@@anm4513 Not to mention that in total I've heard that each Transformers Prime episode cost well over a million dollars to make, and there are 66 episodes as I recall.
I have a theory to “pain variation”. Most of the weapons they use can either be pea shooters or full-blast autos. The force of the different types of guns are different, such as Skyquake’s machine gun. His gun literally shoved Optimus 20 feet in human measures, but it was lacking in accuracy. Then, Arcee has blasters that were accurate, but it was like throwing pebbles at a stop sign. Another addition to this theory is that some bots can take more of a beating than others. Skyquake was almost a tank, taking hits from the Autobots like he was Megatron. And this also goes for his brother. Starscream is easier to hit because he’s frail and inexperienced in hand-to-hand combat. Take that he has no sword or melee weapon except for his “claws”. All he has as an advantage is his highly-explosive missiles, which striked Predaking right on the back and stunned him. But then, there’s the Vehicons. Oh boy I don’t need to explain it....
I have another theory Maybe the metals on their bodies are armour that can absorb energon blasts like Megatron's armour is made of best metal so he is never hurt by an energon blaster but some vehicons do not have that good quality armour so they easily get pierced
I don't think Starscream is inexperinced in hand to hand combat. He's just a coward, who prefers running. I always wanted to see Prime Starscream fighting with someone seriously like the Armada version.
though not necessarily cannon to the aligned continuity. it has been confirmed in the animated series that cybertronians can intake inorganic metal into their body, and their biology quickly assimilates it into cybermetal or whatever they are actually made of. i believe this was also referenced in IDW, but i cannot confirm that. love your channel, made me re-watch prime all over again with new understandings about the bots and cons. *edit. forgot to list the scene.... oops tranformers animated season 1 Ep 15-16 "Megatron Rising"
By hard science standards...the metal that their living metal appears to be based on is scandium. The properties match up rather nicely. Granted it's not pure scandium as scandium is a soft metal that corrodes quickly and is vulnerable to certain corrosive chemicals. Though I can see cybertronians being made of a scandium-aluminum alloy.
I just recently found your channel and I've been showing your videos to a friend of mine as he had just gotten through watching the entirety of Transformers Prime and I'm trying to initiate him into the fandom. I'm glad to know that there are still people talking about this awesome series.
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@@F_NerdShark for a basic start. Watch the G1 Cartoon, of course. Next, watch the G1 Movie. Next, Beast Wars. After that, go through the Unicron trilogy (optional). There is a great RUclipsr named Chris Mcfeely who discusses different transformers characters, continuities, concepts, and mythology.
Great video, Emperor! Just a few things I hope might help: On the subject of how transformers might see in their alt-forms, you mention that they might have small cameras or scanners along their form, and how this might have enabled Starscream to see behind him. I think something to support this is that this does exist IRL. Most modern fighter jets have radar to help the pilots see beyond their visual range and warn them of incoming threats or other things, and a new fighter jet, the F-35 Lightning II, actually does have cameras all over its frame to give the pilot 360° visibility, with AR vision to boot. And concerning Starscream's size: he appears to transform into a considerably modified version of a General Dynamics F-16 'Viper' (his version appears to have a different cockpit design and extra wings), a light fighter jet that is very small even compared to other fighter jets in its class (fighters like the Saab Gripen, Dassault Rafale, and Mitsubishi F-2A (yes, THAT Mitsubishi) are marginally larger), so his size appears to be about accurate for his alt form. Just pointing out a few things to help, have a good day.
I always thought that Skyquake couldn't transform into a vehicle because it had probably been millions of years since he left cybertron. My thought has always been that being in stasis for that long causes a cybertronian to lose their vehicle form and be forced to accquire a new one
That matches up with Rescue Bots fairly well actually. When they first arrived on Earth they had been in stasis for a long period of time and they didn't seem to even have any kibble (things like visible tires and windows in Robot mode) and didn't transform at all until scanning a new Alt-mode. So perhaps after an extended period of inactivity the T-Cog or other relevant organ 'forgets' the current alt-mode and thus need to acquire a new one before they can transform.
As to how they see, cybertronians with a military shape, tanks and combat aircraft, can see all around themselves because they come with a scanner/radar. Non-military grounders in vehicle mode see through their headlights and mirrors. It is possible, and plausible, that non-military fliers have 360-sensors like the military ones have as a flight safety requirement.
I figure that flight was far more common in Cybertron's past, as most Transformers we see appear to have some form of vestigial wings, most commonly reconfigured to form doors of their car Alt-forms.
Considorig the dark Energon works like drugs, this would probadly explain how con his size and body survived with out SCREAMING after getting his ARM BLOW OFF (and Yes, pun intended)
Question: In the episode 25 Regeneration of Season 2. Optimus says ''They're reconstruction, would require a level of expertise I do not possess'' Reffering to the reconstruction of the Omega-Keys using the Forge of Solus Prime. Yet Optimus was able to reforge a Sacrid Relic of the Primes. The Star Saber. Altough the blade itself turned to dust, the handle survived. Still I don't understand how optimus was able to reforge this sacrid item. Yet could not replicate the Omega-keys
I'm not entirely sure cause I'm not a MASSIVE fan or into much lore. *I don't buy books, I just watch shows* I think he was able to recreate the sword cause the knowledge of primes resides within him thanks to the matrix, but the Omega keys I believe were before primes and Primus created them. It's an artifact that could literally trasnform entire planet into metal and I don't think anyone but Primus was able to create them. He just helped it be able to be wielded by primes.
10:40 is that why starscream makes a point of belittling knockout for "choosing" to be an automobile because even though doc knock was probably born a grounder, the decepticons mastered the science to convert grounders? Also, I feel like automobile might hint at knockout being autosexual especially since he likes the way he looks in steel belted radials (I know Cybertronians are ace but still)
I think the reason Skyquake does not have a vehicle mode could be due to a few reasons. Reason 1: he’s been in stasis for a very long time without moving at all, so his T-cog could have “forgot” his alt mode, or (Reason 2) his body was not able to stretch and compact enough enough to transform into his Cybertronian jet, so, he had to scan a different jet to transform, or maybe it’s both reasons combined
When you said "the Tcog acts as a brain and tells parts to manipulate and break down" what happens if they do try to transform without it? Do they just get massively deformed? We saw what happened to starscream, nothing happened but maybe if you try hard enough. Or does the cybertronian body have its limits on the flexibility?
If I had to compare it to our own biology, I'd say think about it in the way that our brains limit our physical strength. Humans can exert a crazy (for a human) amount of strength in a dire situation, but it normally comes with injury. Our brains keep that from happening. If you try to lift something too heavy, you might feel pain. That's the signal saying "stop that" as a preservation method. I think it works the same for a cybertronian, except instead of it all being part of one central brain (which already does so much crazy stuff we don't ever take into account, not to mention that ours expire after 90ish years these days while a cybertronian lives for millions of years if not longer) it's relegated to that "secondary brain" that handles that entire function. Imagine if our bodies had the ability to break apart and reshape themselves? I don't think our brains could handle all those individual parts moving in such a fashion. It'd be like trying to manipulate a thousand fingers or more at once manually. A simpler solution is the T-Cog that computes the easiest and most fficient way to swap body shapes and manage the movement of all the bodyparts to reach said shapes, as well as store the information for those (the normal body with new vehicle mode assets included ((like the doors that make up bumblebee's "wings")) as well as the vehicle mode itself.) Pardon the long ass explanation, I'm recently very into Transformers again and just binged Prime 3 days ago so I've had it on the mind quite a bit.
Megatron as an individual for the "How do they see in their alt-forms?" question is easy, his head can be seen in his alt-form, on the top of the jet's superstructure. This could probably mean that he could use his optics. If you don't believe me, look closely, it's in front of his fusion cannon if I remember correctly.
9:55 we should also consider that he could be used to pain since he is abused by Megatron or that the blast was not as painful as Megatron's beatings (this poor bot needs to be saved)
I think the reason starscream can see behind him in jet mode is because his fighter jet contains an RWR (radar warning reciever) which is made to alert the pilot of incoming threats from all around the aircraft Hes most likely using this to dodge shots and look behind him in jet mode
When Starscream's T-cog was stolen he clutched his left side but Bumblebees t-cog was removed from his right side. My theory is that the placement of the T-cog determines what you'd become. If your T-cog is on your left side you become an aircraft but if your T-cog is on your right side you become a ground vehicle such as a car or a tank. If the T-cog is in the center of your body you are a shifter like Makeshift.
