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The .35 Whelan and I .. Why chose it over others?
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2023
- i discuss why the .35 whelan would be a wise choice over smaller cals, but i dont write off the smaller cals.... worth a listen
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I load 225 grain accubonds at 2750 out of my custom built Whelen. It follows the same trajectory as a 3006 shooting a 180 out to 400 yards ! The 35 Whelen is an amazingly efficient cartridge . Maybe one of the most efficient
The 35 Whelen has been called North America's dangerous game cartridge.
It certainly is Dangerous to North America's Game ☺️🦌👍
I'm on my second 35 Whelen. The first one was a CVA and was flawed from the factory so it went back. I do love the cartridge so now I own a Lipsey's Ruger #1 in .35 Whelen. It was expensive but absolutely a wonderful rifle. It's kind of heavy but it needs to be to keep the recoil down. I shot a 225 grain Sierra Gameking bullet at a measured muzzle velocity of 2816 fps. I don't need or own a magnum caliber rifle any longer. The 35 is the most efficient cartridge I've ever loaded for.
nice to hear about your whelen! you have got a thumper load there!
i load fairly low in the minimum regions most often, for what i do there isnt a need for ALL of that thump , sure it can help but not often nneeded- im also a lighter fella an even though its heavy ruger...its mild mannered.
great rounds, thanks for your info
Happy birthday Hill Dog, that was very informative thanks again 🤙
Thanks, glad you found it informative! happy days here! cheers
I’m a fan of the 35 Whelen. I have the Ruger 77 series 1 . Awesome.👍
Thats awesome, nice choice mate!
Happy birthday brother
I've used the 35 whelen since 1989.
I Now own 3...
2x remington 7600's, one scoped with bushnell elite 4500 1x4x25, one w williams firesight and peep sight.
My 3rd is Ruger M77 with bushnell elite 4500 2.5-10 scope.
Absolute hammers on everything... whitetails, elk, moose.
They greatly tend to fall straight down...3 to 5 feet depending on species, dead before gravity makes them hit the ground.
I've used virtually all factory ammo available in my general area.
225 gr nosler accubond, imho, is the best of the best. Elk and moose just crumple. Straight down, lights out right now dead.
200 gr corelokt is tough to beat for deer, along with the 200 gr fusion or interlock. Instant results.
The only round I didn't like was the 225 gr TBBC federal rou d. Too stiff... 2 elk and a moose ran ...50 yds or so... clean passthroughs with virtually zero expansion. Never again.
Accubonds.. and 250 gr corelokts... same double long or quartering slightly away shots... instant death. No tracking required.
I also bought a box of federal 200 gr tssx, and norma 250 oryx. Barnes 130 gr tssx is my preferred 270 bullet, so I can't wait to try the 200 grainer in the whelen.
Norma oryx highly regarded and can only assume it will be outstanding as well.
Glad to see there's another 270 and 35 whelen guy out there.
The best one-two do-it-all combo in hunting, imho!
Hope that you had a really great day - love your work.
Thanks John, i ended up having a great Day.. it was a great week with a few celebrations with my closest ones.
the deer may of eluded me for right now, but it is ongoing :)
One of the most overlooked rounds.
I love my .35 Remington for whitetail within 150 yards, but I've been thinking about what I would want for bigger game at potentially longer distances. This could be it!
Happy birthday mate 👍. From hunting buddy in usa 🇺🇸. Got love the 35cal. 35 whaling is like the American 375h&h. Hit hard when need it to. Dad love the 338 win mag till know move like savage 308 in a marlin 4570. My self love 3006 remington pump 760 in the 35remington marlin got from my wifes uncle collection when he passes. I use hunt alot with 7mm mag here then move 243 win for awhile all great guns. Just load 200gr 338 win mag for brother cup and core speers for cheap loading for deer.
Happy Birthday HD and good luck with the hunt .
Thanks Rod. appreciate your comments
Happy birthday young man! Bullet diameter and weight are under rated by most hunters now. Partitions are the ultimate hunting bullets imo. Stays together close and opens up at range and penetrates. I’m keeping my eye out for a used left handed Ruger to rebarrel to 9.3x62, but a 35 Whelen would be awesome as well.
