A must know trick in having a real good time on a board for sure. I'm so glad you created this tutorial for the surf skate crowds! This is the foundation that set's all skateboards free from limitations.I thought it was awesome you ollie four different set up. Your video are so motivating Mark!
Thanks Mark! Specially for ollie in all of those surfskates and show the difference. I was really wondering if anyone had ever ollie on Waterborne adapters.
You got it! This one will take a lot of repetitive practice but it opens so many more opportunities. Even if only for utilitarian purposes it is great to not have to get off the board to go up and down sidewalk curbs or other obstacles.
Thank you for the time you spent doing this tutorial. I guess you could have just said "you can do it with classic surfskate setups meaning non street dedicated ones" and ended your tutorial there but it is really a nice thing for us to actually see how it is going with these different setups !!! Very helpful tips on foot positioning as well !! Keep going on with your channel, you deserve more followers ;) Cheers !
Thanks so much for the kind words and encouragement, I wanted to show the reality for learning on this one - It isn’t always going to be first try! I have too many ideas for the channel to slow down now, so keep watching because there is lots of good stuff on the way.
Yeah, I might not have explained it that well in the video but the way I think of it is that your front foot isn't just sliding diagonally forward in a 45 degree line, it is almost creating a wave shaped curl the way a wave barrels almost backwards and upwards at first relative to the momentum of the wave as a whole before lurching forward and back down.
Honestly, this was one of many video ideas I had, but when I saw your IG post about being on day 5 learning to ollie, I decided I better get it posted quick, because you’ll probably be better than me at ollies in 2 or 3 weeks! 😆
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer haha no way bro, you are way more experienced than me! Besides it's not a competition. Just a community having fun and sharing the stoke
@@shanelai2515 Haha, totally agreed, I was just having fun with that comment. It is great that we can learn from each other and help grow such a cool worldwide community. I watched your latest chain video before heading out tonight to tighten up the pump technique.
This is nothing compared to my bowl fly outs, and so far all seem to be holding up alright. But agreed, long term, CX or C5 style might be best for the stair-sets and big air!
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer well then maybe we are getting fake boards here in Europe. You jump with the Surf Skate just a couple of time and the spring system just go on vacation.
Just today I was thinking about trying an ollie on the oxelo surfskate and then this video appeared on my homepage. Looks very challenging as the tail is so little
The yow will be tough but then again think yow beats any adaptor for surf training.I am so addicted to the medina 33 with bones 60 mm 2005 reissue that im out all day .I am wrecked .Thanks for the video .Back to practice.
I enjoy your vids. You mention setting up a standard deck with C5 trucks for street tricks. What size and hardness wheels do you use? I still want to have some of the stability of softer wider wheels for bowl riding but hard enough to make Ollie's and other tricks easier to learn. I have a carver firefly with C7 trucks now for straight carving.
I'm using Bones Rough Riders All-Terrain Formula - They are 80a but smaller size - They wouldn't be ideal for pumping long distance but great for ollies, releasing from grinds without hangups, and they do provide enough grip and release to slide. I use that board set up for about half the tricks in "Unconventional" if you want to see them in action.
This one is a Darkroom deck with Carver Mini-CX trucks and Bones rough riders wheels. I have another really good set up that is easier to replicate made of a Powell Peralta Nitro Hot Rod deck, Carver CX trucks, and Powell Peralta 90a Rat Bones wheels. It is a great hybrid board for doing skate tricks on a SurfSkate.
Question: Considering how high surf skates sit, would it help to add a tail bone or skid plate under the kick so it hits the ground earlier? Great vid, I really want to learn this. Thanks
An interesting theory. I couldn't find anything with a quick search. I would think that it would dampen your pop on a regular board, but given that some surfskates are so high that it is difficult to even make contact, a dampened pop might be better than nothing. Anyone else try this?
“Concave” is about the side edges (rail) mainly, and for ollies that won’t affect it at all. But having a tail with some lift will make it a lot easier to Ollie, so a kick tail is the main thing you’ll need. You could see the struggles I had with the Oxelo in this video. Learning early grabs and bonelesses is an alternative if you have a board without a kicktail.
Thanks, yeah not all of the board are designed for it. Have you seen my other video that shows 10 no-Ollie flatland tricks? Still a world of possibilities even without ollies.
Hey mark I ordered my board about 2 years ago and I’ve been loving it I’ve only recently taken it to the skate park does me taking off 1 off the riser pads effect my ride? Thanks.
