HOW TO BARSPIN ON A SCOOTER

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  • Опубликовано: 1 июл 2018
  • Here are 5 simple and easy tips to learning how to barspin on a scooter.
    A barspin is a very key trick to learn on a scooter because they can be added into any combo trick. it is easier and a bit safer to learn how to barspin on the flat ground so I would recommend starting there.
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    The Five Main Steps to take away from This How To Barspin Video are:
    1. Practice the spinning motion on the flat ground.
    2. Get conferrable with moving your hand on your bars.
    3. Practice J hopping.
    4. level out and toss the bar.
    5. Prepare to land and roll away.
    Done: you have just landed your first barspin
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    I hope this How to Barspin on a scooter Video was helpful. Please make sure to comment a trick that you would like to learn bellow.
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    A quote from Claudius Vertesi
    "The Barspin is a very important Trick in Scootering, Once You Learn them you can add them in various Combinations!
    Learning New Tricks can be hard buts its so worth it once you land the trick you have been trying.
    The Most Important thing when learning a Barspin is the right Technique! Practicing the Arm Motion will help You throw, control & land the Baspin!!"
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Комментарии • 121

  • @arthurml-ft8034
    @arthurml-ft8034 3 года назад +9

    You are really underrated ,u are litterally the best teacher to learn tricks and u respond to the comments to help people with their problems.Keep up the good work. Love u man!

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +1

      Thanks so much! i really appreciate that. i always try to give as many good tips and techniques to help other riders learn how to better their riding. i'm always stoked to help ppl in the comments if they're still having trouble. i really appreciate that you and your positive comment

  • @Shadow-pz6um
    @Shadow-pz6um 3 года назад +5

    i tried this in one day and i landed it... thank you very much this helped me a lot youre the best!!!

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +1

      Much love mate! I’m so stoked to hear you were able to get them so fast. Comments like these always make me want to make more tutorials to help more riders.

  • @jasonpearlman6236
    @jasonpearlman6236 Год назад +5

    Learned bar spins at 49, still throwing them at 50. The in-place practicing really works because you build your muscle memory, especially the finite movements that work for each individual. I practice these indoors with a block of wood propped under my scooter, and throwing them over and over again really does translate to doing these in the street and park. One little trick: don’t just focus on the spinning grips, but also the spinning stem of the bars themselves. Also, compensate for accidental too-short throws by overcompensating your throw. Instead of a 360 degree spin, go for a 362 degree spin!

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад +4

      that is a great tip! a harder tossed bar is much better than an under tossed bar. And that is so awesome, at 50 you are crushing it! i'm about half way there, i hope i'll still be able to ride when i get there.

  • @kolestacy614
    @kolestacy614 6 лет назад +5

    Hey my cousin met you at Ollie's soatepark on Sunday but I have watched your videos and o like them alot and this stuff has helped me so thanks and keep up the good work

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  6 лет назад

      Kole Stacy they Thanks so much! So stoked to hear that my videos have helped you! 😆😆😆

  • @crpalo755
    @crpalo755 4 года назад +2

    Nice tutorial

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      Crpalo Gaming hey thanks so much! Really hope it helps

  • @JEN5342
    @JEN5342 6 лет назад +1

    Hi it's brayden from the skate park the kid with the kuda scooter after whaching this video i learned how to do a bare spin👍

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  6 лет назад

      Hey Brayden! So excited to hear that my video helped you with bar spins! Hope to ride with you at ollies again soon!

    • @JEN5342
      @JEN5342 6 лет назад

      Ok

  • @risto4803
    @risto4803 3 года назад +3

    Tricks I have done
    Manual ✅
    Fakie ✅
    Downside whip ✅
    180 whip✅
    Tailwhip ✅
    Heel whip ✅
    Double whip✅
    Downside heel ✅
    Feeble✅
    50 50 drop in✅
    Bar spin❌

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +3

      thats a solid trick list. now you just have stomp those barspins!!!!

  • @Archetypist_
    @Archetypist_ 3 года назад +2

    really helpful!

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад

      Thanks mate! always stoked to hear when other riders find my tutorials helpful.