Youre right! a Lefty 9.3 Ruger would be awesome ! the Whelen is a 9.1x63 :) same same really!! yeah everyone ive spoke to particularly from Canada have nothing but praise for the Partitions!! even for use of small cals on big game! like the .243 etc
I have owned a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser for 18 years then used on the Alaskan guided brown bear and Yukon moose hunts I used to conduct.
When the 9.3x62 is using stiff reloads it can be the same as commercial loads of the 375 H&H magnum.
I suggest do not use any kind of lead core bullets in the 9.3 because it has way too much energy that blows up lead core bullets.
I use exclusively Barns TSX 286 grain bullets with 70 grains of H-414 powder.
Only once I goofed up then shot a Hugh Yukon moose with a 250 grain Nosler AccuBond the bullet blew up to peace's!
The Moose took a second shot of a Barns TSX 286 grain bullet that killed it !
Well the 9.3x62 and the 35 Whelen are almost Identical. Cases for the 30-06/35 Whelen easy to find, If your 9.3 chamber a bit long at the shoulder you can fire a 35 whelen. The 30-06 case a bit narrower at the head and might expand a bit to much. Its more about what ammo you find in your country. For the USA would choose the 35 Whelen. A well priced used 9.3 will grab inmediatelly
Knowledge is power listen and learn excellent 👍 video.. I have own a couple .35 Whelen Remington 700 and ruger Hawkeye like the yours in this video.. I just got the Ruger Hawkeye African lipsey's exclusive .35 Whelen
very nice selection you have ther!
Dude rugers are nice. I have a few. Recently i shot a stag with a 308 ruger compact with laminate stock and stainless action/barrel.
I also have a 35 whelan in a rem700 cdl. Now i just need a deer caliber in a bdl.
Happy birhday hilldog. Wooof woof woof woof oddball
niiice selection you have! big cheer bro, ow owww
Do I don't know exactly your location but I can fill you in on my experience and dare I say love of the. 35 Whelen.
As a basis I own a Model 700 classic, a custom built single shot with a 22" barrel( because the manufacturer in question was never going to make one) another single shot with a26" barrel( after the company made one after saying they never would), and finally a Ruger Model 77 rechambered to 35 Whelen Ackley improved. The Ruger is the the only one I use 250gr bullets in.
I for me I have live most of my adult life in the Rockies of Wyoming( grizzly country). My favorite pet load is a 225gr Barnes X bullet at an average velocity of 2805fps.
Though I never need to address a charging bear with it. The cartridge for me has taken game as small as pronghorn, and as large as Elk, and moose. In 40 years I've only recovered one Barnes X, and it was in a moose after traveling shoulder to shattering the off side hip bone
Mountain man
This is awesome to hear, i love talking guns and especially from a experienced 35 owner like yourself!
quite a collection of Whelens you have there!!
ps- im from Australia, down south east corner!
Thanks for telling me your storie, i wish you many more years of good times with a neat cartridge!
@@HillDogTV I have a very small channel that I deal with mostly black powder muzzleloading to custom handloading up to talking plan ol commonsense.
Mountain man
will check it out!
Happy Birthday Dog. Hope you had a great hunt buddy.
thanks legend
Happy birthday mate
Love the 35. I bagged a young stag from the western mob earlier this year with my 7600 - on my birthday 👍🏻
Thats awesome! 7600 would be a dandy bush rifle!~ hope you wack his Daddy soon!
Got my wife's uncles 3006 760 when passed hard beat these rifles . Point like a shotgun
I've had my Whelen 7600 pump since 1993. They certainly are a fantastic round. I've never found it to be the best grouping rifle I've ever had. I have used the 225 Woodleigh pp and they work great on sambar. The 35 has taken the back seat for the last two years as I now use a Tikka 7 mm mag. It's worked flawlessly on the seven deer it's taken with 175 grain Woodleighs. One hind I shot front centre of chest, the projectile was found right besides it's bum hole. But still can't bring myself to part with the 35, and why would you.
Youre spot on with the 225gr PPSN claim. this is what i used intitially an found it to be a good penetrator but expander an often caught them on the far side of hide!
no sane reason to part with a Whelen, ive had this one for sale few times now but i put a mint on it lol, no longer factory chamebred.... but sentimental as all heckka!
enjoy the 7 mag
@@HillDogTV I was told by Geoff at H&S that the 35 can bring some good money . Like you said they don't chamber for the 35 now. Don't know why as it's a formidable round on sambar.