Chris McFeely did a very good video on Transformer biology. Apparently, they have 7 or so senses but unlike taste, they have Sight, hearing, touch, smell, short range radio sensitivity, magnetic sensitivity and electric sensitivity. I would imagine that when they get hit with electromagnetic shots like with a blaster or a plasma cannon, they can feel it and the resulting emp emissions can short them out for a bit and stun them. Also, blunt force trauma acts the same it does to regular things where it basically jostles and displaces bot parts and can cause some damage that way. Transformium is an esoteric matter that basically is a mcguffin in a lot of transformer stories. I mean in Prime itself, it can basically form the planet itself so its a solid metal-esque material but when shot into the core through the omega lock in its liquid/plasma state, it can revive Cybertron? It makes no sense. Also, it is mentioned in a lot of continuities that transformers assumed alternate modes and alternate forms purely for wartime purposes. Before the Great War and before the Autobot-Decepticon conflict, transformers did not have alternate modes and used tools like any other human-like civilization. It is mostly shown in some continuities where Megatron was a miner before he ascended to be the leader of Decepticons. Also, you completely glossed over Proto forms. Triple changing and Beast forms were considered to be native traits and/or anomalies like evolutionary traits taken on to fit the world they reside on. In some stories, Shockwave or some sort of mad scientist basically experimented on transformers, giving them the ability to triple change and assume beast forms. But I will agree that there are some inconsistencies when it comes to how and why there are parts that are missing in one mode but present in others.
I've got a question. If some ground Cybertronians are able to scan helicopters and become flyers because they just need the metal to form the propellers and don't have to worry about having the parts necessary for the jet engines, what if they scanned older planes that had propellers instead of jet engines?
There's a clip in the show where Starscream asks Knockout "Why be an automobile, when you can choose flight?" so does this show he theoretically could actually change to a jet, but simply doesn't want to?
Best guess to alt mode sight? Radar or some form of motion sensor or echolocation for ‘Fliers’ and the mirrors have cameras or optics behind them as many grounded characters depict articulation as their way of scouting
Could you please make a video on TFP Soundwave? ex of topics for him:history before he was a decepticon ( if there is any); skills; uses; strength; speed; intelligence; rank; and last but not least, your own opinion on him, thank you , whoever read this whole entire thing! have a good day!
I made a character who can absorb and use metal as he feels needed. Even being able to use slightly rusted metal and cleaning it out. And he can forge any weapon and other thing. When he has metal he modifies his vehicle forms. And yes he has 2. When he stores up metal he has to use all of it as a storage system.
I think that maybe fliers have the choice to become ground vehicles, but not the other way around. The scene in which Starscream and Knockout meet makes it sound like Knockout chose not to choose a flying form when he could have, but instead that of an automobile
I think it would be fun to cover age, physical condition, and time in the Prime/Aligned continuity, as it is rather ambiguous about the subject as a whole, whereas G1 would sometimes state definitively that X# of million of years later etc etc. I think there is some ambiguity between age, maturity and physical condition for Cybertronians, that also likely extends to Velocitronicans, Junkicons, and bots from Caminus. Stasis seems to halt a bot's aging, but could still mean that they were forged millennia before another bot that was forged more recently, but has been in active operation for more consecutive years. Adding on top of that is how some individuals 'act different ages' depending on their experiences, with some retaining a carefree juvenile demeanor compared to others who have been thru trying ordeals that leaves them grim. The final thing that pops into mind is overall health and nutrition of the bot in question. It seems like hard-living, substandard fuel, addictive substances, and lack of medical care can "age" a bot's body much more readily than might otherwise be the case. It would seem to me that entering into stasis lock has fewer negative effects on the body than continuing operation for an equivalent amount of time, while quality fuel, medical care and harsh conditions are present.
I was recording what eras it seemed all the characters were forged in (info from the books). It is hard to get the ages from that, but you can learn you is older than who
I always thought Darksteel and Skylynx got hurt from the electric pole because Starscream was jabbing them right over their spark chamber. In my head, the insignia (autobot, Decepticon, predacon) is always right over the spark chamber which makes it more painful I guess? Also, Predaking is physically stronger than Skylynx and Darksteel as we see in predacons rising, so maybe that’s also part of the reason the pole is more like an irritation than a real threat.
I think another reason for why most Autobots are grounders and Decepticons flyers is tactics. The flyers would have an undeniable mobility advantage, allowing them to cover ground and flank quickly, making them better at attacking, but due to the limitations of flying, would most likely have far less armor and firepower, making them far worse at defending a position. The opposite could also be true, with the autobots having more armor and firepower than even some the grounded decepticons, but lacking their mobility. And the reason for why the grounded and flying Vehicons are so similar in armor and firepower could also be that the Decepticons, since their tactics are already focused on attacking, and therefore would benefit from flying, wanted to prepare all of their soldiers to be converted to flyers, even if it would still take a while until they're actually converted.
I always wondered how the arm was vital for Starscream's ability to fly. On that note, would Starscream still be able to fly if he only lost a hand and not a whole arm? I did write a part in my story where Starscream bites off his own hand to escape his restraints and flee, though he still couldn't fly because the stasis cuffs were still attached to his other hand, thus preventing transformation, so on that part, I guess it didn't matter if he could fly with one hand or not. He gets it back later and is then allowed to fly to help the Autobots though. BTW, I've been thinking: Are Cybertronians unable to transform if they are restrained and/or pinned down, and not just because stasis cuffs are of some special material or something? On that note, are stasis cuffs made of some sort of really strong metal alloy that maybe only the Apex Armor (or things made of similar metal to that one) can break? Coz that's an idea I have in my head, but that perhaps with a boost of Synth-En, the restrained bot might become strong enough to break free from the stasis cuffs? I'm just curious. 3:19 I'm kinda disappointed that we never get to know how Starscream changed from his Prime body to his RID body. Like, is it reformatting, or that "new metal attachment" thing you mentioned? Or maybe a body-transfer? Is there an official or sensible explaination somewhere about this? Coz I haven't found anything, and just because the wiki says it's reformatting does not mean that's what it is. Coz, you know, it's still just a wiki, made by fans and expert fans and stuff. So... yeah, while most of the info on the wiki is legit, this particular piece seems to be mere speculation and assumption. Perhaps the creators decided not to explain how Starscream got from Prime body to RID body so we fans could decide for ourselves how he did it. Reformatting, body-transfer or parts-attachment/whatyousaid. That's what I like to think anyway. So maybe I'm not that disappointed after all. *shrugs* 8:17 Come to think of it, how often do we actually see Starscream use his blasters? Not very often. In all of Season 1, he sometimes deployed it but did not fire it. In Season 2, he was unable to access it because of his missing T-Cog (though he did fire one when he rode that Vehicon in "Orion Pax", and when he blasted Bee's T-Cog), and in Season 3, as well as the first two seasons, he seems to use his missiles more often than he does his blasters (in bot form, at least). Starscream does seem to pack a lot of firepower, whether laser or missile, though in terms of laser, he might use different levels of power. Like, with the zombie, he was genuinely trying to kill it, thus using a higher level of firepower, while he might use lower levels against the Autobots or normal Vehicons. We do know Starscream is holding back on his true power, after all, both in terms of hand-to-hand combat skills, firepower as well as physical strength (he could hold up a ceiling of collapsing rocks despite his narrow body and light weight, and in the game he held a ridiculously huge power core without much problem). Starscream is definitely much stronger than he looks and than what he lets on. He might purposefully be holding back and act weaker than he is to fool the enemy and his allies, so they don't see him as a (big) threat, and so he can easier trick them and get them to lower their guard. Seeker Power!
Yes, I believe Starscream can transform without a hand. Some parts of them hide away, while some are vital to connect everything together, and the hand doesn't do anything important. Starscream can fight, as he used to do it well in the past, but he lost his confidence and now avoids situations that are life-threatening. He is mostly afraid for real (with Megatron), but he does make himself seem pathetic to lessen aggression toward him (whether to make them think he is not worth it, or to fool an Autobot)
@@emperorkumquat Yeah. But if he could regain that confidence of his, and perhaps suppress his fear of Megatron, then I think he could do a lot of damage. The story I'm writing is gonna end with Starscream and Megatron fighting each other, with Starscream having regained his confidence and suppressed his fear of/respect for Megatron, and he's gonna go all out. I'm surprised how few fights there actually are of Megatron VS Starscream in the entire multiverse of the franchise. I think the entirety of fights between the two, in both TV-shows, movies, video games, comics and novels, is probably less than 10. In all the TV-shows alone, there are only 4 actual fights between Megatron and Starscream, two of them in Armada/Micron Legend, and the other two in Cybertron/Galaxy Force. In the movies, Starscream never fights Megatron. I have not watched/played all the video games, but I do know they fight in at least one of the video games, WFC DS Decepticon version (where you fight as both Megs and Brawl, but will probably be fighting more as Megs). In the console version, Starscream seems like he was planning to fight Megs, but then gave up when Megs went into the Dark Energon reactor and controlled it. I don't know how many novels there are of Transformers, but I only know of that one fight in Exodus between them, and I'm guessing they didn't fight in Exiles or Retribution? As for the comics, I'm unsure. I've read most of IDW G1/2005, but as far as I remember there was either no fights between them, or only one or two fights in total, and there are hundreds of issues in that one. I've never read the Marvel comics, so I don't know with those, but I believe that number would also be less than five, probably one or two, maybe three. I'm just surprised that, despite how many times Megs punishes Star, and how many times Star sneak attacks Megs, actual fights between them are EXTREMELY rare. But those few fights they do have are EPIC!
