Been a huge Diva advocate since I figured out that Teus/Rhine + Goons ends on Nept/Double Toad/Dragite through Droll + Nibiru haha. Very corner case but the fact the possibility to do so is there, is pretty crazy.
@@morkes8420 Teus pitch Goons, search Rhine, Goons search diva. Get Droll'd. Rhine + Teus for Coelacanth. Coelacanth summon 4. Get nibbed. Normal diva, summon Shadow Squad. Make them both 7's, Gaios into Posedira. Poseidra detach Squad, dump Neptabyss and bounce Nibiru. You can figure out the rest 👏
Love your Video. One thing to note is, the way you arrange that prince combo plays into nib instead of droll, it's kinda a pick your poison kind of problem. Also, if you get drolled on prince you can't add moulin because dragoons has a seperate chain. Instead of shif, try greedy gluttenous it's better under shifter and also sets up insane boards
@Wanze2 it's definitely a picture poison sneario and thts also why I don't love combo tutorials cus u have 5 cards, not 1 and depending on the hand, u can play around a host of cards. Also, if u get rolled on prince, u just don't care low key, cus ull still have shrine and dragoons in gy, ull still end on 3 interrupts, (5 if u open infantry)
@@deepseaygo250 Indeed. I might switch to your combo if I dont have shrine in hand, otherwise the normal anti nib combo will do just fine. That greedy fish sets up icejade aegerine + kragen under shifter, and double toad + dweller+ king nept + abysslacia in the normal combo. Its main benefit is it being a lvl 3 tuner and the fact that it can revive rhine from grave to get into white aura purpoise without having to waste a pike for it. Occasional reviving a prince or infantry also comes up from time to time
@@Wanze2i think thats the thing if you build your deck right we are one of the few decks that can play around nib, droll, imperm, fuwalos and dshifter. Dshifter being the most annoying. Basically all handtraps that can shut a turn down. I love we can have an answer to everything.
@@DeepfriedVampire True, if shifter ever gets banned we are gonna be a top tier contender for sure. Even more important than the decklists though are knowing the card effects inside out. I've won a few games because of infantrys extra normal summon, hell I even won a game because of dragoons direct attack effect through an unaffected PeP. It has limitless options
I havent given up on dine. Im interested in how dine into squad interacts into Detonator. That might jsut be the play, but i would have to cut gunde as well to not play to many bricks and idk, gunde is of age and shes wiggling her thang pretty nice!
Let’s gooooooo ! I’m trying this list next locals ! It’s so cool to see your approach after all the testing you did these past weeks ! I really like the community that’s following you. We may not all agree with one another but we communicate really well ! No insult or looking down on someone because of his deck choices. We share are reasoning and that’s awesome! I also really enjoyed that during your combo tutorials, you didn’t tunnel vision on trying to keep mouling on the field ! A lot of players think that losing your battle phase is relevant but it really isn’t with all the interactions the deck already puts and adds on the following turn ! (Perhaps something you learn from Lancea control?! 🤣) Also, rip Lancia Control (you are not playing it next week 🥲) What do you think of siding Impulse instead of LS and Feather duster. Really good card into FS / Rogue decks and Maliss. It also helps going second to stop a nibiru from resolving.
“We may not all agree with each other” I love this sentence. We all have different ways to play the deck. Just shows how unsolved the deck is and how much more work is needed
Loved this comment man! Id say I still ike impulse and it may have a place. There are a couple other ways id like to try to play this deck, maybe rely more so on engine, less nonengine. Impulse would most likely fit into this idea. Idk, im still undecided and trying to find ways to enhance a deck was successful. The worst part about a deck doing well for me is the decks issues are more hidden.
"We may not all agree", "we communicate very well" and "we share reasoning" is something I love to hear... usually channels don't have such strong communities and being part of it, with other great minds who think differently than me but still in a smart way is so satisfying. The people I have to thank more for that are you, Lernonad and of course my man Deep!
Great list and discussion and theory. Have you considered running a second Coelacanth? Naturally, opening two of them is even worse than one, but at least opening one isn't an immediate death sentence, given that you also aren't running Abyss Keeper currently.