  • @user-tu5nm7kh6j
    @user-tu5nm7kh6j Год назад +1

    thank you you have tought me so much you are the best probably the best scooterer ive ever seen nice

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад

      hey thanks so much for watching! i'm so hyped when shredders like you are able to learn from my videos. keep crushing it! What tricks are you working on next?

  • @gkone6722
    @gkone6722 4 года назад +2

    OMG! THANKS THIS HELPED SO MUCH!!!

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад +1

      Jan Hopfer absolutely mate!!! So stoked to hear that this helped!!

  • @xhhznsxhxbsjsn5197
    @xhhznsxhxbsjsn5197 4 года назад +12

    Every time I bar spin the scooter flies away from me. I don’t know what to do different

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад +7

      Xhhzns Xhxbsjsn try this! When you are standing on the flat ground. Leave 1 foot on the ground in 1 foot on your scooter deck and lift your scooter in the air. Now try to do the bar spin with 1 foot on the ground holding yourself balanced. When you do the bar spin like this, you will need to hook your hand around the bar as it comes around to keep the scooter controlled to your foot on the deck. This will help you a lot when you’re in the air as your hand will have the muscle memory of controlling the bar spin to keep your entire Scooter under you. Hope this helps definitely let me know if you still need any help, also feel free to shoot me a Dm on insta (@chase.rost) if you ever wanna show my how it’s looking.

    • @xhhznsxhxbsjsn5197
      @xhhznsxhxbsjsn5197 4 года назад +2

      Chase Rost thanks

    • @treybohanan4380
      @treybohanan4380 4 года назад +2

      Chase Rost So I ride goofy and I spin the bar with my right hand. Should I be trying to spin it the other direction with my left? Because every time I try and bar spin, the bar hits my leg/knee and stops

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад +2

      Trey Bohanan you got the right spin down. Since you stand goofy you’ll want to use your right hand to spin the bars clockwise. Best way to mee from hitting your knees is to push your butt back and make a backwards C with your body. This should help you make enough clearance to toss the bar around without snagging anything.

    • @SuperShipppp
      @SuperShipppp Год назад +1

      @@ChaseRostI love how you help your viewers and that also help me so thx(ima sub to do cuz I love your vids)

  • @ogo_king9666
    @ogo_king9666 2 года назад +1

    well explained Chase

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  2 года назад

      Yoo thanks so much man!

  • @jonathantebbe367
    @jonathantebbe367 3 года назад +1

    thank you very much, i bought a new scooter with a 600 millimeter bar. Evryone which i know is riding a skatepark scooter and they are having very small bars and they couldnt teach me it. but you can thx very much

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +1

      hey absolutely mate! thanks for watching. sounds like we have a very similar width bar, mine are about 610mm wide.

    • @jonathantebbe367
      @jonathantebbe367 3 года назад

      destroyt at the sunday my trampoline and have to learn it now on flat 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭

  • @botrods578
    @botrods578 3 года назад +3

    I am going to land double whip before barspin lol it’s so hard

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +1

      thats funny thats how i was too. i always liked tail whips better than barspins

  • @The_king205
    @The_king205 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks bro

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Месяц назад

      Absolutely dude! thanks for watching

  • @Duckymatser6690
    @Duckymatser6690 3 года назад +1

    you are the best

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад

      much love mate! thanks so much for the support

  • @botrods578
    @botrods578 3 года назад +3

    Barspin: addios!
    Broken finger: Bonjor!

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад

      ouch!!!!!!!! hope you alright mate

  • @nyxx7813
    @nyxx7813 4 года назад +3

    i broke my right hand so i have to spin with my left hand cause impact and control to my right is not as good as my left so i catch with my right. helped a lot to see the timing of when you throw the bar in the air its right as you hit level in the hop its just so fast thats gon take so long with my 27 inch bars bruh

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      Nyxx dang 27” is definitely some tall bars. And hope your right hand heals up all the way so you can use it for bar spins again. You’ll get em tho just keep practicing!

  • @Potatonpc
    @Potatonpc 21 день назад

    When I first started watching this tutorial I was using the wrong type of scooter and I was dumbfounded 😅🤣😂

  • @lucasustick8106
    @lucasustick8106 6 лет назад +3

    This helped me so much. I literally just learn how to bar spin!