I bought mine in 92. I agree its not the most accurate rifle, but it is accurate enough to get the job done in the field. Considering that I have never shot at a Whitetail more than 55 yards, it is MORE than accurate enough.
I sent mine to the gunsmith several years back and had the barrel chopped and crowned from 22" to 18.5" What a difference when handling it in the thick stuff. She also wears a 1.5-4x32 scope. Again, for hunting in the thicker areas I hunt where a 100 yard shot is long.
Happy birthday brother! Good hunting!
big cheer an warm barrels!
Happy birthday and lovely beanie too!
ahh thanks man! the lovely Lady gifted it to me for said Birthday! she knows my style already!! we're glad you like it also!!
Happy birthday Hilldog.Gotta love a bigger bit of lead flying through the air.
gday Rob- ya know what they say- the Bacon dont fry is the Led dont fly? :)
Ha ha ha! I would like to see more young hunters hunting Sambar with some larger “Rock Chuckers”.Eg-35,338,375,9.3x74 and 458’s to make Ken P smile!😁and me😎.
@highcountryrob5534 my dad love the 338 win mag in the usa for deer. He know runs the 308 in 4570
Happy Birthday Bro.🎉
Cheers bro!!
Happy Birthday for the other day!
happy birthday big fella 🤙🤙
Thanks Fella! warm barrels
I have a TC Encore Pro Hunter 35 whelen and I had my Savage 110 long action chambered in 35 whelen with a faster twist and a 20" barrel. With hand loads at 200 yds I can drive tacks. Love the 35 whelen.
they both sound awesome! 20 incher sounds interesting
Happy birthday mate
cheer bro!
Happy birthday and hope you get your birthday wish 🎈👍
Thank you Steve!
Happy birthday HD. You look like you could be anywhere from 25 to 55 years old.😂 I hope a 35 incher is in your near future!!
ha haa classic
Happy bday bud. Well I’ve just joined the club bought one today. Stoked!!!! Any preferences for factory ammo until I get time to load some, onya
How Good! welcome to the Club. ive found the Corelokt 250 factorys to be deadly for them really.... good brass too etc
Thanks champ, think the gun shop in alb has the 250gn, give ‘em a whirl 👍
quite intresting hd and happy birthday
glad you find it interesting my man. enjoy an thanks
Happy birthday Hilldog I'm planning on a hunt in September for my 57th taking my CZ 30,06 hope my knees hold up my daughter is coming along with her Kimber 7mm08 got to give it a go, anyway you don't feel the recoil when you squeeze on a deer have a good one mate
this is awesome to hear man, what a way to spend a birthday- a beaut rifle an ya daughter also with a kimber! i like yer styles!
thanks man . enjoy your hunt in september an warm barrels from both of ya
Enjoy the hunt hard beat a 3006 or 7mm 08. Yea do agree recoil less when shooting at game vs paper
What a way to spend your bday, onya Cob!
it wasnt bad mate at all.... but i have some unfinished business!! stay tuned for another 2 part video by end of month! PM me if ya chasen a cap on my facebook !?
Good on ya boss. Like the 35 whelan. I was going to ask what about the 9.3x62, but now I think 44mag, lever. Proper old school.
yeah the 44 mag is an interesting one, it sorta wasnt legal for Deer for a while but i think now days it should be legal, in Vic anyway... NSW is different i believe. not bad for up close stuff, with a Cast bullet it would be awesome-- soft points not so great but the closer the better!
the 444marlin had weird issues with wide open nosed bullets back in the day, they would often expand an lack penetration--or so i would hear.. alot more velocity than the 44 mag of course.
@@HillDogTV You shouldn't be believing in the Bull crap that lead bullets are somehow superior to modern copper expanding bullets, these lead bullets are total crap and anyone who wants to bring up lead bullets on these video's is always a teenager or someone who has very little experience with firearms and parrot mouths the ignorant RUclips fads!
And saying the 444 marlin bullets don't expand really makes you look like uneducated firearms fool.
As an Alaskan hunting guide doing brown bear and Yukon Moose hunts you explain to me if bullets don't expand then why Hunters and professional guided often shoot solid rifle bullets made of Brass or Bronze and zinc which these bullets kill game fast!
I even own some Barns solids 7 mm 160 grain I have killed 4 moose with from a 7mm Rem mag.
A large 44 cal bullet from the 444 Marlin has allot of energy even if the bullet fails to fully expand it is going to kill !
