendous
Funny I don’t see them on your channel. I can probably say you never had them.
@@rokkieteller5421 look again, i used one to make a custom Firefly, The figures are trash, kept the boots and hands
@@rokkieteller5421 look again, i used one to make a custom Firefly
@@joescustoms8321 that’s only just one. You said several so how can you claim you heated several when I only see one.
@@joescustoms8321 that is only one figure when you said several. How can you say all of them are like that when you only had one.
There are two different SCARs drink some water
I didn't buy the arctic line. The whites on those looks cheap they don't even match with snow job, snow serpent, and the BATS. The ghillies are bad too. I hope some company besides Valaverse and Grid Iron makes a good ghillie suit.
We definitely need more options for ghillie suits that’s for sure.
Yeah, I sold all of my Action Force figures. Sticking with GI Joe Classified.
Hasbro sucks they could do so much better if they cared at least Bobby's is trying
True statement
@@shadowtoysphotography💯❤️
Valaverse is dope. I think Bobby is doing everything better than Hasbro right now. Not sure what you're bitching about honestly.
Who’s comparing him to hasbro? Try actually watching the video before commenting.
Ass cods
They look cool but 30$ I won’t even consider it. It’s not marvel there’s not a license IP tied to them… make them cheaper
You’re absolutely correct. One figure direct from valaverse website is almost 40 shipped. They are definitely not worth that much. Pricing will be addressed more thoroughly in the next video.
I don't think that's a fair criticism. These aren't from a multibillion dollar corporation, they're from an independent creator with a small team. Those licensed figure can keep prices down to due the large amount of stuff they can sell to make up some of that lost cost. A smaller manufacturer can't do that. If they were heaper, they'd literally be burning money and go out of business...
To be fair the only multibillion dollar toy corporation out there is hasbro. Everyone else is in the multimillions. Even smaller ones like 4horse, vala, and mezco ,for example, all managed to stay in business 10 plus years (minus Vala) without only relying on licensed IPs and without raising their prices as much. 3rd party companies don’t pay any fees, have tiny runs, their figures have clothed goods, and still grow and make money so your logic doesn’t really apply.
@@shadowtoysphotography kinda does apply when all of the companies you listed product's that are way more expensive lol
@@shadowtoysphotography I'm not a vala fan by any means, but wanting his stuff to be more priced like hasbro shows a bit of ignorance in my opinion.
Great video this figures are not good, a lot reuses in all the line ,the plastic is bad.
Boy the amount of hasbro fan boys in this comment section is crazy lol
You really spent 4 minutes on the size of that gun...FFS 🤦🏽♂️ Who the hell cares.
I have the same figures you're showing here minus the complaints. Yes, the plastic is tough to move but I either heat them or add shock oil and then go about my business. But I do that for all lines.
You probably should stop collecting the line because it seems like you don't enjoy it at all.
There are some who actually care about the quality of the products they’re buying and there are some that don’t. Seems you’re the latter.
Don’t want to but probably will stop collecting the line if their quality doesn’t improve and it’s a damn shame.
@@shadowtoysphotography oh good so your like many others who will leave Hasbro product’s behind that’s good to know.
Their marvel stuff more than likely however will still be collecting their Star Wars and joe lines because they are the harder IPs to give up collecting.
The most unoriginal toyline there is.
I mean that’s the point. They’re army dudes
Sound like a hating ass
B-b-b-bullshit!
Reuse, Repaint, Reissue same shit from series one to series four. Trash knock off line. Buy at your own risk.
Hello there again! Been a while since I’ve seen you, still at it to your bias hatred against the company I see. I see you’re no longer using the same trash talk as you used in the past. Is it cause your favorite person finally admitted that Valaverse was better. I know they did since you followed it and this line is still as successful as before.
It’s actually a pretty awesome line, you should give it a try before hating.
Isn’t that literally what hasbro does 😂
Uneducated ignorant review filled with untrue bias. I’ve never heated a figure up, unless I was swapping parts, never had a neck peg break after many head swaps. The green on the polar guys is a choice made on real world militaries. And how do you even compare these two Joes that loose floppy and broken out of the box. “Mommy, I need a blow dryer” toughen up kid, hahaha.
Lets hear it haters, fight me.
Vala literally sent letters with the first series saying they needed to be heated...
@@GottaDangleThatCarrot And? Mythic Legions still come with that notice. Neca were practically made of saw dust. Why you still crying about series one? I never heated up a single series one, was it smart, probably not, but I also didn’t pull them out of the ice box.
Valaverse shill @@curseoffenrir
@@piratewizarddragon Hasbro shill
@@piratewizarddragonyup disagreeing or standing up for a toy line you like sure makes you a shill.🙄
Clueless. Opinions are what they are. Even dumb ones.