The Excellence of Gen 5 Keldeo.

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool  Год назад +25

    I'm hosting a $2800+ Gen 3 OU Tournament. Check out the commentary here:
    www.youtube.com/@jimothygaming/videos

  • @saltlakeatrocity9771
    @saltlakeatrocity9771 Год назад +491

    Lets be real. If keldeo were released as a new pokemon nowadays, they would totally be given ice beam for flawless fighting/water/ice coverage, and an ability that immediately boosts sp.att or speed upon switch in.

    • @screwtokaiba
      @screwtokaiba Год назад +80

      Its actually kinda notable that despite the evident power creep in Gen 5, it was the gen that actually kinda stepped back in the movepool of the mons of the generation. Which is funny since this is the gen with arguably the highest average power level in gen and indivdiual pokemon in every format. Its not even older gen being tame - gen 1 movepool were super meme, and 2-3-4 isnt too far off. Its just 5 taking a dip
      Key example - several water type lacking Ice Beam(previously its iirc only Magikarp), the dragon trio lacking Earthquake. The starter trio lacking Earthquake(was on every starter until gen 5). Before BW2 Excadrill actually lacks Iron Head and to this day cant even use Stone Edge which is surprising considering the kind of Pokemon it is aesthetically
      Theres outlier like Drudiggon having insanely good movepool(basically Garchomp minus set up move but have Glare which is actually insanely good and Thunder Fang), and Hydreigon(compared to Garchomp it arguably have a more diverse move option due to being more elementally themed. Garchomp movepool were good/better focused but it reads more like a basic Ground type with a token Dragon options. Contrast to Dragonite + Tyranitar's Kaiju moveset, and Salamence being randomly nonsensical due to Events/Egg moves)

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 Год назад +7

      He gets Icy Wind, which is ice beam but multitarget and always slows the opponent instead of sometimes freezing. It only has 5 less base power too, so...
      Yeah no, keldeo is still objectively not OU strength and instead should be ubers.

    • @saltlakeatrocity9771
      @saltlakeatrocity9771 Год назад +38

      @@vyor8837 icy wind isnt really ice coverage. Decent chip on ice weak foes for sure, that is pretty much it. Getting ice beam would be a game changer.

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 Год назад +1

      @@saltlakeatrocity9771 ice beam is literally only 5bp stronger.

    • @screwtokaiba
      @screwtokaiba Год назад +66

      @@vyor8837 Icy Wind is 55
      Ice Beam POST NERF was 90
      Ice Beam PRE NERF which was the one on gen 5 was 95
      Its literally 40 BP stronger which is at least 70% more damage

  • @6uKykJle
    @6uKykJle Год назад +33

    toxapex: comes in
    keldeo: "why ._."

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  Год назад +4

      That's an illegal Pokemon.

    • @6uKykJle
      @6uKykJle Год назад +1

      @@jimothycool it really is

    • @duck_cop
      @duck_cop Год назад +5

      I battled someone on showdown with a Keldeo against a team of Amoonguss, Mega Latias, and Jellicent. Lmao Keldeo has so many counters now, it’s so unfortunate. The Tapus really ruin it, too :(

  • @lupuszero9879
    @lupuszero9879 Год назад +76

    It took me until very recently to realise that Keldeo's signature move is called Secret Sword, and it's not Sacred Sword like other swords of justice.

  • @jaylee7165
    @jaylee7165 Год назад +17

    Toxapex to Keldeo is like ethics to Iron Mugulis: The ultimate character foil

  • @MrExdeath57
    @MrExdeath57 Год назад +60

    Funny how keldeo will be the only swords of justice that will most likely not get a paradox form. Also gen 5 was peak for me hyper offensive high octane battles

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm Год назад +2

      Kinda wack for them to just leave the set incomplete, it's not like they'd even have to come up with a new design considering future paradoxes are robo versions of the original Mon.