Dope profile again brother. Question, when you open Teus/Squad, what’s your line? I obviously special prince and go from there but was interested in hearing your thoughts when you open that.
@KRV-YGO its always the same thought process, what's the fastest way to ur win condition? Shrine into deepseaking. So teus will search for shrine, squad summon prince, no droll/ fuwaross?! Great, check for soft hand traps/ nib. Prince send drag/add drag and minstrel. Snipe the hand, search moulin. GG's
@@deepseaygo250 I think I need to change my priorities, I get so caught up in 1 form of a combo that I miss other lines that are right infront of me. Last week I opened Teus/Squad multiple times and found myself running into dead ends. Skill issue 100% lmao but I need to do as you said and just focus on getting to and resolving deep sea king. Sometimes I get too focused on JUST getting to toads and don’t think about how I can achieve the toads and more pluses by using my deep sea king eff efficiently haha thanks for the insight man.
Az-ee-mia is a new pronunciation I’ve heard for Azamina. You got askaan pronunciation correct. I know you probably don’t want to buy the card but putting Fuwalos in the side might just be the play to secure games against rogue matchups (or the mirror). And if you are feeling like Zealantis is not working out, it does seem like you can make a small presence through D Barrier. So you could play Abyss Keeper for when you draw coelacanth Also when is the regional? I have one the 5th but am probably playing Yubel assuming I get my cards in on time.
@WenLifeGivULemons the 5th in Rosemont! Yeah funny thing, I otk'd through barrier, mourner, FS trap in gy, and King Ceaser without zealantis. But then on the re-watch for a game I lost, zealantis might have got me there so it's very hard to say... I do think I wanna try abyss keeper, even though I don't like it
Love your list man, I’ve been watching all your videos since mannadium days (im still playing mannadium) I refuse to let it die LOL. Im playing mermail now and it have been very difficult to feel confortable with a list. This list is very close to what im playing. Don’t you think your non engine amount is too high?
I think the non engine count was alittle high tbh even if all the cards were justified. I also believe the deck can play this much non-engine. I will say one of my biggest take aways was the full engine hands did really well! So im rethinking how much non-engine is even needed. There will be more time to test and I will do my best to find my optimal version!
Nice deck mate, Id prefer if you go to your lancea control hybrid variant. but if this stuff works out so far indeed why change :D Love to see mermail gunde and abyssgaios I wish i could run them. just love to see that. besides that you would know my points :D 2x minstrel bar minimal, small world over one for one. stuff like that :D good to see the one diva. What I do like about your build not that you are investing more cards into the deepseaking I dont like that but investing into deepsea king as your play under d-shifter. I am very much looking into that. wasn't aware the fish lv2 could also be used in a combo line for under dshifter. I thought Gluttonous Reptolphin Greethys or fishborg archer for sure would be the only way. What else? hmm ohyeah for ryzal we need our gameciel which works great with small world too or Eria.
@sirdeepfry2484 i was actually laying in bed for like an hour building deepseaking/ lancea hybrid is my head. Idk if it'll take off. If opportunity presents itself I'll try something to tht effect. I also agree tht kaijus r very interesting right now and I think it's worth testing 1 since it can be searched so easily
@KRV-YGO facts, it is also why I dont play the card. But if your whole deck runs on coelacanth, it's better to have it. Going to test the card out myself.
