Here's a handy Chrome extension you can install on your desktop to help you read Chinese websites with bopomofo.: is.gd/8E8OiH And here's a great article by my friends at Yoyo Chinese explaining the difference between pinyin and alphabets: yoyochinese.com/chinese-alphabet
你好 Grace. Does everyone in Taiwan, Hongkong, Macau, Singapore understand and can speak Simplified and Standard Mandarin Chinese? I am very interested in it. 谢谢😊 再见
👍Great video! I have been debating how valuable zhuyin is for learning outside of Taiwan 🇹🇼 as it is hard to find materials and learning applications with it printed, as everything is geared towards pinyin. After studying Japanese using hiragana, I found pinyin terribly distracting as the letters have a very different pronunciation than English, and I often found myself struggling with pronunciation😪. However this web extension makes every website including language learning websites able to display zhuyin, that makes zhuyin much more advantages for learners outside of Taiwan🇹🇼. Thanks for the video and thanks for the link to the plug in😃!
Chinese schools in Malaysia(Malaya at that time) in the 50s-60s use traditional characters and at that time zhuyin is a compulsory subject, I remember being canned by my teacher for not able to remember these characters, now I am a grand old man of 70, proud to be able to read in either simplified or traditional characters and also classical Chinese text.
Yeah I think most of us (youngsters) can also read traditional chinese but having a hard time to actually write it. Traditional chinese is very beautiful and I hope that it will still be practiced by people and not forgotten outside the Taiwanese community
I was born and raised in Malaysia and attended school in the 90s where they have already changed to Pinyin. However, I noticed Zhuyin still being used in our Chinese dictionary (the Chinese-only one). I started picking up Zhuyin myself, I didn't use it that often in the past but this year I've used it intensively due to me befriending with a Taiwanese and have gotten good at it. Now I use only Zhuyin. I find Zhuyin the better choice when I have to write out the phonetic, not only it blends in better with Chinese characters, it's easier to type out, when I was using Pinyin and have to provide tones, I was always frustrated. Aesthetically, I prefer Zhuyin way over Pinyin, it feels more Chinese, just like Japanese are able to provide pronunciation guide using Hiragana, Chinese can use Zhuyin, whether horizontal or vertical, that's impossible with Pinyin. I love the traditional vertical text. It's sad though that many Pinyin users are unwilling to give Pinyin a try, because it's truly something beautiful. We shouldn't lose it.
I have lived in Taiwan for more than 10 years now, but I still haven't learned Zhuyin. The reason is that I originally learned Pinyin back in college when I briefly studied Chinese before going to work in China for a year. If I want to type Chinese on my computer or phone, Pinyin is just much faster for me, and probably always will be. I've been using Pinyin for so long, I've basically mastered it. And after a year working in China and 10 years living in Taiwan, my ability to read Chinese characters has gotten pretty good, without the need for phonetic markers. Another reason I have been avoiding Zhuyin is that before Chinese, I studied Japanese for many years, and Zhuyin looks a lot like the Japanese script called Katakana. Some of the Katakana look very close to, or exactly like Zhuyin, but represent completely different sounds, so I get confused. メ コ く イ ム ル カ ロ all look very similar to Zhuyin, but are actually Japanese, and my mind automatically hears Japanese sounds when I see Zhuyin that look like these (and after living in Taiwan for 10 years, my mind usually hears Chinese sounds whenever I see Japanese characters). However, I am planning to learn Zhuyin this month, for a couple of reasons. First, my Chinese has hit a plateau. It isn't improving through my day-to-day interactions. So I want to start reading Chinese to learn more words and characters, and Zhuyin will help me with words I don't already know. Second, I have 3 children here who are all Taiwanese citizens and Chinese speakers. The oldest one will start first grade soon and will be learning Zhuyin. If I learn it too, I can help her with school and read Chinese children's books with her. I think this can help both her and me at the same time. So I will start with this video and continue from there.
anyone using the Pleco dictionary, you can choose to habe zhuyin as your preferred phonetic system ! Incredibly useful ! personally i found 注音 made my accent and understanding of sound formation in mandarin much better, since talkin to my friends they seem to read pinyin like an english word and not split up the different sounds. also because 注音 is totally different to the latin alphabet it really helped me seperate between english in my head also, 注音 is usually placed to the side of the letter so its much more difficult to skip looking at the character like it is with hanyupinyin which is usually put below or above all of the characters…
This video brings back childhood memories. As a young Korean kid in Taipei back in 02', I remember learning my first bopomofo and the character 早. I've recently started studying Mandarin after a 15yr hiatus and already it's been a journey. I love how your videos explain linguistic facts concisely and effectively. 加油 from S. Korea~
非常感谢你的分享。I think I gonna learn zhuyin this year . Because I know pinyin already. I want to learn traditional Chinese because I really like Taiwan and I want to study there in the future. But it really hard to find the video that teach traditional Chinese with zhuyin. I think most of them are teach simplified Chinese with pinyin. So it easier for learner to find the material for learning mandarin. This video will help people who also learning mandarin and want to learn traditional Chinese with zhuyin a lots . Also enjoy with your lessons at the same time. Haha 😉谢谢你
And I learnt Chinese directly from Taiwan xD So I'm used to Zhuyin more... Come join Taiwan 😂 Stop using Pinyin and write 謝謝 instead of 谢谢 from now on 😂
@@xriex97 Can i ask what language do school in taiwan use. Traditional Chinese + zhu yun or ?. I'm currently grade 10 on 2nd semester. Planning to go to taiwan once i finished high school. What chinese do i need to learn ? ( Traditional + zhuyin or tradhisional + pinyin) Oh and I'm planning to do TOCFL.
@@jasond5140 Yes, TOCFL usually works only in Taiwan. For China, you use HSK. Schools in Taiwan using Traditional Hanzi. Which is same like Hong Kong anf Macau. And Zhuyin is used for Children to learn Chinese. If you're in Highschool. Probably Zhuyin or Pinyin is not needed. Only use Traditional Hanzi.
Why would it take a year to learn zhuyin :| I think that's a very pessimistic expectation, I believe it could take you around 1 week to master it, that's the time it took me to learn Hiragana at least, which has around the same number of characters
I'd argue that having to learn it is actually an advantage over Pinyin. For me it's kinda like when I learned Cyrillic to later learn Russian instead of using the romanization. I see Cyrillic, I know it's Russian mode. Same idea here. With Pinyin I subconsciously look for parallels with my native language that aren't there instead of fully concentrating on learning the pronunciation. With Bopomofo my mind doesn't wonder off. I see Zhuyin, I know it's Chinese mode. Plus it's based on actual Chinese characters like Japanese Kana are based on Kanji. Really wish PRC went with it instead of Pinyin, cause it's such a more natural fit for the language and it'd make getting materials for both Traditional and Simplified characters so much easier
Additional positives for Zhuyin: - Distance from English (and other languages written in the Latin alphabet): If you natively know Latin characters, when you see them, your brain automatically goes into "native mode", doing pattern matching etc. on them for your native language. By writing readings instead in an before unknown alphabet, your brain stays in "Chinese mode". - Less to remember: While not as drastic as Kana in Japanese, Zhuyin in many cases combines what in Pinyin are multiple characters into one, shortening readings! It also helps to separate the Finals like "ou" (ㄡ) from "o" (ㄛ) and "u" (ㄨ), reducing confusion among them. - Typing: There are keyboards for Zhuyin, which make typing both quicker and less error-prone (plus reinforce the last point). Usually you can even set them to write in simplified Chinese!