Hi Craig, that might make it more susceptible to wheel bite if your trucks are loose. If you’ve been riding it without that happening so far you should be fine, and it will make ollies a bit easier.
Hmmm, it is one of those things that is personal preference. What is your aspiration for riding style - More about surfy carves or interested in more skateboard tricks like airs and grinds also?
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I'm looking to mainly keep the surfy feel while still being able to learn ollies on the flat ( airs in a bowl is probably still a good 6 month away)
Nice! I have been wondering this for ages. My smoothstar is extremely loose in the front so landing it kind of gives the same effect as the waterborne. I have asked something about the C5 trucks before (sorry 🙈) but one last time. Do they really still give you that surfskate feel or is it a very big step back from the CX (kind) or the C7? Thnx heaps for the videos. I was thoroughly impressed by the 1 year video.
I think your very first surfskate experience shapes your expectations. For me the C5 was my first and it felt like the loosest craziest truck I ever felt at the time. But now that I have used C7 and Smoothstar and Meraki, going back to the C5 will make it feel tight and less surfy. So if your starting point is a smoothstar, the C5 will feel restrictive, but, it performs so well for skatepark use and loosening the kingpin and adding a higher riser and it can feel almost like CX. It wouldn’t be my choice for cruising and carving the sidewalks, but in a bowl it is magic.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer thnx heaps Mark. So in a bowl you prefer it above the CX? I'll definitely keep my smoothstar because, as a surfer, there's nothing like it for training on flat ground. But I accidentally thoroughly got hooked on riding bowls 😳😂
@@SunriseSessions I went smoothstar and its kool to cruise in a bowl but very loose..a few have said even the C7 is easyer for bowl, dropping in and going backwards...I think the CX closely resembles a normal skateboard truck..What smoothstar model do you have and how is the ollie for you?
@@SunriseSessions I do prefer it to CX in a bowl because I feel comfortable grinding the coping with no kingpin hangups on the C5, and with a larger riser the difference in turning radius is marginal.
Practice somewhere safe to start, and don't be shy to throw on pads and helmet. One way to practice the motions with less risk is to put your board on a foam gym mat to prevent it from rolling. Put a plank of wood or something else hard at the place where your tail hits the ground so you don't dampen the pop. Practicing like this in the beginning could help you slowly build up the confidence before you try it on hard ground and then rolling. Good luck!
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I didn t disliked your video. And after seeing your comment I went further and let me tell you that were some shitty ollies sry. And the boards you used have tight trucks (I think there s a Decathlon surfskate) nothing compare to a Swelltech or a Smoothstar for example. So I was right, it s very dificult and take a lot of effort to do a poor ollie on a surfskate, as for an experienced skateboarder like you.
@@snakeplissken2428 I apologize that I was unable to help you improve your surfskating and hope you find something that works out better for you. Good luck.
A must know trick in having a real good time on a board for sure. I'm so glad you created this tutorial for the surf skate crowds! This is the foundation that set's all skateboards free from limitations.I thought it was awesome you ollie four different set up. Your video are so motivating Mark!
Thanks so much for watching and for the comment Noel!
Thanks Mark! Specially for ollie in all of those surfskates and show the difference. I was really wondering if anyone had ever ollie on Waterborne adapters.
Thank you for this. I've finally got carving down from your videos and ready to upgrade what I can do on my board
You got it! This one will take a lot of repetitive practice but it opens so many more opportunities. Even if only for utilitarian purposes it is great to not have to get off the board to go up and down sidewalk curbs or other obstacles.
Thank you for the time you spent doing this tutorial. I guess you could have just said "you can do it with classic surfskate setups meaning non street dedicated ones" and ended your tutorial there but it is really a nice thing for us to actually see how it is going with these different setups !!! Very helpful tips on foot positioning as well !! Keep going on with your channel, you deserve more followers ;) Cheers !
Thanks so much for the kind words and encouragement, I wanted to show the reality for learning on this one - It isn’t always going to be first try! I have too many ideas for the channel to slow down now, so keep watching because there is lots of good stuff on the way.
I can Ollie on a regular skateboard, with trucks super tight.... Man this is another level
With practice it gets easier! I actually hate watching this video now as my ollies on any surfskate are way smoother these days. Give it a shot!
