How to select an intermediate Greek grammar
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Intermediate Greek Grammars often present information differently. They all have the same audience, they have the same use case (classroom), but they don't do things the same way. In this video, we'll look at three popular intermediate Greek grammars and see which one is best for which situation and what the difference is between them.
Want me to review one of these grammars individually? Leave a comment below!
📘📗📔📙 Links to resources mentioned:📘📗📔📙
📘 Dan Wallace, Greek Grammar: Beyond the Basics
Logos: mntg.me/ggbb
Amazon: amzn.to/2thKeEt
📗 Going Deeper with New Testament Greek:
Logos: mntg.me/kmp
Amazon: amzn.to/360BQin
📔 Mathewson & Emig: Intermediate Greek Grammar
Logos: mntg.me/mathewson
Amazon: amzn.to/2xeKWrd
📙 Douglas Huffman, Handy Guide to New Testament Greek
Logos: mntg.me/huffman
Amazon: amzn.to/3IZubS2
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Timestamps:
1:50 - Introducing Grammars
2:36 - Wallace review
7:30 - Intermediate Greek review
11:00 Going Deeper review
12:35 Conclusion
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Please do a separate video for each book
I would go with the same publisher as the Beginner grammar you have. Like if you get Mounce, Wallace is a natural follow-up. Both are Zondervan, and it seems like Wallace is supposed to be the next step after Mounce's beginner.
I’d certainly appreciate more intermediate videos, including grammar reviews.
Wonderfully informative and detailed, giving great perspective on what the different grammars emphasize and why. I cut my intermediate Greek teeth on Dana and Mantey, and got Wallace years later. Really liked Wallace on his technicality. Felt it was more like a commentary on Greek syntax and grammar, a book one would use in a round-table discussion about various syntactical topics. So, I guess I'll spend my vacation money on a couple intermediate grammars instead!
Currently reading the Emig and Mathewson text.
Yes, review them all!
Great video, thanks! I’ve finished first year Greek and wondered where to go next. As a layman, it seems that Intermediate Greek Grammar is the most suitable for me.
It is a great text! Also check out my vocab pack if you want to learn to read. bma.to/gvp
Thank you so much for this helpfull video. Well done , Darryl. Since I use Merkle and Plummer as my beginning grammar I am especialy interested in a video about " Going derper".
Great video! I’m a current student of Emig and Mathewson and have benefited greatly from their teaching.
Outstanding comments with regard to the current Greek grammars. Each has its own place and purpose.
I'd love a follow on for Elements of New Testament Greek by Duff, which has lots of practice within each chapter to help cement the ideas.
I’ll ask him if he has any plans for this.
Somebody really needs to make a "Master Old Testament Hebrew".
Wait for it... :)
Mounce is a good text to use. I like his style. Easy to understand and follow.
It's certainly well written!
Thanks Neil for linking me in here and Sarah for saying she would like a follow on from The Elements of New Testament Greek. It is an interesting question. There is a new edition of the elements coming out over the next year, and it would be interesting to consider whether to then produce a follow on.
Great review. If I am using Wallace, I am using The abridged version entitled, The Basics of New Testament syntax, which also comes with a workbook. This way there is less information and more reinforcement. Also check out the older, a Greek grammar of the New Testament, a workbook approach, by Vaughn and Gideon, which will take you through 1 Thessalonians and 1 Peter.
Great video! What do you recommend to students learning on their own who have already finished Mounce's BBG? Should we go with Wallace as it naturally flows from Zondervan, or take advantage of the ease in Going Deeper with NTG?
I appreciate your videos, and your answer to this.
Yes an answer to this would be great. I’ve just finished a Mounce’s BBG and want the next step. I was going to us Wallace, but not sure now.
@ Alexander Lopez Diaz I have studied on my own from the outset. For intermediate Greek, personally I love a combination of Wallace & Mathewson. Mathewson is wonderful for introducing and overviewing all of the intermediate concepts that are needed. This is important so that I don't become distracted or overwhelmed or confused with endless details about possible categories of a form of a word and then miss the main concepts of how the language works. But I always use Wallace as a reference because I study a passage and consider the different arguments for interpreting the text. As Dr. Burling explained, Wallace provides in-depth discussion with lots and lots of examples, and also makes helpful and clear arguments for a particular view.
It depends where you want to go. If you're more focused on studying Greek, then Going Deeper would be ideal. If you want to read and study, I think Mathewson and Emig might be better.