Yes, I'm glad you pointed this out. I noticed while I'm learning new Chinese words, I look more into pinyin than the characters. I can feel my brain is more fixated on learning these pinyin which makes it harder for me to retain knowledge of Chinese characters.
@@pomjoep At least on my keyboard, in the settings for my Zhuyin traditional keyboard there's an option to output "simplified". Note that this is different from using a simplified keyboard which doesn't include the Zhuyin option. For reference I am using google's keyboard on an android phone. Hope this helps!
These look very close to Japanese kana for example ㄦ looks like ル, ㄜ looks like さ, ㄘ looks like ち, ㄙ looks like ム, ㄝ looks like せ and ㄡ looks like ヌ And ㄈ looks like korean ㄷ That’s gonna be confusing lol
Isaac Z Hangul isn’t based on any chinese characters (as far as I know) so it’s just a coincidence that it looked similar. But hiragana and katakana were based off of chinese characters (idk about “ancient” but still very old) so that’s why they look similar (to (some) Japanese at least)
@@justakathings The difference is that the Hiraganas are based on relatively modern forms of Chinese characters such as ぬ for 奴, while Chinese phonetic symbols are based on ancient or rare forms of Chinese characters such as ㄓ for 止.
Isaac Z I’m aware of that but they still look similar because they are fundamentally based off of chinese characters, no matter when they were “invented” which will make them have a specific look to them. I never said that all of them did, just some specific ones that could easily be based off of a different character (which they probably are) but my point still stands that they are very similar to specific Japanese kana
I learned Chinese for a very long time but I'm new to zhuyin.After watching all these videos I think zhuyin makes more sense than pinyin.It's more phonetically consistent and it has one more quality that you didn't mention.Like 汉字, Zhuyin can be written vertically too, but pinyin can only be written horizontally.
Due to lockdown I started studying Chinese, however I still find so hard for me to like sit down and study without being distracted. Thank God, I found your channel. I've got several books with me from Taiwan. So, I'll work my butt off these days. Hoping . . . Thank you Ms. Grace. ♥️
I studied Chinese in Taiwan in about 1983! I loved the bopomofo system so much as it made learning Chinese easy!!! Now I want to remember. I had already studied Mandarin in HK before I left for Taipei. Then I got pretty fluent after a year in Taipei as my best friend couldn't speak English. Now my vocabulary is so bad but what i remember i can say quite quickly so it's really difficult to find my level in a classroom. Am going to refresh my bopomofo here and see what other resources Grace Mandarin has. All other comments from one year ago tho'.......
I don't have english as first language, I speak spanish but there is not a lot good info about how to pronunce or learn chinese in youtube in my language, so I'm glad to find your channel, is so easy to understood you, even if I'm still working at learning english. Thank you so much for you help.
I took Mandarin (via pinyin) in college for 3 semesters in the US. We of course learned the simplified characters. Now that it’s nearly 12 years later I’ve been hooked on some Taiwanese shows and have the umph to pick it back up. Realized Taiwan uses traditional, so I pulled up the traditional keyboard on my phone and was shocked to see the Zhuyin keyboard. I had never seen it in my studies. Very cool! Hopefully I can pick up on it easy. Learning the traditional version of the characters, may not be quite as easy. 😅😂 Thank you for this video! 😁🙏🏻
I currently live in taiwan, not to study chinese, but I'm extremely interested in it! My Taiwanese friends help me, but thank you! It's hard to find resources to help with traditional chinese characters and zhuyin
For us Vietnamese, due to the many similarities in pronunciation with Chinese and due to the fact that we use the Latin alphabet, Zhuyin is actually a lot harder than Pinyin, so I think nearly all of the Chinese learners here use Pinyin
Yes but before 1975 the Chinese community in the south of Vietnam learned traditional characters and bopomofo. All the Chinese textbooks and curriculum and whatnot were from Republic of China
Really ? I'm vietnamese born and raised in Germany. So yes I'm very familiar with latin alphabet. I'm also very fluent in vietnamese (read through the entire new testament of the bible in vn). I am at the start of my Chinese language learning journey and find it soo much easier to start learning Zhuyin than Pinyin because as @Garbaz mentioned - there is no need for context switching when I see and hear Zhuyin. Because seeing the latin character of Pinyin connect to very different sound parts of my brain and I also have to remind myself, this is not fully correctly pronounced - because latin uses different parts of the mouth. I honestly feel it to be a huge distraction for foreigners trying to learn Chinese. Because to me those Zhuyin characters actually look to me just the same as Russian, Indian or Japanese Characters - Symbols connected to specific sounds. I find it even pointless to learn Pinyin - if it wouldn't be for the current China using it as their main tool of teaching Chinese(so many things are being programmed and created with Pinyin in mind). Stay healthy and happy new year ^-^
@@xXHotaroXx well, so do you have difficulty learning Vietnamese alphabet? Because as I know, Vietnamese alphabet has many letters and digraphs that has different pronunciations from German. For pinyin stuff, most Vietnamese people start learning Chinese after learning English, so they understand that pinyin is from a different language, it isn't supposed to have same pronunciation with either Vietnamese or English
It's like you can actually use Zhuyin alone to write a full sentence like latin alphabet but I think it's more cute to read when written atop the characters just like Furigana in Japanese.
Great to watch your videos, Grace. What you're doing is creating lots of useful online materials for Chinese learners around the world. As a Chinese language learner, I'm thankful for people like you that I have more materials to learn from. Keep up with your work!
This is the answer to my question on your video (Must Have Chinese Learning Tools) on what is the small characters beside the hanzi and what is it for. I am very happy to find your channel in learning Chinese.
idk if you got an answer and i'm not the grace you asked (and i hope you're still learning!) but: ㄓ,ㄔ, and ㄕ all have a similar tongue position (mid-mouth, tongue curled a little in a u shape. my sides of tongue touch my teeth) ㄗ, ㄘ, ㄙ all have a front-of-mouth sound, also similar tongue position. ㄓ: "zhr" sound. or try pronouncing "jrrr" ㄗ : "dz" sound. hold a "z" sound out. ㄔ: "chr". google translate "eat" and it's this sound exactly ㄘ: "tss" sound. ㄕ: "shr" sound. google translate "wet". ㄙ: "s". make an s sound and activate your vocal chords. google translate "tear/rip" ㄛ : "oh" with a soft "o". ㄜ : "uh" ㄣ: "en" tongue touching forward-mouth ㄥ: "eng" tongue touching mid-mouth i hope this helps at least a little
I love this lesson because personally for me I find that zhuyin is much more easier than pinyin also I always has a love for the culture and the people also I find that by using the system it makes me more closer to the language
I'm so glad you made this video! Please make more Bopomofo videos. I bought a lot of Taiwanese story books because I'm interested in Taiwan, but I was worried because they only have Bopomofo with the characters and nothing else. I subscribed to your channel now.
