For someone who's stepped away from your channel, a little while now, this project brings me back. Loved the series on this Evo, especially the undercarriage details, and elated to this beauty emerge from its cobwebbed cave. You have my attention.
FYI: Balance shafts have nothing to do with whether or not the engine builder balanced the rotating assembly. They're used to cancel out the vibrations you get as a result of all the pistons stopping and reversing direction (at tdc & bdc) at the same time in an inline engine.
no, the engines designed balance (mitsubishi not builder) depends on if you can delete the balance shafts, you can do them just find the toyotas 2AZ engines, but not in others
When you delete balance shafts you need the 1989/91 straight cut oil pump gears. The helical oem gears without a shaft in the block will want to walk into the oil pump housing. I have 4 sets and one set is for my wife's evo 9. I did it to my 92 galant vr4
Awesome to see this build revived. Such a shame your efforts in building the last engine were ruined by the tuner as I thought you did a great job building it
How do you miss that much spark knock though? Sasha is still a competent tuner so what was happening on the ECU side? I’d address those safeties and the knock system configuration before heading back. Run Shell 91 to figure out the curves, then move up to 94 to chase MBT.
I feel your pain on the organization thing. When I bought my Evo as a rolling shell, the guy I bought it from gave me a 5 gallon bucket with all the bolts for the drive train just thrown in it.
For the power steering on my Evo 8 I just unbolt the passenger motor mount and Jack up the motor on that side. Once you've done that you can slide the bolt through one of the holes in the pulley.
I feel your pain on the front end accessory drive. I am currently putting the initial miles on my 1990 Hyundai Sonata with a 4G64/4G63 hybrid and it is a massive pain to access belts and pulleys. Not a lot of tricks from my side; just the sweating and choice words.
I always get the EVO 6 videos you've guys made once in a while in my suggestions feed and has been a constant reminder of this build. Glad to see this is a new video on the build!
Will Sasha be tuning this new motor? He shouldn't be allowed near another 4G63 again if his excuse was you didn't tell him it was a hi-comp motor... You check for knock on every run! Even the stock ecu will give you a live knock CEL flash and can will retard timing to protect the engine. All in the past now though, you guys have done a great job! TWICE!!! I hope you get to enjoy the car now. Congratulations.
Omgggg I remember when we were all just focused about what sort of headlights you wanted to go with.. then the dyno session... Excited to see this car back.
Nice to see the build coming along. If you bought a crank why didn’t you go with a 94mm? A set of custom pistons would fit 150mm rods and just drive better.
Im glad you guys replaced your oil cooler. I knew someone who decided to do 3 rounds of sonic cleaning on his and his new motor ended up grenading itself. He ended up doing the process another time on another engine same outcome. What an expensive lesson to learn.
As an Evo guy this is a great video and the advice given is very sound, I know from experience, keep up the great work can’t wait to see the end results🤙
Since the oil cooler did seem like it was contaminated another thing you could have done other than cleaning it out is to put a filter element between the cooler and return line. This could be done if a cooler replacement couldn't be had or needed a quick fix. You could also put one before the cooler to help prevent contamination in the future.
The trick on the power steering pump is to understand that mitsubishi made it that way to weed out the weak and ensure only dedicated enthusiasts would own these cars and enjoy them.
10:1 CR is quite high for a classic 4G63. The stock is like 8.8:1 or something on an Evo 6. On Evo 9 it has MIVEC to compensate the high CR and timing.
New oil filters have a guarantee on the box. Reminds me of a great man that once said, “Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it 'guaranteed', I will. I got spare time.” 😂
Sigh…all the late night trauma working on my 91 GSX 4G63 comes flooding back. Every time I built that engine, I would say “maybe this time” 😂 albeit my builds were nowhere near this level. I was just a kid, on a limited budget - GM MAF translator in hand, and all night pulls on the street twisting those three dials, looking at blinking lights on that circuit board in a vane attempt to achieve a passable Air/Fuel Ratio.
An engine, not a motor 😋 (motors are electric, although I do call engine mounts motor mounts still). Amazing build, the Evo 6 got me into Japanese imports back in 99!
As much as your right to say the oil cooler maybe dirty and not worth the risk replacement is not always necessary. Serck motorsports clean all forms of coolers for elite motorsport teams and now with a base in the states I'd say its worth getting a quote from them before buying a new unit and fabricating it onto the car. I know your Canada but mail order could work I'd hope?