    • @wallygropius4451
      @wallygropius4451 Год назад +2

      Keldeo is a mythical and with no equivalent from Johto (there is no 4th legendary beast). Celebi is the only mythical but Victini would be its equivalent.

  • @chilitofu3512
    @chilitofu3512 Год назад +49

    bro if i have a keldeo i'm naming it sailor mars

  • @DGFTardin
    @DGFTardin Год назад +23

    I never get tired of the amount of DKC, Chrono Trigger and other great OST's Jimothy uses on his videos. This might be a Pokémon channel but I wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much without all this musical variety.

    • @LukeA471
      @LukeA471 Год назад +7

      Same. Phoenix wright is my favorite choice so far

    • @melikmourali2072
      @melikmourali2072 Год назад +3

      The other great OST's are mostly just Grant Kirkhope (DK64 and Banjo-Kazooie composer), but that's all we need really. It is funny that all the themes in this channel have some whimsical quality, which makes Jimothy a wizard of some sort, sharing with us the secrets of competitive Pokemon.

  • @jossuecabrera8611
    @jossuecabrera8611 Год назад +21

    I wonder of gholdengo is trying to do something before he is found. If so, this could be devastating

  • @tictacctical3030
    @tictacctical3030 Год назад +18

    I can’t believe gholdengho. How could he smh

  • @amateraceon5202
    @amateraceon5202 Год назад +47

    At the time, I think we were all ok with Keldeo not getting Ice Beam considering how good it was, but as it is now he probably needs it to keep up

    • @joshuacross3599
      @joshuacross3599 Год назад

      I'm not so sure, I feel like it would do quite well in gen 9 OU right now given how it would match up with a lot of the top threats like Great Tusk, Gliscor, and Kingambit. Gholdengo could be a problem though now that I think about it.

  • @ProfessorChad0570
    @ProfessorChad0570 Год назад +175

    Is it just me or a Paradox Keldeo would be an awesome idea?

    • @tsawy6
      @tsawy6 Год назад +8

      Considering that we got Iron Leaves I imagine we will

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 Год назад +19

      @@tsawy6nah there’s no 4th member for the gen 2 guys

    • @misters6749
      @misters6749 Год назад +15

      It all depends on the execution.
      Paradox Suicune is a banger, Paradox Raikou also, to a lesser extent. But Iron Leaves and Crown are literally just 'bots. Maybe if it was made into some type of cyborg-unicorn-pony it would be cool.

    • @boop53
      @boop53 Год назад +19

      @@kefkapalazzo1maybe we could get a paradox ho-oh then, as its the master of the legendary beasts
      alternatively, maybe a paradox Celebi, as both Keldeo and Celebi are mythicals

    • @Aoi_Tori_
      @Aoi_Tori_ Год назад +10

      Iron Donkey.

  • @MajorBlitz
    @MajorBlitz Год назад +7

    Actually Toxicroak is one of the best counters against Keldeo in gen 5. Immune to water, resists secret sword, and not weak to icy wind and hidden power grass/ghost. Against CM sets, you can also keep pace with bulk up and end up ahead with drain punch

  • @DonDavelle
    @DonDavelle Год назад +7

    Simple, if your gen 5 team didn't gave an Amoongus or Water Absorb Jellicent than good luck switching into it if rain happens to be up. Kinda helps that Water/fighting is the perfect stab combination that prevents every other weather setter from switching in to Keldeo without fear of getting ohkoed. The only awful thing about Keldeo is that your essentially fighting without an ability and yet it's still that good.

  • @marcus6918
    @marcus6918 Год назад +3

    fuck this thing i always lost because of that damn horse

  • @poodymeiner3125
    @poodymeiner3125 Год назад +21

    Really put some firepower behind rain. Thing kicks ass on any archetype in gen 5, the counters are super specific and the checks are are all pursuit weak. Requires at least 2 checks on all teams or else it’s a big problem

  • @its_me_jamie
    @its_me_jamie Год назад +3

    I always watch Jimothy Cool videos on my lunch break at work. It is very excellent and enjoyable.

