That is a fine sounding OEM exhaust! I'd love to have one of these..although as others have said about the rust, I think I'd be lucky just seeing one in the flesh.
My sister drove one of these exact cars in white in the mid 90's.. it was a great car and felt really fast compared to all other 4cyl cars of the day..
This is my car!! I own this car and mine is red, too. I love this car, the handling is amazing. You can throw anything at it, snow, slush, gravel, and just sticks to the ground. Snow, what snow? It's a got a great sound for a four cylinder engine, too. Wonderful little cars.
@Scionxd Rally SO WHAT??? this is a 1988, this car is old as hell you stupid ass. !! go compare your scion to another car in 2033 and see the difference.
@@themaskedeconomist8404 Oh for sure, the performance of some of these cars were amazing back then and the gsx is still competitive performance wise today.
We sure have! The two best Toyotas of the 80s have to be this and the MR2 Supercharged. I guess I'd throw in the legendary AE86 as well. And maybe the MkIII Supra. Man, Toyota was killing it in the 80s. Thanks for the awesome upload! I owned an '87 Celica GT-S. Not quite an All-Trac, but same engine minus the turbo, and more importantly it weighs 500 lbs less.
Agreed... I'd love to see the GT-S review.... The 87 GTS is one of the best Japanese cars I've ever driven. I remember reading a review against the Supra Turbo where the cars were less than half a second difference to 60, and the GTS nearly caught it in the 1/4.
voodoowhammy People laugh at 135HP now (more like 160 if you take out the catalytic), but man my 87 was a blast. You HAVE to live between 5000-7000rpm in these things, but they respond to it. I obliterated those V6 Camaros and Firebirds all over the place. Took an awesome windy road behind an RX7 and couldn't pass his ass though, lol.
PantherP74 You and me both! That's why i have collected some of the good stuff haha! I've got an 87 mr2, 85 supra, 85 cressida, 87 cressida, and an 86 jdm Levin ae86. Its the missing part of Jay Leno's garage. No sleeping for me!
+hachibill I'm with you. I've had nearly every generation of Celica (just not that last travesty) - about half of them Turbo but I have to say 1994-99 are the best looking and performing ones. My current '94 WRC is OUTSTANDING. She's been substantially upgraded through the years I've owned her but she's perfect as stock with a boost controller
The Unknown Toyota stands for Reliability and dependable to get you from point a and point b if you want something like a performance car go buy a Chrysler product like a hellcat that will break as soon as you touch it.
A family friend had this car when it came out. He used to tell me stories about driving it in snow storms up here in Canada. He said he could drive it with ease in even treacherous conditions by just using the tip of his index finger on the steering wheel. Anyways, I always remembered his stories about this particular Celica and they can be summed up in two words: Legendary Handling.
I've owned two Audi Quattros. A '97 A6 and a '01 A4 Turbo. My brother owned a '86 Celica that he brought brand new. One advantage the Celica has over the Audi is it's damn near bulletproof. Audis are great cars, but once they go bad, they go bad hard. My brother's Celica lasted 14 years, crossed the Atlantic twice, drove all over western Europe, across the US several times and racked over 200,000 miles before it finally showed it's age. I'd say the Toyota has the advantage in that category.
My dad bought a white manual St 162 because he couldnt find a Gt4 at the time. However about a year later he found out that his white gt4's floor was rusting so he took most of the running gear out of it and put it into his 162 but kept it front wheel drive. From there he was able to find rally parts for it due to the car being used for rallying. He fitted a group A downpipe, manifold and charge cooler aswell as a bailey dump valve and he custom built a 3" straight pipe exhaust. He also custom made a short throw gearstick. He later fitted an italvolante flat bottom steering wheel that he bought off his friend after finding it in an MR2. Aswell as this he got brake discs and pads from an st185 which had a greater surface area. He also got a ct26 turbo from a supra and machined his celica turbo to the same size to allow more air to get in and get more power out. When he took it out to a long straight stretch of road the speedometer went past 160. Unfortunately it broke a spring and he put it into the shed intending to work on it again but my little brother became sick so he was unable to fix it. The car sat for 4 years from 2012-2016 when she came back out the turbo seals were done and she was off a cylinder. He fixed it and took it to get the mot done and even though she was in a bad state she could still go. She passed the mot but a week later a guy that my dad knew bought it. My dad told him to be careful not to rev it too much and to change the oil due to the car sitting for so long. However he did not take my dads advice and wound the boost on the turbo up way to high. (around 17 psi). My dad was always careful and kept it at about 12 psi. As a result one of the pistons was damaged and then he sold it to a guy who has big plans for the car as he now wants to restore it.
This car is a rare and special ! More special then the run of the mill AWD turbo cars that are the usual pick of the bunch. STI EVO... That exhaust sounds really good for a stock car and the tech loaded into it would cost a pretty penny today if Toyota remade it. Toyota made some badass cars more badass then other japan brands. Toyotas has had a hand in and made everything. Turbo AWD, Mid Engine, V8 trucks you name it. Love that about Toyota
My black All Trac was a high mileage, high maintenance, labor of love. A very solid chassis and it had a rough and tumble attitude. The most fun was driving home in the snow, accelerating like a rally racer, and passing people who were having difficulty, especially up hills. A modern version with 275-300 hp would be a total blast to drive.
I had an 89 GT liftback in college. I loved that car. It could take a V6 Camaro/Firebird, and hang with Mustang GTs. I always wanted an All-Trac. These cars got overlooked once the 210 hp Eclipse came out.