@@KRV-YGO indeed brutal, middle ground is its target protection for deepseaking, and if u don't need target protection, then use its other effect, tribute the deepseakimg and banish an enemy card
Hey man, sorry I was to busy with school and finished your previous video today (after 10 days!) 😢 But honestly the only thing I noticed was the One For One debate and I stand with MarvinRed on it... tho this opinion is just for me, and I would play SW in this deck too (idk if you noticed, but Shif is almost a perfect bridge; it misses only Infantry!) But now let's talk about this deck profile... I see you went for a Coelacanth-based list, and on a first look I was skeptical; but MAN, I tested out all possible combos, under Shifter, Droll, even the "standard" combo (non-Coelacanth one)... your deck is awesome! 1) Coelacanth works under the worst floodgates this deck can suffer very well, so prioritize it over "standard" combo is a great choice! 2) To reach Neptabyss without SW you have 4 '1cc' ways, 10 with '2cc' (Dragoons, Squad) To reach Shrine without SW you have 12 (!!) '1cc' ways, 18 with '2cc' (again Dragoons, Squad) ...a lot more! Almost double! 3) You play less bricks (Virtue Stream) and you have more free slots in the ED (armor fortress etc)... also, you consume less cards in your ED for the combo! 4) Even the "standard" combo is super strong! (ends on 4 interruptions, more than enough XD) I gotta admit, at first I disliked your list when I saw it, but since it was YOUR list I was willing to try it out; that's the best choice I could've made! I even tried to search deeply for negative aspects, but they were so few and so well-compensated I had to just ignore them... I just couldn't believe a version like this to be this good! I never thought I'd say this, but a version centered around Coelacanth is better than the "standard" one! Gongrats my man, you really opened my eyes. So happy you exist! Merfolks for life!❤️🧜♂️
Just two things: I would maybe replace Chengying for Gymir cuz she's still the best Synchro 10; also, in side you should replace droplet for Dark Ruler cuz of you want to stop detonator, Desirae, Silvia etc... it does the same work, but without discarding, so better (btw, I know the field spell negate, but it's just that - you can bait it)!
@Redrockyt_ wow! Amazing, I appreciate how much u like the list and how detailed u r with ur thoughts! I dont think it's perfect yet, Fuwaross is probbs my biggest contender w/ this list. But I do think this list is a step in right direction. I know i need to at least pick one up for the regional. As for ur notes - gymir is cool and ill probbs test it once and decide from there. I have hard time giving up chengying for how offensive it is compared to gymir. My play style is just naturally "play to win" oppose to "play to not lose" Idk about small world.. i think I'm gonna die on the hill tht it's just not very good, and I'm not trying to lose tht hard to droll With dark ruler, I have 2 issues maybe. 1 is i thoight fiend Smith would play around tht and negate it, but I'm not sure. Dark ruler won't deal with dweller which is a problem, and I can't kill them which is a problem because while the deck can grind, it's gas tank is still alot low compared to other decks. I even realized tht chalice isn't tht good strictly based on the fact they can pop there dweller with detonator. I'm leaning towards droplet is actually a good card. I'm also interested in book of eclipse as I think tht card has similar marit to dark ruler except u still kill then. I mean who knows, I got 2 weeks or so to figure this deck out
@@deepseaygo250 Love your responses man, so complete! 1) I know Fuwa is a pain in the ass, but the only way is Thrust package and you know it... there's no other way. It's just that idk what to take out for em 2) I think Gymir is better not for the protection, but cuz the banish can happen whenever you want (unlike Chengying, who needs someone to banish something for it to use its effect) 3) Yeah SW gets hit by droll but 1. You can still search Shrine and if he drolls you you just special Coelacanth; 2. You also have to accept the most probable ht to encounter is Ash, not Droll. 4) The arguments you made in droplet's favor don't have loosing points, I accept the defeat XD I guess droplet is the better card after all... And I guess you can use BoE, but it can be negated by both Desirae and Silvia so not as good as droplet. At the end of the day you have to do your considerations, but I think discussing on it with someone who knows what they're talking about (me, you, Marvin and other commentors, not a lot but they're still there) is the right choice to improve our decklists!
@Redrockyt_ oh yeah! For sure, I love reading ur guys thoughts. We all have biasies and I do my best to see other point of views and at the end of the day, I really don't care I'm right or wrong, I just wanna win! Lol!
@federicoguerini9014 I saw the lancea control deck if thts wht ur referring to, but it's different of a play style for me to pivot at this point. I wish I had more time but oh well
Surprised to hear you think fishborg harpooner is a brick, it actually unbricks your hand if you hard draw the cealacanth. I play 2 pike and 2 fishborg harpooner as my lvl 4 targets and I think it works really nicely.