  • @christopherbennett5858
    @christopherbennett5858 Год назад +6

    I do hope that the paradox trios of gen 9 will eventually reveal a Paradox Keldeo and Ho-oh

  • @joshuacross3599
    @joshuacross3599 Год назад

    I absolutely love gen 5 OU. I ran a small singles tournament discord server for a few months with some friends and our gen 5 ou tournament was our first non random battle tournament. I think I developed into the competitive player I am today during that tournament. I learned to be much more flexible in trying new things out and to give less traditional teams a chance. I'd say that dragmag is my favorite team archetype to this day.

  • @pawouapproval984
    @pawouapproval984 Год назад +9

    any chance you could cover weatherless teams in the gens that were predominantly weather based?

    • @jerrytaylor4036
      @jerrytaylor4036 Год назад +1

      You mean Gen. 5 with infinite weather? Every GEN weather’s been really good.

  • @ZaWaterPumpkin
    @ZaWaterPumpkin Год назад +1

    Keldeo for a very long time has been my 4th favourite Pokemon of all time, It’s very fun to see it get it’s own video since I rarely see that

  • @renevillela129
    @renevillela129 Год назад +1

    I really like your humor haha you’ve got a new subscriber

  • @symbolic3
    @symbolic3 Год назад

    Great video! Keldeo is one of my favorite mons to use in Gen 5 OU. Even several mons that resist it really don't want to be switching in on specs hydro pump. Latios can easily get worn down this way and possibly even KO'd the second time it comes in on Keldeo.

  • @boxy2k8
    @boxy2k8 Год назад +4

    Tell you what, it's so tragic that Gholdengo has so much potential to be a nice pokemon with his signature ability, Good as Gold, yet he just can't seem to shake his attachment to crime. I believe that he is being lead down a dark path by Old Money. He needs true rehabilitation

  • @azeria1
    @azeria1 Год назад +2

    Imagine going back in time and telling gen 5 ou players that sandstorm is the worst weather in the future like sandstorm really needs excdrill in the next dlc

  • @oireal7261
    @oireal7261 Год назад +3

    I was scrolling through Nat Dex Ubers and saw Mega Blastoise there, and have no clue how it managed to get there. Would a video covering it be possible?

    • @platypuspatrol9625
      @platypuspatrol9625 Год назад +3

      tldr; shell smash made it a ridiculously strong boost sweeper

    • @zuils
      @zuils Год назад

      @@platypuspatrol9625not only that, mega launcher was super good with its movepool

    • @Oliver-uz1fs
      @Oliver-uz1fs Год назад +1

      Shell smash made torterra from useless to semi worthy in ou, imagine something with good ability, stats and move pool, yeah

    • @shatteredsentient5321
      @shatteredsentient5321 Год назад

      That's my boi

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville Год назад

    I have seen a lot of talks about Pokemon who can deal with Blissey. Sometimes I get the feeling that Blissey isn't worth running because of "with this it can even break through Blissey".

  • @haciendaddy
    @haciendaddy Год назад +3

    I got the horses like Terrak.

  • @FlemetAeton
    @FlemetAeton Год назад

    I remember getting to about 1600 ranking in gen 5 without legendaries or weather setters since I just preferred not to. Definitely felt like matchup fishing.

  • @kalarse
    @kalarse Год назад +3

    Damn, all the seemingly good mons are involved in some henious acts, they must be stopped

  • @SuperPokekami
    @SuperPokekami Год назад +2

    I know it doesn't need a buff, but keldeos ability be a SPA counterpart to Justified

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 Год назад

      That's a thing now

  • @Significantharrassment
    @Significantharrassment Год назад

    "Kayurem black" holy shit that had me dying

  • @Mushrooms683
    @Mushrooms683 Год назад +1

    Imma play this meta now because the ladder waits will be SO SHORT.