My first car... man how I wish I still had it.. I didn't think much of it then but I'd love to own another one... it had a sweet "digital dash". With a turbo "boost" gauge
Had one it was awesome! Best snowboarding vehicle ever! Used to 4wheel drift on the on and off ramps. Living in Canada snow alwayS comes for 4 months a year.
I had an 87 GTS notchback in high school in the early 2000s. That car was so much fun for a 17 year old’s first car. It got scrapped in about 2006, but I still have the gauge cluster and owners manual from it. For 140hp, it was quick. I managed to hit over 220kmh in it, speedo was almost buried! Of the over 120 cars I’ve owned in the last 20 years, this is still one I regret letting get away.
i own one and its one of the greatest treasures i have thought of selling it several times but couldnt do i love the sound the headlights and mostly the balance i can negotiate any curve speeding
When my father died, I had to drive over to the east coast of Florida to pick up his 1998 Dodge Stratus that he had on consignment at a small lot over there. When I went to pick it up I saw a 1991 Toyota Celica All-trac that just came in. Looked under the hood, saw a top mount and that distinctive 2.0 DOHC engine (Not one cam driving a slave cam as in the 5S-FE GT spec we got over here in the states) with that turbo sitting right in front...had 167,000 miles on it IIRC, I ALMOST asked the guy if he wanted to keep the Stratus and I'd take the Celica (Knowing he didn't know what he had) and I never did....Still regret it to this day....and the only time I've ever seen one in person.
I feel that this generation is overlooked, as it was almost the in-between year for styling and the first year for FWD standard, but i think it should get more recognition
I always loved the "Tokyo Xtreme Racer" series. To avoid paying fees to Toyota, the game company simply called it the ST185 and the later version the ST205. They called the series "Shutoko Battle" in Japan. Maybe this one was called the ST165... 5:10 there was a good reason to have a full sized spare. Some AWD systems can be completely destroyed in a few miles if one tire is different from the other 3. A few years later, the Ecplipse GSX came out and sold for much less than the Celica All-Trac. Unfortunately, it wasn't nearly as durable.
My mother had a 88 GT and a 91 GT-S. Those cars were very easy on the eyes back then. We would always catch people looking in the windows to check them out. These were the times before people would get upset and threatened over this...
Toyota and most of Japan Manufacturers made the coolest cars of all time during the 80s and 90s. 99% of American cars didn't even come close to the Japanese engineering back then. There is a reason that Japanese cars have the best reliability and resale value. I will probably never buy another American car ever again. My 1999 Supercharged Buick Regal GS is the last one I'll ever buy.
+David S Japanese car companies are still making the best cars in the world and 100% European car makers can not even come close to their built quality.
Considering there was no mention of any American made vehicles this comment is kind of irrelevant. Do you go to every video of a Japanese car and say the same thing? This comment would have been relevant in 1992, but modem Japanese cars have lost a lot of ground in reliability.
I used to own one. Went away to college, and didn't take care of it. Ended up selling it for way too cheap. Hope the new owner took care of it. I miss it. It spoiled me on turbocharged engines.
ALWAYS Wanted one of these...albeit the next gen after this one, but hey at this point I will take either one... Good luck finding either... Awesome Toyota's
On a co$t verses horsepower to mass basis, the Mustang, Camaro and Firebird had all the Toyota's measures. I'm a Toyota Guy, because my wife is a Toyota AWD Gurl. Where Toyota, Mitsubishi and Mazda and Subaru really failed was in being unable to reduce weight and complexity while improving performance per dollar. A 5 mpg average fuel economy loss, a 530 pound weight gain, and U$ 8 K cost increase to get what an SHO, XR4Ti or AWD Scorpio did stock was where the problem was. BMW's 325iX did AWD with just a 165 pound penalty, and eventually, the RAV4 ended up with the same basic ST185 and 205 parts, and it really needed a turbo engine and 5 speed auto to cope with the extra 600 pounds of SUV weight. And servicing and rust, the 3SGE engined cars, such a nightmare.
The Celica's interior is unique among Japanese sport coupes is unique....it's very tasteful...the use of cheap plastics and hideous fabrics have been rejected OMG...don't hold back what you really wanted to say John lmao!! These cars were awesome but so horribly expensive because of tariffs placed on Japanese cars. Then the manufacturers decided to open factories here and boom..cheaper cars and jobs for the US. And was that exhaust note sweet!
Always had a softspot for this car! Red is the right color for this one in everyway! Best looking performance car you could get for this sort of money!
FrightfulAccountant can get a 91 awd eagle talon tsi or eclipse gsx pretty cheap nowadays. closes thing to the celica all trac if you ask me. only thing is finding one that hasn't been abused to shit or modified.
I had an 88 Alltrac, bought used in like 94 I think. Thank the lord I bought a warranty for it, lost a turbo, spun a bearing (separately) and then had a cracked head. At the cracked head they decided it was cheaper to pay me for the car instead of continuing to fix it lol.
My dad loved this car so much; he considered trading his 1979 Mercury Cougar for this car. The problem was it was a stick shift, and my mom could not drive a stick shift, so therefore, he ended up not trading.
All-trac, Alltrack, a good package whether it’s a Celica or Golf. I have the latter, I wouldn’t mind the Celica. That 15.9 1/4 mile is cooking for 1988 standards, it wouldn’t be hard to bring that time down with some mods. My golf should be right in the 14.0 range with its tune.