Harpoon, XYZ Shark, and Shif are all considered "Additional Extenders/ Bricks" to me. My main reasoning for shif being the best one is due to it doing the same thing all the other targets do except u get to play just alittle more under shifter. That one additional interruption u get can decide the game and yes harpoon can summon Deepseaking, Abyss keeper can do the same thing which I will be playing going forward. Personal preference for sure. I do like Harpoon offers some cool extension plays and dragite is neat but but I just cant ignore Shifter is hardest counter for this deck and shif is best suited to handle that card
I miss Icejade Ran and more minstrels, i would cut diva and probably megalo cut 1 anemone for abyss-keeper Perfection 🥰🥰 I was using a similar build, Askaan is goated
@@juanmanuelabregu1083 chaos angel is tough for sure! Mainly looking at non engine like droplet or imperm, as well as cards like lacia plus poesidra to crash, or chengying and get him fat
@gamakujira64e23 abyss keeper is being tested now and for the lvl 10 synchro. I'd say personal preference. They both have good use cases. I think the selling point for me is chengying is alittle more offensive while still have dedonader protection and is generic where gymir requires a water tuner. So u can't make chemgying with a hand trap tuner
@ I see, that makes sense. I’m wondering if you’d consider playing white aura whale for the level 8 synchro slot since it provides the whole board wipe. Of course you don’t get the shif recursion, but askaan is particularly bad into Maliss
@gamakujira64e23 I actually don't hate tht... whale can also assist in otks through barrier when r xyz lines r cut off. I'm just thinking what are we no longer able to hit due to whale only blowing up def. monsters
@@deepseaygo250 I was gonna say bagooska but it wouldn’t resolve anyway. I highly doubt people would start playing around white aura whale, and even if they did that could prevent them from otk-ing which can help if you get shiftered. I was mainly thinking about it as an anti-maliss tech, since all the maliss cards plus off of being banished, and maliss has a hard time playing around whale because they’re a link-climbing deck. The main thing I’m worried about it that it can’t out detonator, and I don’t know if this deck has many outs to it going first.
@MiracleMan9978 assuming ur referring to purulia, that's fine! I'd test 3 nib, 3 ash, 2-3 droll (droll is called by for enemy charmies) 2 belle 2 ogre, 3 imperm 2nd infantry
@@deepseaygo250 yeah also the new support does a very good job going second, i love that card, its a foolish, a bounce in hand and a lvl 7 to make gaios and posedra, insane card imo
@KRV-YGO i couldn't ask for a better compliment. Im hoping I can convince myself to try some board breakers put next but this is very nice. I recommend using deck count to 45. Testing 2nd infantry, tactics, belle, and Eria
@@deepseaygo250 Yeah after testing with the beyond Ghoti, you were 100% right in your comment on my vid. All the stars and planets have to align perfectly for deep beyond to actually work the way I want it to and it’s almost never worth banishing my whole board. But seeing how you used the other fish synchro looks WAAAYYY better.
![Easiest way to summon DRAGOON BUSTER MAGIA , Triple BOSS Deck Crushing Meta [Master Duel]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/yC_fOaOrwFA/mqdefault.jpg)
It’s refreshing to see something different!
@ManuelTorres-pm8el heckles yeah! Happy you enjoyed!
Been a huge Diva advocate since I figured out that Teus/Rhine + Goons ends on Nept/Double Toad/Dragite through Droll + Nibiru haha. Very corner case but the fact the possibility to do so is there, is pretty crazy.
can u explain the combo pls?
@@morkes8420 Teus pitch Goons, search Rhine, Goons search diva. Get Droll'd. Rhine + Teus for Coelacanth. Coelacanth summon 4. Get nibbed. Normal diva, summon Shadow Squad. Make them both 7's, Gaios into Posedira. Poseidra detach Squad, dump Neptabyss and bounce Nibiru. You can figure out the rest 👏
Love your Video.
One thing to note is, the way you arrange that prince combo plays into nib instead of droll, it's kinda a pick your poison kind of problem.
Also, if you get drolled on prince you can't add moulin because dragoons has a seperate chain.
Instead of shif, try greedy gluttenous it's better under shifter and also sets up insane boards
@Wanze2 it's definitely a picture poison sneario and thts also why I don't love combo tutorials cus u have 5 cards, not 1 and depending on the hand, u can play around a host of cards. Also, if u get rolled on prince, u just don't care low key, cus ull still have shrine and dragoons in gy, ull still end on 3 interrupts, (5 if u open infantry)
@@Wanze2 oh! I'll check out ur mentioned fish target
@@deepseaygo250
Indeed. I might switch to your combo if I dont have shrine in hand, otherwise the normal anti nib combo will do just fine.
