Clips absolutely give you a big advantage for plowing through chunky and steep terrain. Because you don't have to worry about your feet bouncing off the pedals, you can focus more on choosing the fastest line and controlling the bike. That being said, I prefer flats when performing technical climbs, riding skinnies, or any other situation where I feel the need to quickly place a foot down. In summary: I ride clipless pedals on my Kenevo SL and flats on my Levo.
@Bev The Darkness hahaha! It’s the gatekeeper! Most of us ride traditional mtbs and EMTBs. I race a stumpy evo in Enduro events and gets loads of practice laps in on my Levo. I guess I’m only partially a mountain biker.
I had trouble with my feet coming off flat pedals when lunging up technical climbs, but I had trouble getting unclipped in awkward falls with clip in pedals. Then I got the Shimano M647 pedals and used the SH-56 multi release cleat. Now my feet are on the pedals when I want them to be, but I can instantly touch down a foot without thinking about twisting my foot to release. The only weakness is if you are a rider that really whips the bike in the air, you may unclip in that situation. But these pedals are the easiest to get your feet into when restarting a techy climb, and they are as easy to exit as flats. For techy trail riding they work almost perfectly for me.
@@th_js You mean "Crackbrothers"? I tried some of their pedals, and they were complete junk. A few rock strikes and the bars were bent and you couldn't clip in or out easily. I ride really rocky Arizona trails, and the Shimano pedals will take a horrendous beating. My ex girlfriend had some Crackbrothers pedals, and I remember her falling over with her foot stuck, and when I got her out I could see the pedal retention bars were bent and gouged up. They may be okay if you don't ride where you get rocky pedal strikes all the time. But for the trails I like, they just don't seem to be able to take abuse. They didn't even stand up to my girlfriend that weighed 60 pounds less than me. But they may work excellent if you ride trails where rocky pedal strikes are rare. So an opinion could vary greatly depending on the terrain a product is used on.
@@twowheelsdown2002 Which pedals are you talking about specifically? I've hit my Mallet DH -pedals on rocks a lot, and they seem indestructible. I also know a few people, who have also had great success with them. I couldn't imagine going back to SPD, ever.
@@th_js We tried both Candys, and Mallets. I find that the Shimano M647 is much easier to enter upon a restart on a techy climb, since the mechanism rotates up and as your foot slides forward it goes right in without having to stomp around to find the sweet spot. Also, if you are climbing a techy climb with Crankbrothers if you hit a rock on the bottom, it can open the pedal and unclip you. Really annoying!
I cant help but think that manufactures only use EP8s because they get better pricing on brakes and gears if they buy the whole package. Why else use an under powered rattle prone motor.
Hi guys, sorry, that is the trailhead to “Joplin” trail in Silverado, CA. It,s about 5000’ up and drops down to “The Luge” trail (the Luge is a very popular Southern California DH trail). We live in a neighborhood at the foot of these mountains, so we can ride out of our front doors up here…we’re lucky. 🍻
It's a funny idea that for sedate riding I often use flats like if I'm popping to work in the shops. For serious riding the spd come out because I don't want to coming detached from the bike. Plus flats have no float so mess up my knees Spd allow them to move around as I pedal
I love the idea of the Topeak workstand, but for the high price it's disappointing that it only "assists" with a lifting limit of 17kg...perhaps it works very well in practice ?? Would like to see other stand manufacturers make a version of this...Park Tool E-UP1.0 ?
While I agree that the "craze" can be a bit irritating, if I had "deep pockets", I'd definitely buy an e-bike, because why wouldn't I want to do twice the amount of downhills compared to a non-e-bike? I absolutely in fckn hell would not ever have only an e-bike (at least not any of the current overpriced half-developed ones), but both bikes would be great to have.