I wouldn't say it's an advantage. The difference in speed isn't that great once you get used to it tho, in fact it's just like type English or any other latin alphabetical languages. hence there isn't a demand to change or revise the Pinyin system. As someone who type in English, you wouldn't be complaining about typing english, even though some long common words "responsibility" or "dictionary" or "establishment" are quite a handful to type, right? In fact, we are able to type them out rather quickly...
@@sasino Yes I know. I learned my zhuyin when I'm still oblivious about devices other than a book bound dictionary. If u know what I'm talking ab then u know zhuyin is not the way to search for words nor its meaning. But it is in pinyin. I just find it much easier to do that in the latter.
@@litog888 True, I mainly want to learn zhuyin for the sake of it, because it's interesting and seems simple, but I know pinyin is the one that we'll actually end using
I’ve learned bits of pieces of zhuyin, mainly for the purpose of reading children’s books. The hardest bit is trying to memorise each zhuyin symbol. The initials were quite easy, I matched the zhuyin symbol to a chinese hanzi which has the same initial and also looks similar, for example ㄉ and 刀, ㄅ and 包 etc. However, the finals are much harder to find logic like this, so I gave up haha. Maybe I should just brute force memorise it.
Wow !! Before that I didn’t even know about its existence, here in Russia I am studying Punthua and we naturally use 拼音. In Russia, we do not use the Latin alphabet, instead of it we have the Cyrillic alphabet, so I have no problems with perception 拼音, which many write about. However, 珠 音 does have some interesting advantages. I think someday I will learn it !!! Although I am only a freshman ....
Thank you so much. Being used to pinyin for so long, when reading zhuyin I have to turn off that part of my brain and kinda relearn Mandarin pronunciation.
I-- I'm trying to learn so i can communicate with my online friends. But... so hard :") Thank you for the video, i will continue watching this until i understand
I missed the Zhuyin train because US schools were already teaching Chinese with Pin Yin by the 2000s. When I studied in Taiwan it was just traditional characters being taught in the Universities for foreigners.
Thank you so much! I got some great reading materials from Taiwan, but because I learned pin yin, I have never been able to fully exploit them because I have to constantly look up words in the dictionary-- problem solved🎉🎉
I have never worked with zhuyin so I can only appreciate the theoretical advantages. People who are accustomed to languages written in Latin script already know that the spelling and pronunciation of words can be very different (I can only judge this for English, German and French), so the way that pinyin might not accurately reflect the pronunciation is like a very minor thing, because with Chinese pinyin, you never actually have to think about a pinyin being pronounced differently in different contexts, please correct me if I'm wrong. So for the example of 'liu', it will always be pronounced the way it's supposed to, even though it does not explicitly have the 'o' sound. It's basically like why almost nobody uses the IPA alphabet even though it is much more precise. For me personally pinyin will probably always be more convenient. I've seen that Taiwanese people when they write on a phone/computer they will also use zhuyin, that was interesting to me!
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The Chinese keyboards i use to write are zhuyin ( tradicional), pinyin(tradicional), pinyin ( simplified ) , cangjie ( tradicional),canjie for Cantonese, jyutping ( Cantonese) and Chinese handwriting keyboard.
I never knew till now why liu in 拼音 always sound like the English name, "Leo," to me; that liou to liu along with the xu,qu,cu, ci,zi,shi,chi changes caused me to have to relearn pronunciation several times (it's still not great lol). Thanks Gracie
fascinating! i did not that there is a system like this that is actually in use! i had already wondered why nobody had thought about making a more "efficient" system than pinyin to be able to put chinese into phonetic writing. now i learn that such a thing is commonly used in taiwan! i find it unfortunate that it is so "closely tied" to traditional chinese characters and only used in taiwan. thank you for the video
OMG 😍 I wonder if you saw my comment on your previous video because this is exactly what I've asked! Although I want to learn Mandarine, I sometimes find Taiwanese interesting. 🤔 Thanks ❤️
@@hams2410 but this vedio teaches Zhuyin… what you are watching is not Mandarin of you thought.maybe you could find some vedio about pinyin,that will help you.
Very good tutorials tx. I have been doing self study on these 汉子。 using pinyin. For me this is much more simpler. However, i feel using this cu yin... the pronunciation seems more accurate to my ear. Maybe this has to do with a simplified version of the 汉子。
I am having the hardest time learning this because I actually initially tried learning Zhuyin when started learning Mandarin but resources outside of Taiwan did not exist. Now I am too used to Pinyin to learn another system. Good think your videos have both!
tbh this is very easy, and I'm learning it just for the sake of knowing it XD it's not really useful to me because I'm studying Standard Chinese with Simplified characters, but I'd still like to learn how to read this
I always found absurd to realize that 1.6 billion Chinese are typing latin alphabet on their smartphones all day long, to be able to see their own language. Specially given how arrogant the Chinese government likes to talk as if they don't need anything from the West. It's like if Europeans were writing on cyrilic keyboards to be able to print latin words on their screens. Even though I used to write on pinyin, I now prefer 注音 , feels more unique and local.
I wish China would adopt this system too or at least rework pinyin because the sounds aren't represented by the latin alphabet well in it's current form.
I could have started learning Chinese when I was 10 or in similar time instead of now. Pinyin was the problem. It was not fun enough to learn those rules exceptions. I kept pronouncing xiexie as ksye ksye. If it was bopomofo, it would be more exciting to learn, because children like new things. I learned Cyrillic alphabet this way. Maybe if I knew bopomofo, I would not quit learning.
i think people in hong kong or macau use zhuying or something similar to it as well? i mean i've seen them typing using some weird characters on their mobile phones as well in some hk drama, it's gonna be pretty impossible to type cantonese using pinying because mandarin only has 4 tones but cantonese has like 9 tones.
When they were updating the Chinese writing system and originally wanted to remove Hanzi and replace it - why didn't they just use Zhuyin?! It looks so easy and capable!! omg.. instead they simplified the characters..
感謝，正想要教外國朋友注音，一來youtube搜bopomofo第一個就是這麼讚的影片! Thank you, I am just about to teach foreign friends zhuyin, the first video that showed up when I searched for bopomofo on youtube is such a great vid!
Whilst Zhuyin indeed contains far fewer orthographic reductions than does Pinyin, it's not true that Zhuyin doesn't use any shortcuts. For example, ㄨ and ㄩ are NOT pronounced the same way in ALL environments. The ㄨ of ㄉㄨㄥ and the ㄩ of ㄒㄩㄥ are pronounced like something leaning towards ㄛ/ㄨ and ㄧㄛ/ㄧㄨ, respectively. Furthermore, both Zhuyin and Pinyin alike use ㄢ to represent an -ên (ㄝㄋ) sound when following 一 or ㄩ, as well as spelling buo/puo/muo/fuo as bo/po/mo/fo.