That greedy fish sets up icejade aegerine + kragen under shifter, and double toad + dweller+ king nept + abysslacia in the normal combo.
Its main benefit is it being a lvl 3 tuner and the fact that it can revive rhine from grave to get into white aura purpoise without having to waste a pike for it.
Occasional reviving a prince or infantry also comes up from time to time
@@Wanze2i think thats the thing if you build your deck right we are one of the few decks that can play around nib, droll, imperm, fuwalos and dshifter. Dshifter being the most annoying. Basically all handtraps that can shut a turn down. I love we can have an answer to everything.
@@DeepfriedVampire
True, if shifter ever gets banned we are gonna be a top tier contender for sure. Even more important than the decklists though are knowing the card effects inside out. I've won a few games because of infantrys extra normal summon, hell I even won a game because of dragoons direct attack effect through an unaffected PeP.
It has limitless options
Babe wake up a new DeepSea video just dropped😲
Happy to see you're still on the goat Shif, get the girl Dine back in there haha
I havent given up on dine. Im interested in how dine into squad interacts into Detonator. That might jsut be the play, but i would have to cut gunde as well to not play to many bricks and idk, gunde is of age and shes wiggling her thang pretty nice!
Let’s gooooooo ! I’m trying this list next locals ! It’s so cool to see your approach after all the testing you did these past weeks !
I really like the community that’s following you. We may not all agree with one another but we communicate really well ! No insult or looking down on someone because of his deck choices. We share are reasoning and that’s awesome!
I also really enjoyed that during your combo tutorials, you didn’t tunnel vision on trying to keep mouling on the field ! A lot of players think that losing your battle phase is relevant but it really isn’t with all the interactions the deck already puts and adds on the following turn ! (Perhaps something you learn from Lancea control?! 🤣) Also, rip Lancia Control (you are not playing it next week 🥲)
What do you think of siding Impulse instead of LS and Feather duster. Really good card into FS / Rogue decks and Maliss. It also helps going second to stop a nibiru from resolving.
“We may not all agree with each other” I love this sentence. We all have different ways to play the deck. Just shows how unsolved the deck is and how much more work is needed
Loved this comment man! Id say I still ike impulse and it may have a place. There are a couple other ways id like to try to play this deck, maybe rely more so on engine, less nonengine. Impulse would most likely fit into this idea. Idk, im still undecided and trying to find ways to enhance a deck was successful. The worst part about a deck doing well for me is the decks issues are more hidden.
"We may not all agree", "we communicate very well" and "we share reasoning" is something I love to hear... usually channels don't have such strong communities and being part of it, with other great minds who think differently than me but still in a smart way is so satisfying.
The people I have to thank more for that are you, Lernonad and of course my man Deep!
@@deepseaygo250 I think this deck can def rely more on engine when Rumbling Poseidra releases.
@Redrockyt_ 🤣 i ain't shit, just a dude who plays a children card game to get away from life
Great list and discussion and theory. Have you considered running a second Coelacanth? Naturally, opening two of them is even worse than one, but at least opening one isn't an immediate death sentence, given that you also aren't running Abyss Keeper currently.
I think it’s just better to play abyss keeper, coelacanth is just going to be a dead draw no matter what
Appreciate the love and support! I would say my mistake was not just playing abyss keeper. I would not recommend playing to deepseakings
Dope profile again brother. Question, when you open Teus/Squad, what’s your line? I obviously special prince and go from there but was interested in hearing your thoughts when you open that.
@KRV-YGO its always the same thought process, what's the fastest way to ur win condition? Shrine into deepseaking. So teus will search for shrine, squad summon prince, no droll/ fuwaross?! Great, check for soft hand traps/ nib. Prince send drag/add drag and minstrel. Snipe the hand, search moulin. GG's
@@deepseaygo250 I think I need to change my priorities, I get so caught up in 1 form of a combo that I miss other lines that are right infront of me. Last week I opened Teus/Squad multiple times and found myself running into dead ends. Skill issue 100% lmao but I need to do as you said and just focus on getting to and resolving deep sea king. Sometimes I get too focused on JUST getting to toads and don’t think about how I can achieve the toads and more pluses by using my deep sea king eff efficiently haha thanks for the insight man.