  • @zv.3237
    @zv.3237 4 года назад +3

    hey so i can tail whip and everything but i am really struggling with the barspin bc i run bars that are pretty big and it gets caught on my shirt so i tried and lean back when i j hop to make more room but it still gets caught on my shirt or shorts

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад +1

      One option you could always do is cut down your bars or better yet have a second set of bars that you can practice barspins on. then once your comfortable getting them with the smaller bars, you can put back on your big bars. that way you can keep the muscle memory. Another thing you could try is attempting the trick with a supper tight shirt, that way there is nothing for your bars to get caught on. Hope this helps!

  • @berkutsukarci2425
    @berkutsukarci2425 3 года назад +4

    My waist keeps on hitting my bars, do you have any tips to prevent that?

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +1

      I’ve had that problem before. The best way to prevent hitting your wrist while spinning that bars around is to guide the bars around with your hand a bit more evenly. By that I mean, you wanna make sure your hand that is pushing your bars around is leaving the bars right as your other hand is grabbing to help prevent the bars from hitting your wrist. You can also add an extra grip to your bars to make your grips longer. I used to cut grips in half to help fill the extra metal on my bars.

  • @quincyparsadmehr7260
    @quincyparsadmehr7260 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for always responding to comments also why does my deck keep flying away from me i cant land it i get the bars around fast enough but my deck is way in front or to the side of me

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  2 года назад +1

      heck yeah absolutely! i always try my best to get to every single one.
      the best way to get your deck to stay under you is to pull up as you are bar spinning the bars. as you star the spin you want your guide hand to slightly be pulling up as it rotates the bars. you also wanna try to make sure you are level in the air when you toss the bar. this should help you deck stay under you more. Definitely let me know if you still need any help.

  • @Nettixxx
    @Nettixxx Год назад +1

    I barspin oppo I learned the opposite way that I whip and I had no idea you had to do it the same way you whip

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад

      sounds like you are actually doing it properly. you want it to go the opposite way that you whip. (example, if you stand goofy, then you whip counter clockwise, then your bars will spin clockwise.) hope this helps.

  • @devynstuff8203
    @devynstuff8203 5 лет назад +2

    Does it matter which way you spin your bars?

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  5 лет назад

      Trimint not necessarily, but one way will probably be easier for you in the long run. If you ride it goofy, the “natural” way to spin the bars is clockwise. If you ride regular the natural way to spin the bars is counterclockwise.
      Hope that helps!

    • @devynstuff8203
      @devynstuff8203 5 лет назад +2

      Chase Rost thanks a million👍🏻

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  5 лет назад +1

      @@devynstuff8203 Absolutely bro! keep killing it!

  • @lynxisbae3943
    @lynxisbae3943 4 года назад +2

    i cant keep my feet on the deck like i sort of jump of the scooter can you help me with that othrwise great video dude

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад +1

      lynx is bae best way to help keep your feet on your scooter is to pull your bars up while you are spinning. So with your hand that is spinning the bars around, make a cup with it and life up so your deck keeps pressure on your feet. Hope this helps. Definitely let me know if your still having any troubles.

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      Cohen Miller Videos so true, sometimes literally just focusing on it the entire time can help.

  • @thanos_lou346
    @thanos_lou346 3 года назад +2

    Does it matter if I barspin clockwise and stand regular?

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад

      The fundamentals are the same but it does make doing them in a rotation trick a bit unique. But I’d say learn them both ways, you been able to do bar rewinds like a boss then.

  • @P2.Misery
    @P2.Misery Год назад +1

    Any tips for Doing them faster and doing them air

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад

      best way to get them faster is to just keep practicing the motion over and over again. your hands will eventually move quicker and quicker the more you do them.
      You can also try to make your rotating hands closer towards the middle of the bar. sometimes this can help speed up the barspin.
      for air, i would recommend leaning forward a bit more than on the flat ground or flyout. this will keep you fro looping out when you do them air.

  • @tylerbrownvloggers6033
    @tylerbrownvloggers6033 6 лет назад +2

    Nice video Chase🤘💯

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  6 лет назад

      Hey thanks so much Tyler! I really appreciate it! Do you still ride at centerville alot?