Loved this car back in the 80's. I wish Toyota had made the exterior styling more aggressive. It was too plain looking for my friends and I. We preferred the aggressive styling of the Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R.
wow 4 speakers and 7.9 to 60. They were very expensive back in the day. I used to always want a gts. Hell at the time I was a teenager and would have taken an st lol.
I had one of these broke my heart to part with it the main wiring harness burned up the car was stellar i put my heart and soul into it was up graded traded it in because no wiring assembys available was same color
+Tampa0123456789 If you think it's bad for us, wait until we're old and the (then) newer generation only has all electric or hybirds to choose from. I don't dislike the future tech (nor the always maximum torque all the time of performance electric cars) but I don't like when moving forward means fewer options. Also, heh, I wonder if the boomers that were young adults in the 80s miss 50-60s era cars.
Are you kidding me??? There have never been so many amazing vehicles to choose from as there are now!! The 70's, 80's and early 90's gave us mostly under-powered, under-engineered cars/trucks that couldn't stop or go around corners to save it's life! Be thankful that you can buy a minivan today that has double the horsepower, and can out handle/brake of most sportscars from the 80's. I got my driver's license in the 80's and I remember being rather angry that the auto manufacturers seemed to be sitting on their hands and feeding us subpar vehicles year after year. I've owned two Alltrac's, both '88 models, and yes they were an exceptional car for their time, but almost any current economy car would run circles around in now. You used to hear car enthusiasts talk about how the 60's was the golden age of the muscle car, but the 60's ain't got nothing's on 2017... 300 hp minivans and 700+ hp muscle/sportscars! Hello!!!
David G: EPA/DOT does not require smog pumps,EGR valves running all the time once the coolant temp got to a certain degree like the 1970s/1980s cars did and neither do today's vehicles have (very heavy) hazard/damage-free 5-7mph safety bumpers that was required in the 1970s/1980s. A teenager of the 1980s, I was privileged to regulary drive: the Ferrari 308,Saab 9000/900,BMW 320i,325,528e, 733s,XJs,El Caminos, Datsun/Nissan Zs, Peugeot 505s(gas and diesel),Benz 240Ds,300TDs/300SDs,Audi 5000s,Camaros,Mark II Supras, New (grey market) Lorinser 500SEC,Bronco,etc. and all the other common variety vehicles that were New/late-model then.For extra cash, I detailed the neighbors cars on weekends and when school was out during the Summer. Those car may have been slower than today's econo-shitboxes...but they were way funner to drive and had character (lacking in today's cars).With Germany still desperately recovering from WW2...Base/Mid-level German cars could be had at quite a discount on the West Coast. My rides in high-school were the Sprint,Peugeot Turbo Diesel, Conquest TSI and multiple Honda Scooters. The Sprint (until I begged for the TSI) was my punishment for taking a corner too fast in the Peugeot around a corner/slamming into a curb..completely biffed the Strut-Tower and shredded the floor to bits. As bad as that New Sprint was (slow wise,especially when the AC compressor kicked-on), it served a great purpose in me learning to fling a car around a corner without losing control and totaling another car. Driving that car was like driving a big go-kart. A 1,500 lbs econo-shitbox (Suzuki Cultus/Chevy Sprint) that you can fling around corners,and that got 45-60 mpg ....no manufacture for the North American market offers anything close Today.....even if one were to add in all that "adjusted for inflation bullshit". A Prius can't even match that little car for MPG. If my memory serves me right,being the deluxe version, my dad paid like $7,500 out the door with tax.....the TSI,bought with a newspaper coupon only cost $12,500 before trade-in was deducted.....affordable even then.
@@davidg4026 300 hp minivans? since when is a minivan exciting? Since never. Yes the power is up but the thrill and excitment of driving is gone. Unless you spend $80k but even then the cars are so heavy and bulky. They are only a few gems, ie. toyota /Subaru Brz, miata, and other bulbus plastic cars that look the same.
The Celica just before it went into a full rally car period with the 5th generation All-Trac / GT-Four (1990-1993). This one is no slouch. And it is be the best looking one with the greenhouse hatch,
Damn Toyota sucks now, they along with Honda have made nothing but turds in the last 10 to 15 years. Spice up their line again with cars younger buyers want, that way when they grow up, they will want to keep Toyota/Honda for their 4 door family cars. These two brands only live on their quality name they built up in the 80's and 90's now, not on their looks. Bring back the Celica!!!
Toyota sucks? The Camry V6 will do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds. I wouldn't say that sucks. They don't have an exotic rival such as the old Supra turbo, but even if they did it would be priced well outside the range for a buyer even with a decent income. Just look at the new NSX as an example - everyone wanted Honda to release it and now that they are going to, nobody aside from millionaires can even afford it. At least the average Joe can afford a V6 Accord or Camry.
oldtwins so you think a bunch of 16 and 18 year old kids wana rock a camry?? Really??? I want to see them bring out a celica again, something fun, sporty, yet priced right in the sweet spot of 20k range.
Acc0rd79 A brand new Camry v6 costs 33k SMH you can buy a GTI fully loaded with that money. None of the Asian makes produce anything with balls beside the bastard car that is the BRZ/FRS.