Thanks for this. I knew Wallace's was dense for most beginning intermediate students. I need to sink my teeth into the other two.
After I'm done with beginning greek , what would you recommend as an intermediate book to get if I'm doing self study.
Great video. Good editing too!
What about Wallace's abridged version 'Basics of New Testament Syntax'? I read it in 2020, starting during the lockdown (when I also found this channel!). It was really helpful.
I also watched lectures from an intermediate Greek course. The text was 'Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics' but the course covered only a bit more than the material in the abridged version.
This video is really helpful. Thanks for making it.
Decided to frech up my old unused greek. Have been listening to daily dose but very soon running out of more verses.
You might have some good advice about where to go next.
No plan to preach, just to read for fun.
If you haven't already done so, my Roadmap to Mastery might help: mntg.me/roadmap
Hey Darryl, the Logos links for the first two books (Wallace and Going Deeper) are broken 😞
Thanks I fixed the Wallace link - the Going Deeper link works for me. Logos seems to be having certificate errors on their server though.
would you suggest that if you learned from beginning NT greek that you need to use deeper into NT greek because of a smoother transition
I'm not sure I fully follow the question, but we use Beginning with New Testament Greek and then Mathewson and Emig's Intermediate Greek Grammar because I believe it helps you understand (and therefore translate) the text well. I hope that helps!
Thanks Darryl, very helpful video.
I’d love to see you review Young’s intermediate grammar.
What about biblical Greek illustrated by examples?
Hi, thank you for all your uploads. May I know how you would compare Daniel Wallace’s The Basics of New Testament Syntax with Going Deeper Greek? Also, do you think the practices in Intermediate Greek Grammar is sufficient or do you have any recommendation for practices to accompany that textbook? Thank you!
Wallace is better as a reference Grammar and Going Deeper is better as a classroom grammar. Stay tuned for the next video for details. Going Deeper on its own has good exercises - but you want to have a plan beyond it, which is where I recommend downloading my roadmap: mntg.me/roadmap
I could be wrong but it seems like you are underwhelmed with the choices? Without getting yourself in trouble, are there any new books that hit it out of the park? Or correct my impression :)
I really like Mathewson and Emig, but there is not the same variety here, and each has strengths and weaknesses. :)
@@bma Thanks:)
I do have a question: I’ve read Wallace but would be interested to know what you recommend for advanced grammars. Is Wallace a sufficient intermediate and advanced grammar? Or would you also recommend students working through something like BDF later in their studies?
I'm not sure there is a good definition (or use case) of an advanced grammar. Perhaps you're looking for an exhaustive grammar - for which I'm not sure there really is anything. Advanced grammars are really just intermediate grammars with more detail, most of which are old and often out of date. I'll look at creating a video on this at some point though, thanks for the suggestion.
I'm using Wallace currently in my final semester of Greek for seminary. I don't like it whatsoever. It's dense and overly complex.
Thanks alot for the video
I would ask for a review of "Reading Biblical Greek, by Constantine Campbell and Richard Gibson.
I already reviewed that’s year or two back. Check it out: ruclips.net/video/qjPzQa5J9Eg/видео.html
I appreciate receiving your videos but they are too long, usually a minimum of 15 minutes. Your comments can be made much more terse without losing any content. I suggest you could cover everything in no more than 7-8 minutes.
My thought is make them as long as necessary.
I agree with "Biblical Studies and Reviews." Definitely don't make the videos shorter. If mastering NT Greek is important to a person, he/she will carve out more time to watch these excellent videos. All of us "make time" to do things that are important to us.
Thanks for your reply. I try not to make pointless rambling comments and we do go through videos before we publish them to see what can be cut, but often it doesn't amount to more than a minute or two without getting into issues that take away from the content. Do you watch all the way through? Have you tried speeding up the video?
@ Master New Testament Greek. I like your style of communication Dr. Burling. I don't find it irritating, and I don't think you have a lot of wasted words, redundancy, or going off topic. However, I've noticed that when I start listening to a new teacher, sometimes it takes me a while to adjust to their personality and individual way of expressing things. I think we have to recognize that every person is unique, and adjust our listening style accordingly. I agree with your suggestion of speeding up videos if the speaker seems too slow for us. I've had to do that sometimes, but so far not with yours. Your ministry truly meets a need in the church today, and I always thank the Lord for it and pray for you.