I taught myself 注音party because of a Taiwan game show on characters, 一字千金 （？）, and partly for reading 注音文 in chats like on the website twitch. I don't know if it will be helpful for pronunciation since I already know 拼音。 I have no idea how I would learn to type it on a computer though unless I actually bought a Taiwanese keyboard or taped sticker all over my current keyboard (it sucks that you can't see where the zhuyin is and you have to guess where the letters are.
Zhuyin is very intuitive especially if you learn it with Chinese character identification. Romanized Pinyin, on the other hand, is like picking up another language with Latin letters. That's a real disconnect esp. for beginners
are u kidding me? you need to learn a tons of characters along with the pronunciation only to write a traditional character ? is much better type ai on the keyboard instead of zhuyin.
I don't think it has anything to do with the Pinyin or Zhuyin. I start with Pinyin and have no Chinese character identification problem. It's just memory. Just remember the character & its sound until the point that when you see the character, you hear the sound in your mind. Now you combine the sound with the character, boom no problem with mixing up the pinyin with the character anymore
Pinyin confuses beginner Chinese learners with Latin alphabet-based native languages.For example, Pinyin X sounds somehow close to "sh" but someone with Latin script background would read it as "eks" or "iks", and that makes reading pinyin feel a little bit annoying like reading French where most of the letters don't match their "supposed" sounds.
Here's a handy Chrome extension you can install on your desktop to help you read Chinese websites with bopomofo.: is.gd/8E8OiH
And here's a great article by my friends at Yoyo Chinese explaining the difference between pinyin and alphabets: yoyochinese.com/chinese-alphabet
你好 Grace. Does everyone in Taiwan, Hongkong, Macau, Singapore understand and can speak Simplified and Standard Mandarin Chinese? I am very interested in it. 谢谢😊
再见
@@alexanderg.7968 They can read both
Anyone knows a good app for cellphone keyboards for zhuyin?
@@MarshaBaldwin24 Gboard
👍Great video! I have been debating how valuable zhuyin is for learning outside of Taiwan 🇹🇼 as it is hard to find materials and learning applications with it printed, as everything is geared towards pinyin. After studying Japanese using hiragana, I found pinyin terribly distracting as the letters have a very different pronunciation than English, and I often found myself struggling with pronunciation😪. However this web extension makes every website including language learning websites able to display zhuyin, that makes zhuyin much more advantages for learners outside of Taiwan🇹🇼. Thanks for the video and thanks for the link to the plug in😃!
Chinese schools in Malaysia(Malaya at that time) in the 50s-60s use traditional characters and at that time zhuyin is a compulsory subject, I remember being canned by my teacher for not able to remember these characters, now I am a grand old man of 70, proud to be able to read in either simplified or traditional characters and also classical Chinese text.
Yeah I think most of us (youngsters) can also read traditional chinese but having a hard time to actually write it. Traditional chinese is very beautiful and I hope that it will still be practiced by people and not forgotten outside the Taiwanese community
Most younger Chinese can also read traditional but cannot write
I remember my grandma teaching me this! Sadly I forgot the lessons themselves 😂
@@mk9834 i woykd call myself a "youngster" and i can barely read simplified chinese
@@mk9834 Hong Kong citizens still use them
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS TUTORIAL! There's a surprising lack of resources on this.
I was born and raised in Malaysia and attended school in the 90s where they have already changed to Pinyin. However, I noticed Zhuyin still being used in our Chinese dictionary (the Chinese-only one).
I started picking up Zhuyin myself, I didn't use it that often in the past but this year I've used it intensively due to me befriending with a Taiwanese and have gotten good at it. Now I use only Zhuyin.
I find Zhuyin the better choice when I have to write out the phonetic, not only it blends in better with Chinese characters, it's easier to type out, when I was using Pinyin and have to provide tones, I was always frustrated.
Aesthetically, I prefer Zhuyin way over Pinyin, it feels more Chinese, just like Japanese are able to provide pronunciation guide using Hiragana, Chinese can use Zhuyin, whether horizontal or vertical, that's impossible with Pinyin. I love the traditional vertical text.
It's sad though that many Pinyin users are unwilling to give Pinyin a try, because it's truly something beautiful. We shouldn't lose it.
I have lived in Taiwan for more than 10 years now, but I still haven't learned Zhuyin. The reason is that I originally learned Pinyin back in college when I briefly studied Chinese before going to work in China for a year. If I want to type Chinese on my computer or phone, Pinyin is just much faster for me, and probably always will be. I've been using Pinyin for so long, I've basically mastered it. And after a year working in China and 10 years living in Taiwan, my ability to read Chinese characters has gotten pretty good, without the need for phonetic markers.
Another reason I have been avoiding Zhuyin is that before Chinese, I studied Japanese for many years, and Zhuyin looks a lot like the Japanese script called Katakana. Some of the Katakana look very close to, or exactly like Zhuyin, but represent completely different sounds, so I get confused. メ コ く イ ム ル カ ロ all look very similar to Zhuyin, but are actually Japanese, and my mind automatically hears Japanese sounds when I see Zhuyin that look like these (and after living in Taiwan for 10 years, my mind usually hears Chinese sounds whenever I see Japanese characters).
However, I am planning to learn Zhuyin this month, for a couple of reasons. First, my Chinese has hit a plateau. It isn't improving through my day-to-day interactions. So I want to start reading Chinese to learn more words and characters, and Zhuyin will help me with words I don't already know. Second, I have 3 children here who are all Taiwanese citizens and Chinese speakers. The oldest one will start first grade soon and will be learning Zhuyin. If I learn it too, I can help her with school and read Chinese children's books with her. I think this can help both her and me at the same time.
So I will start with this video and continue from there.
Did you manage to improve?
It's incredible how many languages people can learn, even after growing up and having children!
anyone using the Pleco dictionary, you can choose to habe zhuyin as your preferred phonetic system ! Incredibly useful !
personally i found 注音 made my accent and understanding of sound formation in mandarin much better, since talkin to my friends they seem to read pinyin like an english word and not split up the different sounds. also because 注音 is totally different to the latin alphabet it really helped me seperate between english in my head
also, 注音 is usually placed to the side of the letter so its much more difficult to skip looking at the character like it is with hanyupinyin which is usually put below or above all of the characters…
Great tip about Pleco. I'll give it a try!
This video brings back childhood memories. As a young Korean kid in Taipei back in 02', I remember learning my first bopomofo and the character 早.