Acc0rd79 The base model Celica was 30k in 1990 in my country, not many young people can afford that either(Using an inflation calculator that's 55k now). And if you want the real one (The GT-Four or AllTrac) it was 45k in 1990.. Now that's worth over 80k! It's really hard to make sports cars cheap, thats why they are barely made anymore. This is why young people own cheap little cars like old pulsars. I personally have a v6 5 speed camry myself, and yes it is insanely boring. However a lot of other young drivers race me and loose badly, they greatly underestimate it due to the fact that it's a camry. It is actually the fastest car you can buy where I live without spending over 5k. Not bad
even by 88, the audi only won and held up at the track, every customer who purchased a audi at the dealer in the mid to late 80s had nothing but reliabilty breakdown and red lite warnings on the dash. the audi still cost more in 88, but the celica all models of the 80s had none of these problems for less. something even in 88 this show host knew, to bad he didnt mention it.
Wow - you really get what you pay for. I knew early on in the video that this car wasn't cheap, but $23,703 in 1988 ?? In today's dollars that would be around 60 grand. You would have to be filthy rich to drive this bad boy.
Think Toyota has always just built Avalons, Camrys, & Corollas?!!!!! NAY NAY!!!!!! There was a time, in the 80's & '90's, when they built cars that kicked some SERIOUS ASS, & this 1988 Celica All-Trac is surely a fine representation of that!!!!!
I fit just fine and I’m 6’4”. Just lean the seat back a notch. That mileage is nonsense tho. I’ve had several of these engines from highly modified (8mpg) to stock (~15mpg).
A good friend of mine and I both have ST165s. I'm 5'10" and they're 6'6". They manage to fit, though nobody's fitting behind them. I find my seating position comfortable, yet a bit snug; I'm a little more portly these days, haha! For fuel mileage I'm turning 15-17mpg city and about 24-25mpg highway, though that's on a mostly stock, low-mileage(46K) Gen 1. The range isn't that great, but it is what it is. Wouldn't give this car up for the world. :)
The camera man is so confident with Celica's braking prowess that he positioned himself at the line where the Celica is.
Miss my black 88. Had it for 8 years. Amazing in the rain and snow. Coolest car I’ll ever own.
That is a fine sounding OEM exhaust! I'd love to have one of these..although as others have said about the rust, I think I'd be lucky just seeing one in the flesh.
It really is a fine sounding exhaust, esp considering the turbo.
My sister drove one of these exact cars in white in the mid 90's.. it was a great car and felt really fast compared to all other 4cyl cars of the day..
This is my car!! I own this car and mine is red, too. I love this car, the handling is amazing. You can throw anything at it, snow, slush, gravel, and just sticks to the ground. Snow, what snow? It's a got a great sound for a four cylinder engine, too. Wonderful little cars.
190hp from a 2.0T engine is not shabby today.
That must have been very power dense in late 1980s.
@Scionxd Rally SO WHAT??? this is a 1988, this car is old as hell you stupid ass. !! go compare your scion to another car in 2033 and see the difference.
In the 80s hardly any thing would have been able to catch it except mabye a sierra cossie.
Then in 1989 the 6-bolt 4G63T debuted with 195hp stock. Cool time for imports (although DSMs aren't technically imports)
The 1991-1993 model has 235hp and 225 trq and does 0-100kmh/60mph in mid to early 5s range from stock. That’s the golden boy horsie
@@themaskedeconomist8404 Oh for sure, the performance of some of these cars were amazing back then and the gsx is still competitive performance wise today.
We sure have! The two best Toyotas of the 80s have to be this and the MR2 Supercharged. I guess I'd throw in the legendary AE86 as well. And maybe the MkIII Supra. Man, Toyota was killing it in the 80s. Thanks for the awesome upload! I owned an '87 Celica GT-S. Not quite an All-Trac, but same engine minus the turbo, and more importantly it weighs 500 lbs less.
They were smashing it in Japan in the 80's for sure. 90's were pretty awesome too! Lots of 1jz and 2jz powered weapons!
Not to mention their pickups were awesome back in the late 80s.
Yeah Toyota was killing it.
Agreed... I'd love to see the GT-S review.... The 87 GTS is one of the best Japanese cars I've ever driven. I remember reading a review against the Supra Turbo where the cars were less than half a second difference to 60, and the GTS nearly caught it in the 1/4.
voodoowhammy People laugh at 135HP now (more like 160 if you take out the catalytic), but man my 87 was a blast. You HAVE to live between 5000-7000rpm in these things, but they respond to it. I obliterated those V6 Camaros and Firebirds all over the place. Took an awesome windy road behind an RX7 and couldn't pass his ass though, lol.
I'd go all the way and get a Supra.
I miss when Toyota made things that didn't make you fall asleep.
PantherP74 You and me both! That's why i have collected some of the good stuff haha! I've got an 87 mr2, 85 supra, 85 cressida, 87 cressida, and an 86 jdm Levin ae86. Its the missing part of Jay Leno's garage. No sleeping for me!
William Phelps Please start making videos of your cars! :)
+William Phelps ive had 30+ cars and most have been 80's toyota's... Best cars ever produced.
+PantherP74 Toyota is doing fine. It is the car reviewers and bad mouthing Europeans give you that negative image.
+hachibill I'm with you. I've had nearly every generation of Celica (just not that last travesty) - about half of them Turbo but I have to say 1994-99 are the best looking and performing ones. My current '94 WRC is OUTSTANDING. She's been substantially upgraded through the years I've owned her but she's perfect as stock with a boost controller
Thank you motorweek the official 5th gen Celica group highly appreciates this post.