  • @mustachk0bg998
    @mustachk0bg998 2 года назад +1

    chase i know i am 4 years late i already know how to barspin but i am regular and do them clockwise i just feels weird the other way and i dont wanna relearn bar bartwists 180 bar etc
    is it a problem that i do them like that

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  2 года назад

      theres not really a problem with that at all. Actually in fact it'll make some tricks like bar bris easier. When ever riders learn bars "oppo" first, it usually makes a lot of bar rewinds and techy bar tricks easier later on. Because if you later learn the bars the "proper way" then you are an unstoppable bar beast.
      I would personally recommend trying to learn your bars both ways. that way tricks like truck driver and bri bars with be easy because you can just change the bar direction depending on the trick.

  • @LsintoWs
    @LsintoWs 3 года назад +3

    I tried a barspin then fell and hit my knee and elbow but ima try land it today

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +1

      you got this! just keep practicing them and they'll get so much easier as time goes on

    • @LsintoWs
      @LsintoWs 3 года назад +1

      @@ChaseRost I'm still trying it and i have got alot better but i whent down my first quarter pipe yesterday😂

  • @SkywalkFPV
    @SkywalkFPV 2 года назад +1

    So I noticed you prefer your fork to be turned backwards, right!? I saw more people do so, what are the pro`s and con`s for riding like that?..

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  2 года назад +1

      I personally love doing footjams and nose mannys. Have my fork backwards really helps for those tricks. Also I love how the steering feels when the fork in backwards. The only downside I’ve noticed, is it makes fakies just a pinch harder, but not enough to make me wanna ever change it back. I always tell ppl to try it, cuase it’s free. And you can always change it back if it’s not your thing.

  • @BTown1979
    @BTown1979 4 года назад +1

    I just learned how to do a bar spin

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      Brian ahh heck yeah! Stoked you learned how to do them!

  • @TheKasik27
    @TheKasik27 4 года назад +3

    his fork was backwards.
    i couldn’t unsee it.

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      Listerous hahaha good eye 👁 😂 ive been riding my forks backwards like that for the past 8 years! Once I switched it, I never went back

    • @arthurml-ft8034
      @arthurml-ft8034 3 года назад

      @@ChaseRost why? does it help u

  • @panblanco851
    @panblanco851 Год назад +1

    I’m a beginner and when I trie to do it either I feet gets off the deck or I do it but I spin it too bad

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  11 месяцев назад

      an easy way to keep your deck glued to your feet is to slightly pull up on your bars as you do the spin. this will help keep your feet from slipping off. also try to make sure you are pushing your hips back. this will help you make more room so you can land a cleaner barspin. Im actually in the middle of editng a new updated barspin tutorial that adds quite a few more tips and tricks in it that will definitely help if your still trying to master your barspins. shouold be up in just a couple weeks

  • @whatupfam7638
    @whatupfam7638 3 года назад +1

    Pls can you respond what happens when your bars don’t spin like really fast like as fast as yours

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад

      Sounds like your compression might be bit tight. I would recommend trying to first loosen your compression just a pinch. if you need any help taking apart and putting your scooter back together, i made a video diving into my scooter on how to take it apart and put it back together :ruclips.net/video/FNqOfX0eLoE/видео.html
      if your its not a compression issue, it's possible that your headset is a bit worn out. if you want to snag a fresh headset to get your scooter spinning as fast as mine, you can pick up that same headset i ride here: raptureproscooters.com/collections/headsets
      hope this helps man, definitely let me know if your still having any troubles getting your scooter bars to spin faster

    • @whatupfam7638
      @whatupfam7638 3 года назад

      @@ChaseRost thank you also I might need to look up what it means lol

  • @hellocarl8019
    @hellocarl8019 Год назад +1

    My problem is that when I do the jump and start the spin I either slip off the deck or I kinda push my bars away from me😢

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  11 месяцев назад +1

      an easy way to keep your deck glued to your feet is to slightly pull up on your bars as you do the spin. this will help keep your feet from slipping off. Im actually in the mifdle of editng a new updated barspin tutorial that adds quite a few more tips and tricks in it that will definitely help if your still trying to master your barspins. shouold be up in just a couple weeks

    • @hellocarl8019
      @hellocarl8019 11 месяцев назад

      @@ChaseRost ty sooo mich for the help i honestly learnt it like a week ago thanks to this video❤️❤️❤️

  • @Oliviahunt2404
    @Oliviahunt2404 Год назад +1

    I already did that

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад

      are there any parts that you are stuck on?