@@emperorkumquat That's what I thought. He probably realized he couldn't beat Megatron in an actual fight and thus bides his time coming up with a plan that can overthrow Megatron. At least Aligned Starscream is more subtle than G1 Starscream. G1: Megatron: *speaks gibberish* Starscream: I, Starscream, am now your new leader! Aligned: Megatron: *is dying in space with only a shard of Dark Energon to keep him alive* Starscream: *pulls it out of him in a Scar-like way* And this time, STAY DEAD! Hardcore.
In Bumblebee movie none of autobots had wings, while 100% of all decepticons had aircraft forms Same in G1 In Bayformers only Starscream, Megatron, Blackout, Grindor, Jetfire and Nitrozeus (The guy from last knight) were flying decepticons (everyone else were ground vehicles) And this
it has been confirmed that living metal can turn non living metals into living metal so knockout could have brought a replacement door off of ebay or something and stole the delivery
I kind of feel like makeshift was experimented on. I mean, if he needs soundwave to attach a cord to him so he can download Wheeljacks appearance and voice data in order to disguise as him instead of being able to do it himself that seems like something that isn't natural for them.
theory, Megatron's legs form the purple gun thing in his alt mode, and his arms are something internal. as on the back of his legs are purple curvy bits
from these videos it makes me realize that the people of cybertron are more biological even though it does not appere as such because of the mechanical exterior which i find really interesting
I was just about to ask 3 different things but they were all answered in the video lmao. But great job on these, I'm surprised just how much you know about the continuity.
another question is size differences. For example Starscream is a Jet. An F16 is 15meters long and is 10 meters from wingtip to wingtip. He should be more than double in size as for example Knockout
12:51 i recall seeing airachnid transform into a full on spider in TFP i think it was the episode where optimus is about to kill megs but dreadwing stops him
My theory about the artifacts was that it just used nano tech, which it used already existing metals from it's self to create the armor to cover the host, as well as had it's own onboard power systems. I've never watched the kids show but I guess in that situation it was also created with the same nano tech, power supply, and T-cog, to change any ground based transformer into a flyer.
This is also what im wondering, nearly no autobot in both prime and movie franchise could fly, by what i mean is that they could turn into a helicopter or a plane. But only drift could transform into a helicopter in the movie, while no one could fly in the prime franchise
I like to think that in the part about where they can see in their alt mode is that they can see threw any reflective surfaces they have say like a mirror and window like a spider has multiple eyes they have multiple windows and stuff.
In Transformers G1 Optimus Prime could still transform into a Truck while missing his right arm. Check the episode "City Of Steel". His truck mode was also missing a part but still working.
About the power of the guns, I believed that as the guns are powered by energon, and the two sides looked liked to always to have a short supply of it, they regulated the power output of it.
I don`t know if this is prime cannon, but i can state that i remember there was the super secret "Six Clan", where his members all beared 6 forms, therefore, i recall they learned to transform into six things.
Okay, I have a question about Protoforms. In the "Armada" episode, we learn that Vehicons are created from "blank" Protoforms, which are apparently mainly used for cloning. However, since we also learned that the Starscream clones have their own sets of organs, including a T-Cog of their own, they obviously also have Sparks of their own. Now, firstly, while the Starscream clones seem to be identical clones of Starscream with his personality and full memory up until the point where he creates them, if they are to be the same as the Vehicon clones, that must mean they are, in reality, individuals. Since Vehicons have different voices, strengths and personalities, despite the possibility that they all come from the same guy (the original Steve, prolly a Grounder) and some are given wings afterwards, could that mean that, over time, the clones would begin to develop their own individuals, override their original's personality and perhaps even develop their own voices? Because the Starscream clones only lived for less than a day, we don't know how they would have fared if they lived longer, but I think they could have become their own bots, just like the Vehicons have. Heck, the Vehicons themselves might have all sounded alike when they were first cloned, but over time they wanted to stand out and thus changed the way they spoke and even started speaking in different tones, maybe even got their voiceboxes modified in some way to sound different, through surgery? Secondly, and this is my more important issue: If all Sparks have, as you said, come from the Well of All Sparks/AllSpark (except for Predaclones I guess), then how come there are blank Protoforms, WITH SPARKS, on ships, whose purpose is to become clones? Not even having a face, save for a tiny visor? Even in the Rescue Bots cartoon, all the Rescue Bots start out as Protoforms, not having any kibble, despite having been alive for quite a while and having lived on Cybertron and obviously having had alt modes before. But now they're mere Protoforms, not even able to transform until they scan an Earth-based vehicle mode. The only differences between these Peotoforms and the Vehicon ones are that the Rescue Bots have FACES and aren't completely drained of Energon. My point is, did the Decepticons just go out and take some bots, completely strip them of their kibble and tear off their faces and drain them of Energon, then put them in stasis so they could use them as clones? Coz that seems like way too much effort put into cloning. Where did the Vehicon Protoforms come from? Did they emerge from the Well as well (pun not entirely intended) or were they created differently somehow? I know you said Cold Construction doesn't exist in Aligned, but what god would just make these bots without a face or Energon and just let them be used for clones? Also, the way CC works is actually that the Sparks emerge from the Matrix - being tampered with - rather than Vector Sigma/the AllSpark, or maybe they somehow connected the Matrix to the AllSpark, in any case, the Sparks still come from Primus, just through the Matrix, which is also a sacred implement. The only reason it's called Cold Construction is because the body is "constructed" in some way, while the Spark is "cold" and only because they get frozen in photonic crystals to keep them alive, since thousands of Sparks could be made in a day. For army-building, much like cloning. Maybe CC doesn't exist in Aligned, and I'm okay with that. But if it doesn't, then I would really like to know what the deal with the Vehicon Protoforms is. Where did they come from? How did they come to this? Did something tragic happen to certain bots who were drained of Energon and stripped of everything to become clones? I really want to know. Whether in comments or in a video, if that's possible. Coz I think this could be an interesting thing to talk about in a video. Except if it's a short answer, in which case it's fine too. I just wanna know stuff.
I forgot to mention, I think with CC Protoforms and frozen Sparks, I think the Sparks melt free from the photonic crystals when Energon is added, since Energon is the warm thing in Cybertronians' bodies, and not the metal itself. If that's the case, the frozen Sparks could remain within the blank Protoforms for years until some bot stopped by, put his Energon into them, melted them free and then created clones of himself. That said, I'm not saying these clones ARE CCs, I'm just saying that could be a possibility if there's no good answer to how they exist this way. Coz I'm not sure if unfrozen Sparks would be able to survive in a body without Energon, which these Protoforms obviously don't have. That's why I'm thinking photonic crystals here. They might even just be Forged Sparks having been saved from extinguishing by freezing them and then putting them into new bodies and wait for them to be reactivated. It could still work, even if they're not CREATED as CCs but merely REVIVED as CCs of sorts. These are just ideas I have, of course. Ideas which I think make sense even if they're probably wrong.
AGAIN I forgot to mention, I believe that if REGULAR Energon was used for the Protoforms, and not Energon with CNA in it, then these Protoforms would most certainly have become their own bots with their own looks, personalities and no memories of anyone else. They would be just the same as if they just emerged from the Well. That, at least, I'm pretty sure is legit.
Yes, the Starscream clones are individuals. They acted as Starscream would because they received his memories, but overtime, they could have changed as they experienced their own lives. The lack of "faces" seems to occur naturally. Some random bot would have been used for the vehicon army cloning project. Rescue Bots were not protoforms. That was just the design to show bots before they reshaped their bodies
@@emperorkumquat Okay then, but then is it just a coincidence that all five Protoforms on the Harbinger are the same size and build - seemingly as Starscream, no less? I guess it is, considering it's easier to just copy and paste the same model five times. Oh yeah, I guess I phrased myself wrongly. It was late at night, so I forgot to say that the Rescue Bots are in their protoform state, that is, the protoform underneath all that kibble. Basically they're naked. :P Coz I don't think that's what they looked like on Cybertron. And then there are the Protoforms which are the first stage of Cybertronian life, like the ones on the Harbinger. Or...maybe they're just bots stripped of their armor until they're only Protoforms. In any case it's a bit confusing that Protoform is both used to refer to the first stage of Cybertronian life, their "bot form" in the books, and their "skeletons" I think, when they've been stripped of their kibble. Also, would the Sparks of the bots used for cloning be able to survive inside the bodies without Energon, since it seems they don't have any Energon, since Starscream has to use his own Energon to activate them? In any case, the murder of those five Starscream clones is just the same as the murder of the various Vehicons. In my fic, I had the five Protoforms be activated as their own bots, and then they had nightmares from the TV-show where they're Starscream, and the one who got killed by Bulkhead was really freaked out. But I like that if Starscream did not live as a rogue - whether dead, with the Autobots or still with the Decepticons - the Autobots would have gained the Protoforms from the Harbinger and would've gained an additional 5 Autobots, making Team Prime consist of 13 bots (14 with Starscream) instead of only 8. Of course, with more bots is required more Energon, so... that would be more difficult, and especially as they would also have to train the new bots.