My all time favorite celica
Yeah. Wow not cheap $23k 1988.
ahhhhh the days when toyota made interesting cars, bring those days back!!
Well, the GT86 is pretty interresting. And they're looking in to makeing a baby 86, an even cheaper car.
ahhh no they had a sports car for every budget!!
The Unknown Toyota stands for Reliability and dependable to get you from point a and point b if you want something like a performance car go buy a Chrysler product like a hellcat that will break as soon as you touch it.
There's the Camry that only needs a slightly better trans, the 86 is solid outside of needing more horsepower, then there's the upcoming supra.
charger master So a Supra, Celica, and all other Toyota performance cars are unreliable? 🙄
My dad bought this car brand new... I remember driving it home with him... That car would fly!
A family friend had this car when it came out. He used to tell me stories about driving it in snow storms up here in Canada. He said he could drive it with ease in even treacherous conditions by just using the tip of his index finger on the steering wheel. Anyways, I always remembered his stories about this particular Celica and they can be summed up in two words: Legendary Handling.
Rare and very hard to find today in the US. People just weren't too into AWD coupes in the late 80s. And they're not into coupes at ALL now.
Because it was expensive and didn't have that great of performance and actually wasn't that reliable.
Boy Motorweek was a top notch show, and still is!
I've owned two Audi Quattros. A '97 A6 and a '01 A4 Turbo. My brother owned a '86 Celica that he brought brand new. One advantage the Celica has over the Audi is it's damn near bulletproof. Audis are great cars, but once they go bad, they go bad hard. My brother's Celica lasted 14 years, crossed the Atlantic twice, drove all over western Europe, across the US several times and racked over 200,000 miles before it finally showed it's age. I'd say the Toyota has the advantage in that category.
My dad bought a white manual St 162 because he couldnt find a Gt4 at the time. However about a year later he found out that his white gt4's floor was rusting so he took most of the running gear out of it and put it into his 162 but kept it front wheel drive. From there he was able to find rally parts for it due to the car being used for rallying. He fitted a group A downpipe, manifold and charge cooler aswell as a bailey dump valve and he custom built a 3" straight pipe exhaust. He also custom made a short throw gearstick. He later fitted an italvolante flat bottom steering wheel that he bought off his friend after finding it in an MR2. Aswell as this he got brake discs and pads from an st185 which had a greater surface area. He also got a ct26 turbo from a supra and machined his celica turbo to the same size to allow more air to get in and get more power out. When he took it out to a long straight stretch of road the speedometer went past 160. Unfortunately it broke a spring and he put it into the shed intending to work on it again but my little brother became sick so he was unable to fix it. The car sat for 4 years from 2012-2016 when she came back out the turbo seals were done and she was off a cylinder. He fixed it and took it to get the mot done and even though she was in a bad state she could still go. She passed the mot but a week later a guy that my dad knew bought it. My dad told him to be careful not to rev it too much and to change the oil due to the car sitting for so long. However he did not take my dads advice and wound the boost on the turbo up way to high. (around 17 psi). My dad was always careful and kept it at about 12 psi. As a result one of the pistons was damaged and then he sold it to a guy who has big plans for the car as he now wants to restore it.
This car is a rare and special ! More special then the run of the mill AWD turbo cars that are the usual pick of the bunch. STI EVO... That exhaust sounds really good for a stock car and the tech loaded into it would cost a pretty penny today if Toyota remade it.
Toyota made some badass cars more badass then other japan brands. Toyotas has had a hand in and made everything. Turbo AWD, Mid Engine, V8 trucks you name it. Love that about Toyota
why are you on every toyota video.
Toyota4Life and none of the Subaru head gasket problems with boxer motor
Too bad they stopped and only make boring cars now.
I had one of these! I miss it so much.
My black All Trac was a high mileage, high maintenance, labor of love. A very solid chassis and it had a rough and tumble attitude. The most fun was driving home in the snow, accelerating like a rally racer, and passing people who were having difficulty, especially up hills. A modern version with 275-300 hp would be a total blast to drive.
My '94 has a little more than that and it is seriously quick and totally confidant. Love that car like a child
I had an 89 GT liftback in college. I loved that car. It could take a V6 Camaro/Firebird, and hang with Mustang GTs. I always wanted an All-Trac. These cars got overlooked once the 210 hp Eclipse came out.
The Toyota Celica, Honda Prelude, and Acura Integra are my favorite coupes.
My first car... man how I wish I still had it.. I didn't think much of it then but I'd love to own another one... it had a sweet "digital dash". With a turbo "boost" gauge
i bought one around 2000. That 88 all-trac with aggressive snow tires was a beast in winter.
Had one it was awesome! Best snowboarding vehicle ever! Used to 4wheel drift on the on and off ramps. Living in Canada snow alwayS comes for 4 months a year.
My dad bought the fwd version when it just came out. That radio and digital clock brings back a lot of memories.
I had one of these and later a 91 Celica All-Trac. Fun little cars
I had an 87 GTS notchback in high school in the early 2000s. That car was so much fun for a 17 year old’s first car. It got scrapped in about 2006, but I still have the gauge cluster and owners manual from it. For 140hp, it was quick. I managed to hit over 220kmh in it, speedo was almost buried! Of the over 120 cars I’ve owned in the last 20 years, this is still one I regret letting get away.