I've recently started studying Mandarin after a 15yr hiatus and already it's been a journey. I love how your videos explain linguistic facts concisely and effectively. 加油 from S. Korea~
早都忘记了注音输入法！
还是拼音更简单更有效！
非常感谢你的分享。I think I gonna learn zhuyin this year . Because I know pinyin already. I want to learn traditional Chinese because I really like Taiwan and I want to study there in the future. But it really hard to find the video that teach traditional Chinese with zhuyin. I think most of them are teach simplified Chinese with pinyin. So it easier for learner to find the material for learning mandarin. This video will help people who also learning mandarin and want to learn traditional Chinese with zhuyin a lots . Also enjoy with your lessons at the same time. Haha 😉谢谢你
welcome to the bright side
And I learnt Chinese directly from Taiwan xD
So I'm used to Zhuyin more...
Come join Taiwan 😂
Stop using Pinyin and write 謝謝 instead of 谢谢 from now on 😂
@@xriex97 Can i ask what language do school in taiwan use. Traditional Chinese + zhu yun or ?. I'm currently grade 10 on 2nd semester. Planning to go to taiwan once i finished high school. What chinese do i need to learn ? ( Traditional + zhuyin or tradhisional + pinyin) Oh and I'm planning to do TOCFL.
@@jasond5140 Yes, TOCFL usually works only in Taiwan. For China, you use HSK. Schools in Taiwan using Traditional Hanzi. Which is same like Hong Kong anf Macau. And Zhuyin is used for Children to learn Chinese. If you're in Highschool. Probably Zhuyin or Pinyin is not needed. Only use Traditional Hanzi.
Why would it take a year to learn zhuyin :| I think that's a very pessimistic expectation, I believe it could take you around 1 week to master it, that's the time it took me to learn Hiragana at least, which has around the same number of characters
I'd argue that having to learn it is actually an advantage over Pinyin.
For me it's kinda like when I learned Cyrillic to later learn Russian instead of using the romanization. I see Cyrillic, I know it's Russian mode.
Same idea here. With Pinyin I subconsciously look for parallels with my native language that aren't there instead of fully concentrating on learning the pronunciation.
With Bopomofo my mind doesn't wonder off. I see Zhuyin, I know it's Chinese mode. Plus it's based on actual Chinese characters like Japanese Kana are based on Kanji.
Really wish PRC went with it instead of Pinyin, cause it's such a more natural fit for the language and it'd make getting materials for both Traditional and Simplified characters so much easier
Additional positives for Zhuyin:
- Distance from English (and other languages written in the Latin alphabet): If you natively know Latin characters, when you see them, your brain automatically goes into "native mode", doing pattern matching etc. on them for your native language. By writing readings instead in an before unknown alphabet, your brain stays in "Chinese mode".
- Less to remember: While not as drastic as Kana in Japanese, Zhuyin in many cases combines what in Pinyin are multiple characters into one, shortening readings! It also helps to separate the Finals like "ou" (ㄡ) from "o" (ㄛ) and "u" (ㄨ), reducing confusion among them.
- Typing: There are keyboards for Zhuyin, which make typing both quicker and less error-prone (plus reinforce the last point). Usually you can even set them to write in simplified Chinese!
they dont make any zhuyin FOR simplified tho right? 😅😅
Yes, I'm glad you pointed this out. I noticed while I'm learning new Chinese words, I look more into pinyin than the characters. I can feel my brain is more fixated on learning these pinyin which makes it harder for me to retain knowledge of Chinese characters.
@@pomjoep At least on my keyboard, in the settings for my Zhuyin traditional keyboard there's an option to output "simplified". Note that this is different from using a simplified keyboard which doesn't include the Zhuyin option. For reference I am using google's keyboard on an android phone. Hope this helps!
@@graysoncroom ah, sadly iPhone doesn’t have that option
These look very close to Japanese kana for example ㄦ looks like ル, ㄜ looks like さ, ㄘ looks like ち, ㄙ looks like ム, ㄝ looks like せ and ㄡ looks like ヌ
And ㄈ looks like korean ㄷ
That’s gonna be confusing lol
uP
Every phonetic symbol in Chinese is based on the ancient form of a certain Chinese character which is different from Hiraganas or hanguls
Isaac Z Hangul isn’t based on any chinese characters (as far as I know) so it’s just a coincidence that it looked similar. But hiragana and katakana were based off of chinese characters (idk about “ancient” but still very old) so that’s why they look similar (to (some) Japanese at least)
@@justakathings The difference is that the Hiraganas are based on relatively modern forms of Chinese characters such as ぬ for 奴, while Chinese phonetic symbols are based on ancient or rare forms of Chinese characters such as ㄓ for 止.
Isaac Z I’m aware of that but they still look similar because they are fundamentally based off of chinese characters, no matter when they were “invented” which will make them have a specific look to them. I never said that all of them did, just some specific ones that could easily be based off of a different character (which they probably are) but my point still stands that they are very similar to specific Japanese kana
Great work!!
感謝妳做這部影片，希望注音能被更多世界各地的人們認識與瞭解。
我覺得注音對學中文發音更準確，比起拼音，雖然注音起頭難但後續學發音時可以更正確
我覚得完全沒關係。
GH CHEN 我是在學習了英語之後用學了法語、當然剛開始的時候會拼錯，但是轉念一想：對於外國人來說、他們用於記憶拼音所花費的功夫比用來記憶全新一套拼寫所花費的會容易許多吧。比如說法語和英語有許多字母組合或者說字母的發音不同、但是反過來想說其實很多發音你不用學都已經知道了、不同的只是一小部分。
I learned Chinese for a very long time but I'm new to zhuyin.After watching all these videos I think zhuyin makes more sense than pinyin.It's more phonetically consistent and it has one more quality that you didn't mention.Like 汉字, Zhuyin can be written vertically too, but pinyin can only be written horizontally.
Due to lockdown I started studying Chinese, however I still find so hard for me to like sit down and study without being distracted. Thank God, I found your channel. I've got several books with me from Taiwan. So, I'll work my butt off these days. Hoping . . .
Thank you Ms. Grace. ♥️
Could you tell me the name of the books?
I studied Chinese in Taiwan in about 1983! I loved the bopomofo system so much as it made learning Chinese easy!!! Now I want to remember. I had already studied Mandarin in HK before I left for Taipei. Then I got pretty fluent after a year in Taipei as my best friend couldn't speak English. Now my vocabulary is so bad but what i remember i can say quite quickly so it's really difficult to find my level in a classroom. Am going to refresh my bopomofo here and see what other resources Grace Mandarin has. All other comments from one year ago tho'.......
Still studying?
Omg from Singapore wanting to learn zhuyin finally a decent and free one. If I could I would donate lesson fees to you!
Hi! I’m glad that you like the lesson! If you want, you can support my channel at ko-fi.com/gracemandarin ☺️ I would really appreciate it! :)
This is a quite comprehensive and useful video for learning Bopofomo (Zhuyin).
This is such clear instruction with needed repetition and it helps to remember the characters of the hanzi as well as zhuyin.
I don't have english as first language, I speak spanish but there is not a lot good info about how to pronunce or learn chinese in youtube in my language, so I'm glad to find your channel, is so easy to understood you, even if I'm still working at learning english. Thank you so much for you help.