Autobots originally didn't fly because they were working-class bots which don't fly. But the Decepticons were made for the military so they usually fly with acceptions of Megatron (Tank). But there are acceptions with Jet-Fire because he was originally a Decepticons.
I've got just one biology question that I feel like needs to be answered: Why do Cybertronians already look like the alt. modes they scan before they scan them? From an in-universe perspective and not because the writers didn't want to bother with making totally different body types.
From an In-universe perspective you have what is called a proto-form. Basically what defines a transformer´s bodytype (I belive that is how starscream made his clones.With unaltered proto-forms). When they scan something their protoforms produce the necesary components for the alt-mode. So, they shouldnt look like their alt-modes, but making a fully rigged model to basically be used for an episode or 2 is not worth it
@@emperorkumquat I understand, but then you have shows like Animated which actually change their body-types once they scan their alt. modes. Thanks anyway
I always figured their main body/plating would stay the same, while parts that are obviously from their current altmode change slightly. So if Bumblebee were to scan a Mustang, his doorwings would change to reflect his new vehicle shape while everything else in bipedal form stayed the same. It would also explain why Skyquake looked the same before and after he scanned Fowler's jet. :)
To be fair the Aligned continuity is rather confusing and barely seems like a continuity, so of course some things about Transformation will be... odd. One of the reasons I say that is looking at the Designs from Fall of Cybertron and the designs from TFP, which are supposed to be connected. Sure you could say that their forms drastically changed when they reached Earth because maybe their bodies were simply trying to adapt, how Shockwave's encounter with Grimlock left him with too severe wounds and he had to be entirely rebuilt and maybe even modify his body from a flyer to a tank... But then we got Wheeljack in fall of Cybertron and wheeljack from TFP who are VASTLY different. And TFP Wheeljack, in a nutshell, has been chilling in space for cycles, so his body adapting to Earth ain't really an option.
Omega Synth I wouldn’t say they actually had drastic changes, that the changes we see are from the differences in design style. We know Bumblebee didn’t have any bodily surgeries during the Prime years, but he looks different in Rescue Bots, right?
@@emperorkumquat Well, yeah, you got a point... Still, part of my issue stands about it being a "continuity". If you ever played Fall of Cybertron, you know exactly how Grimlock was in it, not only in design but also personality. Then we got him in Robots in Disguise and he's a far cry from his FoC counterpart. But Design-wise I think if the show had a bigger budget, we surely would see more cybertronian forms other than Megatron or even full on body model differences. One thing that I think helped FoC feel more alien (even though Jazz's vehicle form in it was actually very Earth-like), were the many glowy bits scattered around their bodies, along with the textures. Maybe that'd help distinguish between Earth and Cybertronian robot forms better? I mean we never see any flashback of them transforming in the Cybertronian years.
@@omegasynth2775 They claim apparently that the inferior Grimlock we see in RID is not the same Grimlock. Fans think he might have named himself after him like Megatron with Megatronus. The budget thing is a confirmed, that they would have made more models for pre-Earth Cybertronians if they could
@@emperorkumquat Ah. That explains it. Considering FoC Grimlock was a huge battle hardened Veteran and RID Grimlock is... errm.... He's... not very bright... Speaking of RID, I really don't like the art direction it took. It looks way less pleasant than Prime. I guess they tried the WfC/FoC style of neon glows & such, but it worked there because the scenario was darker and grittier, way more faded and industrial. In RID the colors seem a bit oversaturared at times.
I think when taking forms Cybertronians while not losing their old ones do have a hard time removing it. Also considering how Primus wanted them to be defenders against Unicron them taking forms permanently would be an incentive for learning about the planet their on "from the native's perspective". Think the Omnitrix from Ben 10 but on a one form storage basis. Also I think characters don't shed the forms because they like it over the ones they are born with ( unless you are Beast Wars Megatron).
I like to think Airachnid is a quadruple changer. Her Bot Mode, Spider Mode because of Onyx Prime and then she has her drilling mode. There were non transforming animalistic creatures on Cybertron and they can drill or smash through the metal.
Oh Airachnid doesn't just look different from Fowler's helicopter. She literally transforms into a completely different model. Fowler's helicopter was a Bell 212 Huey, whereas Airachnid somehow became a stylized RAH-66 Comanche!
also they could scan one thing and then go back and scan the old thing they just need a copy like as long as Bumblebee has a access to a 2012 Camaro he can scan whatever he wants and go revert into a 2012 Camaro
I love this new series I love learning all this stuff!! But how in the world can bots survive the freezing vacuum of space but they almost froze to death in the south pole?? (Or wherever it is I don't remember)
I have a theory that gives skyquake a reason for not transforming, maybe his vehicle mode doesn't work in Earth's atmosphere while megatron's was altered to accommodate the change. And skyquake knows this and avoids it.
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"Why dont autobots fly"
: laughs in Jetfire
laughs in AirRaid
Most people don’t know and just ask these things, which is why I said what happened
Laughs in Whirl
Laughs in Vector Prime
Laughs in Omega Supreme
Ah, what I wouldn't give to see a Prime with the budget and rating to show all of this. What a show that would be.
Just steal the movie budget
@@W_2.0 I thought just the same. If TFP budget was only 10% of Transformers 5 budget Transformers Prime would be almost ideal.
Just redirect all funding from every tf made after tfp
True DAT to c cobs torn apart n bots with proto n creation forms that would b awesome
@@meediamongergamemodder2302 I lost 50 braincells reading that
Wow, I just realized Megatron should not have had the fusion cannon in alt form with his new hand. Big oversight
Everyone makes mistakes
making seperate cgi models cost alot
@@anm4513 I can't imagine how painful those models were to create tbh, with the complexity level of the Prime designs
@@anm4513 Not to mention that in total I've heard that each Transformers Prime episode cost well over a million dollars to make, and there are 66 episodes as I recall.
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I have a theory to “pain variation”.
Most of the weapons they use can either be pea shooters or full-blast autos. The force of the different types of guns are different, such as Skyquake’s machine gun. His gun literally shoved Optimus 20 feet in human measures, but it was lacking in accuracy. Then, Arcee has blasters that were accurate, but it was like throwing pebbles at a stop sign.
Another addition to this theory is that some bots can take more of a beating than others. Skyquake was almost a tank, taking hits from the Autobots like he was Megatron. And this also goes for his brother. Starscream is easier to hit because he’s frail and inexperienced in hand-to-hand combat. Take that he has no sword or melee weapon except for his “claws”. All he has as an advantage is his highly-explosive missiles, which striked Predaking right on the back and stunned him. But then, there’s the Vehicons. Oh boy I don’t need to explain it....
Starscream is experienced in melee
I have another theory
Maybe the metals on their bodies are armour that can absorb energon blasts like Megatron's armour is made of best metal so he is never hurt by an energon blaster but some vehicons do not have that good quality armour so they easily get pierced
I think maybe for Arcee, a higher powered blaster would kick her back enough for it to be inconvenient during battle, because of her size.
I don't think Starscream is inexperinced in hand to hand combat. He's just a coward, who prefers running. I always wanted to see Prime Starscream fighting with someone seriously like the Armada version.
Very insiteful actually. This is a good point!
though not necessarily cannon to the aligned continuity. it has been confirmed in the animated series that cybertronians can intake inorganic metal into their body, and their biology quickly assimilates it into cybermetal or whatever they are actually made of. i believe this was also referenced in IDW, but i cannot confirm that.
love your channel, made me re-watch prime all over again with new understandings about the bots and cons.
*edit. forgot to list the scene.... oops tranformers animated season 1 Ep 15-16 "Megatron Rising"
By hard science standards...the metal that their living metal appears to be based on is scandium.
The properties match up rather nicely. Granted it's not pure scandium as scandium is a soft metal that corrodes quickly and is vulnerable to certain corrosive chemicals. Though I can see cybertronians being made of a scandium-aluminum alloy.