Boy that was a great little car I remember it well! And still looks good today.
i own one and its one of the greatest treasures i have thought of selling it several times but couldnt do i love the sound the headlights and mostly the balance i can negotiate any curve speeding
Kiven Chikukwa Don't sell it man!!! these cars are just going to get more expensive as you age!!!!!!
When my father died, I had to drive over to the east coast of Florida to pick up his 1998 Dodge Stratus that he had on consignment at a small lot over there. When I went to pick it up I saw a 1991 Toyota Celica All-trac that just came in. Looked under the hood, saw a top mount and that distinctive 2.0 DOHC engine (Not one cam driving a slave cam as in the 5S-FE GT spec we got over here in the states) with that turbo sitting right in front...had 167,000 miles on it IIRC, I ALMOST asked the guy if he wanted to keep the Stratus and I'd take the Celica (Knowing he didn't know what he had) and I never did....Still regret it to this day....and the only time I've ever seen one in person.
1 of the greatest cars of the 80's!!!
I feel that this generation is overlooked, as it was almost the in-between year for styling and the first year for FWD standard, but i think it should get more recognition
I always loved the "Tokyo Xtreme Racer" series. To avoid paying fees to Toyota, the game company simply called it the ST185 and the later version the ST205. They called the series "Shutoko Battle" in Japan. Maybe this one was called the ST165...
5:10 there was a good reason to have a full sized spare. Some AWD systems can be completely destroyed in a few miles if one tire is different from the other 3.
A few years later, the Ecplipse GSX came out and sold for much less than the Celica All-Trac. Unfortunately, it wasn't nearly as durable.
My ‘92 Celica GT Fwd funny enough had a full-size spare as well
Omg i hate you guys... Ive been watching you since i was a kid in the 80's.... Now i cant stop watching these retro reviews... So awesome!!
I owned one of these but over here in Australia they were called the GT-4, and I miss it dearly, I loved that old car.
My mother had a 88 GT and a 91 GT-S. Those cars were very easy on the eyes back then. We would always catch people looking in the windows to check them out. These were the times before people would get upset and threatened over this...
The lady checking stopping distances is wearing leg warmers. So authentic ‘80s.
Toyota and most of Japan Manufacturers made the coolest cars of all time during the 80s and 90s. 99% of American cars didn't even come close to the Japanese engineering back then. There is a reason that Japanese cars have the best reliability and resale value. I will probably never buy another American car ever again. My 1999 Supercharged Buick Regal GS is the last one I'll ever buy.
+David S Japanese car companies are still making the best cars in the world and 100% European car makers can not even come close to their built quality.
Fussinated I totally agree. American cars are also garbage.
David S American cars are still better than the European out factory junk cars.
@@Fussinated Even American cars are better than European ones.
Considering there was no mention of any American made vehicles this comment is kind of irrelevant. Do you go to every video of a Japanese car and say the same thing?
This comment would have been relevant in 1992, but modem Japanese cars have lost a lot of ground in reliability.
Thanks for all your retro reviews, MotorWeek! If you have a audi 100-s4 review, pls upload it!!! :) :)
I used to own one. Went away to college, and didn't take care of it. Ended up selling it for way too cheap. Hope the new owner took care of it. I miss it. It spoiled me on turbocharged engines.
ALWAYS Wanted one of these...albeit the next gen after this one, but hey at this point I will take either one... Good luck finding either... Awesome Toyota's
Still want one😍
Looks like an amazing car, I don't think I've ever seen one in real life
the interior of this car was ahead of it's time
Had a 165 for a number of years, a great B road car. So much beefier than the 323 GTX it replaced.
Pleaaseeee build this car again, Toyota! EXACTLY 💯 this one, from top to bottom, including the ENGINE!!😍😍😍
Put this back on the market!!🙏🙏🙏
These are rare. They also made, corolla, Camry, previa, Tercel awd
Jon Smith tercel 4wd you mean
Camry and Corolla were never AWD.
On a co$t verses horsepower to mass basis, the Mustang, Camaro and Firebird had all the Toyota's measures. I'm a Toyota Guy, because my wife is a Toyota AWD Gurl. Where Toyota, Mitsubishi and Mazda and Subaru really failed was in being unable to reduce weight and complexity while improving performance per dollar. A 5 mpg average fuel economy loss, a 530 pound weight gain, and U$ 8 K cost increase to get what an SHO, XR4Ti or AWD Scorpio did stock was where the problem was. BMW's 325iX did AWD with just a 165 pound penalty, and eventually, the RAV4 ended up with the same basic ST185 and 205 parts, and it really needed a turbo engine and 5 speed auto to cope with the extra 600 pounds of SUV weight. And servicing and rust, the 3SGE engined cars, such a nightmare.
The Celica's interior is unique among Japanese sport coupes is unique....it's very tasteful...the use of cheap plastics and hideous fabrics have been rejected OMG...don't hold back what you really wanted to say John lmao!! These cars were awesome but so horribly expensive because of tariffs placed on Japanese cars. Then the manufacturers decided to open factories here and boom..cheaper cars and jobs for the US. And was that exhaust note sweet!
I loved this in gran tursimo4
1:10 That's "integral fog lamps"? Looks like they were glued on :)
Basic maintenance and a Toyota was bulletproof...... back when drivers wanted and knew how to drive a manual transmission !!!
I like the next gen All-Trac more but this is still fun.
Always had a softspot for this car! Red is the right color for this one in everyway! Best looking performance car you could get for this sort of money!