Happy birthday boy you only a chicken man not a rooster yet ha ha great stuff mate
ha ha PK.... this may be true but my grey hairs tell another story LOL
you doing good man i 67 slowing down a bit now
@@HillDogTV
How it was a ripper day🎉
Thanks Hunters ministry. appreciate it mate. c u in the hills soon
I'm left handed. I bought a left hand Ruger M77 Hawkeye in .243 from a mate, I've had it re-barrelled to .358. It's great. Why don't you put the 35 Whelen barrel on the left hand 30/06 action & the 30/06 barrel on the right hand Ruger. Wouldn't cost much & you'd have the left hand 35 Whelen, left hand 7mm/08 & could get rid of a right hand 30/06 if you wanted.
Ruger barrel on a Browning, different threads im fairly sure, then we are looking into someone re threading a barrel.. an ruining a no longer chambered factory .35 whelen... my 7mm-08 is RH kimber montana but i have a .308 barrel for it also. i love the .30-06 left hand as it is such an all round calibre! money is the issue really, i would get rid of a few but i cant seem to part with these remaining ones!?!?!
@@HillDogTV I thought you had a Ruger L/H 30/06, sorry.
Thats no drama. nahh , the rugers just weigh too much these days ha ha!! lovely rifles though an bullet proof persay!
Great video dad. No bull shit🤙🤙
lol Cheer bro!
I'd very much love an old timber stocked 35 whelen In my collection to hunt sambar.
Can't say I'm a fan of the 308 for sambar.
If I had to list my favourites
I'd say
300win
300wsm
3006
270
You got nice Taste!
I will not regret the 35 Whelen if you can get one. I use mine for Rocky Mountain Elk, and it makes them DRT. Should be perfect for Sambar.
Id have the confidence with a 30-06 and a 200 grain partition or swift a frame or a 180 grain barmes ttsx
Yep thats a good Combo for say ya under 200 stuff! can tend to lose trajectory after that but since we are worrying about penetration here, youre choice in 200gr would be great! even a Soft point in 200gr works well.
the .35 has a larger piston for the powder to push so does better with heavies, thats where premiums come into play in just 150 an 180gr for the .30 cals, moreso the 308 as you lose case capacity with heavier than 180! :) goodluck an enjoy
@HillDogTV for distance shots in 06 i love the high bc of the heavyweights ..always carry a few 200-210 grain accubonds in shirt pocket as a just in case scenario . when deer goat and moose hunting they are a really good bonded bullet and have a 0.588 bc
And a muzzle velocity of 2700 fps They retain lots of energy downrange .wouldn't hesitate to take a 500 yd shot tlwith one of those
We shoot the heavies in 06 here in ak while deer elk amd moose hunting cause of the big coastal brown bears lurking about .
The heavy accubomds have a high bc with plenty of smack. the 210 grain accubond long range bullet has 1748 ft lbs of energy at 600 yds with a mv of 2600 + fps ...moderm
Only a 1:10 twist rate requiresd. long range bullets and powders have breathed new life into the old warhorse.
@HillDogTV
That's all true however the 35 whelen doesn't have very high bc bullets for those longer shots the highest it has is a 250 grsin partition at
.446 bc
The 210 grain accubonds long ramge coeficient is much higher at .661 therefore retains its speed and trajectory over extended distance much better .the whelen is a great cartige with enormous stopping power and energy I love it .
But holds no real significant advantage over rhe 30-06 using a well constructed high bc bullet . Primarily when a longer shots are presented. Say from 350 yds and beyond
True story there! you're onto it :)
appy birfday bro.....
indeed it was, Thanks mate
I am planning for a single shot 35 Whelen if I get back to a gun country .
Thats pretty cool! i see a few CVA single shots getin used in .35! im about to reload some new rounds for my Whelen! thinking the Speer 250 Gr will be a good start
With a 180 Barnes you can get 2900-3000 fps. What’s not to like about that
100%
Shooting steel 30 calibre will punch through like a paper hole puncher.
35 wheelan if you slam your steel into clay then shoot it itll push it over instead of going through it. Thats my experience
yeah a bit more speed helps the smaller diameter cut thru the steel---- assuming same projectile brands an model ? the whelen has alot more to push thru at a slower pacew :)
It’s Whelen. Not whelan
Should be Whale-em
I would have guessed you were 55
Half of 70
is that so! that sounds like im old already