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@@F_NerdShark that's good
@@F_NerdShark for a basic start. Watch the G1 Cartoon, of course. Next, watch the G1 Movie. Next, Beast Wars. After that, go through the Unicron trilogy (optional).
There is a great RUclipsr named Chris Mcfeely who discusses different transformers characters, continuities, concepts, and mythology.
*the first two decepticons we see*: literally Gods
*all the other*: I die like stormtrooper
Great video, Emperor! Just a few things I hope might help: On the subject of how transformers might see in their alt-forms, you mention that they might have small cameras or scanners along their form, and how this might have enabled Starscream to see behind him. I think something to support this is that this does exist IRL. Most modern fighter jets have radar to help the pilots see beyond their visual range and warn them of incoming threats or other things, and a new fighter jet, the F-35 Lightning II, actually does have cameras all over its frame to give the pilot 360° visibility, with AR vision to boot. And concerning Starscream's size: he appears to transform into a considerably modified version of a General Dynamics F-16 'Viper' (his version appears to have a different cockpit design and extra wings), a light fighter jet that is very small even compared to other fighter jets in its class (fighters like the Saab Gripen, Dassault Rafale, and Mitsubishi F-2A (yes, THAT Mitsubishi) are marginally larger), so his size appears to be about accurate for his alt form. Just pointing out a few things to help, have a good day.
I always thought that Skyquake couldn't transform into a vehicle because it had probably been millions of years since he left cybertron. My thought has always been that being in stasis for that long causes a cybertronian to lose their vehicle form and be forced to accquire a new one
I have now, Acquired a new headcannon
Or maybe its like when you limbs fall asleep from not using them and he could’ve done some stretches to regain his vehicle mode😅
maybe a tad derpy, half asleep. maybe the t-cogs asleep like our feet can be on the occasion.
edit: oh someone already said that
That matches up with Rescue Bots fairly well actually. When they first arrived on Earth they had been in stasis for a long period of time and they didn't seem to even have any kibble (things like visible tires and windows in Robot mode) and didn't transform at all until scanning a new Alt-mode. So perhaps after an extended period of inactivity the T-Cog or other relevant organ 'forgets' the current alt-mode and thus need to acquire a new one before they can transform.
As to how they see, cybertronians with a military shape, tanks and combat aircraft, can see all around themselves because they come with a scanner/radar. Non-military grounders in vehicle mode see through their headlights and mirrors. It is possible, and plausible, that non-military fliers have 360-sensors like the military ones have as a flight safety requirement.
I figure that flight was far more common in Cybertron's past, as most Transformers we see appear to have some form of vestigial wings, most commonly reconfigured to form doors of their car Alt-forms.
"Even you, my blaster"
Dreadwing, before his death.
Also star scream may have not felt the pain because of the dark energeon as well as an adrenaline rush from the auto bots arriving
Considorig the dark Energon works like drugs, this would probadly explain how con his size and body survived with out SCREAMING after getting his ARM BLOW OFF (and Yes, pun intended)
But, they don’t have adrenal glands?
Tactical Lemon we don’t know that
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Question: In the episode 25 Regeneration of Season 2. Optimus says ''They're reconstruction, would require a level of expertise I do not possess'' Reffering to the reconstruction of the Omega-Keys using the Forge of Solus Prime. Yet Optimus was able to reforge a Sacrid Relic of the Primes. The Star Saber. Altough the blade itself turned to dust, the handle survived. Still I don't understand how optimus was able to reforge this sacrid item. Yet could not replicate the Omega-keys
I'm not entirely sure cause I'm not a MASSIVE fan or into much lore. *I don't buy books, I just watch shows* I think he was able to recreate the sword cause the knowledge of primes resides within him thanks to the matrix, but the Omega keys I believe were before primes and Primus created them. It's an artifact that could literally trasnform entire planet into metal and I don't think anyone but Primus was able to create them. He just helped it be able to be wielded by primes.
Plus, he expected Smokescreen to reforge the Omega Lock after he became a Prime
I always thought that too, if you replace a Cybertronian's body part, their body adapts to having that new part, and it too becomes living metal
This was literally every question I had for TF Prime. Thank you Emperor Kamquat!
For how they get weapons the war for cybertron games explains that when you pick up a weapon the bot sort of scans it onto their arm
10:40 is that why starscream makes a point of belittling knockout for "choosing" to be an automobile because even though doc knock was probably born a grounder, the decepticons mastered the science to convert grounders? Also, I feel like automobile might hint at knockout being autosexual especially since he likes the way he looks in steel belted radials (I know Cybertronians are ace but still)
Thank you for answering our questions :D
I LOVE HOW MUCH OF AN INDEPTH LOOK THIS IS AND HOW YOU CLEARLY WENT THROUGH IT ALL TO SEE HOW THEY ARE ABLE TO LOOK WHEN THEY ARE IN VEHICKLE FORMS
Love you and your videos, dear. Happy to see someone thoroughly analyzing the murder robots.
I think the reason Skyquake does not have a vehicle mode could be due to a few reasons. Reason 1: he’s been in stasis for a very long time without moving at all, so his T-cog could have “forgot” his alt mode, or (Reason 2) his body was not able to stretch and compact enough enough to transform into his Cybertronian jet, so, he had to scan a different jet to transform, or maybe it’s both reasons combined
When you said "the Tcog acts as a brain and tells parts to manipulate and break down" what happens if they do try to transform without it? Do they just get massively deformed?
We saw what happened to starscream, nothing happened but maybe if you try hard enough. Or does the cybertronian body have its limits on the flexibility?
It just looks like the body blocks them completely so that they don't get hurt, and they can't push past that
If I had to compare it to our own biology, I'd say think about it in the way that our brains limit our physical strength. Humans can exert a crazy (for a human) amount of strength in a dire situation, but it normally comes with injury. Our brains keep that from happening. If you try to lift something too heavy, you might feel pain. That's the signal saying "stop that" as a preservation method. I think it works the same for a cybertronian, except instead of it all being part of one central brain (which already does so much crazy stuff we don't ever take into account, not to mention that ours expire after 90ish years these days while a cybertronian lives for millions of years if not longer) it's relegated to that "secondary brain" that handles that entire function. Imagine if our bodies had the ability to break apart and reshape themselves? I don't think our brains could handle all those individual parts moving in such a fashion. It'd be like trying to manipulate a thousand fingers or more at once manually. A simpler solution is the T-Cog that computes the easiest and most fficient way to swap body shapes and manage the movement of all the bodyparts to reach said shapes, as well as store the information for those (the normal body with new vehicle mode assets included ((like the doors that make up bumblebee's "wings")) as well as the vehicle mode itself.)
Pardon the long ass explanation, I'm recently very into Transformers again and just binged Prime 3 days ago so I've had it on the mind quite a bit.
i guess you could say they just "breakdown"! get it? no?
@@aquatic682 4 years later brother and i indeed got it
Megatron as an individual for the "How do they see in their alt-forms?" question is easy, his head can be seen in his alt-form, on the top of the jet's superstructure. This could probably mean that he could use his optics. If you don't believe me, look closely, it's in front of his fusion cannon if I remember correctly.
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9:55 we should also consider that he could be used to pain since he is abused by Megatron or that the blast was not as painful as Megatron's beatings (this poor bot needs to be saved)
I’m actually EGO IDK but I switched account, I can’t wait for the 3rd video
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Indeed
rescue bots academy also shows that t-cogs can take on extra modes easilly with help
I think the reason starscream can see behind him in jet mode is because his fighter jet contains an RWR (radar warning reciever) which is made to alert the pilot of incoming threats from all around the aircraft
Hes most likely using this to dodge shots and look behind him in jet mode
When Starscream's T-cog was stolen he clutched his left side but Bumblebees t-cog was removed from his right side. My theory is that the placement of the T-cog determines what you'd become. If your T-cog is on your left side you become an aircraft but if your T-cog is on your right side you become a ground vehicle such as a car or a tank. If the T-cog is in the center of your body you are a shifter like Makeshift.
That's honestly a theory I can get behind
I just love this Q&A series.
Chris McFeely did a very good video on Transformer biology. Apparently, they have 7 or so senses but unlike taste, they have Sight, hearing, touch, smell, short range radio sensitivity, magnetic sensitivity and electric sensitivity. I would imagine that when they get hit with electromagnetic shots like with a blaster or a plasma cannon, they can feel it and the resulting emp emissions can short them out for a bit and stun them. Also, blunt force trauma acts the same it does to regular things where it basically jostles and displaces bot parts and can cause some damage that way.
Transformium is an esoteric matter that basically is a mcguffin in a lot of transformer stories. I mean in Prime itself, it can basically form the planet itself so its a solid metal-esque material but when shot into the core through the omega lock in its liquid/plasma state, it can revive Cybertron? It makes no sense. Also, it is mentioned in a lot of continuities that transformers assumed alternate modes and alternate forms purely for wartime purposes. Before the Great War and before the Autobot-Decepticon conflict, transformers did not have alternate modes and used tools like any other human-like civilization. It is mostly shown in some continuities where Megatron was a miner before he ascended to be the leader of Decepticons. Also, you completely glossed over Proto forms.