  • @AI-DreigonGPT
    @AI-DreigonGPT Год назад

    I need news about Garganacl he salt cured bar then was never seen again

  • @MaahirMomtaz12
    @MaahirMomtaz12 Год назад +2

    Then Toxapex came in two gens later and gutted its usefulness

  • @ashmander3465
    @ashmander3465 Год назад +1

    Mlp, quick draw mc graw, el kabong all in one package

    • @virtualcolt
      @virtualcolt Год назад

      Keldeo: *in a dumb voice after going into his resolute form* You see Blissey and Chansey, your powers of annoying stall are nothing FOR THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP (kills them with secret sword)

  • @Kubosarutobi
    @Kubosarutobi Год назад

    I used to play alot of gen 5 ou and still do from time to time. Keldeo was and is a staple in every team I build. I favourite team is weather less teams and weather less with tyranitar and Keldeo with a choice Specs is possibly the best pokemon I've used in almost any OU format except Tyranitar and Snorlax in gen 3 and 2 OU

  • @LlamaDJ
    @LlamaDJ 8 месяцев назад

    keldeo is out standing in his field

  • @subtodicerat8305
    @subtodicerat8305 Год назад

    another good day because of jim uploading

  • @jesseunderwood7643
    @jesseunderwood7643 Год назад

    i am not gonna lie growing up i was a Johto region boy my Feraligatr was it until gen Five released and the creators made me basically a Fierce battling Water Pony that could conduct these giant water blasts from all four of its Hooves and glide through the air so majestically i was hooked by its design like its a Heroic Musketeer as well now that i played Scarlet and Violet and the new moves are coming out like Scald is back out i would love to see Keldeo get a new Ability for sure! possibly i would even like to a new move that is is available to Keldeo or his new unlock-able signature move maybe a Z move or something I have pushed My boy down no offense to Feraligatr but he has not got the same amount of love so many Crocodiles out there not enough Mythical Water Ponies with A Secret Sword you know what i am saying not to mention in my top 6 mons i put Marshadow i cant help but move this dude as well

  • @senpai2.054
    @senpai2.054 Год назад +1

    keldeo is like if poliwrath was successful

  • @lottabee
    @lottabee Год назад

    7:47 Kai-Yuurem? Mr. Jim?

  • @radiantreploid3214
    @radiantreploid3214 Год назад +2

    Gen 5 OU is the Marvel 3 of Pokemon.
    Its absolutely a broken mess, but its MY broken mess.

  • @matteoc83
    @matteoc83 Год назад +2

    Imagine of this thing actually have an useful ability instead of justified, he would be even more broken.

  • @Malphoria
    @Malphoria Год назад

    I’ve always wondered why they gave 30% burn chance to a WATER move with 100% accuracy and good damage but no fire move has anything nearly as good without some sort of drawback.

  • @dawnclark9921
    @dawnclark9921 Год назад

    Hollup was that Old Money?!

  • @misters6749
    @misters6749 Год назад +6

    Keldeo: EXISTS
    Quaquaval: TEACH ME!!!!
    Poliwrath: *Sobbing Noises*

  • @ladonmccabe
    @ladonmccabe Год назад

    Gen 5 was the generation that caused me to quit pokemon, because I hated the new designs.
    Gen 5 was also the gen that brought me back to pokemon, and got me into competitive singles.
    It still is my favorite generation, competitively.

  • @MongoIndyleo
    @MongoIndyleo Год назад

    I think Gen V OU might be one of the best metas ever if weather wasn't permanent. I like permanent weather actually and think it gives a lot of character to Gen V though.

  • @Xtreme-qk5qg
    @Xtreme-qk5qg Год назад

    Keldeo should have ice beam, they did my boy dirty😢

  • @Shinxed
    @Shinxed Год назад

    bring back the earthbound jingle at the end!

  • @Nadid_Dhrabb
    @Nadid_Dhrabb Год назад

    Kaiurem outrage is very fun to click

  • @hombrebotella6911
    @hombrebotella6911 Год назад

    I'd love a video about Gen 9 Magnezone ❤❤❤

  • @travisteatime
    @travisteatime Год назад

    "Gen V OU may be a broken mess, but it is **our** broken mess!"