Az-ee-mia is a new pronunciation I’ve heard for Azamina. You got askaan pronunciation correct.
I know you probably don’t want to buy the card but putting Fuwalos in the side might just be the play to secure games against rogue matchups (or the mirror).
And if you are feeling like Zealantis is not working out, it does seem like you can make a small presence through D Barrier. So you could play Abyss Keeper for when you draw coelacanth
Also when is the regional? I have one the 5th but am probably playing Yubel assuming I get my cards in on time.
@WenLifeGivULemons the 5th in Rosemont!
Yeah funny thing, I otk'd through barrier, mourner, FS trap in gy, and King Ceaser without zealantis. But then on the re-watch for a game I lost, zealantis might have got me there so it's very hard to say...
I do think I wanna try abyss keeper, even though I don't like it
Love your list man, I’ve been watching all your videos since mannadium days (im still playing mannadium) I refuse to let it die LOL.
Im playing mermail now and it have been very difficult to feel confortable with a list. This list is very close to what im playing.
Don’t you think your non engine amount is too high?
I think the non engine count was alittle high tbh even if all the cards were justified. I also believe the deck can play this much non-engine. I will say one of my biggest take aways was the full engine hands did really well! So im rethinking how much non-engine is even needed. There will be more time to test and I will do my best to find my optimal version!
Nice deck mate, Id prefer if you go to your lancea control hybrid variant. but if this stuff works out so far indeed why change :D
Love to see mermail gunde and abyssgaios I wish i could run them. just love to see that.
besides that you would know my points :D 2x minstrel bar minimal, small world over one for one. stuff like that :D
good to see the one diva. What I do like about your build not that you are investing more cards into the deepseaking I dont like that but investing into deepsea king as your play under d-shifter.
I am very much looking into that. wasn't aware the fish lv2 could also be used in a combo line for under dshifter.
I thought Gluttonous Reptolphin Greethys or fishborg archer for sure would be the only way.
What else? hmm ohyeah for ryzal we need our gameciel which works great with small world too or Eria.
@sirdeepfry2484 i was actually laying in bed for like an hour building deepseaking/ lancea hybrid is my head. Idk if it'll take off. If opportunity presents itself I'll try something to tht effect.
I also agree tht kaijus r very interesting right now and I think it's worth testing 1 since it can be searched so easily
I recommend Ghost Belle. It’s actually really good in this format. Stops engraver plus more.
@@Mr_Robot0101 its already in the updated list 👀!!!
Have you considered playing Abyss keeper in the event you draw into the Deepsea King Coelacanth.
@ssj4zaku I will be trying it out for my next locals/testing session. I accept even though I don't like the card, it's a necessary utility card
@deepseaygo250 looking forward to that vid.
Not being able to link it off is brutal
@KRV-YGO facts, it is also why I dont play the card. But if your whole deck runs on coelacanth, it's better to have it. Going to test the card out myself.
@@KRV-YGO indeed brutal, middle ground is its target protection for deepseaking, and if u don't need target protection, then use its other effect, tribute the deepseakimg and banish an enemy card
Hey man, sorry I was to busy with school and finished your previous video today (after 10 days!) 😢
But honestly the only thing I noticed was the One For One debate and I stand with MarvinRed on it... tho this opinion is just for me, and I would play SW in this deck too (idk if you noticed, but Shif is almost a perfect bridge; it misses only Infantry!)
But now let's talk about this deck profile...
I see you went for a Coelacanth-based list, and on a first look I was skeptical;
but MAN, I tested out all possible combos, under Shifter, Droll, even the "standard" combo (non-Coelacanth one)... your deck is awesome!
1) Coelacanth works under the worst floodgates this deck can suffer very well, so prioritize it over "standard" combo is a great choice!
2) To reach Neptabyss without SW you have 4 '1cc' ways, 10 with '2cc' (Dragoons, Squad)
To reach Shrine without SW you have 12 (!!) '1cc' ways, 18 with '2cc' (again Dragoons, Squad)
...a lot more! Almost double!