Triple changing and Beast forms were considered to be native traits and/or anomalies like evolutionary traits taken on to fit the world they reside on. In some stories, Shockwave or some sort of mad scientist basically experimented on transformers, giving them the ability to triple change and assume beast forms.
But I will agree that there are some inconsistencies when it comes to how and why there are parts that are missing in one mode but present in others.
I've got a question. If some ground Cybertronians are able to scan helicopters and become flyers because they just need the metal to form the propellers and don't have to worry about having the parts necessary for the jet engines, what if they scanned older planes that had propellers instead of jet engines?
Maybe that would be possible, it might depend on the bot though
Very informative and entertaining and thank you
Also thanks for answearing question about tripull changers, and can t wait to see more.... and now TRANSFORM AND RISE UP SOLDIERS !
Kumquat, I understand more now thank you for letting us learn from you
6:36 "Dino thing that sprays water"
He's a Brachiosaurus, one of the most well-known Dinosaurs. Partly due to Jurassic Park.
6:36 Dino thing that sprays water? 😂😂👌
To be honest it was basically a fire truck with added dino parts
There's a clip in the show where Starscream asks Knockout "Why be an automobile, when you can choose flight?" so does this show he theoretically could actually change to a jet, but simply doesn't want to?
He could have scanned a plane as his alt mod, that's what Starscream meant.
No, it was the reference to their ability to surgically make themselves able to. Decepticons have the superior technology
Yeah I don't think it matters I mean Megatron transforms into a number of things and he doesn't have any wings on his back
Best guess to alt mode sight? Radar or some form of motion sensor or echolocation for ‘Fliers’ and the mirrors have cameras or optics behind them as many grounded characters depict articulation as their way of scouting
Could you please make a video on TFP Soundwave? ex of topics for him:history before he was a decepticon ( if there is any); skills; uses; strength; speed; intelligence; rank; and last but not least, your own opinion on him, thank you , whoever read this whole entire thing! have a good day!
I love your uploads
Haven't watched one of your video's in a while... God I forgot how much I loved your channel!
Powerglide: why didn't I come back again in any Transformers Cartoon ?
I made a character who can absorb and use metal as he feels needed. Even being able to use slightly rusted metal and cleaning it out. And he can forge any weapon and other thing. When he has metal he modifies his vehicle forms. And yes he has 2. When he stores up metal he has to use all of it as a storage system.
Love the captions. Keep em up lol
I think that maybe fliers have the choice to become ground vehicles, but not the other way around. The scene in which Starscream and Knockout meet makes it sound like Knockout chose not to choose a flying form when he could have, but instead that of an automobile
I imagine if they turn into ground vehicles they would have thrusters instead of internal engines.
Beautiful explanation of the continuity errors.
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I wish they would release a collectors edition of all 3 seasons and the movie with all the censored stuff and removed designs added
I would buy that.
YES!! Sign me up for a copy of THAT please! XD
I don’t think there were removed designs as much as designs never created.
I think it would be fun to cover age, physical condition, and time in the Prime/Aligned continuity, as it is rather ambiguous about the subject as a whole, whereas G1 would sometimes state definitively that X# of million of years later etc etc. I think there is some ambiguity between age, maturity and physical condition for Cybertronians, that also likely extends to Velocitronicans, Junkicons, and bots from Caminus. Stasis seems to halt a bot's aging, but could still mean that they were forged millennia before another bot that was forged more recently, but has been in active operation for more consecutive years. Adding on top of that is how some individuals 'act different ages' depending on their experiences, with some retaining a carefree juvenile demeanor compared to others who have been thru trying ordeals that leaves them grim. The final thing that pops into mind is overall health and nutrition of the bot in question. It seems like hard-living, substandard fuel, addictive substances, and lack of medical care can "age" a bot's body much more readily than might otherwise be the case. It would seem to me that entering into stasis lock has fewer negative effects on the body than continuing operation for an equivalent amount of time, while quality fuel, medical care and harsh conditions are present.
I was recording what eras it seemed all the characters were forged in (info from the books). It is hard to get the ages from that, but you can learn you is older than who
I always thought Darksteel and Skylynx got hurt from the electric pole because Starscream was jabbing them right over their spark chamber. In my head, the insignia (autobot, Decepticon, predacon) is always right over the spark chamber which makes it more painful I guess? Also, Predaking is physically stronger than Skylynx and Darksteel as we see in predacons rising, so maybe that’s also part of the reason the pole is more like an irritation than a real threat.
My the only one who has noticed that when Shockwave transforms his head goes into his gun
I think another reason for why most Autobots are grounders and Decepticons flyers is tactics.
The flyers would have an undeniable mobility advantage, allowing them to cover ground and flank quickly, making them better at attacking, but due to the limitations of flying, would most likely have far less armor and firepower, making them far worse at defending a position.
The opposite could also be true, with the autobots having more armor and firepower than even some the grounded decepticons, but lacking their mobility.
And the reason for why the grounded and flying Vehicons are so similar in armor and firepower could also be that the Decepticons, since their tactics are already focused on attacking, and therefore would benefit from flying, wanted to prepare all of their soldiers to be converted to flyers, even if it would still take a while until they're actually converted.
I love the explanations you gave in this video, especially on why autobots can’t fly. I always wondered why!
I always wondered how the arm was vital for Starscream's ability to fly.
On that note, would Starscream still be able to fly if he only lost a hand and not a whole arm?
I did write a part in my story where Starscream bites off his own hand to escape his restraints and flee, though he still couldn't fly because the stasis cuffs were still attached to his other hand, thus preventing transformation, so on that part, I guess it didn't matter if he could fly with one hand or not. He gets it back later and is then allowed to fly to help the Autobots though.
BTW, I've been thinking:
Are Cybertronians unable to transform if they are restrained and/or pinned down, and not just because stasis cuffs are of some special material or something?
On that note, are stasis cuffs made of some sort of really strong metal alloy that maybe only the Apex Armor (or things made of similar metal to that one) can break? Coz that's an idea I have in my head, but that perhaps with a boost of Synth-En, the restrained bot might become strong enough to break free from the stasis cuffs? I'm just curious.
3:19 I'm kinda disappointed that we never get to know how Starscream changed from his Prime body to his RID body. Like, is it reformatting, or that "new metal attachment" thing you mentioned? Or maybe a body-transfer?
Is there an official or sensible explaination somewhere about this? Coz I haven't found anything, and just because the wiki says it's reformatting does not mean that's what it is. Coz, you know, it's still just a wiki, made by fans and expert fans and stuff. So... yeah, while most of the info on the wiki is legit, this particular piece seems to be mere speculation and assumption.
Perhaps the creators decided not to explain how Starscream got from Prime body to RID body so we fans could decide for ourselves how he did it. Reformatting, body-transfer or parts-attachment/whatyousaid.
That's what I like to think anyway. So maybe I'm not that disappointed after all. *shrugs*
8:17 Come to think of it, how often do we actually see Starscream use his blasters? Not very often. In all of Season 1, he sometimes deployed it but did not fire it. In Season 2, he was unable to access it because of his missing T-Cog (though he did fire one when he rode that Vehicon in "Orion Pax", and when he blasted Bee's T-Cog), and in Season 3, as well as the first two seasons, he seems to use his missiles more often than he does his blasters (in bot form, at least).
Starscream does seem to pack a lot of firepower, whether laser or missile, though in terms of laser, he might use different levels of power. Like, with the zombie, he was genuinely trying to kill it, thus using a higher level of firepower, while he might use lower levels against the Autobots or normal Vehicons.
We do know Starscream is holding back on his true power, after all, both in terms of hand-to-hand combat skills, firepower as well as physical strength (he could hold up a ceiling of collapsing rocks despite his narrow body and light weight, and in the game he held a ridiculously huge power core without much problem).
Starscream is definitely much stronger than he looks and than what he lets on. He might purposefully be holding back and act weaker than he is to fool the enemy and his allies, so they don't see him as a (big) threat, and so he can easier trick them and get them to lower their guard.
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Yes, I believe Starscream can transform without a hand. Some parts of them hide away, while some are vital to connect everything together, and the hand doesn't do anything important.
Starscream can fight, as he used to do it well in the past, but he lost his confidence and now avoids situations that are life-threatening. He is mostly afraid for real (with Megatron), but he does make himself seem pathetic to lessen aggression toward him (whether to make them think he is not worth it, or to fool an Autobot)
@@emperorkumquat Yeah. But if he could regain that confidence of his, and perhaps suppress his fear of Megatron, then I think he could do a lot of damage.