Awesome video man!! This is the one thing i've really put off mastering. Thanks for the breakdown. Ill have to give the wave analogy a try
Yeah, I might not have explained it that well in the video but the way I think of it is that your front foot isn't just sliding diagonally forward in a 45 degree line, it is almost creating a wave shaped curl the way a wave barrels almost backwards and upwards at first relative to the momentum of the wave as a whole before lurching forward and back down.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer makes sense! My big issue is I always wind up doing a fs 180. My body won’t stay in that box lol
Wow !!! That's so awesome ! Thanks for sharing bro !!
Honestly, this was one of many video ideas I had, but when I saw your IG post about being on day 5 learning to ollie, I decided I better get it posted quick, because you’ll probably be better than me at ollies in 2 or 3 weeks! 😆
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer haha no way bro, you are way more experienced than me! Besides it's not a competition. Just a community having fun and sharing the stoke
@@shanelai2515 Haha, totally agreed, I was just having fun with that comment. It is great that we can learn from each other and help grow such a cool worldwide community. I watched your latest chain video before heading out tonight to tighten up the pump technique.
Hell ya man you ride that like a pro!! So sick!! Those boards are so fun to ride, thanks again for letting me try it yesterday.
I'm going to have to start practicing those rock kickflip to fakies next time.
Thank you!! Appreciate all you do!! 🏄♂️ 🛹 🤙
Ollie on a Surf Skate = say goodbye to your Truck System.
This is nothing compared to my bowl fly outs, and so far all seem to be holding up alright. But agreed, long term, CX or C5 style might be best for the stair-sets and big air!
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer well then maybe we are getting fake boards here in Europe. You jump with the Surf Skate just a couple of time and the spring system just go on vacation.
Thank u Mark. Incredible helpful video
Just today I was thinking about trying an ollie on the oxelo surfskate and then this video appeared on my homepage. Looks very challenging as the tail is so little
Hardest of all my boards for sure but with practice you could do it better than I do here!
Another great video! Thanks! I actually just received my skate trainers so I can start working on this too!!!
I used tennis balls in the basement over the winter!
The yow will be tough but then again think yow beats any adaptor for surf training.I am so addicted to the medina 33 with bones 60 mm 2005 reissue that im out all day .I am wrecked .Thanks for the video .Back to practice.
Thanks so much!!
Thanks indeed. I'll be trying this once my house move is complete and I can get my surfskate out of storage
I enjoy your vids. You mention setting up a standard deck with C5 trucks for street tricks. What size and hardness wheels do you use? I still want to have some of the stability of softer wider wheels for bowl riding but hard enough to make Ollie's and other tricks easier to learn. I have a carver firefly with C7 trucks now for straight carving.
I'm using Bones Rough Riders All-Terrain Formula - They are 80a but smaller size - They wouldn't be ideal for pumping long distance but great for ollies, releasing from grinds without hangups, and they do provide enough grip and release to slide. I use that board set up for about half the tricks in "Unconventional" if you want to see them in action.
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Thanks for the video ! I would like to make my own surfskate too, what models of trucks/deck and wheels did you choose for yours?
This one is a Darkroom deck with Carver Mini-CX trucks and Bones rough riders wheels. I have another really good set up that is easier to replicate made of a Powell Peralta Nitro Hot Rod deck, Carver CX trucks, and Powell Peralta 90a Rat Bones wheels. It is a great hybrid board for doing skate tricks on a SurfSkate.
Kool man..not many trying to ollie surfskates at the moment...I would have liked to see how well a smoothstar manta ray ollies for you.
I'd be more than willing to accept one to try it 😁
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I would have thought a landlocked surfer of your calibre would have one...)
Question: Considering how high surf skates sit, would it help to add a tail bone or skid plate under the kick so it hits the ground earlier? Great vid, I really want to learn this. Thanks
An interesting theory. I couldn't find anything with a quick search. I would think that it would dampen your pop on a regular board, but given that some surfskates are so high that it is difficult to even make contact, a dampened pop might be better than nothing. Anyone else try this?
My surf skate is carver triton, its kinda flat with no concave. I still can learn ollie on that?
“Concave” is about the side edges (rail) mainly, and for ollies that won’t affect it at all. But having a tail with some lift will make it a lot easier to Ollie, so a kick tail is the main thing you’ll need. You could see the struggles I had with the Oxelo in this video. Learning early grabs and bonelesses is an alternative if you have a board without a kicktail.