I got Flats as Dodgy Hips so need get Feet off Pedals Quick Haibikes got fancy advert but not got Many Ebikes 2022 bikes hardly any new bikes bikes out ones with new Yamaha pw X3 not be out to 2023 any EMBN people at Cycle Show & Ebike Festival at Show
Or people, who ride very rough/technical trails, where you need to pedal, where clips provide a substantial advantage, leading to faster and easier riding. If I didn't ride in the aforementioned conditions at all, I'd absolutely be 100% a flat rider, but on some trails the clips just provide an advantage that is too big to not take into consideration.
@@th_js I was being a bit tongue in cheek but, for me, grippy pedals and five tens kept my feet on pretty much as well as clips but without the nightmare of trying to clip back in while the bike is bouncing all over the place.
Another category of bikes, gravity bike, however do they come up with these things. You can pigeon hole all these bikes into which ever category you want, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, then it's a duck, just like all these bikes are mountain bikes. Despite the best efforts of manufacturers to extort more money out of their customers.
This comment that racers use 29 inch wheels so that is the what ordinary riders should use is lazy. For normal trail riding 29 inch feels slow and heavy. Just because those who race which is a very small percentage of everyday riders find an extra few seconds off their time Brendogging down some far away mountain does not mean that the bikes are suited for normal riding on local trails.
Oh dear, I’m gonna have to sell my new 29r Eccentric hardtail I’ve been bombing around my local trails on and loving every minute on now I’ve read your comment 😂😂😂
What do you think of the new NS Bikes 'E' range? 👀 👇
Very boring.
Not Sure
Clips absolutely give you a big advantage for plowing through chunky and steep terrain. Because you don't have to worry about your feet bouncing off the pedals, you can focus more on choosing the fastest line and controlling the bike. That being said, I prefer flats when performing technical climbs, riding skinnies, or any other situation where I feel the need to quickly place a foot down. In summary: I ride clipless pedals on my Kenevo SL and flats on my Levo.
Get good enough flats and your feet won't move an inch, not slipped on rough stuff once with the Marin
BIG UP TO EMBN FOR THE GREAT JOB YOU ALL DO FOR THE MOUNTAIN BIKERS😁😁
@Bev The Darkness hahaha! It’s the gatekeeper! Most of us ride traditional mtbs and EMTBs. I race a stumpy evo in Enduro events and gets loads of practice laps in on my Levo. I guess I’m only partially a mountain biker.
Thanks, Callum! 🙌
Couldn’t bring myself to buy a bike with an EP8 purely for the rattle, not acceptable on bikes that cost this much.
Brilliant guy's thanks for the footage my friend's 🤪👊♥️🇬🇧
You're welcome, Stephen! Thanks for the support! 👊
I had trouble with my feet coming off flat pedals when lunging up technical climbs, but I had trouble getting unclipped in awkward falls with clip in pedals. Then I got the Shimano M647 pedals and used the SH-56 multi release cleat. Now my feet are on the pedals when I want them to be, but I can instantly touch down a foot without thinking about twisting my foot to release. The only weakness is if you are a rider that really whips the bike in the air, you may unclip in that situation. But these pedals are the easiest to get your feet into when restarting a techy climb, and they are as easy to exit as flats. For techy trail riding they work almost perfectly for me.
Just get Crankbrothers Mallets
@@th_js You mean "Crackbrothers"? I tried some of their pedals, and they were complete junk. A few rock strikes and the bars were bent and you couldn't clip in or out easily. I ride really rocky Arizona trails, and the Shimano pedals will take a horrendous beating. My ex girlfriend had some Crackbrothers pedals, and I remember her falling over with her foot stuck, and when I got her out I could see the pedal retention bars were bent and gouged up. They may be okay if you don't ride where you get rocky pedal strikes all the time. But for the trails I like, they just don't seem to be able to take abuse. They didn't even stand up to my girlfriend that weighed 60 pounds less than me. But they may work excellent if you ride trails where rocky pedal strikes are rare. So an opinion could vary greatly depending on the terrain a product is used on.
@@twowheelsdown2002 Which pedals are you talking about specifically? I've hit my Mallet DH -pedals on rocks a lot, and they seem indestructible. I also know a few people, who have also had great success with them. I couldn't imagine going back to SPD, ever.