I'm gonna have to disagree PT. After watching you fiddle around with a transfer case and power steering pump I'm gonna stay with Subaru. They have their faults but atleast you can work on it. Also i seem to remember a certain abandoned STi still running and moving under its own power at the end of its build series. 😄
Not using a set of knock ears or similar is what caused this, regardless of comp ratio, experience with the engine, experience in tuning, tuner should have some form of independent knock detection device connected to his ears and should be actively listening for knock, knocking enough for it to be audible on the video and for it to annihilate the motor, would have clearly heard that through a set of knock ears, well before anything let go, and even before anything was close to being damaged. A garden hose hooked up to a set of ear muffs would suffice, I run a ‘seniors’ handheld microphone that’s had the mic extended onto a big metal clip that can be clipped onto the block, and a set of earphone used, can hear every little noise, even the dbw actuator, it’s that sensitive. Regardless, damage is done, hoping everything goes to plan this time around.
@@speedacademy yea prob should go back and watch it to be honest. Must be more to it than meets the eye if he couldn’t hear it through the ears then, 4g aren’t that noisy that you wouldn’t hear it over the ambient engine noise.
DSM's have got to be one of the most unforgiving engines when it comes to tuning. They will damned sure make BIG power, but you get frisky with the timing, or it runs just the slightest bit lean, and you will pay for it (literally).
Soo happy to see this build again. I know how much you love this car, and rightfully so. Evos are killer cars. Can't wait to see the final product, it's gonna rip. Sorry STI guys, Pete's right, it's just a superior car.. Ps please tune the sh&t out of it.
The tuner ingnored the danger to manifold warning
Funny but that was an eclipse, even though the engine is the same. At least that car(the eclipse) didn't go into space...
Finally Evo episode coming after rest for so long 😊❤
@@MrBenstero bro nobody likes a smartass
No 3 nitrous bottles. LoL fast but furious
@@MrBenstero
That Eclipse had the crappy Dodge FWD engine. No 4G63T
For someone who's stepped away from your channel, a little while now, this project brings me back. Loved the series on this Evo, especially the undercarriage details, and elated to this beauty emerge from its cobwebbed cave. You have my attention.
Same situation, left for a while, back for 4g63
I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PICKED UP THIS BUILD AGAIN!
Such a shame how this ended last time. Well on it's way to destroying a STI. Good to see it rising from the grave to live again.
FYI: Balance shafts have nothing to do with whether or not the engine builder balanced the rotating assembly.
They're used to cancel out the vibrations you get as a result of all the pistons stopping and reversing direction (at tdc & bdc) at the same time in an inline engine.
I was wondering about that too.
no, the engines designed balance (mitsubishi not builder) depends on if you can delete the balance shafts, you can do them just find the toyotas 2AZ engines, but not in others
one of my favorite cars in your stable, I'm so glad it's finally getting brought back to life 🤙🤙🤙
When you delete balance shafts you need the 1989/91 straight cut oil pump gears. The helical oem gears without a shaft in the block will want to walk into the oil pump housing. I have 4 sets and one set is for my wife's evo 9. I did it to my 92 galant vr4
Awesome to see this build revived. Such a shame your efforts in building the last engine were ruined by the tuner as I thought you did a great job building it
Nice to see this build back!!! Would like to see the amber side marker back, this car need more contrast on the outside 🤪
How do you miss that much spark knock though? Sasha is still a competent tuner so what was happening on the ECU side?
I’d address those safeties and the knock system configuration before heading back. Run Shell 91 to figure out the curves, then move up to 94 to chase MBT.
"maybe I can reach around the back"
DP, knowing you as well as I do, you left me hanging there, a golden opportunity.
I came through in the end (that's what she said)
I feel your pain on the organization thing. When I bought my Evo as a rolling shell, the guy I bought it from gave me a 5 gallon bucket with all the bolts for the drive train just thrown in it.
For the power steering on my Evo 8 I just unbolt the passenger motor mount and Jack up the motor on that side. Once you've done that you can slide the bolt through one of the holes in the pulley.
Now you know why tuner need to use knock sensors.
I’m soooo thankful you guys are so knowledgeable and share your knowledge. That oil cooler is a huge mistake people make when they blow their engines.
The evo...my best project yet from you guys..glad to see it coming back😊
I feel your pain on the front end accessory drive. I am currently putting the initial miles on my 1990 Hyundai Sonata with a 4G64/4G63 hybrid and it is a massive pain to access belts and pulleys. Not a lot of tricks from my side; just the sweating and choice words.
Nice buddy that's a classic sleeper. Brings me back to guys swapping thier hyundais
I always get the EVO 6 videos you've guys made once in a while in my suggestions feed and has been a constant reminder of this build. Glad to see this is a new video on the build!
4g63 for the win!!! I own 3 4g63 builds and I enjoy it! 1 evo and two 6 bolt dsm builds. So glad to see the evo back!!
Nooo wayyy you guys shipped out your brakes all the way over here to southern california that’s so dope man! Bulletproof does awesome work!