  • @realmdarkness
    @realmdarkness Год назад

    Permanent rain in Gen 5 = free eats for Keldeo!

  • @jerrytaylor4036
    @jerrytaylor4036 Год назад

    Can we do a video on Dragonite’s history in OU and how it survives power creep.

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Год назад +1

      Agility+Wrap, Coverage, Extreme Speed, Multiscale, Flyinium Z Fly, Heavy-Duty Boots, Tera Normal Extreme Speed - in that order.

  • @felipesilva3732
    @felipesilva3732 Год назад

    Long story short. The 3 musketeers didn't want a 4th member because they were dumb

  • @vladfi1
    @vladfi1 Год назад

    I never played Gen 5 but would love to learn about it by watching more Jim Cool content on that gen. Would also love to see some gen 5 laddering!
    Ps. Is sun banned in Gen 5, or is it just outclassed by rain/sand?

    • @screwtokaiba
      @screwtokaiba Год назад

      its basically near singlehandedly carried by Venusaur. After the speed boost weather ability + weather starter blanket ban was applied to everything, it drops off since it effectively banned Venusaur

  • @AI-DreigonGPT
    @AI-DreigonGPT Год назад

    Keldeo is probably the best gen 5 OU pokémon in my opinion

  • @aldwych285
    @aldwych285 Год назад

    What if there was permanent weather in Gen 9?

  • @TheRedStinger82
    @TheRedStinger82 Год назад

    My favorite mythical

  • @vyor8837
    @vyor8837 Год назад +1

    If the game came out today he'd get quick banned and for good reason.

  • @frogtopia8624
    @frogtopia8624 Год назад

    Does anyone know how many gen 3 ou players are out there? I just hit top 300 on the ladder after playing only a few weeks and im wondering if that is an achievment actually worth being proud of.

  • @moyai5317
    @moyai5317 Год назад

    Keldeo helps alot vs ho on sand teams

  • @RicanNY7
    @RicanNY7 6 месяцев назад

    What's the difference between Serect Sword and Sacred Sword? And do they both transform it?

    • @EightFigga
      @EightFigga 5 месяцев назад

      Secret sword is special. Sacred sword is physical

  • @DkKobaADV
    @DkKobaADV Год назад +2

    BW is insane.

  • @lefi_is_here
    @lefi_is_here Год назад

    We all know gholdengo has to be committing fraud. How else would he get a body made of solid gold?

  • @thefatcontrollershat
    @thefatcontrollershat Год назад

    endscreen is just "good" now?

  • @tecul1
    @tecul1 Год назад +1

    too true

  • @evougaming5605
    @evougaming5605 Год назад +1

    Good video

  • @chess_fella
    @chess_fella Год назад +1

    Blissey’s life is ruined.

    • @fen_u9401
      @fen_u9401 Год назад +3

      as someone who has played a few adv ou games
      *LET IT GET RUINED.*

    • @magdakos4690
      @magdakos4690 Год назад

      Good.

    • @melikmourali2072
      @melikmourali2072 Год назад

      ​@@fen_u9401 I think ADV OU Blissey is my favorite in terms of gameplay. It is very strong as a wall but can still be used offensively. However, it is not as easy to support as in other generations. You can easily pressure it with Spikes, Rock Spam, Banded Metagross and Explosion from various mons.
      After that, all you get to see after gen 6 is Eviolite Seismic Toss Chansey and its demonic teammates : Regen-spam, Gliscor / Landorus, Clefable, Quagsire... I'm super fine with dealing with just Blissey and Skarm lol

    • @fen_u9401
      @fen_u9401 Год назад

      @@melikmourali2072 aight, thats true
      offensive blissey is objectively baller.
      but my problem is: i suck at teambuilding,
      and when i get a special attacker in, i know that blissey will come in for free if i do not have spikes up
      and if i do, well its got softboiled
      and even if i get a physical mon in, it is so fat with max hp max defense it might just do under half and it gets to switch out
      blissey is a pokemon you can take out with eyplosion, but explosion mindgames are truly terrifying
      so yea, its truly a massive wall and stallbreaker and a stop to any special attacker or weak physical attacker