    • @Oliviahunt2404
      @Oliviahunt2404 Год назад

      Hu

    • @Oliviahunt2404
      @Oliviahunt2404 Год назад

      A

    • @Oliviahunt2404
      @Oliviahunt2404 Год назад +1

      Jumping spin

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад

      if your stuck on the jumping spin, i would recommend practicing the motion more on the flat ground first. just standing and getting your hand motion down is so important

  • @quincyparsadmehr7260
    @quincyparsadmehr7260 2 года назад +1

    My waist like the middle of my body keeps hitting my bars what should I do?

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  2 года назад

      i actually talk about this at 1:54 you want to make a "C" shape with your body to make sure your waist is clear from your bars. Definitely let me know if you’re still having any troubles with it.

    • @quincyparsadmehr7260
      @quincyparsadmehr7260 2 года назад +1

      @@ChaseRost thanks so much

  • @cooperiamagoldfreestyler9678
    @cooperiamagoldfreestyler9678 Год назад +1

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    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад

      Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhi

  • @bruhdupfish4386
    @bruhdupfish4386 3 месяца назад

    my bars as so gadam wide and if i throw the barspin, i have to sit on my brake lmao

  • @teepy9852
    @teepy9852 4 года назад +1

    I am spinig to far my bars do a 540 an i can't catch

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      Y9. TeePyツ is recomand making sure that your hand is following the the bars as they spin around. You don’t want to just toss them and let go. Make sure your hand turning the bars is actually making the circle motion and that should help minimize the over rotation.

  • @nxxbs_btw5568
    @nxxbs_btw5568 11 месяцев назад +1

    i ride reg and naturally throw goofy

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  11 месяцев назад

      There’s quite a few riders that do the same thing as you. That is totally OK I but I would still recommend learning them the regular way too. You can then get bar rewinds like a boss.

  • @MasonMagee-h6s
    @MasonMagee-h6s 9 дней назад +1

    I’m saying this in the hospital (
    It didn’t work as planned

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 дня назад

      ohhh nooo! what happened?

  • @kirillsarko3809
    @kirillsarko3809 3 года назад +1

    Is it me or is his fork backwards?

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад

      yeah you called it. Good eye. I’ve always rode my fork like this. I personally like how it feels. It also helps with tricks like nose manny’s and foot jams. Also it helps minimize speed wobbles when pumping super fast.

  • @yc603
    @yc603 5 лет назад +1

    bars backwards

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  5 лет назад

      100subs with no vid challenge haha I actually just like to ride my forks backwards. I like the way it feels!

  • @Erik0824
    @Erik0824 4 года назад +1

    When I bar spin I land on my brake

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      sounds like you might need to lean forward a bit more. Also try to lift up on your bars while you spin them around. this will help you keep the deck up on your feet so you don't slip off and land on your brake. hope this helps mate, definitely let me know if you still are stuck on this.

  • @buch4rdt
    @buch4rdt Год назад +1

    my feet keep falling off the scooter

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  11 месяцев назад

      an easy way to keep your deck glued to your feet is to slightly pull up on your bars as you do the spin. this will help keep your feet from slipping off. Im actually in the middle of editing a new updated barspin tutorial that adds quite a few more tips and tricks in it that will definitely help if your still trying to master your barspins. should be up in just a couple weeks

  • @youwastaken
    @youwastaken 3 года назад +1

    Is it just me that rides goofy and is more comfortable with spinning not the way he spins?

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  3 года назад +1

      your not the only one, i've heard a to of people say they same thing who ride goofy. it has to do with wanting to catch the bar with your right hand. a lot of riders don't like catching the bar with there left hand. whenever riders learn them oppo first, i always recommend learning them both ways. That way later on down your scootering career you can do bar rewinds and combos like that super easy.

  • @emersoncanning
    @emersoncanning Год назад +1

    Those bars are so wide

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  Год назад

      yeah those were pretty wide. i used to ride my bars at 25" long

  • @JA-xo4es
    @JA-xo4es 4 года назад +1

    I spin it the wrong way

    • @ChaseRost
      @ChaseRost  4 года назад

      Thats alright the same fundamentals apply. but i'd definitely recommend learning them both ways so you can do them oppo and regular.