FrightfulAccountant can get a 91 awd eagle talon tsi or eclipse gsx pretty cheap nowadays. closes thing to the celica all trac if you ask me. only thing is finding one that hasn't been abused to shit or modified.
I had an 88 Alltrac, bought used in like 94 I think. Thank the lord I bought a warranty for it, lost a turbo, spun a bearing (separately) and then had a cracked head. At the cracked head they decided it was cheaper to pay me for the car instead of continuing to fix it lol.
My dad loved this car so much; he considered trading his 1979 Mercury Cougar for this car. The problem was it was a stick shift, and my mom could not drive a stick shift, so therefore, he ended up not trading.
Had a little boxer like rumble to it.
Gorgeous car. Love those fog lamps.
I've never seen one of these
and damn it sounds good!
It sounds amazing for stock!!!!!
All-trac, Alltrack, a good package whether it’s a Celica or Golf. I have the latter, I wouldn’t mind the Celica. That 15.9 1/4 mile is cooking for 1988 standards, it wouldn’t be hard to bring that time down with some mods. My golf should be right in the 14.0 range with its tune.
Loved this car back in the 80's. I wish Toyota had made the exterior styling more aggressive. It was too plain looking for my friends and I. We preferred the aggressive styling of the Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R.
wow 4 speakers and 7.9 to 60. They were very expensive back in the day. I used to always want a gts. Hell at the time I was a teenager and would have taken an st lol.
I am lucky enough to own one st165 all track. almost 30 y.o. car but still a blast to drive
More power than a modern VW Tiguan! That is amazing!
so happy that I just got one
I want one!
I had one of these broke my heart to part with it the main wiring harness burned up the car was stellar i put my heart and soul into it was up graded traded it in because no wiring assembys available was same color
For something with 190hp, 0-60 in 7.9 seems a bit slow. I wonder how much the AWD system slowed it down.
Beautiful car! 😍
I drive one :)
Wonderful car! Always loved It.
Still have mine. She so so needs some work but I still got her.
The 1991-1993 model has 235hp and 225 trq and does 0-100kmh/60mph in mid to early 5s range from stock. That’s the golden boy horsie
Man.....I _really_ want this car.
I'll sell you one
Yes, bring does days back...
Dam babyboomers. Us younger crowd don't have anything sweet to drive anymore. Seems to be getting worst. Boring crossovers and couches on wheels.
+Tampa0123456789 If you think it's bad for us, wait until we're old and the (then) newer generation only has all electric or hybirds to choose from. I don't dislike the future tech (nor the always maximum torque all the time of performance electric cars) but I don't like when moving forward means fewer options.
Also, heh, I wonder if the boomers that were young adults in the 80s miss 50-60s era cars.
Are you kidding me??? There have never been so many amazing vehicles to choose from as there are now!! The 70's, 80's and early 90's gave us mostly under-powered, under-engineered cars/trucks that couldn't stop or go around corners to save it's life!
Be thankful that you can buy a minivan today that has double the horsepower, and can out handle/brake of most sportscars from the 80's. I got my driver's license in the 80's and I remember being rather angry that the auto manufacturers seemed to be sitting on their hands and feeding us subpar vehicles year after year. I've owned two Alltrac's, both '88 models, and yes they were an exceptional car for their time, but almost any current economy car would run circles around in now.
You used to hear car enthusiasts talk about how the 60's was the golden age of the muscle car, but the 60's ain't got nothing's on 2017... 300 hp minivans and 700+ hp muscle/sportscars! Hello!!!
David G:
EPA/DOT does not require smog pumps,EGR valves running all the time once the coolant temp got to a certain degree like the 1970s/1980s cars did and neither do today's vehicles have (very heavy) hazard/damage-free 5-7mph safety bumpers that was required in the 1970s/1980s.
A teenager of the 1980s, I was privileged to regulary drive: the Ferrari 308,Saab 9000/900,BMW 320i,325,528e, 733s,XJs,El Caminos, Datsun/Nissan Zs, Peugeot 505s(gas and diesel),Benz 240Ds,300TDs/300SDs,Audi 5000s,Camaros,Mark II Supras, New (grey market) Lorinser 500SEC,Bronco,etc. and all the other common variety vehicles that were New/late-model then.For extra cash, I detailed the neighbors cars on weekends and when school was out during the Summer.
Those car may have been slower than today's econo-shitboxes...but they were way funner to drive and had character (lacking in today's cars).With Germany still desperately recovering from WW2...Base/Mid-level German cars could be had at quite a discount on the West Coast.
My rides in high-school were the Sprint,Peugeot Turbo Diesel, Conquest TSI and multiple Honda Scooters. The Sprint (until I begged for the TSI) was my punishment for taking a corner too fast in the Peugeot around a corner/slamming into a curb..completely biffed the Strut-Tower and shredded the floor to bits.
As bad as that New Sprint was (slow wise,especially when the AC compressor kicked-on), it served a great purpose in me learning to fling a car around a corner without losing control and totaling another car. Driving that car was like driving a big go-kart. A 1,500 lbs econo-shitbox (Suzuki Cultus/Chevy Sprint) that you can fling around corners,and that got 45-60 mpg ....no manufacture for the North American market offers anything close Today.....even if one were to add in all that "adjusted for inflation bullshit". A Prius can't even match that little car for MPG. If my memory serves me right,being the deluxe version, my dad paid like $7,500 out the door with tax.....the TSI,bought with a newspaper coupon only cost $12,500 before trade-in was deducted.....affordable even then.