The story I'm writing is gonna end with Starscream and Megatron fighting each other, with Starscream having regained his confidence and suppressed his fear of/respect for Megatron, and he's gonna go all out.
I'm surprised how few fights there actually are of Megatron VS Starscream in the entire multiverse of the franchise. I think the entirety of fights between the two, in both TV-shows, movies, video games, comics and novels, is probably less than 10.
In all the TV-shows alone, there are only 4 actual fights between Megatron and Starscream, two of them in Armada/Micron Legend, and the other two in Cybertron/Galaxy Force.
In the movies, Starscream never fights Megatron. I have not watched/played all the video games, but I do know they fight in at least one of the video games, WFC DS Decepticon version (where you fight as both Megs and Brawl, but will probably be fighting more as Megs).
In the console version, Starscream seems like he was planning to fight Megs, but then gave up when Megs went into the Dark Energon reactor and controlled it.
I don't know how many novels there are of Transformers, but I only know of that one fight in Exodus between them, and I'm guessing they didn't fight in Exiles or Retribution?
As for the comics, I'm unsure. I've read most of IDW G1/2005, but as far as I remember there was either no fights between them, or only one or two fights in total, and there are hundreds of issues in that one.
I've never read the Marvel comics, so I don't know with those, but I believe that number would also be less than five, probably one or two, maybe three.
I'm just surprised that, despite how many times Megs punishes Star, and how many times Star sneak attacks Megs, actual fights between them are EXTREMELY rare.
But those few fights they do have are EPIC!
@@Rubywing4 No Starscream doesn't try to fight Megatron again after Exodus. He just gave up on it
@@emperorkumquat That's what I thought.
He probably realized he couldn't beat Megatron in an actual fight and thus bides his time coming up with a plan that can overthrow Megatron.
At least Aligned Starscream is more subtle than G1 Starscream.
G1:
Megatron: *speaks gibberish*
Starscream: I, Starscream, am now your new leader!
Aligned:
Megatron: *is dying in space with only a shard of Dark Energon to keep him alive*
Starscream: *pulls it out of him in a Scar-like way* And this time, STAY DEAD!
Hardcore.
8:11 it depends on plot armor
The live action movies are the best examples of scanning and gaining new parts
jetfire:AM I A JOKE TO YOU
In Bumblebee movie none of autobots had wings, while 100% of all decepticons had aircraft forms
Same in G1
In Bayformers only Starscream, Megatron, Blackout, Grindor, Jetfire and Nitrozeus (The guy from last knight) were flying decepticons (everyone else were ground vehicles)
And this
it has been confirmed that living metal can turn non living metals into living metal so knockout could have brought a replacement door off of ebay or something and stole the delivery
Thank you for answering my question!
I kind of feel like makeshift was experimented on. I mean, if he needs soundwave to attach a cord to him so he can download Wheeljacks appearance and voice data in order to disguise as him instead of being able to do it himself that seems like something that isn't natural for them.
theory, Megatron's legs form the purple gun thing in his alt mode, and his arms are something internal. as on the back of his legs are purple curvy bits
from these videos it makes me realize that the people of cybertron are more biological even though it does not appere as such because of the mechanical exterior which i find really interesting
I was just about to ask 3 different things but they were all answered in the video lmao.
But great job on these, I'm surprised just how much you know about the continuity.
The Twins from Darkness Rising Pt. 1 were obviously supreme badasses
another question is size differences. For example Starscream is a Jet. An F16 is 15meters long and is 10 meters from wingtip to wingtip.
He should be more than double in size as for example Knockout
12:51 i recall seeing airachnid transform into a full on spider in TFP
i think it was the episode where optimus is about to kill megs but dreadwing stops him
I would love a channel run by the rescue bots/ cadets XD
I think the autobots kept their earth based alt forms because that's what they used to. They've had them for years
I enjoyed the background music more than the video itself lol 🤣🤣😂😂
My theory about the artifacts was that it just used nano tech, which it used already existing metals from it's self to create the armor to cover the host, as well as had it's own onboard power systems. I've never watched the kids show but I guess in that situation it was also created with the same nano tech, power supply, and T-cog, to change any ground based transformer into a flyer.
This is also what im wondering, nearly no autobot in both prime and movie franchise could fly, by what i mean is that they could turn into a helicopter or a plane. But only drift could transform into a helicopter in the movie, while no one could fly in the prime franchise
13:43 my thoughts exactly
Almost everything can be explained simply by, “Nanomachines, son.”
I like to think that in the part about where they can see in their alt mode is that they can see threw any reflective surfaces they have say like a mirror and window like a spider has multiple eyes they have multiple windows and stuff.
In Transformers G1 Optimus Prime could still transform into a Truck while missing his right arm. Check the episode "City Of Steel". His truck mode was also missing a part but still working.
4:08 First of all, I can SMELL that book. second of all, I think I have that book!
About the power of the guns, I believed that as the guns are powered by energon, and the two sides looked liked to always to have a short supply of it, they regulated the power output of it.
Your voice sounds kinda like Daria's and I love it
I don`t know if this is prime cannon, but i can state that i remember there was the super secret "Six Clan", where his members all beared 6 forms, therefore, i recall they learned to transform into six things.
Okay, I have a question about Protoforms.
In the "Armada" episode, we learn that Vehicons are created from "blank" Protoforms, which are apparently mainly used for cloning.
However, since we also learned that the Starscream clones have their own sets of organs, including a T-Cog of their own, they obviously also have Sparks of their own.
Now, firstly, while the Starscream clones seem to be identical clones of Starscream with his personality and full memory up until the point where he creates them, if they are to be the same as the Vehicon clones, that must mean they are, in reality, individuals.
Since Vehicons have different voices, strengths and personalities, despite the possibility that they all come from the same guy (the original Steve, prolly a Grounder) and some are given wings afterwards, could that mean that, over time, the clones would begin to develop their own individuals, override their original's personality and perhaps even develop their own voices?
Because the Starscream clones only lived for less than a day, we don't know how they would have fared if they lived longer, but I think they could have become their own bots, just like the Vehicons have. Heck, the Vehicons themselves might have all sounded alike when they were first cloned, but over time they wanted to stand out and thus changed the way they spoke and even started speaking in different tones, maybe even got their voiceboxes modified in some way to sound different, through surgery?
Secondly, and this is my more important issue:
If all Sparks have, as you said, come from the Well of All Sparks/AllSpark (except for Predaclones I guess), then how come there are blank Protoforms, WITH SPARKS, on ships, whose purpose is to become clones? Not even having a face, save for a tiny visor?
Even in the Rescue Bots cartoon, all the Rescue Bots start out as Protoforms, not having any kibble, despite having been alive for quite a while and having lived on Cybertron and obviously having had alt modes before. But now they're mere Protoforms, not even able to transform until they scan an Earth-based vehicle mode. The only differences between these Peotoforms and the Vehicon ones are that the Rescue Bots have FACES and aren't completely drained of Energon.
My point is, did the Decepticons just go out and take some bots, completely strip them of their kibble and tear off their faces and drain them of Energon, then put them in stasis so they could use them as clones? Coz that seems like way too much effort put into cloning.
Where did the Vehicon Protoforms come from? Did they emerge from the Well as well (pun not entirely intended) or were they created differently somehow?
I know you said Cold Construction doesn't exist in Aligned, but what god would just make these bots without a face or Energon and just let them be used for clones?
Also, the way CC works is actually that the Sparks emerge from the Matrix - being tampered with - rather than Vector Sigma/the AllSpark, or maybe they somehow connected the Matrix to the AllSpark, in any case, the Sparks still come from Primus, just through the Matrix, which is also a sacred implement. The only reason it's called Cold Construction is because the body is "constructed" in some way, while the Spark is "cold" and only because they get frozen in photonic crystals to keep them alive, since thousands of Sparks could be made in a day. For army-building, much like cloning.
Maybe CC doesn't exist in Aligned, and I'm okay with that.
But if it doesn't, then I would really like to know what the deal with the Vehicon Protoforms is.
Where did they come from? How did they come to this? Did something tragic happen to certain bots who were drained of Energon and stripped of everything to become clones?
I really want to know.
Whether in comments or in a video, if that's possible.
Coz I think this could be an interesting thing to talk about in a video.
Except if it's a short answer, in which case it's fine too. I just wanna know stuff.
I forgot to mention, I think with CC Protoforms and frozen Sparks, I think the Sparks melt free from the photonic crystals when Energon is added, since Energon is the warm thing in Cybertronians' bodies, and not the metal itself.
If that's the case, the frozen Sparks could remain within the blank Protoforms for years until some bot stopped by, put his Energon into them, melted them free and then created clones of himself.
That said, I'm not saying these clones ARE CCs, I'm just saying that could be a possibility if there's no good answer to how they exist this way.