Oye fernanda como vas?
I took Mandarin (via pinyin) in college for 3 semesters in the US. We of course learned the simplified characters. Now that it’s nearly 12 years later I’ve been hooked on some Taiwanese shows and have the umph to pick it back up. Realized Taiwan uses traditional, so I pulled up the traditional keyboard on my phone and was shocked to see the Zhuyin keyboard. I had never seen it in my studies. Very cool! Hopefully I can pick up on it easy. Learning the traditional version of the characters, may not be quite as easy. 😅😂 Thank you for this video! 😁🙏🏻
and how was your journey in learning zhuyin ? could you give me your story bitte :)
Thanks for the review. I learned this when I studied in Taiwan for a year in 1970 when I was 12 years old!
Finally i created flashcards for all the 注音. Thank you so much for releasing this video. Zhuyin makes learning chinese much more enjoyable! :)
Thanks you Grace , really useful tutorial and just nice for me started learning zhuyin recently. 😊
Thank you very much with those big tips, my chinese teacher has given up on us with the tones in every word, so your videos help me alot.
谢谢, 从以色列。
謝謝你，Grace老師！雖然我住在上海，我很喜歡繁體字，覺得注音符號很有趣。我想學習ㄅㄆㄇㄈ。：-）
既然我只学过简体字，我还理解了你写的话🤔
@@maximvazhov6904 把既然改为虽然
@@ks-op8pe 谢谢
感觉主要是好像感觉传统注音教老外似乎更准确，我感觉拼音教老外有点点混乱
@@zhiruiliu2433 那要看教的人，发音标准不标准。
I currently live in taiwan, not to study chinese, but I'm extremely interested in it! My Taiwanese friends help me, but thank you! It's hard to find resources to help with traditional chinese characters and zhuyin
For us Vietnamese, due to the many similarities in pronunciation with Chinese and due to the fact that we use the Latin alphabet, Zhuyin is actually a lot harder than Pinyin, so I think nearly all of the Chinese learners here use Pinyin
Yes but before 1975 the Chinese community in the south of Vietnam learned traditional characters and bopomofo. All the Chinese textbooks and curriculum and whatnot were from Republic of China
I wonder if Vietnamese could use a mixed script of bpmf and chu nom
Vinh Nanh
True, back in the days we also imported Chinese textbooks from Taiwan to Thailand
Really ? I'm vietnamese born and raised in Germany. So yes I'm very familiar with latin alphabet. I'm also very fluent in vietnamese (read through the entire new testament of the bible in vn).
I am at the start of my Chinese language learning journey and find it soo much easier to start learning Zhuyin than Pinyin because as @Garbaz mentioned - there is no need for context switching when I see and hear Zhuyin.
Because seeing the latin character of Pinyin connect to very different sound parts of my brain and I also have to remind myself, this is not fully correctly pronounced - because latin uses different parts of the mouth.
I honestly feel it to be a huge distraction for foreigners trying to learn Chinese. Because to me those Zhuyin characters actually look to me just the same as Russian, Indian or Japanese Characters - Symbols connected to specific sounds.
I find it even pointless to learn Pinyin - if it wouldn't be for the current China using it as their main tool of teaching Chinese(so many things are being programmed and created with Pinyin in mind).
Stay healthy and happy new year ^-^
@@xXHotaroXx well, so do you have difficulty learning Vietnamese alphabet? Because as I know, Vietnamese alphabet has many letters and digraphs that has different pronunciations from German.
For pinyin stuff, most Vietnamese people start learning Chinese after learning English, so they understand that pinyin is from a different language, it isn't supposed to have same pronunciation with either Vietnamese or English
It's like you can actually use Zhuyin alone to write a full sentence like latin alphabet but I think it's more cute to read when written atop the characters just like Furigana in Japanese.
In real life Zhuyin literally work as furigana in Taiwan. No one use it to write full sentence.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 oh I see. 🙂
Great video as always :)
I'm Jonas Thank you Jonas!
Great to watch your videos, Grace. What you're doing is creating lots of useful online materials for Chinese learners around the world. As a Chinese language learner, I'm thankful for people like you that I have more materials to learn from. Keep up with your work!
wow! subscribed for a week now and my mandarin is getting better and better! so easy to learn in your videos!
This is the answer to my question on your video (Must Have Chinese Learning Tools) on what is the small characters beside the hanzi and what is it for. I am very happy to find your channel in learning Chinese.
教得真好!!我是臺灣人😂我想要教我外國朋友，所以分享這個影片給他了😂謝謝妳😍
Sabes en qué aplicación puedo hacer amigos de taiwan?
我不知道，但是也許你可以來台灣！！！
I just learnt Zhuyin and I'm using it to type now. It's so great!
i have a question! what do you use to type?
@@user-pm2zv9fs5r I use Gboard on my android device!
how long did it took you to memorize it all?
@@lyhthegreat 1 day! But I managed to type it fluently after a few weeks
@@qoenntrell haha u must have a good memory
Thank you very much. This is exactly what I am looking for. In the past I am very curious of what it is. Now I have an idea what it is. Thank you.
Thanks for making this video, now I’m going to show my friends this video so they can understand what Zhuyin is :D
Thank you so much for making this video we appreciate it a lot!
There are not many videos on zhuyin so I was happy when I saw you uploaded it.
What a coincidence. Yesterday i just think about learning zhuyin 😂
Yay! Just delivered it at the right time for you haha
Me too....wow!!! 😂
Me too :0 this helps me because I want to move to Taiwan
Wow, 16k subscribers already. Your channel has grown fast, congratulations! You deserve it!
哇！ 非常謝謝妳！我知道拼音但我住在台灣所以正在學習注音喔
i always get ㄓ/ㄗ, ㄔ/ ㄘ, ㄕ / ㄙ, ㄛ / ㄜ and ㄣ / ㄥ confused, could you help clarify grace? maybe a separate video? haha
haha same
Don’t worry ， even as a Taiwanese , I have the same problem ！
idk if you got an answer and i'm not the grace you asked (and i hope you're still learning!) but:
ㄓ,ㄔ, and ㄕ all have a similar tongue position (mid-mouth, tongue curled a little in a u shape. my sides of tongue touch my teeth)
ㄗ, ㄘ, ㄙ all have a front-of-mouth sound, also similar tongue position.
ㄓ: "zhr" sound. or try pronouncing "jrrr"
ㄗ : "dz" sound. hold a "z" sound out.
ㄔ: "chr". google translate "eat" and it's this sound exactly
ㄘ: "tss" sound.
ㄕ: "shr" sound. google translate "wet".
ㄙ: "s". make an s sound and activate your vocal chords. google translate "tear/rip"
ㄛ : "oh" with a soft "o".