Will Sasha be tuning this new motor? He shouldn't be allowed near another 4G63 again if his excuse was you didn't tell him it was a hi-comp motor... You check for knock on every run! Even the stock ecu will give you a live knock CEL flash and can will retard timing to protect the engine.
All in the past now though, you guys have done a great job! TWICE!!! I hope you get to enjoy the car now. Congratulations.
Everyone falls eventually. It's how you get yourself back onto your feet that counts. Happy to see the Evo back.
Omgggg I remember when we were all just focused about what sort of headlights you wanted to go with.. then the dyno session...
Excited to see this car back.
This was the build that got me into the channel, was sad when it gave up the ghost but glad to see its back!!
Nice to see the build coming along. If you bought a crank why didn’t you go with a 94mm? A set of custom pistons would fit 150mm rods and just drive better.
Im glad you guys replaced your oil cooler. I knew someone who decided to do 3 rounds of sonic cleaning on his and his new motor ended up grenading itself. He ended up doing the process another time on another engine same outcome. What an expensive lesson to learn.
Oh man I am so glad this is back. I am waiting for my Evo6 to be US legal for import... Your original Evo series was a definite inspiration.
As an Evo guy this is a great video and the advice given is very sound, I know from experience, keep up the great work can’t wait to see the end results🤙
you could bring this project back a hundred times I'd still watch... the Evo 4/5/6 are SOOO Good!
Since the oil cooler did seem like it was contaminated another thing you could have done other than cleaning it out is to put a filter element between the cooler and return line. This could be done if a cooler replacement couldn't be had or needed a quick fix. You could also put one before the cooler to help prevent contamination in the future.
Still risking it. The only way to go is replace it. Debris can be lodged and come free down the road
There are holes on the ps pump pulley to use the socket and rachet but needs to be done with the belt off so u can spin the pulley and make it easy..
I wish I knew about that ranger vehicle dolly awhile ago! I need one because I’m always taking suspension apart in the front of my cars.
Adrian is a damn surgeon! Love these builds and all the details!!!
So excited to see the Evo reborn once again!
Such an iconic jdm car and the AWD will be an interesting on track compared to the other builds.
The dude nodding in the back when PT said buy a Honda represents us all haha
Legend coming back from the dead!! Cant wait for round 2 on the dyno!!
Wow. I practically stopped watching this channel after this car disappeared. Thanks for bringing it back.
"Off by... some sort of hair" 😂 nice save Pete!
The trick on the power steering pump is to understand that mitsubishi made it that way to weed out the weak and ensure only dedicated enthusiasts would own these cars and enjoy them.
10:1 CR is quite high for a classic 4G63. The stock is like 8.8:1 or something on an Evo 6.
On Evo 9 it has MIVEC to compensate the high CR and timing.
The day that we've all been waiting for! Future JDM Rally Legends challenger appears!
Great to see the Evo 6 back, understand why you guys took a break tho.
ID are recommended because they’re hands down the best aftermarket injector on the market. 👍
They just use old tech bosch injectors. The latest bosch are much better.
@@intrepidrouge there is way more to it than just that.
Hell yeah this build gives me inspiration to finish my Galant VR4
New oil filters have a guarantee on the box. Reminds me of a great man that once said, “Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it 'guaranteed', I will. I got spare time.” 😂
Those wheels looks so perfect on the EVO.
LOL, dropping the bolts for the fuel rail... Just as if I was doing the job. Classic
i wish you could make a movie long video on the process for the evo, i could sit here for hours and watch you guys work 😩😩
Sigh…all the late night trauma working on my 91 GSX 4G63 comes flooding back. Every time I built that engine, I would say “maybe this time” 😂 albeit my builds were nowhere near this level. I was just a kid, on a limited budget - GM MAF translator in hand, and all night pulls on the street twisting those three dials, looking at blinking lights on that circuit board in a vane attempt to achieve a passable Air/Fuel Ratio.
Ugh. I love those 6.0 - 6.5 evo thats just about the time I discovered WRC racing when I was younger.
An engine, not a motor 😋 (motors are electric, although I do call engine mounts motor mounts still). Amazing build, the Evo 6 got me into Japanese imports back in 99!
Glad to see the ole girl back! Let me know when you want a battle of the proteges 😤
Can we get a full Jackie Chan spec EVO, Police Cops Edition?
There was a great Evo III or IV chase seen with some bad guy e34 BMWs in Who Am I? also
Yay, I started on your channel with you guys taking this apart!
Can't wait for more CP9A goodness!
I think you need to do a budget AWD Honda build at some point 👍
How ironic, they start the episode with a headgasket failure and ending it bashing on Subaru. :p
Yeeessssss. Been waiting a long time for this!!! Will you get it to the track to spank that STI? 😏
Yesss evo content, you guys think you would do a chaser build ?