3) You play less bricks (Virtue Stream) and you have more free slots in the ED (armor fortress etc)... also, you consume less cards in your ED for the combo!
4) Even the "standard" combo is super strong! (ends on 4 interruptions, more than enough XD)
I gotta admit, at first I disliked your list when I saw it, but since it was YOUR list I was willing to try it out; that's the best choice I could've made!
I even tried to search deeply for negative aspects, but they were so few and so well-compensated I had to just ignore them... I just couldn't believe a version like this to be this good!
I never thought I'd say this, but a version centered around Coelacanth is better than the "standard" one!
Gongrats my man, you really opened my eyes. So happy you exist! Merfolks for life!❤️🧜♂️
Just two things: I would maybe replace Chengying for Gymir cuz she's still the best Synchro 10; also, in side you should replace droplet for Dark Ruler cuz of you want to stop detonator, Desirae, Silvia etc... it does the same work, but without discarding, so better (btw, I know the field spell negate, but it's just that - you can bait it)!
@Redrockyt_ wow! Amazing, I appreciate how much u like the list and how detailed u r with ur thoughts!
I dont think it's perfect yet, Fuwaross is probbs my biggest contender w/ this list. But I do think this list is a step in right direction. I know i need to at least pick one up for the regional.
As for ur notes - gymir is cool and ill probbs test it once and decide from there. I have hard time giving up chengying for how offensive it is compared to gymir. My play style is just naturally "play to win" oppose to "play to not lose"
Idk about small world.. i think I'm gonna die on the hill tht it's just not very good, and I'm not trying to lose tht hard to droll
With dark ruler, I have 2 issues maybe. 1 is i thoight fiend Smith would play around tht and negate it, but I'm not sure. Dark ruler won't deal with dweller which is a problem, and I can't kill them which is a problem because while the deck can grind, it's gas tank is still alot low compared to other decks.
I even realized tht chalice isn't tht good strictly based on the fact they can pop there dweller with detonator. I'm leaning towards droplet is actually a good card. I'm also interested in book of eclipse as I think tht card has similar marit to dark ruler except u still kill then.
I mean who knows, I got 2 weeks or so to figure this deck out
@@deepseaygo250 Love your responses man, so complete!
1) I know Fuwa is a pain in the ass, but the only way is Thrust package and you know it... there's no other way. It's just that idk what to take out for em
2) I think Gymir is better not for the protection, but cuz the banish can happen whenever you want (unlike Chengying, who needs someone to banish something for it to use its effect)
3) Yeah SW gets hit by droll but
1. You can still search Shrine and if he drolls you you just special Coelacanth;
2. You also have to accept the most probable ht to encounter is Ash, not Droll.
4) The arguments you made in droplet's favor don't have loosing points, I accept the defeat XD
I guess droplet is the better card after all...
And I guess you can use BoE, but it can be negated by both Desirae and Silvia so not as good as droplet.
At the end of the day you have to do your considerations, but I think discussing on it with someone who knows what they're talking about (me, you, Marvin and other commentors, not a lot but they're still there) is the right choice to improve our decklists!
@Redrockyt_ oh yeah! For sure, I love reading ur guys thoughts. We all have biasies and I do my best to see other point of views and at the end of the day, I really don't care I'm right or wrong, I just wanna win! Lol!
@@deepseaygo250 lol you're right XD
another question, i kinda liked the idea of playing diva as a one of, did u see the list julius played at ycs? toughts?
@federicoguerini9014 I saw the lancea control deck if thts wht ur referring to, but it's different of a play style for me to pivot at this point. I wish I had more time but oh well
@deepseaygo250 no no not lancea control, the list of ycs Bologna by Julius that made top 8
Surprised to hear you think fishborg harpooner is a brick, it actually unbricks your hand if you hard draw the cealacanth. I play 2 pike and 2 fishborg harpooner as my lvl 4 targets and I think it works really nicely.