ㄜ : "uh"
ㄣ: "en" tongue touching forward-mouth
ㄥ: "eng" tongue touching mid-mouth
i hope this helps at least a little
ㄓ/ㄗ, ㄔ/ ㄘ, ㄕ / ㄙ Curving you tongue or flat tongue
ㄛ / ㄜ O / Errr
ㄣ / ㄥ N / Ownnn
We often encountered same problem
I love this lesson because personally for me I find that zhuyin is much more easier than pinyin also I always has a love for the culture and the people also I find that by using the system it makes me more closer to the language
I'm so glad you made this video! Please make more Bopomofo videos. I bought a lot of Taiwanese story books because I'm interested in Taiwan, but I was worried because they only have Bopomofo with the characters and nothing else. I subscribed to your channel now.
Me podrias decir el nombre de los libros?
@@minitrox4312 No se los nombres porque aún no se leer chino. Estos son libros para niños taiwaneses que encontré en una tienda de libros usados.
Hello!! im a chinese language major student from korea. your video is very useful!!!!! thank you!!
The real advantage of zhuyin is that it is much faster to type than pinyin because for many words it uses fewer symbols than pinyin uses letters.
I wouldn't say it's an advantage. The difference in speed isn't that great once you get used to it tho, in fact it's just like type English or any other latin alphabetical languages. hence there isn't a demand to change or revise the Pinyin system. As someone who type in English, you wouldn't be complaining about typing english, even though some long common words "responsibility" or "dictionary" or "establishment" are quite a handful to type, right? In fact, we are able to type them out rather quickly...
Pardon my ignorance, do you write zhuyin or pinyin on a device to obtain the actual simplified or traditional text?
@@litog888 Most use pinyin, but in Taiwan they use Zhuyin
@@sasino Yes I know. I learned my zhuyin when I'm still oblivious about devices other than a book bound dictionary. If u know what I'm talking ab then u know zhuyin is not the way to search for words nor its meaning. But it is in pinyin. I just find it much easier to do that in the latter.
@@litog888 True, I mainly want to learn zhuyin for the sake of it, because it's interesting and seems simple, but I know pinyin is the one that we'll actually end using
Good job spreading more awareness of Taiwanese mandarin 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Wow I was watching your other videos and thought of learning it! Then this video came up!
Haha great! I hope you find it useful! ;)
I’ve learned bits of pieces of zhuyin, mainly for the purpose of reading children’s books. The hardest bit is trying to memorise each zhuyin symbol. The initials were quite easy, I matched the zhuyin symbol to a chinese hanzi which has the same initial and also looks similar, for example ㄉ and 刀, ㄅ and 包 etc. However, the finals are much harder to find logic like this, so I gave up haha. Maybe I should just brute force memorise it.
Yes, just use flashcards for that, the symbols are really few ;P I anyone could memorize zhuyin in just a week with flashcards
Wow !! Before that I didn’t even know about its existence, here in Russia I am studying Punthua and we naturally use 拼音. In Russia, we do not use the Latin alphabet, instead of it we have the Cyrillic alphabet, so I have no problems with perception 拼音, which many write about. However, 珠 音 does have some interesting advantages. I think someday I will learn it !!! Although I am only a freshman ....
注音，not 珠音
This video cleared up everything I need to know when keyboard shopping down in guanghua XD, cheers from a fellow ntu student
I have been binge watching a lot of your videos! Thank you so much for the help! You have a new subscriber! 谢谢你
Thank you so much. Being used to pinyin for so long, when reading zhuyin I have to turn off that part of my brain and kinda relearn Mandarin pronunciation.
Thank you for sharing; it reminds me of learning zhu yin at my young age. That, now more and more peoples, trying to learn pinyin instead; of zhu yin.
Wow over 26 thousand subscribers...you've gotten so popular. What an accomplishment! Congratulations.
Also, it's about time you made this video :-P
Coleman Wow I haven’t heard from you for a long time!! Welcome back 😂
@@GraceMandarinChinese yes and I see you've been busy in the meantime! Keep it up!
謝謝你！ We need more resources on this, Zhuyin rocks
I-- I'm trying to learn so i can communicate with my online friends. But... so hard :")
Thank you for the video, i will continue watching this until i understand
As a regular Chinese user, made a simple typo in five minutes ago, than this video gets into my suggestion
Thanks RUclips!
But still, good video👍👍
I missed the Zhuyin train because US schools were already teaching Chinese with Pin Yin by the 2000s. When I studied in Taiwan it was just traditional characters being taught in the Universities for foreigners.
Thank you so much! I got some great reading materials from Taiwan, but because I learned pin yin, I have never been able to fully exploit them because I have to constantly look up words in the dictionary-- problem solved🎉🎉
Great practice! I am finally learning 注音 in hopes that it forces me to memorize the tones as I type words in my phone
I have never worked with zhuyin so I can only appreciate the theoretical advantages. People who are accustomed to languages written in Latin script already know that the spelling and pronunciation of words can be very different (I can only judge this for English, German and French), so the way that pinyin might not accurately reflect the pronunciation is like a very minor thing, because with Chinese pinyin, you never actually have to think about a pinyin being pronounced differently in different contexts, please correct me if I'm wrong. So for the example of 'liu', it will always be pronounced the way it's supposed to, even though it does not explicitly have the 'o' sound. It's basically like why almost nobody uses the IPA alphabet even though it is much more precise. For me personally pinyin will probably always be more convenient. I've seen that Taiwanese people when they write on a phone/computer they will also use zhuyin, that was interesting to me!
I have a frustrating experience. Not knowing where to begin or hitting a plateau can feel demoralizing and make it hard to hit the books and study like you know you should…Having friends from other cultures makes me more creative. In fresh ways about space and how people create their own world and environment. It is best way to connect between creative thinking and cross-cultural relationships
I have learned a lot! I’ll show my colleague how am i good at this soon ha ha! Thank you so much
The Chinese keyboards i use to write are zhuyin ( tradicional), pinyin(tradicional), pinyin ( simplified ) , cangjie ( tradicional),canjie for Cantonese, jyutping ( Cantonese) and Chinese handwriting keyboard.
Hey Grace! 偶然發現妳的頻道，覺得妳的影片很棒！ 我也有在教中文，我會推薦妳的影片給我的學生！另外提供給妳一個idea， 最近我上課的時候有跟學生講到日文對台灣中文用語的影響（比方說達人、素人、便當、殘念.....etc.），也許未來妳可以以這個為主題來拍影片，希望可以幫助妳！我之前也有想要做類似的影片，所以我記下了很多的ideas，我覺得蠻適合製作成影片的，但我太忙了，所以一直沒有真的做出來，如果妳有興趣的話，我也可以跟妳分享我的ideas來增加頻道妳的內容。再跟我說吧！希望妳繼續加油！☺️
謝謝你的分享以及寶貴的idea！有什麼新的idea想法隨時都可以跟我分享哦！非常感謝！我會繼續加油的💪
this youtube channel is a blessing
Thank you Grace! Very useful and will definitely revisit this video often!