Hi I wonder which wrist protection are you using in this video?
Really great video and espacially helpful.
But the problem is, I have a board that I am not able to do a Ollie
Thanks, yeah not all of the board are designed for it. Have you seen my other video that shows 10 no-Ollie flatland tricks? Still a world of possibilities even without ollies.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer yeah have seen it, but already into advanced tricks l, just looking for new tricks to inspire myself
@@manugr2303 Early grab airs and flyouts from bowls are doable without a kicktail. They are on my list of future tutorials.
Hey mark I ordered my board about 2 years ago and I’ve been loving it I’ve only recently taken it to the skate park does me taking off 1 off the riser pads effect my ride? Thanks.
Hi Craig, that might make it more susceptible to wheel bite if your trucks are loose. If you’ve been riding it without that happening so far you should be fine, and it will make ollies a bit easier.
awesome video- thanks! do you got any recommendations on the deck size? I drive a slide v3 truck and am quite tall (1,93m)
Hmmm, it is one of those things that is personal preference. What is your aspiration for riding style - More about surfy carves or interested in more skateboard tricks like airs and grinds also?
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I'm looking to mainly keep the surfy feel while still being able to learn ollies on the flat ( airs in a bowl is probably still a good 6 month away)
Nice! I have been wondering this for ages. My smoothstar is extremely loose in the front so landing it kind of gives the same effect as the waterborne.
I have asked something about the C5 trucks before (sorry 🙈) but one last time. Do they really still give you that surfskate feel or is it a very big step back from the CX (kind) or the C7? Thnx heaps for the videos. I was thoroughly impressed by the 1 year video.
I think your very first surfskate experience shapes your expectations. For me the C5 was my first and it felt like the loosest craziest truck I ever felt at the time. But now that I have used C7 and Smoothstar and Meraki, going back to the C5 will make it feel tight and less surfy. So if your starting point is a smoothstar, the C5 will feel restrictive, but, it performs so well for skatepark use and loosening the kingpin and adding a higher riser and it can feel almost like CX. It wouldn’t be my choice for cruising and carving the sidewalks, but in a bowl it is magic.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer thnx heaps Mark. So in a bowl you prefer it above the CX? I'll definitely keep my smoothstar because, as a surfer, there's nothing like it for training on flat ground. But I accidentally thoroughly got hooked on riding bowls 😳😂
@@SunriseSessions I went smoothstar and its kool to cruise in a bowl but very loose..a few have said even the C7 is easyer for bowl, dropping in and going backwards...I think the CX closely resembles a normal skateboard truck..What smoothstar model do you have and how is the ollie for you?
@@SunriseSessions I do prefer it to CX in a bowl because I feel comfortable grinding the coping with no kingpin hangups on the C5, and with a larger riser the difference in turning radius is marginal.
Hey bro,i got a yow pukas,do u think it would be possible?
Definitely possible! I have 3 different YOW boards and they ollie quite well. Pukas looks shaped well enough to do so too.
Thats a regular ollie even on a regular deck, just putted some other trucks underneeth so what is surfskate in this?
I apologize for disappointing you.
I lack confidence to ollie... Any tips for me?
Practice somewhere safe to start, and don't be shy to throw on pads and helmet. One way to practice the motions with less risk is to put your board on a foam gym mat to prevent it from rolling. Put a plank of wood or something else hard at the place where your tail hits the ground so you don't dampen the pop. Practicing like this in the beginning could help you slowly build up the confidence before you try it on hard ground and then rolling. Good luck!
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer Thank so much, lets try this!
in conclusion: *BE A SKATEBOARDER*
You are just showing a basic ollie on a basic skate. Now try to do this with surfskate truck and wheels that are 70mm 78a. Good luck
I did, it is literally in this video, feel free to edit your dislike after watching the rest.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I didn t disliked your video. And after seeing your comment I went further and let me tell you that were some shitty ollies sry. And the boards you used have tight trucks (I think there s a Decathlon surfskate) nothing compare to a Swelltech or a Smoothstar for example. So I was right, it s very dificult and take a lot of effort to do a poor ollie on a surfskate, as for an experienced skateboarder like you.
@@snakeplissken2428 I apologize that I was unable to help you improve your surfskating and hope you find something that works out better for you. Good luck.
@@MarktheLandlockedSurfer I apoligize too If I was rude, it was not my purpose. Have a good continuation.