Harpoon, XYZ Shark, and Shif are all considered "Additional Extenders/ Bricks" to me. My main reasoning for shif being the best one is due to it doing the same thing all the other targets do except u get to play just alittle more under shifter. That one additional interruption u get can decide the game and yes harpoon can summon Deepseaking, Abyss keeper can do the same thing which I will be playing going forward. Personal preference for sure. I do like Harpoon offers some cool extension plays and dragite is neat but but I just cant ignore Shifter is hardest counter for this deck and shif is best suited to handle that card
I play my list at 45 & it’s perfect 😈 🌊 🦞 👑
@@chrismarmol8678 i kinda leaning 45 as well!
I miss Icejade Ran and more minstrels, i would cut diva and probably megalo
cut 1 anemone for abyss-keeper
Perfection 🥰🥰
I was using a similar build, Askaan is goated
forgot to mention:
i cuted zealantis for dweller too
I feel like icejade ran is a 1 card end board piece and can activate a discard effect, i really like it
good player!
Tehe! Thx!
how do u deal with l/d chaos angel?
@@juanmanuelabregu1083 chaos angel is tough for sure! Mainly looking at non engine like droplet or imperm, as well as cards like lacia plus poesidra to crash, or chengying and get him fat
Any reason no not use gymir aegirine over chengying? Also abyss keeper helps with hands where you open coelacanth
Great decklist tho
@gamakujira64e23 abyss keeper is being tested now and for the lvl 10 synchro. I'd say personal preference. They both have good use cases. I think the selling point for me is chengying is alittle more offensive while still have dedonader protection and is generic where gymir requires a water tuner. So u can't make chemgying with a hand trap tuner
@ I see, that makes sense. I’m wondering if you’d consider playing white aura whale for the level 8 synchro slot since it provides the whole board wipe. Of course you don’t get the shif recursion, but askaan is particularly bad into Maliss
@gamakujira64e23 I actually don't hate tht... whale can also assist in otks through barrier when r xyz lines r cut off. I'm just thinking what are we no longer able to hit due to whale only blowing up def. monsters
@@deepseaygo250 I was gonna say bagooska but it wouldn’t resolve anyway. I highly doubt people would start playing around white aura whale, and even if they did that could prevent them from otk-ing which can help if you get shiftered. I was mainly thinking about it as an anti-maliss tech, since all the maliss cards plus off of being banished, and maliss has a hard time playing around whale because they’re a link-climbing deck. The main thing I’m worried about it that it can’t out detonator, and I don’t know if this deck has many outs to it going first.
Budget options for that $70 card??
@MiracleMan9978 assuming ur referring to purulia, that's fine! I'd test 3 nib, 3 ash, 2-3 droll (droll is called by for enemy charmies) 2 belle 2 ogre, 3 imperm 2nd infantry
Imo the problem with droplet is shifter, its another dead card in ur worst matchup
What do u think aboyt siding gameciel, water and can handle both terahertz and deadnator
@federicoguerini9014 I think kaijus r worth testing and I think i will try them out next week in lieu og droplet
@@deepseaygo250are there any in-archetype ways to search gameciel that I’m not aware of?
@@deepseaygo250 yeah also the new support does a very good job going second, i love that card, its a foolish, a bounce in hand and a lvl 7 to make gaios and posedra, insane card imo
@gamakujira64e23 well there Eria charmer and small world, thts it
Man this list a lot of one of s and the combo with coellacanth play into nib... And scoop
Watch round 1 with this deck. I got nibbed on deepseaking, see how it played out
Also, I’m probably gonna 100% net deck this list it’s VERY good IMO 😂
@KRV-YGO i couldn't ask for a better compliment. Im hoping I can convince myself to try some board breakers put next but this is very nice. I recommend using deck count to 45. Testing 2nd infantry, tactics, belle, and Eria
@@deepseaygo250 Yeah after testing with the beyond Ghoti, you were 100% right in your comment on my vid. All the stars and planets have to align perfectly for deep beyond to actually work the way I want it to and it’s almost never worth banishing my whole board. But seeing how you used the other fish synchro looks WAAAYYY better.
Also hand trap line up is horrible
Agreed, Its horrible
Ryzeal eats this deck for breakfast.
That’s a funny way of spelling dweller
@@Mr_Robot0101 I ate ryzeal! 😁
But I don't deny ryzeals power at all!
Literally 😂