I never knew till now why liu in 拼音 always sound like the English name, "Leo," to me; that liou to liu along with the xu,qu,cu, ci,zi,shi,chi changes caused me to have to relearn pronunciation several times (it's still not great lol). Thanks Gracie
fascinating! i did not that there is a system like this that is actually in use! i had already wondered why nobody had thought about making a more "efficient" system than pinyin to be able to put chinese into phonetic writing. now i learn that such a thing is commonly used in taiwan!
i find it unfortunate that it is so "closely tied" to traditional chinese characters and only used in taiwan.
thank you for the video
OMG 😍
I wonder if you saw my comment on your previous video because this is exactly what I've asked!
Although I want to learn Mandarine, I sometimes find Taiwanese interesting. 🤔
Thanks ❤️
Zhuyin is Mandarin.
@@TalaySeedam I thought Pinyin is Mandarin
@@hams2410 but this vedio teaches Zhuyin… what you are watching is not Mandarin of you thought.maybe you could find some vedio about pinyin,that will help you.
@@2209-j8x I know this is not for Mandarin, but like I said, Taiwanese is interesting so I watched this video.
Thank you.
Thank you soo much, I wanted to study Zhuyin, I hope I can visit want to visit Taiwan soon💕
Wow new video!I was looking forward to watch your video
Very good tutorials tx.
I have been doing self study on these 汉子。 using pinyin. For me this is much more simpler. However, i feel using this cu yin... the pronunciation seems more accurate to my ear.
Maybe this has to do with a simplified version of the 汉子。
I am having the hardest time learning this because I actually initially tried learning Zhuyin when started learning Mandarin but resources outside of Taiwan did not exist. Now I am too used to Pinyin to learn another system. Good think your videos have both!
tbh this is very easy, and I'm learning it just for the sake of knowing it XD it's not really useful to me because I'm studying Standard Chinese with Simplified characters, but I'd still like to learn how to read this
@@sasino pinyin is easier
Thanks you Grace for creating these videos!
I always found absurd to realize that 1.6 billion Chinese are typing latin alphabet on their smartphones all day long, to be able to see their own language. Specially given how arrogant the Chinese government likes to talk as if they don't need anything from the West. It's like if Europeans were writing on cyrilic keyboards to be able to print latin words on their screens. Even though I used to write on pinyin, I now prefer 注音 , feels more unique and local.
Exactly!
Thank you for your video. So good. I have tried to learn bopomofo, but still not easy for me.
加油加油💪
ㄒㄧㄝˋㄒㄧㄝˋㄌㄠˇㄕ Grace!
Thank you, this tutorial is so helpful! 🎉
Thank you Grace! Wonderful as always
Wow, awesome video! Great job. I love that you taught all of them.
Amazing video! Super helpful as always! In another video could you show how to use Bopomofo to type on the keyboard?
I wish China would adopt this system too or at least rework pinyin because the sounds aren't represented by the latin alphabet well in it's current form.
Thank you, very interesting.
I could have started learning Chinese when I was 10 or in similar time instead of now. Pinyin was the problem. It was not fun enough to learn those rules exceptions. I kept pronouncing xiexie as ksye ksye. If it was bopomofo, it would be more exciting to learn, because children like new things. I learned Cyrillic alphabet this way. Maybe if I knew bopomofo, I would not quit learning.
This is great. I learn Pinyin. But I also want to learn Zhuyin to expand my mind.
i think people in hong kong or macau use zhuying or something similar to it as well? i mean i've seen them typing using some weird characters on their mobile phones as well in some hk drama, it's gonna be pretty impossible to type cantonese using pinying because mandarin only has 4 tones but cantonese has like 9 tones.
Thank you!! This is so helpful! I always use pinyin now I can use zhuyin as well!!
Subscribed already. I’m from Thailand, I have just been learning traditional Chinese. Anyway you’re so cut.😍😍😍
When they were updating the Chinese writing system and originally wanted to remove Hanzi and replace it - why didn't they just use Zhuyin?! It looks so easy and capable!! omg.. instead they simplified the characters..
感謝，正想要教外國朋友注音，一來youtube搜bopomofo第一個就是這麼讚的影片!
Thank you, I am just about to teach foreign friends zhuyin, the first video that showed up when I searched for bopomofo on youtube is such a great vid!
謝謝！
Whilst Zhuyin indeed contains far fewer orthographic reductions than does Pinyin, it's not true that Zhuyin doesn't use any shortcuts. For example, ㄨ and ㄩ are NOT pronounced the same way in ALL environments. The ㄨ of ㄉㄨㄥ and the ㄩ of ㄒㄩㄥ are pronounced like something leaning towards ㄛ/ㄨ and ㄧㄛ/ㄧㄨ, respectively. Furthermore, both Zhuyin and Pinyin alike use ㄢ to represent an -ên (ㄝㄋ) sound when following 一 or ㄩ, as well as spelling buo/puo/muo/fuo as bo/po/mo/fo.
謝謝你老師！你的視頻真有用。在台灣有不有注音slang words (as internet slang)? Because I think I have came across with something like that.
嗯嗯有！For instance, people type “ㄏㄏ”(Zhuyin), and the original one is “呵呵” ☺️
I taught myself 注音party because of a Taiwan game show on characters, 一字千金 （？）, and partly for reading 注音文 in chats like on the website twitch. I don't know if it will be helpful for pronunciation since I already know 拼音。 I have no idea how I would learn to type it on a computer though unless I actually bought a Taiwanese keyboard or taped sticker all over my current keyboard (it sucks that you can't see where the zhuyin is and you have to guess where the letters are.
Gracias , Grace. muy amena la clase. Entendí muy bien. Hay es que practicarlo.
Zhuyin is very intuitive especially if you learn it with Chinese character identification. Romanized Pinyin, on the other hand, is like picking up another language with Latin letters. That's a real disconnect esp. for beginners
are u kidding me? you need to learn a tons of characters along with the pronunciation only to write a traditional character ? is much better type ai on the keyboard instead of zhuyin.
I don't think it has anything to do with the Pinyin or Zhuyin. I start with Pinyin and have no Chinese character identification problem. It's just memory. Just remember the character & its sound until the point that when you see the character, you hear the sound in your mind. Now you combine the sound with the character, boom no problem with mixing up the pinyin with the character anymore
Pinyin confuses beginner Chinese learners with Latin alphabet-based native languages.For example, Pinyin X sounds somehow close to "sh" but someone with Latin script background would read it as "eks" or "iks", and that makes reading pinyin feel a little bit annoying like reading French where most of the letters don't match their "supposed" sounds.
小時候不知道注音符號存在，老師教什麼就學什麼，如果那時候有選擇，我會選注音，現在太遲了，已經習慣用拼音打字。前幾年發現注音有盡量學，可是還需要蠻多時間才能記得哪個符號，尤其介音和韻母。
确实，用从小学拼音，给我看注音我还以为是日文，不懂怎么读😞
@@fq1220 我也有學日文唷！ 有幾個真的類似Hiragana
@@VicAndRoll 强👍
hello Grace, so could u show me how Taiwanese typing bopomofo on laptop or PC, i cant do it, tks for replying
Thanks for this. I'm gonna study it!!