  • @amb1ance
    @amb1ance Год назад

    This is massive

  • @lordinfernape4753
    @lordinfernape4753 Год назад

    People who use the "identity argument" dont know what thjey talkin about
    A competitive metagame should be aboput the competitiveness, which means making sure to reward skill
    Allowing Keldeo and Latios restricts teambuilding in such a big way that team structures make you require to use soimething or else you lose and even then it is unreasonably difficult, near impossible to check every threat, it doesnt matter what team style you use, you just get destroyed by one Pokemon no matter what
    Keeping broken stuff around to check other broken stuff around is not how things should be done imo, cuz if thats the case then lets just start every generation without bans, so Ubers becomes the new standard play format, which Im not totally against, but since competitive Pokemon has had initial banlist ever since gen1, it is how it works now.
    If the ban of keldeo and latios makes other Pokemon broken, then ban those too until nothing breaks the metagame, thats how it should be

  • @publickip
    @publickip Год назад

    LETS GOOOOOOOO
    MY GOAT

  • @aldwych285
    @aldwych285 Год назад

    Yeah, gen 5 really gets a bad rep among players. But I think that players should try the format a bit more. Maybe they’ll like it but who knows. Everyone has their own preferences anyways. I personally like the format because of its brokeness

  • @ThatGamerDude9000
    @ThatGamerDude9000 Год назад

    As cool as resolute form keldeo is, competitively, it just spoils one of his 4 moves. Good on showdown for detangling the form from the move.

    • @enoyna1001
      @enoyna1001 Год назад +2

      True, but let's be real, it's like running Scizor w/o Bullet Punch. Nobody should do it.

    • @ThatGamerDude9000
      @ThatGamerDude9000 Год назад

      @@enoyna1001 until temp6t redefines the meta with keldeo without secret sword as a weird, unexpected bait and switch strategy.

  • @magdakos4690
    @magdakos4690 Год назад +1

    Is it really ethical to investigate a Pokémon based on just rumors? Gholdengo has done its time and paid his debt to the society, I say we should give him a chance and a clean slate.

  • @AmberLB93
    @AmberLB93 Год назад

    Gen 5 OU has a slew of "broken" mons which is why it is balanced. Gen 2 OU with Snorlax is not balanced.

  • @keldeocrowned7276
    @keldeocrowned7276 Год назад

    nooooo

  • @slowpr0
    @slowpr0 Год назад

    For some reason this mon just does not seem Canon to me lol

  • @BiggestSniff
    @BiggestSniff Год назад

    i thought jellicent ruined keldeo

  • @eisendrag
    @eisendrag Год назад

    Shouldve been banned fight me

  • @hagetsuuu
    @hagetsuuu Год назад +2

    gen5sef

  • @Substantial-hf1rm
    @Substantial-hf1rm Год назад

    Ight i hate to be that guy, *but* as much as i adore gen 5 sprites there has always been one thing thats always bothered me.... Why the hell does Keldo have ass cheeks? Seriously to my knowledge it is the only pokemon with a clearly defined ass crack and this has bothered me ever since i was a kid 💀

  • @arandombomb5639
    @arandombomb5639 8 месяцев назад

    Keldeo doesn't have an ability

  • @lordinfernape4753
    @lordinfernape4753 Год назад

    You dont need gen5 OU to be brokenm in order to have fun with brokenm stfuff, just play Ubers lmao

  • @latrodectusmactans7592
    @latrodectusmactans7592 Год назад

    Hate this thing, should have 100% been banned. One of the worst limiters on viable Pokémon in the gen 5 meta.

  • @squamman631
    @squamman631 Год назад

    Lets go!!!! Common Keldeo W