@@th_js We tried both Candys, and Mallets. I find that the Shimano M647 is much easier to enter upon a restart on a techy climb, since the mechanism rotates up and as your foot slides forward it goes right in without having to stomp around to find the sweet spot. Also, if you are climbing a techy climb with Crankbrothers if you hit a rock on the bottom, it can open the pedal and unclip you. Really annoying!
I cant help but think that manufactures only use EP8s because they get better pricing on brakes and gears if they buy the whole package. Why else use an under powered rattle prone motor.
We use them. Excellent.
Hi guys, sorry, that is the trailhead to “Joplin” trail in Silverado, CA. It,s about 5000’ up and drops down to “The Luge” trail (the Luge is a very popular Southern California DH trail). We live in a neighborhood at the foot of these mountains, so we can ride out of our front doors up here…we’re lucky. 🍻
Love the look of the NS bikes, my last analogue bike was an NS Snabb.before I moved to the dark side ( ebike) lol🤣
What Shimano backup? Shimano can't even change the bearings in their units
Giant bikes blow this away
It's a funny idea that for sedate riding I often use flats like if I'm popping to work in the shops.
For serious riding the spd come out because I don't want to coming detached from the bike. Plus flats have no float so mess up my knees
Spd allow them to move around as I pedal
I love the idea of the Topeak workstand, but for the high price it's disappointing that it only "assists" with a lifting limit of 17kg...perhaps it works very well in practice ?? Would like to see other stand manufacturers make a version of this...Park Tool E-UP1.0 ?
NS looks nice if it had a Bosch motor...
£800 for a bike stand 🤣🤣🤣👍
Flat pedals = balance, clipless pedals = more endurance more used leg power
STEREO HYBRID 160 HPC TM 750 27.5 - please, review this!
Are you guys running a giveaway comp?
Unless you have health issues and deep pockets, I still don't get the E-Bike craze in europe...Pedal assist to 15mph...come on !!!
I always thought so as well and than I sat on my first emtb 😎🤙 now I ride more often and further
While I agree that the "craze" can be a bit irritating, if I had "deep pockets", I'd definitely buy an e-bike, because why wouldn't I want to do twice the amount of downhills compared to a non-e-bike?
I absolutely in fckn hell would not ever have only an e-bike (at least not any of the current overpriced half-developed ones), but both bikes would be great to have.
I got Flats as Dodgy Hips so need get Feet off Pedals Quick Haibikes got fancy advert but not got Many Ebikes 2022 bikes hardly any new bikes bikes out ones with new Yamaha pw X3 not be out to 2023 any EMBN people at Cycle Show & Ebike Festival at Show
Overpriced.!!!
Clips are for Lycra wearers and roadies.
Or people, who ride very rough/technical trails, where you need to pedal, where clips provide a substantial advantage, leading to faster and easier riding.
If I didn't ride in the aforementioned conditions at all, I'd absolutely be 100% a flat rider, but on some trails the clips just provide an advantage that is too big to not take into consideration.
@@th_js I was being a bit tongue in cheek but, for me, grippy pedals and five tens kept my feet on pretty much as well as clips but without the nightmare of trying to clip back in while the bike is bouncing all over the place.
Another category of bikes, gravity bike, however do they come up with these things.
You can pigeon hole all these bikes into which ever category you want, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, then it's a duck, just like all these bikes are mountain bikes.
Despite the best efforts of manufacturers to extort more money out of their customers.
This comment that racers use 29 inch wheels so that is the what ordinary riders should use is lazy. For normal trail riding 29 inch feels slow and heavy. Just because those who race which is a very small percentage of everyday riders find an extra few seconds off their time Brendogging down some far away mountain does not mean that the bikes are suited for normal riding on local trails.
Oh dear, I’m gonna have to sell my new 29r Eccentric hardtail I’ve been bombing around my local trails on and loving every minute on now I’ve read your comment 😂😂😂
@@mbal4052 good idea