Nice clean oem+ builds like usual.
Cool stuff! Really enjoy the builds you have been doing lately. :)
This is gonna be sweet. What happened to the silver Miata?
So excited to see the Evo back on the channel!
I never install the oil cooler on start up and breakin. We do so after inspecting the oil and cutting open the filter
As much as your right to say the oil cooler maybe dirty and not worth the risk replacement is not always necessary. Serck motorsports clean all forms of coolers for elite motorsport teams and now with a base in the states I'd say its worth getting a quote from them before buying a new unit and fabricating it onto the car. I know your Canada but mail order could work I'd hope?
These are under 200 to replace. I cant imagine the shipping/cleaning is worthwhile in this case
You didn't lube the new oil filter prior to installation, oh noooooo! MONICA!
Did you remove the baffles out of the rocker cover and clean them ?
What spec turbo was used with the new artec exhaust manifold?
G25-550
Is this Evo an understeering mess? If not, how? The whole engine and transmission (and possibly the transfer case) are ahead of the front wheels!
Yeees finally!!! hope for better luck this time guys!
Well Honda was busy building one the greatest N/A engines at the time F20C, but yeah, EVO is EVO 😈
I'm gonna have to disagree PT. After watching you fiddle around with a transfer case and power steering pump I'm gonna stay with Subaru. They have their faults but atleast you can work on it. Also i seem to remember a certain abandoned STi still running and moving under its own power at the end of its build series. 😄
Thanks for bringing back the subie killer 😭😭
Woahhhh i thought you give up on this😮...i miss this so much
YES ! been waiting for this day for ages lol , cant wait to see the rest
YESSSSSS I KNEW OT FROM THE OUTLINE!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Coming back 💪 stronger!
Not using a set of knock ears or similar is what caused this, regardless of comp ratio, experience with the engine, experience in tuning, tuner should have some form of independent knock detection device connected to his ears and should be actively listening for knock, knocking enough for it to be audible on the video and for it to annihilate the motor, would have clearly heard that through a set of knock ears, well before anything let go, and even before anything was close to being damaged. A garden hose hooked up to a set of ear muffs would suffice, I run a ‘seniors’ handheld microphone that’s had the mic extended onto a big metal clip that can be clipped onto the block, and a set of earphone used, can hear every little noise, even the dbw actuator, it’s that sensitive.
Regardless, damage is done, hoping everything goes to plan this time around.
You really should watch the video when this happened because tuner is wearing knock ears…
@@speedacademy yea prob should go back and watch it to be honest. Must be more to it than meets the eye if he couldn’t hear it through the ears then, 4g aren’t that noisy that you wouldn’t hear it over the ambient engine noise.
sometimes i forget how long its actually been since the chicken coup videos back in the day
Finally!! One of my favorite car an my favorite project of yours is back
The balance shafts has nothing to do with balancing the internals
Has to do with vibration/harmonics from a 4 cylinder firing order
DSM's have got to be one of the most unforgiving engines when it comes to tuning. They will damned sure make BIG power, but you get frisky with the timing, or it runs just the slightest bit lean, and you will pay for it (literally).
Your evo looks identical to my brother's old one. He sold it for an IS-F as it made a better daily.
Amazing content, such a great channel!!!!
Still find it hard to believe a tuner was tuning the motor without listening for knock
Love this car. Favorite model of EVO. Wish it was ledt hand drive though.
As someone who spent way more time then should have been required to replace an alternator in their EVO X, I understand the struggle.
Working on Evo's require A LOT of cussing and expect it to take 3x longer than you anticipated. I went back to Hondas 😂
The head studs Are using will not hold the power u will put to it. 625+ is a must on 4g63. My experience
Oh nice! It's back!!! Change the wheels please. Love the Evo content.
No way those enkeis are awesome
@@markmartin7384They are 100% awesome, wheel color just doesn't go well with the body.
I think they look pretty good
Yeaaasssss the evo 6 returns!!! Hell yea !!!
The EVO is back🎉🎉🎉
FINALY! Been patiently waiting for this for 2 years😎
Soo happy to see this build again. I know how much you love this car, and rightfully so. Evos are killer cars. Can't wait to see the final product, it's gonna rip. Sorry STI guys, Pete's right, it's just a superior car.. Ps please tune the sh&t out of it.
One of my favorites on the channel
Hopefully this build leads into the weapon wagon build ! 👌🏻 love the Evo life !
Nice vid, good job guys
I like the new video format with the voice over
Try doing that timing belt and balance shaft when it's in a eagle talon And on your garage floor haha 😂
Been there done that, its brutal haha
2:32 can we get a update on that e34 bmw ???