@@blues03 all cars will be self-driving by 2025
@@davidg4026 300 hp minivans? since when is a minivan exciting? Since never. Yes the power is up but the thrill and excitment of driving is gone. Unless you spend $80k but even then the cars are so heavy and bulky.
They are only a few gems, ie. toyota /Subaru Brz, miata, and other bulbus plastic cars that look the same.
Yep... got one of those in my GT6 garage as we speak. However, I'll be putting one of these in my real garage in a little over two weeks. :D
This might be the only car offered in front wheel drive, rear wheel drive and all wheel drive through different generations of the model.
i own two on PS3 and a JDM GT in real life, what a great car! it's more than just a car for me though...
Where's the as Standard wrc Replica All-Trac Functional turbo intake Twin Hood Scoop's ?
Rarecat these All-tracs were water Inter cooled. The ‘90s version were the ones with the air cooled hood scoop.
The Celica just before it went into a full rally car period with the 5th generation All-Trac / GT-Four (1990-1993). This one is no slouch. And it is be the best looking one with the greenhouse hatch,
+Brendan A. MacWade Fair sure the ST165 was also a WRC car too?
ST-205 was where they really got it all right. My WRC is perfect
Good luck finding one of these on the east coast in good nick....
I know, right! They're all disintegrated by now.
aquateen77723
* sigh *
At least we have the Supras...more or less.
Did they have the extra weight they test drove????
Bc without that weight would do better
Damn Toyota sucks now, they along with Honda have made nothing but turds in the last 10 to 15 years. Spice up their line again with cars younger buyers want, that way when they grow up, they will want to keep Toyota/Honda for their 4 door family cars. These two brands only live on their quality name they built up in the 80's and 90's now, not on their looks. Bring back the Celica!!!
Toyota sucks? The Camry V6 will do 0-60 in 5.8 seconds. I wouldn't say that sucks. They don't have an exotic rival such as the old Supra turbo, but even if they did it would be priced well outside the range for a buyer even with a decent income. Just look at the new NSX as an example - everyone wanted Honda to release it and now that they are going to, nobody aside from millionaires can even afford it. At least the average Joe can afford a V6 Accord or Camry.
oldtwins so you think a bunch of 16 and 18 year old kids wana rock a camry?? Really??? I want to see them bring out a celica again, something fun, sporty, yet priced right in the sweet spot of 20k range.
Acc0rd79 A brand new Camry v6 costs 33k SMH you can buy a GTI fully loaded with that money. None of the Asian makes produce anything with balls beside the bastard car that is the BRZ/FRS.
***** dude what the hell are you smoking? You don't buy an Accord or Camry for being fun and exciting. Maybe you should drive some actual cars.
Acc0rd79 The base model Celica was 30k in 1990 in my country, not many young people can afford that either(Using an inflation calculator that's 55k now). And if you want the real one (The GT-Four or AllTrac) it was 45k in 1990.. Now that's worth over 80k! It's really hard to make sports cars cheap, thats why they are barely made anymore. This is why young people own cheap little cars like old pulsars. I personally have a v6 5 speed camry myself, and yes it is insanely boring. However a lot of other young drivers race me and loose badly, they greatly underestimate it due to the fact that it's a camry. It is actually the fastest car you can buy where I live without spending over 5k. Not bad
It sounds amazing !!!!
Scotty approves this video!!
even by 88, the audi only won and held up at the track, every customer who purchased a audi at the dealer in the mid to late 80s had nothing but reliabilty breakdown and red lite warnings on the dash. the audi still cost more in 88, but the celica all models of the 80s had none of these problems for less. something even in 88 this show host knew, to bad he didnt mention it.
Thats a badass car!!
I freaking love this channel lol
Perfect, where can I buy one?
That body roll
That's roughly $49,000 adjusted to 2018 numbers!
Why couldn't they decide if it was 4wd (which it wasn't) or awd (which it was) ?
Wow - you really get what you pay for. I knew early on in the video that this car wasn't cheap, but $23,703 in 1988 ?? In today's dollars that would be around 60 grand. You would have to be filthy rich to drive this bad boy.
this seem to be even better then a supra, it was not overrated and yet a better car then a MK3
The Turbo kind of sucked. I changed mine for a ST-185 engine and turbo and it made the car perfect
The nest generation was the one I liked it was just a rounder cleaner version of this version
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When this baby hits 88 mile per hour...you're gonna see some serious shit.
Think Toyota has always just built Avalons, Camrys, & Corollas?!!!!! NAY NAY!!!!!! There was a time, in the 80's & '90's, when they built cars that kicked some SERIOUS ASS, & this 1988 Celica All-Trac is surely a fine representation of that!!!!!
I fit just fine and I’m 6’4”. Just lean the seat back a notch. That mileage is nonsense tho. I’ve had several of these engines from highly modified (8mpg) to stock (~15mpg).
A good friend of mine and I both have ST165s. I'm 5'10" and they're 6'6". They manage to fit, though nobody's fitting behind them. I find my seating position comfortable, yet a bit snug; I'm a little more portly these days, haha!
For fuel mileage I'm turning 15-17mpg city and about 24-25mpg highway, though that's on a mostly stock, low-mileage(46K) Gen 1. The range isn't that great, but it is what it is. Wouldn't give this car up for the world. :)
Alltracavenger
Actually, all of mine have been RC model ST-185 Engines swapped in so they are probably considerably more thirsty.