Coz I'm not sure if unfrozen Sparks would be able to survive in a body without Energon, which these Protoforms obviously don't have.
That's why I'm thinking photonic crystals here.
They might even just be Forged Sparks having been saved from extinguishing by freezing them and then putting them into new bodies and wait for them to be reactivated. It could still work, even if they're not CREATED as CCs but merely REVIVED as CCs of sorts.
These are just ideas I have, of course. Ideas which I think make sense even if they're probably wrong.
AGAIN I forgot to mention, I believe that if REGULAR Energon was used for the Protoforms, and not Energon with CNA in it, then these Protoforms would most certainly have become their own bots with their own looks, personalities and no memories of anyone else. They would be just the same as if they just emerged from the Well.
That, at least, I'm pretty sure is legit.
I wrote all this around 1AM within 20 minutes, on my phone.
I have way too much energy lol
Yes, the Starscream clones are individuals. They acted as Starscream would because they received his memories, but overtime, they could have changed as they experienced their own lives.
The lack of "faces" seems to occur naturally. Some random bot would have been used for the vehicon army cloning project.
Rescue Bots were not protoforms. That was just the design to show bots before they reshaped their bodies
@@emperorkumquat Okay then, but then is it just a coincidence that all five Protoforms on the Harbinger are the same size and build - seemingly as Starscream, no less?
I guess it is, considering it's easier to just copy and paste the same model five times.
Oh yeah, I guess I phrased myself wrongly.
It was late at night, so I forgot to say that the Rescue Bots are in their protoform state, that is, the protoform underneath all that kibble. Basically they're naked. :P
Coz I don't think that's what they looked like on Cybertron.
And then there are the Protoforms which are the first stage of Cybertronian life, like the ones on the Harbinger. Or...maybe they're just bots stripped of their armor until they're only Protoforms.
In any case it's a bit confusing that Protoform is both used to refer to the first stage of Cybertronian life, their "bot form" in the books, and their "skeletons" I think, when they've been stripped of their kibble.
Also, would the Sparks of the bots used for cloning be able to survive inside the bodies without Energon, since it seems they don't have any Energon, since Starscream has to use his own Energon to activate them?
In any case, the murder of those five Starscream clones is just the same as the murder of the various Vehicons.
In my fic, I had the five Protoforms be activated as their own bots, and then they had nightmares from the TV-show where they're Starscream, and the one who got killed by Bulkhead was really freaked out.
But I like that if Starscream did not live as a rogue - whether dead, with the Autobots or still with the Decepticons - the Autobots would have gained the Protoforms from the Harbinger and would've gained an additional 5 Autobots, making Team Prime consist of 13 bots (14 with Starscream) instead of only 8.
Of course, with more bots is required more Energon, so... that would be more difficult, and especially as they would also have to train the new bots.
Autobots originally didn't fly because they were working-class bots which don't fly. But the Decepticons were made for the military so they usually fly with acceptions of Megatron (Tank). But there are acceptions with Jet-Fire because he was originally a Decepticons.
WebMotions That is G1. This is Aligned Continuity so that is not correct
I've got just one biology question that I feel like needs to be answered: Why do Cybertronians already look like the alt. modes they scan before they scan them? From an in-universe perspective and not because the writers didn't want to bother with making totally different body types.
The point was that what we see isn't accurate to what is in-universe. Their bodies are different
From an In-universe perspective you have what is called a proto-form. Basically what defines a transformer´s bodytype (I belive that is how starscream made his clones.With unaltered proto-forms). When they scan something their protoforms produce the necesary components for the alt-mode. So, they shouldnt look like their alt-modes, but making a fully rigged model to basically be used for an episode or 2 is not worth it
@@emperorkumquat I understand, but then you have shows like Animated which actually change their body-types once they scan their alt. modes. Thanks anyway
Captain Fordo It does suck a little that we didn’t get to see it
I always figured their main body/plating would stay the same, while parts that are obviously from their current altmode change slightly. So if Bumblebee were to scan a Mustang, his doorwings would change to reflect his new vehicle shape while everything else in bipedal form stayed the same. It would also explain why Skyquake looked the same before and after he scanned Fowler's jet. :)
My sister was getting so annoiyed about the mass change and transformation this should awnser her question lol it really makes sense though
Try analyze rescue bots specifically the first episode and the introduction of blurr and salvage
Fun fact while megatron had no arm he still had the cannon from what I noticed in my rewatch of the show
Why Dont Autobots fly?
Laughs In Windblade and Jetfire
i actually that arm belongs to solus herself since she usually has a pinkish color while maximo has a greenish color
To be fair the Aligned continuity is rather confusing and barely seems like a continuity, so of course some things about Transformation will be... odd.
One of the reasons I say that is looking at the Designs from Fall of Cybertron and the designs from TFP, which are supposed to be connected. Sure you could say that their forms drastically changed when they reached Earth because maybe their bodies were simply trying to adapt, how Shockwave's encounter with Grimlock left him with too severe wounds and he had to be entirely rebuilt and maybe even modify his body from a flyer to a tank...
But then we got Wheeljack in fall of Cybertron and wheeljack from TFP who are VASTLY different. And TFP Wheeljack, in a nutshell, has been chilling in space for cycles, so his body adapting to Earth ain't really an option.
Omega Synth I wouldn’t say they actually had drastic changes, that the changes we see are from the differences in design style. We know Bumblebee didn’t have any bodily surgeries during the Prime years, but he looks different in Rescue Bots, right?
@@emperorkumquat Well, yeah, you got a point... Still, part of my issue stands about it being a "continuity".
If you ever played Fall of Cybertron, you know exactly how Grimlock was in it, not only in design but also personality. Then we got him in Robots in Disguise and he's a far cry from his FoC counterpart.
But Design-wise
I think if the show had a bigger budget, we surely would see more cybertronian forms other than Megatron or even full on body model differences.
One thing that I think helped FoC feel more alien (even though Jazz's vehicle form in it was actually very Earth-like), were the many glowy bits scattered around their bodies, along with the textures.
Maybe that'd help distinguish between Earth and Cybertronian robot forms better? I mean we never see any flashback of them transforming in the Cybertronian years.
@@omegasynth2775 They claim apparently that the inferior Grimlock we see in RID is not the same Grimlock. Fans think he might have named himself after him like Megatron with Megatronus.
The budget thing is a confirmed, that they would have made more models for pre-Earth Cybertronians if they could
@@emperorkumquat Ah. That explains it.
Considering FoC Grimlock was a huge battle hardened Veteran and RID Grimlock is... errm.... He's... not very bright...
Speaking of RID, I really don't like the art direction it took. It looks way less pleasant than Prime. I guess they tried the WfC/FoC style of neon glows & such, but it worked there because the scenario was darker and grittier, way more faded and industrial.
In RID the colors seem a bit oversaturared at times.
Omega Synth Yeah haven’t heard anyone praising RID as better than anything
I think when taking forms Cybertronians while not losing their old ones do have a hard time removing it. Also considering how Primus wanted them to be defenders against Unicron them taking forms permanently would be an incentive for learning about the planet their on "from the native's perspective". Think the Omnitrix from Ben 10 but on a one form storage basis. Also I think characters don't shed the forms because they like it over the ones they are born with ( unless you are Beast Wars Megatron).
I like to think Airachnid is a quadruple changer. Her Bot Mode, Spider Mode because of Onyx Prime and then she has her drilling mode. There were non transforming animalistic creatures on Cybertron and they can drill or smash through the metal.
Can you do a video on why Transformers breath in the aligned continuity
Because you can hear them breath many times
Akbar Akbar That is in the next video~!
@@emperorkumquat Oh yeah, you always talk about TFP, are you a big fan of it, I'm also a big fan of TFP and think it's the best in the whole franchise
Akbar Akbar Yee
@@emperorkumquat We do have something in common
Thx for the info 😉
Oh Airachnid doesn't just look different from Fowler's helicopter. She literally transforms into a completely different model. Fowler's helicopter was a Bell 212 Huey, whereas Airachnid somehow became a stylized RAH-66 Comanche!
also they could scan one thing and then go back and scan the old thing they just need a copy like as long as Bumblebee has a access to a 2012 Camaro he can scan whatever he wants and go revert into a 2012 Camaro
Stretch, compressonate, break apart , reconnect
I always felt that glass and mirrors were transparent aluminum type material
I love this new series I love learning all this stuff!! But how in the world can bots survive the freezing vacuum of space but they almost froze to death in the south pole?? (Or wherever it is I don't remember)
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@@emperorkumquat 👍
I have a theory that gives skyquake a reason for not transforming, maybe his vehicle mode doesn't work in Earth's atmosphere while megatron's was altered to accommodate the change. And skyquake knows this and avoids it.